I see why everyone calls people who like Space Wolves either furries or fags after seeing Ulfar.
Space Wolves and Blood Angels are pretty gay
>>737269168The fact that the VA trooned out is hilarious to meWhat the hell
>>737269671>mindbroken after being tortured in Commoragh by gay bdsm elvesMaybe he got too in character.
>>737269168shut up
>>737269168Russ return when? fucking launch your new shit GW
>>737269168Is there any primarch that wasnt a full blown neurodivergent?Even the emperor acted like an autist
>>737270454a while, next primarch is Perturabo
>>737270508>Perturabohe hasnt been missing, he's just remaking his sister and destroying her nonstop in the warp
>>737270482Horus(pre-fall), Sanguinius, Gulliman, Jaghatai, Corvus Corax I think
>>737270454Dorn is coming back
>>737270576>he hasnt been missingHe's been missing from the current setting, and now he's back and will get a model in the next edition
>>737270482a character can only really be as smart as the writer is, so I guess no, they were all retarded
>>737270482Alpharius and/or Omegon may have been pretending all along, and still be, maybe.
I'm a cuck
>>737270628I wouldn't mind that desu, but where the fuck has been all this time?
>>737269627i dont get the blood angels fanboys, is it just sanguinius? as a chapter they're just retarded vampires
>>737270729mastering how to goon with his arm stump
>>737270482>Is there any primarch that wasnt a full blown neurodivergent?Yes, the Khan. Thought carefully about the Emperor's retardation, then thought equally carefully about Horus's, decided that Big E was the lesser of two evils. Slapped everyone's shit, then left for Commoragh to do drugs, ride jetbikes and clap eldar cheeks.
>Perturabo is back>Fulgrim is back>Angron can reform in like a week>Mortarion is probably gonna be let out by nurgle soon>Magnus is around doing god knows what>Meanwhile loyalists only have gulliman and the lionImperiumsissies....I think we're in the wolf times now...
>>737269168routfags are some of the most annoying faggots in the community, right up there next to taufags.
>>737270789Khan still being loyal because he knew what Horus was doing was wrong but seeing the bleakness of fighting against a brother he loved for a father he did not give a shit about was sad.
>>737270709Jaebro...Yrlietbro...
>>737270508jaghatai khan when
>>737269168Wolves were cool when they just were vikings who loved to fight and drink. Now GW has turned them into a bunch of bestiality-themed cretins. Worse than Ultramarines.Blood Angels also got hit by the retard hammer and went from balls-to-the-wall raging berserkers who enjoyed painting and classical music in their free time to some sort of late Roman homosexual blood fetishists.
>>737270789I thought he only remained loyal because he made a life oath to the emperor and he values loyalty an oaths to an autistic level
You know, technically, even dead primarchs can make a return as warp entities of some sort, there were some stories of Ferrus Manus and Sanguinius still kicking in the warpAnd after the last book of the HH came out, the Emperor seems to imply that even Horus could come back, but clean this time
>>737271209isn't sanguinus already back?I remember him saving dante once
>>737271045>"My father's truth is His truth. It is not my truth," said the Khan. "Every truth is a lie to someone. I am the son of the storm as much as I am the son of the Emperor. You are not the first to try to sway me, but if the thunder in my heart will not be tamed by my father, then it will not be tamed by my brother, either. I choose my own path.">Xyrokles shook his head. "You're on the wrong side. The Emperor lied. He used us all.">"That is what you believe," said the Khan. "Rightness in a war is relative, as is truth. I choose to be loyal to the Emperor's ideal even if I do not believe in His truth. You are a traitor to all mankind." He smiled again. "In the end, I won, and you have lost, that is all matters here. I thank you for the contest of wills". The Khan dipped his head.
>>737270806I'm still mad they made Perturabo into a daemon prince. He seemed like the least likely to ever give himself up to chaos with all his pride. Especially after his brothers who fell to chaos fucked him over.So stupid. He was one of the most interesting primarchs and then he just gives in going against his entire character.
>>737271290Sounds like the Khan was one of the few if not the only one that understood the Emperor's vision was for all of mankind, even if some of the things the Emperor said might have been questionable, to choose chaos was to betray humankind, there was no way to sugar coat it, Horus and the rest were just too retarded to see it
>>737271432I don't think he's a daemon prince in the classic sense of the word, aka selling your ass entirely to Chaos God(s). He just stewed in warp juice for far too long, playing legos on Medrengard. Then again, it has been emphasized many times in the lore that the best servants of the gods are those who think they have free will and deny the warp. Think Ahriman.
>>737271487>Horus and the rest were just too retarded to see itHe got fucked by Erebus and put into a chaos ritual. Retards are primarchs like Fulgrim and Konrad.
>>737271563No he's a daemon prince of chaos undivided now iirc, just like Lorgar.
>>737270709We know camking
>>737270987After Peter Turbo
>>737271575Speaking of, I nabbed some amazing Johnsonian Heresy artwork. All the loyal primarchs turned traitor, all the traitors remained loyal.
>>73726916840k is woke dei slop going thru the same changes that warcraft did to appeal to heckin family friendly values, foids and troids
>>737271663
>>737271740>>737271663kino
Pauldron creep hit this franchise so hard lol
>>737271724Chaos corruption was always inevitable.
>>737271575Fulgrim was also possessed, mind youI'd say the most retarded of all was Lorgar, the others that weren't possessed kind of just followed based on some petty grudge they had with the Emperor, and Konrad was just so convinced that his visions were inevitable futures that he just went along with it instead of changing anything, he was retarded too, but didnt really believe in chaos, he just wanted to prove his visions were right lol
>>737269168>WOLFBROTHER WOLFEN YIFFBRIGADE: WOLF WOLF WOOFPRIEST EDITION.They don’t do themselves any favours.
>>737271848Fulgrim was possessed then regained control and become extra retarded.
>>737269168>A genuinely interesting companion and quest, and more importantly a somewhat reasonable Space Marine>Muh faggots muh furriesYou people are insufferable
>>737270729He’s spent the last 9.5k years having an autistic spergout because Peter cucked him and his Dad’s dead.He’ll look pretty sick with the Emperor’s lightning claw on his stump though.
>>737270806Mortarion and Magnus are already out and about. They both have whole Chaos Empires in real space now. Mortarion's is bordered by Ultramar and the T'au, and Magnus is bordered to Fenris. Angron is probably going to be coming out to Armageddon since that's starting up again. Despite getting a refresh Fulgrim and the Emperors children aren't seemingly up to anything particularly significant.
>>737271987>a man so autistic he repels the warpIt’s time.
>>737271663Outside of Horus and Magnus this is a pretty dogshit trade
>>737272130Perturabo is a net positive, he absolutely destroyed the Iron Fists anus during the siege.
>>737271993>Magnus is bordered to Fenris.Didn't he burn Fenris to the ground? I remember the furries getting fucked sideways when the entirety of Thousand Sons came out of the warp to camp on their planet. Did GW retcon it again?
>>737272130Horus and Magnus make the trade worth it. Don't forget Alpharius and Perty.
So in the ending of RT you basically get to have a c'tan shard? Lorewise isn't that shit like ludicrously overpowered?
>>737271993>Fulgrim and the Emperors children aren't seemingly up to anything particularly significant.they literally just have an endless orgy in the warp and dont really care about anything else
>>737271993>Fulgrim and the Emperors children aren't seemingly up to anything particularly significant.He's too busy doing fent with george floyd. Any time he gets in battle he leaves to go do some devious shit
>>737271663>Nurglite Khan>Tzeenchian RussMake it make sense
>>737271663Who the fuck is that top right?
>>737272309my thoughts exactly, whoever did that image just assigned chaos allegiance at random
>>737272353Ferrus, and yeah, it doesnt make sense he would align with Slaanesh
>>737272353Ferrus.>>737272309>>737272424I have no idea about the lore of that fanfic.
>>737272506I'm guessing the chaos choices were based on their 30K rivals. Khan and Morty, so Khan is nurgle.Magnus and Russ, Russ is Tzeench.That's the reasoning.
So you obsessed freaks even started making threads on other boards to try and troll me?
>>737272540>FerrusOh right, I always forget he existed.
>>737270987he's too based to returnremember when he called fulgrim a fag to his face?
does it feel good, worshipping chaos?
>>737272634Take your meds schizo.
>>737272202Nah, He attacked Fenris when Abaddon destroyed the Cadian pylons, during which Magnus also performed a ritual that pulled his Daemon world out of the rift and into real space near where Prospero. The Wolves got fucked and over half the chapter got killed, lost loads of their population in their major systems, Fenris was almost exterminatus'd but that was avoided at the last minute.
