What's up with this game's recent steam reviews?
I LOVE losing runs with godlike decks because I keep drawing only defense cards when enemies are buffing themselves and only attack cards when they are attacking. I sure got OUTPLAYED
we should move to /vg/ already
>>737328549can you guess which character I mostly play based on avg elites damage taken?
>>737328549ROGUELIKE DECKBUILDER IS NO LAUGHING MATTER GWEILO, NOW REAP THE FURY OF THE CHINESE PEOPLE
>>737328632>godlike deck>no draw>>737328637you're free to make a thread there troon
>>737327907>Bosses and elites need scaling>Hallways need damage and block RIGHT NOW>Grab more damage cardsThanks, how do I check if I took enough? Should sum up damage over 1 full cycle of the deck or the number of turns before enemies outscales me or what?
>multiattacks>regeneratesWhats up nigga. I see you looking to fight an elite without AOE.
>>737328650ironCHAD>>737328702>how do i check if i took enough?you'll learn with experience. You want to be able to reliably draw some damage better than strike for the first couple of turns, unless your wincon isn't doing attack cards.
>All reviews now at mixedLmao just revert the door already
>>737328684>>no drawWith draw cards nigger
>>737328773post the run>>737328770play on a lower ascension
>tfw still haven't killed the heart in the first one or gotten past ascension 5cant tell how much of it is dogshit luck and how much of it is bad rng
can Steam please treat Chinese vote as 1/3rd of White person vote?
>>737328868100% the former unfortunately
>>737328830>Play on A1>Still lose to door 100% of the timecool
>i play>get spirit of ash and no ethereals>reap and no lethalities>sleight of flesh and no doom besides scourge>no friendship or demense>my card rewards are death march death march scourge death march>watch eceleb play>lethality reap lethality defy enfeebling touch spirit of ash lethality reaper form defy pagestorm pagestorm defy debilitate veilpiercer>everything dies in two turns
>>737328868There are people who stream 50 wins in a row on a20
>>737328920play on a0, then, doormaster isn't difficult before a9
>>737328986a1 is easier than a0
>>737328830I'm on my phone but I had>1 Offering+>1 Battle trance >2 Shrug it off>1 Pommel Strike+
>>737328769>ironCHADCorrect, I FUCKING HATE THAT RETARDED COLONY>Ironclad's best defense is offense, so you get no good early defensive cards>anyway fuck you, here's guy with damage cap that hits really hard every single turn
>>737329013play custom runs with bonus modifiers, then.>>7373290195 card deck? seems impossible for you to have drawn no attacks or defends each turn.>>737329024Agreed, he's a nigger for everyone but a bigger nigger for the chad
>>737328943Youtubers often upload their best/highroll runs for clickbait.If you see their raw streams, you'll see them eat shit too. Even Baloorlord has gotten owned.
Here's a mod that removes the multiplayer room caphttps://www.nexusmods.com/slaythespire2/mods/21?tab=description
>>737328943Stop being synergybrained, it's fine to pick reap to win the early fights and then build a deck that never uses it
>>737329095>5 card deck? seems impossible for you to have drawn no attacks or defends each turn.RNG loves to fuck me. Also a lot of times I draw all my shit and all of my energy cards come up last in the draw pile so I basically waste all my cards because I'm stuck at 3
>>737329095when the only way to play becomes customs with all the bonuses then theres a huge problem with the game
>>737328959like who
>>737328747>walk in with whirlwind>over in 2 turns max>walk in with anything else>fighting for your fucking life doing algebra to figure out correct order
>>737329186if i don't get ANY synergies i don't beat the bossesam i gonna beat test subject with defile, drain power, and melancholy?
>Damn this run is going pretty well>Ugh I have to path through an elite in act 2, it'll probably be fine>It's Millinigger>30 damage>30 damage>30 damage>DeadThis game really isn't fun right now.
>>737328868>can't tell how much of it is dogshit luck and how much of it is bad luckftfypeople are capable of consistently clearing the hardest difficulties, you really can't blame luck because you aren't winning, just gotta get better at the game bud
>>737329186gotta love getting end of days on neow and one turning everything up to the first elite
>>737328959Protip, they have other people playing the same seed ahead of them giving them hints on how to not die.
destroyed this nigga
>>737328412decimillipede turn 1 is 26 damagebowlbug duo does 24
>>737328959Who even streams A20? All sweats go for A20H and world records are all around 30 IIRC, except Watcher of course
>>737329203you sound unlucky, if you were lucky you'd win more, that's the only reason some people win more games than you. I'd love to see the full godlike deck phoneposter :)>>737329214That's not the only way, but it sounds like the only way you can win since you play very poorly.
>>737328747Don't forget the weak. That shit has fucked me over more than just long fights.
>>737329420And if you have 15 block against the bowlbugs? How much do they do turn 2???God what a stupid fucking post. Neck yourself.
>>737329260Transfigure melancholy.
>>737329260Pick cards that solve problems, your problems are going to elites so frontload and aoe, then you can think about something that wins your boss fight, and so on for three times. Solve your problems one at a time and it's going to be easier to build good decks
>>737329365how is it that every time someone beats doornigga its always 30+ cards in a deck. Thats so fucking inconsistent and you'll likely just die drawing all defends during enemy buffing and all attack during enemy attacks
>>737328747>blocks your path>shields itself per first hit of the turn
>>737329471haha yeah pick the transfigure i surely got offered then draw it together with melancholy and also take four turns to stabilize in every combat...
I'm curious, how long did it take everyone to beat A10 for the first time?
>>737328747I'm lucky because every time I meet it on a10 I have one of the following>dramatic entrance>Charon Ashes>Festive popper>Whirlwind and I kill it in two turns
>>737329513>someone tells you only thin decks are good>you treat it like gospel and cannot imagine other decks doing welltry thinking
>>737329489retard thats my point is im not being offered any solutions to the final bosses.
