they did it again
>>737303175its like a 4/10
>>737303175they were lazy with the environment ngl
>>737303175Just because it's Hitler-era Child-raping Disney artstyle doesn't make the game good, it's like 3/10 tops.
>>737303175It's a fair score. The game is all sizzle no steak and you're deluding yourself if you think otherwise.
>>737303175lazy fucking devs cant into color its 2026 dude
>>737303175Because Disney still seething about it being public domain now.
>>737303175let's be honest here, it's probably a quite basic shooter game, carried very hard by the visuals
>we have cuphead at home
>>737303175They're right
>reviews only matter when I say they do>and /v/ has no problem actually taking this stance, not as a shitpost
>>737303175Is he autistic? Who the fuck plays a goofy ass cartoon mouse game and expects it to be a super serious noir story?
this shit is so lazy it reminds me of those comics where some hipster roaster thinks she's Dali for imagining there's a dragon inside the oven
>>737303175its got interesting atmosphere and music but as an actual game its extremely mediocre. the fps sections and level design are extremely bare bone and basic, the enemy variety is so tiny and none of the guns feel good to use, they just have interesting reload animations, every enemy dies the same way whether you shoot them or melee them (their head explodes whether you shoot them or punch them for example)I got really bored and was glad it was over when i finished it. The shit gunplay and level design just made it a slog
>>737303175It's a literal 2/10. The gameplay is beyond dull and the graphics are overrated.>>737303547Cuphead is CARTOONY in all of its visuals. Both the characters AND the backgrounds. Mousegame devs just took 3D enviroment assets and put a monochrome filter on them and animated the most generic Mickey Mouse looking characters in that toon style. Cuphead is ultra expressive, for a cartoon Mouse is actually not that expressive in the movements. But seriously though the contrast between the barrels and the walls are jarring. They can't even commit to the style. And the gameplay is boring unlike Cuphead.
>>7373031752bf Crimson Desert deserved 6/10. Mousekino is more like 8 or 9/10
>>737303487It's a boomer shooter riding on the old cartoon shit that literally only ever worked with Cuphead, it couldn't be any more basic
>>737303175>Everyone in the thread bitching a boomer shooter is a boomer shooterJeez this place fell off. His review is fucking retarded. He's some book faggot that bitched you killed too many people in a boomer shooter. Once again IGN letting anyone review games.
>>737303801When I got to the overworld map that didn't even try to hide that it was just lifting the entire style and aesthetic of Cuphead I laughed for like three minutes straight. This is barely better than those AI games that are trained on Cuphead.
>>737303879>Entire style and aesthetic stolen from cup head >Stolen>From cupheadYou are retarded.
>>737303930No one made rubber hose styled games before Cuphead. It didn't happen, and the only reason it happens now is because of Cuphead.
>>737303175I need to stay off these threads, /v/ is going full Undertale Contrarian on this game because the art style caught the mainstream's attention. If it was slept on you guys would legit be glazing it saying "well the combat isn't all that but it's comfy and atmospheric". It is what it is. To me, any rubberhose game is worth celebrating (yes, even Enchanted Portals) because of how hard and rare it is to pull off.
dont worry guys, Soicritical made his opinion known on this matter. Internet justice... has been served.
>>737304134well, I myself said in this very thread that the gameplay looks mediocre while the artstyle looks cool. No need to cry.
>>737304105Bendy and the ink machine came out before cuphead. You know you're wrong and you tried to change the goalposts. Retard.
>>737304263No one remembers what that is.
>>737304134>it's difficult and rare so that makes it goodYour shitty opinion is inherently biased and contrarian in itself. They didn't "pull it off" at all because it looks like shit.
>>737304316Great it doesn't make your initial post any less retarded.>Muh stole a drawing type that is nearly a hundred years oldKill yourself.
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>>737304436Concession accepted.
>>737304263>Bendy and the ink machine came out before cupheadYeah, in some obscure gaming platform no one ever heard about, it only got a proper release after Cuphead, and it doesn't matter anyway because it was very obvious that Cuphead was the game that made this style popular
>>737304263>Bendy and the cardboard 3D models machine
>>737303646What about retro cartoony media that DOES have a coherent story? Are they bad because that's not what you're supposed to do with retro cartoony stuff?Seriously, what's the problem with his point? It's true; the story is stupid and makes no sense. If you're fine with that, then you're fine with it. It doesn't change the game. What is even the point of a review to you? Just to feed your own opinions back to you?
