You had to be there lil zoom zoom

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>>737295231
>you had to be the-
no, you have to conform to me you disgusting fucking millenishart. I will not allow the lowest cattle generation of all human kind to speak like this, didn't you go die in 2 different sandbox countries because daddy bush said so? go do it again millenicuck.

>>737295194
I think it was because it was the first "cockfight RPG" game that was properly localized and brought to the west.

>>737295283
Well pardon us Mr gucci loafers

>>737295194
it's really simple, DQV didn't release in the west so westerners had no antibodies to monster rpgs. the virus swept through the population like wildfire after a month without rain and endless tinder production, they never had a chance

>>737295194
God-tier soundtrack, monster design, atmosphere. And yes the anime was THAT popular. Everyone wanted a Pikachu of their own yet alone the cool creatures like Charizard.

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>>737295194
Is it really worth that much?

>>737295231
I hate this answer so much. There are clearly better RPGs during that time.

>>737295438
i mean they didn't make many pokemon daisuki club special editions of consoles

>>737295494
And there's better shooters than fortnite but that certainly hasn't stopped the zoomers and gen alphas from going bananas over it
every generation gets its "you had to be there at the right age" moment

>>737295194
The fact that it was so basic was part of its mass appeal. They designed 151 cool monsters and let you battle with them.
Also, the bugs simply weren't noticeable to kids who simply played the game back in the day. That's some YouTube essay revisionist shit. And the few that did get noticed became part of its mythology, like surfing at the edge of Cinnabar Island to get infinite items.

>>737295494
Yeah but they didn't have an absolute media maelstrom to get you hyped and be in the best state of mind to enjoy the games to ludicrous degree, especially with playground gossip about secrets, trading with friends, etc.

>>737295194
Anime was made after the games were popular, we've been over this.

>>737295194
>Buggy as fuck, borderline unplayable mess of code
The word you're looking for is "sovlfvl"

>>737295418
The one thing I can admit is that the music is amazing. Some of the best 8 bit music I've ever heard

>>737295194
Even just a fraction of Michael's power was enough

https://youtu.be/OBBNORE4mR4?si=jxIJr1qGqaAyTV6k

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>>737295194
>Buggy as fuck, borderline unplayable mess of code
This isn't true, and I don't understand why it keeps being parroted.
I've played the original Gameboy titles yearly for 2 decades, and I have NEVER ran into any bugs or glitches that I did not purposely try for.

>>737295194
I remember finding the little pamphlet when I was like 2 years old. I think we were moving into a new house that was empty, and it was on a VHS rack for some reason. It had Geodude and some other Pokemon standing in the background. I explicitly remember showing my parents, and them saying something about "Poe-kee-man"

It's a fun memory I have.

>>737295494
This kind of doesn't matter. Children at the time didn't know what an RPG was. Parents didn't even know. Your dad/mom went to the store, saw that everyone else was buying the fun little game thing, and it's got cute monsters on it, so that's what they got for you.

Hell, my dad had an original black and white GameBoy, with a stupid carry case and game storage and everything.

>>737295494
And how many were on GBC?

There had never been a game of that scale on a portable console before

>>737295194
>Buggy as fuck, borderline unplayable mess of code
You have to go out of the way to witness most of them

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>>737295283
>>737295194
I think you're a faggot and should kill yourself

>>737295654
>Also, the bugs simply weren't noticeable to kids who simply played the game back in the day.
This

No one knew the extent of the bugs till many years later

>>737295283
deranged cunt

>>737295283
bodied that unc cuck

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>>737295194
Marketing, kid.

>>737295194
It’s a prime case of “right place at the right time” situation

>>737295194
The Gameboy was so old and cheap that everyone had one, the simplicity made it easier to get into for younger and casual audiences than console RPGs, the monster designs were really charming and monster capturing games weren't really present in the west the same way they were in Japan. The universal appeal, novelty factor and massive install base made it an instant hit.

Its also hard to understate how saturated the whole kids market was with Pokemon shit. It was the biggest toy of the year, the biggest game, the biggest card game and the biggest show. No matter what form of entertainment you were into you were getting blasted with Pokemon advertisements. The multimedia enterprise that Japan slowly built over 2 years or whatever all came over here simultaneously, and that synergy worked so well they still exploit it with every new generation. Its part of why Gamefreak rushes these things out these days, they can't delay a Pokemon game or it hurts all their other business partners.

>>737295494
>There are clearly better RPGs during that time.
Which are kid friendly, easily available to children, and part of a cultural zeitgeist?
>Final Fantasy were Mana games, not Final Fantasy, and Final Fantasy was not the cultural juggernaut until 7. Prior to that it was mostly niche.
>Heracles no Eikou was Japan-only and niche.
>SMT (Another Bible) was Japan-only outside of Demi Kids and Demi Kids was unbelievably niche and also GBC.
>Dragon Quest was unbelievably niche and also GBC.
>Medarot as a whole was extremely niche and just trying to get off the ground while also only releasing nearly two years after Pokemon.
>SRW was not only niche, but clearly intended for a slightly older audience that grew up with many of the mech shows, not children.
>Magi Nation was GBC and happened years later.
>Bistro Recipe was not only niche, but Japanese only and GBC and WS only.
>Telefang was GBC, came out after the fact, Japan only, and had its reputation drug through the mud in the west with Pokemon Diamond and Jade.
>Bugsite was GBC, came out after the fact, and Japan only.
There was nothing for kids in that time period. Everything you can think of that's popular on the NES would be considered for teens, niche, or Japan only. Anything you can think of for the SNES would be considered mostly niche until later on in its lifespan.

>>737295494
Those other rpgs don’t let you bring them to school and trade your party members and fight with other kids. And even if none of you had a link cable it was still a perfect game for kids to play while gathered together and anyone without a Gameboy felt left out.

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>>737295283
>t. cultureless zoomie
You even use our memes frfr tbqhwyfamalamadingdong
Lurk moar

>>737295194
There was a certain something to it. Having Digimon and to a lesser extent Yu-Gi-Oh as competition helped, it had something to offer for everyone, cool mons, cute mons, secret mons...
This was also YEARS before every big IP got a wild marketing and merchandising budget, and with trading/ battling as a prominent feature, it felt like a single player game with "multiplayer" injected here and there so your friends at recess could share similar, yet different experiences
The anime and trading cards didn't hurt either
>>737295231 oversimplified it, but this Anon isn't wrong

>>737295194
A filthy porch monkey can't comprehend the greatness of Pokémon.
Common core has failed you, Tyrone.

>>737295985
Most of the bugs will go unnoticed by a casual player because they require fairly intimate knowledge of the game to even notice or perform.
>A 100% accuracy move misses at a 1/256 chance.
>Badge boosts stop being applied on level up.
>If you use a stat increasing move or the opponent uses a stat lowering move it grants you all the status buffs of your badges until you level up in battle meaning an opponent using Leer after you beat Blaine now means you are granted an omniboost minus what the Leer did.
>If you pause and dig/fly away on the same frame when you are noticed by a trainer you break the game.
>OHKO moves don't work if you are slower than the target even if you hit the accuracy check.
>Speed determines critical hits which means Pokemon like Victreebel crit 100% of the time.
>Razor Leaf and Karate Chop crit 100% of the time if you have a speed past like 40.
Just stuff like that. Missingno is only the most commonly known one because of schoolyard rumors and the very early GameFAQs talking about it. It requires way too many specific steps to even work and if you catch one it doesn't even work without corrupting your save unless you've already seen a Marowak.

>>737295494
Name 1 with the cool anime about adventuring airing in literally every TV around the world during the time. Only Digimon and the Tamagotchis got any close to Pokemon's level. Another similar case is with Yu-Gi-Oh! and games like Forbidden Memories, you barely had other options until the Western PC games released.

