MapleStory Classic online test has entered its 6th day. Who else got in? For those who didn't, who are we watchin'? /ourgirl/ just hit 20 straight hours.
Open beta when?
I couldn't sign up for the beta because I never had a maplestory account prior.Started playing on a classic private server but after level 10, I forgot the PIN to log in and there's no support to contact for the private server
>>737266071so is this like, for kids that were too poor to afford wow in the 2000s, and koreans?
Sins getting to 50 is fraudulent since there's a low chance of ap/sp resets being obtainable without paying.
>>737266219Based.
>a grindsnorefest where you do nothing but kill mobs endlessly>extremely repetitive>depth is non-existent Nostalgiatards need to die. That's what this is all about, nostalgia but zero substance.
>>737266071>tfw no chef gf
This shit is never going to work. The reason modern is still alive is because Boomers are able to finish dailies in 15 minutes and weekly bossing in about 2-3 hours. 90% of active players are playing 1 hour a day or less.
I still can't decide between Fighter and Page... I like the bonking with Page but I'm a bit worried about 3rd/4th job.
>>737266071Only Niru is watchable
>>737267186>nu-maplefag>watchablebig yikes
>train with guy named palico something>ask what weapon he mains in monhun>get ignoredis this kind of anti-social behavior really going to infect classic ms, too?
anyone manage to buy and chargeback a beta key from ebay?
>>737266219WoW had an older playerbase because of the paywall in general yeah. Rich kids like elliot rodger got their dads to buy them subs at younger ages
>people will grind this game autistically when it releases reaching lvl 80 before el nath and Ludibrium releases.
>>737266219YesMost of the Maple players were azns, or brokefags with shitpcs and couldn't get a subscription for wow.
>>737268995I just hope Nexon doesn't focus on making more content only for that small group of autists just because they're streamers
>>737266071How do I get a gamer gf like this
>>737269174anyone who gets to level 70 in old maple is a hero and deserves to be kowtowed to
>this closed test
>>737268005It's not "infecting" it's the norm since the early 2010s. Thanks, stranger danger!
>>737269583It's not that big of an achievement, I got to level 83 on my Ranger back in the day and I have no idea what I was doing
>>737266219>most of my friends played maple and never got to experience wow
>>737266219Yes, why do you think the majority of people playing Classic are around 30? Because they were kids with no money 20 years ago
what level do you unlock those store keepers that you can put up to sell items? you don't have to always put up shop yourself, right? I can't remember... is it a NX item?
>>737269983NX
>>737269983In this test you do.And you only need to get off maple island, it doesn't work there, you have a free one.The shops with borders and more slots are in the cash shop, but there's no auto-attended ones where you don't ahve to stay logged in.
https://poal.me/5liw5n
world first jr balrog level 80 done with level 45-50 mages. they need a nerf
Elixirs are beyond fucking fucking dead>Only 35% HP & MP>Has a 30 second cooldown
>>737270519it's classic, you thought mages wouldn't be the far and away top tier?
>>737270520Good, I hated the Elixir meta
>>737270662I thought mages were only good at 1st and 4th job unless I'm remembering wrong. They had low single attack damage and didnt scale well with matk?
>people just grinding for hours at a timeman, if it's this boring watching, imagine playing
>>737271847yes, this is why everyone with a brain is laughing at the insane FOMO going on, and people for some reason paying $200+ for fucking keys.go look at any town, half the people who are "playing" are actually just afk with a shop up, with the game in the background.
>>737271847Maplestory is only fun to watch when mass graves drop, or there's real tension in a boss fight.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3f8TVflgUQ
blackgoku more than anyone else should know that even if /v/ will start playing this garbage they'll all leave before they hit level 30
why is there a 24/7 general for this shit?can you guys stop talking about this shit constantly?i didn't get my code
>>737266071is there a timeframe on a full release?
>>737271847Maple story use to be a chat room 1st and a game 2nd.
>>737271847i was going to play this game but seeing how they gutted PQ xp i will probably skipno fun in just mob farming for hours on end
Can you believe Assassin's Drain has become the best skill in the game?
>>737266219MapleStory came out before wow did.
>>737272157nope, inkwell said last year that "it was ready for release" but this beta has crashes just from opening party/buddy lists unless you're on comp for win7. Accuracy is so fucked that everything but mages miss over 60% of the time following standard stat spread and gear prog.If it launches it's gonna tank, it'll need till winter at LEAST for them to fix this shit, but they also didn't see it in the year it's been announced and the multiple years "they've been working on it" so I don't think it'll ever be good enough. So they probably launch soon to rugpull.
>>737272461That skill is a trap. The reason it's working so well in this beta is because SP resets aren't tied to real money. The moment Classic goes live and SP resets are behind a paywall again, drain will go back to being a character bricker.
>>737272578Actually they're just going to buff lucky seven.
>>737272640Buffing Lucky Seven does nothing for sins at the moment since they're massive pot eaters outside of drain. The beta players are getting far too comfortable relying on AP/SP resets or not thinking about how those might be potentially unobtainable for the average players.
YOOOOOO F/P BE COOKINhttps://www.twitch.tv/ereklo_game/clip/AffluentCovertLardBibleThump-5q7WTdOxDps_VRxG
>>737270520>>737271037
>suggestion to make game easier>all the plebbies agree>suggestion to nerf mages>magetrannies be mad as fuck
>>737273291Melee characters are fucked
>>737267018>The reason modern is still alive is because Boomers are able to finish dailies in 15 minutes and weekly bossing in about 2-3 hours. 90% of active players are playing 1 hour a day or less.this is the stupidest take.dailys fucking suck. the og didnt have them. you played not for a reward. you played cause playing a videogame was fun. if it wasnt fun you did something else.if a daily is the only reason you log in you stopped playing that game months ago.
Why can't any doomers explain why OSRS survives?
>>737273706OSRS didn't get good until a year into its life. Said doomers don't realize the game isn't going to be perfect at launch.
>>737273963>OSRS didn't get good until a year into its life. Said doomers don't realize the game isn't going to be perfect at launch.
>>737266071Thoughts on /ourgirl/?https://www.twitch.tv/triciaisabirdyWill she ever get off the anti-depressants?
ISRAEL??
>>737274178women can't be depressed
>>737273706It literally lost 80% of players in the first months. It recovered because they added the GE and new meaningful content with Zulrah, then just kept adding new content to keep players interested.
/ourdrunk/
>>737274304if you live anywhere in the first world you can't be depressedyou also can't be depressed if you're middle class or higher in any country on earththe only people who can actually experience depression are the poor and working class, everything else is rich person malaise
>>737266071When is this coming out for real?I never played maplestory but I'd like to give a try. From what I've heard modern maplestory is a shadow of its former self, as with all legacy MMORPGs
>>737272578Explain. I haven’t been keeping track of the sin changes.
>>737273339>qol that everyone likes vs balance change that nerfs a very popular classWOOOOOOOOOOOOW
>>737274595No release date confirmed yet but the general vibe is sometime this summer.
>>737266219If you were a weeb you played maplestoryIf you were autistic you played runescapeif you were rich you played wowIf you were eastern european you played tibia
>>737274730I've played all of those except for tibia. What does that make me?
>>737274774A loser
>>737274650Drain at a certain level can effectively heal a sin back to full health so you spend less on hp potions and can focus on getting lemons, making them more efficient than clerics.But this relies putting points into drain. What most players on the CBT are doing is respeccing their ability points with AP Resets for different grinding spots effectively "nullifying" the opportunity cost of having drain over the other assassin skills. This won't work at launch if you're a f2p like 99% of players are because SP Resets are in the cash shop and will be directly tied to paying just like before.
>>737273339Even in original MS mages rarely had to worry about accuracy, but they would still miss on occasion and they certainly couldn’t tank or hit enemies too high of a level above them. The way the accuracy formula seems to have been reworked for Classic World, it should be factoring enemy level way more than originally, which is why the rest of the classes have been struggling on enemies they otherwise used to hit consistently, but I almost wonder if there’s some error with how magic damage is being calculated in that formula that basically lets it bypass accuracy completely. It’s very clear that something isn’t right with how overturned mages are right now.
>>737274954leaf points existing means anyone will be able to get resets.Now, will the resets be one-for-all or one-for-one remains to be seen, they're one for all now but that means fuckall for a month.
>>737275091Leaf points are the maple points equivalent, not reward points. You won't be getting those f2p.
>>737274650>>737274954Forgot to post the pic which contained Assassin skills. Yes drain is really good but if you're putting points into Drain, you're potentially not putting points into claw mastery, throw, booster or haste."""Free"""" SP Resets gets around this opportunity cost but it'll be dependent on if SP resets are obtainable through F2P means.>>737275091I hope so, but if this is the case then Drain would have to be nerfed because they work really well thanks to this weird technicality.
>>737275080They didn't have to worry about accuracy for anything realistic to train on, but they couldn't casually go to an enemy 20+ levels above them and not expect to miss most of the time. Magic is just ignoring accuracy entirely right now.
>>737275159Fuck, all of those skills sound too useful not to max
>>737274774Oxygen leech
>>737275159What site is this?
>>737274954Oh damn, didn’t realize they were gaming the free ap/sp resets to that extent. It’s been nice having them as a warrior to try and dial in a proper level of necessary accuracy for the mobs I’m trying to hit but figures that sins are abusing it.
>>737275406https://meowdb.com/msclassic/classes/thief
>>737275154>you won't be getting those f2p?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????the entire point of the system is to have a split in which nexon can reduce the reliance on RMT by offering players an in-game path to nx>mesos. There are literally leaf point vouchers. You'll be able to trade them buddy.
