Have you ever found yourself imagining where the stories of games could have gone if the camera kept rolling, or if the cards were different from the start? I know a few people on 4chan at least have started their own undertale/deltarune fangames over ideas like that, and Im pretty sure deltarune yellow just had a massive update very recently.But what about you? Has a game ever made you want to to draw write or compose something? Share your autism with me. What other paths could things have taken, and what paths could they still possibly take?
>>737257979Undertale Yellow's canon ending was so poorly executed that it spawned an entire game just so some of the characters could have a happy life instead of suffering eternally
>>737258378They need to be happy. or else
The absurdity of the endings, coupled with the almost contradictory sincerity, drove me to want to write different ways for things to play out. I never understood fanfic writers until I became one myself.
>>737258412As if Martlet and Ceroba weren't the main culprits of how the pacifist ending plays out
>>737258832I will save these two dummies from themselves
>>737257979>Have you ever found yourself imagining where the stories of games could have gone if the camera kept rolling, or if the cards were different from the start?Well there's this game that has a lot of neat ideas that ultimately have gone to waste, both the story and the ending left me very unsatisfied, so much that I considered making my own version, although I may be better off borrowing ideas that I liked an original project instead.Unfortunately, because of the game's nature, most people, including the author, like it for very different reasons.That game is called Changed. I'm even embarrassed bringing it up here
>>737258412Which one would be the Freddie Mercury of the group?
>>737259245Dalv, coming in with the completely unexpected singing voice with godly ranges.
>>737259137Oh that's the game with the amazingly complex survival mechanics. I thought you played as a bioengineered furry, but looking up the lore, it's far worse. Unfortunate, and I can see why you want to rewrite it.
>>737257979All the time. Most of the games I play have me wanting to write fanfiction.
>>737259137Thats funny, because Ive heard of people playing the game, liking it and completely not realizing its a fetish game. I dont know how that can happen to that extent, but maybe an astounding level of purity
In the case of lesbian KanaClover, would Chujin be more homophobic or would he just hate Clover for being human.
>>737259752home of phobia doesn't exist in UT/DR, in fact, it seems the natural state for women there is to be lesbians, if anything Chujin would be surprised by straight KanaClover
I'm still thinking about Wiki working as a park ranger alongside Martlet. I bet all the other rangers spread rumors about what she used to do, ranging from being a special forces sniper in the gulf war, to being some kind of high class super bounty hunter that hunted people across the globe. Of course they're all to afraid to discuss it when she's around, and she's too shy to volunteer the information without being asked.
>>737258378not only poorly executed, the mainline undertale events retcons the entire events
>>737259958Okay, now I'm thinking of the both of them working together to stop the theft of nuclear bombs in "Broken Arrow."
>>737259958>their imaginations going to wilder and wilder places that she sometimes overhears, and even if if her backstory was actually something pretty intense, it can no longer match up to the pure insanity of their theories.
>>737259958Wiki was the direct inspiration for the DR world's version of the "navy seal" copypasta.
>wiki somehow living long enough to see the barrier break, or coming back to life, I don't know the point is, seeing the surface forests again for the first time in millennia >Martlet getting to see the surface for the first time in her life and spreading her wings in the skyI think they'd get along
>>737259137Anon, this thread is full of unironic monster fuckers (not just normal furries, but cyclops, fire elementals, and slimes), and a sizable portion of them are gay. I guarantee you nobody will judge you for it.I'd like to hear what you have to say about it if only because the idea of someone taking the lore of a porn game seriously is intriguing to me.
>>737259137Honestly, as someone who played that game without knowing it was a porn game at first, I kinda get it.I can't say I'm terribly interested in the game's lore though, after going through it I kinda just wanna see a version of the game that plays like FEAR or Dead Space.
>>737259664I've seen people swear vehemently that art isn't fetish art when I have the fetish and can tell the artist is pandering to me specifically. Some people just can't see that sort of stuff even if you point it out.
>>737259829So I guess he would be more racist.
>>737259752Chujin is a racist first and foremost. He would ask her why she couldn't have ended his bloodline with a nice kitsune girl instead of this filthy ningenfaggot.
>>737260830reminds me of people posting that ceroba petrification image and a lot of people didn't have the 6th sense to have those warning signals go off I guess.
>>737260215Ironically, she hates boats and gets sea sick very easily.
>>737260276I imagine future Wiki being like one of those Japanese soldiers that held out on an island for 20 years after the war ended. Only instead she hid in some remote forest for millennia. She'd probably have some serious PTSD if that were the case.Though your scenario does make for a nice moment. I think she might cry upon seeing the sun again. And she'd spend the following year outside 100% of the time, just because of how much she hated being confined. Plus she'd probably go and visit all the places she left behind on the surface, though those might just be sad visits, making her remember what used to be there, and how its all gone.
>>737260104People start making Paul Harrell jokes about her.
>>737260735>FEARso what, you swap out the femboy for the Pointman and run around basting the latexfurs with an overpowered Spas 12?
>>737261170NTA, but I bet Wiki'd be real upset about the industrialization humans have been doing on the surface potentially destroying a lot of the places she used to like.
>>737261294Yeah, that works for me.I could pretty easily see the Pointman running around that facility killing everything in his path, doesn't even need a story to it, he could just be there.
>>737261170ah fuck, imagine her going to a forest she remembers from when she was younger, and it being gone. FUCKFUCK.Maybe it will help ever so slightly, if I bring her to places that meant a lot to me when I was a kid. Places that aren't as grand, but still stand. Maybe she can cope a little hearing about feelings that resembled the ones she held once. Talking to her about seeing the river my dad grew up near for the first time, or the waterfall near his parents property, though we'd have to sneak on and damn I just made myself sad.Maybe she'd find it so strange how so many wonderful locations are off limits and humans just lock themselves away in these cities.
>>737259958>to being some kind of high class super bounty hunter that hunted people across the globeDelta Luzma lore, except she probably works for some private security company in the middle of a ghetto or something
>>737261485DR Luzma, the unethical Blackwater gf.
>>737261582Don't forget the tax evasion, but maybe Delta Luzma can't get away so easily with that.
>>737261768I'd say tax evasion is probably more ethical than working for an actual private security company.Also, I'd bet DR Luzma wouldn't be as cool as UT Luzma because monsters in the DR world don't seem to be able to use magic in the light world, so she probably couldn't do most of whatever UT Luzma could do.I wanna see UT Luzma doing the whole "I'm you but stronger" bit to her DR counterpart now.
>>737261332She'd be upset about them completely destroying every trace of the monster kingdom and building over it hundreds of times over more likely. Though I imagine the argicultural and later industrial revolutions would upset her greatly. I could see her crying over the forest she spent her childhood in having been cut for lumber 300 years ago.>>737261467Imagine her remembering the tree where she used to sit while her father told her about the different shapes of animal tracks, and how to tell how fresh they are. Seeing how its gone without a trace, along with all the others, and knowing that even if they hadn't been clear cut for a road, they still would have died of age multiple times over by now. The whole forest, or what's left of it, much of it was clear cut by primitive man during the iron age, looking completely unrecognizable. The only familiar face being the distant side of the mountain she spent the majority of human history trapped under.Still, the air though it smells different, is still fresh and clear. The sun still shines. The sky is still blue. And the birds still sing. Even if they aren't the same trees, there is a forest here, and there will likely be one here for a long time to come. These are her friends, even if they look different now. Its alright to cry around friends.>, if I bring her to places that meant a lot to me when I was a kid. Places that aren't as grand, but still stand.Maybe, but also remember how old you feel when people wax nostalgic about things younger than you, like the people who get nostalgic about Deltarune being their childhood. Imagine that but for forests and rivers. She's going to be older than most of the things you show her.>Maybe she'd find it so strange how so many wonderful locations are off limits and humans just lock themselves away in these cities.I imagine the concepts of private property, no trespassing, and paid admission would greatly upset her.
>>737262046>I'd say tax evasion is probably more ethical than working for an actual private security company.I know, but dating someone who commits that kind of crime can put a timer to your relationship.>monsters in the DR world don't seem to be able to use magic in the light world, so she probably couldn't do most of whatever UT Luzma could do.They still have super strength as shown by Undyne, so she might not be able to shoot fireballs or do whatever else she does, but she could still lift a car over her head.>I wanna see UT Luzma doing the whole "I'm you but stronger" bit to her DR counterpart now.You could to that with most monsters from UT to DR.You think she listens to "animal I have become" while committing war crimes? DR Luzma probably isn't that psychopathic but it's kind of a funny image.
>>737261434Did you just want wanton violence against furries?
>>737261485Its a prequel, so maybe she was a merc from back when that was still a glamorous career. Back in the cold war days.
>>737262046She's still made of fire.
>>737262381Not necessarily, but also the things in Changed used to be human, so it's more like putting down zombies or something.
Is Wildfire still alive?
>>737259660I'm pretty sure you're thinking of a different game, since you play as a human in Changed>>737259664>>737259665I already knew it was a fetish game, but I got really curious about it nonetheless, since I liked the character designs>>737260579>I'd like to hear what you have to say about it if only because the idea of someone taking the lore of a porn game seriously is intriguing to me.It's not really porn game, but I guess softcore at most It's basically a full fledged game of Undertale's True Lab, which is one of my favorite parts of Undertale, and the goal is escaping from a research lab while dealing the monstrosities that's roaming around. I really do like the monster designs, and you can befriend an intelligent beast who can aide you through your journey.But I hate how it's a fetish game, so a lot of these cool designs have gone to waste, which is a shame because it's the closest thing of a game that has got similar designs as the amalgamates. Also the story is so hopeless. Humanity got wiped out by a disease, and you're going die along with them unless you choose to transform. It's similar to UTY, where Clover is destined to die, but the big difference is that Clover's sacrifice does actually pay off at the end as we've seen in Undertale Like, there comes a point where the story is so hopeless, that it's just not worth getting invested in it anymore.To be perfectly honest, I got a love-hate relationship with Changed. It got so many things that I like, but those things aren't utilized well in favor of something that I hateMaybe it's my fault for getting invested into a game that is about something I don't like>>737260735>I kinda just wanna see a version of the game that plays like FEAR or Dead Space.Same, I love the idea of a one man army going dealing a horde of monsters all on his own, like RE2 4th survivor
>>737262486Yes, but that doesn't mean she can do much with it.We see monsters in DR that are still composed of weird things like that, but magic still seems to not exist in the same way as the UT world.DR Luzma would probably have to use normal weaponry to do her job as a merc, while the chad UT Luzma just manifests projectiles whenever she wants.
>>737262425>Deltarune Naranja takes place during the 90s in a ghettoDRN is just GTA San Andreas
>>737262496Aren't they all venom symbiote infected in erotic ways by furry latex goo?
>>737262615>DR Luzma would probably have to use normal weaponry to do her job as a merc, while the chad UT Luzma just manifests projectiles whenever she wants.UT Luzma can fight like Dante using finger guns as actual guns and styling on her enemies, meanwhile DR Luzma fights like your average cover shooter protagonist, maybe with added super strength like in Crysis.I imagine Delta Luzma can still shoot fire, the say way you technically can shoot your own blood.
>>737262360>I know, but dating someone who commits that kind of crime can put a timer to your relationship.Yes, but for different reasons than someone who works for a PMC.>They still have super strength as shown by Undyne, so she might not be able to shoot fireballs or do whatever else she does, but she could still lift a car over her head.Yes, but she'd still be more limited.This also requires that UT Luzma could lift a car over her head, which I don't necessarily doubt, but we haven't seen that yet, so who knows.>You could to that with most monsters from UT to DR.I wanna see some UT monster going "Pathetic! I wouldn't even keep you as a slave in my empire!" to the DR equivalents of the monsters they know.>You think she listens to "animal I have become" while committing war crimes? DR Luzma probably isn't that psychopathic but it's kind of a funny image.Maybe if she was really off the deep end. I wonder what wars there are in the DR universe to be committing war crimes in anyway.
>>737262654In that case, maybe she's a gangbanger. Like cartel affiliated. Would fit with the tax evasion. Or maybe formerly was and now works as a gym teacher. She's cool with Val though, either because he's her favorite student, or because some of his relatives are old gang buddies of hers.
>>737262735Nah, it's permanent in Changed, anyone infected can't be turned back into a human, and their minds are usually too far gone to even want to anyway.According to the game, the various latex goos were made in an effort to force the evolution of the human race in order to "save" our species from some virus that wiped out most life on the planet or something.I have some major doubts that being turned into a bunch of gay, brainwashed furries was actually necessary for the survival of our race though.
>>737262326>Still, the air though it smells different, is still fresh and clear. The sun still shines. The sky is still blue. And the birds still sing. Even if they aren't the same trees, there is a forest here, and there will likely be one here for a long time to come. These are her friends, even if they look different now. Its alright to cry around friends.ah, that's very nice even if it's still sad.>Maybe, but also remember how old you feel when people wax nostalgic about things younger than you, like the people who get nostalgic about Deltarune being their childhood.that's actually the kind of thing that I was working off of. A small part of me is distressed hearing people say "when I was a kid playing undertale"but another part of me feels happy seeing the same thing that gave me joy, affected an entirely different generation. I know it's not the same thing since THE forest she had was gone, but still, there's a connection there. Something sorrowful but also something sweet between two people separated by time.>I imagine the concepts of private property, no trespassing, and paid admission would greatly upset her.the outdoors board would relate to her greatly on that one.
>>737262546>It's basically a full fledged game of Undertale's True Lab, which is one of my favorite parts of Undertale, and the goal is escaping from a research lab while dealing the monstrosities that's roaming aroundSounds pretty cool. You have any gameplay or character ideas for this?Also kinda tangentially related, but have you read Rubyquest? Its got a similar premise to that.
>>737262834>I imagine Delta Luzma can still shoot fire, the say way you technically can shoot your own blood.I'm a guy, I shoot other things most of the time.Anyway, that still means DR Luzma is suffering from a major nerf compared to her UT version.
>>737262849>This also requires that UT Luzma could lift a car over her head, which I don't necessarily doubt, but we haven't seen that yet, so who knows.If she's among the strongest mercenaries then she has to be on the same level as Undyne or even above, Knight Knight already has higher total stats than Undyne.>I wanna see some UT monster going "Pathetic! I wouldn't even keep you as a slave in my empire!" to the DR equivalents of the monsters they know.UT Shu to Delta Shu, except the UT version is full of shit and is as strong as the DR one, bur Delta Shu is too scared to notice it>Maybe if she was really off the deep end.Deltafell Luzma, now we are getting too deep with the autism.>I wonder what wars there are in the DR universe to be committing war crimes in anyway.I don't think we know if other countries exist in the DR universe.
>>737263074NTA, but he's mildly overselling it.Changed doesn't really go for horror the same way the True Lab does, it's mostly pretty bright not very eerie.Also most of the monsters have weird TF sex with you when they get you, as is the nature of most porn games.
>>737262849>Pathetic! I wouldn't even keep you as a slave in my empire!Underfel Shu to Deltashu (they are equally pathetic)>Maybe if she was really off the deep end. Eh, soldiers are people too and they have to do a lot of fucked up shit for their work, so they kinda have to become callous to it. A lot of them really are just dude bros leveling houses then driving around listening to Drowning Pool.
>>737263018Well the venom symbiote is permanent after a while too. Once it gets inside you, you eventually just become one with it. Hell in the movie they were originally gonna have that guy become a skeleton, but cut it for rating purposes.>I have some major doubts that being turned into a bunch of gay, brainwashed furries was actually necessary for the survival of our race though.No, anon we have to go into the magical piss realm and help the piss wizard to complete the quest. That's just how it is.Seriously though, pretty par for the course with erotica.
>>737263301>Eh, soldiers are people too and they have to do a lot of fucked up shit for their work, so they kinda have to become callous to it. A lot of them really are just dude bros leveling houses then driving around listening to Drowning Pool.Okay, but for a mercenary?I kinda get it (massive emphasis on "kinda") for an actual conscript, but for a mercenary?That was a choice, committing war crimes as someone who deliberately chose to be a soldier for hire isn't quite as understandable, let's be honest.
>>737262914>In that case, maybe she's a gangbanger. Like cartel affiliatedLuzma the cartel sicaria, which as funny/tragic as it might sound, some cartel hitmen did use nicknames like "Broly" or "Saiyajin", so DR Luzma going for a nickname like "Blue Death" wouldn't be that out of place.This is getting pretty dark but now I do want to see a Deltarune fangame set in the criminal underworld, of course with some of the comedy from UT/DR still on it.
>>737257979Yes.No and no.
>>737263070>ah, that's very nice even if it's still sad.You could say that about Wiki in general. She has a lot to be sad over and isn't as emotionally stiff as a lot of her peers.>the outdoors board would relate to her greatly on that one.If she could get over how coarse site culture is, she would post there often.
>>737263468I just realized that the police and military force in Undertale (the royal guard) are a single entity, maybe the monsters that were mercenaries in UT could be in the army on Deltarune.