>>737329513I have yet to win a run with less than 30 cards
>>737329513it's called innate cards and draw cards
>>737329541>every combatNigger I only Transfigure on bosses
>>737329542It didn't take me long because I savescummed then bragged about it on /v/.
>>737329609You are bad then, most runs give you at least something
>>737328747>>737329539Just checking that you have good block and AoE. You should be thankful.
>>737329639So the stars need to align during a solar eclipse on the 7th day of the month? got it.
>>737329672>>737329672CAN YOU READ NIGGA
>>737329696were you offered no innate or draw cards in your run? zero?
How the fuck do I win with Regent? I've won all of a few times and lost a hundred.
>>737329714Yes, I can beat A10 so you must be really bad because I'm not that good
>>737329736yes, on multiple occasions
>>737329539>Bludgeon to Gardener on a2your move
>>737329840post a run where zero draw/innate were offered.
>>737329634This, do small decks even work unless it's empty of strikes and defends?
>chinese say the standard difficulty is A10I cant say they are wrong. Im only starting to need to try to use my brain at a9.
i genuinely don't understand how to play ironclad at a9he just takes too much damage since he has piss all for defensive cards, it's either get colossus and draw it or just take 10+ chip literally every single fightand without limit break he can't scale fast enough to matter
based on the reviews it's more like slay the orient 2 at this rate
>>737328893They are the main market for the game is my understanding.
>>737329912until you run into something spamming status at you
>>737329960Chinks have no tolerance for stupid shit while westerners will cope that they're doing something wrong when in reality the game is an RNG shitfest.
>>737330002this is true
>>737330019t. Gong Daoling from Toronto
>>737330019Hahahaha holy fuck.>could it be me that's bad? No. The players with high win rate are too forgiving for shit gameplay
Do I really have to memorize all enemy damage and patterns? I feel like I'm peaking.
>get very slow infinite combo that one shots doorman>it only deals 6 damage every five clicksthank god for "kill all", ain't no way I'm spending half an hour here
>>737330167Nah just savescum
>>737329470>15>>737329539big hits work better here than AoE
>>737329929Exhaust has a lot of good defensive options
>>737330243>iron clad uses thunderclap for 4 aoe at round start
>>737330162Players with high winrate are cheating one way or another.
Snecko Ironclad is unstoppableThe problem is surviving Act 1 in order to roll for it
>>737330002I usually win with ~20 cards. If your deck is small enough, you generally just kill them before you start drawing the status cards anyways. Sand pit and mecha knight are like the only two enemies in the entire game that it's a problem with.
>>737330307>enemies all have shield now because ironclad was a quickshot which strikes can't break
>>737330331At least they are cheating and winning unlike the cheating and still losing chinks
>>737330254so it's just scum for an exhaust run? damnthey really did my boy dirty
>>737329443This guy seems way too strong compared to dorito and beeman who usually do no damage and just keel over and die
>>737329254>Whirlwind + Bloodletting + Bag of Marbles and/or some form of relic strength>kill the niggers turn 1Love when that happens
>>737330369Yes. That was what I was lamenting lol. This happened to me in multi and I said "who fuckin did that" in the vc
>>737330379>defending cheatersdamn /v/ really is contrarian
>>737329929From my experience In act 1 avoid any normal fights, path from weak fights straight to Elites and chart path to avoid as many normal fights as possible. Then do same in act 2 and act 3
You really have to get a run like this sometimes to remember how stupidly busted Silent was on release (and still is with the proper critical mass of cards). The second I saw Ricochet + Punch Dagger on my greed store I literally only picked cards that said "draw" and "discard" and everything fucking exploded without having a chance. Took 1 damage and 0 damage on the act 3 bosses, and doorman is tailored to stop this type of deck.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlmDB5QnckY&t=1414s>dev interview>they're aware of the reviewbombing>said they wont be swayedI seriously doubt itChink power is too strong
Finally, some good fucking damage.
>>737330502Damn. You flipped over like a fat bitch at a buffet. Post nose you disingenuous fuck
>>737330559what are they even meltying over, anyways?
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>>737330559They're lucky StS is too popular a brand to be affected by bad reviews. The chinese absolutely can tank the entire overall score to mostly negative if they get riled up enough.
>>737330590As soon as the beta branch changes (Doorman is cancerous to play against, but not impossible) went to the main version, chinks got uppity
>>737330590chinks riot when anything is made at all more difficult.
>>737330526We need time slug back to rape Silent
Doormaker needs more reworking. His current version has more interesting mechanics, but they don't mesh well together, and the starting door phase seems out of place now.>>737329918They are wrong. A10 is not meant to be fair, it is supposed to be a challenge for most players and you should be expected to lose more often than not.
>>737328549Wait, is it really the revamped Door boss that caused the review bomb?He actually does stuff now instead of just having buttloads of hp and occassionally hitting for 45-50dmg. How is that a bad thing?
>>737330590They made Acrobatics uncommon and nerfed Silent infinites.
>>737330731it's not, betachads learned to deal with it weeks ago but chinks and westerners that somehow end up similarly feminine are getting gaped him.
>>737330660>>737330676>>737330740why is this the first time i've heard of them having a melty over difficulty tweaks? usually it's because the dev "disrespected" china in some way.does StS just have a weirdly high concentration of chink players or something? is that why they think they have any power here?
