Shuhei Yoshida, the former head of Sony Worldwide Studios (the division now known as PlayStation Studios) has remarked that he was “fired” from the role by then-CEO Jim Ryan, “because I didn’t listen to him.”Speaking at the 2026 edition of Australian games festival ALT: GAMES, the 31-year PlayStation veteran introduced himself by recounting his long career, including his transition from leading PlayStation’s first-party studio efforts for over a decade to becoming the company’s indie game evangelist as Head of PlayStation Indies.“I helped Santa Monica to make God of War, Naughty Dog to make Uncharted and The Last of Us, and Sucker Punch to make the beautiful Ghost of Tsushima,” he said, describing his work during the 2000s. “Ghost of Tsushima was one of the last games that I worked on as the president of Worldwide Studios.”“But in 2019, after 11 years leading the first-party development, I was fired from the role.” “Jim Ryan wanted to remove me from first-party because I didn’t listen to him,” he said jovially, prompting laughter from the audience. “He asked to do some ridiculous things, and I said ‘No.'”When Guerilla Games co-founder Hermen Hulst was announced the new Head of Worldwide Studios, Sony was vague about the terms of the transition, simply saying that “Yoshida will leave his current position as President, WWS, to become head of a newly formed initiative that will focus on nurturing external independent creators.”https://thisweekinvideogames.com/news/shuhei-yoshida-says-jim-ryan-fired-him-from-playstation-studios-because-i-didnt-listen-to-him/
>>737289331It was the best decision Sony's higher ups have ever made
>>737289465Firing Yoshida and putting Hulst in that position was a good decision? Is that you Jimbo?
>>737289331Replaced by faggotface Hulst who has been completely useless at his job.
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>>737289505Playstation needed a change in leadership if it wanted to grow, and according to PS5 generation sales numbers from the latest shareholders presentation they have been able to do just that
>>737289619lol
>>737289331Yoshida-san could you ple-FUCK YOU GAIJIN PIG I'LL NEVER DO IT WTF I'M BEING FIRED NOOOO
>>737289465Hulst is that you?Stop trying to force your pet project Horizon into relevancyNo one likes it
>>737289505The worst thing Sony could be doing right now is having anyone on staff who could potentially be making a good video game if they were not at Sony.
>>737289331Oh hey, I was at that "festival". They have a steam page up: https://store.steampowered.com/curator/46014622/sale/ALTGAMES2026Wouldn't actually buy any of those games to be completely honest but I had a swell time
>>737289331If your boss asks you to do something over and over again, and you don't do it, why are you shocked you get the boot
>>737289957Where shock?
>>737289891eurocucks ruin everything
>>737289957If you as a boss ask your employees to do something retarded over and over again, don't be surprised when you have to jump ship after all your talent has left
>>737289331Big Jim assfucked MS by forcing them to carve up their Activision buyout to keep regulators happy so he's earned my eternal respect
>>737290742Sure, like they would have kept it exclusive otherwise
>>737290562Jim ryan is american
>>737289465FPBP
>>737289465I agree since it signal the start of the downfall of SIE and its studios
>>737290905They would if it made sense. It's massive leverage that can shift the market. ms should never have been allowed to buy anything.
>>737291038You don't understand the market. People play call of duty because it's convenient, if it stopped being convenient they would jump to something else just like they did with halo. Ms shouldn't be allowed to buy anything just like anyone else
>>737290905They wanted a three year multiplat agreement for all Acti games (pointless because they don't make anything except COD anyway) which extended to ten and then permanent for COD. And it was such a clusterfuck that MS is now going full multiplatform anyway>Bu bu bu muh brown queen saidDon't worry we know how gullible you are
>>737291292Source?Also what the fuck Is that last line, wrong post?
>>737291162People stick to what they know. They'd lose a few playstation diehards, but scoop up the rest.
>>737292521What they know is playstation
>>737289619Saaaar redeem the ps... more fifa and cod pls and make me ceo saaar
>>737289331Jim Ryan and Herman Hulst's plan was to completely de-Japan the company and ensure total Western dominance. That's why you got anime game censorship as Jim was climbing up the ladder (happened mid 2018, Jim was nominated CEO in early 2019, so he had the influence), that's why Japan lost the X cancel/O confirm feature, that's why Japan Studio was closed, that's why they started not showing Japanese games on their showcases (except for Square Enix, and Sony was clearly instructing them on how to develop their games "for the West" ala Forspoken and FFXVI)Hopefully Nishino can clean up this decade long mess, he said he wants to restore Playstation in Japan. He showed at least one JP anime tiddy game in that Japan focused State of Play already (the Disgaea musou), I wanna be optimistic about him.
>>737289619yeah they've been growing alrightgrowing their debt lmao
>>737289465no one likes horizon hulst
>>737289331Funny, because now Jimmy Boy Ryan was fired and soon Herman Hulst will follow him given the failures of Marathon and the upcoming FairGame$, seeing Sony's Tokyo SIE branch take full control of PlayStation starting with the PS6 console and handheld will be a pure delight.>>737289465It will also be great because faggots like this will eat shit going forward.
>>737290742Microsoft did that to themselves when they finally looked at those terrible Xbox numbers, kek.
>>737293576Nishino is gutting the whole western branch, Sony indicates that they no longer need them since Xbox is dead. Seeing that Nintendo and Valve are all gameplay focused, they plan to move away from the shitty woke movie games and live-service slop and return to the types of games they made from the PS1-early PS4, PSP-PS Vita days but without the movie shit. Western SIE, who were turning PlayStation into blue Xbox, are effectively dead.
>>737294134>Nishino is gutting the whole western branchIf he plans to do that, then why is hulst still around?
>>737294134>Nishino is gutting the whole western branchlol, lmao even
>>737293938Kek, I'm using that from now on.
>>737290934Doesn’t count, he’s gone now and the yurocuck is still in power
>>737294251It's slow, Hulst already lost a lot of power, after his next live-service projects fail, he'll "retire" giving the first-party to Nishino who wants more gameplay-focused games like Astro Bot.>>737295124That's exactly what's happening though, Sony sees Nintendo and Valve as threats, they have stopped giving a crap about Microsoft completely. They see their current direction as a liability now and are dropping it as it's no longer needed.
