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Well? Do you enjoy her game? Is it better now that TV's are gone and they've moved on from not-china?
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>>737301295
No, I won't play her game until it stops being gachaslop
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Buy an ad
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>>737301295
I actually liked the TV mode...
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>>737301295
I just wish that the snake wasn't a designated Sneed crutch
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>>737301295
I play her game but still hate how power crept she is even after multiple buffs.
I miss TV mode because it meant we got a lot more side missions which were really cool like the Kami North stuff.
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here's that dorky goat girl i was tellin ya about
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please tell me the weird child characters are done being released and we have legit attractive women being released again not diaper wearing creepy fucking things dancing around in kpop outfits
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>>737301295
I enjoy ZZZ mainly for the full Thiren characters but the half Thirens are cool too. Working on finishing the AoD story to get to Cissia's.
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>>737301763
Yeah, the first Kami North quests were actually really well done, and the presentation inside the TV mode seriously added to them.
When the TV mode was removed, we ended up getting tons of text dumps like pic related.
The text box limitations in TV mode forced devs to break up the dialog, and have it be snappy.

>>737301941
Yeah, idols are done and released, the final banner for one of them just finished.
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>>737301941
>he didn't roll for the angels of kino
Wtf is wrong with you?
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>>737301295
The soul was surgically extracted from the game with the removal of TVs, now it's just another boring parry slop game.
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>>737302420
Cissia and Silly >>>>> Angels
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ZZZ is over-animated, not sure why they do that. The quality is very high for sure though
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>>737302870
It's part of the charm.
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>>737301614
yeah, everyone suddenly became the biggest tv fans after they were gone, even though they shat on them before
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>>737302995
I kinda hate it, but atleast it's unique so maybe you got a point
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>>737301295
Lost a lot of interest now that the idols have been released and their patch is over. If the 3.0 cast trailer is garbage I'll drop it and give the game another chance in 4.0.
While I did enjoy the idols and it's the best 2.x patch 1.0 is still the peak thanks to TV mode and how the siblings and agents are portrayed in the story.
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hey metafags, do we roll for S&M ice slut or not?
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>>737303398
I'd say it heavily depends on how good your Miyabi team is.
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>>737303093
I shat on the horrible performance of that mode, lagging and being slow for no reason. Not the mode itself.
It was a board game that lagged more than battles ffs.
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>>737301295
tv mode wouldve been great if there werent a million loading screens and paragraphs of meaningless text on every node
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>>737301941
They are J Idols and not in whatever the fuck you think a diaper is
And no Norma is yet another loli coming in 3.0 so please just quit now
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>>737303093
It's almost like they're two different groups of people... Anyways yes them killing TV mode killed ZZZ for me, we'll never get anything as absolutely kino as The Prophecy ever again and thus I no longer care about it.
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>>737303093
I liked them from the beginning, but of course I don't have way to prove that.
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>>737303093
I thought it was just zoomers that hated it? TV mode instantly clicked with me because I'd played 2d dungeon crawlers before.
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>removes anything SOVLFVL about it and makes it for BROKE ASS BRAINROTTED ZOOMOID NIGGERS
Yeah, not coming back, they clearly found their "target audience"
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>>737304798
i will forever blame the negative iq streamers and youtubers who couldn't stop complaining about it
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Lots of new soulful things get added and sadly even the CBT players hated the TVs so they were not long for this world
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>>737304968
>new soulful things get added
Name them
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>>737302062
I do not like this Zhao, her smug aura mocks me.
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>>737304892
I sure hope all these retarded niggers will die of AIDS without spreading on their retarded genes
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Fantastic porn scene, lods of cum spilled.

...game?
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>>737301295
Started the game for her
Quit in 1.3
Still hasn't been surpassed in design
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>>737305045
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>>737303093
I really wonder how absolute brain dead people like you function.
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>>737301941
Why did you play this game in the first place?
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>"new soulful things get added"
>such as?
>0 response
Tells you everything you need to know
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>>737304992
All the bangboo mini games
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>>737305189
>you didn't respond asap!
Suck my cock
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>>737305203
>candy slop for toddlers under 3
THIS is soulful to you?
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>slop posting
Maybe you could identify soul if you weren't brain rotted by memes
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They clearly found their target audience (broke and brain dead) and their rightful place on the charts as a result.
Try your best to fund your toddler slops now retards
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>teens
>"toddler"
Really need to just take the internet away from these people
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>>737305095
Cute bnnuy
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>>737305502
What's wrong? I'm not "bussin" enough for you retards?
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>>737305203
I dislike the Bangboo minigames. Sure, they are playable, but incredibly simple, and just make me wish I was playing the actually good games that the gameplay was ripped from.
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When is co-op getting added back? It was the most fun minigame to date.
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got my snek
unfortunately NTE is right around the corner
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I kinda lost interest when the robot girl didn't have you play as the robot
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>>737306076
NTE is gonna flop don't bother
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>>737306083
Dumbass
https://gamebanana.com/mods/657986
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>>737306175
I doubt it, even disappointing releases like Endfield will keep trucking on for years to come.
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season 2 was retarded

>uh yeah, yi shixuan, who resolve this situation in minutes is yet occupied with another super ultra important mission.

that's the entire fucking plot after chapter 1
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Pantyhose doko?
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>>737301295
Sorry but I'm not falling for hoyoslop for the 3rd time
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>>737305343
Hush Wuwajeet
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>>737301295
I like the game, thank you so much, chink-sama.
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>>737301295
No, if anything the game is getting worse and worse and worse it's unbelievable how bad it's becoming.
The latest VH is a disaster, plot is still awful with a dog shit présentation riddled with black screen and censorship is literally killing character. Cissia lost her tongue during ult despite being thematically accurate, Promeia's intro was utterly butchered and her back got censor-chinked
Literal dead game
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>>737306329
Endfield looks a billion time more soulful and polished than whatever the fuck NTE is, it's the most bland game I've ever set my eyes upon
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>>737306258
If mods count then the game itself doesn't matter anyways
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I think why I liked the TV mode so much is because it leaved it up to the imagination of what was happening rather than stale/repetitive animations. At least when it comes to the side stories.
Well placed sound effects, good voice acting and some decent writing can go a long way to make something remembrable, even if the visuals is something you made up in your head.
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>>737306764
Well that's where you're wrong then, Endfield is insanely boring and lacks an ounce of soul, I would know since I'm a day 1 player lol. It had unique combat and fairly decent storytelling in the early betas but bugmen whined it was too dark and needs to be dodge / parry slop like every other gacha game on the market so hypergryph had to quickly pivot the entire story and gameplay into the mess we have now, have you played this shit? I've no comment about NTE since I haven't played the beta but atleast it's unique
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>>737303093
>even though they shat on them before
>they
I didn't shit on TV mode, dumbfuck. It was a bunch of brainrotted zoomers who can't handle basic abstraction whining about it.
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>>737304430
Soukaku would never say "frick" actually
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>remove factory shit
>bring back mmo gameplay
endfield is now good
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>>737306914
It's insanely soulful, it has the most derailed models of all gacha, an insane amount of unique animations per character. Unique walk and running animations, unique stop animations, unique sitting animations, unique zoom-in animation, all of this in addition to the combat animations
The designs are also among the most soulful out there, Fangyi's straight and loose pants, Rossi's red riding hood inspiration, Laev's actual dress (and not a chinkshit that's short in the front and long in the back), Xaihi's long ass dress with perfect physics and no cheating (like a side cut to make collisions with the knees easier to manage), there is just so much care and uniqueness put into all of the characters that it's definitely more soulful than the vast majority of gacha. Oh and I also forgot all the menu animations.
Gacha live and die by their characters.

Combat could be better but it feels a lot like a traditional jrpg with everyone on foot and colliding with each other, commenting on what you do and so on.
Factory is a huge normie filter too, despite being dumbed down
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>have Sneed/Sanby/Trigger team
>Sanby and Trigger have their balls
>Sneed doesn't
Should I pull Sneed's ball?
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>>737301295
>Have their own general on /vg/
>DESPERATELY make the same thread on /v/ over and over again just to shill this embarrassing hoyo slop
KILL YOURSELF
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>>737307525
well? does it seem like you need it, from your usual scores?
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I hope they sex up the swimsuits this year, cause the next few hoyo games seem even less lewd than even Genshin.
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>>737307614
A lot of games have their own general on vg but still see threads here.
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>>737307357
Either way the product I experienced in the beta was infinitely better. And the story of endfield has to be worst written shit I've ever experienced since Genshin Impact, the endmin is a horrible, boring amnesiac character that everyone worships but that doesn't even begin the describe how dull the story really is. As for model quality.. GFL2 has high model quality too, I'm not going to make a big deal about it since this has become the expectation with these high-budget Chinese gacha releases.