>>737330703Split him into two niggas>doorman staring you from the goatse hole>different doors for different phases>only one door active per turn>manageable HP (maybe a bit less than the Queen's minion) so if your deck is solid you can rush it down in 2 turns max>once you kill a door the others get buffed>you can choose which phase to kill first and which ones to leave last
>>737329218pretty sure xecnar was the best in the first game
I wish western society had as much balls as chinese society to fight and shit all over the place for thingssee how aggressively the CCP has to rule over them to tame a society like that
>>737330807My man there are 2 billion chink bugsAnd they're not allowed to shitpost on the internetExcept on Steam for some fucking reason. So they all go there and let their steam out (heh) whenever there is a minor inconvenience
>>737330825>ruin the thematic presence of the boss because chinese people got madYeah nah
>>737330807>why is this the first time i've heardidk, they did it even harder with the first big beta patch, not sure how you missed it.
>>7373295421 attempt because I'm not a shitter
>>737330740> and nerfed Silent infinites.They didn’t touch anything besides raising acrobatics rarity. silent is being treated by kiddy gloves
>>737330868ccp rules over them like that because they have no balls to resist anything. leaving a negative review on a video game isn't resistance.
Choose a card!
>>737330986defect when
>>737330986I’d like to dominate Silent
My journey for the most locked in gameplay in my sts career continues. As a reminder, all runs are A10. Biggest takeways of this particular streak so far:>Silent is in a whole different level to Ironclad.>Out of the Silent runs, one of them was a nailbiter and the other 4 were me assraping the game.>On the flipside, only one of my ironclad runs was an overhwelming win and the rest were very close.>The game on its current state is way easier than A20H. My A20H winrate was a little bit below 50%. Here, I've won 9/10 runs so far. The lack of an act 4 is too noticeable.My ironclad loss was probably skill issue as I don't consider myself a super strong player (that's why I'm surprised I'm 9-1 this far, thus my opinon on the state of the game being easy for experienced players, I can tell why some highest level players are a bit bored right now)
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775242562269430/76561197997192985come join, there is no save scumming or review bombing in multiplayer
>>737331025when he gets a thread joke + a waifu model OR a sick ass horror mecha model
>>737331075I'm shit at the game so I'm going to say you save scummed to cope.
>>737331157I think half of my runs were kind of ass to be honest, the heart would've gang raped me to a sub 50% winrate with those.
bro is so obsessed with his stats he made a new account to brag about them after just 10 runs on 4chan of all places
>>737331075Silent needs so many nerfs. Ironclad wasn’t that strong even during infinites period and half of good cards got straight nerfs with zero compensations. Silent got ONE card nerfed and Chinkoids rioted enough that it got brought back
>>737331264>so mad you're trying to talk like a zoom zoomcalm.
50/50 ascensions unlocked, time to go back to A8 and actually enjoy myself.
>>737331309Prepared should be uncommon too just for the fuck of it
>>737330502Defending isn’t the word here.
I hope they nerf the lower ascensions soon. The game is way, way too hard to be fun currently. Make the A10 the poopsock difficulty but there's no reason for everything else to be this hard.
>>737331075Give me early game tips for Ironclad, Ironchad.70% of my runs is me dying before the Act 1 chest
my wr is going down after the last patch...
>>737330559The fact that they can openly say it shows how little they care. But mongrels here will still claim any balancing in EA has to do with the ChinksEveryone, EVERYONE knows by now who the reviews are coming from. One of the only good things Steam added in recent years.
>>737331321>bro is zoomerspeakwe get it man you're insecure
>>737331546humble brag posts like this really annoy me. i get its 4chan but fuck off.
>>737329539*throatfucks these eels while they make that swallowing sound*ez relic
>we>he needs to imagine a group agreeing with him to make an anonymous post
>>737329542My first win on A10 was on release qith Silent. Sub 100 hours.Since then I've pouref 200 hours on the gamr and I've beaten it twice with Clad. Twice with Silent, and Once with Necro
>look at Sts.fun Ironclad cards winrate>all the best cards are skills and powers>only two attacks above 50% winrate>all bottom cards are attacksHow do we solve the problem of Attack based character having shit attacks?
>>737331730>regent has the worst win rate by farholy shit what the fuck
I quit until I get a good starting relic and favorable path with mix of campfires and elites
>>737331794People don’t know how to play him
>>737328632>Save & Exit>Continue
>>737331820Well? How do you play him?
@SimulationsAnonCould I get the code the you made for the game engine? I want to make a Regent AI and it would help.>>737331794>>737331820many such cases>>737331864no one knows
120 hours in and still haven't got anyone above ascension 2.
>>737330418>Beeman: have burst damage, don't spam low damage attackd>Aggressive Pizza: have block, maybe some way to scale your attack>Deci: have burst Aoe, block, and enough deck manipulation to cycle them :)
>>737331794he has the worst card rewards because nothing works by itself
>>737331925unsubscribe
>expect a fight>but not really
>>737331309I think acrobatics being at uncommon kind of screwed with silent's consistency a bit. Out of 5 runs I only really got offered 1~0 in most runs (except the last one which had 3 for some reason) so she isn't as outrageous as she was on day 1 but she's still really strong.And one of the biggest reasons is that I believe Ironclad's commons are kind of... bad (leaving aside his strongest common assets like Pommel Strike, current Tremble, Bloodletting, and whatnot), he has fucking incredible gamebreaking uncommons and phenomenal rares.On the flipside, almost every silent common are from pickable to enough to solo the act 1 boss. Her uncommons range from mid to gamebreaking, and her rares are nice to have but you can live without them (obviously you can get offered some build warping effects early you're going to try tailoring your picks towards that), but you can make it really far with just her good commons and uncommons with strong numbers. Really, the fact that Survivor discards slots in early sly cards and makes every build go so smoothly it's great. She's a really fun character to play in all stages of the game.I don't really know how we're supposed to nerf this character. If anything I'd like her less pickable tools (shivs and poison) have easier payoffs. The biggest issue I see with current silent is that all decks are flavors of SlySlop with some knives or some poison bottles and your one snake. We'll see.Ironclad is far from BAD, but out of these two, he's less consistent in my opinion. Which makes him interesting in a way, despite his "simplistic design".>>737331495I'll reply you in another post, I ran out of space.