>>737304593And Doom made FPS' popular, who gives a shit you stupid faggot. It doesn't change the fact this game fucking sucks not because it's copying something else but because the actual gameplay design and levels are lacking.
IGN wonChuds lost
If the game is so bad then explain this
>>737303175>Marathon remains uncontestedLMAO culture war fags in shambles
>>737304505roight, Kingdom Hearts and Epic Mickey definitely popularized Rubberhose to the point of copy-cat indie games, dumbo. It's like saying Wolfenstein was more influential than Doom. Just stop trying.
>NOOOOOO THE CARTOON MOUSE GAME MAKES TOO MANY CHEESE PUNS
did the shills not see this thread yet?
these kinds of games are the ultimate novelty bait for twitchtroons that thinks unconventional artstyle == good game
>>737304769i know this is a troll post but i must always remind people that absolute dogshit games like Escape the Backrooms routinely have "Very Positive" reviews on Steam
Is Marathon actually better than this game?
>>737304682His point wasn't that the story wasn't coherent, his point was "this has a noir style but it's making cheese puns and acting like a cartoon when it's supposed to be gritty and serious"
>>737304593This art style isn't fucking obscure though. To say this game is ripping off cuphead is beyond retarded.
>>737303175Shrews were behind this score
>>737304978By a mile
>>737304978At least Marathon doesn't insult my intellegence.
>>737304682>The story in this stupid boomer shooter is stupid and makes no senseWho gives a shit. Just review the gameplay and visuals. You know the MAIN part of any video game.
>>737304984It is for gaming, it had like one or two references to this style before Cuphead, and mostly from shit that actually existed during that time like Mickey games, and then after Cuphead we get a game every single year that thinks shoving le old cartoon artstyle is enough to give it personality
>>737303175>IGN reviewer praises a game>wow these people are biased and scared to have real opinions>IGN reviewer says a game is mid>How could they do this to heckin mose gam with cartoon aesthetics??there is no winning if youre terminally online
>>737304978Marathon actually has good gunplay
>>737304978Yes
>>737304978Marathon is the best shooter on the market but /v/ would never admit that because of "muh kultur war"
>>737303175This game is definitely not a 6/10 judging from the art and presentation alone. IGN is fucking retarded.
>>737305297The actual gameplay is fucking shit though
>>737304978Marathon is easily the best FPS out right now, but the barrier of entry is so high most of /v/ gets filtered. So they take to culture waring instead, as a way to cope.
>>737305103You can't rip off something that's also ripping off something.
>>737303175I like the journo expected a LA Noire Visual Novel type of game when at the end of the day is just a cuphead boomer shooter
>>737304978>>737305034>>737305086>>737305143>>737305186>>737305238>>737305325>>737305401Stop replying to yourself
>>737305325>This boomer shooter has shit gameplayIt's a boomer shooter. You run around and shoot things. Just because you don't like the gameplay doesn't make it shit.
mouse was a dead ringer for that sort of game that nobody is buying based on its quality as a game but due to the creative appeal of its premise like atomic heart except atomic heart surprised me by turning out to be really good
>>737303175The $30 price tag is abhorrent. There is absolutely no way the game is worth that much.
>>737305613what game is worth $30 then
>>737305676Mafia 2
>nu-/v/ NEEDS to be so contrarian they're agreeing with fucking """journalists""" now
>>737305778I have no investment in this game whatsoever, so journos generating butthurt to others amuses me. This has always been how it works so if anyone's new here it's you.
>/v/clamors how they want unique indie games>One comes out>Nah that's shit let me keep shitposting on the catalog insteadAnother chapter once again that v doesn't play games and are only jaded fucks that likes to bitch constantly
>>737305778>so contrarian your opinion can't match any journalists' ever under any context
>>737305893cuphead at home is not unique, nor is a fps of any kind
Please understand/v/ would rather spend their entire day shitposting on some Maraflop thread than actually playing games
>>737304769
>>737303175Based big dick Mike Matinei dabbed on this trash
>>737305991Name another boomer shooter with 30s graphics like Cuphead and BendyI'll wait
>>737303175It definitely is a 6/10 game more like a 5/10It's a very generic shooter that is held entirely by the aesthetic. The dialogue isn't funny the NPCs and environment are non-reactive and the whole segment of putting your clues on the chalkboard and driving to your next destination are shameless padding.
