START KILLING GAMES!NOW!
>>737291236
>ask people on /v/ why [e celeb of the week] angers them>they just post pics of him in unflattering poses or say "he's a loser cuck suck fuck gay nigger chud tranny buzzword buzzword buzzword">"no but what did he do-">repeat step 2>ask people on /v/ why [other e celeb of the week] is so popular and why they support him>they just post pics of him edited to be a ''''gigachad'''' or say "he's le epic based trad white man chad he won he won he won">"no but what opinions of his do you believe in-">repeat step 2i'm starting to realize /v/ is full of teenage girls who don't actually hold opinions but instead parse group consensus about who they're supposed to like or hate based on superficial nonsenseanyway who is this guy?
>>737291236Evil Ross Scott with his horrific "this old retro game is good" videos... Can we stop him?
>>737291236>REGULATION IS BAD! OWNING THINGS IS BAD!
>>737291542>giving more powers to the state is le epic based trad white manhe's a communist troon third worldist and so is everybody who supports him
>>737291780>step 2
This is the American who tells you European style socialism is bad.
>>737291780>Literally does what the post he's replying to is criticizing Kek I can't tell if people here have no self awareness or no reading comprehension or what
I still remember how many Americans chimped out when Steam was forced to give refunds and called it evil communist government intervention.Truly the ultimate goycattle.
>>737291282They call him emerald head...
Most video games are e-waste
>>737291542>anyway who is this guy?Do your own research, nigger.
>>737291808you're a brown troon>>737291889you're a brown troon
>>737292110you're a brown troon
>>737291542This post is a rake on the ground and anons on here are physically incapable of not stepping on it
>>737292347Stip replying to yourself.
>>737291542An alien mold organism that has taken the shape of a Freeman and his mindRoss Scott, vidya youtube guy who started a movement to try and push publishers/developers not to effectively "kill" games by pulling all support and leaving it unplayable(if all the servers for your always online singleplayer game are taken down and there's no way to actually play your game). He was in the EU parliament recently and gave a speech which is fairly surreal given how he is in his videos.
>>737292520That actually sounds perfectly reasonableI'd ask why /v/ is so buttmad about it but I know deep down the reason is probably just that they feel obligated to be for some reason
>>737292571/v/ is an SKG board though despite the pathetic amount of shills.
>>737291732>I own games
>>737291839>actually owning things you buy is somehow socialismwhat
>>737292571/v/ are just contrarian. Also a lot of anon on /v/ are American. And Americans are braimwash from childhood to think "basic customer rights = communism".
>I boughted games on steam so I actually own those games
>START KILLING GAMES!
You retards figured out the constant kvetching about Americans instead of discussing SKG stuff is an obvious jewish divide and conquer tactic, right?
>>737292942Gabe may say you don't but goldberg says you do.
>>737292942And according to basic customer you should own those games, because nobody questions your physical ownership of a book or a movie. The fact that digital owners have no right to own anything for no reason is exactly the issue EU is now taking care of.
>>737293040>The fact that digital owners have no right to own anythingoh but you do own something: the license to play the games, which can be revoked by steam anytime. they already told this before you even buy.
>>737293123>own>licenseI'm not sure you know what these words mean when used together.
>>737292571Babel Media (litterally paid shills) is very active on /v/, that's the reason.
>>737293123There is no such thing as licence that can be revoked at any time - it's actually against EU law, because before the purchase, the seller is legally obligated to tell when the license expires.Also, EU Parliment shut down this logic immediately. Calling it "a license" is semantics that doesn't adress the problem that are the predatory practices towards digital buyers.
>>737293324>Calling it "a license" is semantics that doesn't adress the problem that are the predatory practices towards digital buyers.A bonus in favour of us mere mortals is the EU takes a dim view on companies trying to weasel out of things by going "ACKSHUALLY" for something that the average person would take as something else.I.e it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck therefor it should be a duck regardless of what Big Corp Inc. claims in the fine print.
>>737292841Everything that opposes the corposhill doctrine is antisemitic.
>>737291282Lmao
>>737292978It's just ultra contrarians who have been posting on this board nonstop for over a decade and can't figure out a different way to communicate. If there was actual jewery going on then the normie spaces like Youtube and leddit would be flooded with Ross hate.
>>737293669>then the normie spaces like Youtube and leddit would be flooded with Ross hate
>>737292571Most threads were very positive when the movement required public support. Normal people stopped talking about it once it got to the point where the EU were compelled to take a look at it, because they knew it was out of their hands and were awaiting information.However, negative threads are cropping up now due to a minority of genuine bootlickers assmad about losing backed up by shitposters aping them for attention, because one of the primary symptoms of severe autism is not getting bored of repeating the same tasks obsessively.
>>737293949If you want to get extra conspiracy minded SKG is the foot in the door for the EU to suddenly start looking at other software related woes in their domain that certain companies have significantly more to lose should the EU decide to not go in their favour. It does briefly get mentioned in Ross' presentation when right to repair is brought up and companies like john deere are sweating that they will be targeted next.
>>737292571mostly just contrarians and paid shills, ross is one of the few youtubers that's generally liked by /v/, he always wasI personally don't really care about this because none of these "always online" games are worth playing, but anything that hurts corpos is good in my book
>>737291236>>737291656
>>737294373I think companies shouldn't be forced to keep their servers up forever, that's dumb and retarded and will ironically make them less willing to make games with official servers to begin with, it makes no sense to keep them running because one autist still wants to play his game in official lobbies 10 years after everyone else leftBut I DO think you should at least have access to the rest of the game, be able to play singleplayer or make local/private servers, that seems perfectly logicalIt's like if I buy a coffee machine, the company is free to go out of business or stop manufacturing the coffee pods that I like, but they can't come to my house and take my machine away so I can't use other brands coffee in it anymore
>>737291542>anyway who is this guy?Theres no way you've been posting on /v/ in the last two years (at least, most of its history really counting freemans mind and game dungeon) if you dont know who Ross Scott is by now.Also the whole >lol literally never heard of himshtick you faggots do is one of the most tryhardy poser things you doyou know who these ecelebs are, pretending you dont doesnt make you look cool, we all know youre lying
When that horrible foid MP started making that "us gamers amirite" speech, I wanted vidya dead and buried
He even think about THE MOVIE at this point?Poor Ross...he just wanted to MAKE THE MOVIE
>>737294478>less willing to make games with official serversthat's kinda the whole point of this, to replace the current official server/matchmaking style with the old private servers that people actually liked
>>737291236Start killing publishers.
>>737294478>I think companies shouldn't be forced to keep their servers up forever, that's dumb and retarded and will ironically make them less willing to make games with official servers to begin withGood thing thats not what this movement is asking for and never wasI didnt read the rest of your post because at this point I just assume anyone who repeats that falsehood is either genuinely mentally retarded or a paid shill
kill all game studiosruin gaming until the normalfags leave and it's a weirdo otaku hobby again
>>737294640Deep web gaming is /our/ future
>>737291542>/v/ is one teenage girl
But what is Asmongold's opinion about this?
>>737294627>I didnt read the rest of your post This must be the one (1) time someone said they didn't read and actually meant it because I didn't say anything on the movement itself? I was just expressing my generalized opinions... Calm down and read next time
>>737291542guy who thinks we should be allowed to run our own servers and keep our stuff when support for a game ends which means he's literally Epstein o algo
>>737294692i thought they were the same guy
>>737294506link?
>>737294692He was too busy making fun of Concord being mentioned to actually make any coherent point.
>>737294202>Right to repair>Shutting down the enterprise license mafia>Jailbreaking Sharthome appliances that passed to private equity and now have subscriptions or additional fees for shit you already boughtThe quantity of people with a vested interest in this not being a slippery slope encompasses most of the software industry.
>>737294692Dead rat alarm clock.
>>737293479>ywn own a giant wife 10 times your size What's even the point of living
He won
Gamers don't deserve SKG.
>>737294942It makes it very clear that the hysterical claims of SKG being a slippery slope to complete government overreach are desperate projection
>>737294675Yes, her name is Vivian
>>737292571Because if a game gets shut down 9/10 times it deserves to be forgotten.The main game he gave as an example in parliament was fucking Concord.
>>737296017Thats just like, your opinion man.