The factory is my favorite feature of Endfield for the record. I'm just very disappointed in the game because I waited for it release for so long, hell I even rolled the past 3 characters in the game but I have -NEVER- used them even a single time because they all fucking play mostly the same anyway, apply "insert element here" mark and use skill / ult to consume them. I trimmed every content in the game with the initial team I built and just never even bothered experimenting because the combat IS that dull, atleast to me. I'm happy you like it, but I'm just disappointed personally, and 1.2 was the last straw
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>>737307614
can you tell that to the wuwa guy as well?
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>>737305979
3.0 maybe. We'll find out this live stream possibly.
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>zhu yuan ass still unsurpassed
>didn't get a buff when ellen did
kusoge
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Promeia status?
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>>737307357
endjeet had this shillpost ready to go lmao
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is anyone coming out that cissia will be good for? i don't own, and don't want to own, seed.
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>>737308034
Not for a while, at least. Currently she's only for Sneed or Sanby
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>>737307735
I completely understand that, I'm not a die hard Endfield fan either I'd give it a 7/10 but that's because I care a lot about the characters and I haven't played the beta so I have no prior state to compare it with
That said, I'm under the impression that all gacha are better when they're WIP. Downgrades on release always happen
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>>737308195
I have sanby, but i also have orphie. i guess i could throw them all on a team together and see how that goes.
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>>737307965
ehh
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>>737308209
I'd probably agree with that 7/10 to be fair, but that's not good enough for me to continue a game long-term. It's my own fault for having too high of an expectation, I'm going into NTE expecting it to be 7/10 at best. The upside of these F2P games is you can try them out for free, so there's that.
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>>737308034
idk about coming but cissia grace rina
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>>737308034
about 5% worse with dialyn astra and as strong as anbys best team
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>>737306713
>changes to bad animations is censorship
They censoered SBilly's bike too!
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>>737308521
i have a primal urge to bury my face in that pussy
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>retard plays unfinished beta version of game
>character undergoes changes before official release
>"wtf they're censoring my pegi 12 sex game!"
It happens every fucking patch and it's always funny to see.
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>>737301295
>Is it better now that TV's are gone
I stopped playing when they did this
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>>737301295
if they didn't remove TVs I would have quit long ago.
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>>737308925
Is your entire gimmick just running a bot that rephrases the most recent post in a thread as the exact opposite?
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>>737308998
is your entire gimmick being a faggot? i said what i said because it's the truth. it's almost like people like different things.
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>>737308547
Except these animations were good.
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>>737309057
Yeah man, it was a complete coincidence.
Come on. Fuck off with that. You're not fooling anybody.
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>>737305542
I wanna learn this dance and perform at a pub
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>enter thread
>0 feet
the 1 thing ZZZ is good for and you fucks couldn't even post a toe
goodbye
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>>737309160
They were janky, Promia's made her ass look like it was made from polygons back in 2004
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>>737309286
Have sex.
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>>737307965
boring af
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>>737309286
Just play GFL2 where you have 4k feet you can freecam into at the dorms, I don't approve of foot faggotry but maybe you'll get kick out of it.
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>Gacha game
>Goes to Chinaland
>Worst part of the game
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Pulchra is in heat again...
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>muh china
>the whole game is china and the china area was just rural poors
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>>737309787
Nice lie
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>pegi
oh no its brown
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>>737309875
lie? the only not china area is blazewood
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>>737310149
>Is disingenuous
We're done here
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>>737309323
Cissia's was thematically accurate and reinforced her aesthetic. Removing it with nothing is a huge downgrade.

Promeia's ass didn't look better or worse than any other ass in the game and was actually tastefully sensual while hinting at her main gimmick which is removing her coat.
If you find the ass blocky I believe it's because the player didn't turn on the character model quality to "global" or "dynamic", don't remember which one. It's especially noticeable on Seed, if it's enabled her ass is very round and when it's disabled her ass looks blocky.

ZZZ is dead anyway.
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>>737306898
>because it leaved it up to the imagination of what was happening rather than stale/repetitive animations
Braindead zoomoids can't imagine a rotating apple in their monkey heads, that's why they hated it
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>>737310205
>has never seen the chink places lumina and sixth st are apping
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>>737310217
How do you feel about the changes to Starlight Billy?
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>>737310574
I haven't followed them at all, I saw his animations, though everything looked off and weightless so I just stopped caring.
His A-rank ultimate where he blinks everywhere remains unmatched
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>>737310814
They've changed his animations a lot a few times now.
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>>737301614
So did I. But normalfaggots can't rest until they strip everything of its identity.
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>>737310574
Remains mogged by launch Billy
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>>737301295
Yes, yes and yes
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>>737310217
>ZZZ is dead anyway.

I've being reading this for like a year now.
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>>737311412
dead game
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>>737310574
NTA, but I'm not a huge fan. His design looks too busy with too much shit crammed in, and his attitude feels too goofy.
Don't get me wrong, I really like Billy, but I was hoping his S-Rank alt to be serious Calydon version. You know, the guy who passed his mantle of strongest Outer Ring fighter to Lighter. Not just more of Starlight Knights fanboying.

>>737311189
Well, I did get all of the Angels, and their weapons. So I can just log in and do events and weeklies now. The characters in next patch don't really interest me at all.
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>>737311412
Dead quality-wise.
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>>737311412
fuck im close
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>>737311487
How do you feel about the full AoD gameplay? For me, bosses feel like you're playing a patch 1.0 team with the old buff->stun->dmg setup, but I've noticed they're kinda awkward to play vs. hordes.
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>>737311551
The quality improved significantly after we went back to 6th street desu
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>>737301295
only gacha's i play are Endfield and soon NTE will replace Wuthering Waves im bored of it
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>>737303467
I have Yaber, Trigger and Astra. Should I roll for S&M slut??? My secondary team is, Ye ShungFRAUD, Zhao and Nicole. Who should I roll for?
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>>737311704
This, patch 2.7 was a season 1 kino tier patch.
The first patch being 100% back to the city turns out to be the first great patch in a while, curious.
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>>737309286
Fine, here the feet
Now bitch about the fact that her toes aren't showing in vid related
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>>737312008
Mibibi/Trigger/Astra isn't the most optimal team desu. Sounds like you need better anomaly supports, rather than a second ice anomaly character.
Take note, it's a bit too early to compare Promeia vs. Miyabi yet, but still, an aftershock character with Astra? Why?
Shungus/bnuuy/Nico is a killer team.
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>>737311412
no one will play it in 2 more weeks, trust me sister
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Billy Kid. Serious mode.
Serious Billy. DEMON MODE!
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>>737312008
switch trigger with nicole
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>>737308521
I wish her in game spats were this tight, god I love cameltoe
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When will devs stop the incest bait?
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>>737311487
>>737312353
the homo is gonna flop so hard, they didn't even put his banner in the first half.
homosexuals forever losing.
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>>737303350
Imagine being the animator of this having a version without the curtain...
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>>737311615
Hordes can be a problem, but it helps that Sunna's skill has bit of pull to it, so some stragglers will be in there for Nangong/Aria skills.
And yeah, the rotation feels pretty reminiscent of early ZZZ, what with Sunna's buff lasting long time, and much of the gameplay being just building the stun with Nangong for Aria to capitalize on it. Personally I like it, but my favorite team so far was S.Anby, Trigger and Ceasar, since that one just felt like I was playing one character solo. Orphie did make the team stronger, but also made it so that I have to be more mindful of buff durations.
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>>737312541
>perhaps
so there is a chance she might masturbate with that snake
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Will ZZZ let me hug AoD like NTE is going to?
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>>737312580
>male S-Rank banner is right before a major update and/or major character banner
Where have I seen that before?
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>>737301295
AGP thread based!
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>>737312673
Haha, I literally just finished an Orphie/Trigger/Sanby run in HZ right now (after doing a Cissia/Trigger/Sanby run)
And yeah, even though Sanby is pretty much the underdog of the premier S-ranks, her full team is very fun and intuitive to play
My conclusion is: I prefer Orphie over Cissia, game play wise. At least from one round of HZ.
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this game was good before it turned into coom slop.
it was fun from 1.0 to 1.4
then after 2.0 it was just ML trash, everyone glazing your existence, all the girls being empty shells only existing to be sexy.
that faggot bara bait manato, pedo bait angels, the retarded shifu with her stupid asymetric clothes.