>>737272690IT IS A GOOD PAIN
>>737272798So the Planet of the Sorcerers is in realspace now, next to Fenris? Holy kek.
>>737272165>>737272258Then he gave up because the other Traitor Primarchs weren't fellating him enough over shit no one cared about. Then he acts sad he lost the Siege that he gave up on.
>>737270739Its Sanguinius and Dante being the eternal sufferer Chapter Master being endearing.Nobody gives a shit about them outside of The Black Rage aspect conceptually.Still more than the Iron Hands, so there's that.
>>737272202Nah, if it was gone then Fenris wouldn't be attacked every other week by salty thousand fags still upset over it being there and prospero not existing anymore.
>>737272930Relative to the scope of the Galaxy, yeah the systems are pretty much next to each other.
For me it's the Crimson Fists for favorite chapter and Orks for favorite xenos.
>>737269168>callsNo such thing as calling, they ARE furries. Space Furries. Space Fucking Furries, goddamnit.
>>737270482the whole point of rowboat is that hes the straight man and an actual functioning adult
>>737272963He was ignored and under minded by Horus. Horus gave Morty command over the siege and that was probably the last straw. This treatment was basically why he defected from the Emporer so he fucked off realizing it was the same shit but different smell
>>737269627Ravenguard and successors are the only American-coded chapters and therefore the only non-gay chapters.
>>737270739>is it just sanguiniusPretty much. Soloing like half the siege of terra left a good impression.
>>737273246He ain't coming back
>Why yes I main World Eaters. How did you know?!
Was expanding the Horus Heresy a mistake? There should not be a million fucking novels about the Siege of Terra.
>>737273284of course he isthe setting is rapidly devolving into HH 2.0
>>737273210>Raven GuardThe chapter so good at stealth that everyone forgot they even existed. Plus they're insufferable on a genetic level. Like that's their actual gene seed flaw.>Be a Super Soldier Shock Trooper>Don't like attacking unless you have every advantage possible>Serve the most despotic and abusive Tyrant in human history>Insist you're actually against Tyrants who abuse their people>As wannabe goody goodies like the Salamanders>Act like massive crybabies because how sad it is you sacrifice so much doing your job.
>>737272260>Is having a God in the palm of your hand OPYes, yes it is.
>>737273425>their shouldn't be a million novels on a key event that tore humanity apartI bet your faggot ass would complain that they elaborated on the war in heaven tooretard
>>737273425I liked the Siege of Terra series. The last 3 books were a bit dragged out, though.
>>737271290>>737270789Damn never realised what a logic chad the Khan is.
>>737273425Yes.
>>737273476Weak bait. Try again.
>>737273462Their successor, the Raptors, were cooler.
gw added niggers to the nordic faction
>>737273515Essentially, he was the only primarch who wasn't a manchild, a raging autist, or a crybaby bitch. He also knew and acknowledged he was a living weapon and nothing more. He didn't mope or rage about it, either.
>>737273476Ever since expanding the Horus Heresy, the entire lore of this fucking setting has only been PRIMARCHS, PRIMARCHS, AND MORE PRIMARCHS.The fact they're slowly bringing them back is also retarded, especially now that Dorn is hinted at coming back. They all should have been kept as legends.The only good thing to cone from this were the memes about Guilliman and Yvraine but that's it.
>>737273573>Get ass blasted down to a single company>"Hey what if we just refused to perform the primary tactical role marines are supposed to fulfill?">"WE'RE SO SMART AND TACTICOOL"
>>737273573nothing more stealthy than a 8ft man weighing over a ton in full gear moving around in a jungle
>>737273462>good at stealthI still chuckle at the idea of a 3-meter-tall roided-up superhuman wearing at least 5 tons of powered armor that hums and buzzes like a transformer substation, being "stealthy".
>>737273586>Salamanders stop being black and just become all sort of ethnicities but with black skin>Fenris becomes multi ethnic. Yeah, that was pretty funny
>>737273881>Salamanders stop being black and just become all sort of ethnicities but with black skinAlways have been.
>>737273945Not true. They didn't even have black skin a long time ago.
>>737273312I would like the World Eaters more if they weren't such giga jobbers
>>737273878With Primaris it's passable since they have the designated sneaky armor now but back in the day it was an incredibly retarded niche to try and fill in. It also added insult to injury to take Raven Guard and White Scars, who are generally in lore supposed to be the more careful and tactical thinking Marines, and put them up against Tau and just have them act like the most retarded "Cover is for the Weak" Marines
>>737273976Nigger, what the hell are you smoking? Salamanders have always been coal-black with red eyes.
>>737273447Now if only the game actually played like HH 2.0 lmao
>>737274040nta but iirc there's some rulebook(s) from the 80s where they're clearly white dudes
>>737273462>>737273573>Supposed to be the 'tactical' marines>Are just tacticool instead of practicalIt took a third party to do Space Marines justice.
>>737274040
>>737274143Damn, is that 3rd edition?
>>737274215Aye
>>737274106Pretty much. The Astartes guy took the idea behind the thematic idea behind the Raptors and applied it to the style of Warfare Marines are actually supposed to be doing.
>>737274106the overdesigned high tech weapons really ruin the aesthetic
>>737273573Mentors did it first.
>>737274346>the overdesigned high tech weapons really ruin the aestheticThe new fucking pointless wheel thing they've attached to every space marine gun pisses me off so much. Its especially bad in Space Marine 2, where everything has to 'spin up' to fire but WHY would you need it to do that to begin with?
>>737273116Are they still Space Spaniards or did they get retconned into something else now?
>>737270454>>737270508Can we stop bring back Primarchs pleaseThe only one I'd want is Ferrus Manus anyway so he can actually do stuff
>>737274493Last I checked no but I could be wrong so don't quote me on that.
Loyalist primarchs:>Chads>Had enough of your shit>Had enough of the imperium's shit, but still fights for itChaos Turdmarchs:>Crybabies>MUH DADDY ISSUES>Homosexual cucks to retarded gods >Job constantly
Well they are also niggers as well now so enjoy!
>>737270482Sanguinius's only flaw was that he was just too fucking perfect.
>>737274694>too perfect>jobs
>>737274765He was perfect at jobbing too
As a Nordic nordaboo, I find Space Wolves really gay too. A bunch of mead-drinking space marines seems retarded. Also, I usually get triggered by seeing black vikings, but when /v/ freaked out over seeing black space wolves I had to laugh. They're already a bunch of LARPers, why would anyone care if black people joined in on the LARP
>>737274765he knew jobbing was thematically the correct choice
>>737274857>A bunch of mead-drinking space marines seems retardedThis is fine. Adding in the furry shit though is just ridiculous.
>>737270729Being dead.In pretend.
>>737274857When every chapter starts looking identical at the same time it takes you out of the setting. They'd be recruiting from different worlds. It shouldn't be Magic the Gathering where infinite magic realms all look the same.
>>737275108You mean the Fyreslayers shouldn't all be shirtless red haired manlets?
>>737275243unironically cooler than them being niggers
>>737275243>Slayers in Warhammer were Dwarfs who fucked up and repented by suicide via combat, wearing armor would protect you ergo you wouldn't want armor >Proceed to just rip the no clothes idea without any of the logic behind it and now ON FIRE Modern fantasy writing is fucking cursed. THINK NIGGAS THINK.
>>737274618>Black space wolfsLiteral sjw nigger fan fiction >Black Thousand sons REAL LORE ACCURATE NIGGAS
>>737271740That better be Erebus's flaming corpse on Lorgar's staff Also there's no way Angron would ever remain loyal in this universe unless his backstory was heavily changed where Big E probably helped his rebellion, or saved his fellow slave gladiators.
>>737274614I like this art. It's that fun ugly kind of awesome art.
>>737275469I only wonder why the hot dog and mustard.
>>737271663Why are space wolves tzeentch. I would just have them be undivided and get the aesthetics that norsca has but more space mariney and using captured daemons or beasts for war.>>737273447Don't worry horus is coming back but he posses abbaddon for funsies.
>>737273425No, the mistake was changing the lore, like who created what ie Inquisition, Astartes, Primarchs, etc. That was utter bullshit.
>>737275552>Why are space wolves tzeentch. I would just have them be undivided and get the aesthetics that norsca has but more space mariney and using captured daemons or beasts for war.As the other anon said, they're chaos legions of their respective rivals. Russ is Tzeentch because of Magnus. Khan is Nurgle because of Mortarion, Ferris is Slaneesh because of Fulgrim.