>>737291934Literal garbage ends up on museums so not a point
>>737294692>right wing figure gets mysteriously astroturfed to hell and back>cohencidentally deflects all criticisms against jews and israelimagine having an IQ above 80 and still listening to jewmongoloid
>>737296017nta but i don't care for concord, i literally didn't play it, but how long till you people realize that your rights hinge on the rights of those you hate?it's like people who say "i don't support freedom of speech because i don't want to say hate speech, i don't need it!" and then are shocked that they're being censored too
>>737296017>Because if a game gets shut down 9/10 times it deserves to be forgotten.But some of my favourite games are obscure 90's games...Plus, making your game rely on being continually successful for years upon years is a fool's errand.
>>737295152how's porting blockgame to hytale going
>>737296050That’s an objective fact and a constant law in the universe.Genes and ideas operate the same way, if it’s not good it gets discarded and forgotten.Why should we keep and preserve garbage around?
>>737294202One of the politicians compared this to getting your car bricked because the manufacturer flipped a switch. If Moldman wants this to succeed, that is exactly the way this should be presented.
>>737294864https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43FkWGIO1ZI&t=433s42m10s enjoy your cringe comedy
>>737291236As you wish, Ross-sama
>>737292571You would have never had SKG threads if /v/ had actually been against it. Most of the posts against it at this point are literal copypasta that can be found in the archives.
>>737296164One should never forgive. One should never forget. Doing those is objectively cuckold behavior.
>>737296138Good for you, most 90s and 2000s games are still playable. The movement is primarily aimed at modern games from the 2010s that are tied to central servers. Genuine shit like gachas, Destiny, Concord, Anthem, Highguard, Fortnite and Marathon.
>>737296267Exactly
>>737291236Can I play my copy of the crew 1 yet? On console. ANYONE?
>>737296017Even in your own hyperbole you admit that 1/10 games get stolen from consumers when they don’t deserve to be.But that’s besides the point, because even the most colossal retard who bought a fucking awful game doesn’t deserve to have their product stolen from them.There’s a reason why we have laws to prosecute scam artists, and some street shitter claiming the victim had it coming because of how stupid the victim or blatant the scam was doesn’t change that.
>>737296174That Polish SKG lawyer also brought up a good point that I think might actually become a starting point in trying to fix the problem. The digital ownership rights essentially don't exist, compared to the physical ownership rights and that should be remedied first, because there is no reason why a buyer who purchases a digital medium should have less rights than a buyer who buys a physical medium, especially since nowadays 99% of games ARE digital. And the only difference from a legal perspective is that the storage device is more abstract.
Ferret fucker lost against the MOLDGuess he was out of mana and couldnt purge the disease effect of something
>>737296276And I'm saying if my favourite obscure games were like that, I would not be able to experience them.I love experiencing trash, because it makes me reflect on what I actually like in games.Plus just the simple fact that if someone pays for something, they should keep it.
>>737291732Multiplayer GAAS are not a product that you own. They are a service, like massage, or a concert.You pay a fee for a ticket, go to the concert, then go home. You dont get perpetual access to the concert.You dont like it? Dont buy it.
>>737296470A concert ticket has a distinct start and end date/time. A GAAS game has the problem that it relies on external hype to continue, thus has an undetermined lifespan.>don't buy itI don't, but people do. Someone having shit taste should not mean that their property should be destroyed.
I buy a game I want to play said game. If I can't due to the developer, I want a full refund. Simple as
>>737296536>not being able to play it when i decide is part of the experiencecheckmate skg fags
>>737296470>You dont like it? Dont buy it.Voting with your wallet doesn't work. Especially because the practice nowadays is so widespread thanks to Steam and our friend Gabe, you would have to stop buying games altogether if you don't agree to the publishers terms.And that point was ALSO brought up on the EU hearing.
>>737296705>you would have to stop buying games altogether if you don't agreeLiterally not my problem. So buy nothing then. You have that choice, use it.
Voting with your wallet doesn't work when you're surrounded by mouthbreathing cattle
>>737296864It's not a choice, actually, not legally anyway.>Literally not my problemGood to know you are arguing in bad faith.
>>737296597
I can understand his point but realistically 90% of games that just disappear are UbiSoft shovelware shit enjoyed by like 20 people.
>>737297136so doing it for the 10% that matter is bad simply because you don't like the 90%?
>>737296864Actually it is, because people who have lost patience with the industry refusing to self regulate have decided to go over their heads and force the issue.This was a completely unnecessary initiative that the game industry could have stopped at any time, but they didn’t. If you’re mad at this situation, blame the publishers and developers who refused to give so much as a reacharound when fucking the consumer up the ass for decades on end.
>>737297042He really is the embodiment of reddit.
>>737291357>lust provoking image???????
>>737297389
what is an example of people actually being double crossed by a game shutting down in an unreasonable way? a game that wasn't dead years after the fact or an abysmal failure like concord getting server support pulled.
>>737297493Every game that got borked because they were using Games for Windows Live.Anybody remembers that nonsense?
>>737297493Darkspore
>>737297304It's not bad, but that 10% is just a tiny speck
>>737297552I played a shit ton of coop on the first DaS PC port with it. What a piece of crap that was.
>>737292841STOP THINKING after occupy wall street you're supposed to call ANYTHING but slutsquatting for corporations communism be a good meat golem and obey NOW!
>>737291236When I was a kid, before having a computer, I owned hide and seek, tag, hopscotch and capture the flag (with whatever random objects I found).The other kids always came to me to play these games, because I owned them and I hosted a lobby for them.30 years later I can still host them and find people to play with.If you can't do this with a game at any point, you don't own it.
>>737298174>disingenious post no. 56743
ross scott took his sweet american time and went to argue for consumer rights he is a hero
>>737298174I don't think parents would like it if you hosted games for little kids
>>737291282Is that achievable natty?
>>737291236I'll kill you, with a tire iron.How did the EU talks go?
>>737291236Another concord thread?
>>737298292Turns out the EU parliment is in favour of the initiative and is genuinely interested in solving the problem.Most MPs were either gamers themselves or have children that play videogames and they seem to understand the problem and its ramifications. So it was in general a huge success.
>>737296017>we shouldn't own video games because concord happened
>>737292942The only problem he, steam and other digital storefronts have is the requirement(?) to be able to resell digital games. That's like the only thing that could destroy digital storefronts. If the law somehow ends up that user can't resell their digital copies of the game they "own", digital storefronts will immediately change "rent" to "buying" without even thinking twice. That's how i see it.
>>737298427And hey, maybe there are like 5 people on the planet that genuinely liked Concord or Highguard. Why are we to judge? And why should a corporation deny them the right to play a game they have paid for?
>>737293324>the seller is legally obligated to tell when the license expires.source?
>>737297042This is still missing "Insane behavior."
>>737298586>Why are we to judge?where the FUCK do you think you are
>>737298292ok agent 47 chromosomes
What was the first game that really kicked ross off on this? I remember him getting like unreasonably upset about darkspore when they announced the shutdown.
>>737298385>Turns out the EU parliment is in favour of the initiative and is genuinely interested in something that allows them to sink their claws and teeth into a potentialy lucrative and previously untapped area.yeah no shit they are
>>737298629Some made up european law otherwise licenses would be illegal
>>737291934They are, but it should be up to *me* whether I want to play the garbage or not.
>>737298843Battleforge was the earliest I can remember him spotlighting it
>>737296694>not being able to play it when i decide is part of the experience>checkmate skg fagsJudge says otherwise
>>737298974>a unregulated, chaotic Wild West, where the corporations are allowed to fuck the customer in the ass without consequence and every legal rule operates on a glorified honor system? EU's going to have a field day with this.Why the fuck are you against it? Do you like getting fucked in the ass by EA and Ubisoft?
>>737299001>otherwise licenses would be illegalThey kinda are, because no EULA is going to hold any credibility in front of European court. Because EULA is not law. It's an agreement you are forced to sign.
>>737298974I don't really get what you think the benefit for EU here is. Like, do you think they are planning to live off penalties for non-compliance? Enforcing consumer rights is probably not revenue maximizing in general and it's not like they are nationalising gamedev.
>indian hours>people defending corposI am noticing
>>737299414>people
>>737297632>learn about game>sounds cool>can never play itMan
>>737299916Some Brazilian dude made a local server for it
>>737291282>absolutely optimal
I'm sort of annoyed they never mentioned online modes in games with a substantial single playerI want to play Assassin's Creed Brotherhood multiplayer but i cannot.I want to play Dark Souls 2 online 20+ years from now, but i probably can't because the law doesn't apply retroactively.>>737298843The Crew 1they patched The Crew 2 suspiciously enough with offline stuff
>>737291282'mirin that jawline
>>737299304It’s a complete no brainer for the EU. Very few GaaS tumours come from EU companies, and the few that do are on the EU’s shit list anyway, meaning that these regulations barely impact EU companies but fuck with America and China, all while being so overwhelmingly pro consumer that no sane voter would feel slighted by it.In the current geopolitical climate, they couldn’t have asked for a better middle finger to bring out.