>>737289465Lol, lmao
I still don't understand why incels seethe at Jim Ryanfirst of all most woke slop was already approved by Yoshida before Ryan took place, second this dude literally made the most profitable generation for playstation to dateyou might be seething (without even playing video games) but shareholders are sucking his dick and this is all that matters because more money === more consoles === more games and exclusive deals, so keep coping
>>737295394>That's exactly what's happening thoughI haven't seen many articles (if any at all) about American Playstation executives getting fired and/or getting replaced by nip executives. Got any? That would give me hope.
>>737295569>shareholder primacy>quantity over quality
>>737295569No one cares about profits, you worthless Xfaggot. People care about soul and the games. Something completely lost under Jimmy Boy. What, was Phil Spencer good because he brought profit to Xbox through their shitty software and monopolization of the western gaming market? It doesn't matter if you bring the profit if you have no soul and couldn't give a rats ass about your consumerbase. You normalfag shills are going to recognize real quick in the future. Gaming is returning to us, you faggots are being priced out and your games will stop being made for our games. The normalfag era is over.
>>737295569>>737295564
>>737289331None of the games mentioned are any good, it's all slop.
>>737295697cope>>737295724>No one cares about profitsshareholders dowithout shareholders a public traded company doesn't exist>People care about soul and the gamesand there's plenty of both, keep coping retard, your arbitrary definition of soul is irrelevant, millions enjoy the games and the console so not sure what is your problem, instead of seething in a sony thread you could, you know, go back and play video games on whatever dogshit platform of yours so shut up>if you have no soul stop saying retarded meaningless shit thanks>You normalfag shills are going to recognize real quick in the futuretwo more weeks, meanwhile I will be playing video games>Gaming is returning to usbroke virgin losers don't play video games tho>The normalfag era is over.keep telling that to yourself to feel better I guess
>>737295676https://thatparkplace.com/sony-japan-wants-to-move-away-from-western-studios/https://www.noobfeed.com/news/sony-japan-comeback-no-longer-mattersNishino is also the sole guy that runs the branch with Hulst reporting directly to him now as well.
>>737289331Yoshida, ladies and gentlemen
>>737293576This man looks like a JAV enthusiast. I believe.
>>737295839>shareholders doThen why was Jim Ryan removed and replaced by a Japanese man?>and there's plenty of both, keep coping retard, your arbitrary definition of soul is irrelevant, millions enjoy the games and the console so not sure what is your problem, instead of seething in a sony thread you could, you know, go back and play video games on whatever dogshit platform of yours so shut upFor now, there is no soul in Sony's games except Astro Bot, that's going to change in the future as we see less soulless western slop.>stop saying retarded meaningless shit thanksIt's true, movie games have no soul, get over it, fake Snoy.>two more weeks, meanwhile I will be playing video gamesYou lost Xbox, you're about to lose late PS4-PS5 PlayStation, consoles and PCs cost too much. It's over for you normalfags.>broke virgin losers don't play video games thoWe're getting handhelds, unlike you we can shift to different devices, we'll have a home on handhelds over home consoles and desktops.>keep telling that to yourself to feel better I guessI will, go cry me a river when the current era of AAA gaming dies.
>>737296083>Then why was Jim Ryan removed and replaced by a Japanese man?not my problem>there is no soul you don't even play video games shut the hell up delusional incel
>>737296058Wasn't he given the wrong build of the game?
>>737296058damn, he was a bit of a retard.
>>737296131>not my problemI guess the shareholders wanted him out.>you don't even play video games shut the hell up delusional incelIf I'm mentioning soul, it means I actually play video games, you rotten no gaming normal faggot. Your movie games aren't games like what the PS1, PS2, and PSP had.
>>737295908>https://www.noobfeed.com/news/sony-japan-comeback-no-longer-matters>sony is coming back to japan because of the japan only PS5 Digital and the PS Portaloh, i think he's gonna be disappointed in how the japan only PS5 did then
>>737289505Hulst was 100% responsible for Concord you irredeemable cock.
>>737296197He can't save the PS5, that thing is dead, but, there will be a PS6 handheld, probably not called the PS6 but PS something, probably Nexus (I came up with that). With the goal being bring back many of those Japanese games of the past along with the more quirky and family friendly western games of the past. They could at least fix their sales problem next gen, but PlayStation is a goner this gen in Japan.
>>737296193>If I'm mentioning soul, it meansit means that your opinion is irrelevant because your arbitrary definition of soul is not argumentyou are full of shit and you are a retard, shut uptlou on grounded has more gameplay and is harder than any uncslop you could think of, you don't play video games and if you don't like the modern things then what the fuck are you doing on /v/
>>737296058He is right.
>>737296309>uncslopYou're a zoomer, opinion discarded
>>737296359you are a senile balding gay retard, go back to /vr/ faggot
>>737296382You will lose PlayStation to us, we're taking it back from you
>>737295569Posting cause i know what you are
>>737296058Demon souls is shit. Dark Souls is what took off
>>737296410your unclsop didn't sell shitall the emulated ps1/ps2 games on ps store are rotting there because nobody wants themmeanwhile the so called moviegames (that have more gameplay than any uncslop ever made) are selling like hotcakes and for most people are literally the reason to own a playstationall currently announced games are literally like this, keep seething pathetic incel
>>737289619they are basically fucked bro
>>737296296Boy, I hope they have more studios lined up for the PS6. I wonder if they bribed square, capcom, bamco, and sega for exclusives again
>>737293971too bad it took japs nearly two decades to wake up. but I guess as long as money kept rolling in nobody gave shit all that much
>>737289465And now, Sony is dyingBased
>>737296516>your unclsop didn't sell shitIt sold enough, I don't want trash like you playing it.>all the emulated ps1/ps2 games on ps store are rotting there because nobody wants themWho is nobody?>meanwhile the so called moviegames (that have more gameplay than any uncslop ever made) are selling like hotcakes and for most people are literally the reason to own a playstationIs that why Sony had to pull them from PC and make a massive complaint about their budgets enough to start making some hard changes for the PlayStation's future looking at Astro Bot as a shining example, not your expensive ass woke movie games?>all currently announced games are literally like this, keep seething pathetic incelThe currently announced games are going to be a complete shitshow, only interested in Kojima's next stealth game.
>>737296058It unironically drove devs to push harder and ultimately make better series.
>>737296604I think they're outsourcing their IPs to third parties, but those games will now be exclusive to PlayStation going forward.>>737296607I know right, I wish they would have done this shit a lot sooner, damn.
