>dark souls but trans
who fucking cares

>>737269758
It's a very good game yes. Not many guides though.

>>737269758
it's really good unironically

>>737269758
If you like atmosphere and exploration, you'll probably enjoy it a lot. A few nitpicks: you will need to look things up to be a completionist, but you can find most things yourself just by wallhugging. The combat isn't the most compelling part of the game, but it isn't terrible either. You can end up making yourself extremely OP by the midpoint of the game. I'd say generally the first half is stronger than the last few areas. Overall 8/10 for me.

>>737269758
Its mediocre at best.
Stole areas and enemies from dark souls 3. For no reason at all you cant pause and you must equip healing items to hot keys.
Every level is just a dark corridor and there are areas that you cannot access without hints because the game doesnt tell you you need to use blood magic as a key on this door.
The end boss is literally just a dps check and you need to be max level to beat it unless you spam the attack button and out jank his healing.
Theres an obvious self insert troon demon girl thats literally in her own art style.
You move slow as fuck until you invest dozens of points in the go faster stat.
Dude straight up just stole the moonlight greatsword.
If you wander down one wrong dark corridor you cant see in youll find an maze with an inescapable death for no reason without warning and you move slow as fuck so this all wastes so much time.
Its soulless. Heartless. The guy stole ideas without improving them.
Also the only good songs are the ones the dev didnt make himself so like four of them.

>>737270371
Finding out that jumping was actually OP was really fun.

I don't like that there's a movement speed stat. It feels weird to be playing this kind of game while bunnyhopping at 100mph. Also the last boss is just a boring damage sponge that gets defeated by an Undertale moment.

Game feels very front loaded and as soon as you realise how broken speed is, the already uninteresting combat completely falls apart.

>>737269758
it's a weird game, it's really good at building atmosphere but the maps just suck in general, everything's either too spread apart or annoying to navigate, it also just kinda stops being a dungeon crawler at one point and you just start running around fast as fuck and such
it's just very disjointed it felt like to me, the first couple of zones are really good but that's about it

I want more king's field likes. Am I alone? Wouldn't it be nice if From released King's Field 5 next?

>>737269758
>Outside the pronouns, is it any good?
No, a game with pronoun selection can't be good.

>>737269792
You are a big gay.

>>737269758
Its great fun. The pronouns dont even have any relevence in game. People are just whiny.

Also, dungeons of blood and dream is pretty great. Its a roguelike first person dungeon crawler with no pronouns whatsoever.

Check out labyrinth of the demon king too. Its like kingsfield meets silent hill set in feudal japan/buddhist hell.
What is UU?

>>737269792
it's king's field dipshit

>>737270707
I wonder if they will even go back to slower shit at all. They used to intentionally slow things down (KF4 slower than 3, DS1 slower than Demons). But after Sekiro, AC6, Elden/Nightreign, and soon Duskblood, fast-fast-fast seems the only direction. I'm not nostalgiafagging and going
>remember when From was small and WEIRD???
But as an aging oldfag I do appreciate slower methodical combat.

lunacid has a gay tranime style. i'd recommend this game much more
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYnBVbaGWK4

>>737270957
the name still cracks me up but the demo was solid enough, shit needs to come out soon

>>737270957
>troon's troomain gender reveal

>>737270836
this. it's just embarrassing that even major companies are putting this crap in their games. it soils the whole product (as if they could get any worse). it's like if in the 90s and 2000s you could tick off an "emo" box when creating your character. back then we didn't legitimize teenagers' silly phases

>>737270707
it would be, but in general i just want fromsoft to experiment again and make weird games again which is how they came up with kings field and the souls games in the first place, because they were genuinely novel, unique and experimental games. i feel like the souls games have reached a critical level of flanderization and we as a culture need a break from those games.

doesn't matter how good it is, mental illness should not be encouraged

>>737270952
Miyazaki is obsessed with action games so I don't see them slowing down their games anytime soon.

>>737270952
it really has been all downhill since DS3.

>>737269758
>Outside the pronouns
>Other that *that*, Mrs. Kennedy, did you enjoy the trip to Texas?
When your parents bury you they will use your real name. When future archaeologists dig up your remains, they will know you were and always will be a man.

>>737271174
it's important to remember that in Japan From was prolific for pumping out shitty games. Only later did they become a 1 or 2 game studio.

>>737271185
Autism is mental illness. Trannyism is evil. Do not equivocate a sickness of the mind or body with a sickness of the soul.

>outside the pronouns
Uninstall

/r/gcj raid thread

>>737269758
I got like thirty hours of enjoyment out of it. It's a good first person dungeon crawler. Some variety in it's environments. I played it as a wizard though. You find a lot of spells so it's worth int dumping. Don't play it if seeing a pronoun selector at character creation is one of your triggers. I hate Kira had to put that in there to own the chuds or whatever the fuck they were thinking. It's like I'm watching two groups of retards fight. But in hindsight it means a Lunacid thread is guaranteed replies.