>>737263454>Well the venom symbiote is permanent after a while too. Once it gets inside you, you eventually just become one with it. Hell in the movie they were originally gonna have that guy become a skeleton, but cut it for rating purposes.Yeah, but in Changed, it's instantaneous.A single drop of that stuff gets on you, your biomass is instantly converted into more of it.They kinda talk about it in the game, but honestly it seems more like it's just instantly killing you more than anything else, it's physically breaking you down and practically erasing your mind, it's barely even Ship of Theseus levels at this point.There's even a special procedure in the game's "good" ending where you get turned into a furry that's specified *not* to have the same effects as the other goos, specifically in that it's a slow medical process that actually retains your mind.So, anyone who's infected with the other stuff is just completely gone, mentally and physically.>Seriously though, pretty par for the course with erotica.Okay yeah, but can you blame me for wanting to go in there as the Pointman and wipe them all out?
>>737263271I know what Changed is. I just also know that most fetish stories (at least the bizarre internet fetishes) would be genuinely horrific if they weren't so heavily sexualized, and sometimes are so fucked up conceptually that they end up being horrific anyways.
>>737263257>>737263301>30 seconds apartShu mind
>>737263651Maybe?Though I think DR Luzma being in the actual proper military would be a stark contrast for her character as she's been described before.I'm kinda thinking that UT Luzma and DR Luzma would see each other as being their "evil mirror-world counterparts".I can see it now, UT Luzma seeing that her DR version joined the actual military, can't use magic like she can, and might even actually pay taxes?She'd beat the hell out of her.
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>>737263704I think the pointman wouldn't be qualified. He uses bullets, which aren't going to be very effective on furry sex symbiotes, and he's too weak to the infection. You'd need a killteam of astartes terminators with heavy flamers to deal with that. Or maybe a robot or someone with acid blood.I had an OC back in the day who was basically just a scary monster guy with acid blood, and the entire reason the not!Umbrella guys kept him around despite being an abject failure was because his blood was so toxic it would kill any parasites attempting to infect him. I feel like he could deal with this problem. Bonus points, he's even got a very monsterfur design, so he would fit the aesthetic (albeit he's very sharp and skinny, as opposed to soft and cuddly like the changed creatures)
>>737263743>most fetish stories (at least the bizarre internet fetishes) would be genuinely horrific if they weren't so heavily sexualized, and sometimes are so fucked up conceptually that they end up being horrific anyways.Honestly, I think a lot of things are *more* horrific when sexualized.Like how that Ceroba hair-fucking image was made worse by the fact that she was also being hypnotized at the same time.
>>737262546>>737263704>tf fetish game where you get transformed and fuckok I conceptually get how people can be into this, even if this is absolutely not up my alley>it also nearly instantly erases you as a person in the process so the transformed thing having sex isn't even connected to you in any waywe're reaching levels of nope never thought possible before.
>>737263935>Though I think DR Luzma being in the actual proper military would be a stark contrast for her character as she's been described before.It would, I imagine the military has too many rules for someone like her, and the military is quite boring, it's not like a constant action movie.>I can see it now, UT Luzma seeing that her DR version joined the actual military, can't use magic like she can, and might even actually pay taxes?This world doesn't let you be an aura farmer thats at the top of the food chain and can easily chose to not pay for the institutions you don't respect, if she were to actually did some of these things she'd be seen as insane.
>>737264087>I think the pointman wouldn't be qualified. He uses bullets, which aren't going to be very effective on furry sex symbiotes, and he's too weak to the infection.One of the characters in-game can die to a hammer to the face in one of the endings, bullets will do just fine.Plus, there's also the Particle Lance, I'd love to see that thing get to work in that facility.Also, I'd bet his armor could keep it from infecting him, it seems to require direct skin contact to start converting your biomass.
>>737257979These were the only logical conclusions for Clover.Martlet the bird mum, Zenith Martlet the bigger bird mum, and Ceroba the mum who screwed her life up.Clover ends up being the child of one of them.https://files.catbox.moe/sp6nr9.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/jirp38.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/3y4vjh.png
No one respond to that post just now, it's a troll trying to derail conversation like in the other thread.
>>737263468Soldiers are just wagies with guns, even most volunteer soldiers end up becoming desensitized to it, there's an entire doctrine around training them to be that way and the human brain is uniquely suited to throwing away empathy when you need to fight other groups of humans.Also, what passes for war crimes most of the time aren't acts of profound cruelty (at least compared to normal acts of war) but just stuff most countries have agreed are off limits for practical reasons. Shooting infantry with an anti material rifle is a war crime, even though its perfectly legal to shoot them with the same bullet from an aircraft. Or hey, being a mercenary has been illegal for decades. All they can do these days is private security for bases, they aren't allowed to fight wars.
>>737264043Are those the techniques you can use in Undertail Naranja?
>>737264279You know saying not to do it, is just going to make people do it.
>>737263552I feel like it would be played for laughs if she were.
>>737264358nah I'm on board with him. It's clearly just posts for the sake of getting a rise out of people who don't like the topic. Bad faith if you will.
>>737264214Yeah, I don't think DR Luzma would be like those other anons described.Plus, if she's not as strong and magically-powered, she's not as fun to instant-loss.
>>737264134>we're reaching levels of nope never thought possible before.Yeah, see, now you get it.This is why we send in the FEAR task force.
>>737264134The point of the TF fetish for a lot of people is the denial of agency and ego death. They want to be dominated in the most extreme way it is possible to be dominated.
>>737264214I'm thinking former gangster turned gym teacher. At best she's one of those ghetto security guards you sometimes see at gas stations in really bad neighborhoods.
I learned that kids can go to a shooting range at quite a young age, and so I've imagined Starlo and Clover becoming regulars at the local shooting range, with some old timey locals warming up to some of the monsters over Clover and Starlos shared interest in guns and westerns. Seeing the two cheesily engage in the wild west east and here and now endearing them to the locals.
>>737264219If its just one drop and he's wearing normal clothes then he's probably screwed. It would soak through his clothes. It'd need to be someone in a hazmat suit. Maybe Gordon Freeman. He's been through all manner of biohazards and his suit kept him safe.
>>737264575NTA, but as someone who is very into domination, I don't associate with those people.Being manhandled and overpowered by a big strong woman isn't the same thing as having your mind obliterated and being turned into a mindless sex slave, that's something else.
>>737264398She could be a bounty hunter, it's legal in some states and it's similar to what the mercenaries do in Undertale, either that or she really was a cartel member who left that life behind, she might live a civilian life, but she still has enough skill to kill most people and her house probably has multiple guns.
>>737264569the solution must be performed from orbit with extreme prejudice>>737264575man once you add ego death to the mix it's just absolute nightmare fuel. I get that these people are turned on by that but again, a fetish that by its nature removes the concept of (you) from the equation is kill it with fire territory.
>>737264669I'm imagining Starlo listening to all the fudlore spread by the local range boomers and taking it as a gospel because "a real human gunfighter told me"
>>737264728The Pointman is canonically wearing full-body armor with no skin exposed, he isn't even wearing fingerless gloves.He'll be fine.>Maybe Gordon Freeman. He's been through all manner of biohazards and his suit kept him safe.We don't know whether or not Gordon canonically wears a helmet, he could be at risk.
>>737264740Different form of it. Just like the difference between people who like vore and the people who like pregancy. Both like bellies, but not the same kind. These people want to get dominated and rewritten on a cellular level. I don't think I can really explain it beyond that because its a fetish and fetishes only make sense to those who have them.
>>737264432Yeah unlike the post that was made in the vg thread, this one is clearly just someone being an asshole.
>>737264771>the solution must be performed from orbit with extreme prejudiceWell, that's tamer than the first solution I thought of.When I first played the game, I thought a Halo ring would be the best way about it.
>>737264845Gordon with a helmet then
>>737264803Amazing, Those types love when someone is willing to listen to them, and Starlo would be unironically asking if there was any more "news" on any matters they could tell him about. Clover and Starlo eating a burg at the local diner after the shooting range while starlo goes on about what he heard about.that reminds me, someone wrote a green about everyone taking clover to his favorite cowboy themed restaraunt with animatronics (which has not closed down). I need to find that one again.
>>737264892>vgthere are two problems with this post anon.
>>737264845>We don't know whether or not Gordon canonically wears a helmet, he could be at risk.In HL2 EP1 Gordon is the only one that can get near the core thanks to his suit, the radiation would kill the others, I'm pretty sure Gordon canonically wears a helmet, it's just that they chose to represent him without one.
>>737265065Now I'm just confused, cause I don't know what you're talking about now.
>>737265192board names are always written with their / / on either side, and you said vg, and there is no /vg/ thread.
>>737262527>*crickets*
>>737265258Oh right that's what you meant, I should have put vrpg thread so I was more clear.
>>737265375well now you're just excluding the / to be rude.rude.
>>737265416Wait what?
>>737265490like I said, board names are always written with the forward slash on either side. It's been that way since image boards were a thing. When you leave those out it's one of those things. It's autism but it's ancient autism
>>737264649>gym teacherI imagine that's what DR!Zaer would do if he ever found a job, Luzma would be more like a shooting range instructor.>The first rule in firearm handling is never miss your target>The second is to have fun
I was thinking about it when I woke up, and I wanted to share this idea, since I haven't seen it around too often.While I don't personally feel too strongly towards Quetzali, I bet being constricted by her snake form, if she's big enough to actually do that, would feel amazing.Just, full-body pressure, being squeezed from all sides, but not painfully.Bet that's a great way to relieve stress, being squeezed by a snake gf after a long day of work.
>>737265749probably not terrible if you are able to tolerate not having free movement for a short time. Could be nice even.
>>737264928It didn't close, it got turned into a ninja restaurant. I think it had a couple lines about their "Japanese sushi" genuinely revolting Ceroba with how bad it was.
>>737265945I need to find that to save it. if anyones got it I'd appreciate it, otherwise I'm going to try and key word search it because I think it wasn't the only delivery in that thread.
>>737265623maybe she's the school security guard then. Ghetto schools have those. Also the neighborhood Val lives in has the patented 90s crime movie piss filter.
>>737265749>if she's big enough to actually do that,She looks like she's bigger than a Bermese python in her snake form so she probably could.>Just, full-body pressure, being squeezed from all sides, but not painfully.>Bet that's a great way to relieve stress, being squeezed by a snake gf after a long day of work.I bet it would feel good for her too. Snakes probably have this innate desire to coil around and squeeze things.
>>737265862>probably not terrible if you are able to tolerate not having free movement for a short time....I do kinda like being restrained sometimes.Depending on the context, obviously, but you know.I don't think it fits her personality, but I kinda like the idea of just letting her constrict me, relinquishing control to her for just a bit as she basically gives me a massage over most of my body.Man...
>>737266154maybe it's not outside of her personality if it's not in a domineering way. a more tentative "are you sure you're ok?" as she keeps from squeezing too hard.This also reminds me of the idea of ceroba using her talisman thing to stop your movement, as well as the idea that some might be sent into an unexpected panic because of it, catching the roba off guard.
>>737266131>She looks like she's bigger than a Bermese python in her snake form so she probably could.Have we seen her snake form?>I bet it would feel good for her too. Snakes probably have this innate desire to coil around and squeeze things.Ah, so it would do something for both parties involved, good.Imagine doing this with her, but then both of you are sleepy after the fact, so you just fall asleep with her coiled around you like that.
What are your opinions on Melody being adopted by Dina in DRY? Did you like it, or was it something you didn't want?
>>737266235I wonder if she used the freeze talisman on Chujin ever? Like in a kinky way or otherwise.
>>737265749I bet her feathers would feel pretty nice too if they make contact with your body while she "hugs" you, there is also the possibility of her body shapeshifting while giving you a normal hug and that's how you end in the coiling position.
>>737266323honestly it caught me off guard a lot, but after thinking about itI hate how people depict melody as this super hyper sadistic evil child instead of troubled, and the idea of her living with a monster feels like it gives room for her to have some development. I haven't talked about it since its shown at the very end, but I like it.
>>737266323i thought melody lived in the mystery house, that was about it
>>737266304>Have we seen her snake form?Yeah, that's the first form we see her in. And her head is the same size in human form, so going off of the proportions of snake, she would be large. At least man sized, probably longer to get the adequate thickness.>Imagine doing this with her, but then both of you are sleepy after the fact, so you just fall asleep with her coiled around you like that.Imagine falling asleep like this every night. Even when you don't fall asleep with her on you, you still wake to her wrapped around you lovingly, with a smile on her sleeping face.
>>737266235>a more tentative "are you sure you're ok?" as she keeps from squeezing too hard.Hm, I could see that.I could also see an anon continuously telling her to squeeze harder, as she gets more and more concerned.>This also reminds me of the idea of ceroba using her talisman thing to stop your movement, as well as the idea that some might be sent into an unexpected panic because of it, catching the roba off guard.Oh yeah, I was there for that.I'd be cool with it for kink stuff, but if she was using it to actually stop me from doing something, I'd be less cool about it.I'd be interested to see what her reaction would be to trying to use it on someone for some kind of "this is for your own good" reason, only for them to start freaking out and try and forcefully break out of it, harming themselves in the process.Angst!
>>737266304Pic related is actually the image that inspired the idea of the snake form, I made it for fun but people here really liked it and thought that it would be better if she were a feral snake.
>>737264928Roba paws
>>737266323I didn't get to that part yet. Also spoilers, anon.
>>737266507Huh, interesting.I may have to do something with that at some point.
>>737266507Good, now post feral Zaer
>>737266507there's also this fanart made by Oldetale anon of all people, which caught me by surprise when I first saw it.
>>737266487I was thinking of her doing it to try and be kinky and surprising anonand anon just flipping a switch into wide eyed panic, not even able to really fight against it properly. Anon taking a moment to really catch his composure back afterwards, and when he does being hit with pure dread as he realizes that the roba saw that side of him. Just, all higher function shutting down as the purest form of fight or flight blanks him out for a moment.
>>737266607Here you go.
>>737266487>only for them to start freaking out and try and forcefully break out of it, harming themselves in the process.>Angst!yes that would be interesting.
>>737266707that one artist upon seeing this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmpFO5FMCEo
>>737266354as odd as it is to say, I couldn't see her using it outside of a kinky situation with him since she mostly took his lead from what it appears in their relationship.
>>737266851You can't jerk off a feral rock
>>737266650Was it really that surprising?
>>737266676>I was thinking of her doing it to try and be kinky and surprising anonHm, I'm not sure if I like the idea of freaking out in a context like that necessarily, though I could see some ways that could work for me.I will refrain from posting a long and detailed bondage fantasy with Ceroba though, that might be a bit much.
>>737266676nta, but both ideas are pretty cool.
>>737266890well lets she got sent back in time to her past her self's body and had a chance to save from him killing himself, you think she'd use it there?
>>737266851I was gonna make a joke about "squeezing cum from a stone", but yeah, that works too.Man, I've been personally responsible for associating weird things to UTN characters twice now, huh?
>>737266916In general I wasn't expecting much fanart for the character, and less from another dev.
>>737267021>I was gonna make a joke about "squeezing cum from a stone"Yeah, you know all about that, don't you?
>>737266949yeah this is more if it was an anon like me that has severe claustrophobia. maybe after wards theres some comfort and a talk about how she wanted to try some things, but didn't mean to hurt (you). Maybe some easing your way into things with her, doing a bit of an emotional trust fall now that you know she's going to stop your movement this time. needless to say, I'm not into bondage, but the idea of working to get over that sheer terror for someone else gradually is a bit different.>>737266972I think it could be done in some fun ways at least. Maybe without being too overly edgy even.
>>737267021It's okay anon, Undertale made people want to bone skeletons, it's only natural a fangame would make them want to get their rocks off with a rock.
>>737267019yes absolutely. She's so filled with regret and pain over her past, and was willing to become the devil itself if need be just to fulfill a shred of his legacy, if she thought she could stop him before it got out of control, she'd probably go much further.
>>737267172I wish greenanon was here so he could write a green of that.
>>737266726I'm imagining Ceroba, covering her mouth with shock and tears in her eyes after anon nearly dislocated his arm trying to forcefully pull out of her magic restraints.Not sure what would happen after that, but I like that idea.
>>737267156Actually, if I'm honest, I think that one was more just because I thought it was funny rather than being something that I actually found super hot by itself.
>>737267261 I might try if this headache will calm down a bit.
>>737267103Well, Zaer's made out of crystals, so he's actually a mineral, and not a stone, so technically that joke doesn't work.And anyway, I only did it the one time, so it's not that big of a deal.
>>737267264I remember in Bleach there being a lot "magic restraint" techniques and one of the characters warning someone held in them to quite struggling before they permanently damage their soul. I imagine breaking magic restraints would be like struggling against cuffs, only instead of it digging into flesh and twisting joints, its damaging your soul.
>>737267424I always associate this image with the drawover of Susie waking up to Kris making a dark fountain.
>>737267660while waiting for chapter 3, that was honestly one of the best images.
>>737267436gems are usually referred to as stones
>>737267450Hm, maybe.Now I wonder how Ceroba would react to accidentally hurting the anon she loves when they start trying to break out of her restraints.I can see her releasing the restraints as soon as she realizes what the anon is doing, and the anon clutching their chest near their soul as they look at her with panic and fear.I guess further context would require knowing why Ceroba actually restrained them to begin with, and I do like the idea of her initially having done it to "for their own good", somehow, only for it to massive backfire like that.I'd love to see a green of that, but I imagine that's a bit too far outside most anon's tastes.
