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how was crash more popular than spyro?
the latter was basically the playstation's banjo-kazooie
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>>737281531
slightly older target audience so people playing the game actually talked about it.

I loved playing spyro as a kid, but any formal discussion I might have had about it would have been lost to aol chatrooms.
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>>737281531
nobody gave a fuck compared to mario 64 lmao
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>>737281531
Crash is just a cooler character.
I mean just look at this shit. Even my dad saw this and said "hell yeah." Crash 3 is one of the only video games I've ever seen him play.
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>>737281905
i mean come on
crash doesn't even speak while spyro balances cute and cool far more cleanly
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>>737282074
Well yeah Crash isn't really trying to be cute.
He's an unhinged violent retard just like me fr fr. Think edgy Loony Tune.
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>>737281531
So much for Iron Galaxy working on Crash 5, eh?
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>>737281905
Sadly crash will never be this cool again.
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>>737282275
why wouldn't you want a cute platformer protag?
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>>737281531
crash is a lot funner than spyro
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>>737282469
I like Spyro too but I'm getting the impression that you want to fuck Spyro right now
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>>737282501
crash 2, maybe
but between the original first game of each series, spyro wins out easily

>>737282574
ew, no
i just think he's rad
i was gonna post an image like this one instead but i couldn't find one i liked
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I hope Crash comes back and they just ignore everything from Crash 4. Just bury that shit.
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>>737281531
>how was crash more popular than spyro?

Crash's initial popularity came from being the official yet unofficial mascot of the Playstation 1 console. The character was originally owned by Universal Interactive, but for the Naughty Dog years, Universal practically made Crash a PS1 exclusive character, they allowed Sony to put Crash in a lot of their TV and print advertisements. Crash was seen as a Sonic tier Mascot for the Playstation. The first Crash Bandicoot was released on September 9th 1996 on the first year anniversary of the Playstation's North American September 9th 1995 launch. Even Sony japan adopted Crash as a Playstation 1 tier mascot. Unfortinutly when Sony bought Naught Dog they couldn;t take Crash with them. Crash was farmed out to Travellers Tales durring the PS2 era. Universal Interactive was bought out by Vivindi, who also owned Activision and Blizzard. Activision and Blizzard bought themselves out by forming a new company and buying a controlling share of stock from Vivindi. Microsoft came in later and just flat out purchased Acivision-Blizzard, as well as all of the old Universal interactive IP's including Crash and Spyro. Spyro actually did have a resurgence under the Skylanders name for a while. Activision has had mixed results with Crash. The remakes actually sold well. Crash 4 did not sell as well as they were hoping. But Nitro Karts is always a seller. People still associate Crash with the Playstation brand. Sometimes I wonder if Microsoft should just sell Crash to Sony. But maybe Crash still makes money? Crash has been a multi-Platform IP longer than he has been a Playstation exclusive IP. so the name holds weight.
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Crash games got better and cooler with each entry
Spyro games got kid friendly and dumber with each entry. By Spyro 3, you were playing as Spyro's dumb friends and doing random ass chores instead of actually just playing normally or even as Spyro.
>B-BUT COCO!
What about Coco, faggot?
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>>737282718
Ok well then to answer your question it's not that I don't want a cute mascot character it's that I'm spoiled for choice of cute mascot characters and have pretty limited options in the unhinged retard mascot department.
Like, you keep comparing Spyro to Banjo-Kazooie, sounds like you just want more Banjo-Kazooie. Crash was a more fresh, original idea I guess is my point.
That said Crash was very much a product of it's time. If you said Spyro was more timeless I'd probably agree with you. But it's more timeless precisely because of it's more conventional approach.
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>>737281905
Everything about this image is awesome, Coco especially which makes me mad she never got a motorcycle level for herself in that same outfit.
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>>737282074
dragon on a skateboard is not explored enough, we need another game like this
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>>737281905
This.

Spyro was Banjo-Kazooie? Well, Crash was PlayStation's Mario.
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>>737283781
>Crash was PlayStation's Mario.
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>>737284259
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>How is Mario more popular than Banjo Kazooie?
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>how was crash more popular than spyro?
spyro doesn't have a sister he gets pregnant
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>>737281531
Crash came first, Simple as
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I'll ALWAYS be mad over spyro
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>>737282074
Spyro only became "cool" in year of the dragon. He didn't do anything cool in the first two and his voice was goofy as fuck
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>>737281531
>the latter was basically the playstation's banjo-kazooie
That's exactly why. Crash was the Mario 64. Also, unlike mario, banjo and crash, spyro never took off in japan.
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>>737282804
>They call the next game Crash 4 again
Would be hilarious
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>How was crash more popular than spyro
A lot of it probably has to do with Crash having a fairly stable character over the years and lucking out a little better with the studio universal fucked over with mismanagement being way more experienced than the guys who worked on the new Spyro games.
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>>737283781
I hate this image, so much, because Crash is both and it's fairly important that he's both.
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>>737284651
>his voice was goofy as fuck
...Have you heard Crash's voice?
https://youtu.be/D6qdsj-SAnE?si=okIppkC7RypcQmhB
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>>737281531
It's the same reason it always is, it's not about advertising or cult popularity, it's about the publisher believing in the IP.

Universal didn't believe in Crash but did in Spyro for a while, Microsoft didn't believe in Banjo, Nintendo always believed in Mario.
If they don't believe, then they don't get more games and the IP is reduced to cult status.

All they have to do is make games and people will buy them, they don't even have to be good.
Spyro had a strong PS2 life even though they mostly weren't like the originals, Spyro was believed in for a while, all that needs to be done is giving a game the green light and money is guaranteed.