Love your work Kira. Don't give a fuck about your politics make another Lost In Vivo you're great at that. Thanks champ

>>737271235
>>737271185
>>737271091
>>737270957
>>737270836
>>737269792
Good god. I don't like tranny shit either but you people are obsessed.

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>>737271257
of course, but they are not definitely experienced within game design to such an extent that they can get new young people with creative minds to start making interesting conceptual games, but with the backbone of solid game design that they now possess. i just want unique games again with unabashed idiosyncrasies. for a non-japanese example, think games like Pathologic or The Void. you may like them or not, but you cannot deny their uniqueness and daring nature.

>>737271370
I vote with my wallet

>>737269758
It's alright, it's a little simple and the quality of the areas is kind of a bell curve where the beginning is bland, the middle is good and the end is bland again, and you can break it completely if you level up dex and move speed too much because nothing will be able to keep up with you.
The story is unfortunately complete garbage, they set up an interesting world but completely squander it with a shitty meta ending.

Grimrock was better

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>>737269758
Yes.
I'd also recommend Verho, it's almost the same gsme but it feels more complete.

>>737271370
It's genuinely warranted on this game. The only reason why it even has pronouns is out of spite.

>>737271231
>yet you watch anime
oh, do I now?

>>737271478
I'm finding this one way more boring than I found Lunacid. I mean I don't hate it. It's fine I guess.

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The ending is shitty artsy stuff and the secret hunting was great until it started doing shit with the phases of the moon IRL. I didnt enjoy setting my system date to different times and going back to search for what changed do an ingame time system and dont fucking have so many phases in such a large world. Like it would be one thing if it was full moon half moon and no moon but theres like 9 moon phases and i just couldnt go around DOOM humping the same map through all the phases.

TLDR gameplay is good all ending including the true ending are artsy garbage and not worth pursuing

>>737271401
Games are rarely creative pursuits anymore. In fact, they aren't even games anymore. Everything takes itself too seriously to add cheat codes or big head mode. Or if they did, it would be for sale.
Even the kids games are about training new consoomers. Even something as simple and novel as Earth Defense Force is such a hard sell today. And that game's entire thing is to be a type of over the top movie parody.

>>737271536
Lunacid does have better music and vibes so I do find it more immersive, but I hate how a third of the gameplay is you just getting lost and keep circling around

>>737269758
Its good. Makes me want more like it.

>>737271571
>Woke
that's your problem

>>737271469
Going to out myself as a retard but do they fall into the same category? Still the same squaredancing but the grid movement and RPGisms make me think more of blobbers

>>737272027
What the fuck are you talking about I never mentioned anying about woke you retard

>>737271619
I'm still pretty early on I wager. Been going slow and exploring (even re exploring) each area cause I don't wanna miss anything. Just found a campsite with a guy saying he knows how to defeat some ghost boss with a ancient tablet. Fortunately I already had said tablet cause I went and cleared out the flower monster dungeon before I found the campsite guy. Then I took a break and am now here. I feel like there was something else in that Temple of Kurask(?) or as I call it flower town cause I did find a tombstone behind a secret wall and never figured out what to do with it. Again I'm not hating the game, it just didn't or hasn't sunk it's teeth into me like Lunacid did.

>>737272082
I'd say no. But that anon thinks Eye of the Beholder and Legend of Grimrock are like Lunacid or Kings Field. That anon is the retard.

>>737272102
You're at the begining and the game does become more eldritch later on
plus the game is way longer than Lunacid on top of having a new game+ so take your time

>>737272082
they're both dungeon crawlers at heart

>>737272089
>woke the old one
it was a funny

>>737269758
>Outside [OBVIOUS TURNOFF], is it any good?
The answer is no

>>737269758
I didn’t like it solely because the game itself seems to be all over the place. It’s completely tone deaf despite the genuinely awesome art style, the gameplay itself doesn’t feel very satisfying, and the story may as well not even exist. The pro/noun nonsense is the least of the game’s problems, but lots of people seemed to like it anyway, so I’d say you’re better off trying it before buying it.

Though I think he released a free spiritual successor to the game in an actual King’s Field engine.

>>737269758
What is UU?

>>737272082
>Going to out myself as a retard but do they fall into the same category
No, only retards would put them in the same box

>>737272567
That free game is real bad. And I liked KF 2-4. Still cool though that from software made a King's Field maker tool.

>>737272642
Ultima Underworlds

>>737270950
The game is absolutely nothing like King’s Field in any case, kek

>>737269758
If you haven't played Arx Fatalis that's a swell KF/UU type of game. There's a great fanpatch that fixes it up too called "Arx Libertatis".

>>737269758
Not really, but it does have janky platforming to sequence break by building jenga towers out of coffins.

>>737272705
>real bad
Kek really? I have it in my library but never got a chance to check it out. What’s so bad about it? Just boring as shit or what?