a shame really, a spineless game made by spineless devs, the moment shit started being hard they threw away tv, the diverse cast of characters, the factions...etc
they threw away everything.
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>>737312998
what should we play instead, anon?
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>>737312846
season 3 will have 2 token males before the next void hunters lmao.
they promised more males in an interview a year ago, just a fucking lie
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>>737307965
I'll pass
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>>737313041
who am i to tell you what to play.
i just wanted to say what i think about that game's state, it started as a decent gacha, now it's no better than that tranny game wuwa
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>>737313106
Fags and fujos are not welcome.
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>>737309753
How unfortunate haha
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>>737313254
>retard thinks you have to be either to roll males
retarded coomer is retarded!
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>>737313402
Okay fag
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>>737301295
Downloaded for the robutt
Dickroll was successful
Left after a few hours of watching and hearing her walk
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>>737313398
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>>737313402
Hey man, I rolled for both Hugo and Lighter. But the less males we get, the less of "them" we attract. Worth it, hey!
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>>737301295
Never played her game but the porn is amazing
Am I missing out?
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>>737312998
>the retarded shifu with her stupid asymetric clothes
Calm down, Alice
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>>737313602
Current banner is for snake sex so you can't get her.
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>>737313571
are they coming out of your screen?
what kind of retarded logic is this?
how chronically online do you need to be for any of this to matter
>>737313421
retarded coomer is retarded!
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>>737313678
I meant just in general not Ellen. Which ZZZ should I... to...?
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>>737313805
Bot broke
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>>737313505
Such a sexy cat
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>>737313602
Do you like action games? If so, ZZZ can be pretty enjoyable, just keep in mind that character move-sets are kind of limited, full team of three characters will barely match one Dante style with one weapon.
As far as story and characters go, early on ZZZ did the worst job out of all Hoyo games in introducing characters and keeping a consistent cast, they pretty much just swapped from one group to another with each patch, but they've been getting slightly better at this lately.
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>>737311710
lmao NTE looks like legitimate dogshit you'd do better to play HSR instead of dropping Wuwa who is literally the only gacha worth playing alongside Endfield
t.played everything for a long time
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>>737313602
the game doesn't offer anything besides.
i guess if you want to self insert and have the characters stroke your ego then you could play it, but you can't make decisions so might as well watch a youtube video.
it's just a master love visual novel without choices.
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>>737301295
yes, I enjoy his game
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>>737312256
Who should I role for? I was thinking Dialyn but maybe I shouldve pulled one of the delulus....
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>>737312998
>coom slop

You call one of the most censored game out there "coom slop"?
ZZZ's writing fell off a cliff with 1.4 when it gave up on its goofy aesthetic to become a boring ass serious story with everyone having a tearjerker past
summer event was a rare moment of old ZZZ kino
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>>737313910
Did ZZZ rape your sister or something
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>>737313941
kys faggot
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>>737301295
>now that TV's are gone
I haven't played in a while. What did they replace them with?
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>>737312395
So trigger should be on my second team?
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>>737301295
>they've moved on from not-china
I haven't reached it yet
will I survive it if Star Rail's Space China filtered me?
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>>737301295
Yes and I am looking forward to the season 3 teaser in 4 days.
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>>737309753
Burnice gave her catnip again
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>>737313983
>summer event was a rare moment of old ZZZ kino

only good part of the entire china slop year.
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>>737313835
You mean which character to get as new player? Right now there's not really any strong ones available, and while Cissia is okay, she's more meant as bandaid for older character who didn't get much support. And right now it's not a good idea to start building that team, since it's showing its age even with Cissia.
I'd suggest picking the game up, and then just saving your pulls until somebody primary DPS comes around.
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>>737313979
Dialyn is a 100% must-pull for everyone because triggering additional ults on demand is ridiculously OP.
As for the Angels, yes Sunna provides a ton of value to a variety of teams so she's extremely useful as well.
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I dropped it when they focused on chinawank
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>>737314118
Not quite...
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>>737301614
I didn't necessarily like it, but it gave the game identity and made the MCs actually important alongside the fighters. They should have let it evolve rather than giving up on it.
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>>737314126
Should I waot for future void hunters? Only rupture i have is the Jojo bro. Looks like ths game is teasing multiple void hunters and I only have 200 pulls
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>>737313985
that was so kakkoii though
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>>737313984
no, but i used to love this game, spent so many months defending it, all of that for nothing.
i just wanted the game to stay the way it was, but the game betrayed its original players to pander to tourists that never cared about it in the first place.
on one hand it feels good that the game is flopping now and everything is rightfully shitting on season 2, on the other hand i wish the game stayed good.

they shit on their entire legacy.
ruined the exaltists, a faction shown in the lore teaser with the game's release, just to shill their master love plot.
ruined phaeton's dynamic, the underground hackers, just to shill their master love plot because the incels complained day and night that phaeton wasn't strong enough.
they completely fucked up hugo's story, because shilling vivian was more important i guess.
essentially deleted fairy from the story, i guess a faceless AI isn't worth keeping around in a master love game, coomers can't jork it to a voice.
billy doesn't even get to be the first banner of his debute patch, one of the first characters we meet, even anby didn't get disrespected like that.

waste of fucking time, fucking liars that ruined a good game.
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>>737314235
Miyabi, Yixuan and Big Shungus have been safe bets so far, so saving for VHs is probably a sound plan.
S-Billy is going to be a rupture agent, but if he ends up being weaker than Yixuan then roll for her massive fucking rice milk tits instead.
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>>737313941
live chad
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>>737314201
Or if they were intent on dropping it from main story, they could have still kept in side quests, and maybe in some events. Making those TV maps and events was easy way to add in extra content with decent presentation. Right now we still have NPCs with no animations not even looking at player character when they speak.
The first Golden Week event was still one of the best ones that the game did, mostly because it didn't feel like fucking cereal box puzzle.
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>>737313941
faggot
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>>737313983
coomers really love to downplay their shit, huh?
i know that there is some korean out there where you can suck a girl's nipples which means that zzz is le heckin wholesome censerino game!
zzz is coomer slop whether you like or not, it started as a normal game, but right now it only exists to sell sex, they ruines season 2 just to sell you a fake girlfriend plotline, that's typical master love garbage.
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>>737313985
>>737314464
Samefag
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>>737314370
This feels like a wall of cope written by a South-East Asian, but this one line takes the cake:
>essentially deleted fairy from the story
Kid missed it LMAO
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>>737313985
kys chudcel
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>>737313678
Cissia is basically the siblings' pet
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>>737314498
Extreme cope.
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>>737309160
>animation is literally backwards and clips awfully
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>>737314498
No it exists to sell very high quality animation and combat with really good feedback (the haptics are insane) alongside a really nice OST
keep your buzzwords for **dit
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>>737314393
Thanks anon
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>>737314037
yes, or someone that increases stun multiplier
shungus trigger zhao is decent, in that order
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>>737314643
Her outfit looks stupid and she has droopy tits.
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>>737312541
I could some more, honestly.
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>>737314532
the devs themselves admitted that fairy wad sidelines you retarded lying fuck.
just fuck off, i get it you are a coomer and the target audiencd and you won..etc
spare me the bullshit, you have the right to like your garbage since you can coom your brains off and that's all you care about.
but i also have the right to complain, i loved the story, the tv mode, the lore, the character dynamics, just because i didn't play the game with my hand around my dick doesn't mean i'm lesser than you.
i'm not fucking inferior to you, you brown shit eating pajeet, and the fact that you pretend to be white, you sexually and emotionally deprived animal, who is so pathetic he needs to find release in a videogame, fucking trash.
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>>737314643
It says to not use their artwork, you chud! MOOOODS
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>>737314632
Counter point:
Instead of a designated stunner, an agent that boosts ATK, allowing Ye to unga bunga her way through
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>>737314768
that's zhao's job
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>>737314768
Which agents do that?
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>>737314585
suuuuuure, as if anyone would believe that lie.
just open the zzz /vg/ threads and all you will find are coomer pics, we used to discuss the story and combat in 1.0, but that's just not the same game anymore.

zzz is a sexual product right now, it starts and ends with sex, billy is just filler trash thrown to die. they even made him weak because a non sexual product simply does not matter

