If people only ever talk about the "lore", and not the actual characters and story that lore is meant to supplement, it's trash. Lore can't exist on its own. Much like how icing is worthless without a cake, lore is worthless without characters or a plot.
people talk about the gameplay, idiot. go read a fucking book
>>737265354>storyThere literally is none
>>737265354You tried lol
>>737265354what a shockingly stupid opinion, thank you.
Daily reminder that Lautrec is a real nigga and if you kill him to revive some bitch firekeeper who doesn't wanna live anyway then you is a bitch
>>737265354OP you the dumbest motherfucker I've ever seen
>>737265354>Lore can't exist on its own. Much like how icing is worthless without a cakeTRVKE NVKE
>>737265354(You)
>>737265992you tell em drogonarian
>>737265354>he got filtered by DS1 story
>>737265671You are nothing but an imitation
>>737265483Then why does FromSoft fill all their games with all this useless "lore" and NPCs spouting cryptic nonsense?
>>737266658Because they are cool devs and people like it.
>>737266604Yurt's an actual dickhead. Lautrec never targets the player, the player kills lautrec for some firekeeper
>>737266658Hate to break it to you bro but none of it is cryptic, you're just dumber than rocks
>>737265671don't care im getting my fap ring every playthrough and there's nothing you can do to stop me
>>737265671Don't care about the firekeeper, but I do care about the fire itself.
>>737265354I prefer being able to piece together a story from bits scattered throughout the world instead of having to deal with a bunch of fucking cutscenes. People play Dark Souls for the combat and atmosphere.
Seigmeyer, Patches and to a slightly lesser extent Lautrec etc are probably better known than 98% of videogame characters
>>737266658Because faggots like you demand they exist and they need to sell products since they are a company.
>>737265671He's a rat that deserves death but I always let him kill the firekeeper because I like his armor. It looks sick with the royal helm.
>>737265354but it does have a plot and characters. the characters and plot are simple, but thats fine. that doesn't make them any less capable of making an impactful experience with lots of lore. dark souls was never supposed to be The Brothers Karamazov with its characters and War and Peace with its plot.
>>737267214>the player kills lautrec for some firekeeperlautrec killed someone innocent who was also hugely helpful for me and my quest. of course ill hunt him down and kill him for this massive infringement.
>>737265354So are you guys actually in the know?You know that Rosaria is actually Aldrich's mother, right?Who is Gwynevere's daughter.Which means that Aldrich is LITERALLY a direct descendant from Gwyn.He is a god who eats gods.
>>737265671He's literally the joker of the DS universese.He knows it's all bullshit so might as well roll with it.
>>737269029You aren't piecing anything together, you're just making shit up
>>737270253hes not. he is part of the archetype of trickster assassin that appears throughout the series. starting with yurt, of course. they always serve someone higher than them and trick the player into trusting them, freeing them and they eventually start killing people around the player.
>>737265354Wrong, the lore supplements the game design, not the characters, not the story. Tired of zoomers entering game design discussions and talking exclusively about story the entire post.
>>737265671Lautrec is a fucking simp to his goddess (hence he is clad in her image and his ring is literally about Favour and Protection that breaks when you simply take it off), he hunts Firekeepers for their souls to offer to his goddess. Complete waste of everyone's time at the very least and at the worst impedes pilgrims in trying to do their jobs. He is not even in communion with the goddess herself, his armor and equipment are all self-made. Fina and her followers fucked off from Anor Londo when Gwyn banished his firstborn.
>>737270873Game design as a study wasn't even fully realized until the 2000s. Back then it was all trade secrets or something you had to figure out by either intuition and/or trial and error.
>>737265354jeet detected
>>737270330You can't prove that.
>>737265671How did he manage to shout all this before he hit the ground?
>>737271783>Soul ArrowCome the fuck on, anon.
>...Dark Souls sounds intriguing. But, do these guys have any personality, these characters? I mean is there any humor at all?
So, they found a whole new unfinished sewers map in dark souls 2.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzdYD1LzSdE
>>737267284>it's not cryptic, you just have to piece everything together through 1-sentence item descriptions and random one-off NPC dialogue and reading 20 pages of fandom wiki
>>737271457>when Gwyn banished his firstborn.He never banished his first born, retard.
>>737272754And it's still more interesting than 600 million dollar western AAA games with 50 writers.
>>737272796Are you saying he just left?
>>737271861I know, right? You should buy Great Soul Arrow from Griggs as soon as you get back from Undead Parish. What a rookie.
>>737273168He was banished after Gwyn left for the first flame.
>>737272882It's not the least bit interesting. You just think it is because you wrote it yourself
>>737275680That's why you get so mad right
the individual character stories in dark souls 1 are actually kino though. Also the overarching Artorias plot is pretty good.
>>737272882there's not much difference between AAA slop story and "it's just vibes bro, if you want the lore you need to waste your time with a lot of bullshit or watch a youtube summary"no wonder fromslop flopped hard in japan and it's only popular with normalfags
>>737276026Fromsoft have always wanted to cater more to the western notions of an RPG. For the Souls series, they fully invested into just making the sounds, audio and dialogue be completely western with no Japanese version unlike hundreds of other titles they made and published.
>>737276026Everybody has different tastes mateWhy do you get so mad about a game series that's different than all the other games?Just don't play it
>>737265354Bro you're dumber than 99% of people older than you, you don't read, you don't like school, stop talking about stories
>>737265354It clearly can, you just posted the prime example.If you want both lore and plot, play Sekiro or Black Souls instead.
>>737265354>NOOOOOOOOOOO THE STORY ISN'T BEING SPOONFED TO ME AND I LITERALLY CANNOT THINK CRITICALLY OR SPECULATE We know, OP. You've been telling us this for 15 years.
>>737278725please just go back, tranimefaggot.
>>737279035Go back to where? This is an anime website.
>>737279072hiro has said it is not an anime site. the word of the creator of 2ch matter more than yours. go back.>>>/a/
>>737279190Make me