>>737272567
>the game itself seems to be all over the place
THAT'S why I like it thoughever
I hate games set in one setting or set in some generic realistic worlds with generic fields/forests/mountains, I'd much prefer if each area felt completely unique

>>737271370
ACK yourself troon

>>737272567
>It’s completely tone deaf
thats not what those words mean

>>737269792
>dark souls but trans
people really just like to chime in despite having no knowledge of the thing being discussed

>>737272841
It's just very old. The game engine. It feels like KF1 which I'm not a big fan of. I only played it for an hour before moving on. It's just a prequel to Lunacid story wise but it's nothing amazing even if you were someone super invested by Lunacid lore. It was just a silly side project and you can tell. Something to give Kira an excuse to try out the Kings Field Maker Tool I reckon.

>>737269758
the problem is that its blatantly unfinished and progression is extremely flat
good game if you value vibes/atmosphere

>>737272853
I wouldn’t mind it if it fell well-executed. In this case, it didn’t.

>>737272893
Yeah I admit I didn’t phrase that properly. The game has cool art style, that much is true. But it’s *actually* tone deaf and feels like an amalgamation of random ideas inserted at the request of patrons, which makes the world feel lazily strewn together. Seems like this doesn’t bother many people, but it definitely bothered me. I prefer a world that feels coherent and meticulously crafted. This game, IMO, is a case of when “it just werks” doesn’t work.

>>737272263
>You're at the begining
I assumed so. Apparently there's a village coming up I haven't found yet. Good to hear it's longer though I was worried I was actually halfway done or something.

>>737269758
The game has several key items that are supposed to seem like they lead to secrets but they actually have no function at all and exist purely to waste your time

>>737273152
>feels like an amalgamation of random ideas
could you be more specific? curious to know what did and didnt work for you

>>737273172
>not at the village yet
that's like the hub area similar to in Lunacid, you're not even 10% into the game

>>737272671
exactly

>>737273352
Things like the NPCs with “kawaii” dialogue come to mind first and foremost. Another is that this incredible banger of a song starts playing in a fucking magical library, which felt completely off— like, confusingly so:
https://youtu.be/XKxom8KFt_8

There are probably more examples, but it’s been a long time since I played the game and those are the ones that come to the mind the most prominently. Just felt wacky as shit, but not in a funny way. More like in a “what was this idiot smoking” way.

never playing your tranny game

>>737271571
You didn't like the surprise rhythm minigame at the end? I loved it. But whenever a game drops that mechanic in my lap I'm literally "I've been waiting for this!" guy.

>>737269758
>Outside the pronouns
just play other shit, are you that morally bankrupt?

>>737274129
>morally bankrupt
This is by far the most ridiculous hill to die on, anon. It’s up to you to make that choice but don’t make the mistake of thinking others should do the same.

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>>737272089
>least retarded Troonacid fan

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>>737273364
I thought of a complaint. You can climb on most if not all the trees in this forest. And I haven't done that but I'm sitting here thinking to myself "I swear to god if the dev stuck a cool spell or ring on top of one of these, well I won't do anything but I sure would be upset". Some of the items I've found required me to leap up into spots I thought looked like no one would put something up there and lo and behold there's some crafting materials.

>>737274129
>Game is generally alright
>But it has a pronoun selection therefore I will never touch it
It never even comes up in gameplay, it doesn't affect anything. Why does it matter to you that much? IIRC the dev wrote the code for it in like 5 minutes to 'own the chuds' or something which says more about them than it does us.

>>737274679
I mean you're not gonna change any minds. They're entrenched. For the long haul. I even get it, but because I don't screech about it I'm just as bad as their worst envisioned enemy they saw on ticktok.

>>737274193
Not him but devs that add this shit to their devs are hollow husks that cannot create anything of value. I don't play tranny games because pronouns sunder my soul, I don't play them because they're shit made by retards.

>>737274679
pronoun selections are transphobic. I would never support such a hateful dev.

>>737275534
"okay"

>>737275534
Well I can’t argue with that, the dev definitely seems like something of a dumbass. Amazing to me that stupid people are able to be driven enough to make vidya, but I digress.

It might be good but I'll never know, I don't play games made by literal trannies.

>combat is complete ass
>exploration is ok but can get confusing in the more samey levels + only like 1/4th of the areas are actually fun
>non existent story
>tranny characters who might as well be ocs of the devs friends
it's extremely mid and is carried by being the first real indie attempt at a king's field

>>737275825
>>combat is complete ass
>>exploration is ok but can get confusing in the more samey levels + only like 1/4th of the areas are actually fun
Pretty accurate to Kings field.

>>737275921
which is why they aren't making more of them

>>737275748
he posted, on 4chan

>>737269758
>Outside the pronouns, is it any good?
I didn't give a shit about the pronouns, in fact I chose one of the absolutely ridiculous pronouns just for fun, and I don't think you're ever referred to by your pronouns.