>>737296734They can have their in-house titles for themselves.No one wants that garbage
>>737296798They're outsourcing their Japanese IPs and PS1 and PS2 western IPs to third parties.
>>737296665>It sold enoughaka nothing, got it>hard changes for the PlayStation's futureretard>The currently announced games are going to be a complete shitshowtwo more weeks
>>737289331>globalize your company and move your headquarters to california>failson MBA retard takes over>runs your company into the groundyou get what you deserve honestly
>>737296486>>737296708Dark Souls only existed because Demon's was a global hit thanks to Atlus believing in the series potential, not Sony.
>>737289331>2019Not long before that, they moved to California. Then soon then they go all in on DEI, closed Japan Studio, and started working on Concord
>>737289953I should actually check out the games I played the demos of at the perth pixel expo I went to last year
>>737296058To be fair, modern Sony has been doing a fine job utterly squandering Bloodborne without Yoshida, which is far worse since it was a game they specifically had made AFTER the Souls series was established as desirable and popular. They can't do a remake because the creator won't approve of one after Bluepoint (hired by Sony) remade DeS in a disrespectful artless fashion, they won't settle for a PS5 remaster/performance patch or PC port, and they just farmed out the media rights for a movie to a goddamn funnyman YouTuber who made a video essay about how BB is "viscerally feminine".
>>737289331Why the fuck did Japan give their company to westerners to begin with. Hopefully they learned their lesson.
>>737294134I'll believe this when Cuckmann and his entire studio are decapitated live on stream.
>>737298095>how BB is "viscerally feminine".What?How?
>>737290562those are am*rigolems
>>737294134Please be true. Also fuck xbox and microshit. Both did tremendous amount of damage to the industry.
>>737298095Seriously, did people even ask for a BB remake to begin with? Why is Sony insisting so much in this instead of funding a sequel?
>>737289331Even more reason to continuously reject Sony's life service ambitions if you want the company to be good again
>>737298462Graphics had already begun plateauing when Bloodborne was released, it would not be worth the risk of a Demon's Souls cock-up for that small bump in technical visual quality. All they needed to do was a 4K/60fps/HDR version for PS5, then get to work on Bloodborne II as a PS6 launch title.
>>737289465hahahaha
>>737289331don't fall for this sour slit eyed boomer lies, THIS IS THE GUY THAT GREENLIT CONCORD, UNDER HIS REIGN>but i also greenlit these successful games please pity me
>>737294134Sorry bro but your fantasy outcome is impossible and far too late to pull off, PlayStation is 95% western at this point. Japan studio is long gone and with them most of their traditional Japanese big budget lineage. There isn't anyone for sony to buy that wouldn't become dead weight.
>>737289331>>737289465Of course. Remember Sonyfags fellating Jimbo?
>>737299102Yep. They've fucked up their foundations, and that is almost impossible to repair.
>>737289331Tracks entirely, Sony started nosediving around 2018. Jim Ryan was a blight and I will never buy a PS5 because of him. Glad he's gone, but it took too long.
>>737299095Greenlighting a multiplayer fps from former bungie talent isnt a particularly stupid move. Herman is the one who pumped it with shit tonnes of money and bought the fucking studio. That isn't even hulsts biggest crime, it was ruining the entire generation with aborted gaas slop and every other bad call he and ryan made like buying bungie for almost 4 billion and closing japan studio. You're allowed a few bad calls in your 20+ year career, not 15 of them in a 5 year period.
>>737289619It took 4 and a half years until the PS5 actually surpassed the PS4 in monthly active users and the PS5 is only selling slightly better than the 4 in the same timeframe. With these recent price hikes it's gonna get worse. That's not growth, that's stagnation.If they're gonna employ such egregious price hikes then the Playstation simply needs more exclusives to pull people from the 4 or PC, but Herman and his retard dumb brain went all in on GAAS trash that burns billions like Concord and Marathon, while also throwing Factions and the Spider-Verse game into the trash. Can't have AA games anymore I guess.
>>737294134The problem is that this over 10 years long process profoundly changed the PS userbase.AstroBot was astroturfed as hell, it was successful but it has barely any true impact sales wise.Ps fans are the ones that consume Marvel and wants movie games. If you think it won't have woke elements in in Wolverine or the next movie slop, you are wrong.
>>737299095I doubt Concord back then was the same as the released garbage
>>737298275This would please the Metal gods.
>>737298771Dealing with Sony as an indie is a fucking awful experience. I'm guessing Yoshida was hardly involved if he truly is that enthusiastic about indies, because last I checked you can't even put your fucking games on sale unless you're cool enough to have a contact at Sony.
>>737293576>Jim Ryan and Herman Hulst's plan was to completely de-Japan the company and ensure total Western dominance. That's why you got anime game censorship as Jim was climbing up the ladder (happened mid 2018, Jim was nominated CEO in early 2019, so he had the influence), that's why Japan lost the X cancel/O confirm feature, that's why Japan Studio was closed, that's why they started not showing Japanese games on their showcases (except for Square Enix, and Sony was clearly instructing them on how to develop their games "for the West" ala Forspoken and FFXVI)interesting>Hopefully Nishino can clean up this decade long mess, he said he wants to restore Playstation in Japan. He showed at least one JP anime tiddy game in that Japan focused State of Play already (the Disgaea musou), I wanna be optimistic about him.
>>737295908>thatparkplaceOh come on give me something a bit more trustworthy
>>737294134The Western faction of the company has spent years since the Vita days usurping the SIE management, I doubt he would change things around anytime soon
>>737289331In an alternate timeline Sony never moved to California, pushed hard to acquire FromSoft after Demon's Souls, made Souls the face of PlayStation, and continued to foster the Japan Studio tradition of making top-quality games with unique concepts and artistic merit. Then they'd actually have a worthwhile brand and position in the market, with better long-term prospects.Instead the face of PlayStation is now a moldy bag of Ubislop clones, their core strategy is passing GaaS while flailing or failing, and the constant appeal to the lowest common denominator of the mass market has meant they have no unique identity left and are on the same slow but certain trajectory into irrelevance as Xbox, maybe only delayed a generation.
>>737300203Bro the western divisions got their feet in the door YEARS before the Vita. They smelled blood IMMEDIATELY with the PS3's disastrous initial rollout.