NU-DEFILERS LOOK LIKE SOUL GRINDERS WITH A HELMET AND ARMORonly good looking one is the iron chuds defilers, as expected
>>737273668>Ever since expanding the Horus Heresy, the entire lore of this fucking setting has only been PRIMARCHS, PRIMARCHS, AND MORE PRIMARCHS.because they're basically the main characters of the setting? sorry your little guy Nigra Mcnuggit isnt important anymore, but you can always live in your personal fantasies either way
>>737273668>The only good thing to cone from this were the memes about Guilliman and Yvraine but that's it.I hate that shit the most.
>>737276285smurf fag detected
>>737269168>first time playing>quest was bugged, didn't get him>second time playing>quest was bugged, didn't get himThank you, Owlcat
Ultramarines are the white, Christian man's chapter.
>>737276372The definitive Owlcat experience.
>>737270670No one can dedicate so much of their life to merely pretending and not suffer autism
>>737276372>miss him the first time playing>replay game many months later>recruit him, forget to recruit the rest of my team
Is it normal that the more I got into 40k the more I gravitated towards non-Imperial factions?
>>737276453That's what makes them the best at what they do.
>>737269168I picked this army when I was 13 because they were like vikings. I didn't even have a concept of Furries at the time.
>>737276514yes because eldar are just better
>>737271740>the little guardsman fella using the oversized bolter like a walking stickkek, campkino
>>737276653Actually I was talking about the Tau
>>737270508Perturabo, ever the petulant manchild
>>737270987It’ll be a while.
>>737270454When he finds a way to get Isha out of Nurgle’s neet cave and has sex with her.
>>737275394>Alpha Legion all supposed to be bald white men as they're 1 to 1 copies of their Primarch>Mike Brooks gets assigned an Alpha Legion book and makes the MC a black man with long dreadlocksBRAVO JAMES WORKSHOP
>>737277568does GW gives a single fuck about the lore? it sounds like they just allow anyone do whatever as long as they can sell their figurines
>>737276410Funny way of spelling Black Templars.
>>737277714They HAVE to increase profits not matter what. So they listen to the goblin man who has lost more money than he has earned yet somehow is rich.
>>737269627>Blood Angels are pretty gaystill in one of the most iconic 40k illustrations though fag
>>737277714GW has been slowly making the setting pozzed for awhile now. Lore accurate skin color legions is no longer a thing in their eyes.
>>737273668>The fact they're slowly bringing them back is also retarded, especially now that Dorn is hinted at coming back. They all should have been kept as legends.Fuck you le chud! That is why you are being replaced with the new favorite customers, the tranny crowd, who will gladly spend 150 to 200 dollars for Primarch models and paint them blue and pink!
>>737273425Yes but the mistake was hiring failed writers who vomited out pure dogshit.
>>737273668>the entire lore of this fucking setting has only been PRIMARCHS, PRIMARCHS, AND MORE PRIMARCHS.Actually;>Eldar tried to spawn a new God>Tau are in the process of spawning a new God>The Silent King returned and the Necrons are now undergoing a civil war>Orks lost at Octarius but mostly because Ghazghkull is mustering the largrst WAAAGH!!! in galactic history to attack Armageddon>Tyranids launched their largrst invasion ever, starting the Fourth Tyrannic War>Genestealer Cults have infiltrated Terra and are actively waging guerilla warfare against the Custodes under the Imperial PalaceBut guess what, nobody gives a fuck about any of that shit because xenos are fucking BORING.
>>737269168stop making rt threads!
>>737270482No, and that's the point.They're megasoldiers able to blow xenos' heads away through sheer spite and the will to do so, but in exchange they have some fatal flaw.
What do you mean there's a dragon on Mars that controls the Imperium
>>737278945Imagine how raped the imperium would be without plot armor
>>737278975No.
>>737279125It's a shard of a C'tan that the Emperor beat to a pulp and threw to Mars during the Dark Ages. It impacted so hard it got buried in an underground labyrinth of caverns and has been comatose ever sense. The AdMech worships the concept of it not knowing they're essentially being fed the dreams of a near-dead Star God. Those who do manage to travel the labyrinth and find the Dragon all go mad and rip their cybernetics out, killing themselves in the process.
>>737279125Technically it's a shard of a C'tan and it controls it indirectly by influencing the toaster fuckers on mars who are in charge of far too many parts of the imperium frankly. They're vital.
>>737276410The Romans hated Christians you moron fuck I had chuds.
>>737271663>>737271740What would be the optimal primarch team?Hardmode-only 6 loyalists
>>737279396Sanguinius, Dorn, Lion, Guilliman, Russ, VulkanEasy
For me, it's the Dark Angels
>>737273635Plus he figured that ruling a planet after conquering it utterly was not to his strengths nor held his interest so the offer from the Emperor to keep with the hunt eternal was an enticing offer to boot.
I am rating your chapter based entirely off who plays them in SM2>UltramarinesEither brand new players who have no clue what they're doing, or unironically the best players you'll ever come across who will single handedly win the mission. No in-between. >Black TemplarsShould be age blocked from video games for all being underage. Never good, never older than 12. >Dark Angels Refuse to fight at range, downed in melee continuously>Blood AngelsRefuse to fight at range, single handedly killed the boss and fifty extremis at once >White ScarsIs spamming text chat asking why you're not at the elevator already to move to the next zone, ran past the entire map (didn't take 1hp of damage)>SalamandersBrought a flamer, plasma or melta, cut your frame rate in half in doing so.>Imperial FistsIts fitting they look like McDonalds employees because they're got the IQ of them too. Sometimes good sometimes shit always using a fist. >Iron HandsDon't exist.>Raven GuardThinks being invisible is the coolest thing ever while complaining on Reddit that SM2 doesn't have lightning claws yet >Space WolfFurry >Blood RavenThinks wearing the BR colors but an Ultramarine jump pack is the peak of comedy. >Crimson FistThinks picking the "first" 40k space marine chapter makes them an old fag. Got into 40k through Dawn of War.
>>737278945>because Ghazghkull is mustering the largrst WAAAGH!!! in galactic history to attack Armageddonfeel like i've heard this line a couple times before... surely this time it will work....
>>737279596I play Minotaurs.Fuck you, pay your taxes.
>>737278945>Genestealer Cults have infiltrated Terra and are actively waging guerilla warfare against the Custodes under the Imperial Palacehow does this even work? you can't just throw improvised explosives and rocks at them, custodes aren't just golden space marines oh who am i kidding, yes they are
>>737279396Horus (warmaster for a reason)Dorn and Perturabo (asset denial)Lion (big legion and DAoT weapons)Russ (Anti-marine legion)Alpharius (deal with enemy ops, prepared for fighting other marines, back up plans and paranoia)Alpharius can also be swapped for Mortarion (enduring legion, another asset denial), Roboutte (big legion) or Sanguinuis (Best primarch fighter), but I think having CIA is just too useful
>>737279281>>737279292This feels like it would be a big problem if the story ever moves forward
>>737276514Yes.>>737276754Quite gay.
>>737273573https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcFcmPQklyYCawladooty marines
>>737279805It's not Marine related so it doesn't matter.
>>737279596>Got into 40k through Dawn of War.Shouldn't that be for Blood Raven instead of Crimson Fist?
>>737279653>MinotaursKinda kino, kinda good players
>>737279931The irony is that newfags pretend to like Crimson Fists to fit in. Everyone knows Bloody Magpie fans are newfags.
>>737277714It has quite literally were only about selling toys before anything else. Its a literal quote by multiple people who have influence within the company.
>>737279805It would be a catastrophic issue considering how much the imperium depends on mars to function on a day to day basis.
>>737279805>if the story ever moves forwardOh so it's fine then
>>737280180As long as they're not unleashing it then it'll be fine. Even Rogue Trader gave you a means to control a C'tan Shard.
>>737270482Leman Russ genuinely has one of the most complete and cathartic character transformations in the Heresy. He is without question one of the most dynamic characters in the series, but you have to put up with a lot of retardation first.
>>737276514I got into 40k tabletop after primarily experiencing it through DoW.It's a legitimately depressing process to be hit with going from secondary media to primary material, on essentially every level. If Marines, Chaos, or Guard aren't your favorite faction then you just immediately have to learn that GW doesn't give a fuck about your faction in any way besides tweaking tabletop rules to try and drives sales.
What's the fucking reason that we don't have a live action WH40k movie yet?
>>737280340cause it would be shit and there is zero reason to trust it wouldn't?sorry, have you not been keeping up with the currently quality of movie studios?
>tfw start collecting SW in 6th when I was like 14>"space Vikings are so cool!">GW turns up the wolfing wolfer wolf retardation to 11 (even though this had already started by 6th)>the viking shit is barely touched upon>furshit, whether justified or not, gets attached to the chapter which further ruins discussion>one of the most spastic cocksucking retards to ever plague /40kg/ is some fag obsessed with SW putting fucking wolf heads and wolf decals on everything including knightsSpace vikings...