>>737296470Or, I can use my vote to create regulation that protects the customer.Don't like it? Vote against it.
>>737296470I don't agree, bootlicker. The crew wasn't GAAS
SKG is based an American in origin god bless Ross Scott for upholding white dignity against the brown masses who want everything to be f2p live service brown slop
TOTAL VIDYA DEATH
>>737296470>Buy a T-shirt, Waterbottle, and Album at the concert I paid for>Band breaks up and all my belongings music are taken back retroactively because they no longer want to allow me access if it doesn't make them money anymore with no more CDS ever in print and all digital versions of the songs scraped from everywhere
>>737296189>I thought to come for the sidequest
>>737299304This >>737300553 plus the sweet sweet lobbybux and bribes they will get from the companies affected to circumvent that legislation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXcogLmxnJwrate his speech
>>737296864>you don’t like your wagie jobs that don’t even pay for half of your rented studio apartment or the processed slop food you’re forced to buy every day?>just stop living, kill yourself
>>737291236real talk, do you think the eu parliament are actually going to give a fuck about this? i feel like they see video games as a money waste commodity and all the other regulations like apple forcing usb c makes sense because thats a billion dollar industry for USB production makers which means more tax income, when it comes to video games, its not like theyre going to make money from any of these regulations
>>737299130>unregulated, chaotic Wild West, where the corporations are allowed to fuck the customer in the ass without consequence and every legal rule operates on a glorified honor systemThat’s American as fuck though, it’s exactly the vision the founding fathers had for the new world. Who the fuck is Europe to deny it?
>>737301658do you think all they do is only take care of cool headline-defining laws? it's just a job, and the law is made out of all sorts of regulations, small or not
>>737296470>buy a massage>2 years later company says they're restructuring into a pancake restaurant>use fell magicks to retroactively sap the comfort and lack of tension in my spine, causing me to be crippled from the pain, because they dont want to do massages anymore>"shouldve read the EULA lmao"
>>737296470>Multiplayer GAAS are not a product that you own. They are a service, like massage, or a concert.Correct, they are services, and they'll have to be marketed as such, and follow service-related regulations, such as early termination protections and refunds. We wouldn't want to act as if they were real products, after all.
>>737298537I wonder if a non-refundable but irrevocable license would be enough to satisfy EU regulators
>>737291542>Go on eceleb gossip threads>What the hell, man, why is everyone retarded?You have nobody but yourself to blame.
>>737302479I meant non-transferable
>>737300981He mostly read from his notes and made a couple of comments here and there when technical difficulties/people fucking up came up. Kinda meh. The speech itself was fine but it was kinda monotonous sounding, because he was just reading a pamphlet and nothing else
>>737298174If everyone else dies (because one day they will), how will you play tag or hide n seek as the only person on earth?Your multiplayer shit is NOTHING without offline bots or a singleplayer campaign, buddy.
>>737301815You see anon, game publishers entered this industry under the rather childish delusion that they were going to fuck everybody else, and nobody was going to fuck them. With The Sims, Hitman, The Crew and half a hundred other games, they put their rather naive theory into operation. They sowed the wind, and now they are going to reap the whirlwind.
>>737302875Based and WW2 pilled
>>737300943>plus the sweet sweet lobbybux and bribes they will get from the companies affected to circumvent that legislation.Do you have a single fact to back that up?
take notes on who are against this for they are bad people and deserve to be punished
>>737304315>people That's generousI prefer to identify them as either rats or cattle
>>737292571All the major triple gAAAy studios formed a lobbyist group to stop SKG. They literally hire jeetshills to attack SKG on /v/ and other platforms 24/7.
>>737297389Another lib mogged out the thread
>>737293949>However, negative threads are cropping up now due to a minority of genuine bootlickers assmad about losingIt's cute that you think this. We haven't gotten the final answer yet, which means nothing is even remotely close to being set in stone. The current thread spam is a last ditch effort to sway opinion in corpo favor, perpetuated by the same jeets that have been shilling against it since the start.>>737298537>can't resellUnlikely, because that would be a 180 on what it currently is (technically). Gabe and Timmy can't legally forbid you to resell your games, but they're not obligated to help you facilitate the sale either.
>>737291282>get me out of this wackass crystal prison
>>737294487>Theres no way you've been posting on /v/ in the last two yearsIt is possible if you only come to this board to talk about video-games, instead of gossiping about e-celebs like some retarded faggot.
>>737291542This man is your friend. He fights for humanity.
>>737295152he won if the goal was to fuck as many ferrets as possible in one day
The MOLD will have to make the movie at this point
>>737305097Their goal was to shitpost the initiative to death before it could even get to this point, which failed utterly.It’s outside everyone’s hands now, since EU bureaucrats won’t care about American opinions in the slightest, and that (and I suppose India) is where it’s largely coming from.
>>737301815>corporate dystopia without all the cool cyberpunk shitWhy would anyone want that.
>>737291282>optimal man provide optimal solution
>>737296017So if physical goods are no longer produced people should also come to your house and remove your copy I take it? After all they deserve to be forgotten.
>>737304976>cattleThey worship cows to a point where they drink their piss. They'd probably take that as a compliment.
>>737291889it's a mostly american website so obviously the majority of people have very poor reading skills
>>737304084just some precedent for what that is worth over and over and over again
>>737305395B-But I could be a CEO one day, and then I'll be the one taking advantage of others!This is such a fucking sociopathic mindset, I don't understand how people can have it unironically.
>>737292571/v/ cares more about shitposting and ragebaiting for the (you)s than having any actual discussion
>>737295152the retarded gay furfag award
>>737296470GAAS is peddled as a product while being treated as a service because of wonky regulations and nobody making corpos responsible for being assholes. I don't buy it, but if you think corpos shouldn't get raped every time it's possible - you are trans and brazillian.
>>737295152Oh hey I think this guy worked at blizzard
>>737296017>let's make sure there are no trace of shitty games so in the future, publishers can flip the narrative and say the games were always good and gamers were too entitledI WANT Concord to be playable, along with all the other major failures in the gaming industry, so we have a permanent reminder of their failure.
>>737295152AYO THIS NIGGA DRINKING BREAST MILK
>>737292878euros are so fucking stupidyou keep talking about "customer rights", but you NEVER even mention corporate rights??? the very corporations that give us food, water, clothing, and sometimes healthcare don't deserve any rights??? fuck you eurotrash commie STINKY
>>737305634This. Retardation must be preserved, be it for amusement or our own sanity
>>737305791>tfw I think about innocent billion dollars companies hurting because entitled gamers want to "own" "their" product
>>737291236When Ross(pbuh) gives the sign alhamdulillah we will light the beacon of war and raise the flag of vengeance. Not a single Ubisoft shareholder will know peace, not a single gacha slopper shall be bereft of an offline version to play his shitty game when it inevitably goes EoS.Prepare yourself.
>>737291282Achievable natty?
>>737305934Inshallah, 70 brand new games shall await us for our sacrifice.
>>737300981>chest hair isn't showingthank god, that shit's fucking gross
>>737291236Even though I hate SKG with a passion, what I'd honestly want to see is publishers say they won't sell in the EU as a pure fuck you to them if it goes throughHatred for EUtrash > Hatred for SKG
>>737291282Reminder that if leftists are making funny pictures of your face it means they desperately want to murder you a la Kirk
>>737306034I’d want that too, because seeing devs slash their revenue by a third in an egotistical tantrum is going to make shareholders ritually sacrifice them in public as a warning to every other arrogant retard tempted to do the same thing
>>737306259>make shareholders ritually sacrifice them in publicHoly shit, now I want to see that.
I fucking hate video games.
>>737297493Age of ReckoningIt was being actively developed, it's just that their license for Warhammer franchise lapsed But it's one of the cases where fans actually got their own servers up and running
>>737300113we're not in brazil though
>>737306947based based based
>>737294692https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoDZMcTTHGo
>>737295152>he won so much he had to fire his main mod because he couldn't afford to pay him anymore
>>737305934beacon is haram, brozzer, don't touch it
>>737307392funny how this movement has support from the entire political spectrum. Was literally anyone against this other than Maldavius?