>>737266021>maybe she's the school security guard then. Ghetto schools have those. Also the neighborhood Val lives in has the patented 90s crime movie piss filterYeah, security guard seems to fit better with the how mercs seem to work in Undertale, I still like the idea of Luzma formerly being part of a gang/cartel
>>737267680do you have it? I don't have it saved
>>737267172Honestly, I'm not sure I see that.If she was willing to go so far *for* Chujin, I don't think she'd be willing to act in such a way that would ostensibly *oppose* him and his wishes, at least if we're talking about her before the UTY pacifist ending.
>>737267725alright, I'm gonna take some dayquil, then take a shot at this, the other version and possibly this>>737267172might be a fun warm up.
>>737267725Its not outside my tastes. I love angst like that. Maybe anon wants to do something self destructive and stupid, and she's not going to make the same mistake she did last time. Unfortunately, she just makes another mistake instead.
>>737267816if she knew the end result of his actions already, I can see her standing against what she knows for a fact to be a dead end literally and figuratively
>>737267816I was asking under the idea that this is Roba after she had failed completely, Clover included. Maybe she kills herself after finding out what Alphys did to Kanako, then wakes up in her bed a year prior as though none of it had happened.
>>737268000>I can see her standing against what she knows for a fact to be a dead end literally and figurativelyEhh, I'm not sure about that.Ceroba stands down at the end of UTY because Clover had defeated her, and while she does give up pursuing Chujin's legacy, she doesn't seem to do so out of necessarily thinking that the project is inherently impossible.Honestly, if she was sent back in time, I could see her keeping Chujin from getting himself killed, but not necessarily stopping his project altogether.
>>737267919Well, I'll look forward to it if you do it, but don't force yourself.I've got a migraine myself right now, and I can already tell today isn't gonna be fun.
>>737268206to be honest this headache has been with me for a week straight, but if I can get it at least bearable, then fuck it we ball.
>>737267929Maybe not *too* stupid though, I like some mild ambiguity with these things.Self-destructive is fine though, that's like a solid 50% of my personal fantasies with Ceroba anyway.
>>737268243Aw man, that sucks anon.I really hope that goes away soon.
>>737266553Sorry, forgot it was a spoiler
Honestly, I kinda am surprised Ceroba's bondage magic doesn't come up too often.I think I've only ever seen it drawn twice, first by Sig, and much later by myself.It's a fun idea, when used in the right contexts.
>>737263074>Sounds pretty cool. You have any gameplay or character ideas for this?I would love to make a game where it has a section or a side content that's very similar to Changed latex beasts, since I love their designs and love the idea of something that's like zombie furries.Now the real question is, would it be a good idea to admit where I got my inspirations?The kind of game I want to make is kind of like Hollow Knight in terms how disturbing and horrific it can be, but still remains completely SFW. I mean, if you were to make a game that's for general audience like Undertale, would you admit that you got inspired by something that's NSFW or even borderline pornographic? I feel like that may turn away some people even if the elements you were inspired by are SFW. Don't know if I want to admit that, since I want to have a clean reputation >Also kinda tangentially related, but have you read Rubyquest? Its got a similar premise to that.I did, but only at the start . I really gotta continue it since I do enjoy the art>>737264134>ok I conceptually get how people can be into this, even if this is absolutely not up my alleyThe author had a rough childhood and was bullied a lot, so I guess that's the end results I mean I also had a rough childhood where I got bullied a lot, but I didn't turn out like that
>>737266405It just that it's kinda weird? I haven't seen it being considered at all. And why would 'tegrity still act like a pos, she can't even be simply racist now and has a loving and caring parent. I think it's too much of a stretch that there are two humans in town and both have monster single mothers. Wanted to hear what anons think her whole deal is
>>737268814>love the idea of something that's like zombie furries.Same here. I remember really liking the sort of fleshy animatronic furry look that the walten files went for and based a bunch of characters on that.>Now the real question is, would it be a good idea to admit where I got my inspirations?Depends on who your audience is. If you're trying to sell to furries, go ahead. I'm sure they wouldn't care, may even like it more. Normies may be turned off by it though. Then again, changed is popular with furries, and they don't even seem to know its a furry porn game.>, would you admit that you got inspired by something that's NSFW The creative lead of Earthbound said the Giygas fight was inspired by a movie he saw when he was little where a woman was raped and hacked to pieces by a gang of soldiers. Toby is well known for writing The Baby Is You before he made Undertale. I don't think people would jump your case over it. And it being furry is probably already a major tell of what you're into anyways.>Don't know if I want to admit that, since I want to have a clean reputation Could always work under a pseudonym.
>>737269084So something important, is that whatever trauma or troubles that caused melody to act out, dont go away overnight, and for some kids, they actually surface worse as they get to the rebellious years since they are trying to cope before theyve learned proper coping, all the while dealing with hormonal changes. It can be a very tough time for people who've been through some bad stuff. I know its speculation saying she has in fact been through shit, but it makes sense more than just "oh shes like that for no reason.But if you walk around town, including the hospital I think, you get a unique piece of dialogue that doeant show up at any other point one of the flower girls says that we should all keep being nice to melody and she'll come around eventually like cole did
>>737268814>The author had a rough childhood and was bullied a lot, so I guess that's the end resultshmm, you know, there's a lot of different ways that people can react to bullying. Maybe in this persons case he directed it inwards and came to value his own sense of self less, and in a somewhat disgusting twist of fate, began to fetishize that loss of self. the idea of becoming something else, someone else entirely while erasing all traces of the pathetic self that he was, becoming erotic to them.Having typed that, I am not more comfortable now with the concept than before.>>737268790it feels like an attack that overall people forget about entirely.
>>737266482>Yeah, that's the first form we see her in. And her head is the same size in human form, so going off of the proportions of snake, she would be large.Oh, so her head in the shop menu is her in her snake form?Huh, I guess that makes sense.>Imagine falling asleep like this every night. Even when you don't fall asleep with her on you, you still wake to her wrapped around you lovingly, with a smile on her sleeping face.That does sound very nice.I imagine it might get troublesome if you wake up before her though, and you need to get out of bed while she maintains her tight grip on you.I do kinda like the idea of wanting to get up and do something, but still being coiled by her as she sleeps, and just giving in to the mandatory snake cuddles though.As long as you don't have anything you *need* to do that day, maybe just relaxing in her coil would be nice.
>>737269586>Oh, so her head in the shop menu is her in her snake form?her head and that little bit of tail. Its the only real way to explain her sitting in that position>I imagine it might get troublesome if you wake up before her though, and you need to get out of bed while she maintains her tight grip on you.You think that's bad, imagine how it is any time one of you gets up to use the bathroom. Whichever one gets up is going to wake the other.
>>737269735>You think that's bad, imagine how it is any time one of you gets up to use the bathroom. Whichever one gets up is going to wake the other.>anon slowly taking chip damage from holding in his piss because his snake gf is wrapped too tightly around him and she likes to sleep in
>>737269586>Oh, so her head in the shop menu is her in her snake form?Originally, she was meant to be an snake anthro in the shop menu, I didn't draw the rest of her body because I'm lazy and I wasn't sure if I could make it look good, but after enough people interpreted her sprite as being a feral snake I decided to roll with it, so now Quetzali is meant to be in her snake form when you see her in the shop menu.
>>737270148Well, that's an interesting way of handling things.I mean that as a compliment, that's pretty funny.Anyway, while I don't see myself falling for Quetzali the way I have for some other characters, I think I might be tempted to draw her in her snake form soon.Constricting sounds like fun, I dunno.
>>737270290>I mean that as a compliment, that's pretty funny.It is funny, I do like the idea of her being able to switch forms tho, most people think Quetzalcoalt is a giant feathered snake, but that's only a form he takes in some myths, so the inconsistency with her design retroactively makes sense.
>>737264043Is this game coming out or not?
>>737264043Is this even an Undertale fangame at this point?
>>737271961You can say that for a lot of fangames.
>>737272032I don't think any fangame strays as far from the source material as this one does.
>>737272032>>737272064At this point, I think the guy should focus on making a VN with furry characters instead of an Undertale fangame, he still hasn't shown any actual gameplay footage, only mock ups.
Also, man, thread activity really slowed down fast, huh?
>>737270290>Constricting sounds like fun, I dunno.it begins again
>>737269195>Same here. I remember really liking the sort of fleshy animatronic furry look that the walten files went for and based a bunch of characters on that.Would it be okay to see your characters?>Depends on who your audience is.I did say general audience, so normies are included. Although I would be lying to to say that I'm not also aiming to furries too. UT/DR fits the kind of audience I'm aiming. And maybe Animal Crossing and Star Fox too since it's also popular with both furries and normies>The creative lead of Earthbound said the Giygas fight was inspired by a movie he saw when he was little where a woman was raped and hacked to pieces by a gang of soldiers. God damn.I didn't know that>Toby is well known for writing The Baby Is You before he made Undertale. I feel like a lot of people can brush this off as him being immature at the time like they did with Earthbound Halloween Hack. Not sure how this applies to my case here, since I'm interested in making something that's tame and SFW in comparison >I don't think people would jump your case over it. And it being furry is probably already a major tell of what you're into anyways.True, but I'm pretty worried of people to think I'm a degenerate (Yes, I recognize the irony of saying that while posting on this site and wanting to make a furry game)I'd like to be someone like Nightmargin >Could always work under a pseudonym.By this, you mean use an online name?I'm already doing that, but if you mean use another name, then the issue becomes having to go two different identities online since I also want to post art tooAnd knowing the internet, I feel like it shouldn't be difficult for someone to dig info about me and find my real name. That's why I'm feeling pretty frantic about the whole thing>>737269574Woah, you actually nailed about the author I remember how he said something about how he wanted to be something else so he doesn't feel pain anymore. It's pretty sad, mate
>>737272390No, no, Quetzali is not becoming another scrimblo of mine just because I'm massively autistic and like pressure like that.I'm not so easily swayed.
>>737272609But it does show that she has the potential to become another of your scrimblos, we still don't know much about her, once again Quetzali proves to be the "potential woman" of UTN
Alright, I skipped any reasonable sense of build up just to stop my "not writing anything" streak.>Past and future, fate and destiny>Ceroba had set aside her ambitions, along with her hopes and dreams. She held all of her faith in Chujin, and then he was gone, crushed under his own work, the weight of sins he bore for the sake of those around him.Then she carried that weight, and found herself far out of her depth. The choice she made that day, the faint hope that her daughter was still alive, clouded by the fear that she may be better off dead than how she left her.She was willing to become the devil itself to finish her late husband's work, and a devil she had become, only to be once again ground to a halt. A broken and bloodied human of all things pleading with her to stop, to find another way to live. What more did she have to live for? Couldn’t he understand that? He couldn’t, and yet, she yielded to his strength of will.>No, it was more than that, the determination with which that child fought, to see a human of all things refuse to kill, refuse to believe that there wasn’t a better way. She wanted to give up, and yet she also wanted to be better. Damn her conflicted soul. She laughed dryly at that, as if she wasn’t damned as it were. That same child gave up his very soul after refusing to let her take it. He believed there was another way, but now days later, having handed that very soul over to the wretched king, she felt hollow. Starlo hadn’t ceased in his efforts, to try and drag her to her feet, to give her that chance to be a better person, the one that everyone foolishly believed she could be. She laid back in bed, finding little comfort in the dark, as tears rolled down her face. It didn’t matter what they said, she had lost control of her fate long ago. Too little too late, all the answers in her hand for a puzzle that broke years ago. What good was knowing where to place the pieces when they’d fallen out of reach?
>>737272845>Chujin, Kanako… even Clover. If she had just one more chance, god if she had just one more chance… she’d save them all.>As the night finally claimed her, the wheels of fate ground screeching to a halt.–>Ceroba awoke gradually as light crept in from the doorway. Had she fallen asleep in the master bedroom? It gave her chills just to be in her. Cold and empty ever since Chujin passed away. For the first time in a long time, she felt motivated to start her day, if for no other reason than to flee from memories lurking in every corner. >A floor board creaked from elsewhere in the estate. She wasn’t alone.>Her mind raced as her nerves lit up like lightning. Even if Starlo had been worried enough to check on her, he would have surely knocked on her door for hours before breaking in while she slept. She eased around the corner, catching footfalls crossing the dining room. She had little to lose at this point, if nothing else, she refused to be afraid within her own home. The home Chujin had built for her, the legacy he had left.>She swung open the door, magic flaring up behind her as she brought grief and fury to bear from the depths of her heart. How dare you, how could you, how… could it be. Any words she hoped to summon died in her throat as she saw the ‘intruder’. Chujin stood in the center of the room, alarm and worry, as well as exhaustion flitted across his face as Ceroba's magic fizzled out. Was she dreaming? Was it a nightmare in the making? >She didn’t care.>“Ceroba, is something the ma-” Ceroba tackled him in an embrace, nearly sending him to the ground as she buried her face in his chest. She’d been plagued by nightmares night after night, year after year since his death, but she could feel it, the connection in their souls. This was real. Chujin reeled back before laughing in surprise, “Woah honey, I’m used to Kanako tackling me like that but this is new. Is… is everything ok?”
>>737272715I'm not sure, her personality is nice and all, but she doesn't immediately stick out to me like she does for a lot of other anons.By comparison, it only took me connecting a single detail in Luzma's description to something before I started liking her more.I think I should be able to resist developing any kind of complex feelings for Quetzali.
>>737272913>Ceroba laughed as well as she stepped back, wiping the tears from her eyes. No this time it was as though waking FROM a nightmare. She smiled, setting Chujin at ease as she dismissed the concern. “No dear, I’m sorry I just had a nightmare.” She brushed off her dress regaining her own composure, “I must have slept in. Have you already eaten breakfast?”>Chujin grimaced as he checked the time, “Ah, I’m sorry dear. I’ve got to hurry off to work before it gets any later.” He grabbed his coffee off the table, “You know how it is.”>Past and future, fate and destiny. >As Chujin turned to leave, Ceroba felt icy dread grip her heart. She’d asked for a chance, prayed for something to keep her going. What lay before her was beyond her wildest dreams. Something she could have never in her life planned for. It was too sudden, all at once everything was in her hands. If she let this moment slip by, could she hope to stand in the way of fate ever again? >A magical talisman formed around Chujin, halting him with a sudden gasp, “C-ceroba. What, why?.”>She’d resolved herself to do whatever it took, back when there was no solutions to her cursed fate, but now? She sighed, as she wrapped her arms around him from behind, “Chujin, we need to talk.”
>>737272519>I remember how he said something about how he wanted to be something else so he doesn't feel pain anymore. It's pretty sad, mategod damn, yeah that's final level terminal escapism it sounds like.as a side note though>I feel like a lot of people can brush this off as him being immature at the time like they did with Earthbound Halloween Hack. Not sure how this applies to my case here, since I'm interested in making something that's tame and SFW in comparison The biggest problem authors have when they have a past they don't want to acknowledge, is acknowledging it in a shameful manner. When people want to throw your past at you, they aren't worth even acknowledging the presence of, but a lot of creators can't help but "respond to the allegations". Genuinely the best answer is to just not reply.
>>737266417Same.>>737269084My best guess is that she was only somewhat recently rehomed to be under Dina's care, and she's still intensely distrustful and traumatised from her previous abusive upbringing. She seems to be on fairly good terms with Dina, but she distrusts everyone else because she doesn't know them well enough yet. Her inferiority complex makes her perceive everything as some sort of aggression against her, which is why she lashes out against everyone else: the best defence is a good offence.>>737269306>spoilerThe interesting thing about this is that Cole and Melody seem to have different temperaments. Most people in town dismiss Melody as being too irrational to reason with. My take is that Cole was simply reserved or cold towards the others, whereas Melody outright antagonises them.
>>737272519>Would it be okay to see your characters?it would if I still had them. I lost those drawings years ago>God damn. I didn't know thatYeah, he snuck into a theater and got traumatized for life. He said he wanted to recreate that feeling for that boss fight.>Not sure how this applies to my case here, since I'm interested in making something that's tame and SFW in comparison I don't think people will care. If they play the actual furry porn game for the gameplay despite not being gay furries, then I think they won't mind some game taking inspiration from it.>I'd like to be someone like Nightmargin I don't know who that is>True, but I'm pretty worried of people to think I'm a degenerateIf you're trying to sell on steam, I don't think people care there. Its only big studios that care about that sort of thing, and you're not selling to them anyways.>then the issue becomes having to go two different identities online since I also want to post art tooIts not that hard. I have three different online personas, and a lot of throwaway accounts. I've even posted art to multiple different ones.>And knowing the internet, I feel like it shouldn't be difficult for someone to dig info about me and find my real name. That's why I'm feeling pretty frantic about the whole thingYou don't have to keep it secret. Its more about just keeping the two things separate in people's minds. Sure they may know you do freak shit on your alt, but they never think about it because they aren't following your alt. For example, do you know how many people are fans of Joji, but don't know about Filthy Frank? Lots.> how he wanted to be something else so he doesn't feel pain anymore. It's pretty sad, mateHonestly that's a top shelf horror concept. Seems like something I would have played around with back in my "edgy monster OC" days. You know, the one I mentioned earlier about the guy with acid blood.