>>737280340GW's being as anal about their IP does have its benefits. One is not letting anyone just make a sanitized movie to easily market to make a quick buck.
>>737279706Considering 40k's been around for so long, aren't there some massive anti-feats in the lore for Space Marines and Custodes losing to something they have no business losing to?
>>737281401There's that time the Harlequins killed a bunch of Custodes.
>>737276410Wouldn't that be Word Bearers before Emperor decided to fuck them over?
>>737279706Custodes are also constantly having to pick off stray daemons who get stranded in the palace through leaks in the Webway, so Genestealers only need to distract them long enough for something to go wrong.
>>737280340I would never want one as Hollywood would ruin it and if it becomes a hit with the plebs, they'll ruin the series even more.
Still pissed off that Skaven aren't in WH40k.
>>737270739The vampire shit was originally just one specific special character because one of the game devs had converted a Vampire Lord from WHFB he wanted to use as a Librarian. Originally they were more like warboys from Mad Max and the Space Marine process gave them bloodlust and a bipolar disorder.
Fantasy vampires are cool so I'm glad there's a faction that pulls some inspiration from them. Not too much though like thr Tomb Kings and Necrons
>>737279596What about Red Scorpions
>>737271280There's a warp entity called the Sanguinor.But at this point, the theory on /tg/ is that since Dante will eventually have so many near death experiences he'll finally reincarnate as Sanguinus to apotheosize his suffering.
>>737269168I just stick with Blood Ravens. Literally every other chapter that has been given voiced media has felt like a parody of DoW 1 and 2. They just don't get it.
I liked Ulfar's quest battle saga poem without wanting to fuck him. It seemed cool. Norse mythology-based shit is cool.And it was pretty cool that your Rogue Trader could punch a mad space marine in the face and send him flying into the snow. I like the drama there.
>>737282250>parody of DoW 1 and 2you mean the games that feel like a parody of early 40k but still takes themselves too seriously so they miss the mark completley?
>>737281649Unless you're fucking 60 years old then the decision to make 40k without Skaven was made before you were an adult, faggot.
>>737270669And GW has some absolute mouth breathers writing for them. HH can't even be consistent on how much or even if the Primarchs know about Chaos or not, despite the fact the very first book in the series has Horus establish that the Emperor gave them all a run down on what Chaos and demons actually are, and that is why religion is forbidden in the Imperium. The lack of consistency makes the Primarchs appear even dumber and more unstable. The HH series was mistake. It is one thing to remove the mystique behind the legend, it is another to lobotomize everyone character involved in it.
>>737282635And? He can still be upset about itThe decision to make me was also made before I was born and I strongly disagree with it
>>737270628As an actually competent Khorne-aligned primarch, yes.
>>737277714Them not caring about the lore is nothing new. Except instead of simply retconning stuff like usual, they're trying to pozzed it up instead.
>>737282420>you mean a parody of a parody of a satire??stop!
>>737277714>>737277768>>737277971>>737279995>>737282889Are you guys genuinely retarded? You're upset that a company's first interest is making money? No shit.And just throwing out 'pozzed' as if that even fucking means anything in this context. Absolute retards. Thank fuck none of you will have children.
>>737274008Back in the day the niche was filled by Scouts who weren't Space Marines yet and wore much lighter armor. Also Space Marines were only 6'6" and then had their height continually inflated by writers taking "height in power armor" and conflating it with "height period"
>>737269168I THINK SPACE WOLVES SUCK
>>737283145that's not how you use the meme
>>737270789You know, it's never really dwelled upon, but one of the old lore bits states Khorne's first guise to humanity was in the form of one of the Tengri gods, which implies the Mongolians not only once followed Chaos, but successfully broke away from it without damning their entire race.
>>737272260Yes. Its OP enough the Imperium genuinely cant do anything to contest your rule of the expanse once you have it. And the Imperium, for the fuckups they are, are very difficult to make fuck off if they actually organize an offensive against something.
>>737283110Making money from who? You can have POCs in the setting, but it just so happens to coincide with the all White legion? Give me a break, you buckbroken slave.
>>737275243To make Fyreslayers that aren't shirtless red haired manlets, they'd need a second wave to complete the rest of the army.
>>737271740>Curze looks the same kek
>>737279596Why ISNT the lightning fist in yet?
>>737276108The main characters of Warhammer are Your Dudes. Primarchs are just there to be background material for Your Dudes.Black Library took a big map with a section that said "Here Be Dragons" and drew on it with crayon.
Fulgrim is gay
>>737283350i don't think this is true anymore, i think GW could not give half a shit about your dudes and have found a way better market for themselves by fleshing out their existing factions, and 40k has not been about your dudes for 15 years at least
>>73728312030k's got recon squads of power armor marines. Granted, they're wearing cameleoline, though the infiltrating Seeker squads don't (at least until they get dedicated sculpts), but I suppose space marine tech and doctrine were different too.
>>737280340We don't have an animated movie yet because of Final Fantasy:Spirits Within.We don't have a live action movie because GW jerking Cavill around.
>>737280340>live actionMake it animatedYou get to do WAY more with less budget
>>737283145did wiggas (ward niggas) get the primaris upgrade or are they forever manlets?
>>737269168To me, the biggest sin the Space Wolves commit is being based on fucking norse bullshit. I'm so fucking sick of Norse faggotry in games.
>>737283145Anon GKs are the ones who call it the 'months of shame' because they got duped by a radical borderline heretical Inquisitor into wasting precious time and resources fighting a First Founding Chapter.
>>737283718lmao, they'll get that when they get a range refresh in maybe 5 years, just in time for a not-dogshit codex
>>737275243Funny enough theh recently changed Daughters of Khaine so their mainline infantry wasn't all just Witch Elves and some people threw a bitch fit because the new elite Shrine guards wear clothes.
>>737269671he did it cause of his whale of a wife 100%. guy doesn't even pretend it's not performative
>>737283724I've never liked norse bullshit either, but the furfag stuff is just icing on the shit cake
>>737283718>>737283816does any piece of media even depict a non-terminator armor GK anymore?
>>737269168Don't those massive shoulder plates get in the way?
>>737284249Not really, Spess Muhrines are supposed to be inhumanly fast despite the heavy armor
>>737280340Have you seen how goofy the power armors look in the Fallout show? They don't have the tech to make convincing power armor props yet, the alternative is CGI which would cost too much
>>737269627>tfw my only exposure to 40k was Dawn of War and Rogue Trader RPGwell, shit
>>737284087How long has it been since Crowe got new art?
>>737284390i think he's referring to the age old "how do they raise their arms/rotate their shoulders" question
>>737284814>how do they raise their arms/rotate their shouldersrather easily I assume
>>737281973Genuinely good players most of the time, the quirky off center choices are usually players who think for themselves and do their own thing.
>>737283343Too hard to animate, everyone is working on Space Marine 3. No joke this is the actual reason. The 'new' weapon coming is the claymore because its just the power sword but bigger.
>>737285017i don't know, a lateral raise would crush their skull
>>737284249By lore SMs don't even need to aim, they know where their gun is firing because of their helmets feedback. So the shoulders shouldn't be an issue because they can hip fire and be pinpoint accurate.
>>737283727Kind of hammers home the "Grey Knights are actually loyalist Thousand Sons" theories.
>>737284087As it should be. Non-Terminator Grey Knights should never have existed. In 2nd edition they all wore Terminator armor because there was so few of them putting them in regular power armor was possibly a waste of a psyker.
>>737284486I think you're thinking of the Blood Ravens, anon. Not the Blood Angels.
>>737270454Clonegrim gets free or the Khan comes back.
>>737285112TSons are more moral actually
>>737271663>Vulkan, Nurgle>Lion, Tzeench>Sanguinius, KhorneBut who will fall for Slaanesh?
>>737279630I need ghaz to kick a chaos primarch or named chaos marine in the balls one day.
Just finished reading this. Pretty solid and I liked it better than the Lucius stories (Lucius is kind of a faggot)
>>737284249>>737284390>>737285110Pretty sure the lore stated that the should plates automatically realigns or moves to different position when the marines move their limbs so it won't interfere with their aiming or swings.
>>737273425I think it's obvious they didn't think out the entire series, and it suffers from a lack of unified vision, so lots of characters either get no screen time, are portrayed inconsistently, or go nowhere.