Anyway, it's not very good. I played it for like 8 hours, but then I just never felt like playing it again. At the end of my play session, I was already over it. All of the progression is done via "secret" passage ways that you need certain skills or certain stat parameters in order to reach or pass through. This is cool a few times, but when you realize that all progression is gatekept via "secrets" like this, it starts to feel a lot less cool and becomes (You) just wandering around, scanning for any sort of "secret" passageways so that you can progress.

>>737269758
>trans field

>>737276628
>and I don't think you're ever referred to by your pronouns.
yea, you aren't. they have no bearing on the actual game. iirc the dev specifically added them in an update just to own le chuds. which is why you should never support such a dumb faggot

>>737276904
>which is why you should never support such a dumb faggot
Look man, I'm simply above all this culture war trash. I don't like pronouns and the alphabet mafia or anything like that, but Lunacid looked like it might be a neat game so I pirated it just like I do with all games that I'm interested in playing. It wasn't a good game and that has absolutely nothing to do with the pronouns, which I actually thought was funny. They are so ridiculous that it's clearly a joke to have included them, in my opinion. I chose the most ridiculous set of pronouns and I still didn't finish the game because I dislike how everything is just "scour every corner for a "secret" which is the only way to progress". It just gets annoying after a while.

>>737269792
*King's Field

>>737269758
>it's... shallower than you'd think it should be, especially regarding your equipment
>needs a bugfixing pass
>ranged weapons like guns and bows are glitchy and fire through things pretty often. Guns do this more than anything else
>the dev explicitly 100% added pronoun and neopronoun stuff to make people mad on purpose, then promptly pulled the "I'm not mad, YOU'RE mad, it's just a videogame" thing right after the big 1.0 update when the game's playerbase died despite the update finally completing the game (note: the game's peak was the day that update hit)
>>adds a text file to let you edit what pronouns are in the selector, saying you can be whatever you want
>>gets mad when people change it to just he/him and she/her
>ranged/magic is OP as hell because you don't need to engage with any enemies up close and there's not enough ranged enemies to matter
>magic is basically mandatory because all your mobility and platforming shit is in there too
>raising your movement speed and jump height makes you invincible because everything's telegraphed as hell and basically no enemies can hit you. Also you need it for parkour stuff because duh.
>basically nobody's gendered in the whole game (even Shelly and her bird tits) except for the dev's OP mary sue demon girl (the dev's D&D character). Take note the dev's a non-passing MtF and the demon girl is explicitly a "she/her" who beat Death and took its weapon
>most secrets are just wall-humping until you find something, which is kinda... eh. Accurate to KF though
>there's a whole weapon leveling system, but it's so shallow and underused that it's basically irrelevant, plus there's no branching paths or anything so it's kinda dull
>shockingly easy, for some reason despite no defense mechanics
>racial choices are completely unbalanced to a crazy degree
>most of the "TV filter" stuff is actually illegible because the dev never tested it
>entire second half of the game is shit
>endings are shit

>>737271159
>Major companies
This game was made by 1 guy.

>>737277243
i mean yea it's not a very good game, i'd give it a 4 or maybe a 5. but i would never pay money for it even if it was 10/10 just because of the tranny

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>>737277340
>who beat Death and took its weapon
you can also do this and it radically affects the gameworld when you do so she's likely not telling the whole truth
also she's blatantly based on this character from shadow tower

>>737277482
I already told you I pirate all games. Stop trying to bring me into your culture war trash. Sometimes it really is just about video games. You're too zoomerpilled and 2026-/v/ brained to understand.

>>737277682
kill yourself tranny

>>737269758
From when I played it, first 2 hours or so is great. But then the player gets too overpowered and the game becomes somewhat boring.

>Hello fellow fourchanners! I am definitely not a paid shill or the developer of this game, and while I totally agree that pronouns are lame and gay, you should really try this random no-name indie game that has them! It's totally cool I swear!

Fuck of, OP is a fag, literally in this case

>>737277724
I'm a straight White pureblood (i.e. unvaccinated) man, you seething retard.

Like I said way up above. I think Kira doing the whole "I'm adding pronouns cause I'm mad" was a retarded thing to do. But look at all the attention it got because of that. Going off the "all publicity is good publicity" mindset it worked. Guaranteed replies.

>>737277836
you cant tell me what thread im allowed to post in, faggot

>>737275580
Okay.
>>737275687
Ye, the tranny shit in games always correlates with shit content. Non-retarded devs simply wouldn't have put tranny shit in their games.
Gamedev isn't actually cognitively challenging, it's mostly a matter of patience in learning and executing repetitive tasks.

>>737269758
No, it fucking sucks, just shit progression and worse maps. Literally the worst maps of any KF-like I've played.
And I'm a total tranny enabler. It's just bad. Flat fucking planes for levels and like two WinXP maze screensaver maps. Literally one level with more than one wall texture is the fucking castle which has less going for it than the Order of Ecclesia drac castle. Bad game. Kira is a total hack. I will remain a chaser.