>>737307573Nintendo hate it for sure
>>737305494>t. doesn't follow the rules of acquisition
Imagine they make it retroactive to when the petition was originally made and anyone trying to escape it ahead of time has to either put the games back up or pay an assload of money. Post yfw somehow Concord has returned
>>737309078Would be funny if they didn't already state several times that they're not trying to enforce anything against currently active live service games even after a bill is potentially introduced
>>737309078>Post yfw somehow Concord has returnedSHIEEEETsomehow palpatine survived
>>737291236give it to me real, is our guy going to win?
>>737296017Bazz deserved better
>>737291236>ok so we're getting absolutely BTFO how the fuck do we turn things around, fellow communist corpo bootlickers? At this rate the people will be able to own what they buy!>I know, let's claim that it's actually SKG that wants to kill games>fucking genius
>>737291839>Not being scammed and actually owning something that you paid for is le socialismkys corpodicksucker
>>737292571>I'd ask why /v/ is so buttmad about it/v/ is unanimously on Ross's side, the people seething about SKG are corpo shills and retarded third world tourists who are assmad at the concept of people having rights.
>>737310067But does. His actions will lead to dozens of studios prematurely shutting down their games inorder to avoid the new rules and then cancels games they are working on to avoid having to support them indefinately like he wants. He isnt' saving games hes killing them
>>737296017I don't get this desire to have bad media be erased.It's fun to look back at dogshit games from the past and laugh at them in retrospective.The argument of "it's bad therefore nobody should be able to play it" just seems short sighted. Who the hell will care 20 years from now to "btfo" Sony and the Concord devs.
>>737310216SKG is not retroactive and there will obviously be a grace period. Your lies will only work on others who are as retarded and uninformed as you are, but not on /v/.
>>737310216>nooo they won't make predatory gaas slop anymoregood riddance then.
>>737296864There's got to be some punishment for bad behaviour. If were under the impression that corporations are people, then why wouldn't they recieve punishments for bad behavior?
Great, this retarded thread where "people" shill against skg .Is this going to turn into the same people sperging how fixing your tractor is terrorism? That was a highlight from last thread for sure.
>>737310306Can you fucking stop ruining good baiting with obvius facts everybody knows ?
>>737291236dude...what if...we started...kissing...games......?
>>737296470So we have regulations for digital liscenses, digital software, digital music, Ebooks and kindles. Why wouldn't this extend to video games let alone online multiplayer services?
>>737310067>absolutely BTFOthats SKG though
>>737310216>to avoid having to support them indefinatelyusing this imaginary talking point has to be bait at this point
>>737296017>Obscure video game that (You) like>"An underrated gem! I may be one of only 5 people who plays it but it's fantastic and more people should know about it!">Obscure video game that (You) dislike or don't care about>"The game has 5 players? LOL! If it's failing then it deserves to be forgotten and no one should play or enjoy it!"
Ferret fucker status?
>do nothing>win again
>>737291357lmao
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I WANT TO OWN NUFFIN EVERYTHING MUST BE RENTED
>>737310510because apparently designing a game so it works even after official servers get shut down will triple the development costs>source: one anon's ass
>>737310604gnomed
>>737294713Noooo, our pooor corporations, goyiiim
>>737310604Insane behavior.
moving forward we will be destroying a copy of futurama ps2 every saturday until further notice
>>737310491Calling dibs on Porno's game!
>>737296189>>737294506Retard, who cares about these qiqes
>>737296017i want people to play and remember Concord, Lawbreakers, Anthem etc.
>>737292571Miggers became Israel cocksuckers now. So they defend corporations bo matter what.
>>737291780>giving more powers to the stateYou're giving power to the state to fuck over big corporations by stripping them of the power they have over you. Nothing about this initiative is going to hurt you, the consumer, so what the fuck are you angry about?Drop the libertarian manifesto and grow the fuck up.
>>737310604grim
>>737310178>third world touristsYeah, amerikikes.
>>737310631deal with it
>>737311009>became
>>737311060What were those peaks?
>>737310216>Supporting them indefinitely Ross has said probably 100 times he doesn't want, isn't asking for this, and thinks that idea is fucking retarded.TAKE, helldivers 2, they could close LITERALLY TODAY, release Private server stuff so community can run it, and proceed to ritualistically kill themselves, their families, and burn down the entire office. Since the game can now be run by the player, this doesn't actually matter.The whole eternal support is a lie literally only being pushed by skg detractors, and not once do you see this said in any official capacity. Infact most official skg stuff literally says "we aren't asking for endless support because that's retarded and you are retarded for thinking that"
>>737311060Still more than that lying grifter deserves
>>737296017>>737296164>but le deservedIf you pay for it, you still own it, dumb corporated cocksucker.
>>737311095first one is the wow drama
>>737311060>still gets a couple 1000 viewsGrim is the world we live in
>people want to own thingsThis like another hall of cost!
>>737311175viewbotting is a thing
I was born in 1983 and it's amazing to see zoomers experiencing people that were abundant in my youth, the Pirate Software types. Maybe because he himself is an older guy. But time indeed is a flat circle.
>>737294478>companies shouldn't be forced to keep their servers up foreverLiterally no one requested that, Migger shill.
>>737311208Don't you get it? Selling things will KILL studios
>>737311308Again... I never said anyone didI was justairing outmy opinionsin generalGod talking to people on here is like trying to teach the mentally retarded
>>737311315Remember the 6 million studios who died from letting their games be playable after they were done with it.
>>737292841Migger's logic now.That's why they also hate piracy, too.
>>737311249I don't know why you assume right wing people hate skg. Plenty of right wing people I know ABSOLUTELY support skg, while leftists trans autists i know stand with pirate software.
>>737310164Yes, capitalism let that shit happen, because they prefer corporations over you, retard.
>>737306042I too am a fan of physiognomy
>>737291542In this case, it's not people reflexively hating an e-celeb for being an e-celeb, it's industry shills with no actual argument for why they should be allowed to scam people trying to make the person with the free time to piss away at a state level from getting them in trouble with the authorities.Kinda like how DRM is technically completely totally illegal and why as a law bypassing it was shoved through and worded in such a retarded way that anyone who's used any piece of media ever is guilty of a specifically criminal action for up to like 4 years in prison.
Oh and anyone pretending this is a factional (left/right) issue is also a shill.Nobody under any serious political philosophy, much less current popular ones believes that there's a moral right for software developers to scam you by pretending a product is a service.
>>737311798but making it seem factional is such a good way to make people submit to the corporate overlords or turn a blind eye though
>>737296597>Gender: Male*>*
>>737312023I don't even think this is true, as much as shills know skg is impossible to turn people against now. You had transexuals agreeing with KF on this one.So best they can do is spread division as a side mission.
>>737312150it refers to his second puberty https://www.youtube.com/shorts/vtAM3zMuyZ0
>>737291282he should do polymaxxing
>>737312150Careful around the M words, you wouldn't like him when he gets mad.
I'm still cackling at americans and asians getting so butthurt over regulating blatantly scummy behavior from corpos, last thread was a riot
>>737311295We call them narcissistic perverts nowadays.
>>737312425Its not even Americans, its paid shills, and pirate soft fans Basically any American content creator i can think of sees skg and supports it
>>737309078Given concord paid out consumers, they’re one of the few that would be off the hook.Imagine being in an industry where it takes PR damaging catastrophic incompetence before companies are willing to compensate consumers
THE MOVIE status?
It's current year you odious chuds, you should grow up already
>>737307573video game lobbyistssome japanese who cannot fathom game preservation (even if it's made legal)
>>737311060>wow drama into ferret drama in SKG dramaIs this the WR speedrun for turning into a lolcow?
>>737312629I hope all gachafags and every company that produces them go bankrupt and have to live on the streets
May Allah bring infinite calamity upon the enemies of sayyid Ross
>>737312629>p2p server browser not the norm, that shit is doneThat's why the industry should crash and die. Community based servers always beat out shitter queueing for a match that you already lost because the algorithm matched you with players with low win rates in order to addict you to their game. Fuck Marvel rivals, fuck AAA, and fuck Resetera trannies
>>737308524Why? Nintendo barely sells games as a service or games that absolutely require internet to function and even when they do they have made offline versions when they stop being supported, like the animal crossing mobile game.They do sell games only for a limited time like the mario trilogy pack, which is scummy, but it's not like they disable the games after you already bought them, so it wouldn't be covered by this.