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>>737295194
>>Basic bitch RPG
>>Buggy as fuck, borderline unplayable mess of code
>>Kicks off the pokemon craze for millennials
Yeah. I just beat the Elite Four in Pure RGB. It's fucking great. I still have like 12 pokemon I need to get to fill the dex and then like 13 trainers to defend my title as champion from. Since games from your era are shit I may only play pokemon romhacks and start making my own. It's the tiniest of tweaks like making certain pokemon have a unique subtype and making moves work the way they are supposed to which make it all the more fun. If I'm lazy I can always level any favorite pokemon to level 100 and play it like an 8 year old.

>>737295194
Play other Gameboy RPGs and it'll be pretty fucking obvious why it was a hit.

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>>737295283
actually not really, I was surprised enlistment didn't explode after 2001

>>737295194
>>737295494
Pokemon is way better designed and full of genuine depth than something like Chrono Trigger. You guys are massively downplaying how good the games legitimately are, because you mistake the surface complexity that other RPGs try to project for substance. You can't play Final Fantasy and collect hundreds of different characters that you can actually use to trade fight against other players. Instead you just level up enough that you can heal fast enough do enough attacks to whittle down the HP of whatever you're facing. Pokemon avoids that problem and reaches beyond that model.

>>737296426
>And how many were on GBC?
There was like five or six Dragon Quest games on GBC specifically.

>>737299938
only competitively, really
just leveling up your starter is good enough for every pokemon game

>>737295194
Pokemon was the first real social video game, that's why it got popular. The multimedia push with the cartoon, cards, and merchandise helped but it was the game you saw everyone else playing at recess so you bought it so you could play to.

Kids loved multiplayer in person games back then, being able to do that at school or on the train was insane at the time so everyone was all about it, being able trade and battles with others were extraordinarily novel. In Japan, Monster Hunter got extremely popular because it was a social game as well, the kids would play MonHun with each other all the time on portables.

>>737300105
>only competitively, really
You're downplaying how interesting it is to just explore the game and discover stuff while trying to complete your dex. Even if you just blast shit with your started and never look into what depth it has, just going around figuring how to catch and use various Pokemon and seeing what is possible is really compelling in a way that moviegame RPGs mostly just aren't. It also really helps that it makes amazing use of the Gameboy's soundchip. It's definitely up there where RPGs peak.

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>>737295494
Yeah theres better music than the shit you listen to like Mozart but sometimes what I want to listen to is some Nu-metal and do drugs and shoot aliens instead of playing autere games for intellectuals and RPGS with 300 systems.
Pokemon OG was rock paper scissors gun and that was fun

>>737300304
>It also really helps that it makes amazing use of the Gameboy's soundchip.
Not really no. The melody is good but technically unimpressive.
https://youtu.be/CHLsolltIJ8

>Basic bitch RPG
It's a game for kids, retard.
At least at the time it was target to kids, but now those fucking retards "grew up" and you still can't expect much that it will always be a simple RPG target to kids in essence.

>>737300304
mostly speaking to the complexity of the gameplay, but yes collecting creatures is awesome

secret of mana similarly was cool with how much you could mix and match stuff

Eternal proof that ambition > perfection

>>737295494
Do you think that there was some kind of catalog of every video game ever made back then? You played what they had at the store. If all the store had was Pokemon, you better bet your ass you were playing Pokemon.

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>>737295194
You should've already figured it out from your own image OP.
The games look cool.

>>737295194
>WAHHHHHHHHHHH I CANT THINK OF ANY LEGITIMATE CRITICISMS OF THE POPULAR AND SUCCESSFUL THING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>MY IDEAS ARE BAD AND I DON'T WANT TO ADMIT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>737295494
Oh yeah? What better RPGs?
By the way dragon quest and final fantasy are fucking disgusting boomer shit without hot chicks so they don't count.
If they can't do the absolute minimum by having appealing art styles and appealing women then they don't deserve to be in the conversation.

>>737295283
Little bro still hasn't realized that being younger inherently makes it lesser and it's wants meaningless. You only have a few more years to figure out how the world works.

>>737300249
Monster hunter: WORD is better because it has superior graphics.

wow you mean rock paper scissors was more popular and memorable and cute animals are cute?

>>737295194
>how in the holy fuck did pokemania even happen?
It was before social media. Before the internet was even widespread at all, let alone online videogames or social apps
This meant that kids actually spent time in-person. And the gameboy and pokemon were cheap. So the kids played them together. Next to each other. Side by side.
And the games allowed you to trade pokemon. Even if not every kid had a link cable, you all just needed one kid who did and borrowing it for a minute allowed everyone to be able to trade pokemon and acquire the pokemon they hadn't been able to find or get themselves, or the pokemon that the kids insisted were better or better trained somehow.
It was an easy smash hit, where kids tried to find all the pokemon. Figure out all the hidden mechanics. And share them with each other.
That alongside the anime, which was immensely popular. And it was no wonder pokemania started. Which birthed toys and merch which strengthened pokemania even further.

>>737295194
The simple answer: it was an RPG for mouthbreathers, made to be so simple and approachable to people who've NEVER played one before. 90's RPGs still had the stigma of being "nerd shit" thanks to a lot of them trying to emulate tabletop mechanics and/or chasing the hardcore gaming types via super involved dungeon crawling and brutal combat encounters.

Pokemon solved that by unironically making Shin Megami Tensei for Retards, the edges were softened, the scope limited and the difficulty hammered out [and yet kids still got hardlocked at Brock by choosing Charmander or Pikachu] and when you combine that with a more personalized team customization experience, you print money.

>>737301068
The problem is pokemon haters refuse to accept that the core principle of pokemon being battling a lot of pokemon, catching a lot of pokemon, and trading a lot of pokemon

>>737301183
Yeah and SMT is rightfully dead. Maybe they should make it not fucking ugly next time.

>>737295194
people like to collect things its not that deep

>>737295194
it actually wasn't popular in japan until like 2 years after when people found out mew existed. it's like a combination of
>handheld
>gotta catch em all
>everyone else had it and was into it
>the story is fucking GOAT with you playing as a kid your age, maybe slightly older basically going on an adventure by yourself and there are enough mystery things and hooks to make you explore and get engrossed in the world
honestly it probably benefitted a lot from the lack of internet access, especially on the go, most people had and the fact it was a long ass game for the GB at the time. Like if you were a parent you could just buy your kid this and a GB and get them to not be annoying in public and you didn't really need to also buy a more expensive console or something

>>737295194
they were the biggest, most ambitious games on the original gameboy
great creature designs that still haven't been topped
modern urban setting was very unique for rpgs back then, not basic bitch at all
100s of options for party members which gives the games amazing replay value

>>737295194
it was actually innovative and you are ignoring the integral multiplayer aspect. the whole joke about status effects not working on bosses in JRPGs doesn't apply to pokemon because it was designed as a pvp system where everyone plays by the same ruleset
I also really like the ruleset personally

>>737301068
It's crazy how certain things just spread through word of mouth like the Missingno glitch or Mew under the truck. I guess it could've been someone's older brother with internet access but that wasn't very common back then

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>>737295751
In the US, The anime aired September 7, 1998
Pokemon Red/Blue released September 28, 1998
There was a whole marketing campaign. My friend got this VHS before it all came out and we were hyped
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7JRUUx6efI

>>737295194
Isn't it amazing how these are still the best Pokémon games to date?