>>737314560
just look at this garbage, just a sex pet, this game stopped having charactera long ago
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>>737314848
Astra, Lucy. Jew Few Few boosts crit dmg.
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>>737314882
>charactera
Brown
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>>737314882
>suuuuuure, as if anyone would believe that lie
Everything I've said true.
Animations and ost are top of the line, combat system is the best alongside Wuwa's.
/vg/ is a cesspool and doesn't represent anything since IP count was removed
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>>737315115
Anon you are arguing with a 70 IQ brown person.
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>>737301362
This, ZZZ would would benefit massively if the gacha was removed same with Endfield because in both games having different characters doesnt change the game at all
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i remember when zzz started, it was focused on the story and characters, the combat, the tv.
then as time moved whenever i watched the livestream for a new patch, 90% of the new content was always.
>look this is the new dating feature.
>oh look these are the new cinema dating events
>and we also added room dating events, where you can go into the character's room
>oh and this is the new story climax, where you can date the new void hunter
>oh the plot twist is that you used to date the void hunter girl when you were little in helios academy

that's when i realized that zzz just wasn't the same gamd anymore, it was just master love trash for coomers who play with their hand on their dick.
the game simply doesn't have anythig to offer to non coomers when literally 90%+ of the content is dates and coomer faggotry.
spineless cowards pandering to tourists who were never there for them when the game was at its lowest.
trend chasing cowards, i hope them and their families drown, retarded bugmen, fucking gog and maggogs
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>>737301614
artist really murdered her ass here
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wasn't TV wiped as early as 1.3? dude, let it go
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>>737313910
>>737314370
>>737314498
>>737314723
>>737314882
>>737315285
Mental illness
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>>737315347
it's like a failed athlete that got injured and now keeps saying he would've been the best if that didn't happen lol
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>>737301295
Game's been out for too long now, new players and old players who quit are too far behind in terms of characters and it'll take years to catch up if ever.
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ZZZ's models are so hard on the eyes in 2026
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>>737301941
If these look like children to you, you are mentally ill.
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is zzz still funny
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>>737315696
The new patch and the Angels of Delusion one did have some funny bits.
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>>737315375
Just fuck you man, it's always the same shit with you gachas animals, whenever someone who is not coomer talks you treat him as lesser than you
I'm sorry that i can't jerk off while playing, i wish i was like that, i wish i could still enjoy this game i played since the first fucking beta and supported so much, i fucking tried, but i just can't
I guess i' just unlucky to have been thrown away by the devs, i'm sorry for nit being part of the new target audience, i' sorry fir not having dnough libido to playa dn jerk off for hours at the same time, i' m sorry for enjoying the fucking story and characters you wrote in your fucking game, i'm ufkcing sorry for being a worthless sunhuman non coomer
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>>737315696
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...why do Mihoyo games have not-China arcs despite people not liking it?
Genshin, Star Rail, ZZZ... do the chinese really like it that much to warrant such chinawank?
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>>737302995
They went too far with her, she's cringe
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>>737315819
Why do US games feature US so much? Why do Japanese games feature Japan so much? The fuck kind of retarded question is this
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>>737315819
The CCP forces it

Genshin gets away with it because the game started with not china first
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>>737315849
It's cringekino.
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ofee
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>>737315819
Endfield had it too. And like other Anons said, it's required by law, so it's best to get it out of the way early.
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>>737315696
Huh?
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I wish zzz will stop being ml in 3.0 but considerint the new designs it's obvious that zzz having a story is fucking over
Can't wait for them to release joyous as another sacrificial lamb male character every 8 months
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>>737316079
UWAAH
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>>737313941
Eh, I feel like he got done dirty by how they handled Hugo arc with what felt like a huge last minute shift.
Also got done dirty by the amount of Mibibi inspired ice hate, but that's an entire different beast to talk about. Maybe when I finally max my Knot level in 3.0 they'll have moved on to Shifu/Shungus hate and I can do a hyper carry wolf meme when I get my naked Lycaon banner.
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>>737315927
>Genshin gets away with it because the game started with not china first
Literally the current patch, man.
The chinawank never ends. Chinese culture is lamer than a negro with a bone through his nose banging the bongo drum.
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>>737315780
I wonder if yu's clit is ticklish
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>>737315819
I just don't get why the not-China arc couldn't keep the same vibes. Would it have been that hard to still have the "mystics" just sitting in front of computers or doing stuff that takes extreme focus without going full, "I'm a break out my magical aether seal now. Shifu has cultivated to 5th Dan and expanded her domain, soon you too will ascend young master"?
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The worst part is that i defended this garbage trash fucking game for so long, when people dismissed it as coomer gachaslop i told them it wasn't, i told them it had a cool story, and that the proxies had a real personality and not just bland ml self inserts
All of that just to get spit in my face, all for nothing

Watching the lore teaser, thinking that since we got swordmasters descendsnt that looked like her we would the other cool void hunters like than, fuck me, all you will get is the ml girlfriend next door
UWU PROXYGODKINGEMPERORBIGIDKCSAMA I WAS YOUR GF WHEN I WAS 6
FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU JUST FUCKING DIE YOU CHINESE WHIRE FUCKING DIE
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>>737307637
Not really. It feels like I can only focus either Sanby or Sneed for top damage, not both.
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>>737316478
You see, I skipped Shungus and dumped all resources into the funny bunny. Now I'll have Skilly in the exact same roll and as somebody I respect.
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Joyous will be the first a-rank void hunter and he will have a weakened kit and release right before the new girlfriend ssssssss rank void hunter that powercreeps the whole game and ghe fucking story climax will be our date where she tells us how big our dick is and how proxy sama used to be a demi god after fucking marie sprituslly snd then will go to her room and nolf her puussy
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>>737316529
Isn't Sneed technically relegated to a sub-dps role in a Sanby team?
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Fucking worthless trash, spent years defending this garbage just ofr them to throw it all away to pander to third wolrd animals
Hundreds of dollars for fucking nothign i didn't even ask for anything, i just wanted thr game to not vhange into master love slop
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>>737301295
I I ironically miss tv mode, at least as a narrative device. It's better than black screens.
I started losing interest in the game after going to not-China and Spook Shack being introduced. The character designs started getting watered down and felt more like Genshin rather than ZZZ. The nail in the coffin for me was them completely butchering Nun Lucia.
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>>737316607
Very based
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>>737316786
>couldn't handle the octopus
Many such cases
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>>737316860
Fucking retarded coomer
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>>737316815
Haru still hasn't gotten a rerun even though I unironically wouldn't mind his wengine or even M2.

I was not going to deny myself the chance of the nekkid Zhao banner, very likely the last banner I'll ever need.
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>>737301295
I quit because they removed TVs and never replaced them with anything that had an even remotely similar role, then they started that insufferable unending chinkoid arc, which was the last straw for me.
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>>737313996
Nothing, they just fundamentally fucked the story presentation-wise and dumped the original premise
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>>737301295
Ellen Joe is hot as fuck, but I ain't playing her """game""".
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>>737317047
>Talking about wanting a naked bunny girl banner
>Homo

I'm confused mate. Is your hatred of Homomasa so much that him being brought up in the context of free units caused you to white out or something?
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>>737301295
dead flopping shit game
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>>737317292
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>>737317358
That image is FAKE NEWS
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What is even going on in the story right now? I lost track around the horse girl
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>>737316786
spook shack was good though, the only light in the middle of chinawank
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>>737302870
Its what kept the game relevant. There are worse gimmicks.
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>>737317603
We said "fuck you" to China and moved back to 6th street to hang out with an idol group comprised of little girls.
A snake girl who's a legal slave owned by NEPS moves in with us, eats our eggs.
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>>737317984
Kinda sad she's in an entirely seperate faction instead of NEPS as well.
Part of me hopes we'll actually get Seth's brother and she'll be a good fit for his team, but since he's a guy I have zero expectations.

Maybe hell will freeze over and we'll get playable Mewmew at this point.
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>>737317984
that sounds cool. maybe I should come back
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Two more weeks until playable agent Wise.
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>>737318137
Qingyi, Seth, Zhu Yuan, Zhu Yuan's massive ass and Jane were all LUMINA branch members. Cissia is from another one, so yes we'll probably get Onii-san. I hope they patch both NEPS branches to work as one faction, though.
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>>737317358
>118 cm
>probably only like 25 kg on a good day
Imagine
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>>737314498
>they ruines season 2
Season 2 was putrid shit from the start
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>>737315819
>people not liking it
Westoids don't matter to their earnings
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>>737318501
I've read that non even china players liked not china region
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>>737317603
it's the same fucking master love garbage, meet new girl, go a date and have her suck your dick
the latest one (snake girl) has proxy protect her from le heckin murderino who dresses like a bdsm prostitute
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>>737318575
Shh, let him cope about his poverty.
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god I wish the main characters would go away so the agents can get some breathing room
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Is anyone actually going to roll for Promeia or is she DOA?
Cons:
>Miyabi/Vivian hybrid
Pros:
>???
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>>737317367
but enough about wuwa
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>>737318910
I'll roll if I have anything left from rolling snek.
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>>737318408
>Imagine spooning her naked
Yes I am
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>>737301295
>Well? Do you enjoy her game?
No, I quit it within a month of starting.

