what are you gaming on fellas
I got two of those AOC MicroLED monitors. They're all right, especially since both were free.
>>737291339IPS pulsar for gamingOLED for movies and TV
>>737291339oled master race
Once you go OLED you can never look at another IPS ever again without wanting to puke.
>>737291339Acer predator x27u(OLED), I purchased it for ~$400 during last december, it hasn't burned in yet which is surprising.
>>737291661I agree, most IPS monitors have horrendous backlight bleed.
>>737291593i get it for competitive games, but what about story driven stuff
>>737291339IPStried ultra wide curved VA and it was the first and only time playing vidya made me feel sick, shit was so terrible, and I didn't even mention the smearing. I switched to flat ultra wide IPS and it's leagues better, but I miss the curvature as it really makes the difference when you can't move your monitor back enough to see it's entirety without moving your head around. Got another 27" IPS for work/browsing and if either one of those displays die I'm buying an ultra wide curved oled as they shouldn't be as expensive as they were a few years back
I don't know what VA is so I won't discuss itIPS vs OLED is a massive difference which isn't to say IPS is bad but the difference between my OLED phone at 1080p and my 4K IPS television is huge. I honestly recommend getting an OLED tv/laptop assuming you're generally gaming in a dark room. The colours look so much better it's abused. IPS isn't bad I was impressed with graphics on old 480i PS2 back in the day but OLED is absolutely a huge leap and makes any game look better
You aren't truly gaming unless you are on CRT.
>>737291881OLED also offers perfect blacks and better motion clarity, it's such a massive upgrade it's insane. i love mine
i tried an IPS after using a TN(lol) for almost a decade and i genuinely was so disappointed. everything felt like it was glowing, so shitended up with a VA panel and so far it just seems lik TN+once OLEDs improve(or become cheaper jfc) imma just buy it.
>>737291998oled gets cheaper year by year so you probably won't have to wait long
>>737292041>waitfagging in the modern electronics market
>>737291731>not playing TLOU at 144hz like Druckmann intended
>>737291951Yea I'll absolutely buy an OLED tv soon. I don't think I'd ever seen an OLED until my phone I bought last year but the difference is crazy. Makes everything pop. The difference in visual quality difference is comparable to the difference in load times between HDD and SSD. I probably sound like a massive shill but seriously I can't wait
I wanted a TN panel with a high refresh rate but they didn't have any :(
I use this monitor for my PS4, PS5, NSW, NSW2. OLED and HDR are a meme
>>737292118wdym? newer oleds are all 240hz
>>737291943The crt motion quality is wasted by low refresh ratesAnd crt filters exist already if you give a shit
>>737292165>1080p on a 27"
>>737292167yeah whatever it's all about that pulsar nowadays
>>737292148there should be plenty 24" 1080p TN with 300 to 500 Hz for "eports"
>>737292219only thing it offers is better motion clarity, which is fantastic for competitive games
>>737292234Ya but i was impulse buying a new set up at the time and they didn't have one at the store i ordered from.I regret buying a new PC though as CS2 causes much more misery then enjoyment.
>>737292204Yeah it's not native but I love 1080p and will never go higher
I am VA enjoyer, since I play at 60 Hz, but I'm considering something new.For me, OLED is not good, since I'm a PC user. While IPS has bad contrast and backlight bleed lottery.Right now I'm on 43 inch QLED (VA) 2021-22 TV, since decent VA monitors were very expensive, regular VA monitors were too slow, while TVs were actually good enough.Anything I should consider?People recommend TCL mini LED a lot, but from what I see, 50 inch display has like 340 dimming zones (which doesn't like a lot) and 55 inch has over 700, but I'm afraid that it might be too big.I'd be fine with bigger monitor (32 inch?), but 4K Odyssey VA is only curved meme.
>>737292165For that price you could have bought a 4k mini ledEnjoy your Sony tax
>>737292165I find it funny Elden Ring is advertised here even though you need to mod it to play above 60hz
>>737291339For me it's picrel
>>737291339IPS
How does /v/ feel about ultrawide monitors?
>>737292861great concept fucked by lazy developers
>>737291339I have an OLED monitor, I kind of wonder how mini-LED HDR looks so I have fomo about that.
>>737294573Take your monitor outside and try to use it in sunlight That's the miniled HDR use case, better at nonsensical viewing conditions where you can't afford a curtain
>>737294893You say that but the ABL on QD-OLED monitors sucks hard.
>>737291339>vagames>ipse-sport>oledmedia production
>>737291339I love IPS and I will never get an OLED for my PC.I would rather pay more for better IPS.
>>737291661>oled>have 1 thing active for more than 3 hours>uh-oh burn in!you will notice the big flaw once you decided to reorganize your task-bar shortcuts.
>>737291661I have an IPS with black desktop and it look like the OLED, something is wrong on your side
if i mostly play darker singleplayer games and I'm looking for max 1080p with high framerate, is a 24" VA pannel better than an IPS?
>>737291943>>737292710crt are bad for modern gaming due to a lack of precision, enjoy playing crysis, pubg or rust and see literally nothing in a dense jungle
>>737291943>60hz
crt and oled for me
>>737292165why are you paying extra for HDR on a IPS monitor?
>>737292861I have the 21:9 one. I like it. Most games PC games will support it just fine as will most westoid multiplats. Jap console games often don't, sometimes you can force it, but dumb yellow monkeys hardcode the UI placement and it will get fucked up. I knew this going in and play those kinds of games from the couch on the TV but you needed to consider it
>>737295467>Wasting space on a taskbar
>>737294573why would you have fomo? oled is objectively better when it comes to colors
>>737295849You're not one of the brainlets that fell for the marketing memes right?
>>737291339i think an ips idk it doesnt matter past being a high refresh rate
>>737295849Yeah, problem?
>>737296009So have you ever seen a higher refresh or is it sour grapes
MOOT IS OLED
>>737291496i have one too and it's a great monitor but absolutely useless in HDR because you can't change the settings at all when using HDR, which would be fine if the presets they provided were usable, but every single one is horribly bad and i'm not exaggerating. the displayHDR preset is washed out and desaturated as fuck, may as well be a monochrome filter. and the other 3 modes they provide have nice colours but are extremely over-sharpened and when i say extremely i mean like turning up the sharpening on your monitor to 100. so i use it exclusively in SDR now. good monitor but the reason you'd buy it for is basically useless.
>>737291339got 'new' second-hand fancy TN last week. lmao
>>737291339T/N still. IPS is dogshit and VA still has pretty bad motion clarity and response times, the marketing lies.I'd really want to get an OLED but the burn-in scares me off. Here's to anther 10 years without a new display technology that fixes everything. We need better response times, arbitrary resolutions and the option to do motion blur reduction like a CRT instead of full screen strobing.
>>737291339I love my miniled
>>737296001that's simply false. miniLED can provide higher colour gamut and colour volume because the colours can get much brighter
>>737291943>60hz display vs 240hz display photo taken at 1/60 exposureNo shit there's blurring Sherlock
>>737295975Yes, Im not a personality void who thinks their fucking monocolor black desktop with nothing on it is "so cool and mature".
>>737296221what miniled you got
>>737296009I'm not promoting something retarded like 360hz so you can break your fingers playing ivanclick, but 144hz, 1440p is the best way to do it.
>>737295778>see literally nothing in a dense junglesound like playing any newer unreal game tbqh
>>737295872You don'tVesa HDR is listed on every monitor nowadays but 400 is like the bare minimum and it's not even considered hdr
>>737296286Who the fuck is sitting on their desktop?You do realise that the taskbar does nothing but waste space 99.9% of the time and you can bring it up in a fraction of a second with a downward mouse swipe right?
>what are you gaming on240hz 2K OLED
>>737296313The Xiaomi one.
>>737296369kinda lolbut even a game like Battlefield 3 (2011) would be unplayable in CRT online
>>737291339OLED.Perfect blacksHandles contrast betterLess bloom on high contrastMotion clarity is far betterI don't even have a nice OLED. I have an Alienware 280hz 1440p OLED.