>>737331925I felt like a shitter for getting my first A10 win around 120 hours in.
>>737332086I'm at like 75 and still have none, so I'll be there soon. Everyone's A10 and I'm 0/7
>>737332063LMAO 3 DEF!
>>737330731To be fair, the patch also included a bunch of balance changes that a lot of shitters hated.>NOOO MY EASY INFINITES ON CLAD>NOOO SKULKING IS NO LONGER A PUSHOVER>NOOO DIRGE EXHAUSTS>NOOO MY INSTAPICK SLY CARDS GOT NERFEDThe only changes I truly weep for are Defy losing its weak 2 upgrade, Doorman's third mechanic (Lose energy), and the Inflation ascencion, which is terribly restrictive. I also hate Scarcity because Rares make the game fun, but that's just me.
Jorbs doesn't have trouble with the door. If people played as much as him and made spreadsheets tracking winrates of card picks, relic picks, and event picks, you would win like him too.
>>737331090A loli piloting a junkyard mecha sounds fucking KINO
>>737328549Jeets mass downvote
>>737331862>Save & Exit>Continueyou did NOT beat the run
>>737332174I agree on Scarcity, and part of the problem is that plenty of rares approach unpickable if you don't already have a setup for them. Which compounds the issue.
>>737329513get off the mobalytic tier lists lil bro
>>737332086i don't know i just can't do it. also fwiw you're only good at this game if you can get to a10 in under 3 losses and maintain a 75% winrate currently.
>play the game>beat it in about 2 hours (Second run)>huh>play it again, win in about an hour with a second character>look it up>only a couple of characters>you're supposed to "replay" over and over with minor stacking difficulties?>this is a like 6 hour game for $30 just with looping/repeating "content" from "difficulty"I mean I got to ascension 7 and got bored, I don't think I'll pick it up again. 21.2 hours. Not really worth the money I spent.Is this just an early version and will there be a longer adventure or more enemies to fight? It felt very simple. Like runs had some variation but I kept seeing the same enemies, the same events, the same bosses overall. Just...not that fun? Like, I beat it. The content now available is "Exact same, but slightly harder".
Well that was unlucky. Lets give it another go ladssteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775242563399917/76561198042507437
>>737330986>Anime SilentSoul.>Anime ReagentSoulless. Reagent is already perfect as he is.
steam://joinlobby/2868840/109775242563399778/76561197997192985Do you hate eels or centipedes more?
>>737332230This could fit.
>>737328549this is the closest I ever been to beating this stupid heart.
>>737331495>>737332078I wish I could give you a good advice because I think I'm kind of shit at ironclad and the one thing all my good runs have in common is that i I find one BIG damage card somewhat early (Bludgeon, Primal Force, Uppercut, Perfected Strike, Cinder if you're desperate). As soon as you have ONE big card you can run head on into elites and fucking blast them to snowball. My runs work best when I turn my brain off, just click big numbers, vuln synergy and deal big damage before you get hit too much, to offset the enemy damage with Burning Blood.The biggest thing to keep in mind when playing Ironclad on act 1 is understanding how the character plays against every elite.Overgrowth. The easier ironclad act 1.>Byrdonis: Just fucking punch him>Statue: Just fucking punch him.>Germ faggot: Just fucking punch him but also have at least one good AoE attack (honestly Breakthrough+, which is a common, gets the job done).Underdocks. The harder ironclad act 1.>Terror eel: Just fucking punch him>Gardners: Same advice as Germ Faggot. Big attacks are also effective because if you can one shot the head that's inflicting more damage you're also doing great.>Skulking colony: Literally the Ironclad's archnemesis and your run ender. This elite will cap your damage output (the solution to 5/6 elites) and will hit hard across many turns. If you're in the underdocks, I'd recommend grabbing ONE big block card (just one is fine for the character) or at least having two good potions for this fight. Fucking hit him while taking as little damage as possible.I really encourage you (and everyone) to try and do 3 elites on act 1. Elites are predictable, you know which enemies you're going to get and are the easiest fights to prepare for becasue they have very explicit win conditions and power you up with relics and more gold. Every single one of my 4 successful ironclad runs raped all 3 elites on act 1. And 3 of them were on the underdocks.
>>737332432They're going to add like two more characters + alternate versions of Act 2 and 3 + a real final boss probably, but yeah it's the first game again with some new stuff
>>737330596relobbysteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775242563596857/76561198174500842
>>737332467centipedes by far because it's act 2, act 1 is no problem
>>737332556This poster is a knower. you should be doing minimum 2 elites act 1, every run on every character.
>>737332575I didn't play the first since I was told it was basically a demo for this one (similar characters, cards, etc)But good to know, I'll revisit it then. Thanks.
>>737332625I think the change from StS1 from "you can't do the same elite twice in a row" to "you'll rotate across all three elites" is one of hte biggest QoL improvements in design. It makes act planning so, SO much better. Doing two elites and knowing exactly what you need to prepare for for the next one is a game changer.Such a simple change, such a deep implication in your pathing and branching.
>>737332281My stats claim otherwise.
>>737328549the negative reviews are deserved but not because of boss encounters
I just don't get this game. I'm getting very close to my STS1 playtime and I did everything the game had to offer, every achievement and A20 + Heart (multiple times with every character!) and I can't even get past ascensions 3-4 here.