>Is it better now that TV's are gone and they've moved on from not-china?
That was not the problem. The problem that made me quit was that the game (like other Mihoyo games) was all about synergistic teams which prevented me from playing with the characters I liked the look of. The number one thing I want from a game is ability to play with the characters I _like_ instead of characters the devs want to ram up my asshole.
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>>737319121
>prevented me from playing with the characters I liked the look of
How were you prevented from playing the characters you like?
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>>737318910
>censored flat chested crap

lmao no
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>>737312998
>please sanitize the game so it becomes just like genshit!!!
Fuck off foid.
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>>737319185
Because if I don't play with a synergistic team I can't kill anything at all. The damage difference between a synergistic team and ateam of random characters is like a 10 times multiplier or more. And no, I won't subject myself to every random battle taking 5+ minutes just because I didn't copy an online build thank you very much.
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>>737319371
>I didn't copy an online build
>ZZZ
>online build
Guh?
OK now I'm genuinely intrigued. What were these "random" characters?
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>>737319371
>5+ minutes
Sure, maybe the game is not for people who don't play games
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>>737319542
Burnice with zero burn support.
I want to be able to literally pick characters based on their looks only and not receive any mechanical penalty for that.
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>>737318910
I know Skilly will be a brick, but all my resources are going to him.

Weird characters like that are half of what pulled me into Zenless. None of the 2.X agents have even came close to Jane for good fanservice, and Promina is no exception.
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>>737318910
>Pros:
>Best gimmick in the game

Taking her jacket off is so fucking sexy and cool, she looks hot without the jacket and bat-like with it. Really nice design.

First great design since Orphie
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>>737301295
Fuck, they need to release her swimsuit.
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>>737319626
>Burnice with zero burn support
I'm sorry, but I genuinely do not understand what you mean by this? Burnice is an off-field anomaly DPS. While she benefits from another anomaly character on the team, technically she is one of the most universal agents in the game.
Could you explain it better? I'm confused.
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>>737319626
>>737319816
Oh, did you mean
>running Burnice with ANOTHER fire agent
No, no. Burnice should not be in a team with 2-3 fire agents. Applying fire anomaly is her whole job.
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>>737319816
You obtuse nigger, it was more than a year ago. I don't remember the exact fucking team for you. I put Burnice on the field with two other characters that looked okay to me and expected to destroy everything because I had the new limited SSR. Instead I couldn't fucking kill anything in an acceptable amount of time. I stopped farming materials because the material fights were too long. I stopped advancing in the story because the story would also have fights and they too would take too long. And I wasn't having any fun. So I uninstalled and never looked back.

If ZZZ wants to be an acceptable game it needs to let me put Burnice on the field, alone, and let me kill everything in 30 seconds max.
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>>737320045
>it needs to let me put Burnice on the field, alone
But she is not an on-field DPS.
Her whole gimmick is doing off-field damage.
Also, you don't need to be so hostile.
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>>737320092
I do sorta agree with him that it sucks cock when an agent you really like is relegated to off field/quick assist duty. It begs the question of why even bother giving them all of these varried moves if there'll never be a reason to use them, or their kit is so dull that slapping them in the Astracole wheelchair leaves a lot to be desired.

Hell, only one character played off meta like that is even really recognized at this point, and... The people who enjoy him, enjoy him a little to much for comfort.
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>>737320092
I don't care what she's designed for. She looks hot and fun so she is what I want to use as my main. The fact that I can't is why ZZZ fucking sucks.
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>>737301295
combat is boring as hell
you only ever fight 3 enemies max and all the maps are just corridors
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>>737320379
>why even bother giving them all of these varried moves if there'll never be a reason to use them
I mean, off field attacks were here since the game launched with Rina and Lucy? It's been a core mechanic forever.
I do agree that it sucks that you rarely get to see some animations. Thankfully they semi-fixed? it for Burnice with her buff, giving her a cheeky little slam dunk attack and a reason to get her on field OTHER than to just refuel her bar.

>>737320397
Different characters have differing specializations. Did you start playing video games yesterday?
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>>737320514
post DA and Shiyu clear
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>>737320728
i didnt get that far
i quit like 4 hours in
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>>737315219
Is there any real hope of that happening? Seems like every few months I see a fun-looking cinematic and briefly consider installing it before I remember it's made by Communist bugmen with features locked behind literally gambling.
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>>737320728
>>737320770
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNTfvuBgTlc
ok just looked at this
its the same fucking enemies you face from the first minute of the game
there's like 5 enemy types in this game lol
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>>737320770
But you instantly knew what DA and SD were?
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>>737320889
>ok just looked at...
Opinion discarded
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>>737320889
Only difference is that they now have millions of HP.
Endgame DA/Shiyu is the weakest part desu and I don't know why so many people seem to enjoy it.
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>>737321127
yeah of course i just looked at it
are you retarded?
i already told you that i quit 4 hours in
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>>737321220
>yeah of course i just looked at...
Opinion discarded
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>>737321205
For me it's a big boy test on how good I actually play the game and know it's varied mechanics.
Sure, I can drop Shungus on a million mooks like the Americans dropped an atomic bomb on Hiroshima, but that's not skill.
Pic related, I still tend to fail to dodge-parry this robo-bitch's gimmick attack
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>>737321525
>robo-bitch's gimmick
Same. The rhythm is not that fast, what fucks me up is that there is no room to correct with double dash once you misstime
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>>737320889
could've looked at the wiki if you really wanted to know
here, i'll spoonfeed you since i'm bored
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>>737321663
That is the most anemic shork tail that I've ever seen.
0/10 not even a chinaman would eat that
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>>737318910
I think she's hot enough to turn a profit despite the redundancy (especially if she complements Miyabi), but personally I have ~300 rolls with Starlight Billy's name on them and everything I get after him belongs to Ramiel since I don't care for the Marcels. Fanart is free and I gave up clearing endgame ages ago.
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>>737301295
>Still censored
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>>737318910
Does she have any synergy with the other Krampus members? I might skip if she doesn't
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>>737322192
it's been 2 and a half years man
even your rapist daddy tectone has moved on
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>>737322085
>falling for the male pull before the obvious VH

lmao
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>>737322260
You could be play Mongil. It also has shit gameplay but it is at least uncensored.
Gook slop > Chink slop
I don't play any gacha because it is all trash but that won't stop me from dropping in to remind you that your are bending the knee to CCP by playing censor slop
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>>737301295
>now that TV's are gone
Ye, that killed the game for me. But I do enjoy some Ellen and S11 art from time to time still.
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>>737321953
most kiggers don't even bother with the tail
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>>737322282
>Being a VH slave
Kek
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>>737322546
or i could just continue playing it to spite you
and before you deny being upset, chasing threads of games you don't even play is the exact opposite of not caring
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>>737322546
ok mongiloid
>my shit is less stinky
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>>737322710
In his defense, both Miyabi and Yixuan teams are fun to play with.
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>>737322727
>See ZZZ thread.
>Drop censorship proof image to remind ZZZisses they are playing censorslop
>Continue browsing
>Refresh thread. Got seething (you) from defensive fan
>Get into autistic argument about a game I don't play
I love this website man.

Bonus
>I will eat shit to own the people who say its shit!
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>>737323171
bitter ahh shit unc
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>>737322696
would a female-Sheldon be a good fit?
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>>737323171
the "i don't care" excuse doesn't work when you write more than the other guy
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>>737322256
I do wonder. Since she's an ice/anomaly/abloom character then where does Zhao fit in the picture?
Diyalin? Sure! If Promeia's ult is good.
But currently the Krampies get a fire rupture main DPS and an ice anomaly DPS? The whole setup seems weird.
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>>737323886
>Zhao synnergy buff can't even activate with Banyue or Dialyne alone

This and extended Spookshack feel like the most undercooked factions.
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>>737303093
kek this gets them everytime
it is so obvious you indians all use the tvs as a scapegoat to shit on the game or promote your latest gacha lmao
Nobody cares aobut tv, the people that do are just pretending, and eous platforming, hollow exploration in waifei is a million times better than tvs
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>>737322256
no
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>>737324094
Yeah. Giving away a free copy of the bunny rabbit on the Shungus banner relegated her way more into a specific crutch for the latest void hunter, rather than meshing in with the rest of Krampus
>Zhao gives you +atk
>Krampus DPS chars are rupture and anomaly
Sasuga....

