2026 is the year of linux gaming but for real this time
Hypervisor says nah
>troonix
>>737289697You can be a troonix user or a winjeet, there is no in-between. >but mac OSLMAO
>try Linux on two occasions>both times no longer able to connect to wifi>no real solution to the problem years later>get sent to a page listing USB wifi adapters that work with linux>find posts online from people talking how they bought some of those adapters and they didn't work>"omg brooo you have to use this distro its amazing!!!" then later I find horror stories of people using that distros who had their whole system fucked up randomly and jumped through tons of hoops trying to fix it before giving up>Go for another distro, fags start telling you that noooo you should use what you're using>no way to easily access what you're used to with windows such as device manager>sofware for your gamepads or headphones won't work so you have to seek third party bullshit>have to check the proton database for every game you want to play because it may be that you'll have to do some bullshit to actually get it running or that its broken on the current version of proton, even if you get it working it may have issues that don't happen on Windows anyway>Linux community is infested with annoying retards with a hissy attitude who hate the idea of actually helping people with their problems and view the mere suggestion of Linux not "just werking" like a personal attackFuck that.
>>737289923Sounds like you tried it 4 or more years ago.A lot has changed since then.
>>737290048I literally tried it last week...
>>737290192Sounds shit. 95% of the time it works every time, but there's still those niche cases where it fucks with you.
>>737290048i'm not that guy but i've been using linux for at least 20 years and the entire time the community and user experience has been exactly as that poster described
>>737289923*what they're using
>>737290324I don't even deal with the community anymore. I just fed the wiki of my distro to my LLM and ask it questions. Figured out every issue I had.
Linux doesn't need to be popular. Either use it or don't, no1 cares
Do you really want Linux gaming to become popular? Think about what happens to everything else when it gets popular, it gets infested with corporations looking to monetize everything and normies sucking the joy out of it.I think 3%-5% is the sweet spot : big enough to gather some support, but small enough that it doesn't attract corporations.
New Linux development you should be looking forwards to: VRAM management giving low VRAM GPUs new life
>>737289608Operating systems were a mistake. All games should run on bare metal.
>>737289697>>737289873>People will actually not do something they want to do purely because they associated it with a forbidden group in their head and are scared of being called naughty wordsHow the fuck are you cunts gonna be scared about being called trannies when you already behave like girls
>>73729075485% of the kernel is written by corporations already. 90% of the internet runs off Linux. There are already tons of corporate distros, and you don't have to use any of them. Yes, I want it to get popular, because the more people that use it, the more games will support it. >>737290852Yes, I was making fun of him, Anon. Buzzwords are meaningless.
>>737289608unironicallynow is the perfect time to make the switch
>Installed Linux on a machine a while back>Couldn't figure out how to do anything with it, it wouldn't connect to anything to download programs fromI wish I could switch but it genuinely feels like deciding to unlearn how to walk one day and then relearn it all over
>>737289697Holy shit just realized the person how made the video "linux is free if you don't value your time" is right about all the trannies on linux.
>>737290793I miss it. You just turn it on and the game starts. No bullshit.
>>737289608WE ALREADY HAVE A THREAD
>>737291379>how
>>737291170If you take the time it's worth it. Try different distros on a vm. Break them. Fix them. Once you find what you like then switch
>>737289923what kind of dogshit temu hardware are you using?I haven't had a driver issue in linux in 10 years and I can't say the same for windows
>>737291438Where?
>>737289608It is for meI'm using arch btw
I've been using the same windows system for like 10+ years now and haven't updated it in about 4 or 5 and now i'm just stripping out as much of it as I canAnyone else who does the same what are some other things I should try and delete off of this pc inb4 system 32 I've already nuked Edge and a bunch of other bloat and I'm trying to remove as much spyware as I can
>>737291714Dual boot
>>737291714Windows is so backwards. To make it usable you need to remove shit
>>737291543It's gone. Like ashes to the wind.
>>737290786Real. https://pixelcluster.github.io/VRAM-Mgmt-fixed/>>737291027Pleasantly surprised with Cachy. It made Arch easy.