>>737300369I wouldn't say PlayStation will become entirely irrelevant simply because it's managed to become the normalfag console, but with the price hikes who knows what's gonna happen.
>>737293576why are western corpo types so goddamn evil?
>>737299719That's probably the policy of the store and buisiness arm. Yoshidas job was just to nurture and fund indies so they would make exclusives, it's the same as Herman's job but with much lower budgets and only with external indies.
>>737293576>the Disgaea musouimagine the grind
>>737300632>Yoshidas job was just to nurture and fund indies so they would make exclusives, it's the same as Herman's job but with much lower budgets and only with external indiesAh I see. Still not fun that different arms of the company have very different philosophies, although I suppose it's that way with MS and Nintendo too.
>>737300490Every western publisher is already irrelevant, sony had two paths to go down, one was capcom, nintendo, from and sega, the other was xbox, EA, ubisoft and activision, they chose the west and they will die on that pile.
>>737300764I can see Sony shutting down more studios because they can't stop losing money, but I don't see PlayStation itself becoming completely irrelevant. I don't see studios like Bungie and ND lasting another decade if they insist on big budget cinematic slop or big budget GAAS slop.
>>737296131>incelpost your face so we can laugh
>>737300369Spencer was right when he said the PS4/Xbone generation was the worst to lose. Normalfags have chosen their walled garden ecosystems, and Sony borderline doesn't have to try anymore. No one's a direct threat to them at present. Microsoft gave up and Nintendo dances to the beat of their own drum, little point in factoring what they'll do.
>>737300681The company was pretty unified under the same core philosophy during the ps4 era, it was only after the Jim ryan, hulst coup where it fractured. Yoshida was basically the only big name left from that era and his influence was curtailed, I also think he was heavily involved in their VR initiatives which had potential before Facebook nuked the sector.
>>737300858Sony without exclusives is by default irrelevant and they can't fix this problem because wages are too high in America and all their studios are located in the most expensive cities on earth. Eventually every single one of their major western studios is going to shut down because even when they succeed they don't generate much profit, when they fail it's a fucking disaster.Once they lose their stream of exclusives they enter exactly the same territory as xbox, it's a shitty pc for poor people that charges you to use your own Internet, that's not a product with any kind of future.
>>737289331>Shoesheit Yoshi No gaemz>Lying Jim Ryan No gaemzIn the end it doesn't even matter who's in charge.
>>737300490Problem is the normalfag gamer is slowly disappearing, drowning in a sea of subscriptions and generic gadgets. People intuitively still know what a "Nintendo game" is, so for those interested there's a reason to get the latest Nintendo console and buy into their ecosystem. No one knows what a "PlayStation game" is because it doesn't exist, so there's no particular reason to choose them over any of the other countless products or services offering the same or similar thing, and competition from those will only increase in the near future.At this rate I predict PlayStation will at best turn into just another streaming player among the Google Stadias, Amazon Lunas, and Xbox Clouds for the casuals, while yielding ever more space to PC for the enthusiasts.
>>737298301Something something womb, something something menstruation, something something blood.Stop getting mad at random """essayists""" on youtube.
>>737301385Ps4 was bad but there was enough that I considered buying a ps4 and still want to emulate some of that library. Ps5 is so dire I never once thought about buying one and when it dies I will have absolutely no desire to emulate any of its exclusives.
>>737289331he definitely asked him to ramp up the tranny nigger shit.
>>737293576>Hopefully Nishino can clean up this decade long messNot gonna happen, Playstation is still using California as its permanent residence and the amount of jewish influence that has crept into the company is now greater than even their movie/tv division. Look at what's left of Playstation, just a bunch of American and European developers that don't make anything than AAAA movieslop, Marathon and AAAAA marvelslop that has internally expressed grave concerns about whether or not Sony can continue to afford to develop these games for another 5-6 years when their consumers are only playing GTA, FIFA, Fortnite and Roblox.>>737294134>Nishino is gutting the whole western branchHe has yet to actually do so, the only thing that's happened since he became Co-CEO was shutting down more legacy studios in order to offset the costs associated with Bungie.
>>737294134I think you dont realize that Sonys first party output is exclusively western aka american. They literally have no first party studios outside US almost at all only Polyphony and ASOBI are in Japan but ASOBI is small team headed by Frenchman too.Sony has no studios so if they will gut american branch then who is going to be making exclusives lmao.
>>737293576>SK>Neptunia>Disgaeano wonder they wanted to delete Japan for their portfolio lmao
>>737294134>Nishino is gutting the part that makes fans buy a Playstation lol> they plan to move away from the shitty woke movie games and live-service slop and return to the types of games they made from the PS1-early PS4, PSP-PS Vita days but without the movie shit.TWO MORE WEEKS LMAO
>>737296160No that was Crash 1 (worked out anyways because he liked it despite the build issues)Yoshida's main issues with Demon's Souls was that it used the shoulder buttons for attacking and defending, which you need to remember that's an extremely alien control choice outside of FPS games, and that it did the Souls difficulty thing that we're all used to by now.
>>737293576Isn't it kinda weird how otaku games just sorta faded from existence after the Vita? Makes me sad to think about. I blame CrunchyRoll and normie anime fags and trannies that flip out about anything even remotely sexual.
>>737294134This is not happening and if it somehow happens, then it'll only accelerate SONY's downfall.Sony simply does not have the means to survive doing this, the western leadership made sure, during their stay, to gut every single hope of a "jap return to form", their biggest hope was Japan Studio, but that is long dead and gone now, you cannot bring it back, much less the talent that was lost with it, as it stands Sony, unlike Nintendo, has no heavy hitting titles to sustain a return to form, they have no Zelda, Fire Emblem, Metroid, Mario, Pokémon, Animal Crossing... to sustain their console, all they have is GaaS slop and Movie Games slop that the american leadership left for them.Not only that, Sony conceded one of it's most historical defeats to Nintendo recently, when Nintendo decided to lower the price of their digital exclusive Switch 2 to titles to match those of PC and then threw the ball on Sony's court, who then responded by raising the prices of all PS5 units, you cannot understand how retarded a move this wasPlaystation is not surviving past the PS6, consolefags will migrate to Switch 2, while multiplatformfags will migrate to PC-Steam
>>737289465You mean not makinr 12 live service games?