>>737305934>a second mold infestation just hit Ubisoft HQ
>>737312759Its been some SERIOUS whiplash, I think because he developed his brand off serious min max bs like shorts, which is fragile, and then of course everything else happened. Been a while since I've seen such whiplash
>>737312629How the fuck are people like this real? Your ancestors struggled so you could be born and grow up free and you still choose to become a slave mentality faggot>m-me? having access to all the files? but who will handle the microtransactions? who will take all of my money???
>>737291236>START KILLING GAMES!>NOW!This would've been Nega-Ross if the mold had completely taken over his body instead of fusing with Ross into one organism
>>737312629very typical of resetroons to be corpococksucking faggots lmao
someone give me a qrd on the mold
>>737312629I fucking hate that literal cattle like this faggot are the majority of consumers, and we are fucked and forced to deal with their low IQ complacency.
>>737313410he had a mold problem in his house once and talked about it
>>737312629>Who's handling the MTX at that point? Who profits?It's funny xer only concern is how to keep paying more money instead of being able to even keep what you paid for. Are gachabrains really that fried?
>>737313410e*ropeans can't afford to heat their homes and they're covered in mold
>>737311095mana gemskg round 2
>>737313410some european houses are older than the USA so they can befall to the elements called bacteria and fungus
>>737313608Skg picking up had his followers fall off a cliff
>>737313679>>737313558Ross is american you know
Thing is what if they keep a game that has "male and female" in the character creator or some other offense to the <modern audience>, but the devs go max woke after the game 'ended'.Will they be able 'update' it?
>>737313783but he lives in poland
>>737313783He lives in yurop
>>737313410Yes
>>737313783He's lived in Pooland for over a decade
>>737291357spbp
>>737313554Even leaving aside the whales who spend tens of thousands of dollars on gacha, the average gachafag is either a dolphin who diverts a notable portion of his income into his addiction OR a moron who slaves at the game every single day like it's a second job believing he is "gaming the system"Yes, their brains are pure mush
>>737313871Still basically American, raised there, basically considers himself American.
>>737313942but what does that have to do with the condition of the european house he lives in?
>>737313815How could you update a game with no dev-tied online component after EoL? They'd have to release a voluntary patch.
>>737291236More like "start making all games subscription only now"
>>737313824>>737313827oh, I thought he was in virginia for some reason
>>737307497who?
>>737291542When you have a hairline like that and your face looks like the annoying orange, it is hard to find a good photo of you
honk if live service is fraud
>>737314121Thanks for the input ma'am
>>737306042>le funny on topic meme image>UUUHHHH UHHHHHHH LEFTISTS, TRANNIES AND LEFTIST TRANNIES WANT US DED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! UUUHHHHHHHHHwats the deal with mutts anyway
>>737291236PEACE THROUGH MOLD
>>737307573Besides industry insiders who only care about money like ea, pirate, autistic resetera types, and maybe "baby's first game dev" types who are putting together game maker slop and fear expectations, no, I've seen literally nobody
>>737313207kek
>>737310604>Decided to become Ashes of Creation's strongest soldier
>>737312629Does this mouthbreathing Resetranny not get that with access to the files you can just put those microtransaction/gacha items as drops and rewards in the actual game, like they should've been all along.Internet communists remain rapacious capitalisms strongest soldiers.
>>737314293WE ARE CHARLIE KIRK WE CARRY THE FLAME
>>737314460but how should they pay for it? it would be extremely unfair that a game I've spent years playing and spent thousands of dollars on things, some available for limited time, and then those things become available for everyone for free
>>737314654kek
>>737291542>i'm starting to realize /v/ is full of teenage girlsThe fact that half of the threads on here are just gossip threads didn't clue you in?
>>737314654>It would be extremely unfair if the scam game I have been playing suddenly stopped being a scam
>>737312629>why would notoriously impatient and short sighted retards not open their wallets because of long term concerns, even as they already cheerfully flush their money down the shitterYou could tell gachafags to their face that everything they “buy” will be worthless in less than a month and they wouldn’t care in the slightest. They’re fucking morons, and if they weren’t then wouldn’t be playing gacha games
>>737291282I bet he runs at 240 fps
>>737297042>What in the name of Scienceis that one real
>>737312629Lots of gacha games have gotten fan made private servers after their shut down. Where is this narrative that shit is just impossible for modern games coming from? At the end of day a game is basically code and assets. You already have the assets and you can modify the code so the game connects to a private server or even run a server in the same local machine.How the fuck do people think these games are tested before official releases?
>>737314654Holy fucking shit do you think gacha devs are starving and living out of a cardboard box or something?!
>>737314654>it would be extremely unfairgood.
I don't support SKG because I don't trust the government/the EU to provide a proper solution for it. It will inevitably lead to more censorship and government overreach and you're shortsighted if you think otherwise. >>737307392>>737307573Asmongoldstein is a Zionist government-asset. It's not a good look if he supports your movement.
>>737315090So what's your solution to the problem?
>>737315090No one is falling for your concern trolling, kike shill. Go bomb a hospital.
>>737314654>it would be extremely unfair4U
>>737315090Yeah, you trust corporations to not make gaas shit even worse without any regulations. Smartest chuddie.
>>737311049>stripping them of the power you can strip companies of power by simple not buying their product >so what the fuck are you angry aboutthis impacts all developers, not just Ubisoft
>>737315090>nooo don't complain and try to improve things! Stay down please!
I missed playing Anthem because I was playing something else. I want to play Anthem not watch someone playing it for me. I'm not a cuck.
>>737315137beban informed customer and don't buy products from companies you don't trust? You can't guarantee lifetime service on anything you buy
>>737310568>I may be one of only 5 people who plays itsir this is /v/
>>737315321>you can strip companies of power by simple not buying their product Not if others buy the product.>this impacts all developers, not just UbisoftAnd it affects almost none but the biggest ones because most developers don't do GaaS in the first place.
>>737315090>we've tried nothing and the problem is still there>What, you want to try doing something? Can't have that!I don't play modern multiplayer slop so I don't actually care much, but you are a faggot
>>737315090>anti-zionist is a corporate shillWhat an upsidedown world we've come to live in
>>737315384you can complain by not paying for shitty products like The Crew. Enacting laws that impact every developer is a retarded solution
>>737315413Cool, I don't buy them, you don't buy them, but people still do buy them, so GaaS are still being made and games are still getting shittier.So no, "don't buy" is not a solution.So again, what's your solution to the problem?
>>737311079NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO TAKE EVERYTHING I JUST WANT OT BE HAPPY.
>>737309078>Post yfw somehow Concord has returned
>>737315504You mean like laws against programs that brick your computer, steal your data, have cp, ect??
>>737315413>being informed = see 10 years into future that a studio which made a game you like and want to buy will go bankrupt and IP gets bought by ubisoft which then turns off the auth server because they want to sell a remaster instead?
>>737312629Nigger what profits? A gacha game would allow an offline version at EoS there are no fucking profits...>it's the current year>that shit is doneNot an argument.
>>737315447>Not if others buy the product.then who cares? they voluntarily chose to spend money to support the product. >most developers don't do GaaS in the first placeSKG targets most online-only games, not just GaaS
>>737315090The EU has made decisions that both negatively and positively impact the consumer, and recently proved that they are willing to strike down invasive overreach when every other country in the world started aggressively looking to implement verification bullshit.To contrast, the game industry has literally never made a pro consumer choice that wasn’t either forced by a government or a secondary benefit for something they benefitted from more.If you want to talk about slippery slopes, why the fuck would you side with the slope that has been downhill for the past decade and shows no sign of evening out? The EU might fuck over normal people. The game industry will. You’d have to be naive, retarded or shilling to claim otherwise.
>>737315558>but people still do buy themnobody is forcing them to buy. They buy because they get value from the product. Who are you to judge their purchasing decision?>So again, what's your solution to the problem?don't buy the product. If the business doesn't provide value, then there won't be sales. No sales = no business.
>>737306042Kirk was killed by right wing mossad crypto nazis
>>737315662you think those laws prevent people from still doing those things?
>>737315826>Who cares if people buy slaves they chose to spend money on that product >Who cares if people buy cp>Who cares if people buy human flesh >Who cares about anything, money is the highest morality, that's why I shill against skg, ALL HAIL UBISOFT
>>737316035imagine comparing slave ownership to buying Ubislop
>>737316020>Seriously thinking cp consumption wouldn't skyrocket if legal
>>737316090Good point. At least we OWNED slaves after buying them
>>737315686It's always the same shit with those faggots>complain about any solution given>when pressed for their own solution, always shit out "just don't buy" or "just let the market do its thing" as if this wasn't what is already happening and it's clearly not working>when pointing out neither is a solution, immediately start moving goalpostDoomposters are genuinely retarded
>>737316035It's true that there's nothing above money.
