What's the catch?"It's expensive" doesn't count
The catch is you can just emulate for free
>>737327974The catch is that you are being conned. It will just be FPGA shit, they have just very carefully worded it.
>>737328037I guess...
>>737327974$90 games $90, 30 year old arcade games that are available legally in every platform ever for like max $15, usually $8, done by HAMSTER or another good company, with built in features like online leaderboards and multiplayer>b-butI do NOT care
>JUST EMULATEI'm not trans
>>737328504But that's basically what you will do with this piece of shit.All eceleb faggot shills are selling this as if it will use motorola,zilog yamaha and SNK custom chips.
>>737328169how do you know? I don't know shit about these kinds of things but the website pretty plainly states that they're reinventing the old hardware
UMM YOU CAN JUST EMULATE THIS I'M ACTUALLY REALLY SMART GUYS DID YOU KNOW YOU CAN EMULATE YOU CAN'T THINK THIS IS COOL BECAUSE I DON'T AND I'LL BE EMULATING
>>737327974>What's the catch?no good games
>>737329041I think it only comes with ten games.
>>737327974There is no catch. For once, people are not being scammedThe original hardware is crazy expansive, you have a solid alternative for a reasonable price. We aren't talking about a Mario Galaxy compilation which cost less than the original console and game, we are talking a console that cost 3x time less than the original amount. And the games? 8x time cheaperMeanwhile Nintendo were selling a literaly emulator with a SNES skin with limited games for the same price as a CIB SNES lmao
>>737328971>how do you know?You do not hide good news.
>>737327974It's the MiSTer core FPGA HDL code as an ASIC.It is admittedly a good imitation but it's not 1-to-1 OG hardware level as the marketing speak is trying to sell
>>737329432The website very clearly states 'no FPGA approximation' so there's still a catch? Not being pedantic I just honestly don't know these things>Gameplay on the NEOGEO AES+ is not achieved through emulation - instead the console is powered by its legacy ASIC chips, re-engineered by modern standards to accurately replicate the original machine's hardware and software. The system natively plays game software from both new and old game cartridges for the most authentic retro gaming experience. Not emulation, not FPGA approximation, but true console reincarnation etched back into silicon.Is this a lie? Or sneaky wordplay?
>>737329645>Gameplay on the NEOGEO AES+ is not achieved through emulation - instead the console is powered by its legacy ASIC chips, re-engineered by modern standards to accurately replicate the original machine's hardware and software. The system natively plays game software from both new and old game cartridges for the most authentic retro gaming experience. Not emulation, not FPGA approximation, but true console reincarnation etched back into silicon.It's very carefully worded in a similar sense to the famous statement I did not have sexual relations with that womanSneaky bastards
>>737327974The real catch is that I don't think I like metal slug that much.
>>737328169FPGA emulaton could be a point in its favor because it would mean that it can run near identical to the original hardware and have slowdowns where you'd expect slowdowns, and that's crucial for some shmups.
>>737327974The catch is that no one knew what the fuck a NeoGeo was back then, and they still don't. It's probably a con anyway, I doubt it'll even make it to production.
>>737327974this white version is sexy as fuck...
>>737330030lmao they made chatgpt write this press release
>>737329891Sneaky wordplay. An ASIC is an FPGA that's locked into place, so to speak.
>>737330240I don't think any decent shmup on the neo geo uses slowdown. Hell, the neogeo doesn't even have any good shmups except like.... sonic wings
>>737330560You know what, you might be right. I always make the mistake of blending the Neo Geo and Sega Genesis libraries together.
>>737330774The genesis doesn't have a single good shmup...
>>737330153I love the way Metal Slug games look but man I dislike how they feel. 99% of all 2D games were 60fps and then there's this fucker running 30fps.
>>737331020SNK games are all 99% appearance but are all janky and broken and feel like shit to play. They don't test their games at all.
>>737331091The ADK stuff is good love Crossed Swords and Magician Lord.
>>737331186Magician Lord is pretty damn janky dude
>>737330991Name 5 good shmups, I dare you.
>shmup troons getting filtered by good games again
>>737331449KetsuiGunbird 2RayforceDaioujouDragon Blaze
>>737327974If you're like me, you'll buy it and then use it maybe a dozen times before it collects dust for months, to eventually be put back in its box where it will collect dust forever on a bookshelf. It's a novelty collectable, no matter how faithful its reproduction.
>All those fucks trying to sell this as the equivalent of a late pcb revision such as the A/V Famicom or PSoneTruly dishonest
>>737331610These are the games you think can represent the whole genre? Are you sure?
>>737332084Those are the ones I can shitclear without engaging with the mechanics beyond the surface level
>>737332084Yes
>>737331986isn't it though if it's 100% compatible and accurate with all the old carts and peripherals? serious question i don't know enough about the hw differences
>>737332169>here's my top level competitive clear of a genesis shmup doods
Forgot your Troonimai avatar
>>737328646>as if it will use motorola,zilog yamaha and SNK custom chipsThe problem with that is those chips can't be made nowadays because the production lines capable of doing those kinds of chips have been long sunsetted, so at best it's just emulating the system at hardware level like any other emulator system, in the end, as always, it's just a waste of money.