>>737302212>Isn't it kinda weird how otaku games just sorta faded from existence after the Vita?when the majoity of devs making them were massive snoys that would prefer to let the franchise die than to remove them from Sony, not really.
>>737298462People have wanted either a PC port or a remaster with better framerate since the game came out.
>>737298095>Game about Lunar cycles, mensuration, and child birth is totally not feminine guys because girls are icky woke slop
>>737302212They largely moved to the gacha arena. PlayStation definitely has their work cut out for them if they intend to claw back that audience.
>>737290562Do you even know your own mutt people? He ain't euro lol
>>737302431It's weird how everyone made such a huge stink over lootboxes, but gacha is this seemingly untouchable genre controlled overwhelmingly by China that no one's thought to tackle at all, and it's quite literally a million times worse in every single regard.
>>737293576I don't know if he can, the rot is too widespread and turds like fairgames are still to come and hulst is still in charge
>>737302306Playstation is only alive because of 3rd party sales. that's the reason why Sony did so many exclusivity deals back in the day. that's why they wanted to block MS to buy Activision so hard or are going harder on f2p mobile games. without the money they get from those, they'd just be dead by now.
>>737301552The only exclusive games I can remember is astrobot and demon's souls and I would hardly count demon's souls.
>>737289465How's that decision going for them now?
>>737302801Demon Souls is also a dogshit remake of a game from 20 years ago
>>737302801Astro Bot is not even a game, it's like calling the Switch Home Tour a gameDemon's Souls Remake is a disgrace and a slap on the face of all fans, it disrespects the original art piece to its core
>>737301989Yeah, filling your portfolio with Concord-likes was much better!
>>737294134This all sounds too good to be true.
>>737302943You laugh now, but if you give Sony just two more weeks, they're bound to hit their Fortnite moment, trust the plan!
>>737289331>When Guerilla Games co-founder Hermen HulstIsn't that the guy who was pushing Concord?
>>737303008>It's a good decision that Sony got rid of him but the question is it too lateIt is too late, there's no question of that, as it stand the situation is like if you removed Hitler from power in February 1945 and proclaim that "now there's hope for Germany"
>>737302923Astro Playroom is the actual tech demo. Astro Bot is a game despite it having mechanics stolen from other games or not having much of a plot.
>>737302923Saying Astro Bot isn't a game is insanely disingenuous. It's a full on platformer that takes like 10 hours to beat.
>>737303008>zog takeover = bad>zogs getting rid of non-zogs after the takeover is complete = goodgenius
Shuhei YoshidaShuihei YoshidaShuhei Yoshida <- current timeline
>Yo Jim this shit is ass>nooooooooooooo
>>737303008Jim was a right winger btw.
>>737303095>>737303118It's just a tech demo, in itself the "game" is just an amalgam of "cool" things the PS5 can do, with the added element of "HEY, REMEMBER THOSE TIMES FROM SONY'S HISTORY?! REMEMBER THE GAMES?! THOSE WERE COOL, RIGHT?!", which rubs even more salt on the wound, because it constantly reminds the player of what playstation once was and constrast it with all the GaaS slop and Movie Games slop that they have nowadays
>>737303412You're unbelievably retarded
>>737302520It wouldn't be as annoying if lootboxes didn't get replaced by an infinitely worse system where you pay for a progression system to get some cosmetics on top of a rotating store that sells tiny 3D model weapon charms for $5 and character skins for $20+. You also can't lock any cool cosmetics behind any meaningful challenges because then little kids and adult babies would get upset.
>>737301285Unfortunately, video games have entered the same mode of operation as social media - you cultivate relationships and a library with it, and once you're in it's incredibly hard to leave. Sony is, at present, the prevailing victor of this mode of operation. They aren't irrelevant in spite of their output for the same reason Facebook isn't irrelevant, too many people are too far in to leave now. I honestly think the stink of it all even reaches this board, I've never seen someone try to earnestly defend PS5 without sounding like it's some kind of stock investment for them.
>>737301070>Spencer was right when he said the PS4/Xbone generation was the worst to lose.This was very true, keyword being "was." Turns out that long-term, the combined force of mobile + PC + streaming was the true threat to both consoles. Xbox seemingly being more or less out of the race for the upcoming generation is Sony's one saving grace now. If they cannot use that opportunity to turn PlayStation into a worthwhile and exclusive place for games, I don't think it's impossible that the PS6 will be the last of their traditional consoles. If they fail to capitalize on it, the PS7 could well become either a lightweight streaming box, or a generic PC like the GabeCube, maybe both.
>>737303651The only thing the executives at the top care about is player retention. If they can get people logging into the game every single day to check out the new shop, that's all that matters. Even in Fortnite's case where the game is literally fucking dying more and more with every season. Nothing will be done about it until it's too late. If you allow players to buy the things they actually want by listing every shop item available all at once, then how will they know they actually want this one item they never would have bothered with before except that it looks similar to something they actually want?
>>737304060I doubt the PlayStation 6 will even have a disc drive. Digital games also cost the exact same as physical copies, and there are many cases now where buying a physical copy just gives you a download code. In fact, Disney just laid off their entire home entertainment division, so you know what that means? You will own nothing, and you will be happy. Physical media is about to put out to pasture entirely, and people aren't going to understand what they had until it's gone for good.
>>737304060You say this as if that's a problem for modern Sony. They'd probably make that pivot happily if they could navigate the initial pushback. I think they may even be working towards that now that they basically own the normalfag market. It'd be to their financial benefit. Sucks for people with taste, but they've been getting pissed on since 7th gen regardless.
>>737289619The platform exists to sell Microslop to giganormies with sub-90 IQ.
>>737303851And a failed stock investment at that.
>>737289331Anyone with a brain cell knew that. It's the classic, if you don't quit we'll fire you. All of the interviews Shuhei gave that he was pursuing a new opportunity because he loved indies was all a spin at Snoy's insistence so Jim Ryan wouldn't have a negative impression from the startJP game studios rarely fire people due to their labor laws so they either put them in the dog house like Kojima until they want to quit but the more common thing is they "reassign" to another department so management can do what they want
>>737304536>You say this as if that's a problem for modern Sony. They'd probably make that pivot happilyMaybe, but it may also be their doom. If they go the PC route they will have nothing, not the games, not the hardware, and we all know by now how competing against Steam turns out. They'll last a short while before becoming the next Sega, a pure software publisher. And on the streaming side there are already far bigger players with far better infrastructure for that kind of thing. They will probably have to become Amazon's bitch, and eventually the premier service for game streaming will be "Amazon PlayStation" instead of "Sony PlayStation."