>>737285881Currently reading this whenever I get the chance. I'm laughing at this conversion of people to Chaos.>Sees a bunch of scavengers about to get eaten by a beast>Word Bearer MC shoots and kills it>Scavengers do Aquila gesture with hands and says The Emperor Protects>"He didn't protect you. I did.">They all trust this man now ABSOLUTE KEK
>>737283145>kills your grand master
>>737269671>Space wolf VA trooned outDark angle laughter intensifiesThousand son laughter intensifies
>>737287876How will he be voiced in future expansions?
>tanky>bling>hammers>fireBest chapter. Woofs close second.
I just think Space Wolves are fun. Taking this franchise seriously is a one way trip to disappointment.>>737273462I'd love Raven Guard a lot more if they didn't look like My Chemical Romance rejects. Funnily enough, using your limited-number death machines for special operations is what you should actually use your Space Marines for instead of full scale million vs million battles.
>>737285881>>737287798I've tried reading a few "serious" 40k novels (Abnett, Fehervari...) and they were dogshit. Boring plot, boring characters, shitty narrative...So now I exclusively enjoy comedy with books which don't take themselves seriously. Much better.
>>737288517He just won't. Owlcat games mostly have unvoiced dialogue for like 90% of the game.
>>737269168Are they vikangs or werewolves? Pick one.
>>737289650>30kVikings>40kFurriesWhen Forge World made some wolf-shaped helmets for the former, they got bullied into redoing the design.
>>737287836>Can just slap MAGICK RUNES LADDEH! on a khorne corrupted axe and it's fine>It takes literally all of Crowe's willpower to just use his daemon sword as a regular ass swordAnd yet the grey knights are the mary sues apparently.
>>737271663Where's Alpharius?
>>737283110Making money by constantly investing into pandering to people who don’t give a shit?
>>737269168You know how every chapter is like super soldiers with a gimmick?Ultramarines are super soldiers, but also romans.Ravenguard are super soldiers, but also common sense emos.Salamanders are super soldiers, but also humane pyromaniacs.Blood Angels are super soldiers, but also pretty vampires.With the wolves, something went completely off the rails and their gimmick almost entirely replaced the commonly shared super soldier thing.
>>737290079It does help that it’s wielded by a Chapter Master
>>737290421What do you mean? Aside from going overboard on the wolf shit they’re basically super soldiers but also vikings.
>>737290464What I mean is that their theme feels so overpowering that things are reversed for them.Where Ultramarines are super soldiers with a dash of roman army, the space wolves are werewolf vikings with a dash of super soldiers.
>>737290712Sounds like flanderization. It’s hit a lot of the chapters in different ways. Maybe shit will change when Russ returns like it did when Guilliman came back.
Has Girlyman actually done anything since he returned?
>>737290972Fought off Mortarion and his stinky army
>>737290972No
>>737290972Launched the Indomitus Crusade, brought in the Primaris, has told his boys to quit the codex humping.
>>737291020Emperor did that.
>>737273573Trigger discipline on a bolter pisses me off more than a stock.
>>737291197Why?
>>737291263Marines train with bolters for 14 hours a day for over a hundred years and get psychic brain alterations to remove weakness, there's no way they'd get a negligent discharge.Plus it's clear evidence of some leech trying to smear his filthy realism onto a completely unrealistic setting.
>>737290079Grimnar is one of the best warriors in the Imperium and as a SW is extra warp resistant. Not that hard to imagine that he, as a chapter master, can manage that.
>>737291462First space wolves novel has one of the newly minted marines shoot himself in the head while cleaning his pistol.
>>737290079That daemon sword also happens to be exceptionally bad mojo.
Why did he create two fortify defend fortify legions?
>>737291851One becomes THE fortify dudes and the other becomes the siege dudes since to siege you gotta know defense.
>>737291646New marines, especially space wolves, are mentally retarded
Are Night Lords the most useless legion? All they've ever done is job.
months of shame is still the dumbest lore in all of warhammer btw
>>737292318HH novels exist, that's not the case anymore.
>>737270454>>737270508>Chaos fags and anti-Imperium fags seething endlessly at the return of Guilliman and the LionMeanwhile Chaos has confirmed Magnus, Fulgrim, Mortarion, Peturabo, Angron, Logar all alive and doing shenanigans and Abbadon might as well be a Chaos Primarch at this point with how much plot armour he has. That's 6 Chaos Primarchs alive and fucking shit up on a regular basis and Chaos fags seethed at the return of a single loyal Primarch in Guilliman and seethed even harder at the return of the Lion.All this tells me is that a single loyal Primarch is worth 3 Chaos Primarchs. Chaos are fags.
>>737271290the reason i like guilliman and khan is because they can actually be seen as characters outside of their attachment to the imperium/emperor theyre like the reasonable marines of primarchs
>>737270508>next primarch is VulkanBecause he lives. *stomp* *stomp*
>>737292381it doesn't mean much that chaos primarchs are up and about when they can barely interact in the materium for 99% of time
>>737270576I don't Pert has been doing that, you are probably confusing Fulgrim constantly having Ferrus cloned
>>737291462Raptor's whole shtick is being tacticool marine versions of the regular Imperial Guard to inspire instead of frighten them. That means showing their normie counterparts the proper way they should be doing things.
>>737292329there's nothing in the HH even as close to as stupid and as much of a blatant author suck off as the months of shameUHM BUT HE WAS BORN WITH A SPECIAL TALENT....HE COULD HARNESS THE DARKNESS.......and yeah he could run and sprint in terminator armour and he is the wolfleader of the wolfpack and he can oneshot like 15 grey knights because of his DARKNESS CHAOS EDGE AXE etc
>>737269168They fuck werewolves.
>>737273425I don't really think the general idea was a mistake (they were already expanding upon it before HH), problem came when they decided to make it a (relatively) short series into a two decade franchise within a franchise (that they are still dragging out despite it technically being over)
>>737283598>we don't have an animated movie yet>he lacks the knowledge
>>737292329I find it intensely funny that have we about sixty horus heresy novels now, yet the only thing we learned about Ferrus Manus is that he has iron hands.
>>737283718no put they probably will soon since GW is setting up their lore for a rehresh line up
hahaha wat
>>737292485Angron is always around causing shit. Magnus is a nerd in his library. Lorgar a bitch in his church. Mortarion is giving all his followers the coof, Peterabo been playing Chess for 10k years, Fulgrim jelqing for 10k years after Rylanor bitch slapped the perfect out of him.
>>73729281695% of the shit in the HH novels is 50x worse than that. I honestly can't think of a single thing in HH that's actually good.
>>737293171You have over 2million Space Marines with 8+ Primarch, the Emperor, Custodes, Malcador, Billions of humans, tens of thousands of ships, a battle so large with so many characters so with much going on that yeah you need 10 books.
>>737271621Its one of the best outcomes a traitor can have where you get all of the immortality but don't have to answer to the petty whims of a single godThe only time undivided guys actually have to do anything is when abbadon successfully tardwrangles enough legions together for a black crusade
>>737293212The ADB novels are good and most of the Dan Abnett ones. Lorgar's betrayal was handled really well.
unironically not bait what is peoples problem with the hh novels?i absolutely despised the john grammaticus/perpetuals/cabal plotline which felt like an artemisfowl teen novel tier plot but other than that i'm not sure what's so offensivei get there's individual dogshit plotlines like that siege of terra novel with like 300 pages dedicated to some random african soldier bitch riding a train to the palaceis it just primarchs = superheroes?
>>737275409I'd imagine either that, or big E said to angron "i know you're gonna betray me eventually but lets get shit done for now and you can 1v1 me later"
Legion is the worst HH book. Prove me wrong.
>>737293329Too many cooks and all that. Not to mention that most of those cooks were pretty shit.
>>737293329For some people it's the demystification of the setting, that the heresy era worked better when it was something you only knew about from scraps of lore that may or may not be truth, personaly i don't mind it but i only started around the 6th eddition so idk
>>737293419one of the best actually because its the only one that even slightly, remotely brushes on intelligence which is just never, ever brought up in 40k in anyway
>>737285326I think Slaanesh would get Guilliman the same way the EC got corrupted by focusing on their obsession with following rules to the letter
>>737269671>VA trooned outWhat does he look like before and after?
>>737271663Russ should be Khornate, The Khan should be Chaos undivided, Corvus or The Lion would probably be the one to fall to Tzeentch.>>737272309I think it’s them trying to say that the rivals of the primarchs fall to the same gods.
>>737285326There was that bit in the White Scars novel where the shard of Magnus talked about Fulgrim ending up on the planet where the Khan was supposed to drop.
>>737292987I mean an actual theatrical movie not a web series. Bloodquest was derailed because Spirits Within bombing led to every studio in Hollywood shutting its doors to any animation that wasn't a Shrek ripoff.
>>737292381When will Lion meet Guilliman bro. This shit is getting ridiculous.