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>>737331794Still clunky as fuck.Regent suffers from an issue you see in card games where every other card in your deck requires another card to be played.Devastate for example, helps you nuke enemies. You need 4 stars for it. If you drew 5 devastates and no star gen, you're bricked. Venerate is dogshit, and it falls off even harder than Bash in terms of starters. It doesn't enable you to play cards with stars, you just use it to play Meteor Strike and pray for something like Hidden cache.Forge is slow and clunky. You can't upgrade the sword, so you'll be building a big chunky attack that you may never get to play. They did fix the main issue of Forge, which was most of the forge cards forged and they did nothing else. Card creation works with minions, but not with colorless cards because you have no control over what you get, you can't reduce their cost, and Regent doesn't have the energy manipulation of Ironclad/Necro/Defect to truly make something like that fun.I think they should take his debris mechanic from collision course/Crash Landing and so something with it. He's much better than he used to be on release, but he's still nowhere near finished.
>>737332892You have been larping for weeks. Genuinely, what is wrong with you?
>>737332580againsteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775242564006249/76561198174500842
>>737332962i dont think he's larping he's streamed and posted videos and stuff. he's actually this stuck.
>>737333020must've followed guides to do well in sts1, or he's just lying.
>>737333268>>737333020I watched like 500 hours of STS1 content before I even touched the game and then probably another 1000 over the years. But you'd think some of that would translate to STS2. I've at no point read a written guide though.
Alright, I'm done with dinner. You may host now.
>>737333340Why don't you watch some sts2 content then?The game knowledge doesn't transfer 1:1 since enemy behavior, layouts, elites, and the overall metagame has changed. If you're trying to do exactly the same things you're doing in StS1 you're getting clapped.
>>737333407>Why don't you watch some sts2 content then?I watched 2 videos a day on my commutes.
>play ironchud>don't get any decent early cards>die to act 1 boss because my deck has no scaling and no defense>repeat several times with. othing changingthis guy has to be the absolute worst character in the game, right? he's literally fucking unplayable unless you luck into specific uncommons or rares right off the bat.
>>737333421Whomst
>>737332086>>737331925Spend 1 hour watching someone who knows what they're doing beat a couple of runs.
>>737330369>>737330307Gardeners really aren't balanced for multiplayer at all. I'm not sure how I'd fix it; maybe have a special multiplayer version of the fight that has slightly different mechanics.
>pass on a 3 cost card because it's early act 1>slither event next floorYep, that's an abandon.
>>737333340>study a game for 500 hours before you play itso you've simply never had a thought of your own and having to play sts2 with your own reasoning is revealing you're retarded, gotcha. Very grim.
>correctly predict which elites I'll be fighting>lose to the fishGay.
>>737330559MegaCrit is a fairly small group, no? It's not like some megacorporation that's basically enslaved to the whims of its shareholders. They can do whatever the fuck they want as long as they're making enough money to stay afloat.
>>737333432you can beat act 1 with common shitcards, dodge elites if that's all you getthey'll stay in your deck as a curse, but that's the normal way of playing
>>737333432retard
>>737333432you either get the hellraiser infinite loop, or he's utter dogshit
>>737333456Mostly Baalor nowadays.
>start run>first fight is slugs>draw 4 strikes and bash>kill the first slug after significant chip>second slug is active, draw 5 strikes, can't kill it and can't block the incoming damage>ate literally 30 damage on floor 2fuck this game
>>737333746What happens when you get Doormaker as one of your two bosses?
>>737333432No. You're correct. He fucking sucks.
okay I FINALLY did an A20 heart run in StS 1it was ironclad where the very first relic I got was dead branch and my second relic was mummified hand, but i never did get corruptioncan i start StS2 now
>>737333714no shit retard, i've beaten a10 on defect and necrobinder i know how to play the fucking gamethat doesn't make ironchud's godawful card pool any better, there's literally nothing you can do when you limp into the act 1 boss with a deck full of trash and no actual solution to the fight because you weren't offered anything that did anything at all, and this just happens consistently every game
>>737333767i fucking hate the slugs but if you learn their pattern you can try and kill one when the other one is going to debuff so you have 2 turns to clear, it's the less painful way to eat damage when you get shafted by draw order
>>737328549Actual answer?China steam doesnt let its players give feedback forms.So they spam reviews as feedbackIts retarded but they should have had an in game feedback form.And Slay the Spire will ALWAYS bend the knee to the chinese since they are unironically what made it popular
>>737333802Come in with 30+ cards
>>737333802>kill all from consoleI beat the game.
>>737333802>not using the 'remove doormaker' modyour own fault for taking the 1/3 instaloss
>>737333969game was popular before
>>737330731I don't think there's anything wrong with a boss that has no gimmicks and is just a massive wall of HP and constant damage, though. That's what Donu and Deca was.Original Doormaker was fine IMO.
>>737334152>massive wall of HP and constant damageThat's Test Subject, the actual deadliest Act 3 boss on A10. Only difference is there's two partitions in the wall stopping you from breaking it in one turn.
>>737334152I mean the gimmick was that Donu buffed and Deca filled your deck with faggy dazes so if you rushed Donu you only needed a stream of block every other turn for Deca.I still like StS1 act 3 bosses over what we have currently on StS2. Act 3 is my least favorite part of the game. Acts 1 and 2 (1 especially) are more fun.
>>737334152I don't understand it either. I thought saving certain exhaust cards for the maker and not the door was plenty.
i'm with the chinks on this onei hate the doornigger
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>>737333969I kind of expect any reviews using the in game feedback system, especially when not in the language of the primary developers, to be little more than screaming into the void. The complaints may be dumb, but they are probably correct that the review system is the only thing that will be noticed by the developers. Regardless of the reason for the complaints, in the end the game was sold and at least that audience isn't happy with the changes in the release, so they use the one channel the devs will care about.
>>737332647Sts2 is still undercooked, sts1 is perfect other than the watcher. It's also way harder but if you don't find value in replaying the same game with different decks you still won't like it
Why is the Great Leap Forward censored? Surely they haven't unpersoned their Eternal Chairman?