>>737291026Yes, I think the last grassroots person working on the Linux kernel, an anesthetist, left the project not too long ago, because it became too overwhelming. However, proton, dxvk and the other translation layer derivatives are still grassroots led with some sponsorship from Valve. Maybe I'm catastrophising a bit, but I'm not particularly excited about paying subscriptions for proton, having signed gaming kernels, kernel level bans where you can't even use your computer anymore and other dystopian list items like that, which will happen once the corporate sharks smell the blood in the water.Which is why I would rather Linux gaming stay big enough to have some support, but not big enough that there is blood in the water.
>>737290786>>737292756VRAM console like priority won't fix your low vram e-waste cards.
>>737293023www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdaco79JE0o
>>737289608Two more weeksSuperpower by 2030
>>737289667>>737293214>pirated games are unironically clean as fuck>in order to run them you have to run them on a spyware OSFuck me it's so funny
>>737289667Isn't there a work in progress to run them safely with WINE?
>>737289923Pasta
Install Gentoo. Gaming werks on my gentoo machine.
OK faggots since you're here and considering switching to Linux and you're paralyzed by the choice of all the distros let me break it down for you.You only need to consider 3 parents.>Arch - Rolling release, always uses the latest stuff>Debian - Long term support, stable, always behind>Fedora - Very up to date, but not like arch.Every single distro worth a damn is built from one of these. Ignore everything else. These are the only parents that matter.For gaming, you need the latest drivers. Debian is a poor base for this because of how long it takes to get updates. Ignore any debian based distro for gaming unless you're a drooling retard. If so, go with Pop!OS or Linux Mint.Fedora is good if you think you're a bit retarded. Some options are Nobara, Bazzite (if you're extremely retarded) or just straight Fedora if you want to use it as a workstation too.For Arch, CachyOS is idiot-proof in terms of installing, and arguably the best gaming OS. But because it's always using the latest stuff, sometimes things might break. Pick it if you're less retarded than most people. If you think that's too hard, EndeavourOS is a good middleground for arch based distros.And finally, if you love to tinker, straight Arch. It has an archinstall script that automates the autism for you. But it's still not as pretty or easy as Endeavour or Cachy. Arch is the total freedom, build your own OS option.Whichever one you choose, get KDE Plasma, It is the best desktop environment out there, and by a lot. You can customize it to look like windows or mac or something else entirely. Start here. You can always change at any time and go for GNOME if you hate yourself or Hyprland if you want something offered nowhere else and want to basically only use your keyboard.To recap:Pop, Mint or Bazzite if you're brain damaged.Nobara or Fedora if you're normal.Cachy or Endeavour if you're technically mindedArch if you're autistic.
How much do they pay you to advertise this shit? I'll never believe anyone in their right mind uses linux on a home pc.
>>737294053Die mad
>>737293952Hentoo is the new Arch btw meme and it looks like Luvdisc
>>737294053How much do they pay me to make threads about free software?This might shock you, but it's $0. It's free. You can just use it and nobody can stop you.I just want to talk about linux gayming, Anon.
>>737294053>I'll never believe anyone in their right mind uses linux on a home pc.The only meme distro is gentoo. Every other distro is unironically being used by everyday-people
>>737289608CachyOS Masterrace
>>737289923sounds like windows 11
>>737293926Not even pasta. The fag is probably generating a new imaginary issue he's having for every thread.
>>737294053>paid to shill a fee OSAnon...
>>737294289It's pasta, he posts it in most Linux threads.
>>737294254Gentoo isn't a meme distro, it's a flex distro
>>737294626It's both.
>>737289608I have installed linuxPraise me
>>737294710
I installed windows on steam deck, and I will also install windows on steam machine.
>>737289608"Year of the Linux gaming" has already happened years ago. 99% of gaming handhelds are Linux or Android. Windows is quite literally irrelevant in the handheld market.When it comes to PC gaming, "year of Linux gaming" has already been there for most people ever since Proton 10 was released.