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>>737295194
you just had to be there
>getting this bad boy on your gameboy with no backlight
>play under the blanket with a flashlight
>talk with the bros at school about mew under the truck
>come home after school to watch the show on tv
>get the card packs with the boys during summer and trade
shit was cash money, you wouldn't get it

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>>737304236
And by these obviously I meant gen 3 I forgot to post the pic haha

>>737304104
This is why Pokemon discussion sucks in the West people can’t see it as “just a video game” it has to be an anime simulator

>>737295231
Fpbp

>>737300083
Yeah and they all came out after pokemon and one of them is literally a pokemon clone

>>737295194
>Was the anime that popular?
Yes, it was on Cartoon Network after school hours. The games were fun, but ir wasn't just the games carrying it. It was the perfect storm.

>>737295194
As everyone else said, it was the perfect storm of kino. If you didn't play gen 1 and 2 back then, you'll never experience it how they were.

>EVERYONE is playing Pokemon in some capacity
>trading and battling with whomever
>everyone sharing tips and secrets, of course with "that kid" in the mix that would just make shit up to fit in
>internet wasn't completely sanitized and globalized, so there were rumors galore for gen 2 that we hadn't gotten yet
>Stadium 1 and 2 perfectly complement each gen, so you can battle, trade, store Pokemon and items, get Pokemon as prizes that you'd normally have to trade for or start a new save, etc.

>>737308701
Yea anyone who was in school at the time knows.
EVERYONE was talking about it
Legit phenomenon

I will give props to Gen 3 for the secret bases and shit. I was amazed when I linked with someone and then everyone they had linked with suddenly had secret bases in my game, and I could just battle them everyday and check out their bases.

>>737295194
>Basic bitch RPG
It's actually a really good RPG, and by far the best portable RPG of its time.

Pokemon did two things right no other monster RPG seems to get:
1. Monsters aren't super disposable and constantly being traded/fused/dropped for stronger ones so you can build up an attachment to a monster that's been in your party for a long time
2. The power scaling between monsters isn't so out of control that you can reasonably complete the vanilla games using your favorites instead of optimizing for a strong team

>>737298831
You can always tell someone is talking about games from before they were born when they ask people why they liked it more than a game for a more expensive piece of hardware released four years later.

>>737295194
>Basic bitch RPG
how many JRPGs had a phase based combat system with huge priority depth? it's still one of the best RPG combat systems out there

>>737295283
>didn't you go die in 2 different sandbox countries because daddy bush said so?
Now YOU get to do it for "God Emperor Trump," little Broccoli.

Different versions with different pokemon was genius. You get the rich kids buying both versions and the poor kids buying the version their friend didn't have to be able to trade over unique pokemon. Whoever thought that idea up deserves a nice retirement holy shit.

>>737309741
How many have elemental affinity systems that have any more depth than "it does 2x, 1x, or .5x"? Or an open structure for mid game? Or clear cues for where random encounters begin and end? Or built in randomized substats that make each of your units feel unique? A game-long B plot the game never spells out for you?

G1 is incredible for its time.

>>737295194
Because your first two lines of greentext are flagrant lies. Making even a simple RPG where literally every enemy is a usable party member is far above "basic bitch" even now, much less 30 years ago. And most of the bugs are only apparent with knowledge of how the game is "supposed" to work brought from future gens.

>>737295194
>>737295283
You have to consider the fact that this was at a time when monsters with powers/abilities weren't really much of a thing, let alone for a kid to self insert as a Pokemon trainer with pets that can fight and stuff plus adding to the fact kid trainers can defeat adult trainers so has more of an even playing field aspect. And while gen 1 has some very lazy designs *cough* Seal *cough* Voltorb *cough* it just still overall has some really popular Pokemon designs to this day.

>>737310335
*animals with powers/abilities

>>737295231
I was there and it sucked if you were over 13.
Back then we already had Wild Arms, Grandia...

>>737295194
The games were good the Gameboy was the only real handheld and there wasn't a lot of competition, but it was the TV show primarily to start with I remember seeing the first episode air as a kid and immediately thinking it was the best thing ever

>>737295194
You have to compare it to other games on the gameboy. A lot of kids didn't have access to a playstation or super nintendo. There are very few games on the original gameboy that has the scope of pokemon. Plus all the extra merch like the cards and the anime were marketed very heavily.

>>737310714
Of course, lest someone claim the games were pure shit and Pokemania was carried by everything else, we can't forget that the games predate literally every form of tie-in media in Japan. The anime only happened because the games sold like hotcakes and took over the culture with minimal advertising.

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>*kills your Pokemania*
nothin personell kid

>>737310848
Pretty sure the show aired and blue/red released at basically the same time in the west and most kids would have seen the show first

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>>737311083
Nice try

>>737311136
This is true in the west, that's why I specified the games came first by a wide margin in Japan. To make it clear that Pokemon was a hit no matter what your first exposure was and not because the anime was good and the games were shit.

>>737311083
I completely missed the boat on harry potter. While other kids were reading it, I was fully into star wars

>>737311083
girls and boys, different audiences (yes Harry Potter is for girls, sorry if you just learned you were the gay kid)

Pokemania was killed by gen 3 taking fucking forever to come out and being underwhelming and cheap looking

>>737311256
Retarded on two counts
Pokemania died because people who were willing to put aside that it was a video game stopped being willing to put that aside

>>737295231
they won't get it and it's hilarious

>>737311209
Even the worst of the EU is better than anything Harry Potter.

>>737310481
>Me when I was 15, playing Grandia with my bros during lunch break
Things that totally happened prior to the release of the PSP.

You thought it was gay because it was cute and Japanese, be real.

>>737311195
tbf the Pokemon anime blew 90s Saturday morning cartoon blocks the fuck out, of course kids would go crazy for it.

>>737300774
I don't remember the sprites looking like that? That from Gen 1?

>>737311256
Nah, that's more so on gen 2 given the useless adding to the roster baby mons and just overall most of Johto mons being useless compared to Kanto mons. Plus Crystal just wasn't all that good as it is the weakest of the 3rd versions, doesn't really do all much different from Gold and Silver compared to the others.

>>737311507
>playing video games during lunch break
Forbidden in Europe.

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>>737295194
>Was the anime that popular?
Yes.
However, I'd say the biggest enabling factor has to be Pikachu. Moms loved Pikachu and thought it was the cutest thing ever, so anything with Pikachu in it was okay to be bought.

>>737311582
I think it aired on Kids WB?
At the time my parents didn't have cable so I remember I wasn't able to watch the anime. Sucked
I did have a Super Gameboy so I played the crap out of Red on that

>>737295283
Lol enjoy dying in the middle east XD
You wouldn't understand because you were born into a culture of post irony, so all you have to look back fondly on will be vine, pozzed youtube and eating tide pods

>>737301183
>Japanese soldier who doesn't realize "smt games are hard" meme died like 10 years ago

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>>737295194
The concept of catching and battling monsters is just really strong. A whole world out there to explore and it’s filled with all sorts of creatures to find, capture, train, and battle.
It also helps that the first 150 Pokemon have great designs. Simple yet appealing.

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Anyone got these as a kid?
It was great

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>>737311658
There's also the fact the anime during Johto was when the anime was slipping from how long it took to get from place to place with too much annoying filler.

>>737295194
>Games marketed towards children
>Bunch of monsters
>Cool one for boys, cute ones for girls
>Emphasis on trading with friends
>Release tons of merch
>Release cartoon
>Release movie

It's the Star Wars formula. Designed to sell toys and capture a generation early. It worked because it's the most successful video game franchise is history. Doesn't matter if the games were buggy or whatever else you were seething about. They were fun at the time. The glitches were not that common and the games were very playable if you were a child fucking around before the Internet. You really did have to be there.

>>737295231
OP got destroyed.

>>737312304
And the narrator having to say at the end of every episode for the road to Goldenrod City was real repetive... it took the group so incredibly long to finally get there.

>>737295194
The games weren't the main force behind the franchise. They were decent enough for gameboy games, but the anime is what fed people's imaginations and pulled people into the craze.