>>737296258true for WOLED, but that's only for very bright scenes and WOLED colors are better otherwise. QD-OLED beats it in every way anyways
>>737296392Actual 2K or the retarded "2K" otherwise correctly known as 1440p or QHD?
>>737296258what kinds retard games in bright rooms anyways. the only way mini leds are better is in a situation you're simply not in
>>737296401Xiami G Pro 27i?
>>737296858QD-OLED monitors suck at the moment and WOLED is still a better all round purchase so you don't have the headache of having to navigate two modes
>>737296858>QD-OLED beats it in every way anywaysI think it's beyond time to end this nonsense. They both have pros and cons. QDOLED is not better in "every way".
>>737296983>QD-OLED monitors suck at the moment any issue with it is solved if you sit in a dark room with no direct sources of light hitting the screen. are you referring to something else?anyways oleds in general should be used in dim rooms, so the extra brightness for mini leds isn't a factor when it comes to colors. if you absolutely have to sit in a bright rooms then oleds are a bad idea in general
>>737296932a brighter and more impactful image is better regardless of environment. especially if we're talking about monitors which will likely be used for multiplayer games like battlefield 6 or whatever.
>>737297057>if you absolutely have to sit in a bright rooms then oleds are a bad idea in generalOr you buy WOLED... What kind of living room is living in the dark? Imagine byuing a QD-OLED TV only to close every curtain when you want to use it. Fucking ridiculous.
>>737297051you're right, WOLED is better in bright environments. but i don't think OLEDS should be used in bright environments in generalbut WOLED is obviously superior in that case>>737297098im talking specifically about gaming monitors, my bad. i wouldn't get a QD-OLED TV
>2026>Humans still can't create a perfect monitorHow
>>737296286no, you're a child who thinks a background picture and wasting space on a taskbar is "so cool and mature"
>>737291339ive got one of each. OLED is by far the best in every aspect but as an old person, i can strongly say it isnt good enough.I want to test my current system config with a PVM CRT but they are basically nonexistent here and i cant be fucked searching online for one just to pay too much for something i dont care enough about to be greedy
>>737297146They can. Professional monitors and TVs have achieved perfection a long time ago.
>>737296951Yeah that one. It can get ridiculously bright.
>>737297060you're right for console gaming in the living room, but that extra brightness would blast my eyes in my gaming cave
>>737291943im very interested to see CRT with FSR4, both upscaled and frame generated. It make me wonder about FSR related blurriness and if CRT would practically negate its drawbacks.
>>737297057QD-OLED monitors have 2 modes which have noticeable trade-offs from each other. you have the "true black" uniform brightness mode which caps out at like 400 nits to prevent ABL but it means you're not even using the full capability of the monitor and HDR is severely limited as a consequence, or you have the peak brightness mode which can take full advantage of the panel to provide the immersive HDR experience you're paying top dollar for, but then medium brightness scenes in games look way too dark almost like the gamma curve is fucked. it's a fundamental flaw of QD-OLED tech at the moment, so you have 2 modes of which both are compromised in different ways. WOLED doesn't have this issue, but has other issues of its own.
>>737292194CRT can be dynamically clocked for higher refresh rates and they use so much power that even low native resolutions can display sharper images that are upscaled prior to display rendering (whether it's fake gen or not)
>>737297098What kind of retard plays video games in a lit room?
>>737291339tnGODS won
>>737297269how does the mode switching work? automatic with HDR?
>>737291339Oled for modernCRT for classic Miniled for outdoors
>>737297269I prefer WOLED's downsides, thanks Samsung.
>>737292356the thing is, they are right to suggest mini LED but it might not be quite what you're looking for. MicroLED is slowly making it's way to consumer grade but it will be a long while and still might not fit the bill for you.All you can hope for is a form of OLED that cleans itself every time you look away, and no firmware does tgat reliably to my knowledge.My current QD-OLED has features implying it works this way but it never does and pixel cleaning messages only seem to appear while im busy using the display, not letting me choose to do it later
>>737297428both are HDR, you have to manually choose which one you want.
>>737297405>tnGODS won
>>737291339OLED can cause cancer.
>>737297358Here's a stock photo of two homossexauls playing video games in living room. What's wrong with this besides their sexual preferences? Do you close every curtain in your room before playing? Do you wait for nightfall before turning on your TV/Monitor? Do you turn off every single light and strain your eyes?
>>737297525Then stop eating them.
>>737297482>not letting me choose to do it laterlmao wut
I have an OLED but I still just play stuff in SDR, am i missing out?
>>737297543Yeah you would want to emulate homos
>>737296065can you do me a favour and try making a similar example with an FSR game? Both upscaled and frame generation enabled?Im wondering about games like darktide on a CRT. Needs clarity and performance, CRT could well be tye cheat code
>>737297269interesting, i never see this mentioned in tests. do you have a link?
>>737297517i dont need your newfangled motion blurred slop or garbage i cant even put a wallpaper on
>>737297672https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yx3mv9-_zSA
>>737297564random popup appears.>Clean Now>Ask Later>Cancelonly clean now can be selected
>>737295854A 60Hz CRT equals to like a 1000Hz OLED, it's literally that Invincible meme
>>737297748thanks
>>737297846Whoops meant for this >>737296065
>>737291943*HRT
>>737297846no, it doesn'tsample and hold blur literally doesn't fucking matter, you render 60 images and you will see all 60 imagescrts don't make up visual information that somehow interpolates two frames together
the 'eck makes me want to get an OLED monitor after realizing how much better the experience is.But currently using IPS
idunno I bought some shit for like $100 on amazon been using that for 5 years.
>>737297189those are low refresh rate and high latency
im so fucking scared to clean my OLED
>>737298309get microfibre cloth, use a glasses lens cleaner spray. Anything else will smudge oils across it
>>737298309you can get a lifetime cleaning supply for it for a single jackson
I have two IPS
>>737298359i have a glossy panel, does the same still apply? i googled how to clean it and people are talking about alcohol mixes which seems wrong
>>737298425Are microfiber cloths one time use or you can wash them?
>>737298501>1200 washes
>>737298490>>737298501you can also get boxes of lens wipes. They look similar to those towelette things you get from kfc and stuff. Different brands use different solutions and papers so you might nees to experiment a little. But the right one will solves any smudges the other attempts create. You just have to be cautious not to push dust around while wiping because it can scratch. So a clean duster that lightly brush with before wiping, otherwise the cloth can be good to use. Example, hold the cloth from one corner and softly swipe the other end at the screen with some wind force to brush off any particles, then spray the screen and wipe in circles
>>737298863thanks anon
>>737296157I calibrated mine using ColorControl from github. It looks amazing now.
got a chinese 1440p 180Hz ips a while ago and it's great, but i was considering getting an OLED, then i read a bunch of anons saying oled has burn in and that i should get a mini led, based on comparisons they are not that different, what do you guys think?
>>737299104i've tried using these apps to override the settings which are locked out in the OSD in HDR but they don't do anything. the monitor is flawed in HDR unfortunately.
>>737299185oled is better in almost every way but higher risk and won't last you as long. mini led is better if you're in a bright environment
>>737291661I just switched to an OLED and honestly, the backlight bleed that everyone bitches about on IPS panels isn't that bad unless it's a really old and shit panel.OLED is still a nice upgrade though.>>737299185go with oled if you can get a good warranty that covers burn in, which you usually can
>>737299276in your opinion is the difference big enough to justify the risk of burn in?
>>737291339I got a QDOLED, its pretty nice and the purple blacks with lights on meme is overblown.
>>737299185OLEDs just need a little babysitting.Treat them as the specialty monitor you use to only watch/play the thing, and then turn them off when you're done.