>YOU WILL OWN YOUR GAMES AND YOU WILL LIKE IT
>>737316246I will! Thank you, father!
>>737291236You can't just release server data to the public because that would include Face and ID scans from safety checks, said safety checks that also wouldnt be safe to be letting random strangers in charge of handling
>>737316336Go forth, and zap to the extreme!
>>737316379Why is any of that required for people to host private servers of a game that was shut down?
>>737316379>Oh no, how can I possibly just remove a folder of personal information Click. Delete. Turn off request for personal information. Done.
>>737291236>Faggots told him to go do something about it>Actually doing something about itI don't understand how you can call yourself a gamer and hate this guy unless you're a corporate slaveHe's trying to make it so that you can keep your shit after you buy it
>>737295152he certainly won the title of lolcow
>>737316537There's 3 types people attacking SKG on /v/Doomposters who are only here to complain but never provide a solution.Amerimutts who think themselves future CEOs and think regulation against corporations fucking them in the ass is bad for them.And probably some Ubisoft poos trying to damage control.
>>737316537notice how /v/ is flinging some literally who blizzard dev nobody fucking knows at him as his nemesis.these threads are just full of contrarians desperate for attention trying to smear mold freeman's image for no reason at best, money sink from crazy desperate corpos at worst.
>>737316669I wouldn't quite call Jason a literally who, people know who he is, they just hate him
>>737316537But I want companies to move forward, make new games, remaster their old gems. Not hold them hostage and keep supporting a game people are tired of. I want to support them, if it means buying a game again then so be it. Why is this so hard, to understand?
>>737297042>missing the "insane behavior" quoteinsane behavior, dude
>>737315950>>737315686>>737315090he's still a jump sharker, skg is good
>>737305734>AYOcancerous newnigger
>>737315090>I don't support SKG because I don't trust the government/the EU Good thing this is movement started by the EU citizens to pass laws they want and need. And not something the government decided it's good. It's scary that people see proper democracy being implemented for once but they think it's authoritarian.
>>737291282Rupee head
>>737317028The government can still fuck up during the implementation phase. Remember, the government is responsible for industry consultations and drafting the final wording of the law.Still, it's better than doing nothing. I don't regret 2014, despite what it ultimately led to.
>>737316537He's a weirdo pushing impossible to implement garbage that sounds goodVery modern society
>>737317210And the police could technically come and shoot your dog if you call them because crackhead is jerking off in public. What is your point?
>>737317389Impossible to implement? Don't BASICALLY all valve games already have this implemented???
>>737317392Doing something > doing nothing
>>737317028I never said the intent was bad, but I can see it being twisted into totalitarian bullshit. The EU is a nanny state cuckold order hellbent on replacing its own citizens with Muslims, Jeets and Africans, so why would you trust them to handle this in the right way?>>737315948>and recently proved that they are willing to strike down invasive overreach when every other country in the world started aggressively looking to implement verification bullshit.Lmao what? The exact opposite, EU shill: https://commission.europa.eu/news-and-media/news/european-age-verification-app-keep-children-safe-online-2026-04-15_en
>>737317425No lol
>stop killing games, they are an art-form and should live forever and ever>experiences people have with these games are timeless!.>Concord shuts down*silence*>Highguard shuts down*silence*>Marathon is about to be shut down*silence*Why are those people like this? Seriously.some kind of mental retardation or dark magic?
>Literally every game over 20 years ago figured this one out but NOW it's just IMPOSSIBLE to implement chud
>>737312629This has to be one of the most pathetic things I've ever read.
>>737317506I guess me running halflife 1 server's has been a hallucination all this time >>737317564Very few EVER wanted those. Million's wanted the crew. Big difference
>>737317564>Concord shuts down>*silence*https://thegamepost.com/sony-concord-playable-again-custom-servers/
>>737315504The publishers fucked me. I demand my politicians stop publishers from doing so, and they will because they want to be re-elected. The government exists to empower me, a powerless pleb facing a billion dollar company.
>>737317591Remember the 6 billion developers who died because their game was still playable after they dropped it.
>>737317564It's not just about the consumers, it's also about the devs who might want to show their games to their grandchildren in 50 years. Also, I genuinely want to play (modded) Concord, if only because I find the idea of an all-Bazz /v/ lobby hilarious.
>>737317564No one is going to mourn the loss of a shitty game, but people go back to play shitty games all the time.
>>737317701Try doing TF1 now
>>737314943I don’t give a shit about the devs, I spent over 800 dollars in Genshin to get Furina when she came out. Why the fuck would any other retard be allowed to play her for free when the servers shut down? Fuck you.
>>737317564I'd have preferred if those sorts of games were kept alive, unironically. For the memes, and because they'd have siphoned ridiculous amounts of cash away from the faggot publishers, which would have been a net positive for the industry.Just like how marathon is doing exactly that>>737317739Also this. There's fun to be had with even shit meme games. Maybe I'd have tried Concord at some point. Now I can't even do that.
TGD
>>737292942Even if you don't, it's piss easy to get past Steam's DRM and play games without using the Steam client. Valve is far from the worst offender to the SKG initialitve
>>737317564We need an Artifact poster for every single game
>>737316832the CURRENT paradigm is that games are held hostage by their owners, if the market doesn't supply enough money at regular intervals the game dies foreverpreserving games is little more than modifying the legal parameters of middleware licensing and forcing companies to produce binaries of games that apparently are no longer profitable enough for them to bother selling them or providing the associated online serviceall fearmongering about SKG is a corporate extinction burst regarding forthcoming pro-consumer EU regulation
Can you name a single game that's been "killed" in the last 30 years you'd actually want to play?
>>737312654Those Japs are Twitter faggots that are virtue signalling so that they can get their next job at Nintendo or some other gaming company. The average Japanese person doesn't care or wouldn't mind actually being able to own their games.
>>737318020fantasy earth zerochromehoundsconcord
OPEN SOURCE YOUR ENTIRE BACK-END SERVER TOOLKIT.NOW.OR ELSE.
>>7373180743 peices of garbage kek
>>737317843It still runs today with community servers. Are you fucking retarded or just a shil>>737317882Bro this is OBJECTIVELY worse than feeling bad for devs>I cut my penis off for an ice cream cone>Someone is giving ice cream away for 2 dollars EACH?! UNACCEPTABLE, YOU MUST HAVE YOUR COCKS CUT OFF TOO, THIS IS UNFAIR TO MEkill yourself.
>>737315321>you can strip companies of power by simple not buying their productHoly shit, you're 12.
>>737296470>Don't like it? Don't buy it.Nah I think I'll just vote with my words instead of my wallet and force corporations into compliance by making it illegal for them to take my right to play videogames away. Your way of "let corpos do whatever they want without oversight" is retarded and only screws over the little guy.Don't like it? Cry about it.
Sony screwed over the Concord fanbase by cancelling Concord without even allowing users to experience the DLCs like they said they would pre-release and does not deserve your financial support for these gross consumer-unfriendly practices.
>>737318316They're just not gonna sell in EU lol
>>737318234No, just disingenuous.They know that one whale can outvote dozens, if not hundreds, of consumers, making the term vote with your wallet completely worthless. They just hope that you don’t.
>>737318125>consumer rights are only good if it preserves art i personally want to consumei want to preserve the games you want to play tooart and culture exists to be shared and experienced
>>737318352Lol no they won't. They'd be even MORE retarded to stop selling in America.
>>737318352Good.
>>737318120Ermm this but unironically?Everything should go open source after 5 years, mandated by law.
>>737291542Crazy how their immediate reaction to this was to prove you completely correct.
>>737318425>art & culture >concord Read a book nigger
>>737318484What book do you recommend
>>737318352Industries have caved dozens of times in front of EU legislation and they will do so again. You are welcome.
>>737318484Art and culture deserve to be preserved, even bad art. Remember, Shakespeare was considered low entertainment for the plebs, and Melville a bad adventure writer. Incidentally, we lost both Shakespeare plays (Love's Labour's Won, and I think a Don Quixote one) and a Melville novel (Isle of the Cross)>>737318581120 Days of Sodom
>>737291236TOTAL GAYMES DEATH
in his hearing a multiple times mentioned publishers who purposely and maliciously release games as scams only to intentionally rugpull them screwing over buyers. what are some examples of this happening?