>Watch the anime for the first time at like 7am before school
>it’s the episode where Ash is gonna leave pikachu in the forest with all the other pikachu
>wonder if this shit is always so sad

>nobody realizes marketing spam only started after pokemon took off as an unexpected hit in japan

>>737311652
yeah japanese gen1

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>>737312153
There are archives of these old magazines.
https://www.retromags.com/magazines/usa/beckett-pok%C3%A9mon-collector/

>>737295654
>the bugs simply weren't noticeable to kids who simply played the game
We knew about them, but we still loved the games regardless.

>>737309617
I'm pretty sure you're not really supposed to get attached to your party in SMT or Monster Rancher. Maybe Medabots.
Digimon fucked up by having incredibly complex evolution trees that don't really link stages logically while the anime has a very simple evolution line with designs that somewhat match.

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>>737295194
Despite what many would believe, the videogames were actually a minority to the reasons Pokemania happened.
Anyone who's claiming the videogames really were all that wasn't actually there, you'd know the marketing was most concerned with pushing the idea of a cartoon about this 10 year old boy Ash Ketchum's upcoming Pokemon journey and the existence of a Trading Card Game, while the videogames were secondary to their approach.
The success of the games was a happy bonus when it reached the kids who had Gameboys and hadn't yet used up their "MOM I WANT THIS" quota on something else, but ALL the buzz was about that damn satanic cartoon and those damn addictive cards.

>>737314124
Yeah but they wouldn't have pushed if the game didn't sell in Japan, which didn't have an extensive marketing campaign at first. So it was about the games by proxy. Americans having no taste is a different issue altogether thoughbeit

Bump

>>737295654
>That's some YouTube essay revisionist shit
This always bothered me too, since 90% of the time they just mean "the AI is primitive and stats are kind of unbalanced" which aren't even bugs.
Any bug that meaningfully affects the game requires super-precise sequences of inputs. People acting like you had Missingno glitch city noclipping shit happening during a casual playthrough are liars.

>>737295194
1) It was on GB. The GB was *extremely* limited and pokémon was kinda in the top percentile of GB games in term of content & complexity. It wasn't competing with Mario RPG or FF7, it was competing with Battletoad, Tetris and a plethora of crappy licensed games.
2) It's a monster catcher, a genre that was virtually unknown before. And it came with a fucking cartoon with a killer intro.
3) Most bugs you would never encounter. The only two I ever did was missingo along the volcano shore (and it was a "how fucking neat, I can get weird lvl255 pokémons!") and the one where you fly away mid-trainer-exclamation-and-attack (and it was a "how fucking neat, I might get fucking Mew and the pokémons from the other version that way!").

Player choice and player connectivity.
You pick your Pokemon out of 150 options. The designs can appeal to everyone, nothing too cute or too edgy. Story is mostly open ended and lets you do stuff out of sequence. Kids share their stories with each other, and playground mythology spreads.
You really did have to be there to understand.>>737295231

>>737295494
No there fucking weren't

I want a Pokémon region I can call home.

I'm looking for
>a region that's a real hell for Fairy-type Pokémon
>a region where having a Fairy-type Pokémon on your team is the worst idea ever
>a region with very few Fairy-type Pokémon
>a region with many Steel-type, Fire-type, and Poison-type Pokémon
>a region where the Pokémon on the cover are resistant and effective against Fairy-type Pokémon

>>737318008
i'm noticing a pattern here

>>737295283
>Nothing exists within the context of when it was made
Yeah anon people were just blown away by multi-track recording techniques in the 60s because they were retarded, not because it was a new technology that opened up new possibilities for what artists could record

>>737295194
It was released at a time when games were more of a bouncing off point for your imagination, before realism took over. The graphics were so basic that you couldn't simply leave it at that; your mind filled in the blanks to turn a black and white buggy game into a full blow world. You read the manual, you caught the monsters, you chatted with your friends about your favourites. Rumours spread about where you could get certain things - true or not - and they fuelled the collective minds of millions of children.
Games nowadays give so much that your imagination never once needs to be tested. You are told via every sense exactly what is happening at any given moment. Once that happens, the wonder is lost. And because we're all lazy bastards, it's almost impossible to go back.

>>737295494
>There are clearly better RPGs during that time.
Did those RPGs let me raise a fucking dragon to racket other kids?
No? Then their existence was irrelevant to me wanting to play Pokémon.

Also I was just playing BG1 and Fallout1 on my PC, then Pokémon on my GB.
You can play more than one game, you know.

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>>737295194
POKEMON WAS A RELATIVELY FLESHED OUT RPG FOR AN EARLY PORTABLE CONSOLE THAT KIDS COULD UNDERSTAND AND ENCOURAGED SOCIALIZATION VIA TRADE AND BATTLING MECHANICS. AT THE TIME OF ITS RELEASE THE GAME BOY WAS AN EXTREMELY POPULAR CONSOLE AND THERE WASN'T MUCH LIKE IT ON THAT SYSTEM. THE DRAGON QUEST PORTABLE GAMES CAME LATER AND WERE RELEASED ON THE GAME BOY COLOR, POKEMON RED, BLUE, GREEN, AND YELLOW WERE GAME BOY GAMES THAT COULD BE PLAYED ON A GAME BOY COLOR.

>>737318008
Well I have excellent news for you then, the region you want is super easy to get to and really close, it's called the closet

>>737295194
Pikachu being an absolute dick in the first episode was enough to make that universe stand out really hard compare to the usual kid cartoons in that TV slot.

>>737318390
>You can play more than one game, you know.
To zoomongs who only know live service games, that probably is a revelation

>>737296426
Zelda LA was on GB, and way better as an RPG than Pokémon.
Wasn't the same genre at all tho. Unless you count that one sequence where you have the giant pet dog follow you around.

>>737297215
Marketing doesn't do miracles from nothing.
See Concord.

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>>737295231
Based.
Zoomers mind are so broken they can't fathom the world was a better place before they were born.

>>737311652
Western Gen1 is actually a special edition. Some sprites got re-done, and some parts of the map too.

>>737295194
> Was the anime that popular?

Kek, the anime happened because the game was popular.
People had to connect and exchange Pokemons with each other. The fact that some unique Pokemons are exclusive to another version and that you couldn't have either starter besides the one you chose.
It was truly unique and it will never happen again.
Sorry you missed out.

>>737295231
FPBP

>>737295194
The game is simply that great.
>>737295231
Not really. You play it now and it's still amazing.

>>737295654
>Also, the bugs simply weren't noticeable to kids who simply played the game back in the day.
There's a lot of bullshit moments in fights explained by a few niche bugs. Game is still fun, but "you didn't even notice!" is bullshit. Kids were just bad at articulating the problems. That's why Gen 2 was such a big deal; on top of the new content and rebalancing, all the stupid little edge case bugs were fixed.

>>737295494
There aren't even better rpgs today.

>>737295654
>>737295194
I don't know a single person that cares about bugs in games outside of /v/.

>>737295494
Can those JRPGs duel and trade on a handheld?

>>737295283
I don’t care what you think, I would be happy if you died gruesomely.

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>>737319974
>outside of /v/.
And /an/

>>737295283
>you have to conform to-
I dont have to do SHIT you dumb little bitch lmao. Also your ass is getting drafted, not millenials. Dont worry, its not like any of you soft cucks are breeding anways

>>737320062
Kill them with fire

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>>737295194
It was a 90s game made by a big kid for boys anon not that hard to comprehend. People forget those Tamogatchis and the Furby craze prepped all us 90s kids for it, just about every 90s kid had a bag of marbles that you would battle and trade with other boys and collect, same with just about anything (Pogs, Toysets, comics, Sports Cards) 90s kids like myself were always big collectors. I remember I had a huge pearlescent boulder with little small plastic rock spikes I won from a lucky shot in recess now that I think about it, really matches the aspect of throwing a pokeball

There was a thread on /vp/ about this and this anon really captured the sentiment with pic related im trying to express, most 90s kids were Latchkey kids and the idea of being out and exploring on your own was not foreign to us, we explored many places around town with our bikes and friends and only had to be back home before the streetlights came on. I remember being outside most summers from morning to night playing, wandering, getting into trouble. It resonated deeply with alot of us who were already independent of parents and naturally had a sense of adventure. I still like going to a random place in the city just to wander and loiter about. Its also nice finding secret spots in town most people dont really go to, kinda like a secret hideout for yourself.