>>737305668Having the three gaming giants in the future be Nintendo/Valve/Amazon would be a bit weird.
>>737305950>Nintendo>The blue one>The retarded corpo who never gets itsounds like it'd be the same desu.
It's funny how much of a hate boner Nintendo fans have for Dpug Bowser when he didn't actively do anything harmful to the company. Meanwhile Jim Ryan fucked up Sony Interactive to an unimaginable degree and Sony's current leadership is also a cluster fuck lol
>>737303851That's partly true but I dont think the network effect is as sticky with game consoles. People are excited about what is shiny and new, not their backlog. If you have the console with the best looking new games you will attract the biggest install base and their libraries build from that point, these people a fickle and will shift again to whoever has the best new games.
>>737305668They just made a public stance against PC so either they're tucking tail or gearing up to fight Steam, but given the supposed "profit margins" they saw on PC I'd predict the former. They could never be the next Sega because Sony was never one to cultivate long-term brands aside from a scant few. They have a gorillion IP but only flex like half a dozen of them. And as for streaming, let the retarded corpos fight over that. Entities like Microsoft and Amazon that have more money than common sense, let them waste their time with that nonsense. It's best for them to stay in their lane where they're successful, but that makes too much sense unfortunately.
>>737305950>>737306085Gamindustry only needs Nintendo and Valve, those cover all necessary fronts, if you want consoles, then get Nintendo, if you want a PC, then install Steam and have access too all multiplatform titlesThe rest is unnecessary and the soon they cease to be, the better
>>737294134>>737293576>>737289331Jews killed SonyAnother poisoned well
>>737306401>the best looking new gamesIn Playstation's case that's a new FIFA, a new Gran Turismo, and the same third party stability that they've had since the beginning. The rest can be what it is, that'll death grip enough normalfags right there. It's like how Nintendo can just drop a new Mario Kart and 3D Mario, that basically keeps things afloat for the rest if they do it right.
Everyone shits on Jim Ryan but Sony spent the entire PS3 era making those small Japanese IPs you all claim to love so much but no one fucking bought them. Can you really blame him when Uncharted and The Last of Us were genuine hits? Would YOU have greenlit a new Ape Escape or Parappa over that? If it was your job to make Sony money?
>>737306459It's best for them to stay in their lane where they're successful, but that makes too much sense unfortunately.Yeah, the problem is, they're absolutely not successful even in their own lane, so there's nothing left for them
>>737306643>Uncharted and The Last of UsUncharted (Movie Game) and The Last of Us (Movie Game) succeeding was the worst thing that could ever happen to Sony
>>737289331I thought Shuhei getting fired was common knowledge at this point. What was stated in UK gamedev circles was Ryan fired him for going to bat for Media Molecule and giving them extra time after Dreams started taking too long in development, and Sony Japan had to intervene with making him head of the new Indie division. Then 5 years later that viral post of Ryan visiting London Studio right before they were closed was a change of plans as Ryan was headed to close MM instead of London until someone pulled rank and convinced them to close London instead.
>>737306645PS5 is successful as a platform, somehow. Sony's obsession with chasing the live service golden goose will probably be their long-term undoing with enough implosions. It does seem like one hit can bankroll 5 failures so who knows with that. None of it makes sense to me, really.
>>737303283>CEO writes the to whole company about his cats
>>737306814It makes some kind of sense when you remember Sony spent a shitton of cash on their AAA moviegames and got increasingly small profit margins with each one that released due to longer periods of waiting time and less consumers willing to buy them.
>>737298301The game beats you over the head with themes of childbirth anon. Only women can give birth
>>737295724>. Gaming is returning to us, you faggots are being priced out and your games will stop being made for our games. The normalfag era is over.don't you dare to give me hope faggot.
>>737306814PS5 is profitable thanks to third party mtx skimming 30% off the top. Fortnite, sports games, gacha games are hugely popular and make billions a year for Playstation. Enough to offset their yearly losses from their own games.
>>737307048>>737306814What Sony should do now, but just to be clear, I think it's too late for that to work and there's no salvaging Playstation, is that they should cancel all their GaaS projects and stop with all their Movie Games, then reopen Japan Studios, form up new dev teams and put those to work on small scope projects for exclusive titles, they need to be short, simple and fun, nothing grandious that would take a decade to put out, with time, this would build a decent library of exclusives for Playstation, as these teams start acquiring more experience as they develop such games, Sony can then put some of those to work on more ambitious projects, but nothing on the likes of their shitty Movie Games, greater games, yes, but games that are still faithful to the gameplay first approach, this would bring Playstation the games it desperately needs and help build customer confidence in the brandUnfortunately, as I said, it's too late to do that now and I don't think Sony has the guts to pull it off
>>737307335I would like Sony to repeat the PS1 strategy of "GAMES MOTHERFUCKER, WHAT KIND? YES" as well. As you said, I think we're a bit beyond that being possible.
Why do people always pretend Sony's Playstation division is in trouble or fumbling something. They're very profitable and doing well. I don't get it. The live service flops happened but they survived it well.
>>737295839>No one cares about profits>shareholders do>without shareholders a public traded company doesn't existNTA Microsoft isn't really a publically traded company in the way your Economics textbook described it. They're more akin to a Government Supported Enterprise (GSE), like GM, IBM, Freddy & Fanny Mac, the Federal Reserve System banks, Delta/American/United Airlines, etc. The government doesn't give a shit if Xbox is profitable, just that they get the intangible benefit of Xbox existing.
>>737306371He had no backbone. Why do you think Wii sports was free yet Nintendo Welcome Tour was paid?Reggie told the japs to fuck off
>>737296296>With the goal being bring back many of those Japanese games of the past along with the more quirky and family friendly western games of the past.sauce? it looks too good to be true.
>>737307458Just because a bear survived the first shots of your AK-47 onto it, it doesn't mean it will survive after you finish unloading the entire mag on itSony is still working on stupid GaaS and Movie Games projects and they showed no sign of walking away from that direction (unless you believe rumours on the internet), yeah, they survived for now, but can they survive if they continue on this self-destructive road? Absolutely notIf Sony stays on this course, and again, I see no evidence of them walking away from it, Playstation won't survive past 6
>>737307458It doesn't smell right. Sony puts out 3 "games" a year, half of them spectacularly flop, and yet they're pulling record profits? The math ain't adding up, certainly not long-term anyways.