>>737299329depends entirely on your standards and how much you're willing to spend. for me it was 100% worth it, im still wowed by it after a year+. it genuinely looks amazing i got it for $600 on sale, full price was $900
>>737299329the risk is severely overstated>use dark modes>hide taskbar>properly light control your room with curtains and don't max out the brightness>set it to timeout when not in useand that's itanyone that thinks those terms are unacceptable is a glue eater, it's all common sense that you'd arrive at even without the oled
>>737296880>"2K" otherwise correctly known as 1440p or QHDThis I guess. I just call it 2K lol
All this stupid shit instead of just simply reducing the fucking brightness or something.Clown world. Retard consoomers.
>>737292094What does the demon core got to do with it?
>>737291339OLEDstop being fucking poor
Im happy with my IPS office monitor. I dont need 144 hz, I dont play fps anyway
>>737299557Remember 2560 is closer to 2k as a number than 1920 is!
>>737291339Got an ASUS ProArt PA278CGV 1440p144hz for IPS, a ROG Strix XG27UQDMS 2160p240hz for OLED. I prefer the ProArt IPS for gaming lmao>>737291661Something is wrong with the IPS one in your pic my dude, actual quality modern IPS looks close to OLED, if you're poor do not bother arguing this because you have to actually test out monitors to know it's a fact.
I got a new monitor and it had really shit backlight bleed and a dead pixelI got another of the same model and it had better backlight bleed but a worse dead pixel right in the middle of the screenI kept the first one and Amazon jeet support was fucking useless and hung up on meis this really what fucking monitors are like now
>>737299208But you can get rid of stupid green tint and low gamma with custom windows color profile. Mine looks miles better now. Give me your temp mail, I'll send you my icc file when I return home
>>737291339I got an IPS 24G4XE for fairly cheap, couldn't care less about the new shiny and expensive OLED monitors considering how modern tech is purposefully built with planned obsolescence in mind, you're just begging to get ripped off at that point.
After seeing the oled motion clarity I can't go back to lesser displays. dem response times mane
>>737299767what brand(s)?
>>737299767why buy expensive shit from amazon?you're supposed to get it from actual electronics stores
oled tv chad for gaming + ultrawide VA for browsing.Feels good. the LGC1 is endgame oled tv and nothing can replace it, but my ultrawide could be better, although for VA it has excellent response times.I'm looking at these Pulsar monitors to replace it, but none of them are ultrawide. It's cool for gaming but I like 21:9 for productivity especially.
I spent $1k on a 4k oled and feel like I got scammed. Games still have a ton of aliasing, modern TAA still looks horribly blurry and the 'deep blacks' are a total meme and barely noticeable. Plus all my games run like shit now and I need to use upscaling and frame gen in anything recent. It also constantly pesters me to run 'screen cleaning'. Why can't modern products just be good? Why do shills have to lie about them?
>>737291339Looking into getting a new monitor as the one I have is from 2014. But the market has left me behind and I have no idea what I am looking at.
>>737300134sure you did
>>737300134post monitor with timestamp
Never owned an OLED but I've been bothered by shitty blacks in TN, VA, and IPS in all LCD. All these years of "muh contrast ratios" and after we got to the 100000000000000000000000000:1 point and every dark scene in a movie and game still looks gray instead of black like I'm going blind, I think it's just memories of me using CRT 18 years ago and knowing there was better.No one needs an OLED more than me but I'm still too cheap. I've seen it in person at other people's houses. I know it's all the rave but it's so fucking good that I still call it underrated technology.
>>737300134Why did you think OLED could magically fix TAA?
>>737300160>>737300220No-one ever mentions the screen cleaning thing, I only found out about it after I got the display. I think that should be proof enough I have one.>>737300256Because I was told TAA looks fine at higher resolutions and that 1080p was the issue.
>>737300134>Why do shills have to lie about them?you answered your own question
>>737299990>>737300048LG 24G411A-B I got it on sale for 100 bucks
>>737291339This, Nitro XV1 IPS, pretty good for the price and I'm considering buying a second one.
>>737299789wow, you might have saved me. i was literally about to flog this monitor off to a friend but if i can fix it i'd prefer to keep it because it's a good monitor. thanks good sirbowiwex819@sskaid.com
As a doom 3 enjoyer oled is the only viable modern option.
>>737300285I thought the point of 4k was that you don't need AA or was this only if you rendered at higher res and then downscaled it to native?
>>7373005944K at living room viewing distances certainly helps, but it doesn't get rid of aliasing
>>737300285why are you such a lying little faggot?>>737300594he doesn't have an OLED
>>737300594the point of 4k is having a bigger monitor that can take up more of your visual field while staying sharp
Is there an f.lux equivalent that works well with HDR?
>>737300285>>737300665wait i misunderstood your problem. i apologize i thought you went from regular 4k to OLED 4k, not that you went from 1080p to 4k
>>737300594>what is screen density?some of you faggot are really retarded
>>737300665I'm not lying
>>737300905im sorry again, i misunderstood your issue. to be fair that only happens after 4hrs of the monitor not even going to sleep, is it on constantly?
>>737300905don't you have a setting to disable the nagging?my monitor only ever cleans when it turns itself off or when i reach out to the screen care menu and turn it on
oled is amazing for gaming, but i made a mistake buying an oled LGTV. the judder inherent in oled makes 24fps content unbearable
>>737301045Yes but then aren't I risking burn in?
>>737301060Those TVs have dejudder features, right? Not in PC mode.
>>737301124If you're actually playing a game or watching something dynamic the entire time, no.Pixel cleaning is mostly for retards who let their OLEDs idle.
>>737301124just start the cleaning manually or set it to auto clean when you turn it offlet it clean itself while you're shitting or getting food or watching some video on your phone
>>737300134>'deep blacks' are a total meme and barely noticeable.this is how I know you're lying.Imagine lying on the internet? Despicable>modern TAA still looks horribly blurry except DLSS4.5, which you should use especially at 4K. It looks sharp as fuck, even with heavy upscaling.
>>737301124are you really using it 4hrs continuously without stepping away for even 10 minutes? my monitors goes to sleep after 5 mins of activity, ive literally never seen that reminder
>>737300545tfw still no raytraced dewm 3
>>737291339Some decade old 60hz TN panel monitor. I want to finally get a new one but I have a hard time choosing one. I want IPS for sure and atleast 100hz but I cant decide if its worth getting a 1440p monitor if I use my pc mostly for browsing and watching youtube videos/streams and only very little gaming. Probably will end up getting a 1080p 27inch one.
>>737301365>atleast 100hz Do NOT bother with any Hz that's not strictly 60/120/180/240especially if you're not a gamer (why are you here)
Get VAIt's overall better and come with free motion blur so you can turn it off in game to get free performance boost
The fuck does Vaipsoled mean?
>>737301770latest OLED variant where you get free ghosting and light bleed
>>737301060as anon said you have motion flow settings for 24hz that can help, I think even the minimum setting is enough to improve the motion just a touch.
>>737291339>Bought IPS>Used until dead/stuck pixels and vertical lines made it unbearable to use>Bought VA>ghosting left and right>tried to fix it by adjusting refresh rates, resolution, response time>No avail>Blur get pixelated in some gamesI'm getting a 21" CRT the next time around.
>>737301875>the judder inherent in oledLiterally suffering with success. The judder in CRTs should be even worse, if i'm not mistaken. People got too used to the blur caused by shit tier LCDs - especially slow VAs.
>>737299571Unstable prices being diddle by malicious retards that only makes it worst.
>>737300903given that 4k is universally recommended here regardless of size and viewing distance? No
>>737292165>I have shitty monitor>HDR is a memegeez, how surprising
oled sucks and youre a fool if you get it, its annoying as fuckmiddle of a game and it tells me oh lets turn off your monitor now for 15 minutes . who cares if you're in the middle of a competitive online matchno way to stop it or disable it from happeningall because of what? some slightly better blacks? fuck that
>>737302007There is no judder with CRTs because the image is being displayed for fractions of a milliseconds, compared to 14 something milliseconds in 60 fps content for example.