>>737274937>>737275360Well, that's not very nice.
>>737275425Thanks, bro.
>>737275436You cannot trade the leafpoint vouchers and it’s pretty clear they’re going to be exclusive to the beta. If they do return it will be for special events and will have an expiration date to redeem, and again they won’t be tradable.
>>737275423I was saying that beta players shouldn't get too comfortable with the ap/sp resets because there's a chance it might not play out that way in actual retail classic.If launch actually stays this way and getting AP/SP resets is doable as a F2P then yeah this is a great strategy.
>>737275645holy shit you're a fucking idiot. got it.
>>737275436Ah yes the meso market, a very classic feature. Are you genuinely retarded?
>>737275692yup, like downjumps and "arcforging" (lol) and 1080p res.
>>737275348Those four skills are straight up mandatory for Sins after 2nd job.
>>737274678>WHAT?! YOU CAN'T JUST NOT LET ME KILL JR.BALROG AT LEVEL 40!
>>737275759Literally no one is seething about this except people that can’t and/or won’t play. Shut the fuck up you doomertranny
>>737275850Most people agree with you looking at that screenshot, what's the problem? You expected a unanimous vote on that one issue?
>>737275997Deadass if you go to the Maplestory Discord right now and say Holy Arrow should get nerfed, you get at least 5-6 mage mains biting your head off and eventually insulting you.Holy Arrow has the highest single-target DPS in the game, and their defence is "it's second job. mages are bad for bossing after 3rd job" - apparently that makes it ok for Clerics to outdamage Assassins/Bandits/Warriors in 2nd job.
p-please... release the g-game..................
>>737276057And that's 5-6 retards that don't matter. I see dissenters on any decision with an obvious answer, can see it all over the poll channels.That said you're also dishonest as fuck. It's clear you care more about getting a rise out of people then about any balance.
LET ME IN
>>737276284>t. retardThe point is valid that magemains get mad as fuck at the mere suggestion they shouldn't be the most overpowered class in the game.
>>737269714>CSMgroid here to announce how retarded they are unprompted
>>737276057It’s fine that holy arrow is good considering they killed heal spam for mobbing. Fix their lack of need for accuracy and you fix everything currently making mages OP.
>>737276497You think it's fine that Clerics have the highest single-target DPS in the game by far?You are a complete idiot.
>forgot maplestory existed>intrested in classic>didn't get into beta>look into what maplestory is now>actually seems kinda cool>installed the game yesterday>already have a character 120 (kronos)There are a few small annoyances but so far I've been having quite a bit of fun
>>737276553nobody is falling for this
>>737276640
>>737276553>>737277289Nothing wrong with liking modern.I am a Classic guy and that's what I'm interested in playing, but I had my time playing modern and it was fun.You're experiencing the best part, that initial spark. Eventually you will reach a point where the daily grind becomes a bit much. Some people like it, I didn't.
>>737277378Every game I play, no matter how much I enjoy it, I'll eventually drop. I wake up one morning and never launch it again. It happens without fail and it'll happen with this one too but I'll enjoy it while it lasts.
>>737276553just letting you (and anyone who falls for the propaganda) know:nu-maple is EXTREMELY seasonal event reliant for newbies, so while you're free to play however you want until summer or winter event, it is HIGHLY recommended you actually make your main during those major events (begins on june or dec) to take advantage of the full newbie handjob packagestarting while off-event literally makes the early game experience DOZENS of times slower, so it's better to just messing around like doing irrelevant world quests in the meantime rather than trying to actually progress
>>737277758It's still fun to experience the content that is available before level 200 at least once. Also theres *probably* a hyper burn in next weeks anniversary event anyway
>>737278070there isn't, the next hyperburn comes with CW3 coming in late may or early june.
Anyone got those datamined skill changes?
>>737278525meowdb.com
>>737274730>eastern europeanOr a hue monkey:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3n_NsvGZSg
>>737278605Many thanks.
Is this shit really still bugged? I've seen people complain about it for days.
>>737271847There's a reason PQs were highly regarded compared to grinding. Making parties valuable is a big start but there needs to be cosmetic reasons behind grinding in different areas and more gameplay interaction vs mobs. They should give areas unique spawn behaviors and mob mechanics. I'm honestly disappointed that maplestory hasn't advanced to the point where you're playing an MMO -vania where you dodge attacks, execute combos, and solve puzzles to advance.
>>737279086What about it being bugged? Not being able to craft while next to the crafting station? you made sure your etc inventory wasn’t full, right?
>who are we watchin'?
Been watching dinocries and man the fomo hit an all time high watching the gms spawn bosses for the ellinia crowd. I want in so bad.
>>737266219The novelty of it being an MMO 2d platformer was huge since those didn't really exist, there came to be a number of clones but they were pretty bad and jankier than maple. Even to this day online 2d platformer games really just aren't that much of a thing
>>737279170>etc inventory fullOh ffs. Would it kill them to add a popup? Hopefully that's tweaked before the launch.
>Having an optimal 1st job build is only possible if you skill point reset after hitting 2nd job>Which is going to be locked behind p2w sp resetsTrash, garbage game
>>737275159>Critical Recovery>30s cooldownAm I reading that right? That sounds pretty mediocre
>>737279423Yes it's as mediocre as it sounds. The 30 second cooldown means you're never going to consistently capitalize off of its healing.
>>737279161I would like to see a version of the game that captures the classic vibe but with more mechanical complexity. Something that controls like hollow knight or something would be cool. I’ve always had a suspicion that someone at Team Cherry used to be a mapler
>>737279280the nostalgia bait is real I miss my cleric and bowman
>>737266071>simp faggot streamerfag OPstarting off with maximum garbage, very daring
>>737279280Also the lead developer literally hanging out with perionhoes and participating in event jumpquests.
>>737279423>>737279489It's literally Endure's replacement. The effect is nearly identical too, the main difference is you can't benefit from it by just idling.
>>737279592FangBlade?
>>737279675not the real fangblade, he logs into modern once every few months to hoe around and says he has 0 interest in classic or maple in general.
>>737279713why
that’s it im buying a key off ebay
>>737279759the keys aren't real bruv almost nobody got invited in
>>737279750because he grinded out dozens and dozens of hours every single week, on top of spending hundreds of dollars every month to be the first to 200 and no longer gives a shit. Sorta like zezima on runescape, no one cares.>>737279759they are real, just remember to report the key as fraudulent no matter what, because I guarantee you're buying from a chinese.Look at their ebay stats if they have nothing but buys (usually pokemon cards) or are only SELLING pokemon cards, they bought the account. There are thousands of for sale ebay accounts that don't look overly suspicious.If it's chinese, report them to ebay after you get your key (and confirm it worked) and get your refund!
>>737279845that sounds like being unable to fully let go
>>737279514I could see that. There's constantly been a market for good -vanias it boggles my mind that a studio hasn't taken the low hanging fruit of doing a maple adjacent MMO in the format with actual gameplay. It also lends itself to being playable on phones which is what lots of Asian game studios require for production.
I would buy a key and refund it but my ebay account got banned after I didn't pay some ridiculous % they wanted on some $200 anime figure I sold.
>post-big-bang UIoof
Is Niru's brain fried?
>>737268148Yeah and many parents back then didn't understand "subscription services" aka they were not going to give you their card to sign up for something online. I tried to explain I'd pay for signing up for WoW, but they basically said they don't want their CC info online. Besides that, you need an actual graphics card($500-800 back then) to play WoW at 60 fps, as well as a Core 2 Duo Intel at 2.0 Ghz $(700-900) at the time. Also Broadband internet, which was 3-5Mbps at the time and cost quite a bit monthly in the US ($60/mo) to even download the 10-20gb WoW client. Maple ran on anything, required only dial-up and was less than 1 or 2 gigs of space so could be downloaded in an hour or two.
>>737271916Every hunting spot has a full party if not 2 to the map, 24 hours a day and every non hunting spot map has at least 2-3 people is not more. The games full bruh imagine crying cuz u got no key
>>737266219WoW never appealed to younger me. I spent my subscription privileges on Toontown. I played Maplestory a couple years after that.
>>737280219nexon did something dark to him he'll never forget. it's not even his fault.
>>737280658Forgot to mention this was both channels being full not just ch1
>>737280658I got a key and only THE most popular maps are full, you're lucky to find one person outside of ant tunnel, stirges, pig beach, RFE, HHG.and let's be generous and assume 2 full parties each (usually 1), that's like 50 fucking people, on 2 channels that's 100, that's nothing dude.I'm not saying the game is dead but there's not nearly as many people playing as everyone's trying to hype up, most people are just watching the fucking game cause they didn't get in.I did, btw.cause I'm not a fucking loser and I've been playing maplestory longer than you've been alive.
>>737280781Nexon gave him his own tailor made figurine and a bunch of other cool merch.
Based dinofries showing all the event summoning.
>>737281210Your first sentence is bullshit so I'm not reading the rest. I routinely encounter 4+ people in random transition maps there is no value training on because they were pushed out of the other ones while walking between the cities. The average map in the play test is far more populated than it ever was in live classic. Which makes sense because there's literally 2 fucking channels
me level 15, where is the special chat ring quest
>>737281478>uggo wop charisma-black-hole is the only person showing the little shit the other streamers aren'tgrim. they need to just release the game.
Our boy niru boutta hit level 50https://www.twitch.tv/niru
>>737281738/ourgirl/ triciaisabirdy was also at ellinia and also trying to merch her way to being the richest
>>737281746Stunning and brave that he kept playing MapleStory after... well... you know...