>>737334152Donu and deca were pushovers other than with really slow decks
>>73733466450+ million people died
Very intense runAshen Strike seems like a must for A10 IroncladBlasted that doornigga ass with a single copy
>>737334564yeah I kinda got bored and clocked out after 20 hours and beating ascension 7. Maybe I'll try more in the future, I don't know.
>>737332281Draw cards are a scam>Draw 4 >Get nothing>Die>Don't draw 4>Deck shuffle is perfect for the rest of the fight>Win
I didn't choose hell, it chose me.
>>737333610Multiplayer enemies that have scaling plating or artifact just shouldn't get the same health multiplier as normal enemiesMaybe do the same with Waterfall Giant and Knowledge Demon's self heals
>>737333884Yes. You're officially part of the big boys club.
>>737334753Decisive victory
>>737334897Honestly I only really like the 2 new characters, ironclad got murdered, silent is various degrees of slyslop and defect went from a 200 iq character to spamming random shit because you simply generate too much value to lose
I love bridges
>>737333884>Ironclad dead branch freebieYou didn't beat the game
>>737335141fair enough
GG lads.>Found no Doom cards>Found no soul set up>Found no otsy stuff>All it gave me was two rolling bouldersThanks for carrying
>>737332440GG, my Defect build was pure ass but could basically live forever because of Coolant + Diadem
>>737328549Westoids actually Still believing shit like social credit score, uyghur genocide or secret banned words sending you to prison in china being real will never not be the ultimate proof of how ridiculously and systemically brainwashed westerners areIt's also funny seeing westoid STS fans seethe about chinese users making noise and complaining about unbalanced shit, like my man, 2/3 of all copies of STS1 were bought by chinese players, if you are trying to paint someone as retards too dumb for this game then maybe you should start with the westurds who barely bought it to begin with
>>737334152>I don't think there's anything wrong with a boss that has no gimmicks and is just a massive wall of HP and constant damage, thoughyes but that is already effectively every boss in this game and theres a problem when thats every bossknowledge demon, sandworm, and queen kinda try but not really. you just build the same deck to beat everyone until doormaker came along and killed a bunch of 20 card hyperscaling decks.
where frens to ascend the spire together
ggthe wonders a single barricade and a vambrace can bringalso thanks beacon of hope guy for eating by demonic shields
ggs I felt weak as fuck that run
Most supportive build I've gotten so far, Rally, Beacon of Hope, Shared Fate and Enfeebling Touch. I don't think I did 1/10th of the damage lmao. GG.
>finally cleared a9 with ironclad>all it took was neow transforming a strike into feed and then finding breakthrough, rupture, inferno, and sword boomerang before the first elitethis run was fun. this character is not.megacrit pls fix.
baffled people think this is easier than spire 1
>>737335549I can see my card behind Osty, nice
>>737334664>>737334753>chinks decide that sparrows are evil>go on a campaign to exterminate them all, like Australia's Great Emu War except this was actually successful>turns out sparrows actually prey on locusts>huge swarms of locusts now swarm the country devouring every farm in their path>half the country starves to deathSasuga China
>>737328549>chinks rightfully call out developers on their shit changes>westoids just bootlick and continue slurping slopYou get what you deserve.
>>737329513You only get like ~three removes in this game with the cost change on ascension now. If you have a thin deck, a much larger proportion of your deck is trash.
>>737335570honestly surprised we wonthough i had block, all of my damage options were slow as hell to scale>>737335709did startle me seeing a sudden ~600 dmg unleash at the very end lol
>>737335641I feel like in Spire 1 you could snowball much easilyWhy dont they bring back the "multiple relic rewards but you pick one" thing? That would help us make our builds more consistent instead of rolling the gacha every time
>>737335774what a retarded change, strikes and defends arent fun cards to draw into
>have good run>run into behive man
>>737336187holy shit we fucking get it you don't have any fun if you're not busted and stomping everything in the game go play a0 custom runs already little bitch boy
>>737329513>inconsistentyou're supposed to pick the cards that help you
>>737329343The point is that RNG doesnt prevent you from losing. The game is designed and coded in a way where you can always win.
>>737336343>"no the game has to be so hard that noone can beat it so I look cool!"die in a ditch
MY GRORIOUS 18 CARD DECK MEGACRIT RHY U DO DIS
kek these chinese are something else
>>737334753>50+ million people diedjust like how 2 million uyghurs were genocided and enslaved recently in chinawith literally not a single recorded proof of it despite smartphones being everywhereclaims presented to you and supported only by the western states and noone elserejected by the entire rest of the world including all muslim statesclaims presented to you by the same western states who are backing a genocide, ethnic cleansing and systemic oppression in the middle east against muslims they claim to care So much about in chinawith literal endless recorded proof of these eventsdenied by all these western states that genocide /ethnic cleansing /apartheid is taking place in their proxy state backed by themand you retards eat all this slop up
the dynamic of building 30 card decks then bottom decking your powers is so shit
>>737336612
>>737336612Sorry but the Silent infinites will remain nerfed
>>737336612>defending communistspls stop
Card scholars: does this work with Anger?
>>737336758Agreed. More need innate or retain upgrades or something. Maybe an event to enchant a power with auto-play like that one skill reward.
>>737336938Every new Anger copy keeps enchantments and counts as not played.
>>737336938all the cards that duplicate themselves do the duplication before the enchantments remove themselves. all the card text always happens first.
>>737337037>>737337039Thanks, lads
>>737336938Card effects occur top to bottom, and Enchants always apply their effect at the bottom.
>>737336946autoplaying some powers is absolutely busted. some of them are straight 2x damage output like reaper form or some crazy shit like demense that gives you both energy and card draw every turn. it'd have to be some vakuu type shit that makes you give up something else big.
>>737330807They did the same thing in STS1 when the dev tried to nerf intangible, you just didn't hear about it.The devs gave in that time, so their reward is more review bombs.