>>737293329Only a handful of the books are actually good and the rough (memory holed?) summary from 1d4(1d6?)chan was better as it cuts out the fat and lays it out.
>>737295109Agreed, there was a small tidbit in the some short story recently or codex entry I forget which about the Lion leaving a coded message for Guilliman 'Brother we need to talk' and that's the closest we've had so far from GW of the two interacting with each other.
>>737269627Dark Angels too
>>737276514I got into 40k trough Eldar in the first place.
>>737295320Literally the most boring fucking faction with nothing going on. Just space fags that can't have any sort of emotional response or Slaneesh claims them.Even the Tau are more interesting then these faggots.
>>737295472Dat sweet gear, though.
>>737276001Jesus christ I hadn't seen that thing before. I fucking hate nu-chaos minis so much and seeing the rapturous applause of the normies every time they release another trim-covered abomination makes me want to die.
>>737276001Part of making Perturabo a daemon primarch Trashtorr.
>>737295472You have the right to have your shit taste but you don't need to parade it around.
>>737295735If you honestly think this looks bad you need to get tested for brain damage.
>>737271740Fulgrim design fucking stinks
>>737269671>it's real
>>737271663>Tzeentch Lion is just his heresy era armorYeah I know it's ABSOLUTE KINO, but they could have put more effort into it.
>>737293620just google his name>had the beard of a dwarf>now he's a faggot wearing a dress
>>737271663>>737272309>>737272424There was the whole Dornian Heresy thing that the Bolter & Chainsword forums came up with that was basically this, but it panned out differently and had a shitload of made up lore to it. Was a pretty kino read. Summarized from what I remember:>Magnus meets with the Emperor before the Council of Nikaea and agrees to have his entire legion soul-bound>Emperor then states that nobody can use psychic powers EXCEPT the Thousand Sons>Magnus warns the Emps when Horus is being corrupted, Emperor steps in psychically and saves his best boy>Chaos Gods move to corrupt Dorn insteadFrom what I remember the four monogod legions were as follows.>Space Wolves were Khorne, can't remember what Russ did>White Scars were Slaanesh leaning into the mongol raider angle, Khan basically retired on a daemon world, feasting and getting his dick sucked for eternity>Blood Angels were Nurgle, falling to the Red Thirst and becoming fucked up plague vampires, I think Sanguinius also killed Pete Turbo by draining his blood and dropping him on the ramparts of the Emperor's Palace during the Siege of Terra>Raven Guard were Tzeentch because birds lol, most of them became weird mutantsThere was some kino shit with the traitor>loyal legions as well, things like Malcador convincing the Emperor to teleport down and save Angron's slave army during their last stand, ensuring that Angron became his most loyal soldier instead of a seething angry boy, and the World Eaters banned all use of the nails. One of my favorites was Horus still dying during the siege and Abaddon taking over and renaming the legion again, but instead they went from the Sons of Horus to the Black Templars.
>>737271575From what I gathered Horus was just lied to and ultimately mindbroken by brute force instead of him being somehow convinced or corrupted.GW never had the talent to actually flesh out the myths they created.
>>737271575Konrad never fell to chaos. In fact he seemed pretty much immune to it to the point chaos couldn't even influence his visions.
>>737276001i think the biggest sign to me that /tg/ is dead and worthless to me is the 1d6chan article on the defiler having a blurb defending that retarded abomination
>>737271864The older SW books are far better since they instead went full Viking with it, calling people Jarls and Huskarls and the like.
>>737295472They're also a dying species, 100billion at most not including Dark Eldar. Sounds like a lot but a single Hive World in the Imperium can have as much as that or more in pop.They're just stagnate as a species and in the lore, there's nothing really to do with them or to go, what's the motivation with them? Simply to stave off the pull of Slaanesh and recover soul stones? So they can't conquer planets or settle worlds or do anything cool because that's what led to them falling in the first place.I just don't like them for that reason. Exodites I can get behind but there's not much written about them
>>737288517Apparently he can still do the voice, and they already altered it in the game by pitching it down.
Funfact. There is much more Eldar than there is Tau. But only one of them is a dying race.
>>737269671>Space Wolf corrupted by SlaaneshKek Wolf fags will never live this down.
>>737296178The Defiler is meant to be a crab with a battle cannon and a daemon shoved inside to power it, this just looks like they took a daemon and shoved some mechanical greebles on it instead.
Any recommended underrated writers for any BL books?
>>737296581People who spout the whole "muh eldar are a dying race" line don't usually even read their lore. The Eldar have no problems reproducing or anything like that. The craftworlders are the most populous eldar around, at most what limits their population growth is access to soul stones and atrition their wars for survival etc are causing.
>>737296591The explanation for is that due to the great rift greater daemonic possession is possible in the material world. My uncle works for GW so I know what I'm talking about.
It would be really funny if we got a Fallen Dark Angel as a companion in stead.
>>737288517>replace all future dialogue with YIFF YIFF YIFF AROOOOO>nobody notices
>>737279596For me its>Valius is Lamenter>Vespasius is Atlantian Spear>Decimus is Space Sharks>Straban is Imp fist but with the primary black color scheme or a Blood Raven>Scipius is Raptors>Quartus is Mantis Warriors>Telorian is i don't care enough to make him not an ultrasmurf
>>73729675699% of the fallen are hardcore chaos worshipers. But doubt owlkek has the balls to do a fallen that is masquerading as a loyalist but actually a traitor that backstabs you at the end.
>>737289194I liked this one, but the chapters from the perspective of the "they/them" skitarii or whatever it was got really annoying, it just became awkward to read.The fuck are they going around pretending to be non-binary anyway, they literally speak in binaric.
>>737279596>Dark Angels >Refuse to fight at range, downed in melee continuouslyFunny because the DA specialty is going in all on plasma ranged support.
>>737279596I play ultrasmurf with a darker shade of blue, bronze trims and a kewl winged skull for an emblemWhat am I?>inb4 incel chud
>>737270628Corrupted
>>737273425Yes, retards writing about gods and demigods always ends up cringe.
>>737279596Black Templars have the coolest color scheme. That's a fact
>>737296861You're a fucking chud
>>737296825It'd be impossible to pull off anyway when you predict player actions, 99% of them would just kill him off. Look how many people threw Idira out the airlock the second she slipped.
>>737270789He's so great 80% turned traitor but he's so special he told them to not be traitor and they become loyal again. Literal mary sue levels of cringe.
>>737271432I "agree" (and I actually like the idea that was maybe there in the subtext, that he'd end up as a "mirror" to Dorn who would be corrupted by Chaos, he'd come back as a "renegade" with his own little autistic empire) but Chaos doesn't really need you to be willing, and while I like the "resisting its gifts through sheer spite (almost literally cutting off your nose to spite your face) and autism, Chaos is insidious and can play the long game, it creeps in eventually (and it's not like "it" can't use you for its goals anyway). Plus grimdark etc that even the most unwilling iron willed autistic "atheist" is forced to "ascend" to survive a soul-draining wound from the brother that he (against type) decided to "trust"
>>737297001Didn’t Washington do something like this?
>>737279596>Salamanders>Brought a flamer, plasma or meltaLore accurate players are the best players.
>>737295293Other chapters might be gay, but dark angels are flat out homosexual.
>>737271432I wouldn't put it past the chaos gods to make him a daemon prince against his will as a joke.
>>737271432Couldn't he be like Corax who just turned himself into a pick- bird (his true immaterium self or whatever) after marinading in the eye for 10k years?
>>737279596What about Relictors?>>737280474This is why successor chapters exist. Your dudes, your way. Enjoy your Ragnarockers.
Why is Angron so angry all the time?
>>737279596
>>737297404Daddy issues
>>737297460>>737297487>magpies stealing wargear
>>737297460>>737297487You should write jokes for SNL!
>>737297404pain spikes in the brain mainly
>The Last Wall protocol>Those Yellow bastards are calling all loyal Sons of Dorn to stand together and are asking what?...repaint all colours to match Imperial Fist? Look I'll fight for Dorn but that's too much fucking Fists, fuck off.
>>737269671Thousand Sons: 1Space Wolves: 0
>>737297404Why did they make him old?
>>737297695>Magnus checking my digits
>>737297623BT are so retarded the would probably start a civil war over that. The once started executing people on Terra during a chaos invasion instead of fighting the daemons and traitor marines.
>>737297703because LE ANGRY OLD MEN is a trope that hits home with the normgroids
>>737297703He was autistically sitting in a room for 10000 years and he didn't have a stasis field
>>737297725If you are dead chaos can't corrupt you anymore. Also, retarded factions are the best. That's why everyone loves Orks
>>737297703Because he was asleep in the Rock that makes you old.