>>737295191
>>737289923>buy a PC with hardware that doesn't support Linux>complainI cannot believe how shit Windows is man, I couldn't get it to work on a raspberry Pi... Fucking unusable trash OS.
>>737295373What made Proton 10 so significant and what is it at now?
>>737295373OK but this year for sure is the year for Linux PC gaming this time.
>>737295432>What made Proton 10 so significantDX12 translation and AVPro. >and what is it at now?Big thing now is NTSync. Moves Windows synchronization logic directly into the kernel, improving 1% lows and reducing stutter.
>xfce because the DE shouldn't take any performance away from my games>try to put time and date into the taskbar>it's fucking sideways>make it only show the time>it's still sideways>make it only show date>still sideways>there's like 3 clocks, all are sideways>one of the clocks has "digital clock" mode that only shows time, it's the correct way up>the text size changes depending on what the first digit is>it also shows a completely wrong time for a minute after starting the computer, corrects itself when it updates>try to put a program shortcut onto the taskbar>after 30 minutes the only way I found is to go to the panel settings, create a launcher module, select the program for it, and then drag it from the other side of the clock into the place where the program shortcuts are supposed to be in>this process is behind like 15 panels and dropdown lists and tabs and sub-menus>they all just say "Launcher" in the settings, so it's a huge pain in the ass to sort them>try to change icon sizes>when the program icons look good, the random icons like battery life are like 2x as big>when the random icons look good, the program icons are tiny>can't configure them separately>the random icons are impossible to sort cleanly for reasons that I can't even describe in any other way than that it's bugged, they just go into random order and/or randomly create empty spaces in the list
>>737295959>xfce because the DE shouldn't take any performance away from my gamesIt doesn't If you're still unsure you can install the new vram prioritisation shit
>>737295959Xfce uses as much ram as modern KDE retard, you fags are living off of 15 year old memes
>>737296031>>737296210What do you think the processors are there to do? Your computer doesn't work purely on storage capacity.
>>737295959Why would you use xfce over KDE though? I know you said "performance" but you're not running a toaster.If you really want to knock out DE overhead, don't use one.>>737296210Technically Xfce is about half as intensive as KDE but with modern hardware the difference is completely negligible.
>>737295432A ton of JP games and console ports became playable without issues with Proton 10 since it fixed the multi-process cut scenes in the game engines that were affected by this issue. Windows spawned by games, usually for the video player, are now a part of the main game window.Basically, before Proton 10, when a game would play a video cut scene instead of an in-game cut scene, it would spawn a separate window to play the video in. Meanwhile the main game window is completely black. Which basically meant you only had audio in cut scenes. And the bigger problem is that on desktops (or outside of Steam Deck/Bazzite gaming mode / gamescope) the video window would be focused automatically, which meant the main game window would lose focus. Which sounds like it's not an issue, but these game engines are made in a way where the game gets automatically paused if the main game window loses focus. Which meant as soon as a cut scene would start playing, the game would effectively freeze. You had to tab into the main game process and skip the cut scene to continue playing, which is not immediately clear to your average gamer.>>737295443Read the post again. Linux is already an excellent PC gaming OS for most people. It was ever since Proton 9 actually, Proton 10 just fixed some weird lingering issues.>>737295563NTSync is irrelevant in Proton. Proton is using FSync which is almost identical when it comes to performance, even in 1% lows. NTSync only improves performance in regular WINE and only if you're not already using FSync.>>737295959A DE is irrelevant to your performance. If anything KDE is the best option since all the niche gaming related improvements expect Plasma, systemd, etc. since Arch, SteamOS and Bazzite are the primary gaming distros.>>737296312You're not interacting with the desktop while running a game. You're not going to lose any CPU cycles.
>>737296436>You're not interacting with the desktop while running a gameI often play in windowed mode, and I want 0% of the CPU or GPU to go into rendering drop shadows and blurred glass effects for some windows.