>>737272845nose nuzzling is Toby's second greatest invention (the first being scrimblo women)
>>737272983Not the anon who suggested this idea, but that is pretty good.I like to imagine Ceroba saving Chujin would cause a butterfly effect though, since his continued presence in the underground could potentially change the trajectory of the lives of the various UTY cast members in such a way that they're fundamentally different by the time UTY would take place, or perhaps not even present in the parts of the underground Clover would travel to.I guess I'm viewing this like how G-Man allowed Alyx to change the future/past in HLA, I dunno.
>>737273415I think this would definitely change a lot of things. but something that would remain a constant to me is that Ceroba would know for a fact what day Clover was going to fall underground. Honestly it could be spun into a much more developed story but I realized, as much as I like Chujin and have a strong internal idea of what kind of things he would do in a given situation, I don't have a strong grasp of his talking patterns. I need to review the dialogue we have of him in yellow and now DRY.
>>737264043>>737271694>>737271961the dev released a statement a while ago saying that the demo is 85% complete but due to IRL and mental stuff it keeps getting delayedtake that as you will
Someone needs to draw Sadie doing an ojou sama laugh. she's practically doing one already
>>737273408I love the images that have been born as a result of the nose nuzzling contest.
>>737273497>I think this would definitely change a lot of things. but something that would remain a constant to me is that Ceroba would know for a fact what day Clover was going to fall underground.Well, she might not remember the exact date, only a general period of time.If I were to bounce you backwards in time by a year, would you be able to remember the exact day something in particular happened, if you weren't keeping track of it before you were sent back in time?Her having only a vague idea of when Clover actually entered the underground (or even just when they arrived in the Wild East), could make things pretty hectic if she tried to actually do anything about it.Anyway, I just like the idea of Chujin being alive resulting in Clover having a very different journey through the underground, like maybe this results in Martlet being absent from her guard post when Clover comes through, because she's working on something with Chujin that day, so Clover never goes through the path he takes normally now, something like that.>as much as I like Chujin and have a strong internal idea of what kind of things he would do in a given situation, I don't have a strong grasp of his talking patterns. I need to review the dialogue we have of him in yellow and now DRY.Yeah, grasping character's speech patterns can be difficult, even when you know how they *act*.Still, this was good.Hope your headache's cleared up now.
>>737272950>I'm not sure, her personality is nice and all, but she doesn't immediately stick out to me like she does for a lot of other anons.I think what made anons interested in her was the passion/autism she shows towards what she likes (ignoring the obvious appeal of her being a snake girl), if you aren't into that sort of personality then I doubt you'll develop more feelings for her, but who knows, UTN is still in development
>>737272983Roba and Nako paws
>>737273783do you have that one of kanako and clover nuzzling?
>>737273826Headaches doing a lot better, thank you. Dayquil makes me a little fuzzy headed but so it goes.>>737273826>If I were to bounce you backwards in time by a year, would you be able to remember the exact day something in particular happened, if you weren't keeping track of it before you were sent back in time?Roll of the dice. I know the exact date for some of the most important days of my life, and others I can't stop thinking of , but can't remember when it happened. Ultimately, you've got a fair point with that though. I think it would change a lot of things in exactly the way you're talking about, but I wonder if Roba could get Chujin to follow HER lead on changing the future, I'm not sure, but I wonder if she'd be the kind of "time traveler" to not try and keep her time travel a secret from chujin.Maybe? I don't know. It would make for an interesting story.
>>737273914>if you aren't into that sort of personality then I doubt you'll develop more feelings for her, but who knows, UTN is still in developmentI do like passion and autism, having both of those things myself, I just don't know if she's passionate/autistic over the sorts of things I'd like.And while she is very cute physically, and the concept of being constricted by her is a very appealing one to me, she's not as particularly attractive to me as Luzma, Reynault, or Ceroba are.It's the whole "this is brilliant, but I like this" thing.
>>737273737>the dev released a statement a while ago saying that the demo is 85%Last time he said he had a demo ready
>>737274157I think that was just the dev farming for likes, here is the latest "update" post https://gamejolt.com/p/knightyume-and-sorta-an-apologue-rmm8mh6s
>>737273928yes but it's "somewhere" in my folder and i'm having trouble finding it. I'll look again after I finish writing the next one if someone else hasn't posted it already.
>>737274056>Headaches doing a lot better, thank you. Dayquil makes me a little fuzzy headed but so it goes.Glad to hear it.That also reminded me to take some meds for my migraine, because I forgot to do that earlier somehow.>Roll of the dice. I know the exact date for some of the most important days of my life, and others I can't stop thinking of , but can't remember when it happened. Ultimately, you've got a fair point with that though.This is the kinda thing I've given a lot of thought to, how changing the past changes the future.For as many things in my past as I'd like to try and correct, I can't guarantee that I'd still have the things I like about my present if I made those changes, which is why I never do it, there's no way to know what kind of trade you're making.>I wonder if Roba could get Chujin to follow HER lead on changing the future, I'm not sure, but I wonder if she'd be the kind of "time traveler" to not try and keep her time travel a secret from chujin.I think she might try and lead Chujin down a *different* path for achieving his general goals of strengthening monsterkind and making them more well-equipped to handle danger, but I don't think she could ever talk him down from it entirely if she really wanted to.He really seems like the kind of man that, when push comes to shove, will double down on what he thinks is right, whatever it takes.He literally chased his goals to his own death, then passed them on to someone less equipped to handle them than he was, so I highly doubt he'd be the kind of guy to just back down from that entirely, even if it was Ceroba herself trying to make him.Redirection, possibly, but he'd never completely back down.
>>737274214>I'll look again after I finish writing the next one if someone else hasn't posted it already.Oh, you're gonna write the Ceroba/Anon one too?
>>737274517>there's no way to know what kind of trade you're making.I agree overall, but I think Ceroba may be the type who would take that gamble>but he'd never completely back downI don't 100 percent agree with this, even though I do think he's insanely stubborn, I think he could be sent down a completely different path if he was shown "the right" evidence. I'll talk about it more when I finish writing the others, but I have an idea where that story could go if I wasn't working on getting back to my other two longer stories.>>737274578I'd like to do two variations of ceroba/anon at least if the dark spirit stays with me.It really astounds me that I just can't sit down and write about the bird.
>>737273761maybe you should
>>737274214That kanako looks so derpy
>>737275065I try not to look at it every time because it's a really good image but genuinely what is going on there.
>>737257979Why is the Undertale Yellow fanbase so much more autistic than the already pretty autistic Undertale fanbase?
>>737274759>I agree overall, but I think Ceroba may be the type who would take that gambleYeah, probably.IIRC, someone on AO3 was writing a story where Ceroba's the one with time powers in UTY, and is actually trying to get Clover through the underground for their own safety, but Clover always keeps dying at some point in the Steamworks.Can't remember what it was called though.>I don't 100 percent agree with this, even though I do think he's insanely stubborn, I think he could be sent down a completely different path if he was shown "the right" evidence.Yeah, that's what I was saying.Not about the soul serum specifically, just his general endeavor to give monsterkind an edge in case of a second war.He could probably be talked down from the serum project if he was shown what went wrong, like talking down The Master in Fallout, but I don't see Chujin as the kind of guy to just throw in the towel entirely and live out the rest of his days without at least trying to solve what he sees as a problem.>I'd like to do two variations of ceroba/anon at least if the dark spirit stays with me.Ooh, nice. Hopefully you remain energized enough to do so, I'd love to see them.What variations though, exactly?>It really astounds me that I just can't sit down and write about the bird.Yeah, sometimes that happens.I do still intend to make a small (and normal) Martlet/Anon drawing at some point, as I promised, but god if I just don't have enough time lately.As soon as my semester ends, I will burn myself to a crisp getting everything done. I will burn like the brightest star.
>>737275140Because it's a fanbase of fanmade content, they're are always more autistic than the original fanbase no matter where you go.
>>737272913>Was it a nightmare in the making?I remember how her Chujin nightmares go
>>737275143>but I don't see Chujin as the kind of guy to just throw in the towel entirely and live out the rest of his days without at least trying to solve what he sees as a problem.I think I agree with this enough. The end plan I think, has Ceroba trying to get Clover and Chujin to work together in a hare brained way that doesn't involve either of them dying because that was her wish that (something) granted her sending her back in time. They are stubborn, but so is she, and she's going to try to out stubborn fate to save everyone this time. Maybe it's a bit Ceroba wanky but I don't care!>What variations though, exactly?Ceroba trying to stop anon "for his own good" and Ceroba using the talisman in bed, only to be caught off guard with Anons panic.we''ll see if I have any more in me after that, but I'm just glad to break my no-writing streak I was falling into.>I do still intend to make a small (and normal) Martlet/Anon drawing at some pointyou're good anon. Just the fact that you've expressed the intention to one day do so makes me feel good. I have dumb ideas for requests one day, but I do get a real kick out of just seeing anons draw stuff in these threads even if some of it is "something else".>I will burn myself to a crisp getting everything done.do take care of yourself.>>737275252I had that green by oldentale anon in the back of my head, thinking "yeah that's probably one of the nightmares she remembers having".
>>737273228I think the best answer is to own it and be cool about it. Toby owns all the cringe shit he's done in the past, even stuff like the Halloween Hack. Its a mark of incredible sincerity.
>>737273497I hope this gets expanded on in the future, and if possible I'd like to see that talk Roba wants to have with Chujin. Hell, I'd like to see him play dumb about losing his job, and have her confront him over the secret lab and how he's slowly killing himself. I love drama like that.
>>737273415>I guess I'm viewing this like how G-Man allowed Alyx to change the future/past in HLA, I dunnoGaster nudging things to make Kanaclover happen
>>737275413>Maybe it's a bit Ceroba wanky but I don't care!Eh, maybe things could work out.She might need to take things slowly at first though, don't wanna rush into another bad timeline.>Ceroba trying to stop anon "for his own good" and Ceroba using the talisman in bed, only to be caught off guard with Anons panic.Ah, I see.>we''ll see if I have any more in me after that, but I'm just glad to break my no-writing streak I was falling into.If you do, I would almost like to see an alternate-alternate version where she uses it in bed and things go well, but that's just a me thing don'tworryaboutit>you're good anon. Just the fact that you've expressed the intention to one day do so makes me feel good.Yes, but I do still need to do it.At least I should be able to take care of that one thing for (I believe) Oldentale anon by Tuesday, but I have something to do before then.>do take care of yourself.I do what I can, though I am swiftly approaching the three-week long panic attack part of my semester, so that's not gonna be terribly feasible for a while.
>>737275608Hm, pass.
>>737273826>like maybe this results in Martlet being absent from her guard post when Clover comes through,Maybe she never ends up working for the guard at all, or maybe she quits after Ceroba talks him into going back into carpentry. She only got that job after Chujin closed up shop after all. Chujin would need a job if he's decided to drop his death spiral.Also, imagine if Flowey retained his memories from this change. Like he finds himself sent back by months when he knows for a fact he didn't reset, and now things are playing out much differently from before.
>>737275843nta but I do like that green the other day of DRY being gasters side project while he works on normal DR. just a funny idea. I also really like that main DR idea of Gaster being a fun gang hype man during the knight fight.
>>737275920Yes, and that's all well and good, but kindly refrain from talking to *me* about such things.
>>737274056I think Ceroba would tell Chujin the whole truth. She still loves and trusts him, and she knows she's not nearly smart enough to run some Machiavellian scheme to save everyone. Even if she takes a more active role in her life, she'd still want Chujin's active involvement.
>>737269306I hate when a character's bad actions are excused by having a le sad sob backstory. Just because something unfortunate happend to you doesn't mean you have to take it out on others. This mindset only encourages horrible behavior, and lets innocents suffer while perpetrators get away scot-free.I hope that Melody actually faces her actions and improves, instead of doing a Susie moment. Sometimes, kindness is not the answer Perhaps Kanako herself will try to take matters in her own hands, and Cole will have to step in to prevent Kanako doing bad things. Despite the fact that they are very close friends while Melody is the enemy
>>737275845>Maybe she never ends up working for the guard at all, or maybe she quits after Ceroba talks him into going back into carpentry. She only got that job after Chujin closed up shop after all. Chujin would need a job if he's decided to drop his death spiral.Either way, Martlet not being there when Clover passes through Snowdin could have some consequences, most immediately being the fact that they take a completely different route through the underground.It reminds me of that alternate history story, 1983 Doomsday, where Stanislov Petrov is at a meeting on the day when he normally refused an order to launch ICBMs towards the United States, resulting in WW3 happening one morning out of nowhere.The right man in the wrong place can make all the difference in the world.
>>737275143>As soon as my semester ends, I will burn myself to a crisp getting everything done. I will burn like the brightest star.Brighter than Luzma?
>>737274759>I agree overall, but I think Ceroba may be the type who would take that gambleIts less of a type thing and more of just desperation. She has very little to lose and quite a lot to gain. She's desperate.>>737274517Chujin is willing to change gears. He ditched the Axis project when he got that soul.
>>737275089fox tardism
>>737275140Well you take Undertale, then you make a fangame, then you make fan content of that, and you get this thread. That's autism cubed.
>>737276214>Chujin is willing to change gears. He ditched the Axis project when he got that soul.That's what I was saying, please read more of what I said before replying.I'm not trying to be snarky, I was literally saying that he'd be willing to redirect his efforts, just that he wouldn't be willing to abandon the idea of working to give monsterkind some kind of edge entirely.
>>737276073>excusedchild psychology is not excusing, it's explaining, and by explaining, we understand how to address the issues. A lot of Child psychology was founded on terrible, unethical experiments, but at the very least through observation, we've come to understand a good amount of cause and effect. thus there are different rehabilitation strategies for different kinds of traumas.Free will is (arguably) an illusion, we are extremely complicated machines, that have not fully understood our own repair manuals, but there are procedures that are known to work.
>>737276192Quite possibly.
>>737275143Maybe Chujin could be talked into something that won't kill him instead. Like instead of unstable soul science, he revisits the robot idea and tries shopping it around to other customers. Or maybe he needs to revisit the really old stuff, fortifying the underground. He was an architect by trade until he started working at the steamworks, and comes from a family of architects. The monsters are in a nice defensible position, so maybe he could work on making the place so fortified no humans could possibly get in and go on a rampage like that again.
>>737273310An interesting take! Yeah, that's probably the case. But I still wonder, why Dina exactly? I guess DRYanon had to make someone adopt her. Hopefully it will be explained how that came about.
>Anon was working himself to the bone again. >No, again isn’t the right word for this. It was worse than ever. Ceroba had begun to genuinely fear for him. The harrowed look in his eyes every night he came home. >No once again that was wrong, the pain in his eyes was set in stone even as he set out in the morning. What's worse is he’d become more stubborn than ever. She appreciated his spirit, his resolve, but when he got it in his head that he was doing the right thing, he wouldn’t listen to anything else. She couldn’t even drag him to bed if he didn’t leave the work site until the next day had rolled over. He was killing himself through his work, for her sake. She couldn’t put into words the pain that sunk into her chest watching him leave in the morning already defeated. Watching him walk the same path she’d seen before. >She bit down on her own resolve, she wasn’t going to stand for this any longer. She’d rather lose the entire damn home and life his job had earned for them, if only she could keep from losing him to that same cursed fate.>Anon trudged towards the door miserably. Ready to do what he had to do, what he had chosen to do. It was a man's fate to walk his own path. He reached towards the door, but Ceroba pushed past him, placing herself in the way.>She clasped Anon’s hand in her paws, “Dear, I really need you to take today off.” She couldn’t hold back the worry in her voice, but anon cocked an eyebrow at her.>“Roba, you know I’ve got to get to work. If there’s something important I’ll take care of it after work alright?”>Ceroba's lip quivered briefly, but she stood her ground, “No Anon, I mean it. I need you to take today off. You’re working too much and… I need you to listen to me.”>Anon frowned before reaching past her defiantly, “Look, I’m fine. I’m going to work, I love you and I’ll talk to you tonight.”
>>737276714>Ceroba was pushed out of the way as he pulled the door open, and for a moment she felt helpless. Her heart ached, she’d been through this before. What is the bond between two people, what do her feelings matter if she won’t do what it takes to protect what she has here and now.>“I’m sorry anon, but this is for your own good.” She clapped her hands together, summoning a talisman in Anon’s path, freezing him in place. She hated doing this, but he’d been complaining of chest pains and was more forgetful lately. She was terrified at what he was doing to his health, and selfishly she knew, she was terrified of being left alone again. She walked out in front of him, expecting to see his shock, guilt already pulled at her heart, but the look on his face chilled her.>He looked to her with a mix of fear and fury boiling behind his eyes. He could barely speak through the talisman but he mouthed the words laced with betrayal, “H-how c-could you.” >She pleaded with him, “Anon Please, I can’t watch you do this to yourself. Y-you’re going to come inside and let your body rest.”>Anon's soul was deaf to her words as he began thrashing against the charm. Ceroba’s eyes went wide with fear. She’d never seen him like this, but worse yet, she could sense the strain he was putting himself under. A normal restraint, shackles the body, and so a magical restraint… she begged as she drew near, “Anon please, you’ll hurt yourself!” Anon lashed against the restraint once more, she could feel it pulling against his soul, he had to stop, he had to! She clenched her hands in front of her as her voice choked with emotion, “Anon please I- I, I don’t want to lose- I can’t.” Tears formed in her eyes, still anon strained with all his might. >A crack rang out amidst the quiet morning air. Ceroba fell to her knees as she released the talisman before any more damage could be done. She covered her face with her hands and sobbed.