Last but not least the monsters and the world was cool. Sure the Jigglypuff and Clefable line were there but most of the monsters were made to appeal to kids who liked cool shit. Thugs, Bikers, Punks and Gamblers, Scientists with hidden secrets, an old man peeping into an all girls gym, just akot of hijinks you would find boys and guys getting themselves into during the course of the game.

Btw this sentiment is right>>737318008 naming it Fairy instead of something masculine like Mystic or even Cosmic was a silent statement that they were moving away from the core principles that got them to where they are

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>>737319564
>Kek, the anime happened because the game was popular.
>Pokémon Red and Blue were released in North America on September 28, 1998, for the Game Boy. The English dub of the Pokémon anime series premiered in America shortly before, on September 8, 1998.
???

>>737295194
Name another monster tamer exploration game at the time that was remotely comparable.
Thats it. Thats literally the reason.

>>737320125
This nigga know his typechart.

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>>737295194
>>Basic bitch RPG
Wrong, nothing else played like it
>>Buggy as fuck, borderline unplayable mess of code
Wrong, almost no one encountered bugs unless they went out of their way to find them
>>Kicks off the pokemon craze for millennials
Yes, whats your point

>how in the holy fuck did pokemania even happen?
Because the concept was novel and extremely appealing even today, raising a team that felt it was unique to you and you actually cared about the creatures as they grew stronger, you were no longer the hero with the sword you were just a kid raising dogs to fight, and it was and still is fucking amazing
Now choke on my cock you shitposter nigger

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>>737295283
>t. Zoomzoom that doesn’t know about flashcarts
Again, teenagers should be born in prison and have to fight for their freedom. Also this a board for videogames, go back to /int/, /bant/, or /pol/, you lepers need to stay in quarantine.

>>737320243
I used to know it
but with so many Pokemon and now 2nd typing I can't remember all that shit

Remove Fairy typing from pokemon

>>737312153
damn that art is nightmare fuel. well at least its on par with 90s shit.

>>737320329
As an Azumarril user: fuck you

>borderline unplayable
I played it just fine.

>>737320175
>America
???
>First Pokemon games release February 1996
>Anime begins airing in April 1997

>>737320717
zoomers have watched too many youtube videos about le buggy gen one pokemon and actually think regular kids were encountering bugs and glitches all day long

>>737320329
Second >>737320596
Azumarril is a monster. Low investment, high damage in great typing.
Design looks great and the shiny is amazing.

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>>737295283
Dude really thought he was going to get "spbp" instead of being reminded of the reject he is

>>737295194
>Basic bitch RPG
it was fun
>Buggy as fuck
it had soul
zoomer can't understand that games can be fun without checking every box of modern game design.

>>737320316
I alsways keep the sereebi chart open as reference when playing.

>>737320812
They're comparing it to their experience of playing something like bethesda games where you encounter tons of bugs in regular play

>>737320812
This

>>737300774
>homo killa Blastoise
kek

>>737320805
pokemon wasn't international until 1998-9. your ass wasn't in japan, faggot ken-sama.

>>737320329
At least Fairy should be weak to and be resisted by Ghost.

>>737295194
>Basic bitch RPG
>Buggy as fuck, borderline unplayable mess of code
We were kids and that didn't matter. That shit was magical.

>>737295494
Yeah, but I couldn't take out my SNES and a TV out on my porch to play with my friend.

>>737295194
>how in the holy fuck did pokemania even happen?
Everyone in this thread is wrong except:
>>737312354
>>737314124
>>737297215
It was heavily advertised before it was released in America. On children's television channels there were ads for the premiere episode of the anime airing. There were ads in video and toy stores. It got word of mouth on the playground, kids were hyped for the release of Pokemon and had already decided it was the next big thing before anyone had seen it or played the games. The games were good, up until gen 3 at least but the anime was always trash and nobody gave a shit about the card game beyond collecting the cards. The hype peaked with the release of the first movie. The original phase of Pokemon was only wildly popular for a little less than 2 years, everyone who had red/blue/yellow played gold/silver/crystal then got bored and moved onto the next craze. After Pokemon the hype moved on to Beyblade, then Yugioh which were equally as hyped, with toys, cards and ads everywhere, but oddly enough nobody talks about those fads these days. After that I was no longer in grade school so I stopped following fads marketed at children.
Pokemon is basically the pogs or hot wheels of its time, it was a fad that was very popular among children of a specific generation who were heavily advertised to but fails to appeal to people who weren't hooked as kids. If you weren't there for the original marketing blitz you probably don't give a shit about pokemon and can see it for what it is, a mediocre piece of shit designed solely to captivate children and drain their parents wallets. I'd argue that Fortnite is for zoomers what pokemon was for millenials.
What's bizarre to me, is fully grown adults still pimping pokemon as if it's actually good, still brainwashed by the marketing all these years later. Just goes to show that the quality of a franchise matters far less financially then how hard it is pushed.
tldr; marketing aimed at children

>>737295194
>for millennials
It's the largest IP ever created. Every generation is consuming the IP retard.

>>737322182
*burp*
didn't read

Imagine the shock of this board if you showed them the old ass men who still play AD&D, 2E, or OSR. Thank God no one in this thread can read.

>>737322182
>It was heavily advertised before it was released in America
It wasn't advertised at all at first because they thought it was going to be a flop

>>737295494
Like?

>>737322182
Nah you can shill as much as you want and the game would had flopped if it sucked

>>737295194
Two Things:

First, the social element. If you were playing FF7, then the only people you'd talk to were the occasional other kid who you know played video games and was playing FF7. There generally wasn't much conversation between people playing the games, since they were single-player and generally involved just a few friends they were familiar with. But Pokemon was different. Just with the whole idea of trading pokemon, it encouraged kids to talk to each other about Pokemon and about the games. So you had a bunch of kids who played Pokemon, who talked about Pokemon, and who could play Pokemon with each other. And once Pokemon took hold among schoolkids, it wasn't dorky to play Pokemon but it became cool to play the new video game everybody else played, and so more kids jumped on board.

The other part is the whole multimedia aspect. Nintendo has been very focused on making sure that you can always see something Pokemon-related every day. There's the anime, there's the various manga, there's plushes, there were magazine ads, at the time there was advertising in store windows and you could see Pokemon on snacks and trading cards and everything. It was everywhere, which meant that people were aware of Pokemon, which meant that people were regularly thinking about it. This moved it from "dorky basement activity" to "kid toy" and parents were much more likely to buy a kid toy over, and kids much more likely to share them.

>>737295312
>I think it was because it was the first "cockfight RPG" game
Dragon Quest Monsters came out a year earlier, but was not marketed nearly as much. It was just regarded as another video game, so probably did well in JP, but had nowhere near the relevance in NA as Pokemon eventually did.

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>>737322923
That's some historical revisionism there, you couldn't go to a grocery store without seeing an ad for pokemon at that time. You couldn't go outside without seeing a pokemon ad. It was on candy, food, t-shirts and posters.
>>737323035
The games were good (for children), beyond gen 2 though the designs fell apart and it became apparent that they could just shit out anything and the cult of pokemon would buy it to please their messiah Mewtwo. If you were a teenager or adult at that time there were way better RPG's and pokemon would have been seen as some lame mediocre colorful fisher price bullshit.