>>737292758>not particularly excited about paying subscriptions for protonThis legally cannot happen
>>737296436>NTSync is irrelevant in Proton. Proton is using FSync which is almost identical when it comes to performance, even in 1% lows. NTSync only improves performance in regular WINE and only if you're not already using FSync. NTSync solves specific architectural bottlenecks that FSync can't. Some games like "Wait-for-All" logic that FSync has to emulate with multiple system calls. NTSync does this in one call, reducing context switching. It's important for quite a few games to bring them up to Windows performance.If it were irrelevant, they wouldn't be including it in Proton.
>>737296436>Read the post againFor sure, Anon, this is the year for Linux gaming for truly real this time. What I'm getting at is people are going to be switching this year. Not just goony beard men in their cave, but normal people. It's going to become a platform that companies have to take notice of it, and start supporting it.I predict SteamOS is going to come out as a standalone distro, not just for steam hardware.
>>737296436>NTSync is irrelevant in Proton. Proton is using FSync which is almost identical when it comes to performance, even in 1% lows. NTSync only improves performance in regular WINE and only if you're not already using FSync.I've seen about a 5% improvement in CD with it
>>737293848Can't you run them in a VM?
>>737296514>being this disingenuous1. Borderless "fullscreen" windows don't get window decorations.2. Xfce also has shadows.3. If you want to disable shadows and blur, you can do so globally in KDE settings.4. If you want to disable shadows only in some windows, you can do so in KDE settings.5. If you want to disable shadows and blur effects while a game is running, you can do that as well.Xfce is not in any way more efficient than any other DE.>>737296794"Year of the Linux desktop" is an arbitrary term which by itself means nothing. To me it only means it being as usable as the alternatives, which it already has been for a while.>Not just goony beard men in their cave, but normal people.Already happened. Linux is at over 6% market share.>I predict SteamOS is going to come out as a standalone distro, not just for steam hardware.Won't happen any time soon. nVidia is the biggest bottleneck. Despite only making up 15% of the desktops/laptops it's actually used by over 80% of gaming machines on Steam. SteamOS will be an AMD-only and OEM-only OS for at least a few more years.
>>737297257>6%that's not normal people, Anon. It's weird retards like us. >nVidia is the biggest bottleneckThey have been making significant improvements to their open drivers. Gaming on Nvidia under Linux is no longer a meme. 590+ drivers have been excellent. AI forced them to support Linux, and we've been reaping the benefits.
>Proton for ARMValve are also going to improve your mobile gaming
>>737297257>Borderless "fullscreen"That's not windowed mode.>you can disable...I don't want to write a book into this thread but if you make a DE with all kinds of effects, making it optimized with effects disabled might not be one of your priorities. The fundamental architecture might still be poorly optimized compared to a DE that's specifically designed to be minimal and efficient and that doesn't have to include support for fancy effects into it's design.I also use a laptop that's designed to be portable, not for AAA gaming, so not only is it's performance limited, the battery life matters too, especially when I'm doing something like what I'm doing right now: posting in 4chan instead of playing a game.
>>737297584It's specifically for VR and I am here for it.
I am sick of people in these threads acting like linux is issueless and conversely sick of people making up shit about it claiming it's unusable. Can't we have a normal discussion where the problems aren't swept under the rugs and windows glazers don't lie?
thoughts on endeavouros?
>>737297562>weird retardsthis is polling all of steamlook at youtube, you'll see videos shilling linux every single day
>>737289923my buddy who uses CachyOS can't connect his samsung galaxy buds but! I just found this :phttps://github.com/timschneeb/GalaxyBudsClientLinux is in a tough spot because a lot of audio devices are not supported officially on Linux by their OEM. My shit ass audio device has an .exe only driver for Windows 10 on the manufacturer's website. Who knows if the audio driver works on Windows 11 but it would probably use some generic Microsoft provided audio driver.
>>737297773It's good. Less fiddly than cachy or vanilla arch, but still arch.>>737297861I have seen. Lots of zoomies are jumping into it. It's a good thing. >>737297884Most audio works perfectly fine with ALSA drivers. Pipewire is very robust. Everything I have thrown at it just works, from my WXM4s to some random temu buds. You can always just try it, you might be surprised.