>>737306086>a game only has a shot at being good when the artstyle is cool
>>737306160Answer the question or are you dyslexic?
>>737303870i agree but it fits with games like quake where you're a one man army, not too well with games where you play as a detective solving a murder the dev likely wanted him to be a cop/vigilante, but he would get a lot of shit for it because of its political implications so he ended up making him a detective
>>737306201>Doesn't fit in this cartoon gameIt is a fucking cartoon video game. Who gives a shit. You burn people to bone with acid and their eyes still move around. You have to be a special kind of autistic to get even an ounce of irk from this shit.
>>737303801Cuphead actually used the 30s/40s style animation as a game design mechanic since you had to account for the way those styles of cartoons were animated in your hitbox and that of the enemies. This is just animated like a 30s cartoon but has all the trappings of your average unremarkable modern Doom clone.I don't know why you fags get upset mediocre games rightfully get mediocre scores. It's not even ideologically driven shit, the game's functional but kinda lame just like Crimson Desert.>>737304769As long as a game runs properly, it's going to get Overwhelmingly Positive reviews most of the time.
>>737306160>anybody would be talking about this game at all if it weren't for the art style
The game is fun but the devs are stupid for not thinking of letting you replay levels
>We must defend an average game that is style over substance because a journalist didn't like itLol
>>737303268thisthe tryhard greyscale graphics are a downside anyway, just because it's something different doesn't mean it's good
>>737306491This was a fair point that a lot of people pointed out and fucking sucks, if you want to collect all collectibles fuck you I guess, do it from the start
>>737306423in this case the OP bait isn't about the score, it's because of the reasons why IGN gave it that score (like him using ludonarrative dissonance unironically). admittedly it works just fine as a bait in more than one way seeing this thread
>>737306539I know you're at home when screeching about troons but the adults are talking now
>>737304769>wheredoyouthinkyouare.jpg
>>737303175>Journalists have the balls to give an ok game an ok score instead of the default "no gets mad" 8/10>faggots start shitting and pissing themselves that they dared to score below the averageJournos will always be hacks, but the niggas hating on them here are only contributing to the shitty state of the review industry
>>737306818The reason was retarded, he played a Boomer shooter, expected some LA Noire shit and didn't get it, so he gave a low score It's like playing Doom and expecting Doomguy to talk about his feeling and emotional instead of killing demons so you give a low score
>>737306818>Journalists have the balls to give an ok game an ok score instead of the default "no gets mad" 8/10but journos never had an issue to take shots at smaller games, that only applies to AAA slop like veilguard and marathon. that's why now you're defending IGN for their "bravery" despite them not actually doing anything controversial (just retarded)
>>737306818His reasons are fucking retarded though. He complains that you kill too many people in a boomer shooter. He complains that the characters make cheese jokes in a mouse world. He brings up real noir books as a way to critique this stupid game. It just shows that IGN is out of touch.
>>737306960I haven't played the game but according to the review the game does focus a lot on characters and story, at least far more than something like DooM, so the guy found it jarring when you were mowing down a whole police apartment or murdering an opera singer.
>>737305778a broken clock is right twice a day. If IGN gave the next FIFA game a 1/10, i'm not going to rush to the games defense
>>737306960>game has a noire setting>it's a bad noireI'm not sure how this is a problem. I'm not a storyfag, so I don't think I'd affect my opinion much, but how is "it fails at what it trues to be" not a valid complaint?>defending ignIgn is asscheeks, I just think it's retarded when gamers freekout when journos give games low scores. It does NOT only happen with indies, or at least that's not how it always was. Remember shit like twilight princess or omega ruby/alpha sapphires? Or the fact that people still bring up alien isolation and godhand? Shit like that is precisely why they don't rate high profile games lowly anymore
>>737305461>just don't have taste or standardsmelanin enriched hands typed this post
>>737307317that sounds hilarious though, there's no way it wasn't on purpose
>>737306185does it matter, or better yet, make it fucking fun?