>>737324249
I liked TV. 2D Dungeon crawlers are fun. ZZZ mixed in occasional arena brawl battles inside it which made it even better. I would call you a filthy fucking scum sucking negro, but I am far too polite for that.
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>>737322282
I only pull for who I really like and want to see more of through Trusts, which is why I don't have or want Shungus, Shifu, or a remotely serviceable electric team. If Velina is the next VH and her personality fails to capture my interest by the end of her banner I'll live without her too, because I can ogle her tits on gelbooru and rent her in Hollow Zero for free. No need to blow currency on someone whose owner-exclusive content will bore me. Not like those high scores will last long anyway.
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Recent luck has been pretty great, gensh*t never treated me this well
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>>737324746
What's your kot at?
t. m8w1
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>gets a free char that works pretty good with the strongest char in the game
>complain it doesnt work like players want

no wonder gacha niggers never get free shit. They will compain regardless
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anally rape and murder all gachatroons
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>>737324949
ZZZ characters are relegated into factions, and up to this date, characters from the same faction have tended to gel pretty good.
However, Krampus is the first one where, somehow, nobody works good together with anyone else.
Perhaps that's their trademark or something?
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>>737325165
Orphie doesn't synergize with Seed at all and also got brutaly mogged by Cissia in that team.
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>>737325307
Yeah but the military is quite flexible
You can either have Sanby as your main with any of the others as supports
You can have Seed as your main with any except Sanby as a support
You can run Rina, you can run Qingyi, you can run Cissia...
I'm not a metaslave so I'd argue that Orphie is either for a sweatlord Sanby team OR any other team that wants a damage boost (depending on the situation.
For example, I run
>Orphie/Miyabi/Burnice
And it's pretty cool.
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>>737325165
eh, belobog isn't that united combat wise either
also the new faction bangboos drop the member requirement from 2 to just 1 after you upgrade them so that's fine
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>>737303093
TV mode was shit though.
The only good implementation was Hollow Zero with the corruption mechanic but having to do it every week sucked ass (and Hollow Zero still sucks ass but it's shorter than Withered Garden). They should've made it bi-weekly or something.
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>>737325889
And then there is Sprout...
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>>737301630
I like playing her with Qingyi and Astra but I'm also not a sweaty endgamer (still got 90k points in Shiyu but because of the electro buffs I guess).
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>>737325994
>but having to do it every week sucked ass
It's 5-10 minutes? I wish it DID last longer (with bigger rewards in return)
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>>737326196
at launch you had to do it like 3-4 times per week? then they dialed it back to 2 times and then one time so I already stopped doing it a month or so after launch because it was exhausting. Started doing it again a few weeks later and it was just long and boring, I also only had A rank agents until Miyabi so...
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>>737325601
orphie is an off-field attack unit that's usually fit into a team of on-field attacker + support/stun
not for anomaly teams like yours but i guess it can work with miyabi since she's somewhat of a hybrid
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>>737325601
In the most meta teams aside from Idols the characters factions have nothing to do which each other.

>Yixuan Dialyn Gote
>Shunko Sunna Zhao
>Miyabi Yu Yuzuha
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>>737326356
glad they made the achievement rewards for withered purchasable with the item you get from new hollow zero mode so i won't have to touch it again
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>>737315745
Lmao what a retard, this game was fanservicy as hell right at the start, you are getting mad because you thought you were the target audience when you clearly weren't
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>>737326356
Ah, the dear old Nineveh HZ. Good times
>>737326510
The idea was that since Ms. Ears is going to stay on the field anyway, it wouldn't hurt to give her some atk and speed up Burnice's fire anomaly triggers.
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Is the 2020s Eastern Gacha era better or worse than the 2010s Western Lootbox era?
Nothing can beat the 2000s "You buy the game and it just works and you have everything you need" era.
Lol.
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>>737326705
>Nineveh
Having to re-fight Nineveh and Gepetto sometimes in HZ is kino as fuck, love it when they do boss rush
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>>737326785
Last week's boss rush HZ was pure, distilled kino.
>boss, after boss, after boss, NIVEVEH MY BELOVED <3, after boss, after boss
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>>737321525
>Pic related, I still tend to fail to dodge-parry this robo-bitch's gimmick attack
when she does it the first time you can't actually defensive assist, it will always "hit" you and then it starts the mechanic. Here you can just press assist when the button flashes yellow. The second time later in the fight is much harder but you can keep your attention on the music because it follows the rhythm.
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>>737326705
i remember that nineveh challenge to do 20 or something million damage to it and was struggling until i got all the right cards for jane, allowing me to blast through it clearing like 3 times the amount needed
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>>737326784
>Nothing can beat the 2000s "You buy the game and it just works and you have everything you need" era.
We all know that, nobody plays Gacha for the gacha, we play it *despite* the gacha. There is just no alternative that's as good with a constant stream of updates. There is no other business model that can support this and game development is expensive as hell nowadays. Maybe someday...
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>>737327091
Oh yeah. A fully carded-out Jane was such a game changer in the original HZ.
I don't remember, but I think I used to roll with Jane/Seth/Piper?
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>>737326784
depends which one you prefer between
>spin the wheel and if it doesn't land on what you want enough times, i'll give it to you on the house
or
>spin the wheel and you can trade off whatever you win, but you can't get your money back
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>>737327229
jane/burnice/lucy for me
somehow rolled her without any seth copies and by the time i got him the meta already changed and made building him not worth it
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the gacha gods have forsaken me after I rolled a bunch of furries and lolis 2 months ago. Oh well I'll work them to the bone.
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>>737323171
>words words words
you care
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>>737327531
WEAK
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>>737327420
Seth was my best pal even when up to Yanagi in uh...1.3? Nagi/Seth/(Burnice? Piper?) was still wrecking Nineveh on the regular.
Of course everything changed in 1.4 when Mibibi went full bibibi
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>>737301614
I thought it was boring. But each to their own.
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>>737325165
Mockingbird technically started the trend, being two DPS with incompatible needs, but they do it better since Robin is built around it and the lore lines up more neatly (Hugo instead synergizes with Lycaon, whom he has more experience working with, and tends to exclude Vivian from his schemes) (also Robin works out of the box knowing you'll never pair them outside of NGY meme teams that didn't exist in 1.7).
You can say Krampus is going for the same thing but it falls flat because minus Promeia they look like a unified Chinese front. I wonder if it'd feel less wrong if they all held jurisdiction over different regions and dressed accordingly.

>>737325889
I think the idea is that you use them in pairs, with Koleda/Ben having joint attacks and Grace/Anton theoretically fueling each others' Shock requirements. Either way I don't mind the new direction since it gives me more flexibility in team building if I end up only liking one person in the faction, I just wish they'd be more intentional with their designs.
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>>737327896
it was overused
they shouldn't have completely replaced them with fallboo mode
variety is key
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>>737328127
The two-character faction era (Mockingbird and Stars of Lyra) was the beginning of the enshitification that patch 2.0 brought, in my opinion.
At least both factions brought us killer support characters that are still very valuable.
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>>737307938
>zhu yuan ass still unsurpassed
lol, lmao

And QY is the one that needs buffs
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>>737326356
Bitch, they gave you a free S rank right from the start.
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How does her tail even work? Why does she have one at all
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Help, my autism forces me to make only single element teams.
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>>737328858
Did they? I don't remember that happening. Did we get a free standard S rank or something?
t. day 1
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>>737328890
Yanagi teams?
Attack teams?
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>>737328930
Yes, you got a free s-rank for rolling like 30 times, and they gave you like 50 rolls to play with on the first day.
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>>737311412
Mod source?
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Guys, you DID place in the top 1% of the combat event, right? RIGHT? I'd be embarrassed to be posting alongside people who couldn't.
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>>737329064
I wish the signal search history wasn't ass so I could actually check
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>>737315819
Pretty sure genshin blew up because people came for mondo and staid because of Liyue
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>>737328302
Yeah. I love Mockingbird and use them every chance I get even if my M0W0 Count Fagula is almost completely worthless even with his team, but both factions were canaries in the coal mine for art direction and they suffer hard from the lack of Agent Stories. Vivian's half of the patch especially had zero business being part of main.
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>>737329145
I regularly boost noobs in Genshin. Even the genA babies in 2026 don't like ching chong.
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>>737329064
When was this? First 30 rolls were just discounted for me.
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Undefeated btw.
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>>737316786
The design itself is an improvement, but god her character is all over the place
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>>737329183
>finally got my Hugo/Lycaon/Lighter team at 100% power
>alriiight boys trip time woohooo
>mfw playing with Hugo's BiS team
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>>737329129
Actually, yes.
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>>737324929
Just M3W0 (Burnice was my first S rank but I guess she got lost or sth)
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>>737329474
I crapped out on the 4th one and got something like 18k. IDK what was wrong. The retard inside me took over or something.
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>>737328880
She's a snek thiren. She was born with one.
Then she presumably lost it and got a cybernetic replacement.
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>>737329823
Promeia bit it off
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>>737329064
You're remembering wrong, but there was indeed a free s-rank.
https://zenless-zone-zero.fandom.com/wiki/Star-Studded_Cast
The first 5 standard 10-rolls cost only 8 tapes each, meaning 40 for the price of 50. The game gave away 80 tapes at launch through various means (mostly through the mail). And if you didn't get an S-Rank in the first 49 rolls, the 50th was a guarantee.
I personally got Lycaon. I didn't want him, but holy shit, I needed him. Literally the best possible outcome.
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>>737301295
hug the shark
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>>737329976
Suffer.
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>>737329606
The 4th one was the hardest for me. Luckily, if you figured out what non-rupture characters work well against miasma catalyst (the answer is Alice) in the battle tower, you could just apply it there.
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>>737328858
I don't remember who I got but I didn't like her/him enough so I kept my team
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>>737329976
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>>737323848
Triple A rank.
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>>737330168
It just werks.
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>>737329403
I envy you. I have Blazing Laurel and M5W2P6 Lycaon but my scores still suck since my Totalizes hit like pool noodles. Thankfully I can still get my Totalize fix by abusing his Auxillary in HZ and my Encircle Prey one by running Banyue/Lycaon/Lucia, watching the stun bar build in seconds from those aftershocks is like crack cocaine.
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>>737301295
i cant even make it past the police arc, the game structure and writing is so boring but i assume this is all gacha games.
>but the animations
still boring
>but the girls
free to look at
the game is basically a way for porn of these characters to be subsidized by their players for my own free enjoyment
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>>737330168
>>737330397
Alice is so fucking underrated, given what she's capable of.
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>>737316467
None of that happened, there was barely any china in the supposed china arc
8 patches and only 2 had some kind of china in them
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>>737330463
Hugo as an aux is galaxies removed from running him in your team.
Even the brown people know that Hugo aux in Hollow Zero is kiddie mode.
I was talking about running him in an actual team outside of HZ, way back when he dropped.
Spoilers inbound He sux
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>>737328127
>>737329183
Cute Bibis
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Got snek after three 10-pulls. Breddy gud.
Not gonna build her, I pull for characters just because I like having them.
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>>737330585
These kinda complaints never come with examples of what "good writing" or "good gameplay" are. Hating something because it's got a gacha monetization style either outs you as a blind ideologue or a craven fool who can't play games without opening his wallet to temptation.
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>>737330624
Too bad that she got bnuuy crept
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>>737301295
ZZZ has such a cool setting, but all the billion different things to keep track of SUCKS
>Bangboos
>Cores
>Drive Discs
>Stamps
>Town missions
Come to mind.
And the sheer length of the story which makes me feel literally nothing. It can be funny yeah, but somehow the world itself is underused. Instead it keeps escaping to anything else but its core style.
I never played much, but when I was considering coming back again because "cool update" only to find out it was fucking idolshit I just lost all interest.