>>737337154I'd be fine with it being an ancient reward. Some of those I would never choose anyway.
>fighting enemy>write down turns>get down to last enemy>restart fight to redo it optimally>do this several times until I min/max my fightAnyone else?
>>737336865you mean>exposing that you are a brainwashed faggot eating up and circlejerking with the most easy to debunk lies
>>737337261chinabro...
>>737337261DOORMAKER, CHINKRAPER, GIVE THIS MAN (Exhaust.)
>want to learn necrobinder better>find hang>win>learn nothing
>>737332625Agreed, ever since I started doing that I've gotten much better results at clearing act 1some of the later hallway fights is honestly brutal for clad, he'd rather just step into an elite and damage race them to death
Petrified Toad stops working if i pick Sozu, right?
Excellent start.
>>737337154>>737337245this exists
>>737337381can i introduce you to:>danse macabre>borrowed time>bury>lethality>neurosurgeand the all important ever beloved>eradicate
>>737337261Does this really work
>>737337381>take big cost cards if you have borrowed time>take retain cards>wineradicate/volley + borrowed time is basically a free win
>>737337524is being trans an important part of playing the character?
>>737337442>shrink beetle first combat>draw 4 blocks and 1 curse turn 1>close the gamesometimes the seed just tells you it won’t be your day
>>737337563Yeah. Your draw order is always the same and generated cards are always the same
>>737337154>both Necrobinder>meanwhile Ironclad has...Demon Form (more like KEK form) and Juggernaut
>>737337442>he picked the boots
>>737336938YesMomentum (from the relic) is the one that gets cucked on Anger
>>737337442>he picked Ironcuckohnonono
>>737337745>HE PICKED THE BOOTS
>>737337605you'll still average 3 turns and 10 damage regardless if you drew 3 strikes
>>737337381I have never won with hang and I so infrequently get more than one. That being said, Necrobinder is easy to learn. Just don't fall into the osty trap because his cards are deceptive and only like two are good.
>>737337745>>737337851I am having more success than usual with these boots and I've only used one charge. I did not want Phial or Poultice. Though I would usually chose the Phial.
>>737337720>all weak Silent/Defect rares got reworked, best rares are still in the game>best Ironclads rares removed from 2>worst rares are still there, fully unchangedt-thanks
>never want to do act 2 elites in fear of the pedeHow am I ever going to get this sword to its full potential?
>>737332938You can energy manipulate just fine with regent. You need orbit though.
>>737335741See, it would make sense to censor specific things like the sparrows, or the backyard forges, or the time they believed Lysenko. They could just handwave and vaguely say the Great Leap Forward was a vast modernization program while omitting pesky details, like saying the American Civil War was about states' rights without saying which right it was about.
>>737338038You just have to build a deck that can easily kill both millipede AND Dr. Bees, it's that easy
>>737337442This is why I play on ascension 4. Bane is just not fun or interactive in any way.
>>7373380385 elites for 3 strength just feels like such a shit addition, like the relics you get from those 5 are more than enough power, so why couldn’t that damn sword be stronger?? i guarantee that the chiniggers wouldn’t be crying over doormaker as much if the sword gave you 4 STRENGTH instead
>>737337524been underestimating danse macabre judging by how often i see it mentioned
>>737337381>necrobinder 101 (rip Defy+)>pick Dirge>pick one strong attack (Death March, Soul Storm if you go full Soul/Summon, Banshee's if you run ethereal cards or simply play Unleash)>stall>Osty gets bigger>???>win>optional cards to consider: Reaper Form (if you have the mana to play the card and block on the same turn), Necro Mastery if you can get Osty really big (e.g. Chemical X + Dirge+ + Borrowed Time), Devour Life (if you can generate a lot of Souls). Also, Enfeebling touch is an amazing defensive card.
act 2 elites make me want to die
>>737338314I'm really surprised the decimilipede hasn't been nerfed even a touch yetCompare him to the fucking triangle, it's night and day
>>737338289>death march>strong attack
>>737338147
why'd they remove my nigga du-vu doll
Pray for me, I just want this shit to end.
>>737338403I've killed centipede on turn 1 many times. Never the triangle, not even close.
>>737338562Same, that blocking fuck is annoying as shit. Centipede gets fucked up by my Regent if I have my cards in order. Big Damage + Multitarget is the counter to this fool.
>>737338536What's there not to get?
>>737338536necro has lotsa draw, this card gives you extra mana to use those cards that you drew, so you can get more draw and use more invoke cards, potentially to infinity
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>>737338403didn't its health get nerfed
>lagavulin boss>do 6 combats, two elites, shop with greed>remove and buy five fucking cards at the shop>no damage offered all act>die to lagavulin because my defends start doing 0i swear my seeds are just impossibleliterally nothing to pick. i bought or picked all the good blocks, got defy, debilitate, ultimate defend, negative pulse, bone shards, even speculated on a danse macabe, removed strike, and even though i stomped the elites, there is simply just 0 boss damage offered the whole act. nothing. a drain power, two reaves. i took the debilitate. two pokes and fucking rattle?
>>737338536This card is to because Necrobinder cards are expensive. There's even that 4 or 5 cost card that you can't use without this one.
>>737338540Not looking great, boys.
>>737338712Isn't doom better vs her?
>>737337261I have done this because I suddenly go "Hmm, I could've done this better".I still consume potions on the turn I used them originally, and I try to look at my draw pile and enemy patterns.Still have to implement that mindset on my regular game though. Sometimes I just want to click cards amd watch big numbers pop up.
>>737338536use these in a soul deck, you’ll find out you have like 12 mana a turn
>>737338207The new borrowed time essentially makes it a consistent block source.
>>737338773I'm not having fun anymore. Good night.