>>737307648I didn't say that. I said if you don't like the style of a game don't go into it expecting something else. It's a classic boomer shooter. Expecting anything besides that is retarded.
>>737305448sorry
>>7373031756/10 too much black and white
6/10 because it's using le racist era artstyle
>>737303175And they are right, again. Crimson Desert sucked, and so does this.
my game is good, the game reviewers just ignore me my game is good, the game reviewers just ignore me my game is good, the game reviewers just ignore me
>>737305297>GAME is definitely good because of [non-gameplay] reasons???
>>737303175unironically a fair score
>>737303175>Character sprites are 2d hand drawn>background and props are generic unreal engine modelEither commit to your artstyle or drop it
oh wow a game made by a single person over the course of a year isn't GOTY, that's crazy...
>>737303870It's a boomer shooter that isn't notable in any way outside of the art direction which doesn't really make up for how utterly run of the mill it is.
>>737305461There are a fuck ton of modern boomer shooters out there that are more fun to play. Presentation can only care mediocre gameplay so far.
>>737305461>You run around and shoot things.Sounds like a definition of the 6/10 game.
>>737303801It's specifically riding on a 2 year old trend, it was announced when Steamboat Willy lost it's copyright
>gamers whenever a site gives a score that's more than 10% off from the metacritic score
>The same game you've played 15 times already but now QUIRKY!!I have indie fatigue
>Game supposed to be like a 1930s cartoon>Half an hour in I meet the girl boss mechanic character that looks and talks just like a 2020s Pixar character but in black and white It deserves the 6.
>scale out of 10>it's outrageous to give a game a 66 means it's fine. 6 means it's an alright game, there's no fucking way games are either 2 or 9, there should be shit in the middle for mediocre stuff that's alright just not excellent.
they are way overcharging for this
>>737310173You're retarded and think that there are less than 100 video games out there. Also you've never seen a school from the inside.
>>737310373Is this a bot response?
>>737310173It's either excellent or not worth playing, everything below excellent is a waste a time that could be spent on something else. fuck 10 we only need 2: excellent and worthless
>>737310547I wish. That's just an indian.
>>737310173<insert third response indicating frustraton with anon for not seeing everything as totally black and white>
>>737307762I accept your concession faggot, next time stfu
>>737310810hello anon
/v/ is proof that contrarianism can be used by the elites to suppress the will of the masses
>>737307358>game has a noire setting>it's a bad noireDoes the audience know or care though? For the majority of people that play this, the noir elements are just a coat of paint over the gametype they like. Anything they know about noir is from references and parody. Noir = period appropriate set dressing, a style of lighting, the hot "dame"... some mobsters? and thats it.
>>737311514Contrarianism in this instance would be praising this game as 10/10People like you are the easiest to control
>>7373031751/10 they forgot to add color. Fucking dumbasses
>>737303175I'm tired of the boomer shooter meme desu you'd think by now we would have had some nostalgia bait shooters like the ones we had in the 6th gen
You should have seen this thread on amerihours. Every single poster was defending this game to death for no other reason than IGN disliking it. Glad there's more sense EU time and people agree it looks extremely average.
>>7373031753/10 too much cheese
>>737303175game deserves a 6/10it's as mediocre as they come outside of the artstyle. it doesnt deserve it for the reasons the retard in that review listed though
ludonarrative dissonance is a term I first encountered on vile tranny website rockpapershotgun 15 years ago. it was dumbfounding then, but what was telling about the entire millenial generation is that its idiocy flew under the radar. meanwhile zoomers attack it on sight.
I can't find any youtuber whose opinion I trust on shooters who has played this game. Has any fellow /v/irgin played it? How is the level design, is it full of arenas or organic enemy placements? How is the difficulty?
>>737313573It's woke
>>737313142Trying to tell a serious story with Mario platformer gameplay would be jarring and stupid. It's not that hard to understand.
>>737313573>is it full of arenas or organic enemy placements?One of the guy's complaints is all the arenas and enemy spawners.
>>737313631That's not even what ludonarrative dissonance means.