Another case of 9-10/10 characters stuck inside a mediocre af game.
I can feel like there is so much potential in it but ffs its wasted most of the time.
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>>737329183
Art direction has been good though
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>>737330624
I use her more than Shungus in battle tower. The only physically-weak enemy I don't use her for is the Isolde fight, since it's reworked to specifically shit on anomaly agents.
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>>737330953
The idols are literally known pre release characters
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>>737330953
>My video game has too much gameplay!
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>>737318575
not him, but there are some truth to that.
The fact that the dev talk said that not-china arc will end in 2.5 as well as the missing voices in 2.4 implies that Waifei was originally going to be longer.
Repeating what I said in another thread, my shot in the dark was that Waifei originally going to end in 2.7, the Angels would be 2.8, and Ramiel would be the epilogue story that would lead us to 3.X story
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>>737330718
Vivian's hand are meant to be held without protection
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>>737330953
I've been playing since launch and have no idea what the story is. I only watch the high-effort cinematics, everything else gets skipped. I was so glad they recently added the option to skip through all the regular dialogue boxes as well, I was tired of button mashing.
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>>737331179
Nobody likes ching chong nip nong. China itself is a modern, civilized country. Portraying the chinamen as chinging the chong is slightly offensive.
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>>737331179
The missing voices are too sporadic to mean anything and they were talking about the lack of proxy work, which is why the MiB event going on now is about doing the proxy work we used to do. 2.X was focused on doing the Carol Arna investigation and didn't have any proxy work in it which people missed.
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>>737331271
Everytime when I have like 2 hours of nothing to do I'm like "let's advance the plot!!" only to get, as usual, thrown into text text text text text text and 2 hours later I'm not even halfway a single subchapter.
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>>737331107
>rolling for materials constitutes gameplay
Holy SEA post
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>>737331447
COPE!
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>not china
>spend more time with a scooby doo gang, the military, a homeless goat and writing squid, a group if idols, and a group of corpo enforcers than the not china group
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>>737329364
He's unstoppable
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>>737301295
I will only be satisfied when Belle and Wise kiss
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>>737331434
Yeah, I'm just completely out of the loop with what's happening. Something about the siblings' teacher? Idk I just watch the flashy cutscenes and play as the new characters.
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>>737330817
>These kinda complaints never come with examples of what "good writing" or "good gameplay" are
the gameplay is shallow to me, though im not really an action game fan to begin with
i dont like how segmented everything is (loading screen just to fight 3 guys that dont present any challenge x 500)
i dont like the stop and start, walk 5 meters, get into a talkbox cutscene, spam skip through baby's first animu dialogue, repeat x500 (very reminiscent of FFXIV)
>good writing
i read actual books
ZZZ isnt the absolute worst (as far as anime videogames go) but its extremely tropey and contrived and it could be saved by not being so fucking repetitive and poorly paced
theyre afraid you arent paying attention
kind of like how netflix makes writers repeat plot points so 2nd screen watchers can understand what's going on
and dont even get me started on the fake dialogue choices dont actually mean or change anything
the story structure so far is the same every time (i also played the spook shack summer stuff when the event was active), theyre these discrete and predictable capsules of story where the mandatory character groups are introduced (advertised to you), they have their dramatic moments and then are left behind like its a pokemon episode where they meet new friends (they will never see each other again)
the varying production value is also jarring, some cutscenes are extravagant and well animated but then leading up to that are hours of VN style dialogue where two 3d models stand side by side while captions say *the characters then did X thing*
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>>737331637
They do that often, but its off screened
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why are they trying to make venus into a waifu now of all times
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>>737331703
>i dont like anime and action games
okay
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What would it take to make Ellen genuinely smile...?
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>>737331703
You're were good until
>i read actual books
You read books and you type like a teenager?
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>>737331807
>now
They've been building it up for like a year now
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>>737331703
You're using the wrong lens, even if those are valid complaints. Books and video games are very different and they both lose when compared to each other in whole. Hoyo does follow a formula, but it works so why wouldn't they?

Try wuthering waves. Despite the shit it gets, patch 1.3 and onwards it dodges most of your issues. Just make it through to a place called the black shores and you'll probably enjoy the rest.
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I need a Pulchra wife
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>>737331847
>i dont like anime
no, i like anime.
>>737331987
>You're using the wrong lens
i was being silly, books are books and games are games but some game writing is just really trite and people who dont read or have a large literary frame of reference talk about the game like it's joyce or faulkner or gogol so im forced to sit there like "uhh okay"
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>>737301295
I dropped it in 2.5.
The story was just dogshit and the weekly boss rush wasn't enough to keep me playing.
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>>737331853
Wouldn't you like to know.
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>>737332134
and here where i say "the game" i don't mean ZZZ specifically
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>>737331853
Nakadashi
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>>737331853
Her friends.
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>>737332126
>bitchy
>fiercely independent
>obsessed with beauty
>tsundere
>sheds everywhere
Why?
She's a shit waifoo
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>>737332134
there's some irony.to be had here
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>>737332134
I can only think of a few games that touched the perimeter of great literature on its own turf. That said, games can access things in human experience that books and movies cannot -- the synthesis between control and witness makes it easier to borrow a character's empathy. The opposite of self insertion and something only games can really do reliably.

Really, try WuWa. Between the three "best" gacha right now of ZZZ, WuWa, and HSR it's got the best use of that synthesis in particular, even if it has weaknesses the other two don't.
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>>737331853
Sex and motherhood
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>>737332524
>the synthesis between control and witness makes it easier to borrow a character's empathy
Genshin co-op
>wuwa beggar
Every ZZZ thread has someone begging to play their shitter game. Sad!
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>>737332631
I'm an Ellen poster. I can like more than one game at a time.
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>>737323171
What ever happened to the guy who used to spam that ZZZ was "black coded" because of "nigger asses"? He's been very quiet since angels of delusion for some reason.
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>>737301295
I've masturbated to this shark whore so many times and never once played the game.
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ellen fat
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>>737332921
Good designs transcend source material.
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>>737332902
He was here earlier and his post been getting deleted >>737302301 which is why your not seeing it.
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>>737333359
Genuinely unhinged people add that certain je ne se quois that other website simply can not match
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>>737332524
shin, I already told you that I dropped wuwa when it denied me a cammy
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I don't play CN games anymore (ones regulated by the CN govt) because they can get rugpulled for the stupidest feefee reasons. I gave them a chance and they decided to act completely retarded by reworking the latest area in HSR. Which is a shame because their artists are really good (visual and audio, their writing is dogshit).
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>>737334135
>their writing is dogshit
Sadly, there is a reason why the chinese are accused of being soulless
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>>737312541
>BELLE IS A BROFUCKER
people should stop with that shit
it was ONE TIME
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>>737301295
I dropped it after 11 months. Story is fine but everything else sucked.
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>go on /zzz/
>they now hate Mibibi
what the FUCK happened?
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Your housemaid.