>>737307561And yet Nintendo is doing well while Sony is a fucking dumpster fire
>>737306371>Doug BowserOh yeah, he existed I guess. Funny last name ha ha, what did he even do?
>>737308135He didn't destroy Nintendo for one thing, unlike Jim Ryan with SIE
>>737307747They make most of their money off of mtx/game sales on the PS store, not first party game sales
>>737307335It's also never going to happen because shareholders would immediately rebel and either try to take over the business or implode it. But I agree, scaling back and turning PlayStation into its own Nintendo-like entity just doing its own thing would be the best for gamers and games. FromSoft showed you could have massive success with good gameplay, artistic direction, 20 lines of dialogue and a bunch of cryptic writing. Meanwhile Sony insisted on recording the equivalent of three movies in the mocap studio for every project, and they got nothing for it.
>>737307747like another anon said, they make their money from the cut they get from microtransactions in third party games.Tons of people jumped ship from xbox last gen so they're the largest userbase for the turbo normalfag games that are filled with microtransactions. They'll only get more with microsoft putting their games on playstation too. The only way for sony to crumble at this point is if they keep pumping money into massive failures.
Jim Ryan literally killed PlayStation with the live service online slop push lol.
Actually Sony could use the money they get from third party mtx to stay afloat while they restructure if they were smart and wanted to last long term
>>737308182"Didn't kill the company". Glowing resume right there.
>>737308203>>737308229Gay. Efficient, but gay.
>>737290934wat. Jim is a bong
yoshida was a retard but they replaced him with even bigger retards
>>737308471Proto American
>>737306643I bought them!!!! Folklore was my favourite one.
>>737308459That's what happens when your even semi memorable exclusives is the same number of years the console has been out.
>>737308776
I've had every PlayStation since the original PlayStation including the PSP and Vita. The PS4 and PS5 games both very underwhelming and boring compared to the PS1 and PS2 and PS3 and PSP games.
>>737294134>the based nihonese are going to save us from woke dei western movie games!!! based!!!you do not play video games
>>737308384The only things Reggie ever did of note at Nintendo was making Wii Sports a pack-in game in America and blocking a ton of Japanese games from Western release, which almost included Xenoblade
Xbox killed Sony and almost killed PC gaming while pushing DLC, Multiplayer only games, MTX, AAA company slop and paid online throughout, they turned console gaming into PC gaming but 10 times worse on a closed garden.Worse yet, they were successful and popularized all of that shit because Americunts are corporate cocksuckers of the highest caliber.Microshaft did more damage to the vidya industry in half a decade than Nintendo and Sony in 15 years.I hope GTA6 comes out, and then the well dies up.
>>737308973PS4 still had some good stuff but significantly less than the previous consoles. PS5 was a fucking joke all around.
>>737309231Playstation has been a joke since the PS3, Xbox has been a joke since it's inception.Both must die
>>737309309It's okay to miss out on things.
>>737309028He didn't say anything about woke dei
>>737289619kill yourself faggot.
>>737306643Of course not. Sony just followed the money. Ghosts of Tsushima sold more than all the Sly Coopers. Uncharted was bigger than Jak. Ape Escape sales peaked with Ape Escape 1. The last one flopped big on PS3. These games are for a smaller audience.
>>737307458>Why do people always pretend Sony's Playstation division is in trouble or fumbling something.By looking to the future. Kids these days don't grow up with same affinity for consoles or their brands, certainly the days of the console wars are long gone. They click on generic tablets and swipe on generic phones, Roblox is now the closest equivalent to what a Nintendo or PlayStation used be. So once the current generation of casual gamers focus more on their careers and families, there will be nothing to replace them. If your value proposition is "Please pay $1000 for our locked-down electronic box of brand X that you have no emotional attachment to and that does the exact same thing as everything else." that's not going to be good enough for the coming decade.
>>737296058Yoshida actually played the games Sony put out, unlike his replacement that only sucked corporate dick and took decisions entirely from looking at charts and checkmarks.
>>737309201He got his ass on stage and sold his products with some charisma. Dude was a talking head, but he was a quotable one.
>>737309353I didn't
>>737308973Same boat, the PS4 was the first time I ever felt buyer's remorse for a console and to see it bigged up in retrospect as much as it has been is one of those things that make me feel like I'm from a different planet. Honestly staggering that the PS5 has so little going for it that it's managed to make the PS4 look good.
>>737308384Given the state of the videogame industry, that already puts him in the hypercompetent range.
>>737309201NoA under him had a stick up its ass after NCL told them that Project HAMMER sucked and admonished them for being over budget.
>>737289331Yes not listening to your bosses orders tend to get you fired, this is not news unless you're an out of touch NEET
>>737289331SIE is a Jewish company now.
>>737290934Chaim Ryanowitz is jewish actually.
>>737310110It was the NST division (1080 avalanche) that had its own stick up its ass. They wanted to make a more mature exclusives for nintendo but kept stalling because they were constantly bickering within themselves on how to make the game.
>>737309309I understand your point about PS3 but it was nowhere even close to as bad as the PS4 and PS5.
>>737310043
>>737308182>>737308384It also worth pointing out that Nintendo isn't closing down studios and firing 1k employees every few months like some companies.
>>737302837It's going fine. Yoshida cultivated a fanbase of sheep, and thanks to those sheep and also depriving Yoshida of his deserved pay raise, Sony can continue to tank massive flops like Concord, billion dollar purchases of passed-their-prime developers like Bungie, and numerous other live service failures for another decade.
>>737310043How low is the bar.
>>737310698Why is this noteworthy? How have we reached a point of executive degeneracy where merely not drowning is excelling?
>>737309705So all he is is a dumb meme. Wow what a great president, so worth not having a bunch of good games getting localized.
>>737310830You don't want to know.>>737310836They are also among the few videogame companies, perhaps the only one, that's actually expanding in a world where videogame companies are declining.