>>737281820Niru is 100% classicpilled, loves it.
>>737281576did you do the quest for it after hitting 15
Classic Doomer here. I just thought of something. >Classic can't survive because realistically Nexon can only copy/paste skills from modern and call it "balance"Basically Classic has no chance of ever obtaining it's own identity because of this. The drain change is how it works in modern. Masteries for classes is how they work in modern. The weapon attack/attack power divide is how it works in modern. They basically won't ever come up with any original job skills for classic and will just keep copying over modern skills into the classic engine. A lot of the current changes seem inspired by early big bang when inkwell was in charge as well.
>>737282049Early big bang changes were fine, the problem was giving everyone flash jump and FMAs afterwards. For a very brief period of time (outside of creeping cancer like potentials which came before BB and Victoria Islands layout getting destroyed) BB was actually a really high point for the game.
>>737281984it's just not there. only event quest is the points one
blackgoku and i found an exploit and we aren't going to report it
>>737282049well it makes sense they basically imported classic into the new engine, so in the backend it probably runs mostly the sameI have no clue what they've been spending all their time on. I guess re-doing artwork a bit so it fits better on hi-res monitors, and the crafting system stuff. But this doesn't mean they can't change things and try new stuff, they already added a new zone.
how do i stop being salty about the beta exclusive ring. even every person back in 2005 was able to get the mark of the beta.
>blackgoku and i found an exploit and we aren't going to report it
this guy walks up to your maplegf and fucks her right in the ass. how do you respond without sounding mad?
>>737282310I fuck him in the ass while he's doing it.
if they're adding a crafting system why not add a reworked ardentmill at that point?
>>737282398not oldschool, and nobody likes fatigue
>>737274730rich weeb = ffxi
>>737282413>reworked
>>737282448>not oldschool
>>737282448what is it abut not oldschool you are having trouble understanding dickhead? the new crafting system is more or less an oldschool implementation of ardentmill
>>737277464are you me, it sucks
>>737282145Yeah, lots of people blindly hate on Big Bang when it did more good than harm for the game. In my opinion the only bad thing Big Bang really did was streamline the map design and made everything flat. The actually bad stuff didn't come out until later. Power creep started to take over after Mechanic's release, and widespread mobility skills like Flash Jump started around Mihile's release.
Niru is 90% lads.
>>737282530NTA but no, that is a normal fucking thing. It is human nature to enjoy things for a short while then move on to something new or different. The entirety of the human race has developed the way it did specifically because of this - people get bored of the status quo and want to change things, move on to something else, or explore something new.If anything, playing the same exact game for several years is the indicator something is wrong with you, and unfortunately modern game devs are specifically designing games catered to this exact crowd. Every game is trying to be someone's "forever game". Gachas are notorious for this shit.
>>737266219poor hands typed this post because all the rich kids were P2Wing maplestory LOL
>>737282398>map you can get to from town that sucks out the fun and point of staying therekill yourself. the free market is a necessary evil. we don't need another area like it.
>>737282540>In my opinion the only bad thing Big Bang really did was streamline the map design and made everything flatTbf most of the later areas and relevant spots were already flat, compact short maps, bb just made vic island more like the rest of that.
>>737266219I'm not playing MS Classic, but I played GMS Beta, played a little bit of official release, and then also played vanilla WoW early enough to still remember when Perdition's Blade and Corehound Tooth had their original, shitty generic graphics.
I want more maps like the h/voodoos.Maps that have extremely low mob count but spawn high-HP and high-EXP mobs comparable to other popular maps but like, 30% slower.
>>737282607>>737281746Imagine if the GMs summon Jr Balrogs on him at 99% as revenge for what he did
>>737282879I have no problem with occasional flat areas. We can't expect all indoor maps to have unique geometry. It's when 99% of the maps are like that is where it becomes an issue to me. Sure we had Ghost Ship, Haunted Mansion, Magatia, and Temple of Time which were all flat, but there were plenty of non-flat areas as well. Big Bang got rid of all that.
Niru at 99.99%Rant incoming
>>737282772But the fm can be fixed by allowing shops everywhere and it even makes it more fun than arbitrary. Setting up a shop in front of the vendor selling your old mage gear for 20% off in front of the ellina shop for example to fund your next mage gear is fun. Or setting up a shop with mission items you found in front of the mission NPC. That said I suppose it's only fun in limitation of the beta test. If it followed to live classic in a few months people would just make underselling NPC shops a full time job and snipe the location every reset like a turbojew
>>737266219Exactly
>third world monkey botfest rmtfest grinding game returns with a 'classic' modeLol
>>737283927posted it again award
>>737283927>returns it never left you just decided to come back to get a you
>>737283927boy i sure hope you posted this when wow and rs had their classic revivals
I want to play nyow. Need game nyow.
>>737283290crazy how nobody gives a fuck about niru unless it's to mock him. other people have already hit 50 way before him, i think slash was the first. regardless it's really funny how little attention he gets when other people beat him to the punch.
>>737284229That's because normal people moved on. It's stranger that he even has schizos upset at him.
>>737283935>>737284127>>737284170>Seething turdie shitgibbon meltieKek
>>737284352>schizos upsetI... do not think that's what that is.
>>737284395There's been someone absolutely determined to paint niru in a bad light over the course of the closed beta tests for no actual reason and it's been very strange
>>737283113Assassin claws typed this post.
>>737276057It should probably be toned down, but I don't have a problem with holy arrow being good. But I do have a problem with cold beam being shit.Because of the way multi hit skills scale, it's barely better than magic claw, and in fact magic claw scales better so it does eventually out damage cold beam and fire arrow.This is some clown world shit no matter how you look at it.
>>737284479I think there's people making fun of him for doing something weaselly. This conspiratorial thinking is really not healthy. I don't personally like him, and I find the /ourguy/ posting really weird and embarrassing parasocial behavior and honestly really annoying. I get the feeling that by expressing that, you'll just accuse me of being the person you're strawmanning.
>>737284754No, I wasn't joking about schizos. You're not going "niru was RAPED and GAPED and bent the KNEE to suck NEXON COCK while CRYING" while aggressively attacking anybody who asks for proof or telling him to fuck off. It's not a conspiracy thing it's just someone being weird over niru
>>737284229You an idiot? He hit 1k views for his level 50 hit.Nobody gives a fuck about the no-name chinks who hit 50 first.
>>737284849I think there's some confusion. That's just standard shitposting over something they find annoying. It's common all over the fastest boards, and the phrase "lost and got raped" is repeated ad nauseaum all over the site and it's not used seriously. It just sounds like people got tired of other people spamming links to him and screencaps nobody really gives a fuck about, and the logical next step was to just mock the people spamming those links. I personally get annoyed by people using these threads as a second Twitch chat myself.I don't think I want to keep engaging with this, so I'll leave it at that. I know /msg/ really likes him, so maybe posting it there wouldn't provoke so much shitposting.
>>737276057What about Final Attack being ASS for archers? It animation locks you when activating when you could possibly be mobbing. Hunter FA is literal dogshit, doing less damage than their mob skill and would lower their single target DPS. Crossbow FA lowers their mobbing DPS and will be lowering your single target DPS when 3rd job comes out because there's no way 3rd job Archer won't have Strafe.
>>737285091>What about Final Attack being ASS for archers?Absolutely nothing new.
Final attack should be an additional line of damage instead of an actual additional animation.
>>737285162Yeah, that's how they did it in Big Bang and made the skill better.
>literal in-game RPers on niru's stream
>>737285091They'll fix the skewed hitboxes and buff archers for launch don't worry. They wouldn't leave them like this and have the entire archer population die off before level 30... they will buff them you'll see...
>>737285223Archer is ass = no play.I will collect my squat on my 4 letter names in protest.
Why did they make all these changes? People literally wanted everything to be the same -HP washing
>>737285426Mostly because people didn't just want Classic to be the same -HP washing
>>737284886its a bunch of modern faggots who come to support a grifter
>>737285223Archer for life people will always play the class no matter how shitty it is.
>>737285448>t-those don't count
>>737285484easily botted, you don't think 2.5k people actually watch Ereklo do you?
>>737285585>>>>>>>>>>bottedlmao
>>737284886>>737285650>i just can't understand why people here don't seem to like people who treat the thread like niru's second twitch chat!the least you could do is put it in the general
it's true though most if not all high level players in nu-maple pay a third world nigger to play their accounts, classic won't be any different
>>737285858Piss off
>>737285858Even being generous it's like 18 posts positively talking about niru while he's streaming a closed beta test that the thread itself is about.You're either autistic or retarded
>>737281738>uggo wop charisma-black-holeWhat are you? A woman?
how strong are +5 crit earrings
>>737285650there's ai bots that increase views and chat in your channel these days granpa
earlier i found a code in my emails that had been sent days ago and i'd somehow missedi played a bit, i got a bowman and a mage to level 15its fun and i can answer questions if anyone wants
>>737286672Unless you're 50 already no one gives a shit about you.
>>737286672Cute character
>>737286672I give a shit about you.
>>737286672Are you a child of divorce?
>>737287000in a sense, but no
>>737286230Your coping is off the charts, sorry retard
what did nexon mean by this?
>>737287106That is actually really cool lore. I had no idea the tree was THAT long. Also funny since it's in kilometres instead of freedom units.>>737287115Free use box
>>737287029Your moms a bitch and you're a cucked faggot
Not sure why this sperg keeps trying to cry that Classic is a failure. Everyone who actually played it seems to love it even if there are a few issues.It's obviously not going to attract or retain new players in it's current state, but that was the same with OSRS which proceeded to add content and become very popular. Classic has a similar opportunity.
