What class will you be choosing in Maplestory Classic?Can we all agree that Mages will be getting nerfed? Especially Clerics.Would you like to see some early post-big bang content like LHC and Aqua Road PQ added to Classic?
how come everyone got a code but me?
>>737327295they wanted to commit a hate crime but only got misdemeanors
>>737327295>Reddit frog Because you don't deserve it
>>737327265>Can we all agree that Mages will be getting nerfed? Especially Clerics.Some ideas:>Make pots easier to get to lower dependence on mages>Make weapon defense much more important so mages actually start eating shit for face tanking shit. The calculations for weapon defense are fucked again like before, so mages can tank harder than warriors>When 3rd job comes no holy symbol>When 4th job comes no FMAs, give them giant horizontal beam mobbing attacks sure but absolutely no wiping an entire map>Would you like to see some early post-big bang content like LHC and Aqua Road PQ added to Classic?Yeah these are cool but they probably have to be retooled.
>>737327265It's up:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owfmfViOTWE
>>737327265I might start with a mage and then make an assassin
>>737327265New announcement in Discord just dropped.
how will they make Classic going on alive for years?someone who play OSRS explain why it's still big(ger now)
>>737328224They are genuinely retarded then huh?
>>737328224>we totally checked all those hundreds of thousands of emails manually, guys
>>737328273They need to consistently add new content just like OSRS
>>737328273Just add in content, all the assets are already there.
>>737328224absolute clown show, lmao. They won't do shit just like they never do shit, they should have just said nothing and it would have been a better look. Now they're aware people were selling and that people farmed accounts JUST to sell.
>>737328330Probably asked AI to take care of everything
I always play the shittiest options in games for fun so warrior or bowman if they make no changes
>>737328798Page bro?
I always see people saying Crusaders use Slash Blast and Power Strike until level 120 when they get Brandish, but does White Knight get anything good before 4th job?
>>737330358they might fix Charged Blow being a one time use so in that case yes, although Charged Blow really is just a recolor
I will play a classic private server in the meantime to remind myself of how this game worked. Haven't played MS since 2006
>>737328224>no my .0001% chance of getting into a very limited slot beta might have been .001%the 24/7 stream of people crying about not getting a key is more entertaining then the beta itself.
>>737330691that's always the best part of closed tests.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5g9YgZMxFn4
>>737330769>No pirateThat's an opinion, not a bad.
>>737330769why should I care about this literal who with not even 100k subscribers?
>>737330769as a numaple player I think having restricted potions and substat requirments is a GOOD THING, but unfortunately people can't think beyond what they seehaving a "cost of training" actually adds another layer of play diversity, as it means you can select your training ground based on your current needs (higher exp rate at the cost of higher expenditure vs better loot aka more income at the expense of optimal exp for the level)
So what do we think?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Lmt2FhLYd0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9sO6Fk3a6I
>>737330769I refuse to listen to a numaplefag's opinion on Classic
>>737330769>27 minute videoNope. 9 minutes or less please.
>>737331101why did they add ANOTHER forest area?there's Ellinia and Sleepywood and in nuple there's Ellinel, Elodin, and Fairy forest
>>737331151>9 minutes5 minutes at best with a 30s TLDR summary at the start
do you, a 3x year old, really want to spend all your time in a fabricated replication of an experience you'll never recapture?
>>737331101It's fine, I guessIt certainly feels more like nu-MS than classic, but at the same time "generic fantasy mmorpg background music"I was hoping they'd have something more akin to Ant Tunnel, this song is fantastic ambience https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9HagZ099c0
>>737331305who cares it's cool
>>737330975He's a decently notable numaple streamer who has no lifed the shit out of the most recent numaple class that came out 5 months ago.He never played maple before 5th job so it's interesting to see what people without nostalgia think about classic.
>>737331468>decently notable>not even 100k subscribersokay so completely irrelevant niggeral WHO that I do not care about.Buy an ad.
>>737331385The goated atmospheric BGM will always be the very start of Crimsonwood PQ.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0_8MftVy90
As always I probably won't get past Page
>>737331515the only english maple youtuber with over 100k subs is coppersan and despite making maple videos for over a decade the dude has literally no late game experience in any version of the game.
>>737327265What exactly do people think mages will be nerfed for besides cleric's holy arrow? Fire arrow was already nerfed back to 1 target, and I/L has shitty damage with ice. Just their accuracy?
>NOOOOOOOOO THE NEW BGM DOESN'T SOUND CLASSIC ENOUUUUUUUUGH
>>737327265>what classAfter playing the open test for a while, I'm reconsidering running I/L mage because I'm a contrarian and it's too popular (also too easy). I might run an axe Fighter instead. I might still just do I/L though. It's fun.>will mages be nerfedCleric's holy arrow should have been nerfed going into the patch, I dunno why they hit F/P's arrow but not Cleric's. I don't think mages need to be nerfed across the board though. I/L and F/P seem fine.>content addedI don't want them to do anything that delays launch more than necessary. I would play this exact thing day one, ideally with changes to shops being available outside of FM and some balance tweaks (plus buffing questing/PQ rewards). Just let me play and keep my character.
26-year-old zoomer who's never played MapleStory before in my life. I'm in the closed beta and honestly I'm having a blast so far all of it is super addictive. I'm already planning to put in serious hours when the game fully releases.I tried Warrior and got it up to level 16, but it felt kinda weak and clunky. Not sure if that's normal or if I'm doing something wrong. For someone with zero experience, what are the most important things I should know about MapleStory Classic?Also, what class(es) would you recommend for a total beginner? I'm looking for ones that feel strong and fun throughout the game. Any tips would be appreciated, especially if Warrior (Specifically Dark Knight or Paladin) gets better later or if I should try something else. Thanks!
>>737331713>I dunno why they hit F/P's arrow but not Cleric'si think the line of reasoning is that f/p already had a good multitarget skill in poison breath (which wasn't clear from the datamined description).holy arrow is means to be the one-fits-all single target and mobbing attack, but it's currently the best single target hitter in the game and will be changed
>>737331468jesus christ, now I feel like watching that video even lessat least some numaplefags like coppersan actually played the game back then
>>737331793>I tried Warrior and got it up to level 16, but it felt kinda weak and clunky. Not sure if that's normalThat is 100% normal, especially in the beta. One of the longest-lasting players played warrior and gave up because it was too rough managing resources.It should be balanced better in the final release.>what are the most important things I should know about MapleStory Classic?see >>737328062
>>737331101This boss will be more mechanically challenging than anything in nu-gayple since it can jump and none of nubaybil bosses can
>>737331362Yeah
>>737331468alright i'll give it a watch, but 5 min or less next time bronostalgia autists need to realize the game won't survive on nostalgia alone so the team need to find a way to appeal to new players
>>737331815Fair point, after running the numbers I thought it was obvious that the buffed arrow was obviously just too strong and that's why they nerfed it but yeah your explanation is probably about why they nerfed F/P but not cleric. They should just nerf holy arrow same as fire arrow and let clerics be a split of utility and damage, those fags need to be humbled anyway.
>>737331971what about "angel slime"?
>>737331971it can't jump, bro.It has the ground slam attack like every other world boss in classic, but the model never actually jumps.
>>737328273There's a bunch of classic private servers out there that people are still playing so many years later, and a large portion of those people will migrate to the official classic world. Not to mention all the people who want to play old school Maple again but don't want to invest time in a private server. They have a few years worth of content to release between the first version of Maple and big bang, content that is already complete aside from whatever tweaks they'll make. And they've already made a brand new area exclusively for classic world that feels in line with classic, so there will probably be more of that to keep people interested.
>>737328798This new "warriors are shit" is a meme and revisionism to me, I don't remember that being the case back in the day, especially when 3rd job came out and there were so many dragon knights. The only reason the game had so many mages and sins is because the majority of players are asian, they love mage bullshit and edgy characters like sins. Warriors are for white people and other non-asians.
>>737331310you can see me in the early moments
>>737331468>commentsMan all these autists are all the same, can't handle anyone having differing opinions.Even Kobe is worried about puritans ruining the game.
>>737332452No tardo, warriors are absolutely shit-tier in Classic because it's a resource management meta, and they are constantly taking hits to their HP on top of having a high miss rate. Levels 10-20 is the hardest part of the game by far, and where warriors get heavily filtered without patience.
>>737327265>have to do a beta test for a simulation of an early 2010s 2d platformer mmo>also drip feed codes for people to even play itFuturrrrreee..Futurrrrreeee...Futurrrrreee..
me when i dont level dex
>>737331793Mages are currently the easymode class because they can hit everything. Assassins too once you can use train effectively.Warriors will be much better on release, I have no doubt about that.
>>737332081It does jump if you look at any datamined info. No nuple bosses ever jump, they only do teleport+downsmash.
>>737332649>early 2010sBig Bang was in 2011
>>737332716It doesn't jump, look at the data yourself, it's an animation, the mob stays firmly planted on the ground. sorry you're retarded.
>>737332513also guaranteed most people saying that stuff never even reached 3rd job before BB, or even at all.
>>737332076GSlime only does a downsmash, it wobbles around like Wobbufet for movement
>>737332709Archer bros...
>>737332780Cope, the gif shows it jumping around.
>>737332871the gif shows it's ANIMATION moving, retard. if we're going by animations, will and lucid are jumping too.