>>737289608>linux>gaminganon...
>>737297562>that's not normal people, Anon. It's weird retards like us.Normal people are using Linux, anon. I personally know a few literal normies who only use a Linux PC and they've used Linux for at least a year or two now. I've even installed Linux on my grandma's PC and she is using it. My entire household is Linux only.Stop making shit up and claiming "normal people don't use Linux" when this hasn't been the case in almost a decade. What do you think many paid developers use on their company-provided work machines? It's usually either Linux or macOS unless they're in the Microsoft ecosystem. Who do you think bought a Steam Deck? It's normies, and many of them are using their Steam Deck as their primary or secondary PC, interacting with Linux/KDE constantly.>>737297607>The fundamental architecture might still be poorly optimized compared to a DE that's specifically designed to be minimal and efficient and that doesn't have to include support for fancy effects into it's design.So why use Xfce then? Xfce has window decorations and shadows by default. If you want to disable compositing while playing a windowed game, you have to do it manually in Xfce. So, again, you're being a disingenuous retard.Not to mention nothing about Xfce is "optimized". The only reason it's """lightweight""" is because it's effectively featureless since only a handful of people are working on it and they don't have the time or money to make the DE actually good. And there aren't any good efforts in actual, real optimization. If Xfce were actually this "lightweight" and "optimized" then Valve wouldn't have used KDE Plasma on the Steam Deck and Xfce would be the main DE/WM used by other, weaker handhelds.>battery lifeAgain, no difference between DEs.
>>737297562>6%>that's not normal people, Anon. It's weird retards like us.the actual weridos are the "innovators" that buy the new thing for the sake of new. like the people spending thousands on the first IBM home computers just to tinker withwe're well into the early adopters phase where the tech is off the beaten path but clearly useful. only issue is that linux isn't magnitudes more useful unless microslop REALLY fucks something up.
>>737298293>So why use Xfce then?Because every source other than you says that it's one of the most efficient DEs. I don't have enough autism to start profiling something like this so I'll just take everyone by their word.
>>737298423>my sources from 2015 say you're wrong!Sure buddy, trust some random parroting self-proclaimed journalists over a billion dollar company like Valve which went with KDE Plasma and million dollar companies which ship Linux gaming handhelds which use either Fluxbox or KWin/Plasma.
>>737298423you know, it would take you 5 minutes to download kde and see if it's really hurting your performance
>>737298524I see so I'm talking to a fanboy whose whole worldview is colored by his perceived gods.
>>737298320>unless microslop REALLY fucks something upThey already are, which is why people are switching. Windows 10 going EoL is just the first wave. Most will switch to 11, for sure, but the rest are going Linux. >>737298423They're not wrong but KDE is extremely performant.
>>737298667>They already arenah, that's relatively minor in the tech world, normies are barely going to even notice. they need to catastrophically fuck up to breach the trust of the tech illiterate in order to get a real adoption wave comparable to other tech innovations.linux also doesn't need mass adoption. capturing the computer hobbyist crowd and steadily creeping into the mainstream through osmosis is also a huge success.
>>737289608Mint on my laptop and cachyos on my desktop. My windows days are over
>>737298592>I have no Gods because my Gods are the journalists who constantly parrot incorrect informationI'd rather base my information on successful commercial products than unsuccessful and irrelevant news outlets.
>>737299025They're well on their way with the amount of AI jeetcode going into it. They have had several massive vulnerabilities, they just need a big catastrophic failure, which Recall will be once it is breached.
>>737299221Welcome to the light side. Your programming socks and estrogen will be left on your desk.
>>737300306none of that are things normies notice
>>737300786They will when their nudes and porn history get leaked.
>>737300856>normies>caring about nudes and porn historyNormies aren't this terminally online. They wouldn't know their nudes or their porn history is leaked.
I WOULD use Linux but unfortunately I'm stuck on windows so I can play Fortnite with IRL friends. I could dual-boot but I'm lazy.