>>737277243
>I'm simply above all this culture war trash.
Not him but you're a retard who thinks being gullible is the same as being impartial. You'll die a fool who never learned to recognize patterns between retarded devs and shitty games.

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>>737278041
>Gamedev isn't actually cognitively challenging, it's mostly a matter of patience in learning and executing repetitive tasks.
post your game

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>>737269758
I shall not be buying.

>>737278136
Why would I want to autistically sit on my ass for 10-16 hours a day typing lines of code for years on end?

>>737278057
I love trannies, trans rights forever, and putting out this fucking garbage in a genre that lives or dies on dungeon design is disgusting. I wish the pronouns incident never happened because fucking retards who don't play any of these games are polluting my opinions with their transphobia when I think it's just fucking bad.
Trans rights are human rights, and Lunacid fucking stinks.

>>737269758
The earliest levels are neat, the game gets worse as you go due to devolving level design standards and enemies not keeping up with your levels

>>737278116
I am impartial, not gullible. I wanted to play a game, so I played it. Culture war drones sit in this thread shitposting about a game because it has pronouns that don't do anything. For the record, I didn't even know about the pronouns when I pirated this game, which wasn't very good. I need to keep saying this because you're a culture war shitposter who is entirely unconcerned with video games.

Actually, I'm just gonna leave the thread and unfollow it. I've already said that I didn't like the game very much, and multiple people are still trying to start shit with me for expressing my honest negative opinion about this game. Which is weird because the people who are angry at me also didn't like the game, but they didn't play it either.

>>737278652
Who's mind do you think you're gonna change is my question. What are you trying to prove to anyone? Prove something to yourself? I think you just wanted to have an arguement. Which hey best place to do it. We're all just farting into the wind here.

Anyone play Labyrinth Of The Demon King? Is it similar to Lunacid?

>>737278797
It's been sitting on my drive for what a year now? I've heard good things. But I don't think it's has the "variety" of areas that Lunacid tries to. I'm pretty sure it's all just "everything's old and rusty looking. And japanese".

>>737278652
You're a low IQ nigger who loves to hear his own voice and get high off his own farts, which is why you repeat the same self-indulgent dogshit even when challenged on it. You're also a pathetic coward who's incapable of standing your ground so now you're running away in order not to have to think about the dumb shit you say.

Queen's Domain seems like it might end up being a non-faggot successor to King's Field.

>>737278309
>Trans rights are human rights
why? should we start enabling schizophrenics and anorexic people while we are at it by chanting "schizophrenic lives are human lives!" and "anorexic lives are human lives!!" and as we keep enabling their delusions? fyi, i am not even a hateful primitive chud like 99% of anons here who are just reactionary, but i advocate an empathetic no to "trans rights" rather than screaming an unempathetic no like chuds do or an unempathetic yes like the wokes do.

>>737278797
it's not similar at all. i wouldn't even say it's a king's field-like even if it seems loosely "inspired" by it. it's just a first person horror game with SOME dungeon crawling elements. as for whether it's good or not? ehh, it depends. as a horror game it's good. great atmosphere and themes and all that. the gameplay has a couple fundamental problems though. respawning enemies is my number one complaint, because of how dungeons are structured. for example: you'll clear all enemies on floor 1, have to go to floor 2 (with a loading screen so it's treated as a separate area), clear all the enemies on floor 2, then have to go back to floor 1, where all the enemies respawned. so you have to clear everything again, then you get what you need and have to go back to floor 2, where all the enemies respawned. it's fucking annoying. there's also a few sections where large unkillable nemesis type enemies chase you throughout the level, which is something i personally dislike. it's a good game though. very cool designs, aesthetic, and feel to it

>>737278931
the problem is that queen's domain will forever be a Coming Soon (tm) indie game, doomed to never fucking come out

>>737279042
dude, the demo has just been out for two months. give it some time. better a quality game than an unfinished gay unoriginal one like lunacid.

>>737279042
Isn't that just Monomyth?

>>737272774
culture warring kikeloving retard who has never played a single king's field alert

>>737269758
That's literally a Titanite demon. Get this troonshit off my board.

>>737278995
Schizophrenic and anorexic lives are human lives. If chanting that while walking past a Walmart every other year stops a few suicides, isn't that a complete positive? What's the alternative, just die? This isn't hereditary, you'll have just as many trannies and shizos the next year too.

>>737279121
i've done this song and dance too many times my friend

>>737275825
the combat is great, and anyone who thinks it's "bad" hasn't played it nor a single king's field nor shadow tower, fuck off

>>737279223
Not him but """people""" like you are why at this point I just think the only way to stop civilization from collapsing is to authoritatively exterminate anyone who thinks like you. That anon could explain to you how selling psychological snake oil will only make individual lives and society as a whole worse and lead to far more misery, and by the time of the next thread you'd have learned fucking nothing. You'd still continue to sell the same hurtful delusion, the same ruinous ideas, and think yourself virtuous for it. Just putting you out of our misery would lead to a far better world than pleading for you to see reason ever would.