>>737331713>I don't want them to do anything that delays launch more than necessaryThe question wasn't whether or not they should delay launch for more content. It's whether or not some post-BB content should be added at some stage./v/tards who played Royals and Legends over the years, along with anyone who actually reached endgame in pre-BB should know there is a rather sparse selection of content and bosses to do. It becomes an endless loop of Zakum, Horntail then getting leeched by a mage in some Leafre or Temple of Time map.This is why some people believe they should explore adding certain early-bigbang areas and bosses to Classic, because a lot of the design follows a similar philosophy, it's already made and actually fits with the party grind meta. 2010-2012bros know how big of a deal LHC party grind was, and bosses like Von Leon and Root Abyss are way more fun and interesting than Zakum and Horntail.
>>737332843there's a reason there is a lot of seethe about bow whacking. Puritans insist it must stay, but the people actually playing the class are being driven insane by it.
>>737331713>After playing the open test for a whileFuture anon?
>>737331971While I've never played nu-maple, I find it hard to believe that none of the bosses can beat the complexity of "Jump over the earthquake attack".
>>737330358Crusaders get panic and coma finishers which is basically massively souped up power strike and slash blast. White knight is the one who is mostly still relying on power strike and slash blast, but their power strike and slash blast is notably stronger than crusader's to make up for the lack of any new moves besides charged blow. I had a crusader back in the day and my cousin had a white knight but I can't recall if charged blow was worth using since you constantly had to rebuff after every use.Apparently page's threaten triggers final attack. Seems like an oversight that might get fixed, but it would be funny if that works with the elemental buffs too and actually makes charged blow slightly more viable.
>>737332929>root abyssHe will filter millions again
>>737332991It's a limitation no other class has, sure Assassins also punch at close range but they have much more mobility to counter thatIf Archer's damage was insanely high then it would make sense, but it's not
>>737333102not really, we know how to beat him now. Not having binds will probably cause a bit of a problem with chaos I guess, but only for solos.If you're not soloing he's really not that hard.
>>737333102His last phase is fine in a party, it's when you're soloing you have to do bind shit and burst him to death.
>>737333102I'm old, who is this?
>>737333252average foid
>>737330496>although Charged Blow really is just a recolorto be fair most things are just a recolor. adding different animations or more lines of damage instead of a single line of damage doesn't really change the playstyle. it's all an illusion. Stuff that alters your attack speed, range, or the number of enemies hit and the effect it has on them is what matters.
bros.... the SOVL...........................
>>737333469is allergies still there? He was running around level 20-something on the 18th just KSing that map on maple island.
>>737333136>>737333102>>737333139Mad how you're all assuming it would be the chaos version. Did y'all forget that there was a regular root abyss?The regular root abyss bosses have 315,000,000 HP in their current state in nuMaple. That would not be dissimilar to Zakum in Classic.
>>737333469>people actually saying gz basado
>>737333530Why would they put a boring no-mechanics version back in classic? The whole point is supposed to be improving classic, making people WANT to play it, to give them things to do.
>>737333469man this is just the right stuff. noobs fighting together, gratsing each other, this is the soul we've been missing.
So are you guys creating one character or multiple for different aspects of the game? Like mobbing or bossing?
>>737333626?why would you
>>737333626I'm creating what I think it's fun
>>737333626in the current state of the test, the method would be to make a mage to do everything, and then make whatever other class you want to suffer and blow all the money you make on the mage.
>>737333626Fuck no, I did that stupid song and dance on private servers over and over again with bishops into NL, and I don't want to do that fucking shit again.
>>737333626don't know the meta yet, i aint thinking about that. i'm not going into the release under the assumption it'll be exactly like the playtest.i'm kinda feeling warrior or assassin atm. maybe assassin because i never actually played one over the years of preBB and private servers.
>>737332452Most people didnt even get to third job back then. Also dks =/= all warriors
Mages may seem to be the best but we’ll find out the truth when 3rd job comes out. Thats where they have to take the most care in balancing shit out
>>737333901If they bring back Holy Symbol the game is fucked
>>737333626Nah.I'll just snipe a few 4 letter names and then focus on Archer.If the pathfinder datamine is real and there's no means to swap jobs I might reroll for it if it's sufficiently cool.
>>737333014https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uBXXBbUt86N2T67HY0dQrFjo7fbOthVrWBMWfUyi4NY/
>>737333726Whats so bad about that? Im curious because i recently started playing a private server and everyone recommenda making a bishop first and if i want to main a class then use bishop to fund the class.
>>737331018>having a "cost of training" actually adds another layer of play diversityI think it's important because MapleStory has potion spam gameplay where survivability hardly matters. So there has to be some incentive for playing more skillfully and avoiding taking so much damage. And comes in the form of potion cost. Also I'm no expert but players buying potions helps mesos retain value so they can be used in trade.
>>737332929Eh I stopped playing in '09 so I have no nostalgia for any of that stuff, but I also don't know if it's good or bad so I'm not against it either. I'd be okay with the content being re-introduced as long as it's faithful to the "classic" feeling. I'm not too much of a purist personally, I just hope all patches stay faithful to what old school MS felt like whether it's reused pre BB, reused post BB, or entirely new.
Could Von Bon be beaten in the Classic meta?
>>737331305forests are comfy places to grind.
>>737333469>gzs in fucking maple islandUltra based
>>737328062>open video>see the annoying/cringe/"how do you do fellow kids" twins>close video
i'm going to defame everyone i see with the beta rings.
>>737333512is this him?
>>737330496>no mastery, your attacks have a blue swing effect>get mastery all the way up, your swing effect turns red and becomes sharperit was those little kino things that made classic so classic. Also I can't find pics of it rn so have a xbowwoman
>>737332929>adding certain early-bigbang areas >classic>adding bigbang>classic>f7
>>737328224>"Botters?"
>>737333626Running a mage first for comfy grindan and meso farming, then another char for bossing once we have a better idea of what third job will look like. Probably fighter or bandit because I think they're cool.
>>737334128I know you're a puritan, but the game is already confirmed to not be 1/1 pure vanilla. That's exactly why this >>737331101 is being added.
>>737334208nta but "reimagined" doesn't mean "rehash existing content"that's just lazy and lame
>>737333987The space time collapse might be a bit annoying but everything else in that fight is very much doable for classic maple classes. I'd say only really vellum and queen are problematic for classic since they require a lot more mobility to dodge their attacks.
why is perion so goddamn far
>>737334208Those new areas are in the spirit of classic, bigbang had a wholly different design philosophy and I'd argue so does everything after aqua road
>>737334123marksman and f/p are easily the best girls
I think it's time to admit that maplestory was never a good game, it was carried by its artstyle at the time and now it will be carried by nostalgia for a little while.
Is the chat ring obtainable yet?
>>737334336isn't the first taxi ride free? or just get near it and use a return to town scroll
>>737334263Who said anything about rehashing? You can make adjustments to that shit.
>>737334336>whole region of the map that could be for pirates>add Nautilus harbor to Henesys map and call it a dayhoping they give the map a bit more effort once they add pitates
>>737333964>Whats so bad about that? Im curious because i recently started playing a private server and everyone recommenda making a bishop first and if i want to main a class then use bishop to fund the class.That's exactly the fucking problem, making a bishop first to fund a class so you can play an actual bossing class afterwards to play the real game. Bishop FMA spam in 1 spot is fucking boring but efficient as hell. Holy Symbol makes this braindead grinding even better. Since Bishops are fucking worthless in bosses outside of rez you have to be ready to drop the class asap when its time to actually go fight.Imagine having to do that for fucking months since grinding is going to be naturally longer in an official classic server. It's already monotonous and awful to do in regular private servers. Thankfully HP Washing is completely dead in ClassicMS, but I would like to not have to auto pick Cleric first just to get ahead of the early game resource drought.
>>737331793Warriors are much stronger in 3rd and 4th job so it's nice how you struggle in first and second job, then get rewarded after dozens and dozens of hours of effort. Mages continue to have great mobility with teleport and are great at mobbing, but their single target damage is really weak in 3rd job.
>>737334386Not even remotely true. Lionheart Castle is literally in the background of 2005 El Nath at Wolf Territory V.Early Big Bang still mostly followed the same design philosophy. Did you even play Aqua Road PQ? How is that even remotely "not in the spirit of classic"?
>>737333469Takes me fucking back, nostalgiabros.
>>737334336Perion and Ellinia being so far is unironically why I never ran a warrior or mage as a kid. It felt too hard and scary to get over there. Anyway you can go to any town for basically no money as a beginner so that you can job advance without making the trek.
>>737334386So what does adding another area with just some mobs in a specific level range, and a boss you can't farm because it has a 30 minute respawn timer so losers will just spawn camp that shit out of existence add to the classic experience? There's already plenty of other areas and pqs you can do at the same level range as forgotten hollow. It just seems like an area that literally only exists for a game with victoria island being the only piece of content in the game. If they genuinely launch classic with only victoria island they are stupidly retarded and people will drop the game in a month.
>>737334448They're adding that quest tomorrow
>>737334336>you fall from Ellinia to Sleepywood when their location is completely different>you go from sewer entrance straight to an open swamphow do these two make sense?they should've added a sewers pathway map in Kerning
>slash blast nerfed>accuracy harsher than before>few instances where you can hit more than 4 mobs at a time>need sp resets to get an optimal 1st job build after advancing to 2ndWhat are these absolute retards doing? Game balance is somehow worse than 20 years ago.
