You can create video game music, right anon?
>>737294375No, drawing is my creative outlet.How do musicians even make music? Like how do you even compose something that hasn't already been done to death?
>>737294375no, I make actual music.
Yeah. With AI. People literally cannot tell the difference unlike with images
>>737294431>Like how do you even compose something that hasn't already been done to death?you don't. the more you work in the industry the more you realize that most artists are just copying hacks and the rest is a solid marketing team.
>>737294431>drawinggive up
>>737294375No, I'm a completely worthless failure
>>737294469People with taste can. Are there online ones that are capable? If stationary, which ones deliver decent quality?
>>737294469Depends on the genre. Orchestral is surprisingly easy to pass off because even if it sounds bad you can just assume it's a cheap sampler being used or something. Ironically electronic music is the most detectable for AI because AI sucks at both high ends and low ends. High ends tend to sound static-y and low ends are uneven. It's really jarring to hear electronic sounds suddenly morph in sound quality over time.
>>737294508That's only an issue if you're trying to make a career out of it. I draw purely for pleasure and have never made a cent doing it.
HOW
>>737294431>Like how do you even compose something that hasn't already been done to death?There are no completely original ideas, in the same way that there's someone's art style or OC out there that looks identical to yours. And then something like pop music has extremely simple chord progressions so there tends to be more overlap.
are 7 key scales real or is working with all 12 fine if you are retard with no real direction and a pirated DAW?
>>737294769>Just make the music bro
>>737294375nah but i do make some synthpop from time to time
>>737294375I don't make my own but I remix video game OSTs when I make Youtube videos.
>>737294375i tried picking up FLstudio so many times but i CBA to learn the UI
>>737294375No. I'm musically retarded. I've tried making music, but it seems to require a sort of absolute precision to not sound like complete dog shit.
>>737294508Good goy.
>>737294375yes, but it's utter shit so i end up using dova-syndrome bgm
>>737294375YesHowever I have yet to make my gameI'll probably die from eating too much McDonald's before it happens
>>737294431By having good taste99.999 percent of humans have dogshit taste. Most not innovativePeople saying it's not possible are retarded
>>737294963Do whatever you want homie the chromatic scale is your oyster
>>737294431that's the neat part: They don't!
I made all the music for my omorashi gamehttps://canat-games.itch.io/cdm
>use FL Studio for 20 years>can't evolve past repeating loops and patterns with mild variation for a few minuteswelp
>>737300527have you actually learned the program or have you been using the same tiny subset of it for 20 years?
>>737294375yeah i use suno
>>737294375Yeah I'm making the music for my solodev game. And also for a bunch of fangames from this place.
>>737301359Got any tips? Can I make the first part of a song and based on that a second part?
>>737294431I just want to make more fake soundscapes or fun patches that sound neat. Not "proper music."Here, have some synthesized birds and crickets. https://vocaroo.com/17nqV1vi9rqU
>>737301435>Got any tips?Not really I'm just winging it.>Can I make the first part of a song and based on that a second part?Sure, why not?If I had to give a tip, mixing is important. Volume, equalizing, filters, that shit matters a lot. Try to avoid making it sound muddy or muffled unless that's the point. Keep a song you like handy and play it intermittently to see if it's mixed differently, if it is then adjust. Also, this is more specific to me but I've found that every instrument I've made sounds better if you slap a little vibrato on top. Just a pinch of it. Tiny amplitude.
>>737301636That's good enough. Ai or self made?
Is making game music a skill pretty much anyone can get *good* at if they grind? As in become the next Toby Fox or ZUN or whatever? Or is it a "you're either born with it or not" type of thing.I feel the good thing about drawing is that anyone can grind and become good at it. But music felt like you need inherent skill for it.
>>737301838>Volume, equalizing, filtersWhat is a track, but a miserable pile of secrets? Honesty aside, what are the elements of a track. When I see 5 or 7 graphs of a track, what's that? Baseline, base, chorus, melody. If I would know what these words mean, I could start making music.
>>737302139most of it is just putting in the time to practice and experiment. i'd say learning it when you're younger helps with improvising because you aren't worried about something sounding "right" and instead seek out a particular form of theme, like dark/light, uplifting/depressing, that comes with just either referencing songs you like and trying to play them with an instrument, or recompose them with a different type of groove with new accenting, but none of that is innate from birth.
>>737302139They're mostly the same skill-wise. Just like some people are better at visualizing and rotating shapes in their heads, some people are better at playing back melodies in their heads at the correct pitch and speed. But even if you can't do that, you can still make stuff. There's people who study anatomy and art fundamentals, and people who study music theory and music fundamentals, and there's people who don't do any of that shit and just wing it and it still turns out fine eventually.The main difference, I think, is that for music you need more than just the main program. You're gonna need to find the instruments too. I guess it would be the equivalent of finding brushes, except it's a lot more important.