It's hilarious watching /msg/ faggots pretend to like Classic when they've been so against it for years already.
my thoughts aremages still have a hard start but get strong pretty quicki do think it's weird that they are so accurate, i think mages and bowmen should have about the same accuracythe crafting system is interesting and i'd like to see where it goeshopefully the mtx isn't intrusive, for now nx is basically free so its hard to judgei'm sure those inclined to gambling will be losing their minds over scrolls and hope that's enough for those of us who aren't can play in peace
INT should give accuracy and the magic accuracy formula should be removed in favor of just using the normal accuracy
>>737287601It's not even that they're "so accurate", it seems like they flubbed the calculations in a way that makes mages bypass it entirely.
oh alsoi don't like that the snail shell throwing skill is back to using shellsit makes the mage (and thief, i assume) start worse than it has any reason to be, and the skill is already hurt by everything having more hp, it's basically not worth usingespecially when the mage job advancement was moved to level 10it's sort of balanced out by base weapon damage being higher so mages can just smack stuff with a sword, but it's still slow and painful
this game doesn't respect your time.>but we're neets we don't careso? you can play better games, watch kino etc
>>737287883go back to nu-maple dumbfuck zoomer
>>737288089i havent played numaple i played a bit of legends and artale but thats about it
Anon spotted in the wild
>>737288209Yeah I burned out at level 25. No way I'll make it to 50 before the end.
>>737288326Judging by your loadout I'm guessing you picked Warrior and had a rough time
Having played too much of the closed beta it reminds me of everything bad about every Pserver ever where you have sweaties minmaxing like crazy and people spamming smegas to either shill their stream or talking like /pol/. Then you have the community which is full of merchants trying to one-up the other via either lying or scamming even when everything's going to get wiped.Was fun for a closed test to hit the nostalgia though.
>>737289247We told you no one stands around chatting anymore. The spirit of old maple is buried too deep for anyone to rekindle at this point.
>>737289370Closed beta was fun for what it was; never intended to play the actual release.
>>737289370/v/ will rekindle it
what time does the test end on the 22nd and how long does it take to get to 15?
>>737289247Hopefully actual launch will be better when people can actually play instead of a limited ammount of people. There definitely will be minmaxing, but for majority of players I don't think they care about that or putting in 12h days on grinding. Megas/smegas will likely be a bit more easier on the spam after initial hype and all that as you do have to pay for them. Merching is always going to be like that honestly.>>737290305April 16, 2026 6:00 PM UTC - April 24, 2026 12:00 AM UTCCan't say how long it takes to hit 15 since I didn't get in. From watching streams it doesn't seem too bad.
>>737290305Took me 2-3 hours.
>>73729030515 took me about 5~ hours as a mage.Primarily because I and my party kept crashing on winblows 10There's still plenty of people grinding every area, just ask for an invite and try to xpmaxx with 6people.
>>737268005>assuming someone else plays your particular flavor of weeb game
nupletards eternally seething
>>737289247Most people are deep in the sweat right now because it's a limited time event and they want to get as far as they can. It feels like everyone's doing everything they can to minmax because there's so few people (relatively) playing it right now.It'll be better on official launch when there's hundreds/thousands more playing the game. Yes, there will always be minmaxing sweats/NEETs, but they will be proportionally fewer compared to the casuals.
>>737290305I'm a crossbowman and I got to 15 four hours in, and a quarter of that was dicking around with other people rather than actively trying to level.If you're starting now, you'll be fine. There's plenty of time.
The summoning events remind me of OdinMS. Very soulful.
>>737266219I tried a ton of MMORPG back then but only stuck around to MS, specifically because the cheap side scrolling 2D lends itself really well for making a ton of setting variety. The world just looked fun to live in, unlike 3D MMOs of the time (or even today) or isometric 2D MMOs which had a hard time conveying structures due to the perspective. Also the devs didn't limit themselves to the standard aesthetic which made the environment much more varied, picrel. I spent a ton of hours exploring the world and barely even leveling.
Remember everything you hated? Well, it’s here. Bow whacking, bad janky hit boxes for any melee character, and the only “doable” classes to play pre-lv 35 are mage and throwing star rouges because mage is the most powerful and rouges have jump attack. Wanna fight kpq king slime as a melee? Well dont. With all lv 25 gear including cape and earrings, he hits 300, and hits OFTEN, so you literally can't heal fast enough, and you def cant afford the better 500hp pots, and even if you can you wont for long cause it took me over 20 white pots and i died once as a melee character (not to mention melee range SUCKS and you have to be on top of monsters). This brings me to the worst offender: you cant spam pots. It feels like pots have a 1sec cooldown, and on top of that you can’t use pots while picking up items, and you sometimes can’t attack or use pots while picking up items. Vise versa as well. I’ve gotten hit so much because i went to use a potion while a monster was coming at me and i couldnt attack because i used the potion =3=. I mean again… for a 20+ year old recreation, why keep all that jank? It feels awful! It doesn’t matter that despite all these things the nostalgia in my brain keeps me going somehow, because the game feels bad. This should be the smoothest most enjoyable experience in the modern day with our modern technology. I’ve played so many private servers with more quality of life, or improvements to game feel. I kinda mentioned it before, but they need to do something about hitboxes for melee characters. Idk what, they just need to fix it. Im currently amassing a compilation of “times i should have hit that monster but didnt” video. Final notes here are that quests aren’t worth doing and PQ is also too expensive considering the rewards suck 80% of the time. These should be great alternatives that give their own special rewards worth investing the time or being an alternative to just grinding mobs.
>>737293229sovl
nemi head
>>737293229(You)
>Get excited to replay an old MMO>Realise you are playing alone without friends>Too misanthropic and chudlike to socialise these daysI wish I can replay MMO's I used to enjoy but I just can't man. This happened to me with classic WoW.
>>737293229i never played before, so who cares
https://youtu.be/TcYhIeUDlmcHow do we get an influential figure to help fix maplestory classic?
>>737293397need nemi head...
>>737293895that's a nemi hat though
>>737292509this is cope brothe average casual in classic grinds 12 hours a dayif you're a "im going to stand around vibing and doing PQ's" guy you're going to be left behind with no one to play
Mages won
>>737294319I'm right there with you bro, just finished getting my ren to 280 on CW, got challenger, and I'm planning to hit 30 today on classic and go cleric to prep for forgotten hollow since a majority of it's mobs seem to be weak to holy if not undead outright (like the boss).There's room for both, but nexon has to tread carefully and stagger update cadence, to not cannibalize. People will definitely play during the GMS downtime with like haste events and shit, but if they have both doing major events and updates simultaneously it'll kill one or the other.
>>737294486me as the bishop
>>737266219yes.>t. was a poorfag in the 2000s, couldnt even afford fucking runescape membership
>>737294486Sex with F/P
>>737293397Why the fuck is this helmet in the game? fucking unbelievable they would allow this overpowered shit and shows they don't care about balancing.
>>737293229>>737293403no cap why does every autist want easy street?
CBT 2nd job tier list (accurate):S tier:assassinclericI/LA tier:F/PB tier:banditC tier:huntercrossbowmanD tier:fighterpagespearman
>>737295504its answered in the title of the second post, hes only got 3 hours, these people feel entitled to compete with little time investment, and they want the prestige to say there were competitive in a "hard" game. its very weird normie performative shit
Holy shit how does this Dinofries stream Classic 15 hours a day? And he's only level 41.
>>737295504That's clearly written by a nuple normalfag
>>737295792Numaple is literally harder the classic ever was
>>737285091I don't know why FA doesn't simply add an extra line with a percentage chance instead of animation locking you. Yeah it's kind of boring to have a skill that's just "add more damage" but it fits with Archer's original high variance vision (critical hits) and better than having a skill that costs 30 AP for what is purely a new player trap.
why not just play a private server
>>737295810/msg/fags couldn't even hit second job in 6 days
>>737295810Not the same kind of hard tardo.Numaple bosses are mechanically hard, which is very stimulating for the autistic mind.Classic is hard in the sense it requires diligence, patience and smart resource management. This confuses the autist who desires immediate stimulation at all times.
>>737295974So you'd rather it be capable for any braindead brownie to do instead of requiring mechanical skill?Just want to make sure I'm understanding you right, you want it to be easy and only require "resource management" (spamming pots)?
>>737295974>Classic is hard in the sense it requires diligence, patience and smart resource managementThis is a very generous way to express "holding your attack skill for 45 minutes while your pet autopots". I commend your creativity.
when do you guys think it will release? i hear some people saying it will release on maplestory's anniversary on may 11th? do you think that's realistic or is it too soon?
Take note ladies and gentlemen, this is what low-IQ looks like:>>737296089>>737296097Two separate posters who have completely failed to comprehend what resource management means, believing it's equivalent to "spamming pots".There is no point in trying to explain anything to such people, they were born with defective brains and it's very unfortunate. We must show them sympathy and kindness.
>>737295912Looks like all that mechanical bossing skill is useless if they can't even make it to Zakum. Which makes Classic harder than numaple as it filters out adhd autists.
>>737296169My new cope is summer, but even that might not happen. There is no way they would release on may 11th.