>>737334706Cool thanks
>>737334635>Early Big Bang still mostly followed the same design philosophyPirates were already completely off the mark, I don't know how you can argue for this in good faith>>737334678Back to royals
>>737334926Ok so you're anti-pirate. Good to know, there is absolutely no point in debating diehard puritans.
I'll accept pirates if they add jett into their class branch
When pirates come in for gods sake make Gunslinger not ass all the way until 4th job, and please get rid of Brawler/Buccaneers shitty delays like what Big Bang did.
Game is dropping numbers on Steam fast due to Classic. It might be over for nuple tardos.
just nabbed a code, can someone pls give me a short list of areas to grind from 1 to 15? i only have today to play, have w*rk tomorrow
>>737335060rip Jett
>>737334926mapleland 2.0, which is the nexon endorsed way for koreans to play classic maplestory, is literally adding pirates and cygnus knights btw. They are classic.
>>737335097why tf did stinkwell end the event a week early for no reason and leave a week of literal nothing?>>737335060shine pirate, trust
>>737334979You have numaple and private servers to go back to if you prefer that content
>>737335129howd you geta code
>>737335184koreans are cucks and made numaple
>>737335184>nexon endorsed Who caresOnce they do add pirates to the real classic (and they will because koreans are the jews of asians) it'll be ruined but until that time comes it'll be fun
>>7373351291 to 10 literally takes like an hour. 1 to 8 is just doing the maple island tutorials, 8 to 10 is doing the lith harbor quests + killing a couple mobs, then at level 10 you get a quest telling you to teleport to one of the towns to pick a class. Pick what you wanna play then go to Henesys and walk to the leftmost portal to Henesys Hunting Grounds 1 and type "J>PT" until someone invites you to a party. Sit there fighting shit for like an hour or two and you'll hit 15 as long as you're in a stack of 5-6 people.
>>737335362well well who is the cuck now? the koreans get to enjoy all the cool actual classic content while we get stuck with stinkwell's sloppy seconds
>>737334626>Warriors are much stronger in 3rd and 4th jobAre they though? DK gets toys in 3rd job and nothing in 4th job. Paladin and Hero get to slash blast to 4th job and then get boring bland skills> then get rewarded after dozens and dozens of hours of effort. What about just making the journey enjoyable and not an exercise in masochism
>>737335507Maplelands actually imported Neo Tokyo?
>>737335129>>737335501Oh also, you can't get the level 15 chat ring yet so hopefully you can play again to do that quest once it gets added (should be added tomorrow). The level 10 name plate quest is in Ellinia and takes like 45 seconds, it's just talking to people.
>>737335507>actual classic>posts a screenshot of something that is not classic
>>737335501>>737335552ty, so what do i do once i get to level 15? i just wait until tomorrow? where will i go tomorrow?
>>737334476>>737334336am i crazy, im not seeing a taxi
>>737335652Arwen the Fairy in Ellinia gives the two quests for the rings.
>>737335653its the black cab mate
>>737335528Yes, their official youtube account just uploaded alpha footage of Mapleland 2.0 and it has areas like Zipangu, Neo Tokyo, kerning square and Rien and Secret Gardenhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cM3UY9olaY
>>737335652It got datamined thankfully, it's the same location and person as the level 10 quest. Probably not much more involved, either, by the sounds of it.
>>737335653You should have a quest to talk to Phil at level 10, go there and he gives you a discounted ride.
>>737330769>bad:potions>bad:handholdingThe irony is that you can play efficiently without using potions but that requires not being handheld
>>737335552how come i already see some people with the name tag ring?
>>737335806Content is content. The dev who apparently is well regarded in Korea should also bring over NLC, and Singapore/Malaysia just for contents sake later on.
>>737331713>I don't want them to do anything that delays launch more than necessary.>I would play this exact thing day one>Just let me playAre you planning to die soon?
>>737332649>closed beta test is a closed beta testSAY IT AINT SOOOOOO
>>737335230I don't, but at the same time I'm not an idiot who gets triggered by pirates in classic.
>>737332628They just need to focus on power strike, and 2-handing for better range and less bump damage, and one-shotting enemies. I've watched streams of people playing warrior and I don't see any misses, they just stick to something not above their level and it seems solid.
>>737335230you an idiot? one of the problems with private servers like royals and legends is that they never add new content, because puritan morons like you fight against it.classic is good precisely because they're ignoring annoying fucktard retards like you
>>737336349Okay new content sure, but is the new content any good?
>>737335507>>737335806>worldsdon't care, sorry. Enjoy the pain of CCing.
>>737335882>so poor you have to get a fucking discount for a taxiSOUL
I hope they reuse some maplestory 2 stuff for classic, these outfits are too good
>>737336392Early big-bang content is fine.This is Aqua Road PQ from the early big bang days of 2010-2012: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dA_X17eEPjUThis would fit perfectly fine in Classic. All puritan autismos can be safely ignored, some of them don't even want pirates.
I played Cleric with high strength back in 2004 beta. I'll pick Cleric again and do shit right.
>>737336396You didn't get the memo? Mapleland 2.0 is running on their own custom lua engine, it's just using worlds as a frontend which means it doesn't actually have any of the worlds restrictions and jank that artale and shit have, while benefitting from the features worlds offers to players like universal cosmetics and mobile support.
how would veteran players feel if they added global potion cooldowns to classic maplestory so you don't just potion spam to survive? would it destroy the spirit of classic maple?
>>737336469its okay they'll add battlemage as a int/str split branch class from clerics
>>737336424Why are these all female
>>737336276>wow it's not even a big deal man you should just add them who cares dude (if they don't add them I'm going to FREAK)>>737336349the problem with royals is that it has the worst community out of any maplestory iteration ever, legends is good though and kimberly is based seethe
>>737336468One of the biggest sins of big bang to me was how they mutilated the layout of towns. if they didn't do that I would TOLERATE some elements of post big bang.
I got to lvl 15 and I'm not sure where to farm now as a warrior.
>>737336541doesn't work in maplestory where all mobs have contact damage, would make ranged classes even more dominant than now
>>737336598what’s wrong with royalsit was fine the last time i played it
>>737336572maplestory 2 was a coomer game and they didn't really try to hide it
>>737336536>lua
>>737336541it would be good also aren't they already trying that in the beta?
>>737336468You started playing maple in 2010 and want classic to be like that when it's catering to people who started playing in 2005, that is the crux of the problem
haven't seen much cleric footage. is heal just completely obsolete for offense compared to holy arrow now, or is it still better for certain mob situations? I'm assuming most people haven't maxed both.
>>737336710
since ranged is king but ranged classes are for gays, which melee class has the most range????
>>737336746No idiot, I played in 2005, 2007-2009, 2012 and 2018.I'm mature enough to recognize that each era had it's pros and cons, and that a 1/1 pure vanilla recreation of 2005 would not work in the current year. Nobody wants that except for ppl like you who are extremely high on the autism spectrum.If people are expected to reach level 120+, then there absolutely needs to be more endgame content than what's available in even the latest pre-BB version.
>>737336746That is complete bullshit, most people have nostalgia for the 2008-2010 era of maple, the people asking for fucking 2005 maple are fucking larping like crazy and Inkwell is going to drop the ball hard thinking that's what people actually want.
Maplestory 2 classic doko?
Should I be in classic?
I want to play Buccaneer but since there's no Pirates on release I'll play Ice/Lightning Mage.
I hope they dont make any skills summon a weapon to do an attack for you. I remember playing my xbowman and summoning an xbow to do an attack and thought that was lame
2005-2009. Yup, now that was kino.
>>737336663why does matter if there's contact damage? you can mitigate it by not playing recklessly even as warriors. who would also benefit from their much larger health pools. even old maple gave iframes with attacks like rush if you wanted to play more defensively. either way they probably would have to rebalance the amount of damage dealt by monsters if they were to add potion cooldowns. as of now percentage based potions do have a 30 second cooldown in classic world, so they are playing around with the idea.
>>737336873>I'm matureLol>>737336918>most people Who caresOn a serious note the game was only relevant in the mid-2000s during the mmorpg boom, no normal person kept playing into the 2010s and giving money to nexon and their jewish practices which explains why the people left at that point were mentally ill or korean or some of the people in this thread. And they want to infect the only good version of the game with their cancer, it's quite sad
>>737337367you're not that important lil bro
>>737336743for % based potions like elixirs yes. but old maple just let you use like 15 potions a second if you held the button down, so I don't know how much those cooldowns are going to matter if you can still spam regular potions. unless they added a bit of a delay in classic.
I got code cucked and never had the chance to play the original because of dial-up which pserver do I choose to cope in the meantime
>>737336124I will if this fuckass game doesn't release soon, I'm having fun
>>737336074The name tag ring is level 10, the chat ring is level 15.
>>737337517There does seem to be a small delay on regular pots in Classic although it's hard to tell if it's even intentional.
>>737337517I see. For % based potions, I was thinking 30 seconds was high according to >>737337251 but if each % potion is unique than maybe that is why. Honestly, I would consolidate the % potions to be just one that heals you 100% HP and MP and make the CD 15~20 seconds.As for pots with fixed values, if they do their math right, the early game pots don't need a CD since, well its early game. When classes start getting high HP and MP and when the pots heal for more, I think a small cooldown is fine. Probably 1 or 2 seconds.
