Why are gamers so genre illiterate?
Vampire Survivors was the worst game I've ever played.You know how those clueless oldfarts think you're "addicted" to video games and that you're going to end up a degenerate like a crack user or something? Vampire Survivors is the kind of game that makes those retards right.It's digital degeneracy.
you probably spend way too much time worried about what other people think
Why are Wojak posters not banned on sight?
>>737260014dodge shit should be a genre that encompasses shmups and souls games
>>737260191Take your meds
>>737260296Same reason why nigger words are not filtered yetJannies want engagement slop
>>737260191I mean you are on 4chan so them calling you an addicted crack whore is basically trve
>>737260415>scorns nigger words>says slopCan't make this shit up.
>>737260296>>737260415wojaks are 4chan culture. we invented them retards
Soijak image propagators need to be put to death.
/qa/ lostsharty lostpack it up
>>737260014>gamers You mean Steam, which categorizes Age of Empires and Counterstrike 2 with the same tags. Steam got rid of user-voted tags half a decade ago after people started flagging games as LGBT and then setting that tag to auto-ignore.
>>737260652>we invented them retardsNo we didn't newfag you can at least bother to check KYM before coming here to pretend like you have been here before 2016.
>>737260014They're both unfun bullshit, what's your point?
>>737260014>left side: shit>right side: shitI genuinely don't see the difference.
Why is it this guy never wants to discuss shmups, but makes endless bait threads about shmups? I don't understand it. It's not limited to this subject either, more and more of 4chan is becoming this.
>>737261735This is legit the only shmup thread I've seen in yearsI've stumbled into plenty of stealth Touhou tranny threads because they communicate exclusively with dog whistles instead of "Hey is Raymoo good for you?" like a normal person but I don't count those.
>>737260014v4lv3dr0n3s are not gaymers
>>737261735Shmup bait threads ARE shmup discussion threads, though.
>>737262045We've just had 3 shmup threads you've let slip off the catalogue and didn't participate in. You'll bump this for 10+ hours and not discuss actual games at all.
>why don't kids know shit about the worldThey are kids dude...stop grooming them on roblox
>>737260014Because you faggots keep making up new bullshit fake genres every other week.I just found out "boomer shooter" is official tag on steam the other day. Like nigga, it's an FPS. Metroidvanias? They're action/adventure games. And what the fuck even is a Roguelike? That name tells me absolutely nothing about the genre at all because literally nobody has actually played the game the name comes from.Like seriously guys, knock it off.
>>737261735>Tranime
so how do i browse shmups (real shmups) on steam? is there a curator list or something?
>>737262930>And what the fuck even is a Roguelike?A game like rogue... You didn't play Rogue?
>>737260014left was made by japs so we have to soiface for it
>>737263134No i haven't played boomer ass videlectrix game
Shmups made me trans
>>737261735Thoughts on night striker gear?
>>737263473Don't really care for space harrier or it's clones, don't have a flight stick either. Additionally, I firmly believe that every truly good shmup is made after 1994, that's not a joke or a shitpost, even though I sometimes play shmups older than that I genuinely prefer that era of game design, so it would naturally follow I wouldn't really care about anything based on something before that period.
>>737263421https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GkwTRq5Skc
>>737260014This is literally rogue I never played rogue
>>737260014Because most of them are nascent little zoomlets that haven't actually played all that many games. Forget about understanding the sub-genres and distinctions within them; they have trouble getting over camera perspectives and technological rendering limitations. To them, Diablo, AoE, Baldur's Gate, and Civ III all look the same. Same thing with Alien Soldier, Gradius, Metroid, and Mischief Makers. They simply lack the experience and knowledge of older genres and games.
>>737261735Retards that want a thread on a subject but have nothing worthwhile to discuss will post "X thread" and get no traction. After this happens a few times, they'll have a melty and post "This board never has threads about X because everyone here has shit taste," which prompts a few other people to post "We have threads about X all the time, but your thread is shit and pointless." Having finally gotten any response, they decide that shitstirring is the only way they can make an active thread about X (which is technically correct, since they are too retarded to make a meaningful thread about X), which causes them to double-down on baiting from that point forward.
What shmups have you been playing recently?
>sharty shit thread
>>737265309You can't really complain about zoomers then list off a bunch of super casual time wasters that really are the same games made for the same retards.
>>737263803>every truly good shmup is made after 1994Raiden II/DX (1993)Rayforce (1994)Thunder Force IV (1992)These are all excellent shmups that still hold up decently well even today.What do you dislike about older ones?
>>737266091>>>>thunder force iv
>>737265401Blue Revolver DA, pure masterpiece that I didn't know I have been missing all my life till I tried it.Damn close to 1CCing on Hyper.