Questions?
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>>737334401
>go in ZZZ thread on /v/
>Mibibi hate poster is here again
business as usual
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>>737334473
>Go home kid
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>>737301295
I dropped zzz early on in like patch 1.2, there's stuff I like but the game overall just didn't click with me.
I still regularly jerk off to zhu yuan, caesar, nicole and burnice though the newer characters designs aren't as sexy
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>>737334401
Because she first got Bibicrept by Bibian and now both got Bibicrept by King Bibi...
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>>737307965
I was disappointed when I saw her without the jacket. Either make her tastefully flat or have the biggest breasts in the game, don't go for the Yixuan Special. Besides, I've already got an Ice Anomaly and she's my beautiful autistic fox-wife.
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>>737307965
skip
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>>737301295
> moved on from not-china
huh??
did 3.0 release or something?
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I like how consistently everyone agrees this game stopped being good after 1.4.

Like... that's a REALLY fucking bad look.
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>>737305542
how is she in bed?
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>>737334876
Nope, but yes back to good old 6th street.
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>>737301295
Game is too time consuming.
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>>737301295
I like the porn of her
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>>737334919
What can anyone say?
They chinked it up and it instantly started to suck.
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>>737332275
>She's a shit waifoo
Not really. Burnice already showed that she's capable of opening up and toning down her independent attitude. She just has more walls set up than other agents with similar back stories.
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>>737334983
>mole
ai slop that not chinasu
and who is the fag on the left? never saw him
day one player btw
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>>737335096
I love our resident schizos.
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>>737331853
a big lollipop
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>>737302420
I didn't roll for them because of how forced they were and how you absolutely need to have all 3 of them as well as being in back 2 back banners.
Saving my rolls for 3.0 instead.
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>>737311412
and its been dead since 1.3
and gets worse every patch
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>>737335090
Did you max her socials? I'm not saying that she's not capable of opening up. What I'm saying is that what is revealed is very basic.
She's a cat and she goes meow. She's more of a pet than a waifu.
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ZZZ golden age was Jane+Seth, while the stuff with Miyabi really felt like a proper epilogue where you unlock the "ultimate character." I think AoD was an adorable "return to form" for ZZZ and I'm happy to see it moving back into being whacky wahoo urban hijinks, but I think they need to focus more on making Absolute Creatures than shit like Promeia.
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ZZZ makes more money than WuWa on average why do people keep saying ZZZ is dead
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>>737335347
Take a wiiiiild guess on who shitposts in ZZZ threads.
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>>737334696
It's fucked up there are NO adult flat characters in ZZZ...
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>>737335401
Because ZZZ is objectively the best gacha on the market in terms of character designs, graphics/animation, "generosity", and gameplay.
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>>737335475
We're going to keep discussing video games on /v/ and you're going to keep on stomping your feet like an angry manchild.
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>>737335527
1. thats worng
2. its still against boatd rule 6
3. kill yourself hoyotroon
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>>737301295
>Do you enjoy her game?
nope, there's an insane amount of text and cutscenes in it which normally isn't a problem for me but the thing is that both the writing and plot are shit (as with all mihoyo games) so i spent more time skipping all the boring shit than actually playing the game, which was also kinda boring in general anyway so i just deleted the game
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>>737335345
>ZZZ golden age was Jane+Seth
Yep
>Miyabi really felt like a proper epilogue where you unlock the "ultimate character."
Yep
>shit like Promeia
Dead on arrival
If you're new and you don't have Miyabi, fair. But if you do then you only have yourself to blame
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>>737334473
can I touch her tail?
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>>737335670
Can you stop?
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>>737313985
Chill out faggot
This game had kino moments. And this was one of them.
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>>737301295
>like this character
>because this is gacha trash she is never relevant again outside of her debut patch and only ever reappears in filler events (unvoiced)
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>>737335401
I wondered the same, then I realized that zzz is /v/ core
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>>737335315
>what is revealed is very basic
Compared to who? Your points aren't really sticking btw.
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Have any of you actually leveled up Cissia enough to test her out properly? I only ran Hollow Zero with her and she seemed like a side grade.
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>>737335258
>forced
They were leaked before the game came out and everyone was waiting for them, the devs themselves even acknowledged the leak before release because of how much noise people were making over them
Them getting a bunch of shit is due to them being a long awaited group
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>>737335928
A full delulu team feels real good on the field. Better than Varesa, but more .... finicky? As in you are heavily rewarded for making as few mistakes as possible.
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>>737335047
See >>737331523
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I am convinced anyone that actually missed the gameplay of TV mode is just a contrarian and is performatively larping to seem more intellectual because they go against "the grain".

It was literally a 4 way 2-d grid, except there were walls everywhere so every puzzle could only be solved in one way.

If the screen revealed every tile from the start, you would have realised you're playing a 2d corridor walking simulator.


From a thematic perspective with all that shit about ancient greece and mazes etc. it was a cool concept.

But the actual gameplay was borderline non existent and just a time waster. It was padding because of how barebones and unfinished the game was on release.
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>>737335657
I'm not even upset at Promeia for being an Ice Anomaly, I'm annoyed at her being another cool n' mysterious woman with standard slutwear beneath the jacket. Back before we discovered she was a woman, all my friends were excited at the "femboy" getting announced, and when I discovered she's a woman I was hopeful that she might be the first tall-flat "tomboy" in the lineup. But that's me getting into the reeds where my main thing is that... How do I put this, ZZZ characters should feel like Shadowrunners in that most of them are freaks, and the ones who aren't freaks have very specific reasons for being in the business. It makes sense for there to be beat cops like Zhu Yuan in the business because that's an iconic archetype in cyberpunk fiction, the cop that needs to get a little dirty to get their man. China completely fucked that up by having Hollow Expeditions feel more like - fuck, I don't know - superhero quests? Trigger is cute but once we got mystics and paramilitary organizations working in the open, it no longer feels like we're a sneaky black market fixer.

But that itself is another ramble, I'm really just streaming my consciousness here. The true sin of Promeia which I wanted to bring up is that she just seems... Boring? We have too many cool, suave and collected women in the game. We have too many waifus in the game. We need more outrageous weirdos like Cissia, or scheming moneymakers like Nicole, or even just slimy problem-solvers like Jane. I love that angel-named woman from the latest story-chapter because she feels like she's got motivations, while Promeia just feels like another "enforcer" without a cute singer like Astra Yao to get attached to.
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>>737336034
It's a team where you really need to know what everyone does, if you sleep on using any member you are throwing damage out the window. A lot of people play it like burst stun but you're supposed to make sure you're never capped on light sticks because every light stick wasted to overflow is lost damage
Outside of their team Sunna is the current best attacker buffer and Yu is the best anomaly sub dps/stun combo
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>>737335893
>Have any of you actually leveled up Cissia enough to test her out properly?
I've maxed my dumb snake's skills, level and abilities. Her playstyle seems to be way more quick and loose than, say, Dogwife. You hold E, get her to ya-ta-ta, get the whip attack and then disgorge venom by holding LMB. Personally, I think she's meant to be paired with Sanby given how Venom works.
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>>737331987
god wuwa fags are so pathetic
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>>737301295
Yes. They need to blow it away with floating Russia though otherwise it may actually be over.
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>>737330953
100% agree.

I thought the idea of the setting was really cool

>Slighlty futuristic mixed with retro analogue themes like vhs tapes and film reels, old tvs etc.
>Set after an apocalypse where these dark zones appear randomly and turn you into a mindless monster if you get caught in them, most of world is gone apparently
>Something something radiation has caused many animal species to rapidly evolve into being almost human
>Characters are all weearing tech wear, the aesthetic mixes urban fantasy, retro futurism, shibuya punk (Like JSR) and cassette futirism


What actually happens in practice

>Entire setting acts like the end of the world didnt happen, everyone just goes about their daily life working, commuting, shopping etc. like they arent post apocalyptic and it genuinely feels like the writers forget the setting half the time and just write it like it's modern China/Japan
>Interesting vibes and styles get instantly thrown out the window with the first update for generic mad max bikers, followed by Chinawankery, followed by idol wankery, its not just "cutesy waifu gacha character of the month"
>Story is focused on the siblings lives as hackers, arguably the least interesting part of the story and characters you dont even play as outside of the hub world

Its like someone early in dev had some kino ideas for designs and settings and the devs just turned it into generic gacha trash
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I'm keeping this as a souvenir.



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