>>737295974This dude would ragequit if he knew how much patience modern maple actually requires for you to get even the most miniscule of gains
>>737296292Yeah cause zakum isn't even in the game and won't be for months
>>737296323i could see them MAYBE announcing a release date on may 11th, and then release coming at like august or something
>>737296328I don't deny for one second modern Maplestory is slow at the later levels, retard. The point of contention is that it's braindead. There is zero thought that goes into the grind, it's an endless loop of clearing mobs on flat-design maps.In Classic, there is a very real challenge with making sure you're making enough meso to offset the potions you're losing. This has filtered a huge portion of people including the redditor retard posted above. This challenge is non-existent in nuMaple because it's trivial to stockpile power elixirs, which heal 100% HP and mana instantly.
>>737296438Even if they do announce it during anniversary, it'll be vagueposting like "Summer 2026"
>>737296194Ah yes, you have no response, glad to hear.the BEST thing about new maple is the fucking bosses, it's really the only good thing, they've even gotten rid of grinding with sol janus.Classic maple's best element is the steady path of progression. They can both be made better.You're just a stupid nigger.
>>737296490I am sorry you are too stupid to understand the very simple concept of resource management, anon. Unfortunately autistic people like yourself just can't get your head around it.
>>737296438I do think around the anniversary there will be more information about classic. Honestly I think they might even run a new test after changing things around, but have to see. However I don't think they'll get everything fixed and in ideal state even for launch, but it is what it is.
>>7372964811. Grinding isn't hard, it's time consuming. Wasting potions doesn't make you fail grinding, it just makes it take longer. People used to just sit on chairs to regen instead of crying out running out of pots but muh efficiency muh min maxing.2. The entire point of numaple is that grinding isn't supposed to be hard because the game has evolved beyond grinding being the only thing you do.When Kobe fucking died out in hard kaling 3 times due to lack of hands he fucking crashed out and booted up classic world to relax. Does classic really sound like the more challenging game if numaple players literally use it as a more relaxing break?
I'm at level 28, I'm now making more money than I'm spending on potions. It's only really an issue from 10-20.
>>737296847>low IQ retard still can't understand resource management
>>737296906I accept your concession
>>737296906Their brains are fried from having 5000 flashy systems, sfx and animations in their face all the time. Be nicer to the brain damaged
>>737296964You're free to cope at your leisure, but you're still a retard who can't into resource management. It's just impossible for your autism riddled brain to understand :)
>>737296869There's still enough idiots who try to train at unsuitable zones for their powerlevel getting bankrupted every pot run.Otherwise going meso positive is pretty simple yeah
>>737296989You already conceded, no need to convince me futher
>>737296869Congratulations on passing the Great Filter.
what is it about maple that causes people to argue so much
>>737297163Autistic people argue.Maplestory's playerbase consists exclusively of people with autism.Normal people do not play Maplestory.
uhh guys?https://www.twitch.tv/darwinkg
>>737297245Maple seems to have a staggering amount of normalfags actually
WHY is this game SO POPULAR in that country
>>737297339maplestory has ALWAYS been the normalfag MMO, it's literally what started the "meet women on an MMO" thing because it was like 50/50 asian cali whores and men.
>>737297245>>737297339>>737297381They used maplestory as a chat room instead of grinding, it's literally why the term henehoe exists.Nowadays a game like FFXIV is more what normie girls play because most of the game is just like watching a twilight movie or something, you watch the pretty boys do cool things and then after that you can ERP with your e-boyfriend.
>>737296847Not him but it's clear to see Kobe is struggling hard in Classic. He's worse than the average Classic boomer.
>>737297339Most of whom aren't around yet because the game is in CBT and only the most autistic and dedicated people got a key along with some luckfags.Also most of the normies would take a look at the retarded shitflinging on all social media (leddit/4chan/discord) and just leave instead
>>737297551>strugglingwhat struggle? It's a time constraint, not struggle, lmao
>>737297551Did you only watch his warrior stream?
>>737297551>Manage to become I/L>Have 200 lemon and meat in inventory>Two shot fire boatWhere the struggle?
>>737297747To be fair he had a bunch of viewers literally give him supplies for free
>>737297534ff14 has way too many trannies shitting things up, and disgusting ERP losers roaming around going "FUTA DIX AT THE QUICKSAND NO MEN WOMEN ONLY (FUTAS OKAY)" in local chat. That's why ff14 has been bleeding players, alongside no updates.
>>737297379The same that makes any other game be particularly popular in certain countries:PC gaming happened to become popular just at the right time for Maplestory's demo release, so the MMORPG target audience wasn't already captured by other MMOs. Local flash game aggregator websites spread the demo around and it got popular. Maplestory then released globally and didn't require much to be played by kids with bad internet connection, so it kept growing more popular. By that point if you weren't playing Maplestory you were missing out on hangouts with your friends, so it became a national sensation.These days it isn't popular anymore, but old players have nostalgia for it.on a related note, this video was VERY popular for the time (though the view count doesn't really reflect it now):https://youtu.be/3xNiFAt2qvg?si=wRpqnUOoZgRl4xft
>>737293806What kinda new bosses would you like to see in classic?
>>737297683He couldn't handle playing a warrior and had to switch to easy mode mage. Taken out of his comfort zone he's dogshit at the game
>>737298205I'd like to see them backport boss changes like chaos zak (he would fit PERFECT in classic if they made him a little bit slower on the slaps, and actually requires skill instead of just a bunch of shitty stat and allcure locks), and then I think something like guardian slime would be pretty cool, he's not a super crazy boss, and if they shrunk the map to make it more traversible (or strongly incentivize mages or dits for haste) it could be very fun.
>>737298265because they're fucking broken due to shit accuracy formula? Not making excuses for him but I got one to 15 since it had my starter gift stuff and it was awful, I couldn't take it anymore, made a mage and got to 20 in 5 hours.
>>737298205no humanoidsno nonsense chink oriental designs with a bunch of lines and swirls on them
>>737298265>If you don't fight zakum with a fruit knife you are a shitter
>>737267132Same for me except I'm worried about fighter. I mained fighter back in the day and I loved being a crusader, charging orbs to use panic and coma made it one of the most interesting characters to play. And as excited as I was to advance to hero, brandish just completely invalidates the playstyle of crusader and you just become a discount dragon knight, spamming the same attack that hits 3 targets except it's faster. It's dull compared to 3rd job. Page pretty much feels like you're playing 2nd job the entire game, since blast is essentially power strike, and charged blow is slash blast. You're also encouraged to limit yourself to training against monsters with elemental weaknesses. But heaven's hammer seems neat and I like how they have tanky skills. I think I'd still prefer that over brandish spam.
>>737298473Plenty of 40+ warriors. He's the only one who switched off. KWAB
>>737298518lemme switch to mage first doe dis shit ass class bugged y'all
>>737274730>richyou mean lower-middle class?
>>737298609Why would you stay on an objectively worse class when you just want to experience the content? He sucks but it's not because the game is challenging, it's a bug. He literally plays a warrior.
>>737271532They get teleport in second job which makes them way more mobile than anyone else. 3rd job is probably their worst because they just feel weak. Their damage still wasn't great in 4th job but they were broken at grinding since their screen clearing attacks had no cooldown and were just very MP potion heavy. Especially the bishop since skellies was the best training spot and they were weak to holy.
>>737298332Guardian angel slime would be a perfect boss for classic, if you remove the map gimmicks you barely have to change his actual attacks to make him fit in, just add ropes to the arena and you already have a pretty engaging boss that rewards team work while not being that complex either. You'd have to manage the slime summons while also trying to control where the boss teleports so you can try and hit him from above instead of being on the same platform. He's basically just an upgraded king slime
>>737272461Weird that it's assassins of all classes who get a main attack skill that has life leech, enough that you pretty much never have to use HP potions. Considering they're one of the best at avoiding damage to due their avoid, mobility, and range. Spearman's final attack also has life leech but unless you play really defensively I doubt it's going to keep you topped off the way drain does.
>>737298854I think the map gimmicks would serve to benefit the fight ESPECIALLY in classic, honestly. It makes it so people can't solo (the death of maple), and you HAVE to have either a bandit or a mage with you.
>>737266071All I want is to idle somewhere and chit chat with random people.But in modern days, that's impossible.
>>737298045>Local flash game aggregator websites spread the demo around and it got popular.I had no clue there was a maple demo lol. Thanks for the explanation, very interesting stuff. I always wondered why specifically maple was so popular with them, cause it was the first time I'd ever heard of an israeli before
>>737298725Filtered into playing baby mode just like he's doing in numaple. Nigga ran like a bitch from any challenge.
>>7372990512000s were a revolution of internet connectivity across the planet, a LOT of countries in SEA and eastern europe were getting online around the time maple came out, so it really came out the gate running.
>>737298854No one has upjump in Classic so the test would be impossible. Terrible suggestion.
>>737298519I'm fine with power strike and slash blast, though I wish slash blast was back to 6 instead of 4, felt a bit rough in the beta at times especially with the invincibility time being lower.. I also have no experience with 3rd/4th jobs plus Nexon may change them up with Paladin potentially having more changes than Hero.Maybe I'll just flip a coin at 30 in launch.
>>737299080What challenge?Again, I'm asking what the challenge is here, sit and miss 100 times to kill a mob? What's the challenge.
>>737279423Yes, it's shitty as it sounds. It essentially will take you at least 5 minutes to fully heal your HP and MP. With the HP aspect being worthless when you have drain. This why I have no faith in skills being balanced, they can't even do basic math.
>>737298992I'll call you a nigger all day in guild chat once we get full release bro
>>737299127The challenge of playing a warrior over mage you little dumbfuck zoomer cancer.