>>737275413On the subject of Roba trying to save Chujin, maybe she can get together with Martlet and Chujin's other friends to have an intervention over him working himself to death. I'm sure Martlet being in the guard, may even have a more productive way for him to work towards protecting the monsters. If she could get him in touch with Undyne, I think she'd be a lot more receptive to Axis than Asgore was. Especially since number 14 is actually a very capable fighting machine, unlike the ones Asgore saw. Or failing that, maybe he could help her set up better defenses around the entrances to the underground. >I had that green by oldentale anonI mainly remember it because I wrote it
>>737276714>>737276748Damn, that hit where it hurts.Man, I wouldn't want to hurt Ceroba like that.Should I consider this a sequel to that other Ceroba/Anon green?I'm certainly seeing a bit of myself in this like I did that one, intentional or not.Must be the mention of "paths".
>>737275843>When I plucked... Kanaclover... from the chaos of Undertale Yellow *breathes* I acted in the face of certain... objections that its a forced ship and of no use to anyone.>...>I have learned to ignore such... naysayers, when quelling them (hah) is out of the question...
>>737276748->Anon stood over her furious, the woman he loved. Of all people the woman he loved did this to him. For his own good? He clenched his fists, and stormed to his car in silence. He could hear Ceroba’s steps as she ran into the house, fighting to keep her crying under control. His entire being hurt, he turned the key, spurring the engine to life, but sat fuming as the radio crackled. >“FUCK.” He vented his fury slamming his fist into the dash board. He knew she cared, he knew how she worried, but this… this was too far. Didn’t she know? Didn’t she understand? His head fell into his hands as he slowly came to terms. He was still mad, but she was his wife. Would he have been happier if she just rolled over and watched him work into the grave? They’d never really talked about this before, and as the adrenaline left him he was left with two thoughts. His entire being really did ache, and he’d made her cry. A part of his mind said that she made herself cry, but he was even more furious at that part of himself. He knew he could be stubborn, and he knew about her past.>she'd crossed a line but did she even know it was a line to cross? Fuck, he made her cry.>He groaned as he shut the car off again and marched back into the house. Yeah, they should probably talk about this.
>>737276987don't worry anon, it wasn't overbut yes, it's in the same vein as that Anon and roba, I hope it doesn't come across as an attack, but I was thinking of how that stubbornness could affect her.>>737277032as an aside, I try to find songs that match the esoteric feeling the dark spirit is speaking into me.when it comes to Anon overworking himself, nothing hits quite like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFm6MDUhs2k for some reason.
>>737277019Yes, yes, I get it, I'm just asking you to not pester me in particular with such things.Though evidently my policy of simply abstaining from such things doesn't work around here.
>>737276101Quite the pessimist you are. Maybe Martlet still meets him because she still lives in Snowdin. Hell maybe Ceroba is waiting there instead because she knows Clover is gonna come through there.
>>737276326>Free will is (arguably) an illusionI've yet to see a good argument for that. Like molecular determinism is simply wrong because the universe on the subatomic level is truly random. So nothing is pre-determined.
>>737277147>but yes, it's in the same vein as that Anon and roba, I hope it doesn't come across as an attack, but I was thinking of how that stubbornness could affect her.Don't worry, I don't feel attacked. Especially since I basically asked for this.I do sometimes wonder how I would convey that ideology of mine to her, without sounding like I've gone completely off the deep end.Then again, with so much of my own personal beliefs being influenced by an FPS game from over 20 years ago, perhaps I actually have gone off the deep end.Still, whatever keeps me on the path.As for stubbornness, while I could see some sort of similar situation bringing me into conflict with Ceroba like that, I think I would be much quicker to try and tend to her and help her feel better, while fittingly still ignoring my own damage.
>>737277153Come on, anon, you can't take a joke? Its fine if you dislike Kanaclover dude
>>737276787I like the idea of a chujin intervention. it just seems like something that could be interesting. Could be difficult because chujin at the time feels like he's the only one that really cares about the pressing matters. Showing him that other people do indeed give a shit and value what he's accomplished may help?>I mainly remember it because I wrote itIt's really good. I think back on it sometimes when I think "I'm not hard enough of characters, I need to push them a bit harder before they see the light. sometimes being called greenanon throws me off because there's a mountain of history worth of other great greens that existed before I even started trying to make them. I'd love to see if you are up for writing or drawing again sometime. >>737277153Anon, just not responding to such posts is the best policy isn't it? It caught me off guard when you replied like that to one of my posts, but I just dropped it because to each their own and you're welcome to not like things. God knows there are things that I'm not into. Plus you open yourself up to people that will respond intentionally to get your goat that way. Focus on the other stuff.
>>737277341Molecular randomness, does not have anything to do with the human decision making machine at a higher level, and lack of free will, in the face of subatomic matter being random, does not mean things are pre-determined.
>>737275023I would, but I am a humble modelfag
>>737277341NTA, but I guess you could argue about your genetic memory and whatever environnement you are influencing your personality, thought patterns and cogitive distortions.Neuroscience does yield results.
>>737277230>Quite the pessimist you are.Doesn't have to be a bad thing, just a different thing.That's the nature of time-manipulation, you change things, not necessarily for the better or for the worst, but you change things nonetheless.>Maybe Martlet still meets him because she still lives in Snowdin.Perhaps, but with her not being a guard in this timeline, she'd be even less equipped to try and escort Clover through the underground, and she already didn't do a great job of that as it is.>Hell maybe Ceroba is waiting there instead because she knows Clover is gonna come through there.She could try, but as I talked about in another post earlier, her not knowing the exact date Clover arrived in the underground would make things difficult. She only might know when Clover arrived in the Wild East, but she had no idea Clover was even in the underground until she laid eyes on them, so it's not like she'd necessarily know where exactly Clover would be at any given time if she tried to intercept them.
is ceroba or martlet the antagonist in dusttale yellow?
>>737277373>I think I would be much quicker to try and tend to her and help her feel better, while fittingly still ignoring my own damage.I think that the time before Anon went inside was very brief, but he was just clouded by a short moment of genuinely being upset himself because this is important to him.I imagine Roba is (try not to cry, cry a lot) over what just happened because of mixed feelings between "I let my last husband die and now I'm gonna fail to keep this one alive too" and "I betrayed his trust, he hates me now" which is probably not a dark place roba goes to easily, but it was dramatic how things played out.I think a conversation between the two would ensue about trust, but also about this being a two way road and that anon may have to admit that it's his fault she's this scared for his health in the first place. a husbands duty to his wife and all that doesn't involve ignoring her fears maybe? I don't know. Anon would probably sit down and explain in plain language how much it hurt him that she tried to force her will on him, she would sob, apologize, and probably try to keep her feelings locked away for a moment out of guilt for what just happened, and Anon could then relinquish "but at the same time, I haven't been fair to you, have it?"
>>737277395Gimme some reqs right now, I'll write em. I need to be more productive, I've been doing fuck all for the past few months.
>>737277395>Anon, just not responding to such posts is the best policy isn't it?Ugh, yes, probably, but it still gets annoying past a certain point.>It caught me off guard when you replied like that to one of my posts, but I just dropped it because to each their own and you're welcome to not like things.When was that?In this thread?
>>737277673NTA, but which writer anon are you?
>>737277653Starlo.
>>737277692>>737275920>>737275972You didn't do anything wrong, it just surprised me. You've got every right to like and dislike things, and we're generally pretty reasonable about letting people like and dislike what they like in these threads (when it's not obvious shitposting.
>>737277490Ok what do you mean by people not having free will then? Free will is just the term for the decision making ability of the complex machine we call a human. You do what you want to do and you decide what you want, consciously or unconsciously that's still all you. The only way you don't have free will is if something that isn't you is making decisions for you.
>>737277673Martlet working in tandem with Wiki for a rescue on the mountainside. Maybe someone went hiking before bad weather and they need to team up and race against the clock?
>>737277509Make a Sadie model then, maybe a low poly one like you'd see in Morgan's Skate Club.
>>737277763Oh, that.Having been burned before by not establishing clear and direct "I do not wish to engage with this" signs, I try and make it clear what my stance is on those sorts of things when provoked. Otherwise I typically remain silent on the matter and keep my grumbling to myself so as not to get in the way of anyone else's fun.When directly replied to about it, that's when I start losing my patience.
>>737277536But those things are still part of you. Sure circumstance shapes who you are, but then you decide how you feel and what you do.
>>737277673If you are who I think you are, I'd like to see a green about the sorts of pranks Reynault might pull on April Fool's towards an anon, if you're willing.
>>737277663I could see myself being just a bit like that, yeah.I think if it was fully me in that situation, I'd probably acquiesce to her to a certain extent. I don't know what I would do exactly, but I'd certainly ask her what she would want me to do, and see how I could go about doing that.Most of how I picture doing right by other people usually incorporates some aspect of selflessness or self-destruction, so I can imagine it being hard to reconcile that, but I could set it aside for her after some internal deliberation.But you know how it is, machines and all.
>>737277395>g. Could be difficult because chujin at the time feels like he's the only one that really cares about the pressing mattersI'm sure Martlet willing to fight and die for the monster race has to mean something, and Ceroba telling this harrowing story of how she killed their daughter trying to fulfill his last wish in the future, and then backing it up with knowledge of his research that she absolutely should not know would be pretty convincing that both of them clearly care. And ultimately, his motivation for his death spiral was defending his family specifically.>. I think back on it sometimes when I think "I'm not hard enough of characters, I need to push them a bit harder before they see the lightSometimes I think I go to hard on them, but I do think that was fair since I did advertise it as a rather disturbing horror story, and it was just a dream, and I followed my personal rule of making sure the character isn't being unjustly punished. That was all her own guilt at her own actions eating away at her.I'm sure if we had an in depth discussion on the subject we'd have disagreements over what line if any should be drawn on how far is too far to push a character, and where that line should be drawn based on what circumstances.
>>737277790we are a machine that places weights and values to concepts and ideas, and we make decisions based on those, which are much more "macro" concepts than the finer subatomic randomness. those weights and values are determined by multiple factors, some genetic, most learned.When we are faced with a decision, we have the appearance that we could have gone either way, but that is just the computer processing the weights and values to reach its final result. once we have made that decision, that too gets added to the countless weights and values, which means that the next time we are faced with the same decision, we could instead choose differently as there are new circustances (life experience + 1 variable + "modifier" for time since decision") Obviously we dont' have a data output that looks like what I put in parenthesis and thats just for the sake of making the point. The cosmic randomness is fundamentally smaller than our decision making engine, but when combined with the sum total of reality, it's big enough that the future itself is not predetermined because we do not know the exact nature value angle magnitue of the next prompt for decision making that will cross our paths.Now I used a lot of jabberblabber in how I described that, but there are extensive studies on the matter, and while we don't know everything, our studies have produced usable data in regards to human behavior and psychology. We are decision making machines, the decisions are still our own, but they are also a result of a myriad circumstances. By better understanding what inputs cause these variety of outputs, we can gradually correct the machine. In the case of children its easier due to the plasticity of the brain, many adults are too set in their ways.This is why the executioners axe should always be sharp. We can't remove punishment from the system, but may the blade grant mercy to this sinner. "there but for the grace of god".
>>737277673Delta Quetzali hunting the elusive "park wendigo" (Wiki) cryptid
>>737277901Like I said, you didn't do anything wrong, and the point I was making is I dropped it after that. I tend to treat discussions here as "completely anonymous" until I know beyond a doubt the person I'm replying to is "this anon", so I was just "oh woah ok" and left it be. go in peace anon. We each have our autisms, and you have done your part in respecting the autisms of others.
>>737277673That one "sudden complete truce during the human/monster war" idea, from the perspective of the various members of the Puzzle Corps.
>>737277564>Doesn't have to be a bad thing, just a different thingwell you jumping to nuclear war as an example made it sound pretty pessimistic. >Perhaps, but with her not being a guard in this timeline, she'd be even less equipped to try and escort Clover through the underground, and she already didn't do a great job of that as it is.Maybe she gives Ceroba a call and they do it together, hell maybe she even ropes Starlo into it, first explaining to him how serious this is, and how much he should take this seriously instead trying to treat it like a game.
>>737278283Well, I seem to be the only anon here with the sort of disdain I have towards that ship, so I guess it's a pretty obvious tell at this point.
>>737277734I was the one that wrote all those Shu greens and that green of Roba having a nightmare about Chujin. Also the one that wrote Puzzle Corps stories.
>>737278175>Sometimes I think I go to hard on them, but I do think that was fair since I did advertise it as a rather disturbing horror story, and it was just a dream, and I followed my personal rule of making sure the character isn't being unjustly punished. That was all her own guilt at her own actions eating away at her. again to be clear anon, I cherish that green. it's really good. I think characters need to be pushed sometimes, but it's easy to get attached and to not want to make them hurt. I make myself cry when writing like a blubbering idiot, and I have a hard time crying in normal life situations.For me my biggest rule with writing is that I want there to be some chance of victory to eventually grasp. When running tabletop games, players find it really really satisfying if they feel like they clawed their way to happiness against nigh impossible odds, and I want the characters to in some way "feel" like that. "the fire burning against the dark, the spark in the void, the jojo character with just one last crazy plan".
>>737277941>nature vs nurtureM'yes, there is probably a balance somewhere, but you can still predict with relative accuracy how someone will turn out based on certain stimuli.At the end of the day, most of your decisions come from your subconscious processes, which are influenced from factors you can't always know.
>>737278323>well you jumping to nuclear war as an example made it sound pretty pessimistic. Look, messing with history and creating PODs doesn't usually create very happy timelines, it was the first example that came to mind.If I had to really reach, I guess a more optimistic example would be...Voyage?Sort of?I guess it depends on how you feel about space exploration, really.>Maybe she gives Ceroba a call and they do it together, hell maybe she even ropes Starlo into it, first explaining to him how serious this is, and how much he should take this seriously instead trying to treat it like a game.Mmmmaybe, but that still feels like it could go really sideways if they don't nail it.I mean, if Flowey's still in the picture, I could pretty easily see him convincing Clover that these monsters that just popped up out of nowhere and are trying to convince him to come with them are just out for their soul, potentially making Clover distrust all of them in one fell swoop.Maybe things could go well, maybe they wouldn't, but I don't know how hard I'd bet on Ceroba to get things right on her first try, especially since the original premise isn't giving *her* any time powers, just giving her a one-time do over.
>>737278208That doesn't really disprove free will. Sure people make decisions because of the stimulus from their environments, but they still make the decisions. You're not taking away people's free will, you're just trying to get them to want something else, which is called convincing someone. By your logic, presenting a good argument is the same as mind control because it changed someone's mind.
>>737278402I'll try to bear that one in mind, but I think I've said it before, there's all kinds of people out there in the world. as much as you've said that you have opposite opinions on everything from other people, I've enjoyed almost every single conversation with who has been revealed to be you in the last 2 months, so on the flipside, I don't assume that every person that dislikes a given thing can only be one person. it takes all kinds of people to make up the world.>>737278589This energy this artists cole gives off, is a life goal of some sort. I don't know how to describe it but he's great.
>>737278424Alright, good to know I've got my head on straight.
>>737276326Exactly, explaining something is very different from excusing. I hate when bad actions are excused. Someone being poor can explain being a thief but it does not excuse it. Accepting that you have done something is wrong is the first step to improvement. I hated how Susie was handled, and hopefully Melody will be done better, after all DRYanon doesn't have lesbiansmus like Tobias Foxington does.>free will is an illusionOh no not this again. All conscious actions are yours. You can't control your heart beating or you breathing, but you can control what you do. Just because you going to a store because you felt hungry is pre-determined, it's still (You)r action, and not """"environment's""""", """"upbringing's"""" or anybody else's for that matter
>>737278642>By your logic, presenting a good argument is the same as mind control because it changed someone's mind.you are altering the stimuli, which is simply having their already existing weights and values reprocess the information, with new inputs.two computers communicating.Look I'll say, I don't have an issue with other people believing in free will, but there's a significant amount of research that backs up the kinds of things I'm saying, and we've found a shocking amount of (not) randomness in human responses on a certain hierarchy. There's probably also studies that support how you are feeling on this matter, but what I'm saying is not unfounded hoopla. We use these studies to inform the fact that children notably react very very similarly repeatedly to the same kinds of stimuli as their brains are still developing, which has led us to methods that are effective at helping them recover from those kinds of trauma at young enough ages.>>737278780>but you can control what you do. Just because you going to a store because you felt hungry is pre-determined, it's still (You)r action, and not """"environment's""""", """"upbringing's"""" or anybody else's for that matterThere is a significant amount of data supporting the idea that a large amount of decision making is made by the pre-conscious mind.We're getting a bit off topic but I agree that this does not excuse bad behavior, it should just help us understand how to "calculate".