>>737266091Rayforce literally comes out after January 1, 1994. In fact, its release is exactly why I say 1994, it's the first actually good shmup. And if you think any thunder force game is good we're never going to see eye to eye in a million years, that series is genuinely steaming hot dogshit.Shmups made before 1994 do not have:1) Good scoring systems2) Good stage design3) Bullet patterns beyond just aimed shots4) Fun ship movementThere is absolutely nothing I could get out of an old dadshmup that isn't in a psikyo game, but ten times better. And speaking of psikyo, I am working on a Sengoku Ace 2-ALL right now, a game made before 1994, and boy does this game have problems. There is a mixture of waking up depressed going "why am I even bothering with this, I can safespot 3/4 of 2-4, this is boring" and having just enough decent design to keep me invested that I don't know if I should continue or not. Like if I really liked the game I'd probably be done with it by now, I really have mixed feelings on it.
>gives it a direct opposite name almost out of the game (bullet HEAVEN instead of hell)>still gets baited by youtube thumbnailsI think this is a personal skill issue, OP.
>>737266258You're allowed to admit you're bad at it
>>737266731The games are literally tagged bullet hell on Steam you dumb retardniggerfaggot
>>737266836No sentient human being is struggling with that game
>>737266731Meanwhile, in reality.
>>737266731>tranpire shitvivors trailer literally says "BECOME THE BULLET HELL">ERMMM NO ONE EVER SAID IT WAS BULLET HELL, CHUD!
>>737265897No idea what you are on about other than you not understanding that surface level examples are used for illustrating a point. Sorry I did not mention your favorite Zachtronics kaizo rogue-like grand strategy.
>go into any thread with any relevance of shooting em up>it's the eyepatchman poster and onitranny having a conversation in itso it's either the same person or just a discord circlejerkgot it
>>737267916>literally 4 shmup threads up today before this one>do not post in any of them>wait specifically until the shitposting thread to have a schizo meltdownI don't think you even play shmups
>>737260014What are you talking about retard? Those are bullet hell and reverse bullet hell (or bullet heaven) and everybody differentiates between those two.You should kill yourself for being smug while being wrong.
>>737268592>everybody differentiates between those twono they don't
>>737266534Having actual environments in your shmup and a good OST are crucial to them not being bad.
>>>737266534>>1) Good scoring systems>I will give you this one, many of them are pretty shit.>>2) Good stage design>Highly debatable.>>3) Bullet patterns beyond just aimed shots>If your standard for this is "it needs to cover then entire screen with a pattern" then this is simply an issue of taste.>>4) Fun ship movement>Again, this is an issue of taste.>>737269183>Having actual environments in your shmup and a good OST are crucialI agree. What is your opinion on the OST's of the three I mentioned?
>>737270676>this is simply an issue of taste.No, it's not an issue of taste. Here's how a boss works in a good shmup. This is just a normal midgame boss in the first loop>initial opportunity to point blank boss>now it's the bosses turn, have to pull down, pre-emptively know to pull down and carefully tap dodge aim shots with precise timing, which includes a curve ball>our turn again, point blank one of the wheels, but not both because the boss will sperg out, and pull down immediately because it can instantly kill you>rinse and repeat>first phase nearly done, light reactive dodging as we fly up and bludgeon the boss to death as a reward for dismantling it correctly>second phase, first we have a bullet pattern from the hell dimension, need to pull down to a precise location on the screen and use both a specific rhythm and the ui to accurately avoid it>very tough reactive dodge section>surviving that, need to man up and bulldoze through remaining bullets and slap the boss, then pull down and ride a wave of bullets>then JUST barely have enough to fly back up and beat the boss to death by the skin of your teeth before he cycles back into the panic attack patternMeanwhile, here's thunder force IV. The final boss.https://youtu.be/Z9udI9clZkUThis isn't subjective, it's just garbage lol. May as well just go play some modern movie game.
>>737260014Roguelike
>>737262930Boomer shooter makes sense. They're FPS games designed like old FPS games like Doom and Powerslave. No regenerating health, armor pick ups more than 2 weapon slots etc>what the fuck even is a Roguelike?Look up the Berlin Interpretation and marvel at the absolute autism. The short answer is that it's meaningless. It refers to games of various genres that have shit like permadeath and procedural generation. If you want games that are actually like it's namesake, Rogue, look at the traditional roguelike tag
>>737266258Thunder Force IV is a good shooting game
>>737272820refer >>737271897
>>737260191This. It's a slot machine you don't have to sink money into. It disgusts me how so many normalfags fell for it.
>It's a good game>Why?>Uh um uh me like musicI hope people can appreciate how difficult and boring it is to communicate with a caveman like this
>>737273924What the hell are you talking about