>>737306643It wasn't either or, it was very easy from them to greenlight both. I used to buy playstations for wipeout, arcade racers, japan studio and the fact that it was the default home of japanese AAA. All of that shit is dead and why? Because sony wanted to spend well over 4 billion dollars on incompetent western studios and failed gaas shit.I would absolutely have continued to fund japan studios new IP, they don't need to make mega hits, they just had to be financially self sustaining to offer value to the ecosystem.
>>737311153>So all he is is a dumb meme.Correct.
>>737308973PS4 Pro was my first real console, which I primarily got for RDR2, Bloodborne and some PS3-era remasters and exclusives like Yakuza. But Rockstar releasing on PC after a delay is a safe bet, Bloodborne can apparently be emulated, and even that last category is practically wiped out by now. I did upgrade to PS5 and will probably get a PS6 as well, but that's because they fit my particular situation and I like it better than playing on PC.There is for sure no reason to get a PlayStation unless the form factor and price hits your sweet spot. What's worse for Sony, and probably a mistake in hindsight and why they pulled out, is that their short foray into the PC market showed everyone clearly that even with the tiny handful of first-party exclusives, PC players hadn't missed anything. They're perfectly decent games, but nothing you couldn't get from the latest AssCreed or any of the other perfectly decent third-person action titles. Zero killer apps, and there's no reason to believe that will change for the next generation. They won't even be able to ride on the shoulders of Rockstar because by the time the PS6 launches, it'll probably already be close to the PC release of GTA6.
>>737312402The whole GTA6 thing is unfathomably pathetic to me. The value of a 6 year old console should not hinge this strongly on the hypothetical value of a single game.
>>737301538HE'S LITERALLY PRODUCING THE MOVIE YOU SON OF A BITCH
kek based Jim Ryan. I'm starting to love this guy.
>>737313867>animatedInto the pile of Westernized Netflix "anime" adaptation trash it goes.
>>737313114Indeed. Sony is putting way too much stock in GTA as the game that will finally bring in the cash for them to further waste on their AAA movie games. Not to mention how reliant they are on getting as many as possible to sink time and money into what will likely be a new microtransaction-ladled GTA Online to have players slave away for the next five years of their life.Meanwhile, look at Nintendo who just makes games, with lots of mid- to lower-budget games in-between their high-budget ones ensuring there's a steady stream of income as players buy and complete the ones they're interested in. By keeping live services to a minimum, Nintendo literally never needs their players to sink hundreds or thousands of hours into one game to make ends meet as any investment into a game is enough to make back the cost and make them a profit. Meanwhile, the player gets to play their games as much as they want and can leave them be once interest wanes to do something else, and then come back and play them again should they feel a want to relive their experiences or pick up where they left off.
>>737299102Not to mention the "Japan branch" has been getting gutted for the past 15 years. It doesn't exist anymore. The few people working there only get enough budget to put japanese subtitles on english trailers for youtube
>>737309226This, our faggot ass normalfags here in the US deserve to be priced out of gaming for helping Microsoft destroy the medium with their fucking Xbox.
ceos and shareholders were a mistake
>>737303412I mostly agree with you. It's very hard for me to believe that all the people talking up astrobot have actually played it. Like a collective hallucination where a fine but undercooked platformer who's only real selling point is "remember *IP*?" somehow became one of the greatest games ever in a ton of people heads. Nuts.
>>737307458Because Xbox died, the Xbot zoomies want every other gaming company to die with it. reality is that Sony is course correcting now after the Jim Ryan mess.
>>737306643I will forever hate the Xbox 360 for what it did to gaming, who knew buying that piece of shit would lead to this. I should have stopped being a poorfag and just got the PS3 back then, damn.
>>737308471Bong are not Yuros anymore, just Bongs.
>>737289331>Agree to do job under authority of bosses when hired>Refuse to do it when the time comes>Job stolen:o
>>737298095>Handing the movie's direction to a youtube essayistDo corpos really?
>>737318016The EU doesn't define what European means you retard tankie
>>737318339They're one step above the average Hollyslop director of the 2020s and cost much less, so why not?
>>737318280You’re Indian
>>737318742You're a nigger
>>737296239Can you read?
>>737308135Something that is never said but is worth to mention is that he was responsible for growing the Latam market by funding a supplier in Mexico instead of keep exporting games from the US to them
Pretty sure Jim Ryan came to Playstation to sabotage it.
If Sony prices the normalfag Americans here in the US out of the PS6 home console, is that a chance that can save the PlayStation? This also means outsourcing their Japanese IPs to Japanese third parties and their western IPs like Jak, Sly, Rachet, Syphon Filter, Twisted Metal, Medieval, to smaller western third party studios, or is it over?
>>737318841Jim was with Sony since the 80s. He eventually got ultimate control and got punch drunk.
>>737318948PS won’t die as long as they keep the Hoyogacha exclusivity and GTAOnlineThose cuts are enough to keep them alive for decades
Ps5 was just made for gta vi the entire success of the console relies on ONE game six years after the console released.
>>737318841Classic case of failing upwards. Same thing happened to Keiji Inafune and Yuji Naka, they just didn't have AS big of a stage to perform their shitshows on.
>>737302462>>737298364holy coping eurabian rapespawn kek theyre both satanic jewropians
>>737319167Are saying that if you want that classic PlayStation feel, your best bet is just permanently moving to Nintendo and Steam and dropping PlayStation altogether?
>>737309729I miss old Naughty Dog.
>>737309309I agree
In some why Jim ryan and herman fucking up and forcing the Japanese to take over is the absolute best scenario.
>>737319263Not really the console is already a success and pushing 100 million sold. GTA6 will boost it past ps4s sales most likely.
>>737322327I don't think we'll see any big increase there considering anyone who wants GTA on PS5 has already bought the console.
>>737289465Its that easy to bait nowadays huh?
>>737289331imagine changing the winning PS4 team of managers with these incompetent clowns and still making profits after countless fuck-ups and multiple concords>>737289465yeah, best for nintendo LMAO
The funniest thing that has come from this GaaS push is that the games with smaller budgets like Helldivers 2 were more likely to actually succeed than games with higher budgets like Concord or Marathon. I assume Tokon will also be a success for them considering it’s likely around the same budget as GGStrive and has an already good brand to use, but watch as Fairgame$ comes out and completely offsets that by doing even worse than the depths that Concord brought them to.
>>737310836 Yes? How is this a question? People want stability. Not instability and constant worries of being laid off
Jim Ryan was a secret agent for Microsoft