>>737292165>500 usd for a full hd monitorBro you got scammed
>>737295467>he doesn't have the taskbar always hidden to maximize screen space
>>737302174you are fucking retarded4K on a too tiny display will make a density so high that you will see "aliasing", same thing if the density is too lowthe resolution alone doesn't matter, what matters is the screen density (ratio between the resolution and the screen size)
>>737302709and viewing distancea 4k display will have 4x the apparent surface area of a 1080p monitor when viewed from an optimal distance
>>737295778what lack?high end CRTs are supporting resolutions up to 1600x1200
>>737302797we are talking about monitors here, you are not going to sit on the couch 5 meters away, so the distance is the same for everyone.>a 4k display will have 4x the apparent surface area of a 1080p monitor when viewed from an optimal distanceagain you don't understand what is screen density, good luck playing a game in 4K on 15" screen, let's see if you get more "apparent surface" than a 1080p resolution...
>>737302491>>500 usd for a full hd monitorkek that anon got scammed, HARD, you can get qd-oled with $500 nowadays
>>737303003>so the distance is the same for everyone.and you call others retards. There are always a handful of anons that play on TVs in those thread
>>737302996it's not the resolution you donkey, it's the precision, aka, the way the pixel are rendered, the CRT doesn't render a really "precise" and "accurate" representation of a pixel, therefore, on a very crowded rendering (like a 3d dense jungle) you get less precision and accuracy to see what is happening
>>737303119>always a handful of anons that play on TVs in those thread>and you call others retardscorrect, they are retarded
>>737303003i'm not that guy, just wanted to add to what you saidthere's nothing stopping you from customising your setup and moving the monitoryou should aim at a viewing distance that gives you 60 ppdand at that distance a 1080p monitor will have an angular size of 32 degrees while a 4k monitor will have an angular size of 64 degrees
>>737291339>20 yo TN LCD as side monitor>144hz IPS as mainNot buying OLED because it's ticking bomb. Once better tech is affordable I will make a switch.
>>737291339I've been running an Oled monitor for 3 years and doing just fine.Just set brightness as low as possible and avoid using HDR fags.
>>737303315>your setup and moving the monitorIt's way better to choose a monitor/screen density that match your usual distance than constantly moving the monitor to achieve this.if you play online/pvp, you will get a monitor that will match your fixed position, and that's it.
>>737303436The whole point of an OLED is near perfect HDR.
>>737303589oled has hdr without enabling hdr
>>737303436>it's only good if I gimp it's featuresThis is how you sound to me. You bought a piece of hardware and you remove the contrast by removing HDR and nuke the brightness to avoid burn-in. You're fucked up in the head mate. You could have bought conventional monitor instead of babysitting OLED.
>>737302373Stop playing games for five hours straight and get a job.
Just ordered a 4K IPS mini-LED, decided I didn't want to fuck with OLED
>>737303626You don't get, dci-p3 coverage, 10 bit color nor do you get high nit highlights.
>>737303589no that's not the whole point
>>737303436>and avoid using HDR fags.Why would I want to avoid HDR? I DRAW in HDR. My SDR white is at 230 nits.
been using my gigabyte mo34wqc (oled) for around a year now, no complaints
>>737297672>interesting, i never see this mentioned in testsyou mean shils aren't telling the truth? shocking
>>737291339OLED is too rich for my blood, chinkoid 1440p for 180 bucks is all i need, when OLED gets that i will try it.
I only use my OLED to watch movies and TV shows, which I rarely do. But I find it funny because, for some reason, my OLED TV makes everything look like a soap opera. I’ve tried adjusting all the settings, but nothing helps. OLED gives you better image quality and contrast, but in return, it turns every moving image into a soap opera.For work, I use an IPS panel because my computer use is totally hardcore and it stays on 18+ hours a day, often running the same software"But... but... IPS burns out before OLED, I saw it on RTings!"Yeah, sure, lol. I’ve been using this thing for years and the colors are still perfectly uniform across the entire screen. There’s absolutely no way an OLED screen could have survived the way I use this display.
>>737304030>it turns every moving image into a soap opera.you probably have interpolation set on by accident
>>737304030Blaming OLED for having interpolation on. You people don't even know the tech you're using.
>>737304030IPS looks worse out of the box than some burn in on OLED after 5 years lol
>>737291339OLED.>>737291661This, honestly getting an OLED was a mistake, my secondary is an IPS and I can barely believe I used to play games and watch shit on that monitor, when I move a window over the colors are so muted.
>>737304121I remember the first time i saw it on display in best buy, I thought someone was recording a live performance of Pirates of the Caribbean at disney world kek
>>737303656I forgot /v/ was normalfag central now
>>737303707How much content out there really does extend into DCI-P3? My experience is most HDR for vidya is just srgb but gets brighter.
Still using my Dell IPS from 2017.
>>737291339LG C1 55" for controller gamesAW2725D for mouse/kb games never thought the C1 would last me this long but I've had it for 4 years and it's showing no signs of burn in, and newer oleds are not worth upgrading to yet the difference is minimal. i never liked IPS since the backlight bleed/IPS glow is awful, I prefer TN over that shit. never got the hype for IPS especially when people were paying near $1k for IPS in the late 2010s. VA is the worst of the lot for gaming, a smeary mess.
>>737302373Doesn't happen with my OLED TV or monitor lmao. Did you buy the cheapest OLED monitor?
>>737305062He's retarded, all the monitors I've seen this with allow you to cancel it and I think you also need to select yes manually
>>737291339oled obviously
>>737303173you didn't own a CRT monitor and it showsthere is no visual difference between LCD pixels and CRT lines on higher resolutionsimage you posted shows 240p rendering
>want glossy monitor>the only options are OLEDsWhy?
got a FO32U2P half a year ago. 4k is overrated (way too taxing on performance and i can't notice any real quality difference from my old 1080p60hz shitty tn screen) and as for HDR - it's poorly implemented in most of the games so i just stick to SDR. The colors are pretty, the image is clean. I also got rid of vsync tax with it so a big win too for me personally. Wish i went with a 1440p screen instead though (at the moment there were no dp2.1 panels so i made a dumb rushed decision).
>>737305451just peel the antiglare off if you don't like it
>>737300134>he fell for the 4k meme
>>737305287if anything, the dots used to produce a crt produced a much smoother and cleaner imagedraw back is, most of us never owned nice crts
>>737299571tempting fate
>>737303778Why do you draw in HDR? I can easily understand photo/video processing but I can't quite grasp what's the point of drawing specifically in HDR (unless you use xbox hueg gradients and need 16bit precision)
24" is for 1080p27" is for 1440p32" is for 4ksimple as
>>73730578027" 4k is god tier
>>737305780>>73730582932" is too big for a monitor imo, tried it and ended up going back to 27 with next monitor
>>737305829diminishing returns, too high PPI
>>737306010i agree, 27" 1440p is perfect
>>737306130i'm using an alienware qd-oled 27" 1440p 280hz, i only have a 3060ti, i'm not really running anything at 4k anywaygames look fucking great these days regardless, not like the old days. hl1 on software rendering was shit.
>>737291661mini led does blacks just as wellyou might have slight blooming if you cheap out on the dimming zones but basically imperceptible outside of a camera view
>>737302276>>737302491Keep seething trannies :3
>>737305773>Why do you draw in HDR?For the same reason I like looking at other HDR content. It looks prettier.Specifically, it's useful for any scene that has large amounts of contrast between light and shadow. Sky in particular looks really good in HDR as, depending on where the sun is, it can be several times brighter than other parts of the scene.And for the record, I don't just "draw" in HDR, I actually output my work in actual, real HDR. So I like having a display that won't burn out when viewing it.https://art.soandnb.com/posts/query=hdr
>>737305287>you didn't own a CRT monitor and it showsI did, and I used one for a long time because it was the only cheap screen I could use with the nvidia 3D vision glass>there is no visual difference between LCD pixels and CRT lines on higher resolutionsyou are literally talking out of your asshttps://youtu.be/C_-9Rw5CJNE?t=751>>737305603again, you are talking out of your ass, go try to play RUST or PUBG or Battlefield, enjoy trying to find a target in a dense jungle with those dots
>>737306501glasses**
>>737292145The main reason why our phone looks better is because of ppi size, shill-kun.
it's tough. OLED is clearly the only good panel tech, but there are variants of OLED and they all have their own sorta shitty suck ass problems.