>>737279223
the alternative is to give them help, which we already do and it works. gender dysphoria is by definition a mental illness. it is dysphoric; meaning something that is profoundly disordered and difficult to bear. that does not make you worth less, nor does it make you undeserving of help. but help, in this case, does not mean enabling delusions just like we wont enable the delusions of the schizophrenic or the anorexic. i feel for people with gender dysphoria and think they should have the right to get appropriate help, but i will not accept a radical change of our conception of reality to fit their delusion.

>>737279298
the combat is not great man, blocking and parrying are completely useless and every encounter in the entire game is trivial "run in, whack once, back up immediately to avoid the counter, repeat"
i got the moonlight greatsword, the ONLY room out of 50 that was even slightly difficult was the literal final room with the only enemy in the entire game that could put up a remote challenge, every other enemy in the game might as well be a punching bag

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>>737269758
It's an alright game.
>Combat
It starts out as a more forgiving King's Field but as the game goes on and you gain more powers, it quickly devolves into Half-Life combat with you just endlessly strafing enemies to death and b-hopping through the map. It's decently fun, it's just poorly balanced with the player outscaling everything halfway through.
>Story
The story is a forgettable artsy mess that includes typical grimdark elements such as eldritch beings and lots of death. Also one of the major lore points is that there's a lesbian couple that caused things to go to shit which is hilariously accurate.
>Exploration/World
Worldbuilding ranges from "that's cool" to "that's fucked" to "what is this garbage" depending on your tastes. The world/areas you traverse through are cool but that's it, the actual level design is mostly lacking (which may be accurate to king's field in some sense). The creatures you run into are more interesting than the NPCs at times, especially if you find a certain hidden secret a hidden alphabet that translates an initially useless spell that lets you look into any creature's mind. It's basically just more pointless lore.
Secrets usually involve just rubbing yourself along walls, with some of the more prominent secrets being obscure as fuck, especially with a major one involving the IRL moon phases which sounds cool on paper but is retarded as fuck.
>Atmosphere
One of the good parts of this game. One of the early areas is a catacomb and the ambient sound is oppressively tense. Some OST is alright, maybe pretentious especially since the game shows you the track that's currently playing in the corner whenever you enter a new area.
>Art Style
Pretty good IMO. A mixture of styles ranging from the medieval to victorian, with the occasional horror and eldritch getting thrown in. A good amount of the areas are pretty beautiful to look at, barring navigation.

>>737279406
Nigger I am not a tranny lay off the "ooh booh I have to genocide now because your 'maybe all trannoids shouldn't die' rhetoric doesn't work with my KILL ALL TRANNIES rhetoric."

>>737279540
It is. Medicine is such a fucking joke, we can't fix anything. Obviously you don't fix depression by handing a dude a gun, but nothing is doing doing anything, it's all minor fixes by degrees. We reduce people to statistics and do nothing but make society worse - reductionist rhetoric hurts everyone, not just the outliers.

I think the best thing we can do is normalize it. So you can call out the legit evil perverts who try to ride by on martyrdom, help the average goof, and above all, most importantly, remind everyone in this thread that LUNACID SUCKS without any stupid culture aspect.

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>>737276070
Yeah if they remove the molasses combat it's not really KF anymore, for better or for worse. \

>>737279893
A tranny enabler is worse than a tranny because at least the tranny will probably remove himself from the equation. You need to be sought out and exterminated in the meantime.

Take solace in the fact that you live in a universe devoid of a loving god, because otherwise scum like you would have been dragged to hell a long time ago.

>>737280327
completely disagree. id love the exploration, level design and RPG of kings field, paired with insanely solid first person combat like Dark Messiah or something. dont see why we cant have that

>>737279298
dude like 2 hours into the game you start running laps around enemies, zooming around the map and whacking shit. and then the final boss invalidates all of that and is pretty much only beatable with magic otherwise you're gonna have the worst of times. it's not fun

>It's a consolebabs pretend jap shit like King's Field was ever acceptable thread

>>737280365
Your genocidal shower fantasies aren't intimidating anyone. Anyone can type words. Nigger faggot coon coon barbed-wire gargling spic, ooh, words.
Grow up. 12 year olds grow out of your "anyone who isn't me dies now" opinion the second their balls drop because you can't kill all women, just hurry up and drop your balls.

>>737280327
there are a lot of cool qualities from KF that are worth exploring as a game dev but it also has a lot of flaws and poorly designed elements. if you're making a KF-like it's important to understand you don't need to bring the flaws as well, if something is shit it's ok to leave it behind and explore the interesting parts of the original games

>>737280564
>Your genocidal shower fantasies aren't intimidating anyone
See, you're fucking retarded. I make it clear multiple times you're entirely safe even though you don't deserve to be and you still narcissistically imagine like someone's trying to threaten you. Stupid faggot, if demons existed - I'd assume you're one of them.