>>737318120this but unironicallythe entire tech industry is built by cribbing from open source since the very beginningif open source exposes bugs, fix themif muh middleware licenses prevent it, regulate licensing to allow itif your IP isn't worth selling, prove it and give it away so someone who likes it can keep it alive
>>737318591EU isn't relevant in 2026
>>737318606>Don Quixote onehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_History_of_Cardenio
>>737318352>They're just not gonna sell in EU lolI fucking hope they do that, so that their investors brutally rape them on national television and a few am radio stations for losing them a ton of money out of spite.
>>737318484>i want to preserve the books you read even if i hate them>you want to burn the books i read because you hate thema true degenerate
>>737318352Seriously thinking they will abandon a Multi billion dollar market place over this is like thinking an 8 year old threatening to hold his breath til he dies is a serious threat.
>>737318736phone charging cables.
>>737296017you're fucking retarded, every console generation there are a ton of games that get lost with people playing them until the last day. people are still playing fan hosted games that came out like 20-25 years ago. and when it happens its due to the effort of a handful of really dedicated people doing it to the benefit of hundreds or thousands of others. why do you think so many gen Z youtubers are making video essays about old games now? because even they are realizing how much better past games were on average.
>>737300374I think Ross said he doesn't want to confuse the boomer politicians with the games that aren't completely dead but only half-dead, it was in some video, though I don't remember which. His viewpoint is, there is no legal distinction between singleplayer and multiplayer, so as long as we get one, we should get the other.
>>737318352>just obliterate a massive chunk of your revenue bro, the shareholders will perfectly understand it was either that or spend a trivial amount of effort complying
>>737318860and if we don't, that's what amendments are for
>>737318839europoors can't buy anything their too poor LOL
>>737318840Yeah man having USB 3 and no included chargers is based>eu fags think this unironically
>>737318352>NOOOOOOOO NOT LE HECKIN COMMUNISM MY HECKIN VIDEOGAMES ARE PURE CAPITALISM YOU CAN'T LET PEOPLE PLAY FOR FREE IT'S LITERAL GENOCIDE MY HECKIN WAVES OF GRAIN AND PURPLE MOUNTAINS THEY'RE ALL TURNING RED AAAAAAAAA MY HECKIN SWEET CHAINSAW IS TURNING INTO A HAMMER AND MY FREAKING COOL F-150 IS BECOMING A SICKLE AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE NOOOOO MY EPIC FISHING HAT IS TURNING INTO A USHANKA AAAAAAAAAAARGH MY COUNTRY IS RUINED FOREVER WHY THE FREAKING FLIP DIDN'T YOU JUST LET THE SWEET PRECIOUS CORPOS DO WHATEVER THEY WANT WITHOUT REGULATIONS THEY'RE FREAKING INNOCENT THEY ONLY WANT WHAT'S BEST FOR YOU NOOOOOOOOOOOOKO CURSE YOU COMMIES MY COUNTRY IS CHANGED FOREVERRRRRRRRR
Maybe sometime in the future, when we are able to preserve games indefinitely we will have something similar to what /co/ does with Storytime of Pain threads where we purposefully play bad games again as board tradition to generate more OC content.
>>737318903You mis-spelled Indian.
>>737318938>corporations are forced to standardise connectors>corporations pull a hissyfit and stop including chargers in the box>this is not the fault of corporations
>>737319043Yeah corporations are smarter than you and politicians
>>737319021a future unironically worth fighting for
>>737318606No such thing as bad art, you're talking about kitsch.
>>737296017It does deserve to be forgotten, sureBut regardless of what you think of the game, the people that paid for that game also deserve to be able to keep playing the same game they paid actual money for, wether it is actual admiration, ignorance or to clown on it
>>737296470sure, just make it clear that you are not selling a game but a service instead, and let me know exactly how long the contract lasts, like every other service
>>737317425What valve games? lmao
>>737319128No games deserve to be forgotten because then you're just asking their developers to switch the narrative and try again.As an example, Concord 2 is gonna be a lot more successful than Concord 1 if nobody remember why Concord 1 was shit, and developers will be more than happy to tell you that gamers were too entitled back then and the game was actually fine.
>>737305170Kek'd
>>737319021You won't even be allowed to post without ID verification
>>737318352another fucking retard. how many years have these companies been making games targeting as many audiences as possible around the world? same thing with film. this is good either way. there are two options.a. they lock in and make games again(primarily) just for the country they made it in (which wont happen) and any other country is an afterthought and a bonusb. they adapt and conform to appease shareholders so they can sell it in EU countries.we are in late stage capitalism which is why companies are making so many retarded choices, because in order to beat last quarters profits they need to make as much money as possible no matter how they do it. which includes making shit tier lazy products with the minimum amount of investment and utilizing the most greedy practices possible, for short term profit even if it means long term loss because by then the CEO will have jumped ship and it wont be their problem. its never been this bad at this level before so you are fucking brain damaged if you think these massive countries will just say "oh we just wont sell our product in the EU then."
>>737315950In other words, you have no actual solution
>>737319217Halflife. Counter strike. Tf2. All allow you to do what you want and run private servers.
I would play Concord on the private /v/ server.
>>737298385I like how they mentioned they're aware of lootbox degeneracyI cant wait for the day gachaniggers get the rope
>>737319387It's gonna get modded with nude mods.
>>737319381Can't believe Valve died after making those games. If only they could have prevented people from playing them, the company would still be with us today.
>>737319387Bazz only.
>>737319427Oh. Oh God, OH NO
>>737319464My bazz will be unstoppable.
>>737319387Does it allow stacking? Everyone would just play Bazz except for the occasional fag playing the other female characters that look passable.
>>737319387sameroka and daw my beloved
>>737319534I will play the trashcan nigga.
>>737319534You underestimate DAW. he will eat the competition.
>>737319478The micspam...I can already hear it
>>737319534>Everyone would just play Bazz except for the occasional fag playing the trashcan.ftfy
>>737319637https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvZSCGWEVEE
Take a look at thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zef48--oSnU
>>737319409I don't even drink, but if they kill gacha for good, I'm buying the fanciest bottle in my local supermarket and down it to celebrate.
>>737319724that lowkey looks fun as helland I like bootleg crash from quake 3's design, fapped to her and the idle animation webm of itz at some point
>>737318020I just want slopmakers to suffer
>>737319381games from 20 years ago, jeez
>>737318352>here are the regions we sell to, Mr. CEO:>china, japan and rarely some countries in SEA>china is a big market but only buys a small portion of our games, japan is pretty much the same but they're smaller>the US and Canada>one of our biggest markets since we're a US company>australia and new zealand>small but english-speaking with a decent amount of cash to spend, we sell there consistently>every country in the EU>a market of nearly a billion that mostly speak english and have tons of disposable income, they consist of nearly as many sales as the US, sometimes exceeding them>we propose that you stop selling to the EU in order to potentially make a bit more money on the other regions in the meanti->what do you mean I'm fired
>>737318456This, but everything that has no support should become open source after a grace period of 3 months. That way people can iterate on it and make new better version that they can monetize if they so choose.>don't want to lose it>use it
>>737320135i've been trying to tell you fuckers for over a year that concord is goodif SKG leads to its revival i will die happy
>>737318020do you just not play videogames or something? where have you fucking been? is he baiting or a secondary? call it.
>>737320135>that lowkey looks fun as hellWhy didn't you save the game?
>>737319409>>737319821You wish, poorfags. Any law passed won't be retroactive and would only ensure that devs/publishers have to EoS the game in a playable state, not that they can't make live service games at all. Continue seething, illiterate fuckwits.
>>737320231It all just boils down again to copyright abuseAll these syndromes just sprawl from this diseaseEven if you somehow fix this one problem for good, something else just as vile will just pop out to eat it's market share
>>737320378No campaign or at least bot matches so it didn't interest me
>>737317389>impossible to implementYou stupid fucking retard.
>>737312629Why do these people always conveniently ignore that this shit won't be retroactive? Existing games won't have to be redesigned to function in a way they weren't designed to. It would only apply to new games going forward that could take the requirements into account from the beginning. It'll be a solid decade before we see any fruit from this.
Good job on killing anonymity on the internet SKG retards.
>>737320495SKG did this.
>>737320495But these things are in no way connected? Retard
>>737320135there are a lot of other similar games out there you can play or had the chance to play where you didnt look like a retard and sound like one during every match. it doesnt matter if the game has fun moments here and there if everything you see and hear is terrible unless youre a masochist or some kind of freak.
>>737320495Yes, SKG, Trump, Hitler, Woke and 'ur mom did this..