>>737306501>again, you are talking out of your ass, go try to play RUST or PUBG or Battlefield, enjoy trying to find a target in a dense jungle with those dots>againi don't think we've talked before in this thread, i think you have me mixed upanyway i don't have a crt, haven't had one for years
>>737306023Maybe if you're visually impaired. I remember getting a 17" laptop after using a 15" one for a while, both 1440p, and noticing a reduction in sharpness. This was not confirmation bias, I had not anticipated any difference. This is a difference of 2 inches, same resolution, identical panels besides, so if you show me a 27" monitor at 1440p I am sure as hell going to notice the difference in clarity. I got accustomed to it after a while sure, you can get accustomed to anything after long enough.
>>737291339Honestly I didn't believed in OLED before getting one, its a gamechanger.Still don't think it warrant's the price, I only got mine bacuse I found a really good deal with samsung for a 32 inch monitor for around 500ish USD
I need a 4k 240hz oled because....uuuhhhh....reasons.
>>737306662I thought you were the same anon just adding more stuff to the previous comment, my badI did owned a CRT for a long time because I couldn't afford 100hz+ screen when the 3D vision was out, so I kept the CRT specifically for that, I played Crysis 1, Burnout Paradise, Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter, Need For Speed Shift etc.... I kept this CRT until Battlefield 3 was released, after that I stopped to use it when I saw how bad a CRT is when it come to clarity and precision, something needed if you play online.You are literally at a massive disadvantage on a map like Caspian Border with a CRT, the lack of clarity will make spotting any target in bush impossible.compare for yourselfhttps://files.catbox.moe/tfyou7.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/r6yz8a.jpg
>>737306501>TVretard
>>737307642it's the same>retard
>>737306425>.jpg>wtf is this shit>drop into gimp>asks to convert gamut to process fileWhat the fuck, I thought you had to use at least jpg2k to save HDR?Nice octopussy ass btw
>>737307642>>737307675NTAit's very much not the same. tvs (even hd crts) were much lower quality than proper hd crt monitors.linus is a jewish merchant, do not fall for his dishonest tricks
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>>737307739depending of the brand, they were quite the same, again, I owned them>linus is a jewish merchant, do not fall for his dishonest tricksI know, but good luck finding an actual "good quality" video or picture comparing the crt vs led on the net, I'm forced to use his video because nobody else have this type of content.Also, the point is not about what he think, the point is to look at what is shown on the video, you can clearly see the difference in clarity, and it's not something you can really debate about it, it's down to how the CRT display a pixel, it's not accurate enough for this type of content.
>>737302709>a density so high that you will see "aliasing"lol wut
>>737308013>Also, the point is not about what he think, the point is to look at what is shown on the video, you can clearly see the difference in clarity, and it's not something you can really debate about it, it's down to how the CRT display a pixel, it's not accurate enough for this type of content.the problem is that linus will sabotage a comparison to shill products for placements, endorsements, and further rewardcomparing a bad 1080i tv to an oled is obviously going to end up favouring the oledthere is a vast difference in quality between a crappy hd crt tv and a good hd crt monitor
>>737308105yes, you heard it right, you will see jagged edges if the resolution is way too high for a screen size and no downsampling or AA filter is used.if you want to see how it looks, watch this video in 4K and resize it to lowest size you can, enjoy: https://youtu.be/M8hv1Oah2uQ?t=526
>>737308105moar res = moar pixels = moar jaggies because there are moar squares on screengod /v/ is so dumb
>>737307727I don't know about all that but the file is an "Ultra HDR" JPEG (Or more specifically, an ISO 21496-1 Gainmapped JPEG). Basically, it has a normal SDR base image, and then a second "gainmap" image that stores the delta between SDR and HDR, and applies it if you have an HDR display. It's not particularly efficient, as it uses both the dated JLG standard AND stores an extra image on top of that, bit it's fully backwards compatible (old decoders will just strip the gainmap and render the SDR) and I can control both the SDR rendition and the HDR rendition.Weird that GIMP freaks out over it, since it should be read as a regular SDR JPG. Maybe GIMP had an update that lets it read gainmaps.
>>737308013you're a fucking moronget a CRT PC monitor and see for yourselfCRT TVs are made with much bigger aperture grill pitch size which makes them unusable for PC since they can't display fine details properly
>>737308198>the problem is that linus will sabotage a comparison to shill products for placements, endorsements, and further rewardI do know that, but here we are talking about the fundamental of how a CRT works. I do like CRT for retro games because those games where made for those screens, but in modern gaming, with so high resolution and assets, a CRT become detrimental, it add more "noise" to the picture that is already far too noisy, which end up giving a blurry mess where long distance rendering is just a vomit of pixel.Like I said, if you were playing with a CRT on a game like Battlefield 3, you would be at a massive disadvantage (even more when playing jet/heli, something require long range targeting)
>>737308307gimp can do 32bit float precision nowadays, also I forgot to mention it can keep the old gamut since it also has color profiling
>>737308561>get a CRT PC monitor and see for yourselfI already told you that I did have a CRT PC you fucking retard
>>737291881>>737291951it also offers free burn in of whatever games interface you are playing for more than 30 minutes at a time
>>737308249You're retarded
>>737308274U avin a laff?
>>737309031I accept your concession
>>737291339I've got all of them>32" 1440p 165Hz curved VAIt's meh.>27" 1440p 120Hz IPSIt's okay.>55" 4k 120Hz OLED TVIt's great.
>>737291339>VAIPSOLEDcool fucking name dude
>>737309008i love how the time it takes for burn in to happen slowly goes down every thread. soon you'll have people saying burn in is instant
>>737307739>tvs (even hd crts) were much lower quality than proper hd crt monitors.now try running PS2 on CRT monitor.In fact I just got a VGA adapter and had to go through mental gymnastics with OPL and GSM to get it working properly. Which is not possible without any hack.
>>737309254>32" 1440p 165Hz curved VA>It's meh.I don't think curved Fast VAs exist, but could be wrong. I owned a flat Fast VA panel and it's actually pretty neat. VA has come a very long way.
>>737309550yeah most ps2 games were designed with 480i in mind. nothing interlaced will look good on a pc crt.
>>737309607>32" 1440p 165Hz curved VAbenq? i have one too. it's good, but it's nowhere near as nice as the oled i upgraded to.
>>737309550>now try running PS2 on CRT monitor.NTA but what do you mean? Component cables should be plug and play and you get the best picture quality available on the console.
>>737309678You may have replied to the wrong person. I owned a flat VA. The other anon had the curved.
>>737309683Monitors usually didn't support 480i or 576i
>>737309747ah my bad, you're right.>>737309254sorry anon, this was for you >>737309678
>>737309803Oh, right. I skipped the monitor part. I've only every played PS2s connected to TVs and there was never a problem with component. Pretty sure they all did 480i and 576i.Now I understand the VGA thing. Yea, converting component to VGA should be a nightmare, but that's shouldn't be the monitor's fault. VGA is RGB while component is YPbPr.
>>737309607>>737309678Dell S3220DGF I got it in 2020 because it was a good deal at the time, it's alright it's not a bad monitor, just that VA has black smearing which can be very annoying in games.
>>737291339OLEDs are like plasma screens. They had their time, but it's over.
the mini led autist has arrived
>>737310171>just that VA has black smearing which can be very annoying in games.Exactly. That's why I mentioned Fast VA. They started becoming relatively popular around late 2023, early 2024. The black smearing has been significantly reduced.