By all means Sonic should have died with the Dreamcast, but when the Dreamcast died, Sega had nothing but Sonic, so they put all their belief in him and despite a laundry list of bad games, he continues to sell.
Bubsy is still getting new games, Atari saw people still care about him and that gave them something to believe in, that's all they had to do.

I will reiterate, the games do not have to be good in order to sell, they just have to be there, and the only way for them to be there is for the owner of the IP to believe in it.
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>>737281531
Crash got put in a lot of ads as a defactor Playstation mascot early on.

Spyro was close enough in style to Mario 64/Banjo-Kazooie that it invited unfavorable comparisons. Better to do your own thing than be "The Poor Man's X".

Saying this as someone who wasn't really a fan of either and only used the PSX for Final Fantasy and Chrono Cross.
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>>737285373
>Saying this as someone who wasn't really a fan of either
I can tell, and you shouldn't samefag either.
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>>737284581
They use a condom.
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>>737281531
Crash is a bipedal mammal, so I guess he's more relatable.
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>>737285540
Fuck you no they don't
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>>737281531
Crash debuted first as this kind of rival to Sonic and Mario. He ticked alot of boxes of being this dual mascot of Looney Tunes inspired comedy and 90’s sensibilities i.e. constantly being shown with this deranged grin, thumbs up poses or using motorcycles and guns or even hip-hop adverts. A character is also elevated by their cast and tons of people like the supporting characters and villains of the series. By comparison only Spyro and Ripto are memorable in the original series which also introduces a shitton of NPC’s throughout the levels.
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>>737281531
For one thing Crash Bandicoot is a bipedal anthro. Those are always more popular than four legged talking animals as far as gaming goes. Even Insomniac openly said they needed to invent shitty Spyro Friends to be able to create gameplay ideas during Spyro 3 because Spyro himself being four legged was limiting.

Anthros will always be more popular in gaming over Talking Animals. The only domain where Spyro would fare better than Crash is animated media like CG movies. In animated movies its the reverse, Talking Animals are more profitable than anthros. So if Spyro wants to be popular in gaming he needs to become an anthro.
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>>737284581
I'd pay $60 for nothing but internal uterus shots of coco getting crash's batter pumped into her
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>>737286036
Spyro as an adult stands on two legs, but he's also pretty tall.
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>>737281531
Crash came out first
Spyro started after Crash ended
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>>737283781
Yeah he was both, now they think he's only left and pancakes XD
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>>737281531
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>>737282074
>crash doesn't even speak
It adds to the charm
>>737283781
My furaking GOAT is both actually
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>>737283178
i think i can agree with that
to your point about spyro being just more banjo-kazooie, i do think that each of the series have aesthetics and gameplay very much unique to themselves, rather than having much overlap
spyro has far more unique and creative worlds, objectives and NPCs, but banjo's are more memorable thanks to both the writing and specific characters being world hosts rather than a species


>>737288347
>It adds to the charm
don't wanna argue taste but i disagree
i think he'd be more likeable if he could be understood
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>>737281531
SIE stopped being a video game company over a decade ago so it's not really a surprise they're both dead in a ditch again
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>>737284908
Not goofy
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>>737288705
>Spyro is just blandly going around the levels.
they still have charm, imo.
like, after you complete the level and there are no enemies left to defeat, you have the same kind of peace and dreamlike stillness that you find in spyro 2's homeworlds
and i'll even say reignited keeps that kind of feeling
though a small part of this may be from nostalgia as i grew up with the original ratchet and clank
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>>737289037
if they made a completely non-interactive movie that was meant to be live-rendered on PS5, people would buy the shit out of it
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crash got ctr, which is the best kart racer of all time, and crash bash as well which was a hit with the kids
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Is there a massive difference in their popularity? I guess I'm biased because I played the fuck out of both back in the day, had all the titles on PlayStation and shit. Both got a comeback with their remakes. Hell, both even had rather disappointing next-gen games that happened in the PS2/GameCube era which killed their momentum for a good amount of time. Enter the Dragonfly was so bad, I brought it back to the store. May have influenced me to not try Wrath of Cortex.

>>737290861
>someone posts Isabella
Great, now I have to say that I want to make her a mother.
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>>737281531
We hate dragons here.
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>>737281531
Because "classic go from A to B avoiding hazards 2D platformer" but on 3D gameplay is superior to collectathons.
There's a reason why the later immediately died.
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>>737292163
>"classic go from A to B avoiding hazards 2D platformer" but on 3D gameplay is superior to collectathons.
what a disgusting opinion. 3D environments are meant to be explored and roamed around like a playground, not blitzed through like you were a rabid badger
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>>737281790
No one that isn't a tendie cares about SM64. Spyro and Crash were remastered for PS4 where they were competing with current games and millions of people still bought them and enjoyed them. Meanwhile SM64 is stuck rotting on the Nshitty4 and if they re-released it now people would just see that it aged like dogshit
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>>737293546
They did re release it you mongoloid
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>>737281531
Crash=Person shape
Spyro=Animal shape

It's as simple as animals not being as popular as human like characters, that's why mosy animals in gaming are anthropomorphized like Sly Cooper or Sonic. No one want to play as an actual animal. DK is an exception, monkeys are already anthro.
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Crash games are better for one
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How is it that they both had incredible trilogies on the ps1 but both completely shat the bed on the next console gen, the ps2 games sucked so much ass they almost killed their respective franchises
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>>737296345
No one wants to play as an actual human either, but that still gets forced all the time.
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>>737281531
Crash was for teen, Spyro for kids
>but I played both
We all did, doesn't change you would get bullied more if you admitted playing Spyro than Crash.
Although you better be discussing Tomb Raider, Tekken or Gran Turismo is you wanted to be vaguely cool (as far as being a vidya faggot in the 90s could).



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