>>737280629
>See,
Faggot detected, you argue like a woman, opinion discarded.

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>>737280687
>>See,
>Faggot detected, you argue like a woman, opinion discarded.

>>737280760
You have cuck porn saved to your hard drive.

>>737269758
I'm nonbuynary

>>737280392
I had the same feeling until finally playing Arx and couldnt shake the feeling that it was stuck in the awkward middle - not slow and threatening as KF, nor as commanding and immediate as Arkane's games. (Still enjoyable all together though.)
Whether it's really just a matter of player empowerment via controls vs environment or design factors, I'm not sure. But it's something From intuits pretty well (especially after replaying Shadow Tower Abyss after beating the KF's) and I think like >>737280586, other people just bring in full package without questioning - Lunacid being the perfect example. Losing too much by giving the player too much.
that all said, the damage Oblivion/Skyrim did on pushing the design space towards open world just really did a number on this genre

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>>737280882
>You have cuck porn saved to your hard drive.

>>737269758
Very much. It's not perfect, but has quite a few good ideas. It also spurred a lot of people to make more KF-likes, like Queen's Domain and Verho: Curse of Faces.

I just wish Kira wasn't such a lazy bum and released the DLC already. Been craving for more.

>>737269758
It's wonderful. Highly immersive, weird in a creepy, yet intriguing way, and filled with hidden stuff. You can tell the dev had their brain chemistry permanently altered by uncanny PS1 titles and wants to share that feeling with the player.

>>737280564
I don't hate troons, but a lot of them are insufferable supremacist assholes, way too loud for their own good and in their obsessions they've reaped a lot of (well deserved) hatred, which has unfortunately seeped to those who are decent, although weird, folks.

>>737271370
they always will be because they will never be happy with who they are, not that the trans people are either but still

>>737280964
Arx goes to absolute fucking shit in the last quarter, so much so that it makes Dark Messiah look well balanced. KF knows to just get easier. Does Arkane play their own games?
You don't have to reply or defend I'm just mad at Arkane.

>>737271469
People THIS fucking stupid browse and post on /v/, remember that next time you wanna start an argument, it might be against a literal drooling retard like this guy

>>737269792
It’s not even close to dark souls LOL

>>737281107
I think if we wished death on anyone who annoyed us, this would be a short lived species. That said, I mean, let's be honest, a lot of them deserve it. Just looking at the big picture. 50 years from now, will we have changed things for the better?
That doesn't mean some trannoid cunt you're personally arguing with deserves amnesty, destroy them, just in general.

>>737271469
Grimrock has far more in common with Wizardry than KF, let's be honest here. Japs really liked SirTech's games and made their own too.

>>737280982
what even is this webm
what is so bad about that picture

>>737269758
I liked it. It's definitely more about atmosphere and exploration than combat or level designs. It leans pretty heavily on obscure secrets, but it can be pretty fun to find your way around all the same. I felt it was about an 8/10 personally, but that very strongly depends on what you value. I didn't mind its weak points when set against its strong points.

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>>737279616
>maybe pretentious especially since the game shows you the track that's currently playing in the corner
i like that, the whole game has this (i dont really know what words to use here) gimmick? where the game is not just the software itself but the asserted appearance of things around the software, calling to mind an imagined past where you see this on a tv at a game rental store or some supercrushed video of it on a game blog at 3am
some of it reminds me of that book that's a strategy guide for a game that doesnt exist (Vermis)
>all that sounds gay and pretentious
well thats just, like, your opinion, man

>>737281765
the biggest thing it can do IMO is just to add items that arent rings and weapons, there isnt enough difference between them to justify having so many and generally you get your one good weapon and ring to get you through the game and the rest are just pointless clutter

>>737281765
my post >>737279001 is about labyrinth of the demon king friend

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These posts are the most accurate. It’s kind of… half-baked?
The atmosphere and worlds feel interesting enough on their but are pretty much just a mish-mash whole-cloth ripoffs of entities from other atmospheric/rpg/spooky/dark fantasy games and anime art influences. Every now and then a really unique aesthetic choice comes about but it’s few and far between. I do like some of it but it all feels half-done. Fear and Hunger has a lot of the same issues but at least has - lot more effort put in to making its component influences work well together.

Same goes for the weapon scaling, difficulty, story, etc. It has potential but mostly reads as babby’s first game and mostly comes off as gen-z ~ps1 vibes~ slop that will probably appeal/seem impressive to those who can ignore its influences.

I still fondly remember a few specific areas though because all art tends to have interesting/memorable aspects.

Personally I recommend Psychopomp over it. Different genre but it actually tries to do more with its story and has a lot of the same atmosphere and vibes without the dark fantasy element. Come to think of it, it would be really interesting to see those two devs collab on a game.