>>737278514but that's still you making all those decisions. Your will isn't being slaved to someone else, its still your will. Even your subconscious mind and the things you don't know about yourself are still you. To lack free will, your will would need to be completely controlled by a single outside force. Otherwise its simply your mind taking in stimuli and acting accordingly. That's like saying an autonomous self driving vehicle isn't autonomous because it reacts to other vehicles on the road. It very obviously is autonomous, that's just how autonomy works. The same way free will is just as much reactive as it is proactive. What matters here is that computations of your brain are done in your brain, rather than just being taken in wholesale from somewhere else. Until we invent sufficiently capable brain computer interfaces, even the dumbest drooling retard or the most subservient bootlicker has free will. They just decide of their own free will to serve others.
>>737278668>as much as you've said that you have opposite opinions on everything from other peopleI think that is still true for the most part honestly.If there was some kind of list of opinions that are generally considered to be the consensus of these threads, I probably would vehemently disagree with most of them, easily.Based on how many thread-tanking arguments I've basically been directly responsible for, I could practically be the threads' antagonist past a certain point.>I've enjoyed almost every single conversation with who has been revealed to be you in the last 2 monthsThis is greatly surprising to me, but I also don't remember what the last proper argument I've gotten into was, so maybe I've gone soft.Hm.Nevertheless, I suppose it is what it is.
>>737279026>but I also don't remember what the last proper argument I've gotten into waswere you by any chance in that argument about the evil guy failing to be evil?
>>737279183Oh, yeah, that.That was much less heated than some others, so I guess I didn't register it as a major argument.
>>737279239consider that even still it was the most "major" argument in a while. I still had a good time in the discussion overall even if maybe some frustration came up in total.But for the most part we've been hitting bump limit threads full of nothing but pure non argument discussion, even when there are disagreements.
>>737278912People's reactions being predictable doesn't make those reactions not their will. For example I punched you in the face, you'd probably get upset. Most people probably would. You were free to not get upset, but you chose to because that's the obvious choice.>two computers communicating.Ok, but those are still two computers operating independently with no direct control over each other. One might take in the data and process it, but its processing it according to its own internal programming, not the internal programming of that other computer or the external programming of a network of computers.Like I said, until we invent BCIs or psychic mind control, the best you can manage is convincing people. And though predictable their reactions may be, that is not mind control.
Excuse me, I've got something important to announcePunk Roba.
>>737278912>but I agree that this does not excuse bad behavior, it should just help us understand how to "calculate".Thank you for your understanding. It's weird to have this argument on this website of all places though.
>>737279398Nice midriff.
>>737278507I usually don't like to make myself cry, nor to scare the hell out of myself. When I wrote that Roba green for instance, I was actually having a good time seeing just how far I could push things following this horrible train of thought. I think the only exception is the kind of sadness I view as noble, which I would place separately from just misery, which is usually derived from making characters suffer.As an example, Wiki. I make her a rather sorrowful character, and I feel her pain, but I don't feel miserable feeling it.I guess its a bit hard to define. I will agree about hardship making victory sweeter though, with a lot of caveats. I do believe that its possible to lose so much your victory becomes a loss. The narrative equivalent of a Pyrrhic victory.
>>737279372>Most people probably would. You were free to not get upset, but you chose to because that's the obvious choice.You believe that you had the choice to not get upset but in truth if you got upset or not, that was the choice you were going to make all along in that specific instance of that specific input.This isn't really on topic at this point so I'm dropping it. There are peer reviewed papers that support both of our view points, and even a unique middle ground argument that has surfaced in I think the last few years that suggests varying levels of free will for different types of decision making. >>737279487I've had more reasonable arguments about this topic on /v/ than I have anywhere else on the internet. including /sci/ since /sci/ was filled with IQ shitposting/obsessing the last time I bothered with that board. It's almost as bad as /fit/ when it comes to pseudoscience funnily enough. Or again, was. been a long time
>>737279398now draw her french kissing punk Chujin
>>737279339Perhaps, perhaps.Maybe we'll have some more noteworthy discussions in the future.You know, I'd like to draw something that would be the center of a discussion, just once, to reach that sort of level, but I think the nature of what I usually draw prohibits that from ever really happening.Oh well.
>>737279398is that patecko's art?
>>737278589i originally wanted axis to say [human] but ive done enough of my hero cole being on the receiving end of racism for while
>>737279634>You believe that you had the choice to not get upset but in truth if you got upset or not, that was the choice you were going to make all along in that specific instance of that specific input.Yeah? Because that's what *I* want. You knowing it in advance doesn't make it any less my decision. Hell even you knowing it in advance, and punching me specifically to make me mad doesn't make it any less my decision. What makes it my decision is me doing it. No amount of outside factors or influences would change that.You can cite an infinite amount of statistics, this is an issue definition, not numbers. It could be 100% of people reacting the exact same way 100% of the time, it would still be their decision.
>>737279626>I usually don't like to make myself cry, nor to scare the hell out of myself. When I wrote that Roba green for instance, I was actually having a good time seeing just how far I could push things following this horrible train of thought. I think the only exception is the kind of sadness I view as noble, which I would place separately from just misery, which is usually derived from making characters suffer.that's understandable, and while the word cathartic is memed on for obvious reasons, it fits here probably.For me, I spend a long time shutting out emotions autistically to "do what I needed to do" so now, inflicting myself with these things helps me feel a bit more human. But again yes very important for there to be an eventual light or purpose to it all.>As an example, Wiki. I make her a rather sorrowful character, and I feel her pain, but I don't feel miserable feeling it.Wikis pain, and that thing earlier about her seeing where forests were cut down, genuinely made me want to scream into the air in agony, but in this case it's one of those pains where it reminds me of what it means to be human in an autistic way. It hurts because I understand a fragment of her pain, and by understanding that fragment, I can keep myself on the path, I can work to be a better person by remembering who and what I am.>I do believe that its possible to lose so much your victory becomes a loss. The narrative equivalent of a Pyrrhic victory.that's true, and I feel some of the characters in yellow are in that miserable of a position, so I like to imagine what it takes for them to still somehow despite all of that pain, earn back true happiness. Martlet or cerobas tears, what does it take for those tears to have meaning again. The suffering of the kind of people that I would want to fight alongside to help them earn their happiness. can they become that person? can I become that person?
>>737279970I'll allow you the last word on the matter anon. As I said, I'm dropping the matter.
>>737279754MKTH>>737279689I lack the Dark and Terrifying drawing power that is granted to certain fujoshi to do that.
>>737279634>>737280134>This isn't really on topic at this point so I'm dropping it.Oh fuck you, you bring up this shit that you know is inflammatory and that people are going to argue with you over, then duck out because its off topic the instant people argue with you over it.Fine, it is off topic and I won't discuss it further, but fuck you for bringing it up in the first place.
>>737277653I have heard next to nothing about a dusttale yellow other than "it exists unfortunately". I assume it was made in the obligatory sense of "well I mean it's an undertale so it needs a dusttale!". I imagine it's just as dumb as normal dusttale, if not worse since Clover doesn't have control of the timeline himself.
>>737278629Clover seemed pretty eager to trust them the last time, even with Flowey trying to make him hate monsters.
idea: dusttale but it ends early because clover ends up choking
>>737280508Yeah, but that's because they actually had time (even if very brief time) to know them before setting off with them.If they all just popped out from behind a bush and said "Hey we know who you are and why you're here even though you don't know anything about us anyway please come with us now just trust us!", I don't think it'd be the hardest thing in the world for Clover to think that maybe they're untrustworthy.
>>737273228>Genuinely the best answer is to just not reply.Good point, since it would do more harm than good if I make any kind of response.>>737273358>If they play the actual furry porn game for the gameplay despite not being gay furries, then I think they won't mind some game taking inspiration from it. While you do have a point, I feel like the percentage of these people is very small. I mean, what about the people who are not into these into kind of thing? Wouldn't they avoid the game because it got influence from something they deem disgusting?I'm probably overthinking it>I don't know who that isThat's the creator of OneshotShe regularly makes some fanarts of other games like pic related, which is pretty uncommon for a successful gamedev like her. >Its not that hard. I have three different online personas, and a lot of throwaway accounts. I've even posted art to multiple different ones.I feel like the reason why people haven't figured our your alts is because you don't have an obsessive person who will scrap the whole internet to figure who you are. It happened with PirateSoftware. Yes I know this only can happen if you majorly fuck up something somehow>Sure they may know you do freak shit on your alt, but they never think about it because they aren't following your alt. Uhhh... I'm not going to make anything NSFW, so I don't think I'm going to need an alt>For example, do you know how many people are fans of Joji, but don't know about Filthy Frank? Lots.I was pretty surprised nabout that, since I assumed any person got into Joji through Filthy Frank. I guess people can really be that ignorant.I do want to apologize if it feels like we're going in circles. The point I'm trying to make is that I'm afraid of people being judgemental against me for admitting my influences It seems the best solution is to simply stay quiet. It worked for Toby, for the most part.Man I should really stop replying late
>>737280394>Oh fuck you, you bring up this shit that you know is inflammatoryI thought the discussion was pretty level headed even though we clearly disagree. I thought calling it off was the right thing to do because the last xyz posts about it have nothing to do with the context it was originally brought up in that was fangame related.I am genuinely sorry and didn't mean to do that to you, that's on me. I wasn't meaning to dip out to avoid the flack, but more because I didn't want to burn posts when we had drifted off topic. This is honestly my fault here.
>>737280567>dying to zartlet's thighsI know a few anons would consider that worth it.
>>737280006>For me, I spend a long time shutting out emotions autistically to "do what I needed to do" so now, inflicting myself with these things helps me feel a bit more humanI like to focus on the emotions, but its more of a detached "how would they feel" vs making myself sad. I can see a character sad and play through their emotions without making myself genuinely sad.>genuinely made me want to scream into the air in agony,Wiki's pain is something I've felt myself. Sadness over the world falling apart and everything going away. This sadness I view as kind of a noble sorrow, its something good to be sad over, so I don't feel as bad for feeling it. Sometimes I find myself dwelling on that feeling. I view Wiki as sort of the ultimate embodiment of that feeling, and as such I view her as a very noble but also very tragic creature.
>>737280669That's fine. You slapped me in the face with a metaphorical glove to call me to a verbal duel, then jumped back and said no fighting right at the last second. So I told you to go fuck yourself.I think that makes us even. I hold no more ill will towards you.
>>737280724genoclozartlet is the true endgame ship
>>737280916If it's any consolation, I feel the weight of my sins properly, and in another context would have loved to engage in the duel on this very topic. Now then.>>737280567What the fuck would a dusttale yellow even be about. What level of bastardization are we talking about here?
>>737280931I don't think Geno Clover can conceptualize lewdness anymore. If he can, it's just a sin that makes you GUILTY and worthy of dying.
>>737281105clover actually ends up choking on the dust that fills the air and falls over on a save point shattering it and flowey crashes out, obviously.
>>737281176early game geno clover>I will bring those who did or would have killed a human to justice, and let the rest go. I am the lawlate game>parking violation, that calls for death>selling a salad without a permit, death>jaywalking? believe it or not, death.
How high can you get Kanako's confidence stat?
Would Dusttale Naranja just be the UTN equivalent of the Goku Black arc?
>>737280662>, I feel like the percentage of these people is very small. IDude I have seen so much of this out in the wild that is just people being blissfully ignorant, more than I have of people actually playing the game one handed as intended. I've seen puro at kid's birthday parties because they knew him from roblox.>Wouldn't they avoid the game because it got influence from something they deem disgusting?>I'm probably overthinking itTo a certain extent horror is meant to be off putting, its supposed to disturb people, and that's why a lot of horror draws from fetishism. Look at Hellraiser, its version of hell is literally the universe's most extreme BDSM club. Or look at Alien, they hired a sexually deviant pervert to design the most disturbing rape monster he could think of. You're fine.>She regularly makes some fanarts of other games like pic related, which is pretty uncommon for a successful gamedev like her. I don't think it'd stop you. Look at Omocat, she's an outed shotacon who posts about shota on main and she's fine. >It happened with PirateSoftwareBecause he's a supremely unlikable person that gets into bitch fights on the internet all the time. If you're not an asshole then even if people do find your alts and someone tries to stir up shit over it, they'll be the ones making an ass of themselves.>I was pretty surprised nabout that, since I assumed any person got into Joji through Filthy Frank. I guess people can really be that ignorant.Most of his fans are ignorant kids and stans these days, they've never heard of his older work and hated it when they found out. Of course that didn't hurt his career any because its not like it was a secret. Hell he even still does stuff like that, he just doesn't act in the videos. Those Dracula Flow videos were all him.> The point I'm trying to make is that I'm afraid of people being judgemental against me for admitting my influences Toby just owns his weirdness. Everyone knows what he's about.
>>737281259infinite ammo does a lot to a man
>>737281368Ah yes, add infinite ammo to metal gear and suddenly I become a different kind of player.
>>737281320Dusttale Naranja is just normal Naranja
>>737281320Dusttale Naranja is UTN AF either that or Val turning into the meme version of Goku
>>737281259it's like he's an outlaw or something
>>737281562always bet on genoclover outlaw
>>737257979Yeah, I've been doing a decent bit of Fallout stuff over the last year or so. My House/Big MT playthrough New Vegas Courier is a longer-term thing I write a few words for every now and then when I want to kill some time. A lot of it is not coherent timeline-wise, I just write bits and pieces of whatever I feel like writing, but it starts right at the moment Lanius drops dead and covers the next few decades. I've really come to like my Courier while playing and wanted to keep that story going a little longer.I'm also doing some Fallout 4 stuff with my Sole Survivor, it started with little things and dialogues I wish the game would've had and some Minutemen post-game stuff, but I'm thinking about doing a larger-scale rewrite of the plot, especially the second half, and adding some more meat to the major and some minor factions, basically everyone who isn't the BoS.I wish I could draw honestly.
>>737281628>I wish I could draw honestly.me to anon, but any time I sit down to do things, I just want to write so I never develop the skills.>my house/big MTas in myhouse.wad?
>>737281364>I've seen puro at kid's birthday parties because they knew him from roblox.Nta anon, but I've seen that and to this day I think it's an horrifying image
>>737281628it's not worth it all I do is hate what I draw
>>737281518And there it is, the first wild usage of it.I really need to make the non-drawover version of that soon.
>>737281702Seein Val that muscular is funny, now I'm imagine Naranja being exactly the same, with the only difference being that Val is a grown ass man but still acts like a stupid teen living his shonen fantasies, he just one shots most monsters and he's too stupid to notice the damage he's making to the Underground
>>737281603Imagine if it actually was that though. Genoclover just invading another to go through it and corrupt people like judge holden.
>>737281671its not just an image, its a video
>>737281990I meant image as in mental image, I know there's a video
>>737281951Geno Clover's sense of justice got wrapped so badly he now believes "might makes right" is the truest form of justice
>>737281628drawing isn't that hard to pick up, even if it is hard to master
>>737281951>Awwww, Cole, you didn't tell me you had a little brothe->*BZZZOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!*
>>737281951>Kanako is an amalgamate and thus cannot be killed>her existence led to Integrity being killed if you squint enough>Genoclover jumps to an universe where she's "normal">litter the world with dark fountains like bread crumbs to attract herIt's a fun scenario to imagine.
>>737282129What's this referencing specifically?
>>737282187nothing just thought it would be a goofy scenario
>>737282361Oh wait, is that supposed to be Clover jaundice beaming Kanako?
>>737282570everything in clover's general direction yes
>>737282974There's something off-putting about this roba.
>>737283302I considered not posting it because it's a little... different? But I think the artist had innocent intentions.
>>737283341Even if this artist is a mawfag (he is, look at that maw) I'm inclined to agree. Its just that he drew her really weird. First of all the shape of her face aside from being off model is very uncanny, something about it is just wrong. Second, her eyes are weird. Third her neck is too long. And fourth overly detailed maw.
>>737283467I think the artist MAY be an actual woman, but she draws Jins that way too I think, so maybe a female mawfag. I could be wrong but thats my gut instinct.
Apparently beating toster with violnce gives Kanako 2 confidence in DRY. That's why I got the mines hangout on the first attempt that I played and didnt on the 100% one. And I only got it because I accidentally overdamaged Toster, wow...Remember kids, if you call your GF cringe, just beat up a guy and it will be all okay!
>>737283510based, showed toster whos boss fuck, I gotta replay to get that date. mind sharing what the confidence threshold is if you know it?
>>737283536I got it on 76, didn't on 74So it's probably 75But do atleast 76 to be safe
>>737283615Thanks anon. I know it was close to there at one point so I must have fucked up and dropped it.
>>737283497Is she Korean?
>>737283651What's your 'nako confidence by the way?
>>737283658Phillipino, They just give off a lot of fujoshi vibes, but my radar COULD be wrong.