>>737297703He wasn't in stasis in the old codices so they went with a old man verison of him. The most likely reason for it is because Russ is a old man at the end of the heresy and they wanted for the 40k Lion to match his appearance since they became such good bros after the heresy and all.
>>737297725Traitors are more dangerouser than the enemy
>>737297725>Calling the Black Templars retarded
>>737297816They weren't traitors just civilians the BT said have the wrong eye and hair color.
>>737297832Sounds like traitors to me
>>737297832Loyal citizens don't have blue hair and purple eyes.
>>737297775>That's why everyone loves OrksI think that orks are annoying and the whole "MU fans in space" thing doesn't fit as much into the setting anymore on account of actual MU fans dying out
There's one thing I absolutely fucking hate with the Primaris Bolters, that they have scopes on then. Scopes! Why???A Space Marine doesn't need a Scope he has a HUD inside his helmet and stabilisation actuators within his power armour. The fuck does a Marine need a scope for on a basic Bolter?
>>737297875>I think that orks are annoying
>>737297875I like them because they love what they do. They aren't fags who have to be forced into war like humans or constantly cry like the Eldar. They simply have fun
I fucking LOVE the Unremembered Empire. Best team building exercise in the history of 40k with the most SOVLFVL moments.
>>737297871>Loyal citizens don't have .. purple eyes.Tell that to the Cadians
>>737297950Show me the planet Cadia on a map.You can't? How curious.
>>737297940>because they love what they doSo like every heretic and loyalist spess muhreen? Ork ain't special in that regard. The difference is they are more cowardly than SM's.
>>737297404He hurt.
>>737297931Helmetless marines+the scope is literally linked to the auspex so it still works even if they aren't looking directly through it
>>737297741Lion is super chill in 40k. Doesn't get angry at all except when he sees the face of a dying Sanguinius.
>>737298001Night Lords hate themselves and heretics in general had to be brainwashed. Orks just do what comes natural to them.Space Muhreens just have super autism
>>737297404Hemorroi + arthritis in them sideways pointy bits in the vertebrae and also probably the nails
prove him wrong without sounding mad
>>737297993Guys... Did Black Templars destroy Cadia?
>>737297993Can you show your arms abadon? no? how curious
>>737297725>>737297823
>>737298201Just some traitors.
>>737293329Xenosfags are mad that the most popular book series essentially makes fun of them and points out they're completely unnecessary to the setting.
>>737290972He fucked a high ranking eldar bitch or something.
>>737279596The objectively best Space Marine 2 players come from these chapters>Best, usually god-tier playersUltramarines that aren't the basic bitch low level default skins, 1000% Codex compliant Dark Angels; Deathwing and Ravenwing, those who use the Champion Bulwark skin are literal garbage players>top tier, mostly competent playersBlood Angels; the more basic bitch battle brother the better player they are; those who use the Sanguinor Guard Assault skin are trash playersBlood Ravens; DoW2 design Blood Ravens are far superior players than those who rock DoW1 colourways for some reason but they're still good enough to be in the same tierCarcharodonsRaven Guard; only Codex compliant ones since there's a ton of Raven Guard out there with mishmash accessories and they're trash playersMinotaursIron Hands; they're rare but when you play with one they're almost never badDark Angels basic bitch; Codex compliant battle brother, contrarians who don't want to LARP as Deathwing and Ravenwing>decentCodex compliant playersSalamandersRaptorsLamentersHorus Heresy/Great Crusade era colourways regardless of traitor or loyalist though they are mostly World Eaters/War Hounds, Death Guard/Dusk Raiders and Dark AngelsEveryone else not on the list falls here>trash players, will eat shit all the timeImperial FistsWhite Scarsplayers with homebrew chaptersplayers who aren't Codex compliantSnoy players>the worst upon the worst, you might as well quit the lobby if you encounter these shittersSpace WolvesBlack Templarsplayers who use the champion skins except for the Ultramarine Heavy oneplayers with meme/puke colourwaysplayers with random mix and match armoursXbox players
>>737272072I've always thought that Dorn would be a good choice for killing off Lucius. Dorn is drifting around the warp one handed, Lucius thinks he'll either kill a primarch or get a primarch body, Dorn is so bitterly autistic that he feels absolutely nothing when killing him.
>>737298347>contrarians who don't want to LARP as Deathwing and RavenwingRespect the Greenwing!!
>>737298396Dorn is 10 nanoseconds from falling to Khorne at any moment in his life post the heresy. I wouldn't be surprised if he becomes a traitor primarch. The new lore even suggest that Dorn is the one responsible for chaos in 40k since apparently the Emperor actually defeated and weakened the chaos gods in his final battle. But Dorn was so stubborn to not let go his legion dying in the Iron Cage will be the sacrifice to bring back the chaos gods to plague humanity in the coming millennia.
Are there moments where SM sacrifice imperial soldiers for the greater good and feel bad? I’m not talking about stuff like “wow good shot human” but “god damn it I don’t want to kill these bros but I have to”. I think Seth(?) had to basically abandon some to their deaths because someone from the inquisition was blackmailing him so he decided to kill her along with civilians
>>737296584Sounds more like Tzeentch's bullshit considering he's responsible for change and transformation stuff.
>>737298557No why would they? SM's are brainwashed to die for the Imperium they view any military asset the Empire has as having the same priorities.
>>737298557afaik they always feel a bit bad about the death of imperial souls but sometimes sacrifices must be made and then they mental gymnastic their way out of it and end up into a "this was the best course of action and their death was their mission" situation
>>737297931You are both wrong and brown.>Myeh myeh Sternguard boltgunIf the best of the best are using it, it's desirable.
>>737298557There was in Dark Imperium trilogy where an Ultramarine/ultramarine cousin chapter managed to find survivors from a village isolated from the Nurgle invasion, but forced to execute them since they were doing stealth ops and one of the primaris felt really bad since he wanted to save them.
>>737289194>Mike BrooksDon't ever read his shit, the guy purposely puts pozzed crap in all his books.
>>737292381>Abbadon might as well be a Chaos Primarch at this point with how much plot armour he has.If a character is immune to being replaced by a woman, he's a legacy male protagonist, a primarch
>>737297931They also have cameras on the front of their boltgunsI hate that the new boltguns just look like shit, aren't distinctive and the one has an upside down revolver chamber (it's not a reovlver guys! It's called an accelerator! Yes it still looks dorky and bad!)It's like they changed them for the sake of changing them, for the arteest to leave his mark because he was sick of working with the sistine chapel's ceiling, same as the helmets and all the other soullessness
>browse jewtube>see peter turbo's return>he spergs out, attacks the black legion and hunting failbaddon>orders his iron warrior followers to genocide the black legionwew
>>737298885my favourite was the marine so gay for another marine that he fell to chaos without being corrupted
>>737298885His Orkz stuff is good, but yeah, don't touch anything of his that isn't Orkz
>>737273425Heard that this is where the whole daddy issues for chaos space marines starts to come in. Haven't gotten far in yet
>>737298581All Chaos Gods transform everything they touch. What is different between them is why and how. For Slaanesh, enabling you to choose your own downfall doing what you want to do. Whether it is seeking perfection or pursuing your most debase desires.
>>737270454>somehow all the primarchs returned>Next is emperor himself
>>737296584All first founding chapters are in the "definetively not traitors" territory. That used to give a good chuckle with marine players of old until this serious business nufags ruined everything.
>>737298249You fookin' wot?
>>737299451See, 2 Primarchs for the Loyalists return and it's never ending seethe and yet>>737292381
>>737297064>Plus grimdark etc that even the most unwilling iron willed autistic "atheist"That would be Fabolous Bile.>Looks into the face of Slaanesh who decided to reaveal himself what whatever stupid reason>decides that's not real because gods don't real, it was just the stars looking weird for a second there>moves alongActual Slaanesh just kindof sitting there wondering what the fuck just happened.
>>737269671No way, it's hard to believe that someone with voice so deep and gutturally feral could transitionAlso I fucking love Ulfar, once I get to use his ult and build few few stacks up he rapes everything. Overcoming every single difficulty spike that thwre were in the game were thanks to him. Probably my favorite presentation of a space marine in a video game.
Do the Primarchs and the Emperor, for their power armour do they need a fusion reactor like Space Marines or can they use their Armour without a fusion reactor? Asking because I don't remember seeing one on any of the Primarchs and if I did then I definitely didn't see one on the Emperors own power armour.
>>737269671>no,it's can't be real>it's realThe absolute state of space yiffs
>apparently there’s a sister of battle that fell to slaanesh>ohh that sounds cool >says she willingly chose chaos >well actually a daemon prince tortured her until she gave inHuh. How’d that become willingly choosing?