>>737299113>remove the map gimmicksI'm literally saying to remove the portal mechanic entirely and just make it a fight against the slime itself. No weird damage resistance/hp regen, no test, no lasers or rocks that stun you etc
>>737275348Critical recovery is worthless, and you don't need to max claw booster since even at level 1 you get 100 seconds. 300 seconds at max is overkill.
>>737299183WHYISTHATACHALLENGEstop repeating the same fucking thing you stupid nigger
>>737299192We already have King Slime that does that. I'd rather have a new boss that's original and not a cucked nuple boss.
>>737266071Gaming is so dead zoomers are playing maple story in 2026.
>>737299243Why numaplepedos so violent?
>>737299259>He's basically just an upgraded king slimeDid you really need to reply to me when I literally already said that in my original post
>>737299243Mages have the easiest time leveling to 50, switching off warrior to a mage is bitchmode
>>737299384And that is a challenge how? What challenge does a warrior face that a mage does not?
Give it to me straight bros. Could I find a maple gf?
>>737299505in the beta? noin release? no, but you can find a "gf" (a chinese or mexican pretending to be a girl to get money from you)the key will be how fast they try to move you to discord.
>>737299505You'd have a much easier time if you are gay and want a maple bf instead
>>737284690>and in fact magic claw scales better so it does eventually out damage cold beam and fire arrow.Never made a made back when they used the "basic attack" description in skills. How would magic claw eventually out damage cold beam and fire arrow? Don't those skills have a much higher "basic attack" than magic claw?
>>737299505No because you're probably a pedo and won't accept hags
the first balrog killing party
>>737299797How the fuck do you rebalance the entire game but still end up with mages and sins being the best classes by far?
>>737299797They really should get rid of f3 it's the most cringe overused emote in the game
>>737267132trust me, you will give up and become a mage/thief.
>>737285091>>737285121>100% damage against 3 enemieswhat the FUCK were they thinking? It would be different if the final attack was almost instant but on archers it's just slightly faster than your normal attacks. It's shit whether you're using power shot/double shot or bomb arrow.Though not nearly as bad on fighters, I think their final attack is also pretty shit. 180% x 3 enemies is good if you're using slash blast, which only hits 4 enemies for 130% now, but it's fucking useless on power strike because you have no use for a mob attack follow up when you're using a single target attack. Which is a pretty big deal for crusaders who will be using power strike till 120. And yet people are defending it because no one is bothering to do the math.
>>737299871because they didn't fucking rebalance anything, they changed some skills. Accuracy is literally WORSE than it was back in the day, mages are the ONLY viable class until sins hit 40.
>>737299991I'm not a bitch like Kobe. Warrior main playing mage Lmfao. Pussy ass nigga .
>>737300123You will eat those words when the full release hits
>>737295859Extra line of damage is lame and not in line classic Maple, but FA was never as good or flashy on archer anyway. They could just made it randomly fire an extra arrow with no delay, or just make it far faster.
>>737300028>Which is a pretty big deal for crusaders who will be using power strike till 120btw the solution to this is just to give crusaders another skill that isn't power strike
>>737299797>4 mage + 1 range thiefIs archer bad?
>>737299901>They really should get rid of f3 it's the most cringe overused emote in the game
>>737285223I have little faith in them. The game has been in development for how long now? And we're so close to release now yet they have most retarded balancing on some skills that make that them worthless, when it it only requires basic math to see why. I don't care about the balance between classes so much as I care about the mentality behind making skills so useless.
>>737299797when I said I wanted the classic experience I didn't mean I wanted mages and sins to still be the best classes...
>>737300169They do, they get panic and coma. No need to ruin the point of classic and throw in brandish for 3rd job and completely invalidate the point of crusader's gameplay.
>>737300316at LEAST 1 year, almost 3 if we believe what they said in the announce video, and they missed extremely basic shit.0 hope. Interested because it could still be fun with a good population, but I don't think it lasts more than a couple months after people hit high levels and normalfags get bored of grinding because it's too slow and we moved away from slow grinding because people hated it and quit because it was TOO FUCKING SLOW BACK THEN TOO
>>737299901Found the "LOL I'M HECKIN CRRRRAZY AND ANGRY" F5fag.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Lmt2FhLYd0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9sO6Fk3a6ISo what do we think
>>737300405>mobbing should be agony on crusader because... BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT WAS IN THE OLD GAME!!!!!they're already changing and rebalancing shit. giving crusader a mobbing skill will not destroy the job's identity like you're insinuating it will.
>>737300316Honestly this closed test has brought down my hopes for this game quite a lot. I don't know what I expected since it's Nexon like yeah sure, but still. Some of the stuff doesn't seem too time consuming and hard to fix, but current state of the game is a bit confusing to me. More and more information that I get from watching and reading stuff, the more I get worried.I don't know. I want to stay optimistic instead of just shitting on everything as I do want this game to be good, but they have got to get some changes in.>>737300498I like the Bygone Garden one quite a bit. I'm still salty I didn't get in as even if the current state of the game isn't exactly the best, would've still had fun trying it out.
>>737300123>this much hubris for the arduous road aheadyou will fold.
>>737300498Looks like it's going to be more mechanically challenging than any numaple boss. Big win for Classic.
>>737299991I'm autistic so I'll be fine.
what is the order of most to least popular class in the original maplestory. was it thief>mage>bowman>warrior?
>>737300725>more mechanically challenging>IT JUMPS>and then it hops around>AND THEN IT JUMPS AGAINlmfaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooonumaple is shit but let's not just lie
>>737300846How many bosses in numaple can jump?
>>737300990most of the ones in arcane river, so like 75% of them, and the older ones are from classic.
>>737298519except that hero is superior to dragon knight
>>737301075Never saw an Arcane River boss jump before. Looks like Classic will have be more mechanically challenging than anything in nu-maple.
>>737301075The fuck are you talking about, not a single boss in maplestory currently has a regular jump as part of their movement. No the boss teleporting or having a visual jump attack is not the same as them jumping like mobs used to do in classic. Also arcane river isn't even the vast majority of bosses and it never has been.
>>737274730Eastern euros played Lineage 2, Tibia is a German thing.
>>737301331tibia is a brazil/south american thing
>>737301273>those damage numberslook, I love numbers going up too, but I like seeing how much damage I'm dealing, not that shit
>>737301331nah. eastern eu's played tibia and metin 2
>>737301363That's just a korean thing since they use a different system to shorten numbers, it's very much readable in GMS
>>737301273no classic boss has a"regular" jump either, they have an attack jump.And that's something will has, lucid has, dunkel has, limbo, kalos, I don't think kaling does, adversary does, even the new cw3 exclusive boss does...
>>737299871other classes are fundamentally fucked, and the reworks they would require are one of 2 options:a) change the core concept of the class and introduce multiple new skillsb) buff skill damage by a fuck tonthey can't do option "a" because it would hurt nostalgia (classic's main selling point) and also increase dev costs (even more so for the long term when more job advancements release and they'll need to fit them to the new class concepts).and they are too afraid to do option "b" and accidentally make the classes unbalanced in the long term (also applies to option "a").in other words, they are too cowardly to change the game.
What mage is best for lv30?
>>737301543The question is how many of them can "jump" and it looks like none of them can, which makes Rotten Mushmom more mechanically challenging than anything in nu-maple.
>>737302025My mom can jump and yours is too fat so she can't which makes modern maplestory more challenging than anything in classic
>>737302104Your mom is doing a "jump attack" which is just her fat ass teleporting ontop of the player. Mushmom can actually jump, a mechanic which no nupler ever experienced before yet still dares call their version "mechanically challenging".
>>737274730tibia... the only mmo worth existing
HAHAHA New maple bosses are KEKED and CANT JUMPhow EMBARASSING
>>737302278What the fuck is this boss doing? I can't seem to figure out its pattern, I better watch a 1 hour Duky video explaining how to counter its mechanics. I've never seen these mechanics in the game before.
>>737300154>but FA was never as good or flashy on archeIt isn't "not as good" but dog shit that would soft brick your character if you ever wanted to use Arrow Bomb or Iron Arrow and you had a 60% to get animation locked at places like Deep Ludi. Was always better to never invest any points because the only positive FA had was "an attack that didn't use mana". Otherwise it would animation lock you when you would want to move on a class that dies in two hits, and uses an attack that would be weaker than the one you were just using.
classicers will shit their pants when they see how mechanically challenging Idle RPG is
I have been asking this for years but why does it take so long to deploy a rebaked version of a very old MMO? To say hype fatigue is setting in would be an understatement by this point.
What's the most fun class?
>enter thread>keylets still seething
>>737302883Golden Temple came out in 2007 in Thailand
>>737303138depends on what you want>warrior go to enemy and punch him>archer has to position himself the best he can>thief a lil bit of both>mage explode everything and it's like playing with godmode
>>737303138well, for this test the only class that doesn't have to deal with an exceptional amount of retarded damage kneecapping to be able to hit enemies is mage, so mage right now.Assuming they fix the accuracy shit, warriors have the most unique mechanics to engage with. Pretty much everything else is "Here's your damage" and "here's your utility".
when does warrior start getting bad? I keep hearing about missing enemies and shit, I haven't miss a single enemy at lvl 15, there is literally a skill designed for that you brainlets
>>737303817and what's your dex? If it's above 10 at that level you've lost a tremendous amount of damage to be able to hit consistently.
after seeing that Jr. Balrog boss party, I'm starting to think the autist seething over Magic Guard had a good point...