>>737322182
>It was heavily advertised before it was released in America.
>It got word of mouth on the playground,
So it was heavily advertised and yet it got through word of mouth, got it. if you're saying heavily advertising then i'm thinking superbowl commercial hype. I did not remember seeing that shit.

also toonami came out the same year if anyone remembers.

>>737323643
>abloobloobloo they released shit a d le cult bought it abloobloobloo
God you are fucking retarded
Gen 2 sold because of things like the in game clock and having 2 regions, shit was amazing regardless of the designs. also gen 2 had crobat so suck my scrotum

>>737323545
>If you were playing FF7
I still remember getting laughed at by other kids reading something about it on a Gamefan magazine prior to release. didnt know anything about the series at the time.

"are you retarded Anon? how could it go to FF7 if there is FF3 LOOOOOOOLLL"

>>737323778
>So it was heavily advertised and yet it got through word of mouth
Yes, before the anime ever came out people were talking about it on the playground and parents were talking about it because they were upset about it due to the advertising. The hardcore christian conservative parents at that time were already banning their kids from participating. Both are true. Kids were all asking eachother if they were going to watch the first episode of the pokemon anime when it aired, it was a big deal. You weren't cool unless you were going to be watching the first episode and that following monday it was all anyone would talk about. I lived it my dude.
>superbowl commercial hype.
For kids, yes the hype was that strong. We were incredibly excited, there was a huge buildup before it came out and everyone was talking about it and shilling it for free on the playground before it came out. It had word of mouth before it released in america.

>>737323903
Yeah Gen 2 was good, BEYOND gen 2 is when it fell apart.

>>737324406
In middle school in the early 2000s, I mentioned the whole FF2/FF4 FF3/FF6 NA vs JP thing and some autistic guy got really upset and insisted that it wasn't true and began to literally attack me. It was really funny.

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>play gen 2
still great
>play gen 1
extremely mediocre

how do genwunners exist when gen 2 is straight up a superior version?

>>737324579
Depending who you ask, I think most people would agree gen 3-5 were still good. I stopped playing after gen 4.
But yeah, the worldwide craze was definitely over by gen 3.
Objectively, the game's quality only started to suffer from gen 6 onwards, coincidentally with the move to full 3D.

>>737325235
Johto has to lean on Kanto for a full experience. It literallly cannot survive on its own unless you want a short game.

>>737320410
Thank Ken Penders for that art.

>>737307012
Dragon quest did monster collecting before Pokemon retard

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>>737295194
>I don't get it anon how in the holy fuck did pokemania even happen?
It's a solid monster tamer that did what other monster tamers at the time didn't, focus on exploration more than story so word of the game spread as people went "woah what's that mon?" "cool isn't it? I found it at this place". To this day most tamer series still don't focus on exploration in the same way pokemon does which is one of the main reasons people still buy it.

On top of that you could play alongside your friends and battle and trade with them, something that wasn't really ever done with RPGs in general let alone this genre then there's the fact that in technical mechanical depth it blows Mario RPG and FF7 out of the water with more elements to consider in battle as well as type combinations that can change weaknesses and resistances completely.

Then you also had tertiary media and with the west getting the anime first it had an amazing advertising vector.

>>737323545
>Pokemon but it became cool to play the new video game everybody else played,
>"dorky basement activity" to "kid toy"
This is something I don't see discussed enough, great post by the way. Back then video games weren't mainstream, it was something that only nerdy losers did, pussy repellant. Pokemon was the first time I can remember playing video games in public and admitting to playing video games being socially acceptable.

>>737295283
>I will not allow the lowest cattle generation of all human kind to speak like this
Man, a zoomer saying this is hilarious.

>>737325948
Megami Tensei was on top of it even more as the core foundation, for Dragon Quest it was just one of the big gimmicks of the fifth game.

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>>737325679
Why on earth did I google that shit

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>>737326035
>Man, a zoomer saying this is hilarious.

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>>737325679
Speaking of good old Ken and monster tamer franchises.

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>>737295283
kek i clearly upset all the millenicuck manchildren, once again proving they conform to me by seething en-mass and thinking i'll bother reading ANYTHING they say. The call to go die in iran is coming, good luck out there!

>>737326163
What's wrong with trying to be a better man?
Well I guess it's true zoomer faggots can never be true men.

>>737326248
Upset? Dude your post is good comedy.

>>737325568
while Johto itself is shorter, I still think it's a more interesting region than Kanto at least

>>737326248
30 years and older aren't getting recruited. 1990 was 30 years ago. YOU are in the age range of being drafted though.

>>737295194
It was Lightning in a Bottle

People who fight wars online about the generation they were born into have no achievements of their own and are desperate to be part of the "winning group" because they can't win individually

>>737326416
>30 years and older aren't getting recruited
army extended to age 42. join up buttercup

>>737326310
>"I'm not upset, LOL!"
>replies
?
In case you're new, replying to ragebait only proves you indeed did fall for the seethebait

>>737325524
>most people would agree gen 3-5 were still good.
>Objectively, the game's quality only started to suffer from gen 6 onwards
We're gonna have to agree to disagree there. IMO they were already scraping the bottom of the barrel in terms of monster design with the "Unkowns". What if pokemon but the alphabet? In a game where the tagline is "gotta catch em all" I'm now grinding out the letters of the alphabet to complete my pokedex? Wtf? Gen 3 is when it started to get into furry territory with anthropomorphic waifu pokemon and rehashes as well.

>>737295406
>DQV didn't release in the west so westerners had no antibodies to monster rpgs.

Man, could you imagine if Dragon Quest 5 released in the west before Pokèmon even came into existence?

>>737326453
Nope. Cutoff age is 30. Zoomers though, like you? Fresh and able bodied? Protecting America? You're gonna do fiiiiiine.

>>737295283
The fun was going >outside and playing with >friends in person.

I can see why you don't understand the appeal since both of these things are foreign to you.

>>737326524
https://www.stripes.com/branches/army/2026-03-24/army-raises-enlistment-age-42-21170859.html

>>737295194
>>737295283
If you actually want a real answer in the late 90s and early 2000s you didn't have a cell phone or a switch and you had to go outside a lot more often, and it was boring as fuck, and a gameboy made things less boring, even though it sucks by today's standards, that was certainly more entertaining than having nothing, no phone, no nothing, like you would have had otherwise. Gaming was only for asocial people back then who were too afraid to talk to people so they would play video games instead because life was boring lol.

>>737326578
Oh cool, I'm still past their cutoff age. But hey, you young able bodied Zoomies are gonna be protecting this great nation.

>>737326615
holy shit a literal fossil posting on 4chin

>>737326615
two weeks amirite?

>>737326647
>>737326664
Better make sure your girlfriend's loyal to you, say bye to your pets, cause with the US's current track record, you ain't coming home for about... ten years.

>>737326580
This anon was so poor he couldnt afford toys, not even pogs

>>737295194
>>Basic bitch RPG
Dual typings which create many types of modifier interactions, immunities, DVs, STAB, interactions like Thunder vs flying Pokemon, poison/toxic poison/sleep/freeze/burn/paralysis (all of which have various unique effects), speed, crits and crit rates and their interactions with stats (crits ignoring buffs), buffs and debuffs, move accuracy and BP, volatile status effects, the entire switching mechanic which is the big thing setting it apart; and all of these being actually relevant and useful parts of the game and being able to employ them in PvP, etc

Just because it was dwarfed by later entries doesn't mean it was basic. Also, most of the bugs were fixed within the same generation in Stadium

>basic bitch RPG
>Team of 6 that you make up from 151 entirely customizable warriors, with a dozen or more selectable moves for each
>Entire element chart with 15 different elements, each strong or weak against other types
>Game takes place in modern day, not a sword welding yet olden time
>An entire fucking trade functionality and versus mode, an UNHEARD OF thing in RPGs
>Entirely on a portable system. You can take it on the go
Are you for fucking real? This is as far out of the norm as you could get for RPGs, and is STILL out of the norm

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>millenials have a choice to sign up
>zoomies don't
kek.