Lol, GM summoning stuff in KC and giving blessings
>>737337958lol wtf this rocks
>>737337958so what they do that all the time in numaple
>>737337015No.
>B-but muh nu-mapleNobody cares, autist.
>>737338137I love pirates
>>737335523Crusaders weren't using slash blast. If you want to kill your potion money which is a real concern as a warrior at level 80+ areas you slash blast. Otherwise you Power strike Dual Ghost Pirates to knock them back and when you get some close together you use Coma. At Goby you power strike everything and save the combo when you destroy Goby houses. If you just want to jump into everything constantly getting hit and aggroing everything then sure, slash blast everything and drain your pot money.
>>737336541Yeah, just make archers even worse. What other ideas do you have to further make archers the most objectively worst class?
if theyre going to have that character megaphone bullshit again then fuck no. i was so mad when that update hit.
i played both archer and warrior in cbt and archer is MUCH better than warrior, trust meignoring the fact that u have to go full dex to hit anything even with precise strikes, you just can't stop any other class from ksing you whenever they wantthat said sin and mages are still retarded op
I'm literally gonna marry Nemi
>>737327265I like punching mushrooms
how do we save classic world?
>>737336918>most people have nostalgia for the 2008-2010 era of maplePirates were the end of Maplestory.
no cap are you actually attracted to maplestory characters?
>>737342735Yes.
>>737342735
>>737339389but seriously, this helmet is overpowered and should be removed from the game.not sure what they were thinking here.
>>737342865Nemi is a beginner??
>>737342865Those are the exact same stats from the GM hat. This is just a reskin.
Forgotten Hollow PQ tommorow. Level 50 req to enter. Are you ready?
>>737343193is that a new pq, if so letsee if they know what they're doing (lol)
The consensus seems to be that it's guaranteed to flop. Once everyone saw the gameplay, streams, and changes, it showed how shallow the game really is. Instead of expecting lots of new quests and PQs, they're aiming towards people grinding at maps like a bot... Like normal Maple story...
>>737343519Consensus of who?The discord consortium of /v/ that doesn't play videogames?
>>737343519
>>737330769This guy isn't at least 35 years old did he even play classic?
>>737343519trythnuke
>>737343573Consensus of him since all he can do is camp every thread and spam the same shit hours on end.
>>737343519blackgoku and i agree with you
I need the game nyow nyow nyow
>retards still responding to madwolf's doomer autism
>>737343575Lmao
>>737327649Just make magic accuracy not a thing and have normal accuracy determine if spells hit or not, with INT granting it so assassins can't just ride freely on luk.
>>737343696He bullied people who played games in high school and then got into them when they became socially acceptable
>>737344484sorry you didn't get a key doroanon, hopefully the game doesn't take stupid long to come out
>>737301543>no classic boss has a"regular" jump either, they have an attack jump.False, both Moshmoms and King Slime jump.
>>737328273osrs is fun because you can constantly make progress while semi afk/sidemonitor while doing something else
/ourgirl/ is L>BF in classichttps://www.twitch.tv/athyris
>>737330769I have no clue at all how people struggled with pots early. Warriors I can imagine, MAYBE archers if you don't realize how effective crafting is for stocking up on arrows and buy them wholesale like retard. But how braindead do you have to be to end up broke as a mage or rogue? Especially with the 30 free of each pot they give you on your first character. Are people just missing half of their attacks and facetanking mobs or something?
>>737344663>keeps calling the plastic surgery face options "too asian"whtiebros we're looking good
>>737344707Nemi confirmed to love OSRS
>>737344484>create a poll for when people think it will release>personally, I had hoped it'll come out next month>majority vote was summer (at least few months out)I wish I hadn't made the poll...
>>737344909
>>737344909Pls keep screenshotting relevant info if you don't mind, I'm too lazy to go over there ingame and Niru's voice annoys me
What class should I play if I don’t intend to give Nexon a single cent of money for microtransactions?
>>737344596We'll make some memories on launch instead>>737344858I would hope it drops on anniversary or official date is given that isn't too far away, but it just isn't likely anymore. Unless they can fix a lot of things fast it just doesn't seem likely sadly no matter how much I would love to hop on right this second.
>>737344957FUCK
bruh
>FasthinkThis guy was in one of the /v/ private server guilds.
Some time...
>>737345203She's like 40, there is no way she's single
>>737345310Better that they have a more polished start because a worse launch will stick with it for a good while.
>>737345310yeah, but on the discord the very vast majority of voters said to just release it and fix things as they go, and to not delay any furtherthis CBT is truly, cock (blue) ball torturenemi just said on niru's stream they are releasing ANOTHER update tomorrow.. that's two hotfixes in one week... if they can push updates out that fast they should just release sooner with no more delays
why are keys so expensive when theres so many of them
>>737345380Oh yeah for sure. I'm just being impatient, but it definitely needs fixing in the current state. It's more of how long will this take that is on my mind now.>>737345404What gives me a little hope is the updates happening in closed test already. Have to see how it goes and hope they can sort these in a timely manner.
>>737345224>>737345310
Fuck it I'll just say it.Classic doesn't need more content.
>>737327265I dont know because I didnt get a FUCKING KEY!!
Nemi will help you getting a qt3,14 maple gf
>>737345597i wonder how much he paid for the code
It's starting to look like a 2027 release and not next month.
>>737345597>NubianPrinceOh hey, that's me.I'm also in the cbt
Thoughts?https://www.twitch.tv/athyris
>>737338367So you were even more gimped then, until lvl 125 when brandish becomes viable. What a shit class, honestly.
is it pretty much impossible to get the chat and name bubble now?
>>737345597>this was 11 years ago
>>737346201Crusader is literally the only interesting Warrior.
>>737345380The game is honestly 95% fine, and the changes that people are mostly clamoring for shouldn't take that long to implement, it's mostly basic numbers shit like more throwing out a few dozen free pots for beginner quest rewards, tweaking quest/KPQ xp gain, and changing the accuracy formula so people aren't constantly missing without heavy DEX invest (easy, just make it so meeting the DEX requirement for your gear gives you near perfect accuracy meaning most people will barely even encounter the mechanic unless they're going statless).The only glaring mechanical issue that I can imagine may take some time to implement is unfucking archer's attack angle. I hope this team isn't spending too much time laboring over every single facet of balance, classic MS is fundamentally very flawed and it'll never be truly balanced. As long as it feels fun, most people will play suboptimal classes like they always did and a small number of uber sweats will optimize the game and just run sin/cleric/DK like they always did. Whatever. Just let us play.
>>737346276It's literally the opposite. Coma and panic can't be used much since they completely deplete orbs, and besides that you have... 2nd job attacking skills.White knights can play with charges and DKs get their entire arsenal in 3rd jobAll 3 warriors could have been so much more, but nexon is a gutter trash company
>>737346231>is it pretty much impossible to get the chat and name bubble nowBrother the chat bubble can't even be gained until tomorrow.It took me 5 hours to get from 1 to 15 and that's with me crashing every 5~ minutes with a 1minute reboot thanks to their shit kernal AC freezing up.>>737346247Has it really been that long? Feels more like 5 or 6 but I know it was pre-covid.
>>737346231it takes like 5 hours tops to get to level 15 so no, plenty of time
>>737346284>and it'll never be truly balanced.It won't be if they don't even try
>>737346343>Has it really been that long? Feels more like 5 or 6 but I know it was pre-covid.NotAgain was in September 2015 on Royals.
>>737346363Damn, time flies huh.
>>737346343>and that's with me crashing every 5~ minutesjust upgrade to win 11 :)
>>737346337>"play" with chargesCast buff and spam the same skills you've been using since first job.>DKs get their entire arsenal in 3rd jobYou spam one of two skills depending on the map.You're right that they could have been so much more.
>>737336424Knight, Berserker, and Heavy Gunner should be real jobs.>But we have White Knight, Ark, and Cannoneer Don't care they can play completely differently
>>737346363Too bad everyone quit after LPQ.
>>737346420I'm not watching the video but he's probably right.
>>737346362I mean you can spend years tweaking formulas and numbers, ranged will always be stronger than melee for grinding/mobbing. It's just the nature of the game being 2d, and kinda old and clunky. As long as melee characters fill a niche, they're fine (the niche is bossing, warriors and bandits' time will come). The only truly useless class is, like, page.
>>737346337>Coma and panic can't be used muchDid you only play the class on a private server? You're constantly using orbs, even a 3 orb finisher can be good to take out a bone fish before they can potentially throw up a cancel weapon attack. Crusaders game play centers around holding orbs and knowing when to do finishers, and utilizing the stun on Coma, and at time holding onto orbs for higher multiplier power strikes. What's Hero's gameplay? Brandish?
>>737346452Nah I'm good.>>737346478I actually can't remember why I stopped playing. There had to have been something to tilt me off post LPQ; most of my maple royals memory is hazy with bits of shitty gm jump quests mixed in but I hear people shit talking the server enough to know they must have done something shitty.
>>737346534>pageDepends. Their new stun can keep a boss locked down ~12% of the entire fight which is pretty dramatic, along with decreasing their attack and defense by 20% which is even more significant. Especially with how bad Rage is now.
>>737346420Where does Niru rank on the autism spectrum? Is he more autistic than Mew2King?