>>737283678I don't think I can' go and check. I've saved the game after going home for the night (I shouldn't have but it was like 5 am and so I just did)
>>737283497Females can be mawfags too. Though they're usually more into biting while male mawfags are often into vore. (Personally I just like the look of maws as an exotic feature.) This difference does lead to them being drawn differently. That pic is more of a bitey mouth, like might go around someone's neck.
>>737283771the trick is if the uvula and creases on the inside of the mouth are visible/detailed, then its vore
>>737283690It just reminded me of some Korean furry art I've seen. Where are you finding Philipino UTY art?
>>737283771>>737283853this is advanced divining if I've ever seen it.
>>737283771>>737283853i am learning so much
Once deltarune is finished, the way it's launcher works means it's going to be incredible for fangames that can all share save files with the main game and eachother.
>>737283853I think its more to do with the size of the area. Wherever most of the physical area of the drawing is concentrated is the focus. Throat is vore, teeth gums and tip of tongue are bites.
>>737283878Any time I find a yellow artist that is still active, I follow their account. this is that MKTH person.They drew this Jin and it was an april fools about starlo as a dating sim protagonist, but that screams fujoshi to me on a few counts, including the style.
>>737283923Why would it? I don't think games can share saves with Deltarune as is.
>>737283771I've never really been into "maws" but biting can be kind of hot. I think I got that from vampire women
>>737283884>>737283885And people say 4chan is a waste of time.
>>737284076You are now imagining femDalv
>>737284000Was she the one that drew Chujin as a VN love interest with Roba?
>>737284107>female vampire with a lack of strong personality traits being her strongest personality traitWell, I might be into it. But it would be too weird for me to be into it if I knew it was dalv but girl.
>>737284142yes, same person I'm pretty sure if I'm thinking of the same image.
>>737284009The way deltarune works, each chapter is it's own separate "Game" with it's own savefiles. The chapter select menu/launcher handles passing these information between the different chapters, and can support up to 10 chapters, more than seems to be planned for the game, and even that limit can easily be removed. Different people working on different modded or wholly original chapters should be able to easily connect them by using the same systems that the base game does.
>>737283853what about cartoon black void throats
>>737281364>I've seen puro at kid's birthday parties because they knew him from roblox.Oh yeah, I do know what you're talking about >To a certain extent horror is meant to be off putting, its supposed to disturb people, and that's why a lot of horror draws from fetishism.>Look at Hellraiser, its version of hell is literally the universe's most extreme BDSM club. Or look at Alien, they hired a sexually deviant pervert to design the most disturbing rape monster he could think of. You're fine.That's actually a really good point. I didn't think of other popular horror IPs doing the same thing.Although the kind of horror I do want to do is entirely non sexual.>I don't think it'd stop you. Look at Omocat, she's an outed shotacon who posts about shota on main and she's fine. Not to mention she's still friends with Toby>If you're not an asshole then even if people do find your alts and someone tries to stir up shit over it, they'll be the ones making an ass of themselves.Really good point. I guess that can be avoided if I don't stir up any drama or act like a prick>Toby just owns his weirdness. Everyone knows what he's about.True trueAlthough part of my worries comes from if were my family were to find out what I've been doing online since they're really religious, even though I'm not going to make anything sexual. Furry stuff in general isn't something you can easily explain to boomer parents It does makes me wonder if there are people who are making odd things without the knowledge of, let's say, their wives. Seems like it's really challenging to hide
Alright, I call this one "Anon kills the mood">Ceroba drags Anon into the room a bit more ‘feisty’ than usual. She’s got that sly grin on her face and he already knows he’s in for a ride. She tells him to turn around and he can't help but smile as he does. The inner machinations of a foxes mind must be something to behold. She throws something over his head and from the texture he already knows it’s her robe. Hell he’s taken it off of her enough times to tell that much. Before Anon pulls it off his head she pushes him onto the bed, she really is feeling feisty today. He rolls over and moves to pull the robe from his eyes so that he can see, but she’s on him, her weight pinning the robe in place for a moment. Anon’s heart races but he keeps his cool, it’s just a silly robe, and she doesn’t know about that.>He goes to pull the robe a bit harder to get it out of the way so the two can enjoy themselves properly, when she starts talking dirty. It’s especially nice when she leans into his ear and whispers>“Tonight you’re mine, lover boy.”>Her voice is intense, as the passion hangs off every syllable. God he loves this woman. It would be even better if he could see! Anon goes one more time to pull the robe off his face when Ceroba speaks up again.>“Not so fast lover boy, I didn’t say you could peek just yet.”>She pressed a hand against his chest, and traced a finger across it. At first it felt like she was just being playful, but a sound as though glass sliding against glass sounded through the room and all in an instant Anon was frozen in place.>In an instant he was gone, lost to the darkness. The fear shot through his heart like a bullet as terror gripped his heart. He couldn’t hear, the world had grown so distant. He couldn’t breath, he was suffocating. He couldn’t see. Why couldn’t he see? Please… he just wanted to see again.
>>737284802>There was light, but nothing else. The world was beyond him for a time. Pressure, texture, rhythmic love running through his hair. His face was wet. Where was he? Who was th-“Ceroba?”-She’d had everything planned. Ceroba wanted to spice things up a little tonight, and she had a devious idea. Anon hadn’t shown any signs of growing tired of a fox’s love, but loved pulling new tricks on him, and the talisman was a wonderful idea that she couldn’t believe she hadn’t used sooner. She’d shoved Anon onto the bed and straddled him but she needed to act quickly. The silly man kept trying to pull the robe off his head, but she was in control tonight. She grinned deviously as she traced the talisman onto his chest. He wasn’t going anywhere until she was done with him. He went still as her magic took effect, and she leaned forward embracing him. A little old fashioned love before they got started. She laid there with him for a moment taking in his warmth, but before she leaned back again, she listened. Anon’s breathing was quick and shallow. Rapid but tentative. That was odd to her, the talisman doesn’t affect breathing or anything of the sort, and her robe wasn’t made from anything thick. She moved to the side and pulled the robe off, maybe it was less ‘breathable’ than she thought?”“Sorry love, was that a bit much? Don’t worry, you’re in good… Anon?”His eyes had glassed over, staring into nothing, but there was something strange set in his face. A pleading terror, like he was enduring something terrible. She Lifted anons head onto her lap, placing her paw against his face, “Anon, Anon are you ok?”
>>737284853>No response aside from tears from his unseeing eyes. Now she was panicking as she started running a claw through his hair, “Anon please, speak to me. I-I just wanted to do something different!” She couldn’t fathom what happened, should she call 911? Healing magic? Her thoughts raced through the options when a hand reached up and held her face.>“Ceroba?” His voice was weak as his eyes slowly swam into focus, “Oh thank god. I thought I’d never see you again. Goodness you're beautiful.” The smile he managed was fragile but genuine, his hand dropped to his side wearily as he mumbled, “Why are you crying love?”>Ceroba held him for a time as he gathered his senses. He mumbled occasionally nonsense about his true love Ceroba, and how nice it was that she was here, until realization finally began to sink in. He fell silent as shame sunk deep into his heart. Eventually, he muttered a quiet apology, but Ceroba ran her paw through his hair again as she spoke softly, reassuring. >“Don’t apologize love.” She paused for a moment hesitant as she continued, “do you… want to talk about it?”>Anon looked away for a moment before meeting her eyes with a sad smile, “I’m sorry Roba, you had to go and fall in love with a mess like me.”
>>737284891>She laughed gently as she scolded him, “Hey, no apologizing! You don’t see me apologizing for having to put up with me do you?”>Anon brought his hand to her paw on his face as his expression relaxed, “Because you’re perfect of course dear.”>Ceroba rolled her eyes as she took his hand in hers, “Perfect he says. Sounds like someone’s asking to eat corn chowder for a month straight.” >Anon feigned shock at her declaration, but the smile eased its way back on his face again. As the two laid in silence for a moment more. After a time, Anon drew a shuddering breath as he spoke again, “Maybe… maybe we could try it again some time. Maybe with a little more warning?” He was hesitant, but pushed forward, “I do, so love to be tricked by a fox after all.”>Ceroba's mischievous grin returned as she traced a finger across his chest, “Oh, is that so? Well don’t you worry lover boy, you’re in good hands then.”
I am thoroughly enjoying Axis in this game.
>>737284284So sorta like custom episodes in Doom. I don't think I've seen anyone do that though.
>>737284961Alright, I did 3 things with the Roba talisman, with varying levels of edginess.I think some anons would kill to have been in that anons position in the last one, but the brainworm of someone having a terrible reaction to the freezing got stuck in my head when the conversation came up I think a month ago?
>>737284448Then you go by size.
>>737285049he's great, lots of good lines for future use.
>>737284728>Although the kind of horror I do want to do is entirely non sexual.Well then you're just doing horror with furries, and every normie under 40 knows what a furry is and what they're about. So it wouldn't really be a shock to anyone. >I guess that can be avoided if I don't stir up any drama or act like a prickAlso if any cancel mobs come after you for whatever reason. Absolutely do not submit. That will only encourage more. >Furry stuff in general isn't something you can easily explain to boomer parents I can't really help you there since I don't know your family. Its possible for religious people to still be chill and for boomers to be understanding, but I don't know if your family is that way. If they're really ignorant boomers they'll probably be too tech illiterate to find out anyways. >It does makes me wonder if there are people who are making odd things without the knowledge of, let's say, their wivesIf you're a sexual deviant, chances are your wife is too. You don't really get to the point of marriage with someone unless they're ok with your weird traits.
>>737280821>I can see a character sad and play through their emotions without making myself genuinely sad.I get that, and a lot of the time it's like that, and it usually takes something special to get through to the true juicy center of affecting me, but Scrimblos do seem to shortcut their way to my heart in that regard.>Wiki's pain is something I've felt myself. Sadness over the world falling apart and everything going away. This sadness I view as kind of a noble sorrow, its something good to be sad over, so I don't feel as bad for feeling it. Sometimes I find myself dwelling on that feeling. I view Wiki as sort of the ultimate embodiment of that feeling, and as such I view her as a very noble but also very tragic creature.the line about "these are friends and it's ok to cry around friends" for her seeing places that aren't like what she left them as, feels like a very good representation of her.
>>737262360No, she listens to "Who Will Save the World." https://youtu.be/nKBIZcdvOSc>>737262914>>737263552I unironically have planned to write a fire elemental leader of a cartel in a dark fanfiction about Deltarune Yellow. Not Luzma though, I think too highly of her.
would you buy her items
>>737286026Dina is she bald
>>737286067*if
>>737286026I'd be competing in line with Dalv and Starlo who keep going through the line over and over again.
>>737286795marty...
>>737287049True.
>>737283615>>737283721How are you guys checking your Kanako confidence stat? Is it in the Guts stat in the dark world menu?
>>737287192pretty sure it's under kanakos stats in the dark world but I don't have a save that I can go look back on.
it's funny when I discovered the confidence stat I thought it was a joke stat because it was way higher than everything else
>>737285072Just saw this now, sorry for a late reply, but these were all pretty good.And that last one, god I wish that were me.
I feel robbed that in chapter 2 you can't hug martlet if there's not an opportunity to do so in a future chapter I will riot.
>>737266507Where does she keep her clothes when in snek form?>>737268814>would you admit that you got inspired by something that's NSFW or even borderline pornographic?Only if I hit it big and landed an interview. I do know that feeling however of wanting to hide interests from others' judgement.>>737284728>Although part of my worries comes from if were my family were to find out what I've been doing online since they're really religious, even though I'm not going to make anything sexual. Furry stuff in general isn't something you can easily explain to boomer parentsMake furry stuff with religious themes though still keep it secret just to be safe. You'll get funny reactions from furries too so it's a win-win.>>737285072Your greens are amazing as always anon! Married couples having a misunderstanding aren't common in fanfics and I like how you seized on a unique situation for that concept.
>>737287906I was kinda expecting more given her dialogue in chapter 1
but would you buy HER items?
>>737285072Out of curiosity, is the state anon's in in the last one inspired by anything in particular?
>>737287906I think a lot of people playing DRY are/were expecting there to be a lot more Martlet and Cole interactions, and were disappointed that there wasn't.Like I get the whole game is pretty much just a Kanako x Cole game, but like come on, neglecting Martlet in this way just feels forced, caused they don't want to delve deeper into her relationship with Cole.Aside from Kanako and Cole's relationship, his relationship with Martlet should also be a big focus, and not an afterthought.
>>737287863>>737288004Glad you liked them anons, and thank you for reading them. Imagining roba comforting while she runs her paws through your hair is very nice. Even if it was at the cost of whatever terrible plans she had in mind prior, and in an odd way, imagining the relationship getting stronger because of a sincere conflict issue or revelation is comforting.>>737288187A severe claustrophobia response combined with a sense of helplessness sending him into something akin to shock or extreme disassociation
>>737288429>>737287906>>737288082I have a lot planned for her in a later chapter, don't worry about it for now
>>737288429I don't think it's forced at all, it's clearly the driving force for the plot happening in the background. I just want to get to hug her again. Cole theoretically only has so many days left, I want him to get to hug her as often as possible. This is aside from my already strong desire to hug her personally.
>>737288461>Imagining roba comforting while she runs her paws through your hair is very nice.God, absolutely.I would give so much to be pet like that by her, oh my god.You don't see as much hmofa with the *human* being pet, huh?>Even if it was at the cost of whatever terrible plans she had in mind prior, and in an odd way, imagining the relationship getting stronger because of a sincere conflict issue or revelation is comforting.Also agree with this. I don't think I'd have as severe of a reaction to being suddenly immobilized like that anon had, but I can imagine that happening out of nowhere would be somewhat panic-inducing. >A severe claustrophobia response combined with a sense of helplessness sending him into something akin to shock or extreme disassociationHuh, I guess I could see that.I once read a Nine Sols fic where something like that happened, but it had a... different approach to it, so to speak.
>>737288476the plan? trusted
>>737288429 She is litteraly going to appear in the dark world
>>737288476look, I'll wait patiently, I have faith, but every chapter that goes by where we don't get to hug the bird, I'm going to say that we need to hug the bird. You can't stop me from wanting to hug the bird.
>>737288516Cole theoretically having only a few days left, would naturally mean he'd want to spend as much time as possible with the person who's essentially his mother.Like it's not just Cole hugging Martlet, like in his position her absence should be doing a number on his mentality, cause of the possibility he could be ripped away from her.
>>737285430>Also if any cancel mobs come after you for whatever reason. Absolutely do not submit. That will only encourage more. True, the best way to deal with them is to ignore them, unless the allegations are so severe you have to make a response>Its possible for religious people to still be chill and for boomers to be understanding, but I don't know if your family is that way. They're too old and unfamiliar with internet culture, so they don't understand what is a "furry" is. The most I'm going to tell them I'm making art and a game of talking cartoon animals>If you're a sexual deviant, chances are your wife is too. You don't really get to the point of marriage with someone unless they're ok with your weird traits.Well I'm no sexual deviant, so I don't know my chances Although, that does makes me wonder if I will ever have the balls to tell my significant other that I'm making furry art. It's nothing degenerate, but it's not something I can easily admit either >>737288004>Only if I hit it big and landed an interview. Right, I should answer about my inspirations only when I've been asked about them directly >I do know that feeling however of wanting to hide interests from others' judgement.That's nice to hear >Make furry stuff with religious themes though still keep it secret just to be safe. You'll get funny reactions from furries too so it's a win-win.I don't know about making something with religious themes since I want my work to have a universal appeal, but it's definitely going to feature traditional valuesWell, it's been really nice talking to you, anonsGlad to have this conversation with someone
>>737288429Suddenly these images of Martlet/Zenith and Cole is relevant again.https://files.catbox.moe/le8ckp.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/dlyvn5.png
>>737288721I'm sure he's not happy about it. He cares about a lot of people in drytown it seems. Doesn't change the fact that Martlet has no choice but to work, and is also fighting for the case at the same time. That one artist did the image of him being upset in the drive is pretty good on that topic, but coles got a lot going on.Theres also whatever promise cole made that the secret boss hints at he must retain the strength to endure I still wanna hug the bird.
>>737288751>True, the best way to deal with them is to ignore them, unless the allegations are so severe you have to make a responseIt's not about "severity", but about who cares about the scandal. You only need to respond to your base, and only in ways that will actually help.Actually, if you care about getting that kind of thing right at all, I recommend watching Armcha1r Expert's videos, It's almost all vtuber stuff, but it applies to all public relations stuff. I didn't realize how retarded most companies and e-celebs until I started watching him.
>>737288648>You don't see as much hmofa with the *human* being pet, huh?I honestly never thought about this from that angle but that's funny. >but I can imagine that happening out of nowhere would be somewhat panic-inducing.yeah I imagine that even if you weren't personally claustrophobic, that's a lot to take in all at once, roba may have been stacking the deck against herself here, so It would just be worse and worse the more you had a personal inclination to that fear.I like the idea of Roba and Anon in the future more carefully easing into that. I personally am not into loss of control, but maybe after an incident like this, working through that with someone you love and trust, would make it nice even still.>I once read a Nine Sols fic where something like that happened, strange how I have never considered the possibility of nine sols fics existing. It's so obvious but it existed in a complete mental blindspot.