>>737326852
Yep it was actually deeper than almost every other jrpg from the time which boiled down to "spam strongest attack and heal when neccesary until you win"

>>737295194
I had parasect in my team
Nobody else had parasect in their team
That made it special

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>>737326981
I'm not american, good luck dying for israel again millenicuck.

>>737301724
>SMT
>Dead
>Persona a SMT spinoff being one of the most popular jrpg series of all time
>Literally just had a mainline game release a couple years back
Bait used to be believable

>>737295283
nah you had to be there

>>737327065
>good luck dying
>again
I can just...not sign up. Since I'm over 25, they can't draft me.

>>737327067
Its been so fucking long since P5 its going to be interesting to see how P6 does

>>737326963
And the gen 1 games were pretty open ended, you could do some gyms out of order, it really felt like you were just walking around in a different world doing what you wanted, you could even go waste all your money gambling

>>737295194
>Was the anime that popular?
yep.
keep in mind, most of us had never ever seen ANY* anime at this point. We didn't know the tropes and everything seemed extremely fresh and fantastical.
*No one knew Moomin was anime

>>737327067
>mainline game release a couple years back
I dunno about that man. thats pretty generous to give an expansion of an original game a release...

>>737326981
You basically needed to sign up if you wanted student aid for college. It's pretty fucked up they don't require women to sign up too. Guess they can always troon out if they wanna dodge the draft.

>is the anime popular
It's still fucking going, man.

>>737317490
Not true.My brother's Pokémon Blue got missingno corrupted before either of us knew what missingno was.
My copy of Link's Awakening also got corrupted, and in my main save Link was perpetually stuck in the "hit" sprite set (black with a red heart).

>>737327463
Base SMT 5 released in 2021

For me it was the trading cards, that was my first exposure to it and I was hooked.
The designs were cool, the art was cool, the very concept itself captured the imagination of kids. Collecting animals with super powers was a completely new concept in the West at the time. Add to that you could collect and trade with other kids. This was a big deal because kids didn't grow up with internet for the most part so we actually interacted with each other. Also, video games and JRPGs in general were a lot more niche at the time, this was basically the first real mainstream breakthrough of any JRPG over here before we even understood the concept of the genre.

>>737327526
Actually, it's a full-on different anime now. Ash completely tanked in popularity after the XY Pokemon League disaster and all efforts to save face failed, so they just retired him as soon as they gave him a concession as "world's strongest trainer".

>>737300774
>>737321053
lmao, didn't even notice

>>737327829
>Ash completely tanked in popularity after the XY Pokemon League disaster
Once in a while I am reminded of this and granted a small smile.

>>737322182
>kids were hyped for the release of Pokemon and had already decided it was the next big thing before anyone had seen it or played the games
This. I remember back in elementary school, one of the older kids showed up with a yellow rat on his t-shirt one day, and became a schoolyard celebrity. Apparently, he had been to the US and bought it there. The anime came on TV later that year and then the card-collecting craze began.
Kids went absolutely wild for the cards, and every day, the recess became a battleground. We had a tradition, where during recess, rich kids would stand on a platform in the schoolyard and throw cards to the masses, shouting "Schappas!". What followed was a bloody brawl with literally hundreds of children scrambling for the cards, stepping on each other's fingers etc. It was the highlight of the day.
And then it was banned.

>>737295194
i'd rather play gen 1 pokemon that persona 5 or whatever other rpg slop people play now a days
it was and still is very based

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>>737327375
was pokemon the first anime people saw? I had my dad's friend's son introduce me to bunch of shit on VHS GitS, Ranma, Macross II, Armitage III, Guyver, and 3 seconds of Urotsukidoji i think. I did I saw Sailor Moon appeared on tv so I thought people at least saw that and I listen to some kid talked about DBZ and GT games at school so I assume people watched dbz at the time.

>>737314124
i've never met a pokemon fan who wasn't obsessed with the videogames back then
some people liked the card games, some people liked the anime, but everyone liked the videogames

>>737295194
Good designs. Mechanic that forces you to be social.

>>737295283
Bitch, I was 5 years old during 9/11 and was too young for that nonsense. Have fun being drafted to Iran so that we can get oil!

>>737326248
>The call to go die in iran is coming, good luck out there!
Who's getting drafted? Hint: Not Millennials.

>>737326578
enlistment =/= draft age

>>737329056
you're right... however

>Currently, U.S. federal law allows for compulsory conscription under emergency or extraordinary security conditions outlined in Article I, Section 8 of the United States Constitution and 10 U.S. Code § 246. This would apply to able-bodied men between the ages of 17 and 45 who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, U.S. citizens.
>45

>>737328510
The first anime I saw that I recognized as "anime" (basically, that I knew came from Japan and was distinct from Western cartoons) was Sailor Moon, which I remember was advertised pretty heavily when it came out. But I think Pokemon was probably the first anime for a lot of kids, especially boys. Sailor Moon didn't have that mass demographic appeal that Pokemon had.

>>737329243
Are we great yet?

>>737326248
the youngest millennial is now beyond draft age
zoomoids like you are ripe for the picking, however

>>737329243
The cutoff age for draft enlistment is still 25, and at the end of the year they're automating this process. Only lunatics still defend our fucking lunatic of a president, the worst man to be in office in decades.

>>737328510
For me it was My Neighbor Totoro.

>>737328510
No, they'd been airing heavily-edited anime on TV since the 80s and the 90s started out with stuff like Sailor Moon on TV and Ghibli movies being super popular VHS rentals. DBZ also ran on a lot of local networks before Toonami picked up the national syndication rights. Baby Boomers also grew up with Astro Boy, Kimba, and Speed Racer playing on TV and they had a really hard time reconciling those memories with what anime actually looked like by the 90s.

If you're non-American anime had been airing in most countries in relatively unedited forms since the 70s.

>>737329752
you mean the best

>>737329904
If you're a masochist

>>737295194
No other game did what it did back then. None. It's one thing to have a video game that lets you tame monsters. Shit SMT and those cheap ass Digimon keychains did that first. Here's where Pokemon stood out and essentially took over:

1) It was on a handheld
2) It was on a handheld
3) It was on a fucking handheld

We're talking about a video game where you and your best friend or younger sibling could play your own copies and actively compare the creatures you have as you're on the bus to school. You didn't have to wait until you got home to play Pokemon, you could have it with you in your backpack. Friend has something you want? Trade for it on the school grounds because at least one of you had a link cable. Why else would they designate version exclusives? So you could fucking talk and communicate with others. Pokemon's a social game, always has been and thanks to the GameBoy you had the means to not only play it among your peers, but a reason to actively communicate with them about it in public. No social media or Discord back then, either.

>>737311256
>>737311658
Pokemania was already dead by 2001, because there was no way that type of popularity could be sustained for over 3 years when your audience was growing up and new stuff was coming out.

>>737295231
Fbpb
>>737295283
>>737295494
Zoomies malding

>>737295194
>>737295283
Your post is pure midwittery because you should have realized.
a) being basic bitch RPG only helped the popularity because it made them accessible to a casual audience and to kids who wouldn't care for the average JRPG of the time. The appeal of the game was that it was real fun getting to expore a world with all these cool creatures you can collect and fight with. There was no other game like it. It was the hardcore RPG fans that would look down on Pokemon as baby games.

b) RBY might be buggy, but its not buggy in a meaningful way to get in the way of your fun during normal gameplay. You had to go out of your way to see the bugs and glitches, and some of it, like missingno, only adds an extra appeal. No, no one cared about competitive to care that a bunch of status effects didn't work as intended.