>>737303946IT'S LITERALLY HOW THE FUCKING GAME ALWAYS WORKED HOLY SHIT YOU ZOOMERS ARE RETARDEDhere is a guide from 2007 on gamefaqs
>>737304080Yes?I'm saying that's a bad thing, you fucking retard.If they're "fixing" other shit like heal and holy arrow they should "fix" accuracy being slopgarbage designed to neuter physical classes.
>>737304120>I am a baby tourist and want classic but not actually classic
>>737300316This will be like the MS2 release. Everyone was hyped and having fun in the beta tests but the moment the actual game released, no one cared anymore.
>>737304543wow it's almost like they completely changed the entire game for the worse with the full release.
>>737304147then don't get upset when mages are the only class anyone plays ESPECIALLY after they gutted hb.
>>737304147If you want real "classic" maple then you would be playing shitty private servers. Nexon has already said it's not trying to be the same exact fucking game because it sucked.
>>737300809Warrior was more popular than Bowmen on the virtue that Dragon Knight exists.
one week in and the nostalgia is already wearing off huh?
>>737305148mostly cope by losers who don't have a key.
>>737299871There fundamental problems with other classes trying to do Jr. Balrog. Warriors can tank a hit but don't have the accuracy. Bandits will have better accuracy but have low HP. Archers can attack from a range and has the accuracy but are locked into place while firing which can be death if the boss advances so the archer is in range. Mages don't seem to worry about accuracy and they can tank hits with magic guard. Assassin has the accuracy and they can keep their distance by jumping away from the boss and throwing stars at it to maintain the distance.In 3rd job Chief Bandits get Meso Guard which fixes their survivability problem. In OSMS Puppet is what archers use to kill bosses that one shot them. I expect Meso Guard to be a thing, but OSMS Puppet has never been done since. Private servers Puppets are slightly jank, especially when Gobies are involved. Post Big Bang made the Puppet do something functionally different. Any Maplestory Worlds iteration of Puppet is far from what it's use for (Artale makes it so it reduces damage by a percentage... if you're in a certain proximity to the Puppet).So for some classes it's okay for this to happen because it's likely that they'll have the tools to make up for their short comings. Other classes not so much.
>>737305547>meso guard>when the economy is already this badmelees always be losing
>>737305680With more points into Meso Guard it reduces the amount of mesos it consumes while still shaving off a bunch of damage. So at higher levels it saves you money.
>>737305547actually if you watch the kill the one sin barely has the accuracy to actually hit the jr balrog in the first place, he's just there for aggro control so he can bait the boss back to the right so the mages can keep kiting. So even the traditional tank/aggro role of a warrior is being handled by a fucking sin instead. Warriors and Archers are just straight up useless bricks in this version they excel at literally nothing.
>>737305148the only people posting on the thread a keylets, those with keys are playing
>>737300609Coma would do like 16k damage up to 6 enemies around the time you maxed it. No other class doing those kinds of numbers at the time and it felt special. Ideally they would make panic and coma still worth using once you had brandish. Where is the character's identity when they make those skills useless, how is brandish any different than dragon crusher?
>less than a week in and people already want to kill endgamemin maxing was a mistake, streaming was a mistake
>>737305794Archers were always a solo class. Using Puppet for bossing really drives that point home since you can't have boss aggro shifted off of you for Puppet to function. Warriors always had tough shit when trying to kill monsters 30 levels above them. They aren't an Archer going to a zone 15 levels above them, they need to be closer in level because part of building a warrior is threading the line in just needing enough accuracy while maximizing your damage.
>>737305978>Ideally they would make panic and coma still worth using once you had brandishYou're not doing that. To make a new main skill for 3rd job means it has to be superior to Power Strike and Slash Blast. And it has to be much better than those two skills to be worth it. Then if that's the case why are you consuming your damage multiplier on a finisher rather than keeping a high multiplier on a skill that's better than power strike?
>>737305547at levels 70+ who cares that's the intended level. The point of the matter is twofold:why are mages capable of hitting something 30-40 levels above them with no particular accuracy hit and able to bypass magdef, it's an issue for any worldboss vs an instanceboss because mages can just camp it forever.
>>737304543The appeal of MapleStory was being a 2D MMO RPG with charming aesthetics, and to this day there is still nothing equivalent to it aside from really obscure MMOs no one knows exists. No shit people didn't care about a generic 3D weeb MMO that was shamelessly made to look like Minecraft with the hideous blocky environments, just because minecraft was big at the time, which wasn't popular because of its ugly blocky visuals. I hated MapleStory 2 the moment I saw it, and by time I waited for it to release in the US to try it out it was already shut down.
>>737306319You are fucking retarded btw
>>737306173That's my reasoning for why I dislike what they did with 4th job. What is the point of the combo orbs anymore if you never use them because you want the large damage buff to benefit brandish? Ideally they could adjust the skill so you get a damage buff regardless of your orb count so that there is no downside to using coma and panic. If I wanted to play a braindead character that just uses one skill I would have gone with the dragon knight.
>>737306368struck a nerve? everything I said is right and all you can do is insult me, that means I win haha loser.
>>737306657>If I wanted to play a braindead character that just uses one skillBrother this is maplestory
>>737306657Yeah, that's why I never went beyond level 100 on my Crusader. Hero was such a bland class while saving and expending orbs was fun with a Crusader. Especially at maps like goby.
>>737303138I think Buccaneer is very fun, but we're not getting Pirates...
>>737307126Not at the start but it's crazy to think they won't put pirates in.
>>737307217When they do, will they make the gunslinger branch not the most miserable class to play?
>>737307281Based on the tests so far, they'll be fucked like every physical class.
>>737307304They were fucked in OSMS. I'm asking if they will actually make them viable before 4th job.
>>737307370Every single class that isn't mage is fucked rn so no.
>>737307217pirates don't bring too much new things to the table to justify its existence. Hell before they were released you can wear pirate lookin outfits for thief
>>737307414Literally half the existing classes already feel like they have no justification for existing, who fucking cares
>>737298475Basically just no "story bosses". Almost all the bosses released in the last decade are bosses that relate to either the Black Mage or the person the Black Mage was preparing the player to fight, with the rest (outside of Guardian Slime) being related to one of the jobs.>Tons of humanoids because the Black Mage recruited a bunch of dudes to work as his generals>People complain about how everybody's just a dude>Post-Black Mage bosses are now working for the real big bad>His generals are also all humanoids, but this time they transform into non-humans for the fightI miss when bosses were the result of actual in-game lore like Balrog or Zakum or Pap. Just a bunch of dangerous entities locked away or hiding somewhere that you encounter.
>>737302942Because it's usually never really as simple "revert code to this point in time". 1. Even if they were purely just reverting to 2006/whatever code, there's probably some system & graphics APIs and libraries that need updating because of Windows2. Porting in *some* of the features from numaple (accessibility, more graphics options, Linux compatibility, more cheat-detection, etc) takes effort3. Fixing bugs that old MS had4. Their own changes (skills, new zone)5. Their networking infrastructure has probably changed a fair bit since 20065. All of the above can then change their database layout, so queries have to be updated. Also networking & message packing/unpacking. Prob a bunch of other shit too. All of that isn't a MASSIVE task, but they're also not going to be throwing a lot of devs at this either, or wanting their best devs to be spending all their time on this, so this is what you get.
>>737307485>Literally half the existing classes in NUMAPLEwhich is why they should be more strict in choosing which classes return or which should be extensions to a pre existing class
>>737308291I'm talking about classic retard
why are there so many jews playing
>>737280652core 2 duo didn't exist until 2 years after wow release, you were probably suffering through a pentium 4 for a while
>>737308484>four classes is a lotbro, can you count?
>>737309151there's 10, brother.can YOU?
>>737309136you know they all bought their codes too
>bought a key>ebay declined my refund request>submit charge back with card>approved in 24hyum yum yumeat a dick chinese botfarmers.
26-year-old zoomer who's never played MapleStory before in my life. I'm currently in the closed beta and honestly I'm having a blast so far all of it is super addictive. I'm already planning to put in serious hours when the game fully releases.I tried Warrior and got it up to level 16, but it felt kinda weak and clunky. Not sure if that's normal or if I'm doing something wrong. For someone with zero experience, what are the most important things I should know about MapleStory Classic?Also, what classes would you recommend for a total beginner? I'm looking for ones that feel strong and fun throughout the game. Any tips would be appreciated, especially if Warrior (Specifically Dark Knight or Paladin) gets better later or if I should try something else. Thanks!
>>737310692>what are the most important things I should knowDon’t make a warrior
>>737310087>buying a key when there’s 3 days left
>>737310849I bought a key on the 18th, not too far after the second wave came out.It's not like it takes more than 5 hours to get to 15 to get the cosmetics, but I mostly wanted to experience playing it with other people again like it was really 2005. The only time any game is good is the first opportunity you have to play, anything after is sloppified with minmaxing datamining and other shit. The unbridled stupidity of the audience is what makes things fun. It was worth possibly losing $150, though I didn't even need to in the end.
>>737310692Warriors are weak and clunky until 3rd job.Their whole thing is having (relatively) high survivability while acting as a support until then. They can still do some good damage, but they're slow and lack range and despite their defenses, can still die in four to five hits compared to everyone else dying in two to three. They're basically magikarps since they become insane later but that later is impossible in Maplestory Classic currently since it only goes up to 2nd job.
>>737308163They have billions of dollars so this is trivialPrivate server owners have done so much more with literally no cash
>>737266071streamer free version when?