>1:1 replica just like the original brah>Original used a LS22 thats not in production at Seimitsu and also used panasonic microswitches ditto on them also not being produced anymoreLet me guess, they will stick in a chinese sanwa-jlf clone
>>737331745this
>>737329108it is compatible with all the old games, and from what i understand the new games and accessories are usable on the old hardware too.this is noteworthy as $90 while sounding expensive is actually cheaper than the Chinese bootleg "convert" cartridges by quite alot.
Brokie poorfags mad they still can't afford one after 36 years is the main catch.You'll hear their incessant jealousy and seething until November
Its going to be the equivalent of this
>>737333237to an extent maybe but from what i understand it is trying to go full ASIC and be a close to the original as possible but with hdmi output along with analog.will just have to wait and see, hopefully some early units get sent out and it will be found out to either be legit or a scam.
>>737327974It exists to proft off of Saudi Nostalgia
>>737330417Youre literally retarded. The old neo geo used an asic. Most old consoles used asics. You have no idea what youre talking about.>>737329891Hes lying>>737328169Whats up with these discors troons?
>>737334081Whatever you say furrytek
We'll have to wait for someone to buy one and open it up to see what it looks like inside.As far as I now, they've already said it won't be an FPGA or any other type of emulation.
>>737334892This is Analogue tier marketing fluff. There's no tangible difference between FPGA and ASIC for the end user except for power draw and firmware upgradability. Either can be equally accurate or inaccurate depending on the implementation.
>>737336137We know at least that the dudes who worked on the current MiSTer NG implementation are in charge of this, so at least there's some degree of guarantee that what we are getting should be as good as the actual thing.Not to mention they are aware of how people could be using a AES, specially with the Unibios, hence the dipswitches to manage both region and model.The fact they are thinking of these things makes me believe that they are TRYING to do something worthwhile and a legit replacement to the original hardware while still being compatible. Now,whether they will be able to pull it off or not, it's a whole other thing.
>muh bespoke ASICcosts like five bucks
>>737328037you can also get a job
>>737336465Everything around this is ringing alarm bells.The description being completely vague marketing gospelspeak.AI slopped promo images.The NeoCD gamepad in the render having more in common with the Mini compared to the original (and wrong colors compared to either).Total lack of technical information e.g. are the carts using mask ROMs, EPROMs, NAND Flash or what.The PR published nothing about Furrtek's involvement, which only came out because of him being coy about it on Twitter, and we still don't know the extent of it. It could be as little as Plaion simply licensing his modules, as seems to be the case with Jotego.
>>737327974I just wanted to order a white AES controller but their Shop checkout is ridiculously strict. They won't allow Discover cards for some reason, not even done through PayPal/GPay/Venmo (it's not a Shop thing, I've used Discover with other sellers that use Shop even recently and there was no fuss there).
>>737329076LOL
>>737328169It's not an FPGA. That said, the fact they aren't being open about accuracy testing while claiming no emulation is the same exact red flag as FPGA shit
Imagine Nintendo doing this with their retro consoles. Scalpers would have a field day.
>>737337959Everything is up for preorder on Amazon now, except for the $1000 giganigga bundle.
>>737338290Thanks for the heads up, finally got one ordered.
>>737337773>The NeoCD gamepad in the render having more in common with the Mini compared to the original (and wrong colors compared to either). If production hasn't been finalized on it yet, then people should take this time to bark at them to revert the button order to the original NGCD order.
>>737337773Malding about AI at this point is pretty cringe, but I agree there's too much vaguery in general. It all sounds way too good to be true, but we've got 7 months until this releases. Hopefully we'll know everything we need to know before we reach end of the road for refunds. Their previous releases were apparently really fantastic for what they were: software emulation boxes that play the original carts. The feel of plastics and build of the controllers, consoles, etc were apparently super top notch. Which is good, because that's basically the entire reason manbabby uncs with too much money are buying this over just playing on their mister.
>>737340337I'm getting a controller to use ON my MiSTer.
>>737327974Looks neat
>>737340337right now we have:>Pros:-Allegedly perfect, totally functional replicas of the original hardware.-Allegedly high quality materials and build.-The replica games, controllers, memcards, are compatible with the original hardware, so collectors dont need to buy the new console, just the games if they want.-the Price.... 'nuff said.-apparently, one of the games, Neoturf masters/BT Golf, will be updated to add the NeoCD Exclusive Scotland course. and Shock Troopers AES will be the first time the game will be officially released in that format.-while this system wont have the UniBios, it will include special dipswitches underneath to control Model and region setting, as well as to enter the soft dip.-the persons behind the ASIC implementation are the guys behind the official MiSTer one, people who know what they are doing.-SNK is actually endorsing this proper unlike what they did with Tommo and the NGX. >Cons.-use of AI for promotion material-so far they are being extremely vague about stuff.-adding to that, since theres no showing of the hardware or anything. we cant be certain if what they are promising is even true.one would say the Pros outweigh the cons, but so far, those are just promises, and probably it wont work as they claim. those last 2 cons REALLY outweigh the Pros.