>>737346737It depends how 3rd job is. As of right now Rage has more applications than Threaten for now and the foreseeable future.
>>737346786He has a boxed N64 collection. Take that as you will.
>>737346813Rage is better for party grinding for sure, but for bossing Threaten beats it out. Rage is the equivalent of 35 points in the secondary stat now.
>>737327265The Non-Install wizard
>>737346662>>737346478I remember the guild still being pretty popular from level 50 up to midway through 3rd job.I was one of the guys who stuck around all the way to 4th job (i had a really strong taste for nostalgia then) and that was when I realized how boring oldschool Maplestory was in the lategame. I beat Zakum a couple of times, but just didn't care about grinding for Horntail because it's just another stationary damage check, and the meta was getting leeched by a mage on the skelesaurus. And HP washing was mandatory for Horntail at the time, which I didn't bother with.Classic is way more exciting. One of the most important components of true old school maple was rolling content updates. Royals is stuck in the same gameplay loop forever, but actual old Maple rolled out new content regularly, giving ppl something to get excited for.
>>737346786>Is he more autistic than Mew2King?No.
I wish the game could be as good as it is right now forever. Shame they'll eventually add all the garbage nobody wanted and ruin it again, and what's worse is that now they'll almost certainly speed up that cycle to get through 4 years worth of content in a year so classic won't even last for very long.
>>737346980Seems more like they're just focusing on their alt branches.
>>737346859>Rage is better for party grinding for sureSorry bro, Rage is trash. It boosts Attack Power.
>>737346980How would you keep the game from getting stagnant then? I would imagine people would want the game to be similar to what is was at least up until big bang.
>>737347127He's saying in comparison to Threaten, unless you're insisting Threaten is better for party training?
>>737347128Stop responding to thread shitters. We don't even know what their release schedule could be. It could be like OSMS with one update a month. It could be first month release, then next month Orbis, month after that El Nath, then next month El Nath Dungeon with 3rd job, then so on and so forth.
>>737330769i clicked off when he said there should be a guide ingame telling you how to do everything. fucking talk to you people you sped, ask questions and you'll probably get answers. if you want to just look everything up and treat the game like a single player rpg then bookmark BBB. god zoomers are so fucking autistic and annoying
>>737347193Yes because it inflicts a -20% debuff on enemy w.def.That is more useful than anything to do with attack power.Many people are calling for attack power to be removed from the game outright.
>>737347347Lol
>>737347128All games eventually get stagnant. What appealed to me about MS was the endless grind. Hell, the current game is too easy. I remember grinding for at least a week to hit 30, I went from 20-30 in less than a day in classic. The fun of the game is in slow progress towards a goal that continually gets further and further away.
>>737346534Nexon need to make melee classes more fun to use like how are we in 2026 and 2nd job is almost identical for all of them
>>737347386Do you actually know what I'm talking about bro?
>>737347347That's definitely strong, but it's still restrictive. That'd just drain the Page of his MP for minor gains compared to a minor attack boost
>>737347414Just say Warrior because everyone knows you're talking about Warrior, not Bandit.
>>737333971The potion issue is massively overblown. It's rough from 10-20, past 20 you earn as much as you spend on potions, past 25 you earn way more than you spend on potions.
>>737345616GMS method >>>>> everything elseI wanna have fun, I don't wanna think
>>737347423So for party training, especially in Victoria Island only, a debuff for only monsters on your screen, lasts 30 seconds, reduces defense by a % on monsters with already low defense, would need to be recast on a new spawn tick of monsters, is better than some damage to people in range for the buff, for a 5 minute duration.
So apparently 3rd and 4th job skills were added and compiled from maplestory classic's files
>>737346343>>737346346I meant if you didn't get into the closed beta
>>737330769>open video>fat zoomer with a camno
>>737347570attack power is useless. threaten helps pages kill faster which is better for party exp
>>737347696oh in that case yeah probably, they haven't said anything about sending any more invites. they might do it on the 21st to go with the update but i wouldn't get your hopes up
>>737347716So taking an action to debuff enemies every tick is faster than just attacking them since you have a five minute buff on you?
Probably Cleric, as I got older I like healing party members and the power dynamic of resurrecting party members. Also like healers in other games they will always be in demand for groups
>>737345404>yeah, but on the discord the very vast majority of voters said to just release it and fix things as they go, and to not delay any furtherReally because I'm looking at the CBT feedback and the people recommending it are getting downvoted
>>737347943I like healing and support too but Cleric in Maplestory always felt kinda boring.
How are bishops in nu-maple? Are they required to bring along or nah?
>>737348040Solostory.
>>737348040They're one of the best supports in the game (they were top support and basically mandatory for years) until Lynn arrived. Now the party comp (due to restrictions where bosses only allow three members making party comp suddenly matter) is Lynn, Paladin, and a free spot (Kanna or Hayato)
>>737346918>Classic is way more exciting. One of the most important components of true old school maple was rolling content updates. Royals is stuck in the same gameplay loop forever, but actual old Maple rolled out new content regularly, giving ppl something to get excited for.Yeah, that's how i feel.If I burn out I can come back later and have more stuff to look forward to. I really hope it gets the OSRS treatment with a separate but similarly inspired update path.>>737347696Ah, yeah. No word on if you'll get something like that on release.Chances are they'll have other ones you can earn; but if they were based they'd let normies get it just to piss of the people who bought keys.
>>737348006If it's anything like old you can go rub one out and still be in a party 30 min later because no one wants to kick the mystic door guy
I've thought of a /v/ guild idea. Guild name Retro. Members will be encouraged to act like their old self from 2005-2008 to keep the spirits of old school maple going. We should discuss 90s-early 2000's movies, anime, and music in the game chat. Everyone encouraged to make IGNs from that era to keep the spirit going.
>>737347468>GMS>Jimmy Fuckwit spends 10 seconds trying to find out how to jump on the box he needs to get to every single time>JMS>Jimmy Fuckwit doesn't know where to go and needs to be toldGMS is simpler in concept, but JMS is a lot smoother when you know how to do it. But more often than not you're gonna get that dipshit that doesn't know how to do either method and you end up spending 20 minutes on Stage 8 anyway.You just can't win. Better hope you've made at least 5 friends by level 35.
sounds gay you just want to be the leader of a guild
Angelic Buster when?
>>737348460We can start by all telling you to kill yourself.
>>737330769EXP loss and potions I can honestly understand. But his rant about lack of handholding and no guide to tell him where to train is insanity. There's fucking thousands of players right now, ENGAGE WITH THE COMMUNITY YOU FUCKING RETARD.
Will CB get Band of Thieves back or not?
>>737348783They got added in the files with the latest patch (this means nothing and could just be a reference for use when changing up 3rd and 4th job)
>>737348460>xcloudx221 here>I made I/L wizard because it was the aoe farm meta>How about Elfen Lied? It's the deepest anime I've ever watched because she pisses herself and despite having seen Inyuasha before>Drop games? Sure lets do it *drops all items only for it to get vacuumed by a cheater behind scenery*>I'm 13 dude, why do you want to know where I live and pictures of my asshole?Ahh the memories
>>737348840the band of thieves girl was hot
Sure can't wait for the game to come out in no less than 6 months and still have all the bugs from every beta test, I bet the cash shop will be absolutely loaded tough.
>>737348840>Starts at 6Already an improvement.
>>737348904>How about Elfen Lied? It's the deepest anime I've ever watched because she pisses herselfThis is true thoughever and the opening is kino.
>>737348840Where is this?
>>737348998https://henesys.gg/
>>737348980Ya the intro is still the best. I re-watched it a few years ago and fully realized how cringe every thing else was though
It's still not retroactive?
>>737349027Thank you.
>>737349153It does what it did in post Bug Bang. You have your base HP and then the skill is applied to it thus increasing your HO by a percentage.
>>737349212So you don't have to instantly put points into it at the start like before?
>>737349153What this means is the percentage just applies to your base HP. It's not affecting how much HP you get per level up meaning you'll have the same HP if you max it ASAP vs. maxing it last.
>>737349027Seems like another AI coded site. I would look at this instead: https://ohmi69.github.io/osms_datamine_dashboard/#overviewThe guy is very active on the discord when it comes to datamining and was also the first one iirc to check out the couple of changes when the update on the 17th hit the closed test.>>737349153>Use cases: Max early for maximum HP gain. Essential for HP Warriors and all Warrior builds.Like this is just wrong. This is a skill you will likely shift around with SP reset as it doesn't really do much untill later levels where the increase is actually noticeable.
>>737349261I just assumed it was some ESL
>guy spammimg niru advertisements got his posts deletedthank you jannies
>>737349246Yeah, that's why they redesigned the skill so the first few levels aren't mind numbing and so players don't gimp their character with less HP or MP.
>>737349296I've just seen couple of these sites pop up and they all seem to be made fast and easily with AI. The ohmi one I linked I actually trust because the guy also explains some of the stuff on the discord when he datamines. It's much more trustworthy imo.
>Cool JobsPageF/P MageBanditBeginner >Normal JobsSpearmanI/L MageCrossbowman>Lame JobsFighter ClericAssassinHunter
>>737349407ohmi's and meowdb are both vibecoded, they're just the only ones done so competently.
>>737348460>namefagyeah, no
>>737349465Fair enough, I don't actually know anything about coding myself. I just think Ohmi's is more reliable for actual accurate information. From a quick look I don't see anything about 3rd or 4th job on any other site or any talk about it being datamined so it's likely just information from pre-bb hidden street or something.