>>737310171ah, to be fair dell make really good monitors. my oled is an alienware.>>737310220you seem to be discounting the amazing motion clarity of oleds compared with leds.
>>737303589>Buy screen with perfect contrast>Enable feature that's fucked in 99% of games and makes everything look grey?Yes, of course I calibrated it, retard.
>>737310459No you didn't
>>737310459Oh, I remember you. Like I siad, you should be using the monitor's ICC profile from its support page, not calibrate it on your own.But regarding games becoming gray, the only example I know of where this happens is Silent Hill f. It has THE most broken HDR implementation that I've ever seen in a game. That said, I did also recommend you try Returnal. That game has one of the best implementation and should always look better than SDR - always.
>>737310314Haven't tried a more modern VA, but IPS is also a lot better than before.I "downgraded" to a 27" IPS, but it actually has 2000:1 contrast ratio. >>737310380I am a bit of a Dell monitor fanboy to be honest, I've had multiple monitors, usually Ultrasharp, and never had any problems.
>>737310618>I "downgraded" to a 27" IPS, but it actually has 2000:1 contrast ratio.Dell IPS Black? They're the only ones that I know that achieve 2000:1 contrast, but are limited to 120Hz...
>>737310681Yep U2724DE, I've measured it with my calibrator.The laptop is OLED btw, if it's not obvious from the photo.
>>737310618i really like the alienwareother than that i think my mac computers have had the best displays - i had a 5k imac and that thing looked great (only 60hz though), very bright and clear though. macbook pro 14" m1 pro looked amazing too.both apple and dell use lg panels afaik. i always find samsung panels look bad. too saturated. think if i wanted an oled tv i'd want a sony though.
>>737310764I doubt any other brand will use this tech. It's expensive as is and other brandsprobably odn't want to pay for it.
>>737310614Youre retarded
>>737310890I yield.
>>737310938Thanks
IPS monitor: White people monitorOLED monitor: Black people monitorSimple as that.
OLEDbut never bothered to calibrate hdr thus never used HDR ever in a game
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>>737300545>can't see shit>cant see shit even more
>>737310614>Oh, I remember you.Except my monitor is a AW2725DF?
>>737291676how is that surprising, retard? that was 5 months ago, and if you meant the previous december 17 months still is fucking nothing for an OLED. stop falling for retard psyops
>>737311107>AW2725DFBased aw3225qf here
>>737310806LG is the gold standard for budget OLED TVs.I have a Hisense that uses the same panel as the C4 from LG iirc, but the firmware isn't as good as in the LG TV so it produces a worse picture.It's still an OLED though, and it was significantly cheaper so I can't complain.>>737310870I don't know why it didn't gain traction I don't see a lot of IPS monitors using an "IPS Black" panel, it certainly improves the black level, though it's still not as good as VA.
>>737311170>I don't see a lot of IPS monitors using an "IPS Black" panelIt's tech created by DELL. It's probably very expensive and obviously brands don't want to reward DELL for it.There's also the fact that OLEDs are now starting to become cheap-ish (~500€) and VAs have also become pretty fast too.
>>737311146das it mane
>>737311259>OLEDs are now starting to become cheap-ish (~500€)https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/alienware-27-240hz-qd-oled-gaming-monitor-aw2726dm/apd/210-bvrc/monitors-monitor-accessoriestry $350
>>737311287Based>hdr 400Same i did limit fps to 144fps
>>737311107I didn't make it clear. The image was just an example. It's my monitor.
>>737311306>$350there is literally no excuse to not own an OLED at this point, simply call detractors poorfags and laugh at them
>>737311306Add tax to it. Euros already include tax.
>>737311259Ips black is also way slower than normal ips
>>737311381yea but the difference between $350 and 500€ is more than just tax. i'm not calling that anon wrong or anything, just saying prices are rapidly dropping way faster than even i thought, i only knew about the $350 alienware because a friend just bought one. i paid $700 for my OLED 2 years ago
>>737311321>hdr 400Its >hdr 400 true blackHdr 400 is a typical ips with no dimming zones
>>737311321Trueblack is the only mode you should use on that screen to get accurate HDR. Peak 1000 only works on such a tiny portion of the screen and will dim below SDR brightness in bright scenes and while the dolby bright and peak 1000 bright modes are very cool they raise the black floor which diminishes some of the effect.
TrueBlack 500 here. No need to worship me, peasants.
>>737311581>>737311520Meant that
>>737291339About a week ago I returned the budget KTC miniled VA monitor that is currently being recommended. Wasn't really impressed, a VA monitor has to be curved or the gamma shift is unbearable, but they don't make curved miniled. It was nice to try HDR, but my retina getting burned every time someone wears a white shirt on screen gets old quick.Replaced it with a curved AOC VA that costs half as much. Bearable gamma shift and it had much better tuned overdrive compared to the KTC, the VA smearing was minimal. It would have been really good value if not for the horrible backlight bleed.I replaced it with an other monitor of the same type, and this one also has bad, but slightly better backlight bleeding. I'm so tired bros, I just want a a monitor without obvious defects, and I don't want to pay 4x as much for oled.Should I just give up and get IPS? I heard those also have bad backlight bleeding nowdays, is non-bleeding backlight some kind of lost technology? My 15yo ips has none of it.
>>737310220left looks better
>>737311170The Hisense OLED (A85N)>>737311259I didn't realise it's trademarked actually, that explains why it's not mainstream. >>737311456It does blur yeah, the overdrive setting does absolutely nothing except create artefacts
>>737311940>My 15yo ips has none of it.Must have won the lottery because I've never owned or seen an IPS panel without some bleeding. Regardless of that, the contrast is piss poor still. At best you can find 1400:1, the best around are Dell IPS Black at 2000:1
>>737312086that fucking retard has just never seen a display without bleed
>>737312086>>737312223Every single LCD has backlight bleed and uniformity issues.
>>737312086Do people actually differentiate between backlight bleed and IPS glow?
can someone help a retard out? if i download the ICC profile to my monitor, should i then reset my manually calibrated monitor settings to default? meaning the settings i navigate on the actual monitor and not in windows
>>737312587I wouldn't know because my monitor doesnt let me change settings in HDR
>>737312587The regular profile and HDR profile are seperate. If you're talking about HDR profile, go to Settings>System>Display>HDR and delete the ones you have. Then add the new one.
>>737312223> that fucking retard has just never seen a display without bleedDude, I just returned a miniled monitor. No backlight problems, but a bunch of other issues that ruined it.>>737312086Maybe it's not no bleeding as much as so much bleeding that it looks uniform. Whatever the case, a dark screen, while obviously brighter, looks way more uniform compared to the glowing corners of new VA panel.
>>737312587Don't just download someone elses .ICC profile, just buy a used calibrator, even new ones aren't that expensive.But I guess you can read what settings were used, was it reset to default or set to colour space (sRGB typically) or colour temperature (6500k typically).
>>737312761>looks way more uniform compared to the glowing corners of new VA panel.The hell? I owned the Q27G3XMN for 2 years and never noticed glowing on the sides. There's a slight gamma shift because it's flat, but glowing? Nope.
>>737311940On an other note, why isn't pixel-dependent gamma compensation a thing for VA panels? That way they could avoid having to make them curved, which causes these backlight uniformity issues to be worse.
>>737306425>anon masters color theory>forgets to master the lineart along the wayel oh elI bookmarked your page, please improve.
>>737312809why not? RTings has a profile specifically for my display
IPS because there are no 16:10 or 3:2 oleds and I refuse to downgrade to 16:9I upgraded to IPS in 2020 and my mind is still stuck on garbage bin TN panels from 10 years prior as my standard, so even cheap IPS panels look fantastic to me
>>737313023So you're talking about the regular ICC profile? In that case you shouldn't use someone else's. Every monitor is different out of the factory.