>>737310692Expect to be paying for a player store(leave character logged in afk with this) or remote shop(open and leave this shop while you can play around). Pet with all the upgrades will be more or less the hidden subscription fee and is also required. AP/SP resets will also cost real money so it is good to keep up with information on and during launch. That goes for a lot of things and is easier to say when we actually have the game out and playable. Untill then everything is just based on experiences from how it used to be or how private servers showcased the flow of the game and theorizing what Nexon could do.It's hard to say from this closed test information alone and without having any knowledge of what happens in the future and 3rd job and 4th job changes/balance. I'd say warriors are a pretty safe pick regardless and they kind of come alive in 3rd and 4th job and just stay as a comfortable, yet slow class. I feel warrior is a pretty good beginner class just because it kind of just works, especially much later on when looking into the future and having played a character for like 500h.All of these could change of course, but I believe warrior with their safe HP pool and solid progress in general even if slow is just a good pick even when going to the unknown of future updates.
>>737289247I see myself in this image f6
>>737311248>Private server owners have done so much more with literally no cashlollmao
>>737302883Wtf is that retarded animation, and why does it have nu-maple skill effects?
>>737312575it's maple idle, an idle game where you still have to pay money to roll potential so it's incredibly fucking expensive.Also the focus of a recent lawsuit (another one) because some potential groupings were impossible to get with one another, and that wasn't communicated anywhere so some KR whales spent like $15,000 trying to get perfect equips and physically could not.
>all these idiots choosing mages and sinsfools, they'll never know the meta of snipe only maps
>>737312575Maplestory Idle RPG is incredibly schizophrenic, all the areas and mobs are from old maple and it has the og 4 explorers only but they all have their modern skills up to 4th job, the modern scrolling/starforce upgrade systems and also numbers go insanely high way higher than the real game.
>>737314115What are you smoking? They have pathfinder and AB and DS and shit.
>>737314334You are thinking of maple M you fucking retard, Idle RPG doesn't have those.
>>737314641the classes' canon outfits look so good
>>737298683Families like that weren't throwing money around. Not even middle class families really. It's only now with the annoying revisionism that people think 20 years ago everyone in the west was playing life on easy mode
>>737296847>coomer with bad opinionsNever in a million years would I have guessed
>>737314641>>737314782>FlickI/L-chan's pink bean>ShootEverything inside XBowmaster
>>737315226Can't wait for the overcorrection and ensuing seethe
>>737310087wait why did ebay deny your refund request? i almost bit the bullet and bought a 400 dollar code but someone got it before me. i thought ebay would always side with the buyer especially in cases where you are buying a digital code. you can just say the code didn't work and there would be no way for them to know
warriors need something better than power strike or slash blast in 2nd job and pkb needs a real buff i think ground smash is a balanced and faithful skill
>>737314782those class and boss packages are like the best thing nexon has ever added to the cash shop. Just wish they stopped having them only in the shop temporarily or having you buy multiple at a time only but nexon gotta FOMO
>>737266219yeah pretty much, im white but my friends in school were korean and filipino so we all played maple
are people really buying codes i didnt need to buy minejust be lucky br0ther
>>737269569she thinks you need to be a milioneire to date her
>>737315226Someone was mad about Archers having no jump shotting but even on v62/v83 private servers this was barely a thing or completely fucking niche at best. Hell I recall even before Ludibrium jumpshotting was so frustrating to do, that it wasn't worth trying to play like a shitty sin.
>>737315643add rush to second job for mobility and survivabilityadd power stance to second job to ignore knockbackand really they just need to add mobs that are harder to kill than being 1~3 shot and have lower mob density for warriors to shine
>>737316082I lost both waves + instagram giveaway + 10 streamer faggot giveaways
>>737316597I personally just find it to be dissapointing as bow whacking is a disadvantage, but where is the advantage. Having longer range isn't necessarily a big deal in a lot of situations unless it allows you to snipe from safe spots which is alright. Currently I just think what is the reason to have bow whacking deal low damage and needing to max it and even then it's 4 monsters max. Assassins smooth by with jumping around and due to claws being faster aswell it makes claw punching not really an issue unless in absolutely packed tight maps. Mages can just attack at any range on top of also having mobility similar to assassin. So the requirement to deal with bow whack just seems dissapointing.
>>737295609>competeYou're doing the same mindless task with no skill or real growth involved
>>737301609Private servers have done much more without having millions of dollars. What a worthless corporation
>>737316701Forgotten Hollow should have been the low level LHC equivalent with super high hp mobs but buffed up party exp.
>>737314782Warriors look really generic but not much to work with for their archetype so I'll barely give em a pass.Mages are fantastic, probably the consistently best ones of the bunch.Archers are great but Pathfinder just fucking sticks out like a sore thumb.Thieves I think are great, though I think Shadower is a bit too generic.Pirates are fantastic although Cannoneers hair is pink instead of white for some reason.>>737316921Bow whacking should probably just be removed entirely, it's not fun to deal with and if archers have to remain stationary to shoot then they're already disadvantaged by default unlike sins which is fine.
>>737317181This is retarded to ask but LHC is Lion Heart Castle right?
>>737316921I think bow whacking is fine in the context of being able to move enemies away from you. Now of course being able to physically move away is better but if there were more uses to knocking back enemies, I think it'd be a fine quirk and weakness to bowmen.Like imagine a small room where you can't tele or jump away so you are forced to take damage, but bowmen are able to swat the enemies away a safe distance to attack them
who /mapleclassic/ here
>>737315226idk if bandits are broken like assassinassassin however is so much better than archer it doesn't make sense why do they get the ability to jumpshoot (aka move while attacking, and better vertical range) but also do more damage on top of thatlike what is the solution here, the only one that would make sense without making anyone too mad is buffing archer dmg a fuckton
>>737317335Yeah. That era of people party grinding at LHC was super comfy. What made it great wasn't just that it was a group of 6 random fucknuts killing random mobs around a large map completely ignorant of each other, but because the mobs had such high HP you were better off taking on a single monster with multiple people at a time.Also I know people are super nostalgic about pre-bb being slow as fuck, but most people never actually got to 3rd/4th job back in the day until after big bang. Meanwhile everyone here is talking about class balance with 4th job in mind as if most of these fucks are even going to hit level 120
>>737317335yes
>>737317272I'll play archer regardless and I don't mind if bow whack is in. I just do not understand the idea behind it as both assassin and all mages just play the ranged playstyle, but like better. Even with safe snipe spots I feel it's a niche thing at best and competing to find an empty snipe map isn't exactly going to be easy or fun either. Just from watching a ton of footage from the closed test shows that the range advantage on archers isn't just worth it or that important at all. Assassins and mages can close the gap easily and fast without an issue anyways so it just falls back to sniping spots being the only thing that would matter.If they want to keep bow whack I'd say they really need to look at power knockback again in terms of speed/damage/max ammount of monsters knockbacked or come up with something to make the gameplay actually feel more smooth. Currently it just looks like a clunky thing that you need to do while thinking if I played assassin or mage I wouldn't have to bother with this at all.>>737317406I do think if knockback just worked better and was inserted into the rhythm better it would be, well better. I can immediately imagine different situations where you don't knockback all the enemies or one of them is behind you and you have to do another power knockback and hope the slow added on the enemies is enough to kill them fast enough to not have to power knockback again. I don't think archers are unplayable or anything, but it's already showing in terms of how many archers there are playing. It is not going to work if they launch it in a similar state and archers will end up being barely played unless future buffs/changes would make it worth dealing with this.
>>737317181I played a pserver some years back that made Elin forest into that, I can't remember if it was croosade or not but it was pretty comfy. I believe it was from the mid 50s to 7x
>>737317438apparently no one because everyone's just looking for ways to strip each class of their identities>archers w/o bow-whack>warriors with early mobility>mages with accuracy problems and no magic guard>thieves with nah nevermind keep them as they are
>>737317972What class identity, being a fucking useless brick?
>>737318134>femhero has twin tailstruly the worst timeline
>>737317972being shit at everything isn't an identity. give shittier classes more emphasis on what they are actually supposed to specialize in.
>classic uncs picking the worst class to spend the next hundreds of hours of their life grinding just to realize it sucks ass
streamers really couldn't even milk classic for a full week?
>>737316597>or completely fucking niche at bestIt's not. Obviously you aren't an Archer main and know little about archers. Even if when you jump shoot the shot is from the point in which you were first on the ground, it still allows you to shoot and cover ground. This is useful in all of Levels 10~79. When it comes to higher level areas you can use jump shot to jump over projectiles that Death Teddies or Vikings shot as well. None the less there are points in which you want to jump shoot and AE/AR and go from one point to the other to aggro a whole platform.Was jump shooting harder to do as an Archer? Yes. Were the applications niche? You're a non-player thinking that having range and constantly being mobile is just a niche case when it's a lot more powerful to increase kill speed or general getting around the map.
>>737317606>the only one that would make sense without making anyone too mad is buffing archer dmg a fucktonSins get salty about archers getting Sharp Eyes and insult them by saying they're a Sharp Eyes mule when they're the ones dependant on another classes skills to be good in 4th job while most other classes are good on their own.
The game is way too easy now. I no-lifed grinding today and leveled from 22-33.
>>737318878me when I pick the priest, leveling up healing only to never use it on potion starved warriors or teammates
>>737315226Swap warriors and archers. Warriors got a ton of cool toys and most of their "suffering" is just normal 2nd job meta leaving melee classes more or less in the dust. Archers on the other hand actually feel bad to play, they have like no downward angle on their arrows so they can't even hit shit that sins and mages can.
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