>>737295194
>holy fuck did pokemania even happen?
The anime. Where I lived nobody even knew that the games were a thing.

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>>737325235
Gen 2 is complete ass, so is HGSS

>>737332091
Not in Crystal

>>737304779
Big fucking this

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>>737295194
>>737295231
FPBP
They had no response to this

Megami Tensei exist

>>737295194
>>737295283
>born to late for pokemania
>born just in time to die for israel
zoom zoom I need you to bring the price of gas down to 7.99. I need to save up for pokemon wind and waves. I'll have to buy another switch 2 so I can trade with my son a straight A student in his private montessori education

>>737326515
yeah, huge fumble for them to not do it

>>737295283
holy mother of zoomie meltdown

>>737295194
I'll take soul over a hard game
thanks for your thread nigger

>>737295494
not on the gameboy

>>737295194
>>Basic bitch RPG
You never played another RPG. Especially not any from the time.

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>>737295194
NI

>>737332091
Antijohtoschizo is back

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Rate

>>737327037
The only 100% accurate sleep move, right? That was why you kept it?

>>737295231
Fpbp. Zoomers have no idea how good Pokemon used to be.

>>737326478
Don’t forget all the toy looking baby pokemon in general 2. And all the rejects from gen 1.

>>737295231
Based

Zoomgroids itt = RAPED and GAPED

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>>737338381
>Legendary
Pic related
Otherwise great taste

>>737295194
>Buggy as fuck
Most of the bugs aren't even things people of the time would have seen as bugs. Like swift missing 1/256 times. There are no move descriptions in the game or in the manual so no one could have known it was meant to hit 100% of the time.

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Gen 3 was the only time Pokemon was good. FACT!

Which starter did you guys pick?

>>737338381
How did you get friends to evolve Machoke and Graveler?

>>737338880
Torchic, but I've used all three near equally throughout the years, they're all just so good

>>737338940
I’m on FRLG+ which gives you the ability to evolve trade evos with a new key item

Honestly I'm still trying to figure out if people at large are actually upset with turn-based outside of Persona and Pokemon, or if it's just a handful of whiny schizos here on 4chan.

>>737295194
It was a solid RPG on the Gameboy in the mid-90s.
It's not borderline unplayable. The majority of the bugs weren't even common knowledge. Only with people using the internet, could anyone even be able to know that certain moves were bugged. The overwhelming majority of glitches, you wouldn't even experience in a normal playthrough.

>>737323903
Gen 2 sold because it added things.

>MORE pokemon
>MORE gyms
>MORE types
>NEW evolutions
>DAY/NIGHT
>MORE genders
>NEW mechanics

If you were a kid at the time, it was better than RBY in every way. Plus it was compatible with gen 1, so you could transfer your favorite mons to the new games. Games today could never.

>>737339491
Is but them and play them on my gba except the damn games run 100$ a pop nowadays if you want one with a new soldered battery

>>737295194
it wasnt because it was a rpg or anything like, it was the monster capturing that made it popular

>>737323643
>That's some historical revisionism there
No? When the game originally came out in Japan they thought it was going to be a flop

>>737339491
Just have to get the link cable. Good luck convincing your parents to get one for you. That’ll be 20$ plus tax please!
Pokemon is such a scanmy series. You need 5788$ to get all of the mons now

>>737295194
>>737295494
The whole craze was because we never know which pokemon would pop up next and it could be yours, it was always a mystery what it could evolve into. The anime spoiled everything and i feel most people played pokemon because of the anime

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>>737338381
Nice,
I beat the 1st run of Pokemon Emerald Rogue the other day

I like the pokemon formula much more than the standard jrpg formula desu

>>737295231
FPBP

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The merch potential was also wild. Not sure how many toys you could squeeze out of a Burger King lineup for Dragon Quest or Final Fantasy.

>>737345263
I still got my Golden Jigglypuff Card from Burger King

>>737338381
>Venosaur
My FUCKING NIGGA
Love that little coked out bastard.

Like many others have said, it was very much a "you had to be there moment"
The games, the cartoons, the merch, the "satanic" panic regarding the games, the burger king cards for the movie(I still the gold mew). Just an insane blitz, and it wasn't just a kids thing, I was in 10th grade at the time and tons of people in my class where playing it.
I still enjoy Pokemon to this day despite being a decrepit old fart.

>>737295231
I was like 12 when it came out. I thought it was gay shit for toddlers and terrible compared to games like Chrono Trigger and FF6.

>>737295231
Simple as

>>737295194
>Was the anime that popular?
The first season was childhood kino.

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>Basic bitch tabletop game
>Buggy as fuck, borderline unplayable mess of code
>Kicks off the strategy craze for millennials
I don't get it anon how in the holy fuck did chessmania even happen? Was the anime that popular? Lack of competition of tabletop games? Shit dude Shogi and Go blew Chess out of the water in terms of tabletop games so what happened here?

>>737295654
Also half of the shit thrown around as 'bugs' is hilarious
>freeze, the rarest and most powerful status locked behind lategame attacks, was effectively an instant kill and you could never defrost unless you got hit with a fire move
correct
>this is different behavior than the pokemon games I played in 2011
correct
>therefore it is a bug
incorrect

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>>737295494
The braindead pokefag fanboy replies to this post further enforces the fact that /vp/ should absolutely be a containment board for the betterment of this entire site.

>>737347289
Sorry you live in the worst possible era lil zoom zoom.

>Buggy as fuck, borderline unplayable
Huh...?

>>737347502
>Zoomer calling others zoomers
Hilarious

>>737338940
He cheated or used a cheaters rom

>>737295494
>I hate this answer so much. There are clearly better RPGs during that time.
Did they have multiplayer?
>>737347289
Did they have multiplayer retard?

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>>737338381
Pretty good. Rate mine

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>>737347559
This image has done terrible damage to Pokemon discussions on Gen 1.
I'm convinced people don't even read it. They think it has the worst, most game destroying glitches ever conceived when this whole list basically amounts to silly mechanics.

>>737347880
Jesus you won't even get those glitches unless you specifically try to get them on a normal playthrough, hell you wouldn't even care if you encounter 99% of those and won't affect a casual playthrough

>>737295283
Holy BASED

>>737295283
Shitllenials SEETHING from this TRVKE NVKE

>>737295194
>Was the anime that popular
yes
there are actually LOTS of similar games in japan at the time and pokemon stands out as the only one having an anime

>>737348156
Did not give a single shit about 95% of this list when i played this at the age of 4-5. Still dont. Mainly because im not a little bitch that cares about pussy status moves and bitch mode set ups. I hit the strongest attack, fight over.

>>737295194
I married my wife through pokemon

>>737347953
>you won't even get those glitches unless you specifically try to get them on a normal playthrough
Nah, the occur in the background all the time. Most people who don't read the image think that you won't run into it but something like hyper beam spam is used by players all the time.

>>737296426
>GBC
The OG Pokemon weren't for the color.
I remember I had played the shit out of my Blue version on my brick and then I got a GBC for my birthday... put my Blue cartridge in the GBC and my fucking save file was gone. All that time sunk into it lost like tears in the rain. I'm pretty sure I legit cried.

>>737295283
spbp

>>737295231
This, also 150 Pokemon was a tangible amount. The 6 million Pokemon they have now is just too much to care about.

>>737295438
that's like what 50 bucks in real money?
I say that's a good deal for a gba with a decent game

>>737295194
It's unironically one of the best games ever made
>Mario RPG blew Pokemon
LMFAO