>>737291339I had a 1440p 60hz (actually 59.9) IPS screen for YEARS, the colours and brightness on it were good, but it got really hot and started getting temporary burn-in really often towards the end, like going from a bright screen to a black one would faintly retain a lot of the outlines from the bright screen for about 5 seconds, so I decided to replace itThe refresh rate was an issue, though it seemed like it wouldn't make a difference on paper, but applications kept getting confused with Vsync on and not mantaining a solid FPS, and I always used vsync because screen tearing bothers me immenslyNow I have a VA 180Hz curved monitor with HDR and VRR and I do quite like it; I had heard VA panels were worse with colour, and I could see it a bit before I enabled HDR, but I think the HDR is being used to mask that weakness, and Windows has auto-HDR for a lot of games now if they don't have their own support for it, so it's fineI love VRR though, I can finally turn off vsync in games, because I had noticed the sluggishness added by the extra latency and it annoyed me (though not as much as screen tearing), but now i get no tearing and more responsive controlsI would have loved to have gotten an OLED, but unlike some anons on here I'm not made of money and neither is my family, hence why I used the same monitor for like 10 years before my upgrade, and all the OLEDs with comparable features to the monitor I got were usually double the price at least
>>737313149>I would have loved to have gotten an OLED, but unlike some anons on here I'm not made of moneyBrah.
>>737313023Because there's going to be variations between the panels, it's not going to be right for your monitor. You can get a very good picture just by calibrating your monitor with a reference print, something like an IKEA catalogue or other high-quality printed media you can compare on paper and on your screen.You can set the basic settings like contrast, gamma and brightness using the test patterns here: http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/
>>737312761That's not backlight bleed. That's just the monitor not enabling local dimming in SDR or you've turned it off yourself. What you're seeing is the backlight always on which makes sense because some monitors assume you want a consistent experience in SDR I.e. without brightness fluctuations so it'll be fixed at the brightness you set it to without getting darker or brighter.
I came to conclusion that TCL 32R84 would probably be the best for me at the moment, but guess what, it's not available in Europe.
>>737312045It really does seem to have more detail in the eye, which is my problem with mini led so far ignoring bloom anything with color is still blown out
>>737313373>TCL 32R84> QD-Mini LEDAlright, spit it out. Is it a a VA panel?
>please please please please buy an oled pleasewhy are oled niggas like this?
>>737313429Yep, I just like high contrast, without image degradation.
>>737313265This was 3 years ago, and also Americans usually get tech a lot cheaper than us, not even just on conversion (though that is a sore point too, "599" is NOT the same in £'s as $'s), so you tend to get bigger discounts as well when things go on salepic related, it's already a higher number for us, and when you convert that into dollars it comes out at $500USD
>>737291339A chink miniLED IPS one. It's not ideal, but definitely a step above regular IPS monitors.
>>737313134oh, ill keep my own then ty
>>737312853Judge for yourself. This is the one I returned, the replacement is slightly better.>>737313308I meant that the miniled monitor is an example for no backlight bleed. It has an uniform miniled backlight when local dimming is off, it can't have the same issues as edge lit monitors.
>>737313134>>737313290but why doesn't this apply to HDR?
>>737313697HDR profiles have a lot more info. You should calibrate it too, but it's significantly harder. The profile is important because it tells Windows the exact highlight peak of whatever HDR settings your monitor is using.For instance, using my monitor's profile from the support page, Windows can automatically detect either 1500 peak mode or regular 500 peak mode whenver I change the setting on the monitor.
>>737313809thanks buddy. should i use window's HDR calibration tool or a different one?
>>737313870Windows tools are terrible. Just use the ICC profile of the monitor, if it has one.
>>737291339One of these bad boy
>>737313908you still need to calibrate the HDR with Windows even with the ICC profile anon
>>737313373TCL ended up being a big surprise for me, I had to replace my Samsung a few years ago because it died, and I was going to go for the modern equivalent Samsung again before I decided to do some research, and after reading a bunch of reviews I learned that Samsung started getting the Intel problem of complacency in their market position leading to worse productsI then did some digging through AV autist forums and a TCL TV came out as a shining example, but I'd never even heard of the brand before, but it was a 4K 144Hz screen with VRR and HDR10 so I decided to take a gamble and buy it and HOLY SHIT it's so fucking nice.I use it as a second monitor for my PC and it was so nice that it actually encouraged me to play a bunch of games on the TV using a controller that I normally play with KB+M in front of a monitor, just because the colours and motion were THAT goodIIRC it actually was cheaper than the Samsung I was going to buy as well, so I will sing their praises wherever I can now, I just hope they don't start shitting the bed like so many other companies do when they get popular
>>737313290Dont listen to this guy. ICC profiles are fine. Literally nobody can tell differences. And most monitors nowadays especially from known brands will have a standard of quality which will be generally universal. But even then you're not going to have some massive delta E error or whatever its called that an ICC profile won't refine. This is enthusiast shit for autists. For everyone else the windows HDR calibration and a ICC profile will get you to 99% the same perceptible image as if you calibrated it yourself.
>>737313697I haven't calibrated my TV for HDR desu and my monitor doesn't support it.Honestly, very few things look right in HDR, so I rarely use it.>>737313691oof
>>737314012It will generate a new one if you do that.
My main monitor is LG Electronics 24GM79G and it fucking blows, I can't configure it to look good at all
>>737313870NTA but I've used the Windows HDR calibration tool and it's fine....when it works, and by this I don't mean it will screw up your image or anything, I mean sometimes the fucking thing just doesn't launchbefore calibration I wasn't sure if it was even gonna do anything, and then after calibration I looked at my background picture and went "yeah OK that was worth it"
>>737314014Apparently TCL bought Samsung's VA manufacture.Sony's displays are also being made by TCL now
>>737314127All it did was make SDR content look better when HDR is enabled. It's almost useless to calibrate actualy HDR content.
>>737314021What's wrong with being autistic though? I paid money for the monitor/tv I want to get the most out of it. I also need colour accuracy for my job, and despite everything most of the time there are differences between my designs and what comes out of the print shop.
Never get a VA. I did. It does have its pros, especially after coming off of TN, but the built-in motion blur and the scrolling text quality are so shit. You are 100% better off with IPS even tho they have grey blacks.
>>737314190>All it did was make SDR content look better when HDR is enabled.That suits me fine, I leave HDR on, so it just means I'm going to get better colours regardless of what is being displayed, either I'm going to get unaffected native HDR from things made with it, or I'm going to get windows enhancing things that weren't made with itseems like a win/win?
>>737314190>It's almost useless to calibrate actualy HDR content.Yeah I found that in Cyberpunk, where it looked good with HDR on, but not quite right, like some things were too dark or too bright, then I saw that Cyberpunk had it's own HDR calibration tools in-game, and after adjusting them it was much better
>>737291339I game on VA/IPS. I never understood the hate for VA, looks fine to me. OLED is obviously superior thanks to my LG B4, but I don’t want the UI burning into my screen.
>>737291339IPS>b-but muh blacks muh HDRSorry don't care about a monitor that breaks itself in six months
>>737291339I got a second hand 27" screen recently to replace my old 22" and it's just too big. Gonna buy a new one and maybe up it to 24" at most.
>>737314487>I never understood the hate for VABlack crush, off-axis gamma shift - enough to see a difference from the centre of your monitor to the edges unless it's curved.And lots of blur in specific colour transitions - very noticeable with text scrolling and in games.It's good for consuming media though, thanks to the good static contrast. Back in the day a good VA monitor finally convinced me to give up on using a CRT.
>>737314317what is the model you posted?
>>737314317Its the gamma shift that does it for me with flat VA panels like that. Seeing the contrast of the font change within the same line of text is impossible to get used to.
>>737312086>>737313691I still use my 14 year old calibrated Dell IPS. If I put on a black picture fullscreen I see some slight glow on the 4 corners but nothing like that pic.You fags must be truly retarded
>>737314705Q27G3XMN It's well reviewed but I just really don't jive with VA.
>>737314386The SDR to HDR conversion on Windows is pretty shit so you're not getting accurate colors. The correct way is to go back to SDR and clamp the colors to sRGB on the monitor.