>>737320495I can't believe SKG fucked my wife that I don't have.
>>737320565Stop ruining good baiting with obvius facts everybody knows.
>>737320495meds
>>737320636SKG is a future policy so it will fuck your future wife that you will now never have.
>>737320565>But these things are in no way connectedDon't fall for their jewish tricks.
>>737320738>IDDoesn't that go against GDPR?
>>737320381Most sane gachanigger>They cant make new laws to regulate lootbox kikery because this one other tangentially related hearing has nothing to do with gacha. And if they do they have no right to touch gacha because they've already been sacrificing children so you cant stop them from sacrificing children for the CCP.>Now excuse me, I'm behind my dailies schedule, and I have boars to fellate so I can get to gamble for feet pics in several chinese treadmills at once
>>737320738>to comply with EU regulationMay we see it?
>>737291780Providing always online garbage they can turn off at any time while lying to people by advertising they are selling a game is a scam and that's not ethical even from a libertarian POV
>>737320879>>Now excuse me, I'm behind my dailies schedule, and I have boars to fellate so I can get to gamble for feet pics in several chinese treadmills at onceThis but unironically
>>737291542>i'm starting to realize /v/ is full of teenage girls who don't actually hold opinions but instead parse group consensus about who they're supposed to like or hate based on superficial nonsenseteenage girls and bots
>>737291236No
>>737320910>We are required by regulations including the UK's Online Safety Act, the Irish Online Safety Code, the European Union Digital Services Act and Australia's Online Safety Act, to estimate or verify whether you are over or under a certain age, for example, 18 for access to certain types of content.
>>737320738>britcucks and yuropoors didn't even oppose thisThis is honestly embarrassing and show how much goycattle europeans are that they literally bent over and went along with this shit without even rioting or calling to an amendment or bill of rights for online anonymity just because politicians said its about muh children. Americans are the only ones who actually care about privacy and pushing to reverse this shit.
>>737320738What country?
>>737321084UK and EU.
>>737321018So, no, we can't actually see it for ourselves.Of those only the UK one may be relevant.
>>737321114>UKNot the EU>EUThe EU is not a country.
>>737321194You think you're white?
>Keep Killing Gaymers want games dead>they are against stop killing games because it will kill gamesWhy don't they just join forces?>>737320821That's Xer trying to farm EU IDs to sell to Ameripoors on its own initiative. Frankly disgusting as that could mean we get more brown rapefugees.
>>737320495It's not even for SKG if you don't verify you lose access to messages and voice chat in the UK.
>>737291236Wish these faggots would jesusmax mentally/spiritually too.
>>737321248You think the EU is a country?
>>737320495This just in: SKG did 9/11.
>>737321248>think the EU is a country>instantly dodge the question with racebaitingAmerimutt education
>>737321025Thank goodness they bent over to the request to make it fully open source so it got hacked instantly and anyone who cares about their privacy can at least keep theirs.
>>737294692I really wish people would stop finding people who just spout inane shit about video games or drugs or whatever shit they find interesting and then saying>Dude, I wish this guy would talk more about politics.I never watch this guy, but I have watched a few other youtubers I used to watch slowly get pushed by fans to do this and they end up becoming just a retarded gamer-rambles-about-politics content creator instead of doing actual let's plays anymore. Both right and left wing versions, but both clearly have little clue what they're talking about. The appeal seems to be that they are just "some guy" and therefore more trustworthy or something, which is retarded if you take even 5 minutes to stop and think it through.
>>737321517I wish this guy would talk more about poolitics.
>>737305934Mashallah. We will not be oppressed.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhsFGJs8a3A
>>737321018>the European Union Digital Services ActLooks like we can start filing reports about misrepresenting end-user rights and obligations under law, then.DSA Article 28.1 requires online platforms to put in reasonable effort to protect minors against harmful content. A process which may require age estimation or verification. However, DSA Article 28.3 explicitly states there shall be no legal obligation to perform age verification where doing so requires end-users to send more personal data to the platform than it (officially...) already has access to.Your face as well as your government ID are classified as a special protected class of personal data in the GDPR.That data may not be processed by default. Then some exclusions apply. The only relevant ones here are legal obligation, which we've just established doesn't exist, and informed consent - which we just established doesn't apply because the platform is misinforming users about their actual legal obligations and thus any consent would be based on wrong information and thus falsely obtained.In short, they're in violation of the GDPR, as well as in violation of legislation governing consumer service contracts - where they are not legally allowed to misinform consumers about their legal rights and obligations under law -
>>737315413>beban informed customerThat's one of the options SKG offers, making changes that are informative rather than radical>don't buy products from companies you don't trust?Capcom is currently implementing Denuvo in its games, which is already proving to be a negative and unnecessary measure for those who buy their games; yet people continue to buy them because there is no other way to obtain them legitimately. And nothing will change if, as a consumer, they lose my trust, if the vast majority continues to buy their games, the company won’t care what I think or do.That’s the problem: they need to make a fundamental change. The "vote with your wallet” approach doesn’t work very well when it comes to video games from big companies. It’s also not right that I have to ban all video game companies that do something wrong from my list of interests and end up with nothing to play, since that won’t change anything, but something like SKG could change things in the future if it forces companies to change>You can't guarantee lifetime service on anything you buyThat’s obvious, but try telling companies to put that in before you buy a game, to them, it’s an expiration date that would cut into their sales, another point SKG wants to achieve
>>737307573I'm not 100% sure but I recall that Chet Faliszek dude was highly against it from the very start. But he's long been a terminally online schizo. Many other small detractors too.
>>737321743>GLA themeVIDEO GAMES FOR EVERYONE!
>>737296597What wiki?
>>737321018This dystopian shit should have never been allowed to be exist in the first place and now its pushed every and normalized because millions of cattlebrained retards go along with it.
>>737321743Bismillah
>>737296017Genshin Impact is no longer available on PS4, and Apex Legends is no longer available on Switch 1No one is saying the same thing couldn't happen to PS5 and Switch 2 in another 20 or 30 years
>>737320297>>737320378I'M SORRYYYYYYYYYmaybe skg will let us get concord back retroactively
>>737321938Ross and skg have said simply informing isn't enough, and they already say this anyway
>>737322489Eventually Sony will stop caring about it and the fan resurrection will be allowed to stay up.
>>737322645To be fair even if we get it back it's still prone to dying on its own due to loss of interest if nobody implements bot matchesI looked into Hawken recently cause last time I played it was a decade ago and got a sudden urge to play it againit got a revival that's getting updates even this year but there were like 6 niggas playing last weekend at most and the only thing I could do was the 3 tutorial maps and just roaming around the empty mp mapsNobody believes me but bots are the key to keeping games alive
>>737322961That's fine and not the issue. Take halflife. Nobody cares if servers are dead, but you CAN boot up halflife and a server with a friend if you FEEL like it.That's the big thing, you CAN do it.
>>737314654Except it's not unfair because you made the choice to shut the game down and to not sell it anymore anyways, so there's no "lost sales".
>>737317564Well if I could have my way, I wouldn't only wish for ALL games -without exception- to be preserved but every single public version for all of them too.That way people can play a specific version of the game that they remember how it was, like how people like the WoW expansions differently or how polarizing the Jedi and combat updates were for StarWars Galaxies.But that's just me. Such an archive would require utopian levels of storage capacities for the sole sake of entertainment.
>>737323216Yeah. I look at server hosting as half the solution, but you need players or player-like entities to populate it, which is the other half nobody seems to bring up.
>>737323279but it's unfair to me, I had to pay for them so others should too or I should be refunded fully
>>737310604gooning
>>737323894He's fucking a ferret live
>>737323330Steam is hosting every single version of every game they have, even the ones that have never been public, right now. We just need to make sure Steam becomes open when it dies in 500 years. Non-Steam games are fucked though.
>>737323330>Such an archive would require utopian levels of storage capacities for the sole sake of entertainment.You could cut it down a lot by just having the base or final version of the game be full size, and the rest of the versions would just be "patchers" that add/remove data to make it the desired version.
>>737324006He actually solved all the puzzlers super quick you should've seen it
>>737323330>Such an archive would require utopian levels of storage capacities for the sole sake of entertainment.Not really, Youtube alone probably takes up more space than that in 10 hour long livestream vods with 2 views
>>737323484Server hosting is the whole solution. Getting people together is part of the server setup process essentially. I agree that bots are great but nobody's going to force devs to make bots for the appropriate games because that actually would require a non-trivial amount of work, especially as multiplayer games grow more complicated.