>>737289608It's the same shit as gaming on windows but with some games broken.What actually improve is that linux is more zippy because it is not constantly hogging the storage with an anti-virus and automatic update shit running the whole time, and bloated webpage shit running the explorer, and you can change how the windows looks, but none of this is gaming related.
>>737300948>Normies aren't this terminally onlineAnon...This isn't 1992.
>>737301056Email Tim and call him a Weenie until he ticks the box.
>>737301153Most games work thouever, and some even run better on Linux.
>>737301056Good thing using Linux isn't something you owe to anyone
>>737301056Nobody is forcing you to play the game. You can just stop playing it.
>>737301056same boat here, except in my case instead of games im mostly worried about software compatibility like argus monitoring and especially for my minidsp. spent 1k bucks on the hardware + dirac license and neither support linux natively and I don't really have the time to fuck with possible options and dual booting has come to mind but I don't really have a lot of space available and nvme prices are skyrocketing.all in all, pretty shitty situation, but w11 iot ltsc hasnt really given me too many issues after sanitizing it.
>>737301572>just don't socialize with your friends in the space you like to socializeI use linux but this is retarded advice. If the games he likes don't work there's literally no point for him.
>>737301572They play on PS5 so I'm limited to crossplay games with them. If it makes you feel any better I run IoT LTSC Windows 11.
>>737301737>this is retarded adviceNo, it isn't. If he admits he'd use Linux and wants to use it, but the only blocker is a single fucking digital toy then the choice is very simple. He can socialize with his friends in other games and maybe even help them stop playing trash games.It's time to fucking grow up and stop being entitled. You don't have to be there playing every single shit game every single time a friend group tries to peer pressure you into doing it. If your friends wanted you to play Diablo Immortal and pay for microtransactions, would you do it? I know I wouldn't.
>>>using wifi in current yearAbsolute mong
>>737289923>switch to Linux>wifi works out of the box>need to switch back to windows for other reasons>reinstall windows>no wifi drivers>have to buy USB to Ethernet adaptor
>>737297660it's not just vrthey're obviously going to invade the android no man's landremember to thank timmy for investing into the lawsuit, it couldn't have been done without him
>>737301056Why don’t you like windows where everything works out of the box, and you want to switch to something where everything works like an ass and will add headaches to you.
>>737306216Because>windows is only going to get worse down the line>linux is only going to get better down the line>i have an amd gpu and the open source amd driver stack on linux fucks hard>i've used linux for gaming in the past and have had great success with it, equal performance parity with windows in intensive games like darktide and MH wilds>bill gates was on the island
>>737295421>Just swap to Linux>My computer that uses windows fine can't use Linux>Woooow just spend 3000 dollars on new hardware and stop crying
>>737306690WiFi adapters don't cost 3000 dollars.
>Linux is great and can do anything and works with all hardware so long as you don't do anything it can't do and don't run it on anything that it doesn't support>You should swap to Linux and just give up all the software and hardware you like in order to make the switch. You don't NEED anything so who cares if you give up what you want. >Oh you have a problem with my esoteric machine with incomplete instructions? Have you tried killing yourself?>Uh oh my audio went out again but after a 7 hour adventure it's fixed again thanks to three community patches found on three different sites and being told I was intrinsically evil for having the wrong sound card>You're happy with your functional machine? Don't you know it doesn't get updates anymore? Btw I never update ever and that's a good thing. >Something new came out and doesn't support Linux, the fucking Jews won't integrate support as a personal attack on me, fuck them I hate their product but I demand they give it to me anywayWindows is fucked and has been since 10 fired their QA testers but Linux is unimaginably insufferable, I use it for a couple of servers but holy fuck people recommending it to everyone don't understand the general public and are the most socially stunted people to exist.
always funny to see the jeets come out of the woodwork whenever a thread like this comes around on /v/curious behavior that should be studied
>>737307151anon the "generic public" use the browser for 90% of their PC usagePut them on Mint and they wouldn't even notice