>>737299571Radiation makes you gay
>>737291339Two 1920x1200 IPS screens from around 2010. They just work. Maybe I'll upgrade some day. They are the oldest part of my setup.
>>737313978>turn 360 degrees x2 and walk away
>>737314665ive been using a 27" oled for 3 years. im still waiting for a 24" oled, apparently samsung has one coming next year.
>>737300134>Games still have a ton of aliasing,4k on a 23inch won't have much aliasing if at all. The problem here is increasing monitor resolutions comes with increasing the size so you barely get any improvement.
>>737315757>4k on a 23inch won't have much aliasing if at all.they will since games in the last 10 years or so have been built around taa or other temporal techniques. you turn it off you break half the visual effects."4k has no aliasing" is the biggest meme ive seen pushed by people who've never used 4k
>>737300134I'm not going past 1440.
>>737314965If your monitor isn't reporting wonky colours in its EDID turning on ACM will do a good job of clamping a wide gamut down to srgb for SDR content (i.e HDR disabled in windows).
isn't w11 supposed to automatically detect and turn on HDR? i have to manually activate it in re4
>>737315945I actually tried that but the colors look desaturated. I think it looks more natural clamping to sRGB. The reviews of my monitor also note that the sRGB emulation is very accurate.
>>737297581No. Hdr is such a chaotic mess right now. If you want to you can download software and tune it but that's up to you and not necessary
>>737316271DMC5 will activate HDR, even if you have is specifically disabled in Windows
HDR tuning makes me want to kill myself, this technology is fucking cursed. it *can* look incredible but that's if it works
>>737316370See I tried the same and there is no difference in colour...but there is a mismatch in gamma. This is expected as the srgb mode on my monitor uses the piecewise gamma whereas native full gamut uses 2.2 so ACM clamping gives me the 2.2 that is the defacto standard without the oversaturation.
>>737306218That's half the story, I tried an 1000 zone miniled once, it was good enough for media but the local dimming was completely unfit for normal desktop use. Inverse blooming was extremely noticable every time a dark window was on screen. If you go for significantly more than 1000 zones you are already in oled price range.
>>737318496oled price range with no burn in threatyou can have a fancy wallpaper you can play ASSFAGGOTS or mmos without worrying about a static hudmini LED also gets easily brighter for better HDR
>>737317874RTX HDR is pretty much a must for hassle free HDR and even then there is some AI fuckery afoot.
>>737317286Are you on W10? Seems a lot better with w11 but most of what i play is hdr native
>>737318847How the fuck do you even turn this on?
>>737318901Nvidia profile inspector revamped is the best tool for that, you can adjust all the settings there even for a global preset.
>>737313373I've got the 1440p panel and it's outrageous even compared my OLED TV. I went for it firstly because it's cheaper than comparable OLED monitors and secondly I was intrigued by the VESA1600 HDR label and it turned out great - essentially no visible black smearing using the default response time override and HDR with sustained 1600+ nits maintaining very dark blacks is something well worth the experience, although there are still halos around stuff like subtitles and UI elements.
>>737319004what's your monitor? I wanna look it up since you hyped it up a bit
I want to switch to OLED from TN but I have no idea how much I should pay to get a decent OLED monitor
>>737319209reed >>737319308
>>737295975i get that you can't afford a larger than 27" monitor, it's ok anon...
>>737319308r73q which is roughly the 1440p version of the 32R84
>download ICC HDR profile for my monitor>it resets my standard SDR settings even though I explicitly used the "use for HDR option"very cool!!
>>737319459Ah, I didn't read enough to notice yer talking about a VA panel. VA is not for me. Thanks tho.
>>737291339Got 2 VA 4Ks. They work well enough and didnt break the bank.
>>737291339I have no idea what kind of screen I have.
>>737291339i am used to ips i have tried va and i didnt like it the wobbly black colors made me feel weird
OLED SwitchOLED 'eckOLED TV for pc gamin'Wouldn't have it any other way
What site do I use for display info, now that rtings is paywalled?
>download special k to make all games run in HDR>it looks liker fucking shit lol
>>737299724I've been trying to find a 144hz 1440p display at a fair price. You're a godsend. This combo used to be easy to find and now it's all 680429hz 4k oled displays.
>>737314594it's ok Sandeep, OLED will make it to your village someday
>>737291339A CRT for standard def games (anything from generations 3 to 6), and a Plasma for everything else.
>>737291661You'll have to replace that OLED in 12 months. The IPS will last you a lifetime.They both have motion blur - and the CRT Beam Simulation shader isn't compatible with OLED.
>You'll have to replace that OLED in 12 months...did poors really fall for this or is it just cope
>>737325513it seems like they genuinely believe it, you see wildly differing numbers in every thread
>>737325736the funniest part isn't how far off their timeframe is, it's that even an OLED with burn-in mogs his IPS
>>737325809true, it's only good enough for a secondary monitor
All the cool 32 inches monitors are like China exclusive wtf
>>737318852Yes I haven't "upgraded" yet. I've heard w11 hdr is much better but still not perfect
mini led
>>737318847no point using this when renodx exists. looks way better as it injects native hdr and has no performance hit.rtx hdr is good for games that have no renodx mod but I dont like how whites go maximum brightness. stuff like ui, subtitles, white paper go maxxx nits.
>>737291339When will OLEDs become cheaper? I'm not paying that much for a disposable device.
>>737327490really motherfucker? see >>737311306
>"omg oled is the best thing ever, literally cannot switch back once you try it">can't even use your computer without the monitor completely collapsingimagine getting up to take a somewhat long shit or shower and your monitor breaks kek
>>737327627Goddam I hate my country.
>>737327743>>"omg oled is the best thing ever, literally cannot switch back once you try it"stopped reading there due to the sheer accuracy of the quote i felt too compelled to post in agreement
>>737325428>and the CRT Beam Simulation shader isn't compatible with OLED.>Best results on 240Hz+ OLEDs. Minimum native:simulated Hz ratio of 2:1. Recommended 4:1 or greater.
>Enterhttps://www.amazon.de/Samsung-ViewFinity-4K-Monitor-Setup-St%C3%A4nder-LS32D700EAUXEN/dp/B0D3F72X39
>>737328212lottes and ufo man doesn't know fucking anything
>>737314068>>737314068Ur so fucking stupid
>>737325428>12 monthsThe burn in is less visible than clouding that all ips and vas come with. Takes like 8 plus years of the same content to actually see it in normal use And no a cyan or magenta fullscreen isnt normal use.
>they fell for the oled meme
>>737331886The difference isnt something youll ever see unless you have them side by side. Also qdoleds in these comparisons are in the dim hdr1000 mode instead of trueblack500 and everyone knows the woleds are better for hdr brightness tjan any qdoled monitorAlso these minileds csnt get bright for small content
>>737291339TN
>>737300952>to be fair that only happens after 4hrsFucking normies
>>737331886>mini-led shill still seething
>>737332343just hit no
>>737332354Miniled "users" on here usually dont even have a miniled and when they do they usually refuse to say which
>>737332423And void your warranty lol.This shit is for Netflix and not games.
>>737300905>>737300952>>737332343>>737332423Just set it to 8 or 16h. Its only supposed to be used after youve been looking at a lot of static content. It also doesnt take 6min it takes 3min on most models which is taking a piss anf getting something from the fridge or a non issue for most people who have more than one display
>>737332642>void ur warrantyIf it voids warranty why do they have an 8 and 16 option in the osd? Youre just a retard
>>737331886i don't get this brightness shit. all my screens I've had on 20%~ brightness, the only time I have it on 100% is with hdr.why do you want eye searing brightness on sdr.
>>737311306>$500 because im canadian
>>737332642you clearly have no idea what pixel cleaning actually does
>>737333089>just kills your pixels faster to even out the wear lmao
>max reply oled shill threadip count was removed for threads like this
>>737333562and you're not going to loose anything, much less your warranty, if you skip out on it once