>>737294431>how do you draw something? it's probably been drawn before no?
>>737302204I kinda know what some of those words mean but can't articulate it. I don't think it matters if you're not looking to teach someone else.
>>737296850shalom rabbi
>>737294431Simple>Look at something>Say it out loud, exactly what it is>"Big Blue Jacket">Keep saying it>Eventually you'll hear a "beat">Figure out what the notes might be or just try to replicate it yourself (takes some time, there might be a tool online that can figure out your voice if you speak into it and what note that might be)>Replicate it on a piano or any other tool>Repeat again>Eventually you'll have a bunch of beats, some that'll sound shit and some that'll sound interesting and you can mess around with them and see how to manipulate them into a trackYou won't make a masterpiece but you'll make soemthing
>>737301856Self made of course. Can't understand why anyone would pass off ai shit as "i made this"
Come now - get inspired by this self-taught Greek bastard and make music!You alone hold the 'keys to imagination"!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfc55oC_J38
>>737302614Maybe so. Just try to come with something up.
>>737301636Very nice. How does one into sound design? Really want to do some aesthetic sound effects for when I (surely, eventually) make my game.
>>737302759Very good. Way I see it, could slap it on aa games and I wouldn't be the wiser.
>>737295441Depends on what you're into. I couldn't get into "programming music" in FL Studio or trackers etc either. Found out about modular synths and VCV Rack. Which felt a lot easier and more playful to get into.
>>737294375I'll try putting time into it again once I'm back from vacation but if I still can't figure it out I'll probably just make do with my acapella recordings and mix them together a bit.
>>737294769Learn basic music theory, create arrangements of songs you like and while doing so try to analyze what makes those songs tick. Also pick up an instrument, keyboard is the easiest and most practical for game dev.
>>737300263Fucking kek.
>>737294431>Like how do you even compose something that hasn't already been done to death?why do you think there's so much seethe about AI "stealing" art? you're just arranging pieces that have been done before in your own way, you aren't actually making anything new
>>737303370Dunno, I just sit and twiddle knobs until I like the way it sounds. Or in the case of that, also listening to sounds and trying to understand what's going on. Couldn't get anywhere near a frog or crow kind of sound though.
>>737294375I can't work on this for long enough without getting physical fatigue from the abhorrent sounds I create
>>737302715>create a musical masterpiece by shouting "NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER"
>>737294431>Like how do you even compose something that hasn't already been done to death?Listen to and learn to appreciate as wide a variety of music as possible. Then when it comes time to create, glue disparate elements of different music you like together in a haphazard fashion. The more music you listen to the more pieces you have access to in your toolkit and the less likely that the pattern you end up with is the same as someone else's. People who create cliche music are people who only listen to one genre, absorb the cliches of that genre and regurgitate them in an incestuous fashion. Also, I should emphasize the "haphazard" part. Don't copy your inspirations perfectly, because then it becomes plagiarism. Ideally, you should copy the lingering remnants that are floating in your memory without studiously checking to make sure everything matches up. You say something like "Remember that cool synth part at the beginning of Baba O'Reilly? I should make something like that." Then you just make a cool synth part that reminds you of it without going back and listening to the song itself, just use your vague memory of what it sounds like. Then you get https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFbH6LmYb8Y Only after you've finished go back and check to make sure you didn't copy it too closely. If it's too similar tweak it more until it feels novel.
>>737298429>Do whatever you want homieback when i was beginning to learn, this answer would always piss me off.no, you can't "do whatever you want." there are rules.this is doing whatever you want:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sC0cvwnG0Ik
>>737304286Copying a certain genre to make it sound correct is the most soul draining activity possible. No idea why either, there are genres I would love to make. It just sucks all the fun out of it.
>>737294375>>>/mu/
>>737304515It's soul draining because it's soulless. Don't do it. Copy things haphazardly. Copy one cool element about something you like and say fuck the rest, I'll make it up or copy something else. This is how new genres are born.
>>737304287no, that would be you being legally deafbut it's ok, there is always audience for your sound, you might invent a new genre on the way
I can't even whistle
>>737304745> there is always audience for your soundsure, if you don't mind being JustinRPG.but if you'd rather not be stuck in Lugia's stomach alone, you've got to learn the rules.
>>737304281unironically, it workshttps://voca.ro/1kYahQaYptoG
>>737306312Is that spyro soundfonts? Good job, nigger.
>>737304598>Obstinate shitposters and defenders of true (their preferred) music
>>737306393CTR, actually.Give me something to work with and I'll experiment.
>>737306312sounds good
>>737294431My creative outlet is imagining things I lack the skill to make.