>only the hands and enemies are hand drawn, the environment is 3d with a greyscale over the cameragrim
>>737314053>more arenaslopSafe skip then
>$30little bit on the expensive side for a boom shoot don't you think?
>>737303175Okay but why do we still care about journalism on /v/?
Being contrarian is so low effort its not worth a conversation
>>737314397ok poorfag
He did the thing again >too much water>too much cheeseLmao
>>737315412Too much water is a legitimate criticism. Purposeful design doesn't excuse it from being bad and poorly thought out.
>>737305407but cuphead wasn't ripping rubber hose era cartoons off, it was doing something no one's ever realy done before in videogames: making a game entirely out of hand drawn paper cell animation that needed to be scanned and organized like those old cartoons. It was paying homage to the style AND the workflow, not just the ripping off the art style. So much effort to perfectly emulate that style in game format that isn't necessary, but makes it truly authentic.
>>737303175I've seen lengthy gameplay and it's braindead. the whole game is like a long tutorial, zero neuron activation. 1-3 enemies just walk towards you and you shoot them in the head. that's all. that's the game. it has no level design, it has no AI, it has no physics.
>>737303175it’s a bad game
>>737303175it's a good game
>>737305613Mickey Cum.
>>737303175it's a game
>>737303175I just did the tutorial and wasnt really vibing with it.Will give it some more time but i really hate boomer shooters.Dont see the appeal of getting a very famous VA for the part, i understand there will be a lot of dialogue but he sounds so... average on this.Also i saw that /v/ queen Debra Wilson herself was listed in the credits that roll after the tutorial, wtf did they spend all the money on VA that should have gone into game dev?Also also i failed the first "black safe" and had to reload, there was no "retry" or anything, thats a weird approach to puzzles on 2026 w/e
>>737306491>>737306598Honestly, it sucks that we can't talk about this game now. I just finished it on the Switch 2. I personally give it an 8/10. There are legitimate criticisms for it (no replaying levels to find any collectibles you missed, no NG+, lack of enemy variety, Devarnisher is OP, performance issues, etc.), but because this IGN review rated it low due to the author being a pretentious faggot, those criticisms are drowned out by retards on multiple sides of the monkey cage.
>>737317639ok shill
>>737315546Solid bait
>>737305297You're right, it's more like a 3/10. IGN really got paid on this one
>>737314397They have to recoup the costs of the marketing and merchandising somehow.
>>737303175Deserved, looks as shit as Cuckhead
>>737303268>Just because it's Hitler-era Child-raping Disney artstyleImagine being this sick and brainwashed.
>>737314397Why would a boom shoot be cheaper?
its so soulless even jerma turned that shit off 30 minutes into it
>>737317639I'm sure reddit loves it, you can discuss it there with your equals
>>737304709I wouldn't be so sure about that.
>>737303175Trusting IGN is about as dumb as trusting Trump.
>>737321130trannyera is the other way
Everyone on this thread should be shot.
>>737321130Same but the Steam reviews.
Even though I've given up hope for this thread, I'll bite.What changes/improvements would you do to make the game better?
>>737322092Add pronouns, transgender characters, add social commentary for the modern audience.
>>737322092make it a boss rush 2D platformer
>>737303175Cuphead got a sequel?
>>737305778Grim>>737305867>>737305981>>737307340Proving the point award
>>737314383Eternal stays winning BAYBEE!
>>737304134>If it was slept on you guys would legit be glazing itThis may come as a shock and I know all the memes, but a good number of people here do in fact play games
>>737322092add more gimmick enemies and make ammo harder to find and make the amount of ammo you can carry lowerfuckin Amid Evil, Boltgun, Wizordum all did it well just copy thosehell Quake 1 and 2 do it masterfully and those games are ancientnot enough modern devs play good games especially older ones and try to understand what made them so good, which is a massive shameall that time and effort for all that art wasted on a below average game
>>737303175boomer shooters are kinda shit desu
>>737324830You have shit taste and probably have terrible hand eye coordination. Probably throw a ball like a girl.
>>737307204>He brings up real noir books as a way to critique this stupid gameguy wants to be a novel reviewer or a journalist or some shit but is so ass at it he begrudgingly reviews games truly a pathetic existence
>>737325890You don't know that