>>737281765
>I do like some of it but it all feels half-done
this is exactly how i felt, every single area felt 50% finished, each one needed more enemies, points of interest, decorations and details, atmosphere, things to do and see

>>737269758
>Outside the pronouns,
ignored, next game please

>>737269758
Are the og kings field games actually fun? I need some gawmews to play for two weeks on a shitty laptop.

>>737281917
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>>737281981
What the fuck, everyone got the scorched earth post.

>>737281960
Is the commercial Psychopomp that different or are you comparing a failed dungeon crawler to a walking simulator and thinking that makes either looks good?
That was a lot meaner than I meant it to be. You can just call me an asshole or ignore me.

>>737282062
yes
but also fuck no, not at all
they're products of their time (which was early into the existence of 3D video games) and have a lot of interesting ideas but are almost all just extremely boring by today's standards and frustrating as hell to play

>>737273889
if it had dancing skeles getting funky I'd let it pass

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>>737282062
No, not really. Very nice levels though. Like really fucking nice levels.

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>>737281981
It also didn’t feel like there was much rhyme or reason behind the inhabitants of the world, their origins or relations to each other. It doesn’t feel very lived-in, more like a lot of fun ideas spliced and stitched together.

Not to harp on comparing it to Psychopomp but in PP you can tell that the enemies and worldbuilding are meant to read as opaque but all have very real thematic and relational stories tying it all together. I only compare them because they were released around the same time and have similar atmospheres.

>>737282062
30 years ago, yea
today? no. play the original resident evils

>>737282174
You have to go into a King's Field knowing that it's shit but with that, you'll have a great time. This is why no King's Field fan actually ever recommends King's Field. You'll find it. And you'll have a great time. It's not good, though.

>>737282171
havent played it since the demo long ago

>>737282231
This is bad because it implies that 30 years ago, there was any debate. RE was always a clear sweep. Well like 1 and 2.

>>737282295
i only mentioned resident evil because the anon said he needed some games to play on a shitty laptop

>>737282363
You got my ass and he should play those because they're really good.

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>>737282081
I haven’t tried Psychopomp Gold yet but I enjoyed what it did with its world, but partially because I relate to its unlikeavke paranoid schizo protagonist and feel like the game achieves what it sets out to do. It has a short playtime, is free, has unique vibes, world building, and story arc and has some really funny/pithy moments like talking to Cleopatra, Plato, and Alexander the Great. I like it but I also Yume Nikki is one of my favorite games so take my opinion with a grain of salt.

idk I’d give it a 6/10 whereas Lunacid feels like a 4.

>>737282062
kind of? The slow pace kind of makes it a weirdly chill experience that rewards you with dope ambience and aesthetics. How long that can take you is really up to preferences

>>737282402
i'll give your ass back to you you need it to sit and play video games

>>737270707
You're not alone and there's quite a few either out or in production.

>>737274062
NTA but, while it was a cool setpiece, it's a pretty wack rythm game section as far as those go.

>>737269758
Only the version made in the actual Sword of Moonlight engine that's free. Don't pay for the bad version.

>>737278797
Yes.
No.
It's a lot more like the old King's Field games. It's deliberately slow and limited. I liked it a lot, but it's not everybody's cup of tea. It's relentlessly oppressive outside of the one calm hub area.

>>737282171
It's more like fucking Skyrim than anything, just better.

>>737283012
>>737279001
i think the two main problem in LotDK come down to sprinting and stagger, in that you can just sprint and sprint in this "slow" game and that enemies stagger too easily (i don't think they should stagger at all) so sprinting forwards into a heavy attack then spinning around and sprinting away works on every single enemy in the game almost without fail since the enemies are all designed to be fought slowly and can be stunlocked easily
i genuinely feel that if you removed sprinting entirely from the game as a mechanic it would be a better game

>>737282171
this game is more immersive sim a la arx fatalis than kings field.

>>737269758
It’s fun but the ending is really disappointing in my opinion.
They tried too hard to turn it into some deep meta ending but it just falls flat.

>>737270952
KF4 was slower because the fucking thing ran at like 10 FPS.

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>>737282805
its a direct reference to drakengard 3 ending e

>>737269758
It's not that great, sadly. The aesthetics aren't bad, but sometimes it copies a bit too much like areas from the games it's drawing inspiration from. More importantly, the environmental/level design is a bit lacking, and the world just isn't as enjoyable to explore as in King's Field. The combat also somehow manages to be less fun than in King's Field, which surprised me, since I thought that was the one area that would be easy to improve upon. It's a bit of a nitpick, but the song names popping up when you enter new areas seems like a poor choice when trying to make an atmospheric, immersive game.

It does have a few things going for it, but overall I don't recommend playing it.

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>>737269792
Troon Souls

>>737284091
I know. It's still wack.

>>737283186
More like Morrowind

>>737284225
Yeah, that one. That's what I meant. My bad.

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>>737284193

Queer's Field

>>737269792
>Darksouls but trans
Eldenring?

>>737284426
bloodborne
but we're not ready for that discussion yet