What are we more excited for lads, Dawn of War 4 or Total War 40k?
>>737299768I think it's like a Nurgle thing where once you become under a Chaos god's spell, you think it's actually a good thing and that it was your choice even though both aren't true. Heretics are raped beyond belief.
DRUCHII!!!Why is there no 40k Bretonnia??
>>737299954I guess but that’s pretty much Stockholm syndrome. I can kinda get it with shit like Fulgrim where it’s a slow descent but they literally tell you “hey this monster is making this woman feel pain and misery until she breaks lol she CHOSE IT”
>>737299996>Why is there no 40k Bretonnia??what are the imperial knights you stupid pissant?
>>737299748It's never stated with the Emperor, but his suit is less like power armor and more a personalized mech to mask the fact he isn't actually the giant his sons are.
>>737298190nah
>>737299768Well ackhually she chose to say yes after being tortured
>>737299949As of now DoW IV, I just don't see how Total War 40K will work compared to older ones
>>737273878they learned how to make it silent and train their recruits by trying to remain silent with rocks in their scout armor
>>737271740>Abaddon carrying the Lion SwordKino
>>737300158Emperor's suit has warp fuckery built in to power it and can change its size at will: the shield the Lion uses is normally a decorative piece mounted on his armour's shoulder that grew big enough to be useful to a Primarch.
>>737300158>>737300421While here's what it looks like on Big E.
>>737274438The fidget spinner in all the Numarines weapons drives me nuts too.
>>737299748Prety sure the primarch's armor has a fusion reactor but its fused to the armor like the custodes isSpace marines CAN use it while unpowered but it takes significant efort to do soI vaguely remember a bit of the Lion destroying the reactor of Cruze's armor and the man was hindered by it
>>737300421That shield is supposed to be the one the Emperor used when he fought the dragon in medieval times(only upgraded with a repulsor field).
DUDE I HAVE TO KILL MY SISTER BECAUSE SHE INSULTED ME LMAOOO Fuck Perty
Has it ever been stated in the lore who was in the right here? Russ seems to be right. It was his kill to make.
>>737300917Dude was insecurity made flesh, of course he'd kill her when she pointed out his failings, the fact he had enough empathy to regret it immediately after is a miracle in on itself
>>737300917Perty's problem is that he's a petulant self destructive manchild, but he's also a genious that understands he's a petulant self destructive manchild, hates himself because he can't fix himself and takes it out on everyone else to distract himself from his self hatred.With a character that self contradictory, both the best and worst thing you can do is point out the problem he is extremely well aware of because he needs the reminder to make any progress on fixing himself, but he also can't contained the violent ouburst resulting from being reminded that he's the primary source of his own problems.Perty's weird like that. And ten thousand years of living with that let him solve some of those problems, but he became a demon in the process which makes it all ultimately a failure.
>>737299451>Fantasy killed to make it more like 40k with AoS>40k about to be killed to make it like AoSTime isn't a straight line, it's a damn circle.
>>737299949both look kinda mediocre at best right nowand TW is going on fucking consoles
>>737299949tw one looks like a f2p mobile game version of tabletop 40k
>>737301050Consider this: only a faggy dickhead would play a faction called 'Dark Angels'. So the answer is clear. QED.
>>737299692Well, atheist was a bad choice of word but the best I could think of, "adeistic" ?, Perturabo cllearly acknowledges the existence of them but in theory believes that they can go and fucking kick rocks.Strangely though being an absolute hardcore atheist despite proof otherwise actually IS quite powerful due to how the warp works
>>737301263Perty is trapped in the cycle of hating that he's specifically designed as a tool for others to use (an especially good one) but also only wanting to be tool and not capable of real self actualization
>>737296948I don't know, the fucking genstealer engineer guy had me fooled the whole time, I thought he was a bro. They got me with that one.
>>737295109soon, 500 worlds had lion mention that they need to talk
>>737301276Why wouldn't you play DA? Literally the most fleshed out SM on the tabletop with numerous ways to run them all supported by rules.
>>737301263Luther only rebelled against Lion because he a small BITCH!
>>737297291No, that's more like Corax's actual warp power. It doesn't have anything to do with being a daemon, because he couldn't be controlled like a daemon could when they tried it on him. All primarchs are beings of the warp thanks to big E making a deal with the chaos gods.>>737271432I think he did it because it was the only way to continue living since Fulgrim stole his life force to ascend to deamon hood. He was dying.
>>737301479
>>737271432He became a daemon out of fear. Every traitor and loyalist was after him post the heresy. Don't be fooled he didn't feel the siege because he was mad they don't listen to him, he did it because he was afraid what will happen when the win or lose. He was living in fear 24/7 despite all his though talk.
Reminder that he won.
DA hate is the most artificial hate ever especially if your only argument is "le gaaaay".
>>737301624Extrme doubt. He even repelled Angron's faggot ass. He isn't all talk and he puts up a fight. He wouldn't be afraid of those faggots.>>737301537I think this is probably why, Fulgrim stole his life essence and sacrificed it to Slaneesh.
I like this guy.
>>737301640>Reminder that Lorgar won"I didn't hear no bell?" - Corvus Corax.
>>737301640you posted the wrong pic
>>737301263They're just two sides of the same autistic coin.
>>737301787What is this evil cunt up to anyways? Being Abaddon's love boy?
>>737301640If he won so hard when will he leave his cuckshed to celebrate it with his sons?
>>737301853MUH LEARNING ENUNCIA FOR 10K YEARS
>>737301640How can you have a chiseled jaw like that and still be a massive inferiority complexed bitch?
>>737301943I she retarded? Normal people only take a few decades to learn it.
>>737302021Lorgar is indeed literally retarded.>>737301754He got his ass blasted by Corax and ran away like the little bitch he is.
>>737301943It can't be spoken by non-humans tho. It's a strictly human power vocabulary.
>>737301754>So utterly mindbroken that all he can do now is run around the Warp attacking statues of Lorgar that the Word Bearers build, knowing if he ever fought the real thing he'd get smashed to a pulp and have his feathers plucked to make new quill pensLmao>>737301853He knows his sons are in good hands with his best friends Kor Phaeron and >>737301787. He'll come out when the time is right and he has new books to share with them.
>>737302078Not true at all since it's believed the Old Ones were the ones that created it.
>>737302014He got height mogged by his entire family. Even his genetic mom is taller. Never underestimate the midge.
>40k thread about the lore Fucking finally.
>>737302014Lorgar was a man of religion. He put all others before himself.
>>737298581>>737299406Tzeentch would do forcefem while Slaanesh is for those who troon out willingly
>>737302120Shadow of the Past, they fought, Logar got bodied so hard he had to emergency port out and then ran straight to his bedroom to cry.
>>737302318Many such cases!
>>737302318>Shadows of the Past>"Dark Apostle Kalta-Ar seeks to raise a religious monument to gain his Primarch's favour. But when the warriors of the Legion begin to die in suspicious circumstances, he learns something has come hunting. Its true prey is not the Legionaries slaughtered by its hand, but the one whom they call father, the Daemon Primarch Lorgar."Yeah so Corvus is attacking statues.Lorgar has been in his tower since the Heresy ended, my dude.
>>737302318>Gav ThorpeLolLmao
>>737301624Can Primarchs do that? HH gives the impression that unlike Space Marines who literally cannot experience fear or most other emotions the same way normal humans do their personalities weren't altered from a human's baseline to compensate for their superhuman physiology. It's no wonder the bulk of them ended up messes, they were thinking faster than they could think.
someone bake a new bread, the rest of /v/ has been shit and this thread is comfy
>>737302728Demand Abelard to make one
>>737300917Perturabo is literally aspergers in demigod form
>>737301827He and Kor Phaeron fight over controlling the legion, and supposedly did something in the 13th Black Crusade. So not unlike Lorgar he's done pretty much fucking nothing until new books elaborate.
>>737303127Kor Phaeron, isn't he a mini Astartes? Not quite a full Space Marine like Luther? and they were both bullied for it?
>>737300917He should have fucked her instead.
>>737303706yes, but that doesnt matter anymore since he is juiced up by chaos blessings to such a degree, that he is far beyond any normal space marine
>>737302493Now try reading the entire story instead of the blurb. Here if you're too lazy to read it's had fans read part of it for you. Lorgar got bodied, hard and then had a melty. Imagine simping for Lorgar the Light Bringer haha! Nostalgia Nerd crewhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mY2C74e0S44&t=18shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6J4Q4AuI9YM
>>737303706Kor Phaeron was definitely bullied by half the legion, he was a controversial figure who become First Captain. Luther got jaded as hell, but yeah both got augmented to some degree to keep them going.