>>737288821You know, something occurred to me when I first drew that image, and I just remembered it after staring at it for a sec.Clover/Cole's hat does the thing Mickey Mouse's ears do.And I've never seen anyone talk about that before to my knowledge.Anywho-
>>737288721Thank you. This is something I was talking about in previous threads when similar topics were discussed.Martlet shouldn't be so neglected when it Comes to her relevance and relationship with Cole in this setting, because of what's happening.Honestly it should have as much focus in being explored in the way Kanako and Cole relationship is being explored.
>>737288958it feels more like an important arc thats being saved for it's own dark world. its not the main attraction (kanacole) but it's definitely a big one that will be built up to. I am still happy I got some of my chujin autism in the latest chapter, but Martlet will have her chance.
>>737288950>Clover/Cole's hat does the thing Mickey Mouse's ears do.Anon, it's getting a bit hard to focus as my headache is returning. Maybe this is something obvious I should be remembering with it being mickey mouse and all, but what are you talking about.
>>737288958>>737288821>>737288721>>737288681alright, I will add something next patch, maybe. definitively by chapter 3
>>737288815I actually want to see the artist draw more stuff like this. It would be nice to see how he portrays Cole and Martlet's relationship more.
>>737289110Hey you don't have to change your plans just because i want to hug the bird. But I wouldn't be mad of course if bird.
>>737289110I honestly thought that we are going to have a Martlet dinner scene at the end of chapter 2. Marlete promised to come back earlier after all
>>737289237she shows up during the ketsukane dinner scene
>>737289237Anon... there is a Martlet dinner scene, she sits down and has a genuinely nice dinner with everyone, Cole included of course.
>>737289217You shouldn't be afraid to voice your opinions, often times they can help immensely. Staying quiet means someone won't be aware of stuff they can address to make something better.
>>737288948>I honestly never thought about this from that angle but that's funny. Maybe this is just a thing for me, but personally, having the top/back of my head pet feels really good. It kind of induces that same sensation that ASMR stuff does, it's strange. That's part of why I had Ceroba's hand on the anon's head in a drawing I did way back, it's just something I don't see as often as I'd like to.>yeah I imagine that even if you weren't personally claustrophobic, that's a lot to take in all at onceI'm not actively super claustrophobic, but I don't like being in confined spaces without being able to remove myself from them at my own leisure, so maybe the situation anon was in would trigger something similar for me.Ideally not though.>I personally am not into loss of control, but maybe after an incident like this, working through that with someone you love and trust, would make it nice even still.As someone who is ostensibly into loss of control, I think that's part of what makes it work, loving and trusting the person you're relinquishing control to. Trusting them to do whatever it is they're going to do to you, feeling safe in their presence knowing that they won't harm you.Anyway->strange how I have never considered the possibility of nine sols fics existing. It's so obvious but it existed in a complete mental blindspot.There aren't too many honestly, and I only found a few I liked.The one I'm referring to has Yi end up in a similarly dissociative state, but it's less panicked and more, tranquil, I guess.I actually have sort of found myself in the state he's in in that fic before, it's weird. Like a strange half-conscious state, I don't know how I'd describe it.You probably wouldn't like that fic for similar "agency" reasons, I myself have that problem with it, but meh.
>>737289262Ik, but that's not at her house though. Also I don't know about you or is it just me but her saying "nice grub" sounds awful and cringe and doesn't fit her
>>737289274fair, I just don't want to derail things and pester because of my single minded obsession with the bird.It's not like I'm giving high grade technical advice by screaming from the rooftops GOD PLEASE I WANT THE BIRD TO BE HAPPYbut still fair.
>>737289109You know how when Mickey Mouse rotates his head in most animations, his ears don't move accordingly?His ears are always lined up parallel to the viewer, at all times.Clover/Cole's hat does that.Seriously, look at their sprites.No matter which way they're facing, the hat's silhouette is exactly the same, the two peaks with the dip in the middle, no matter what.If it was a normal hat, there'd be at least one viewing angle where the hat's dip isn't visible, usually from the sides, but Clover/Cole's hat doesn't do that, it's like Mickey Mouse's ears.
>>737289330>Maybe this is just a thing for me, but personally, having the top/back of my head pet feels really good.I can assure you you aren't alone in that, it's just not a thing you'll find people revealing in casual face to face conversation. "bro so anyways my girl was scratching my head and"it's the kind of thing that's easier said in the comfort of general anonymity>I actually have sort of found myself in the state he's in in that fic before, it's weird. Like a strange half-conscious state, I don't know how I'd describe it.colloquially people usually call it "zen" even if they haven't personally been in that state before. >Trusting them to do whatever it is they're going to do to you, feeling safe in their presence knowing that they won't harm you.makes sense. it's not something I'd personally initiate, but if it wasn't being sprung on me like in the story, I suppose if it was someone I trusted and felt safe with ah such is life then I would be willing to, if it was in their desires. I know I have my own desires and feelings that I'd want my lover to be open to, but I'd definitely have to be eased into it over a long time. Probably not something I'd encounter with the bird. I don't see her being into that.
>>737289430I see now, I had never "noticed it" actively but now that you describe it, I'm aware.
>>737289342Is it really just me? It's super informal...
>>737289647I think Martlet is prone to speaking in an informal way despite her station (in yellow). She's generally a bit of a cross between ditzy and sporty, and there isn't any tension at the dinner so it's not really weird for her even if it's mildly crass.
If we're making requests for scenes to add in the future, I think BunBun having a tea party in the dark jail is funny. The idea of all these hardened criminals being forced to sit at a comically small table and drink tea out of fancy little cups like a bunch of little girls is hilarious. Even funnier would be if when BunBun is explaining how they work, Bearing ashamedly admits that he is already deeply familiar with the concept, because he belonged to a little girl in the light world who made him participate in many.
>Cole hadn't spoken since both of them had stepped into the car>Only a couple hours before did Martlet reveal she was going to spend most of that evening at the hometown festival at the city hall discussing her custody case with the mayor, leaving an extremely sour taste in the boy's mouth>Martlet glances over, her own expression turning bitter>"You know, you could try having a little more faith in me.">Cole simply continues scowling, too upset to respond his caretaker>"I get you think I'm wasting my time. But you need to understand how much I want to keep you in my life. I want to try everything I can before it's over.">No response from the boy>"...Look, Kanako's going to be there! You can spend the evening with her! It'll be a great for you and her to->"I don't want to spend time with Kanako right now!">Martlet's eyes shoot back over to Cole and he yells>"I've spent every other waking moment this week hanging out with her knowing I'll never see her again!">Cole matches Martlet's gaze, his scowl softening>"...I want to spend some time with you.">Martlet's eyes flick back to the road and Cole's face before she huffs, clenching the steering wheel and speeding down the highway
>>737289548>it's the kind of thing that's easier said in the comfort of general anonymityYep.Sure wish it was more common in art though.>colloquially people usually call it "zen" even if they haven't personally been in that state before. I'd say it's less like a zen state, and more like if you could somehow half-load consciousness.Like, one time when I was in that "state", I was awake for about an hour, staring at a singular light that was in my room, and only after being awake for an hour did I suddenly blink and realize that I was awake. It's not super common for me, it's just some weird thing that happens sometimes when I wake up.I differentiate this from a true "zen-state", because that's what I call it when I get insanely good at a game for like an hour without actually focusing on it.>makes sense. it's not something I'd personally initiate, but if it wasn't being sprung on me like in the story, I suppose if it was someone I trusted and felt safe with ah such is life then I would be willing to, if it was in their desires.Fair enough. I know I certainly have my share of characters I'd want to do that to, or have do that to me, but it's not for everyone.>Probably not something I'd encounter with the bird. I don't see her being into that.I did see one fic where Martlet was, indeed, into that.It was actually fairly tame, all "safe, sane, and consensual", and all that, but I'm not sure I buy her having a fully-fleshed out leather bondage room in her house somewhere.Also it was Starlo/Martlet, so that was somewhat strange along with the rest of that.
>>737289579I notice everything, and now you will never be able to un-notice this.Just like those 8 pixels in Sonic the Hedgehog (1991).
>>737289691>Yo chewed jean this larv do be bussing af fr
>>737289342what do you suggest to change it to?
>>737289791 saved poor kid. I have to assume that deep down he knows she's trying her best, but it's hard when you're going through that at a young age.
>>737289691She could've just said "chow". That would be both an informal casual name for food and the shortened name for corn chowder as well.
>>737289803>I'd say it's less like a zen state, and more like if you could somehow half-load consciousness.>Like, one time when I was in that "state", I was awake for about an hour, staring at a singular light that was in my room, and only after being awake for an hour did I suddenly blink and realize that I was awake. It's not super common for me, it's just some weird thing that happens sometimes when I wake up.>I differentiate this from a true "zen-state", because that's what I call it when I get insanely good at a game for like an hour without actually focusing on it.if you don't call that zen, then by all means, but everything in your explanation made me think "oh yeah, zen!", and then the one you use for the video game I call flow state. But either way if you don't want to use those terms for those specific things I dunno what else to call them. >I did see one fic where Martlet was, indeed, into that.that's gotta just be the author taking their favorite characters and favorite fetishes and just mashing the two together. I could buy that you never know what people you meet are secretly into but >having a fully-fleshed out leather bondage room in her house somewhere.suspension of disbelief only goes so far.
>>737289956>>737289995
>>737290186>But either way if you don't want to use those terms for those specific things I dunno what else to call them. Meh, to each their own.>suspension of disbelief only goes so far.It's possible.Martlet could secretly be a massive freak like that, you don't know.Plus, the idea of her being into that while also being the way she is is extremely funny.Clumsy royal guard by day, hardcore BDSM dominatrix by night.
>>737290290She's canonically into humiliation though...
>>737290326NTA but what????
>>737290290ah yes and heres where Martlet keeps the freak pit, the absolute zone of uncontrolled PASSION.the freak in question running the freak pit pic related.
>>737290369she's not "canonically into it" but people take that line in her pacifist/neutral fight where she tells you to insult her "crushing her confidence like a bug".Shes such a silly dweeb.
>>737290369She does ask you to degrade and hit her during her fight...
>>737290374That bird is into revealing leather outfits and whips.I don't make the rules, I just enforce them.
>>737290418>>737290424i see now
>>737290459>martlet having a fantasy of being a dominatrix, but when she actually tries to enact it, she can't be commanding enough and just makes herself upset for failing at her fantasyit's funny and dumb at the same time.
>>737290498>she pulls out a handbook in the middle of trying to dominate youYou'd let her dominate you, right?You wouldn't want to upset her, would you?
>>737290531>c-call me mistress>p-please?jesus, this girl is making a tall order of me right now.
>>737273928I found at least one, though I don't know if this is the one you were looking for.
>>737290569She WILL lightly tap you with a riding crop if you don't respect her as your mistress.Very lightly.And then apologize profusely afterwards.
>>737290418Martlet does canonically call Clover her child, and yet people still deny that.
>>737290625she does canonically call Clover her child and I love referencing "child of mine" but that's not the same as her being canonically into humiliation.
>>737290369She asks you to insult her when you try to spare her. Quoting her "Come on, dig into some deep aggression! Break down my self esteem into a pile of metaphorical rubble! Crush my mental health like a bug under your shoe!" All while smiling
>>737290619Fuuuuck, I'm not into this shit at all but I've got the image of martlet being upset for failing utterly and completely at this in my head.
>>737273928>>737290610
>do hard mode ONCE>now feels uneven in all playthrough where I don't have the Dark Shot>I keep wasting turns on strategic heals cuz I lost trust in save points>if only I had this edge, this bigger number>sealing cinematic just remind me I chose wrongI'm this close to doing another Pacifist file soley devoted to it.
>>737290668But Martlet isn't canonically into humiliation though. That's just people taking one thing she said in her fight way out of context.That feels more like she was reassuring Clover that he could say something mean to her at that moment and she wouldn't mind.
>>737290691I'm also not into most of what's typically associated with BDSM, but the idea of Martlet being into it, and also really bad at it is just hilarious.What hurts more, the sting of a riding crop, or the idea of letting her down?
>>737290728and now I have two of these images>kanakos smilecute>Clover just deadpan staring at her the whole time when he does have a smile spriteHe's petrified with fear.
>>737290569Royal Guard Roleplay in bed with Martlet"Your uhm, your under arrest, human! How do you like this, huh?! Oh! Oh are you okay? If Im going too far j-just... what? I know im supposed to be rough I just really dont wanna hurt you. Haha... yeah, um... back to it? Okay. Well uh, y-you need to lay down. n-now-I mean NOW! Um... okay, maybe we could switch places? This is really awkward, I hate killing the mood like this. Your better at leading. Can I take the armor off too? I know you like it when im in uniform but it gets really hot in this stuff."
>>737290760there is also one with that black clover
>>737290758physical pain is easy to deal with, cringing at her bad display of whatever this is will be slightly harder to deal with.Letting Martlet down is a pain I may not be able to recover from.
>>737290760He knows Ketsukane girls can be relentless when denied. Just smile and bear through it.
>>737290804I have to respect this artists dedication and the fact that they still draw the other clover/kanakos.
>>737290826>physical pain is easy to deal with, cringing at her bad display of whatever this is will be slightly harder to deal with.That almost makes this predicament bondage.You have no choice, you have to go along with it.You have to call her your mistress, no matter how bad she is at it, your fate is sealed.
>>737290498She's into role reversal and instant loss
>>737290791>okay, maybe we could switch places>says the woman who came up with this idea in the first placeI think we call that a woman moment.
Guys, does marble actually call clover "very mature for his age" or am I misremembering?
>>737290882She owes me big time>>737290957I don't remember that happening but it's going on a year now since I played and I don't know of a dialogue file dump like undertale has.
...Where is Martlet working, anyway?
>>737290993>She owes me big time>that's no way to talk to your mistress!>now, on your knees!>i-if you don't mind...
>>737290883>setting this whole elaborate dominatrix thing up so that she can get role reversaled>>737291054that's it, shes sealed her fate. she's going to have to wear a sundress after this
>>737291093>she's going to have to wear a sundress after thisTrying to become a father, are we?
Sex with Fem Clover.
>>737290753No, she said that because she didn't feel good about attacking clover. Him insulting her would make is supposed to make her more willing to fight. But clover can't even insult her properly and just looks even cuter to her and she ends the fight
>>737291120as I said, her fate is sealed.the consequences are etched in stone I'm afraid.
>>737259958when did Wiki Sans do ts dawg
>>737291220By binding yourself to the bird in such a way, you will have to endure more of the bird's dreams of domination.And still, you would make such a choice?
The pact is sealed. She's also gonna have to wear one of those big hats that look really cute alongside sundresses.
>>737290745The sealing animation for hard mode is pure kino! I hope it is used in the normal playthrough sometime
>>737291402I still haven't seen it, I was too scared to give up my light, not because of the challenge, but because it just sounds like a bad idea and i want to help cole not sell his soul for 15 bux.
>>737289956Your thoughts? Did you see it?>>737289995
>>737281105Mo sells poison to everyone so he can collect their dust and sniff it to get that juicy LvL and also gets an emotional dialogue every scene
>>737291392Dominatrix Martlet will occupy the space in your head until the end of days.Mostly with how bad she is at dominating you.Which, in and of itself, technically constitutes a form of sadistic pain, even if unintentionally.So she's actually good at it?
>>737291484Well I suppose if Martlet wants to have an entire baseball teams worth of kids then she can keep this up
>>737291563Man, so devoted to her that you wish to have that many children?Perhaps she really is your mistress...
>>737291442To be fair, I think the whole dark shot sequence is a placeholder and going to be changed. The way I would make it, is to instead to create a secret unwinnable battle losing which takes away your light and starts hardmode. That way Cole isnt just selling his soul for fun I hope you play it someday, the animation is worth it...
>>737291642She'll be wearing a skirt next. Though the jeans and boots are cute. There will be give and take. If I have to put up with >p-please call me mistressThen the consequences will be most severe. My tastes are actually extremely vanilla, so there's not much more I can ask of her than to wear a sundressI may need to learn to cook for my new rapidly growing family though.>>737291654you've definitely got my curiosity. I'm also interested in the alt route but have been hit with spoilers that make me not actually want what happens. But then again what can one expect from that route if not shit hitting the fan?
>>737291840>If I have to put up with Hey, don't forget the leather outfits and whips.You wouldn't wanna let her down, would you anon?
why does UTN have a platform section, this ain't Super Mario
>>737291992because it's based. what a silly question.
>>737291948This all reminds me of the "martlet misunderstanding and thinking you have a talon fetish" thing.This god damn goofy ass bird.
>>737292013you know what would be based? Punching mechanics
>>737292083you've got those in fights with the machine gun punch.
martlet fans
>>737292050>This all reminds me of the "martlet misunderstanding and thinking you have a talon fetish" thing.Ah yes, I was also responsible for inflicting that on the threads.I do still plan on doing those sequence images for those three ideas, hopefully sometime over the summer.Hopefully also after I get more practice in with Martlet and Zenith Martlet, still haven't quite grasped the complexities of their designs just yet.