>>737349027A lot of the 2nd job skills are way off and we can already see those in the closed beta as a reference. So 3rd job skills are fictitious. Example, Crossbow Mastery does not give accuracy. Not only that it only denotes Mastery 1, 2, 3, ect. Also base mastery is at 27% and it goes up 6% per stage of mastery.
i played some maplestory classic beta i got me to level 20 and bought myself a metal wand and hat which in hindsight might have been questionable choices but whats done is done
Was bossing really that important back in the day?I was level 80 and the only bosses I've ever killed were either from PQs or from the Dojo
this is the best maplestory player, does your room look the same?
>>737327265>Mages will be getting nerfed? Especially Clerics.Clerics now shoot more arrows than Hunters and Crossbowmen. Mobbing non-undead monsters used to be the main weakness for Clerics which made them somewhat more balanced. Now they have no weakness despite heal being nerfed.
>>737349656For PQs definitely
>>737349668>this is the best maplestory playerno, this is
>>737349712>player(s)*
>>737349656Most people didn't get there, but when you did you did want to have some people to boss with so you had a chance to make some money or net some decent items. They're also good exp as well.
>>737349593Tranny kys
>>737349754get a code then you can talk shit
>>737349593Nice hat and I also like the ribbon bow on the cat.
>>737349779There's going to be an Open Beta and your bought key will be worthless, troon.
>>737349668the nose knows
>>737349554the big issue with a lot of these sites is that a lot of them are using old data because they can't be assed to use the datamined stuff. ohmi just gave the datamined information to claude, so it's all accurate. the only things that are iffy are damage and avoid formulas because we have so little information and that's all handled serverside, so the people who make sites like this need to work with the community to figure it out which is what's happening in the 'cord already. 3rd and 4th job aren't in the game, sites listing those are because they asked claude to add it without actually knowing it wasn't in the game.
Page. I'll feel unique if nothing else
Is he right, /v/?
his toon thing is ai so no
his char is AI so yes
>>737348460>>737348904This made me look over the 2003-2008 anime catalog and damn we didn't know good we had it. There's about 10-20 worth watching per year. I did a cursory glance at 2020-2025 and found maybe 3-5 that I'd want to watch.
>>737350213No. This guy unironically has some vendetta against Maplestory Classic and has made some of the stupidest claims ever.i remember one of his videos got recommended to me talking about footage taken at the PC offline test and he went on some rant about how "things are different and easier" because he saw people killing Mixed Golems easily.
>>737350312There's been more anime and manga made in the last 10 years than the previous 60 combined.As you can imagine it's mostly plagiarism.
>>737332452You're retarded. Not all Warriors were DKs or even Spearmen who had the benefit of HB. No one, I repeat NO ONE wanted Pages in their party for Deep Sleepywood farming pre third job because they were for all intents and purposes just 1st job warriors. PG absolutely did not scale well and Threaten was useless outside of pulling. It was worse when third job came out because their fancy new attack could only be used once per buff and it was so slow to constantly reapply a charge that you were better off just using slash blast. Beyond classic, White Knights were only redeemed by having Heavens Hammer and finally being able to use their CB without reapplying their buffs, which is hardly anything to brag about when Heroes were enjoying the fruits of their labor with Brandish.
>>737350112Aye, the formula stuff and calculations are a bit more difficult to get right from what I've also seen. I mainly just treat the discord as more of a forum so I can stay up to date with datamined information and everything else regarding classic. I just happen to enjoy this stuff and to know more about the game.I also thought it was funny how much people were dooming over the nerfs from the cafe to closed test and saying how assassins were completely gutted and it's so over they even lost a little bit of range so they aren't the same as archers. Then it turns out assassins are just fine and currently due to drain honestly just broken. While it's nice to have the information early I really do think some of the stuff needs to be seen how it actually plays out in the game.>>737350213I don't think it's ready for release either, but that just depends how long it takes them to adjust and fix things. If they do it fast enough and honestly it's not like they are going to get everything right anyways, I don't see why they would push release far away. That's how this message from Nemi seemed to me as if they just keep changing and testing it is going to take forever.
>>737350536It's because Assassin mains are fragile. Anything that could possibly make them more in line with being comparable power with some of the other classes and they begin melting down that the class is unplayable dog shit. And the class still remains as one of the best ones.
I'm not 12 anymore, sorry.Can I have an offline version or private server with 10x exp and drop modifiers please?
those exist and have existed for years you can play them if you want
>>737350213He kinda of isIn that video he talks about how armor doesn't reduce that much damage taken and I agree, Defense should be more useful
>>737350717What if we just buffed the bad classes so they're decent instead of nerfing everything
>>737350893well then the game gets easier overall and the fundamental experience is changed
>>737350893that's what nu-maple did though
>>737350893Then the people that play the more powerful classes will whine because they aren't gapping the gimped classes and that it's unfair they put that sort of time/meso/real dollars into their character for the developer just to make it irrelevant.
>>737350939>the fundamental experience is changedIt's shit to begin withAnd you can make bad classes good without having the game not feel classic.
>>737351060Such as?
>>737350717I really don't think they'll get the balance right, but I do hope it will be in a better state. Ultimately this doesn't really matter for me since I have the time to play the game which means I'll progress regardless which class I pick. I'm just concerned if left in a bad state it would filter too many people and having a healthy population in an mmo is very important.Even with nerfing drain from this closed test. Assassin would still be a good pick just because it has so much going for the class. What the future of 3rd job and 4th job bring is left to see when that happens, but I really doubt assassin would ever fall off just because it has plenty of things keeping it afloat.>>737350893You have to nerf if you go down the route of making bad decisions from the start. Just bringing up everyone to NL dps or FMA leech levels makes the game broken and having to be balanced around that levels of power. In hindsight you wouldn't have this issue by not creating such an awful balance in the first place, but we got what we got. Some of the things currently does look a bit bad in regards to balance, but that still is left to be seen what happens after this and again the later jobs and levels and areas can all affect the state very much.
>>737350893Well, they should do that too. But outliers like assassin were so far ahead that they took a nerf bat right to the balls and jogged it off. Now they're fine where they are.And no matter what kind of balancing they settle on for first and second job, they can and probably will shit the bed when third job comes into the mix.
Anybody keeping tabs on any higher level bandit players? How are they?
Does anyone have the exploit that just lets you into CBT? I'm not paying a chink for a code.
yes i have the exploit it's called being luckybut it ends in a couple days anyway
How many hours until Forgotten Hollow drops?
>>737350736ye, just local host your own ms server and connect to it.
I got to 15 in the beta and stopped just so I could get the cosmetic items. I don't want to get burnt out before the official release :)
Should Aqua Road PQ be integrated into Classic when Aqua Road drops?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dA_X17eEPjU
Should Anonymous be added into Classic?https://youtu.be/-qHEM0fesq4
What do you guys think of Fire/Poison so far?https://www.twitch.tv/ereklo_game/clip/AffluentCovertLardBibleThump-5q7WTdOxDps_VRxG
>>737349261>Soul Arrow still doesn't take the damage from your current arrowsOkay cool
>>737350213His criticism is fine but overexaggerated. The consequence of the wdef formula being wonky is that you have to chug potions more or facetank less. It's not game-ruining and 75% of the players won't even realize it's a problem because they're running a ranged class.
>>737351690Deep Aqua won't even be out when Aqua Road comes out.
>>737351854Yes it will.The deep part should be re-done though, it was always stupid how it was so close to town.
>>737351741https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkPACKdogNU
alright, i took fate into my own hands and scammed an ebay seller for a key. now i feel kinda bad lol
>>737351880Not everything should be a trek like Z4.
>>737351671sex
>>737351643It's still 30mins before it's even 21st in California. I would say ~6h if they decide to do the maintenance around 5am like the one on friday. And that would take couple hours probably? So could be something like 8h-12h from now.>>737351671You'll do overtime on launch for this.>>737351741This clip is growing on me even more. I could see poison training actually being pretty good since you can easily gather up mobs and blow em up. I think the real barrier currently for a lot of situations is the potion cost limiting your options of doing stuff like that.>>737351742From a quick search it seems to be working in the current closed test. Not 100% sure, but seems like it does take into account the highest watk arrow.
>>737351931Who said "everything" should be?Aqua Dungeon is one of the instances where it makes sense. A "Deep Sea Gorge" is generally very far below the surface, and takes a lot of time to reach. It shouldn't be behind some cave prop one map away from town.
>>737352000No, fuck off. A retard like you has no say in a fun place like Aqua.
>>737352042Nah you're just an idiot who wants everything to be easymode. Aqua Road was always a rushed area and easily could've been made better. It is not my problem you are too dumb to not appreciate the feeling of adventure.
>>737352076Kick up whatever mud you want. Aqua Roads maps will be structured the same as in OSMS. You can fellate your fantasy here in vain.
>>737351741Funny thing about this clip was he was the first Fire/Poison mage in the beta, but before advancement, everyone in the chat was telling him to go I/L or Cleric because F/P was trash, saying Fire Arrow was nerfed. Nobody even gave Poison Breath a chance because it was so worthless in vanilla and the datamine didn't reveal it's true power.
>>737352181Sorry idiot but you don't actually know what they're going to do. Maybe they will keep it easymode for puritan morons like you, or maybe they will take the liberty to flesh it out more as originally intended.
>>737352226Lol
>>737352192Was Poison Breath like this in the in-person beta? If so, did NO ONE look at it?
>>737352267You've lost the argument. Thank you for conceding.
>>737352310LOL
>>737352349Easy win for me :)
>>737352360Kid goes onto 4chan to win things.
>>737352192Poison brace is still inferior to holy arrow and lighting bolt
>>737352423It actually has advantages over lightning bolt because it's ranged.Lightning bolt means guaranteed pot burn unless you have a camping spot (exists on lorangs I guess, but those maps are always full).
>>737352192nta but I still think poison breath can work. It does hit less and the DoT isn't anything amazing either. However it's very easy to mob with due to the explosion being rather generous and mages can just tele>poison>tele>poison and gather up monsters and then just spam it. I think the main issue is just that sort of playstyle is higher potion cost which means that starting out it doesn't work too well. Would be easier to say how good it is if there was footage of someone actually doing this in a good map.I also learned from watching dino that poison and fire damage can be applied at the same time and they don't overwrite each other. I could see this being nice later on in the future if they allow the dots to do decent damage and enable the playstyle more.>>737352523That Lorang spot is wild and I hope they change it. So far every other training spot or atleast the comparable one being Lupins has no safe spotting and burns a bit more potions. Lorang map has straight up afk tier spots.
>>737352423I'm fine with that. Clerics will prefer undead areas and won't scale into third job, and I/L can keep their title as best AoE grinder at the cost of lots of potions. I won't be a Lorang in a bucket trying to drag everyone else down.
>>737352694>I'm fine with that. CI'm not and we don't know the future of each classF/P doesn't deserve to be shit 20 years later
>>737352732Is it shit? That clip I saw of breath range and damage looked pretty good, and that was level 1. Fire arrow has a lot of places to take advantage of weakness. I guess if you compare to anyone better then you then yeah, they're shit. They used to have nothing but single target.
>>737352694>I'm fine with that. Clerics will prefer undead areas and won't scale into third jobAre you an actual retard bro? Priests are one of the best and most valuable 3rd jobs in the game.It is embarrassing that they have the best single target skill in the game. This is for non-holyweak mobs too.
Just saw Niru run by me ingame while I had his stream open on my second monitor. It's a bummer to think the game won't feel this small and connected once it launches.
>>737353057Alphas and betas for games have a little bit of charm to them that exists because the game isn't out yet or populated enough. I'm slightly worried just how bad the launch will be when it comes to maple island. The closed test launch was wild seeing Jr. Sentinel being spawncamped by like fifty people and the boxes same thing. Some deciding to just skip them entirely because of this.Well not that I actually experienced any of this myself since I didn't get in haha.
>>737353049>Priests are one of the best and most valuable 3rd jobs in the game.Yeah, because of Holy Symbol. That and Holy Arrow are both probably getting nerfed. Every avenue of discussion for this game is dooming as if the changes in this blatantly flawed beta are final.
Are people here really attracted to this?
>>737353284yeah
>>737330769>no piratesYikes not installing this shit
I'm only going to play the class that the least amount of people play so I can be a special snowflake.I know for a fact that everyone is going mage/theifSo it should be a tossup between warrior/archer right?Is Marksman more or less popular than Bowman?
It's a little sad that old school maple ended up just being a mismanaged closed beta and streamerbait
>>737352694Heal does a lot less damage against undeads so Clerics don't get easy grinding against zombies anymore.As much as I shit on mages, I don't think they should have gutted this, the real problem was always Holy Symbol and Genesis.>>737353230Holy Symbol needs a flat out removal, there is no salvaging free EXP skills at all.
>>737353764We don't know what will change from this test and whatever happens untill launch.Depending on the changes it might shift attention a lot when it comes to picking a class. For now I'd say the least played class will be Bowmaster and Marksman. Warrior will be played more for sure. There might be some people looking to go Marksman for similar reasons as yours or to see it out if it'll be different this time. I'm personally going Marksman as I'm on a heavy dosage of hopium, but also don't feel like playing mage or warrior again, even if warrior is tempting.But if you would say from this test alone it would be Mages>Thieves(mainly assassin)>Warrior>Archer when it comes to popularity imo.
>>737353806They probably killed it and MP Eater as collateral because Clerics were literal printing presses starting as early as the 40s. All that undead shit is also conveniently holy weak, so they won't even feel the difference in switching to holy arrow.
>>737327265Warrior probably, did it as a kid since I liked the idea of doing big damage and stuck to it since. I might try Mage for another character, but we'll see.
>>737353764100% archer. Marksman was less popular but that's based on old meta; might be a more even split this time around. I would say Page is the least popular, but there's a lot of noisy hipsters that pick it for that same reason.
Will Matt be the first level 50 archer?
>>737352559>That Lorang spot is wild and I hope they change it. So far every other training spot or atleast the comparable one being Lupins has no safe spotting and burns a bit more potions. Lorang map has straight up afk tier spots.When Orbis, and Ludibrium come out, I assure you the Lorang map won't be overly contested as much.
>>737327265i will be playing for the first time and picking the one closest to a priest
>>737354135Have to see how forgotten hollows is aswell. That and I really do hope they are prepared with a lot of channels on launch. I don't mind partying up at all, but if a lot of maps are just full around the clock it's a bit lame. Granted I'd just grind somewhere else anyways if a party is full.Depending how long Orbis and Ludibrium are from launch I might level past them, but that's not really an issue for most players. I do like the idea of being able to join PQs even if you are past their level as it would be fun to do LPQ or even do KPQ at times with new players etc.
>>737354283>I do like the idea of being able to join PQs even if you are past their level as it would be fun to do LPQ or even do KPQ at times with new players etc.Is that confirmed? Or did Nemi mention it, granted it should already be a thing since being level locked out of PQs is really fucking gay.
>>737354367Image from someone on the discord, but yeah it isn't level capped anymore. The party leader is the only one who has to be in the level range so you do need one person 21-30.I do like the idea a lot as long as it doesn't get out of hand with high levels speed running them. Might be a reason why it's currently so low in terms of experience and rewards are well that's up to rng. That and PQs do have the "puzzle" stages that can't really be sped up with damage regardless if you are level 21 or 200.I do think they need to buff the experience in KPQ or something atleast as currently it is not really good at all. Outside of the bonus stage being an alright instanced training map which is good to keep in mind for launch.
>>737354509>I do like the idea a lot as long as it doesn't get out of hand with high levels speed running them. Might be a reason why it's currently so low in terms of experience and rewards are well that's up to rng. That and PQs do have the "puzzle" stages that can't really be sped up with damage regardless if you are level 21 or 200.>I do think they need to buff the experience in KPQ or something atleast as currently it is not really good at all. Outside of the bonus stage being an alright instanced training map which is good to keep in mind for launch.I think they don't want PQs to be EXP sources but if they're going to do that then PQs need to have substantially better item/meso rewards.
>>737354563The point is they provide tons of core crafting mats and then the unique equip rewards you'd expect, they're pretty well balanced desu. I think they should probably add in higher weighting to pots over crafting mats though.
/msg/ here we hate the classics
>>737354563I do think PQs should give some experience or indeed up the reward ratio as otherwise they are just really forgettable sadly. They can be really fun to do and I hope they change the experience and rewards making them a bit more fulfilling to do.It's the same with quests as currently they are extremely bad. Both experience and rewards are so bad you could double or triple it and it would still be fine. There is also inconsistencies between some quests being much easier to do that reward you more in comparison to something that needs etc materials and more time. I'm basing these on how I've seen from streams, but I would say if quests don't receive a hefty increase in experience and rewards they will be a complete waste of time outside of pure personal fun of doing them.
>>737354782Agreed. Having multiple ways to play the game to level up is always a good thing. If there is going to be no upper level cap for PQs, then the reduced EXP rates is probably done in response to that. A better approach would be to reduce EXP only when there's a high level in the party or if you've done too many in a row. As it is, it's not really worth doing more than once.
>>737355226for EXP no, but how about the boxes that give potions and crafting mats which are seeming like the only way outside of 1/1k or rarer drops from mobs for level 30+ equips?
>>737355328>give potions and crafting mats>rarer dropsWhy not? Introduce quests/turn-ins for the unlucky that provide valuable items as a guaranteed reward so people have a reason to keep doing PQs.
how about just limit it to level 30 again and bring the old exp back
You don't even need to limit it to 30. The XP isn't anywhere close to being as good as it would be if you just grinded in a party
>>737355429They ALREADY DO THAT you fucking mongoloid, I'm saying the exp is where it is because unless you want to blow mesos buying crafting mats from other players you're grinding PQ to get screws, processed cloth, wool, wood, etc.They don't NEED to make sweeping changes, the sweeping changes were bringing these boxes in. You even get to stockpile them for big ass dopamine gains like caskets in runescape.
>>737354781based
>>737355537I was agreeing with you. Calm your mantits, you're being emotional..
F/P is the strongest now.>Newly buffed Fire Arrow now does the 2nd most single target damage after Bandit's Savage Blow if you hit something weak to Fire, and is ranged so it's way easier to use>Sin is heavily nerfed>Cleric's heal is HEAVILY nerfed and they have to train with Holy Arrow now
one thing from the beta that i think is interesting is first job magicians overwhelmingly run energy bolt over magic clawwhich in 2000s maplestory and on private servers, was practically unheard of
>>737355892Well Energy Bolt got buffed it literally does more damage and costs less MP now, it's just a projectile so it doesn't hit as easily as Magic Claw. Pretty fair tradeoff.
>>737355892>>737356053Magic claw actually does more damage. It's just more expensive to use
>>737356053It does cost less MP and SAYS it does more damage, but it was discovered that Claw is actually stronger due to damage calc shenanigans favoring multiple hits. Same reason holy arrow is so strong.
>>737356101The issue is it only does more damage at like level 10 or 11, that's a massive amount of levels to put in for it to be barely scraping past bolt.
its fun but party xp rates are so high i feel im leaving too much on the table solo grinding.ppl actually wear class gear (cool) and random equip drops =/= mesopeddlers in town are a blight on my third space but nemi says theyre considering removing it||buy my wares||
>>737356101Wrong. Energy bolt has 65 skill attack. Magic Claw has 30 x 2 Skill attack. Magic claw does 5 less damage if you add both hits together.It used to be the other way around, where Energy Bolt capped at 55 so Magic Claw did 5 more.
>>737356152Where'd you train from 10 onwards
>>737356181People already tested it anonYou're looking at raw numbers not the actual calculations
>>737356207keep slash blast and power strike at 7 for conserving mp so you don't go brokesnails hhg1 -> slime tree -> green mushrooms -> bubblings/octo -> z mushdexmaxxing is unironically good for consistent damage and accuracy. will reset to mostly STR with 2nd job mastery
>that announcement last night renewed all the keywhining>retards think that nexon saying "we tried to make sure we didn't give to bots" means "We think you're a bot if you didn't get a key"fucks sake they should have just said nothing. They're tarnishing the shit out of this for no reason at all lmao, I wonder why.
>>737356210Then I think it's a problem with the displayed numbers being different from the real numbers, they probably intended to buff Energy Bolt but never actually did it besides changing the description
>>737356375keys should have just been given to anyone who watched someone who got ones twitch stream for 2 hours
>>737356181
>>737356152>party xp rates are so high i feel im leaving too much on the table solo grinding.I'm somewhat conflicted on this.On one hand I do like to encourage social interaction and it helps with congestion in grinding zones.On the other it makes non party play feel like absolute ass so why bother grinding if you come in late or don't have a group.I think I prefer the former more but I think they can find a good balance between the two.
>>737356432That would have been one play, yeah.The smart thing to do would have just been tying access to the accounts, they made us sign in to our nexon accounts for the signup, so why did they just send a random ass key not tied to anything? That just guaranteed everyone would spam signups.
>>737356335Did you level slash blast and power strike first? I was maxing the accuracy skill so I could hit stuff first. And I assume each group is for each 5 levels?
>>737356101it's not as simple as thatmagic claw has higher damage yes but it's also going through defence twice, which at the levels you will be using it does have an impactand with mp efficiency mattering a lot more now that you have to buy your pots, it's a big differenceanyway its a neat meta shift>>737356459this is ai slop and is also wrong, energy bolt ignores terrain, in fact i believe all the player's "projectiles" in classic deal their damage immediately and don't interact with terrain>>737356483um you go on a map and if there's other people fighting there you say "party?" and you'll usually get an inviteeven if you don't say it if you start killing monsters the leader will typically come over and invite you anyway
>>737356698seeing other people on my map pisses me the fuck off
>>737356483full parties on the best sleepywood maps does discourage grinding so much so that i fucked off to grind meso. more channels in release means you wont have to choose.you can always look for the few solo maps like end of kerning jump quest bonus room>>737356509your ctrl key is your best friend until you have decent meso for pots or you know the thresholds for one/two shotting mobs while staying meso neutral/positive. accuracy wont matter until you move up to green mushroom or bubblings. SP/AP resets are nigh free rn so play around
>>737356698Yeah, I know what a party is.I'm just saying it encourages social gameplay and later on when there's less people in lower level areas (you see this in current maple & pservers) you're taking twice as long to hit the same milestones as a 6man group with current rates.
>>737356698>Using the lame ball is a "neat meta shift"The word you are looking for is lame and gay
>>737328224>tfw they asked AI to remove the botted emails>but there were so many botted emails that AI believed the real emails were the botted ones, and so those are the emails that got removed from the pool>this explains how scalpers ended up with 60k codes
>>737350893That is unironically what big bang did, but retards constantly cry about it because they changed a few maps in Victoria Island. It's extra ironic because private servers often downport big bang balance changes.
>Have a 20+ yr old e-mail with nexon and didn't get a code>have to literally use an exploit to get on the CBT
>>737356928What exploit
>>737356483I felt conflicted at first too but 90% of the time I just walk in and type "j>pt" and I get an invite. The other 10% it's just a little awkward when you're the 7th person on the map, and if that happens I just train somewhere else or CC.
>have a 20 year old nexon account>spent thousands of hours and a gorillion hours on MS>didn't get a code>have to literally break into someone's house, bind them to a chair, and play the CBT on their computersmdh
what if I am a dual blade and...solo level
I got my key on ebay, and just said the key didn't work, got a refund in like 6 hours.
do you only have to do the level 10 and 15 quests for the rings on one of your characters for it to carry over to the official launch? or on your alts too?
>>737357525You physically can't do the quest on multiple characters in the beta
>>737357525I am fairly sure it's only on one character. They are untradeable and we do not know if we will get shared cash shop in classic. I also do not think you will get multiple rings if you do it on alt characters.They can be something you can infinitely redeem on all new characters you create in classic or it's just a one time thing on the first character you redeem them on. Maybe moving through cash shop storage between characters, or maybe not, we don't know.
>>737357525You can only do them on one character, the quest won't even appear on alts. This also means the rewards are limited to only one char which presumably will only be the case in this test, and in the final release any char you make can equip the rings.
>>737356868i assume that in release, funded magicians will use clawit's just no one is funded right now
anyone know what time today the level 15 ring quest comes out?
>>737357673After maintenance, so mid day in worst korea.
>>737357673No official announcement has been made about the maintenance time yet. It could start in 2 hours since they pushed the first maintenance that was meant to be today to 17th on friday which started at 5am and lasted for 2 hours.However there is still nothing regarding the actual time from ingame message or on the website so it's just guessing for now.
I need someone to find these dipshit gooks and tell them that nobody in the entire world lets people play their online game in tiny bursts before going radio silent working on player feedback for several months then repeating the process so release gets delayed well beyond the point of capturing a hype window. Just release the fucking game and drop balance patches as you go like any other online game in the past 15 years. Are they actually retarded? The possibility that this thing sits on ice for 6-8 more months at minimum because they think they can achieve perfect day 1 class balance then choosing to achieve that balance as inefficiently as humanly possible makes me see red.
>>737357752Do you really expect anything from these shitty korean gaming companies? Think of all the failed mmos and bullshit that came outta korea.
>>737357752They want you to play real maple instead because the anniversary event literally starts when the closed test ends
>>737357752The whole point is to give people a taste, they have the launcher installed, they may try regular maple, play through summer, and when summer event dies down, classic launches, probably a crossover event (level in one, rewards in the other), and then winter gms picks up, then classic calms down till spring, and it goes back and forth.
>>737327265I've only ever played nexon gacha, how time consuming is this?
>>737357752nonzero chance that the team is very small and is also a part of the same team that's working on both live versions of MS and the new Vindictus gameand yes the zipperheads in charge of nexon are notoriously retarded except when it comes to nickle and diming its players
>>737358382It'll get to a point where you'll stand in a stage and kill the same monster type for over 10 hours straight and you'll level once.The real draw was fucking around with the community but that isn't coming back despite the threads floating around.
>>737358453FOMO and nostalgia will guarantee that there'll be some semblance of a community on launch. How long that will last is the real question.
what keys do you guys put your abilities on? 20 years later and i still have no idea what the best layout is
>>737359013WASD or keys around it. I tend to have very similar keybinds in a lot of games.
>>737359013qwer and asdf, buff macros go on cvb if neededshift is a mobility skill or mount if you have one
>>737359069>>737359103do you guys still have default layout besides that? like regular attack on ctrl, pickup on z?
>>737359129i usually switch regular attack to A as a temporary thing until it's not used as often
>>737359129Ctrl is way too awkward for me to bend my pinky at to spam normal attacks, no. I use E for normal attacks and maybe replace it with a skill later on and move normal attack somewhere nearby. Pickup is something I might leave at Z or move to like V or B to use with my thumb instead, but I'll have a pet from level 1 to 200 so it's whatever.
>>737359160>>737359201and jump is still on alt?
>>737359314I use spacebar as jump. I rarely use ctrl or alt as they feel awkward for me to press with pinky or bend my thumb for.
>>737359314I keep alt as jump because it is comfy for me...
I use end and del as my main attacks, pgdn as buff (hopefully multibuff macros come as part of QoL around launch), pgup as my heals, pet for mp potting, home and ins are buffs. ctrl to attack and alt to jump, arrows to move. Not sure how tiny people's hands are where they can't hit ctrl from the arrow keys, it's like .0000000000005mm apart
just advanced to thief, do most people usually buy 1 set of stars or do they get more to refill less often?
>>737360210Multiple
>>737360210Most usually get 3 or 4 and slowly upgrade them oer time., you're fine to start with 1 or 2 though.