>>737338646>>737338772>>737338686why wouldn't I just use borrowed time or the exhaust one?setting up a next turn seems incredibly finicky, especially since you are paying 1 energy on that turn
>>737338919>kicked out by the great china filter, the chinkraper, the doormaker
>>737338941because borrowed time still increases other mana costs, this gives you essentially 2 block as well + more energy for eradicate is never a bad thing
>>737338690Fear not the doorman, join multiplayer
>play silent>get some early sly cards>never once draw them and survivor on the same turn>never get offered another card that discards>pivot to shivs>never get any way to get more damage off the shivs>die to beesI fucking hate silent
>>737337745>>737337851Boots not looking too stupid now, HUH?
>>737339079That's why you have to pick cards from all over. You can mix shivs + poison + sly + flat damage. Locking in is a death sentence as silent.
>>737338808no escape makes her free but i just got one scourge and negative pulse offered which isn't enough for her health pooli genuinely have no clue what you pick here to wini guess go more combats and pray the extra card reward solves? surely greed was the right choice with how stacked the shop was
>>737338941borrowed time is uncommoninvoke isnt
>>737328549Based OP
>>737339032retard you use the borrowed time after you play your other cards so you don't make them cost more. with three energy you play 5 1-cost cards which is the same as invoke except its even better with high cost cards and is insane on x-cost cards
>>737338453It's not the strongest but it can work well with a souls deck. I've won A9 and A10 runs with it. It isn't meant to be your endgame main source of damage (unless you have some powerful modifiers) but early game (or even mid game) it can deal decent damage if you have souls and Osty isn't big enough yet
Even a second Bee Man can't stop the boots.
>Captain's Wheel: On the start of the 3rd turn gain 18 block>Everything in act 1: On the 3rd turn buff and gain block instead of attackingThanks for nothing you stupid cunt wheel
>>737338149>after beating the 5th elite, the sword glows. Choose one>RUBY, your first attack each turn deals 50% more damage>EMEREALD, gain 3 stength, 3 dex>SAPPHIRE, heal 50% of your hp on your next rest >AMETHYST, bosses drop two potions and one relic
>>737339703Taking this.
>>737329539*beeps binarily in Sunder+*
boots are literally bis, I have won every run with them
>>737339837What the fuck do they do??
>>737328747>tooltip says "revives in 2 turns">it actually revives at the end of the next turn
The Boots have blessed me with Pantograph. Double Boss is in trouble now.
Tyranny should be an IC rare
>>737340209Brutality should just still exist
>>737332432StS2 is currently in early access. We don't know how long it'll be in early access, but in the meantime they've been doing weekly balance patches, and there's new content that's been announced and planned for the future(e.g. Alternate act 2 and 3, as well as at a new character). For reference, I believe the first game was in early access for a little over a year.If the game doesn't click for you, so be it. But for your point about the exact same run each time, I kinda disagree?Your goal to Slay the Spire never follows the exact same path. Sure, you see a lot of the same enemies and cards and events and bosses, but the biggest point is that the order you see them is never the same(and sometimes they might not even show up).Each run, You're always starting from zero, and you're trying to cobble together something out of what the game gives you. There are so many decisions being made: per combat (e.g. do I block and stall, or take some damage to attack them), per act(e.g. what card should I pick up? Can I fight this elite?). And each time you make a decision, it's a decision that's slightly different from decisions in previous runs, because each run has its own unique set of circumstances. Basically, it's a game that rewards knowledge and planning as you make decisions on the fly that affect both the now and the long term of the run. And part of that knowledge and planning comes from the fact you'll know what you might encounter from the cards or enemies. For those who it clicks with, it's a satifying gameplay loop that rewards familiarity through playing it over and over.Still, I'd say 21 hours is a commendable amount of time, so if that's how you feel, then that's how you feel. (I just wanted a chance to shill the game I love.)(You didn't mention it if hard difficulties are your thing, but if so, the later ascensions past A7 do get quite rough.) honestly I've put too much time into this + word count limit, so I stop here.
>>737340148>2 charges remainingWow, I normally just use them like a silver crucible and immediately pump 5 campfires act 1 or something.I guess if you can get to A3 without them and dodge the shitty hard fights for campfires right at the end that's even better
>>737340095same as wings modifier in daily/custom, you can choose to ignore paths 3 times. Amazing if you want to dodge or fight more elites, go to a better ?/campfire/shop route, etc
>>737330526I once had a punch dagger'd ricochet+, mini canon, and prep timeit was truly ridiculous
>>737339703>take ruby>use lethality+>duplicate potion>14 energy eradicate+ with replay
>>737339221savescummed this horse shit and picked every doom card instead and also skipped danse for warpaint and it kills IF i use doom and strength pot or maybe if i rest at the final fire instead of upgrading negative pulsei underestimated the doom but man this shit is still so fucked. maybe i try shroud next
>>737340095Lets you spam upgrades or elites in Act 1 instead of doing fights you don't need
destroyed the goatse door again the dog boss was harder
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What I'm confused about is, what do the Chinese expect to accomplish by spamming negative reviews every update? They can all only do it once. There's no way to protest individual changes through reviews, just the like, overall state of the game. Do they just toggle their reviews from negative to positive to negative, over and over?
How many is too many anon?
>>737340731pretty much
>>737340731No one ever goes back and actually changes their reviews after this kind of bombing it's all ignorable if it's only coming from one group of asshurt retards
>>737340353At least they got Crimson Mantle as a "ping at the start of turn" self-harm power.Exhaust Brutality would help exhaust synergies, which feel way worse now that FnP is rare and corruption is ancient only
>>737340731They're not smart, what did you expect?Mega crit already made their millions and the fucking retards cannot refund it anyways.They already said they'll keep making the game harder and balancing it accordingly.
>>7373406853/4 get in here
>>737340731it’s because of the chinkraper doormakerthey can no longer play their CCP mandated infinites
>block 30 damage every turn bro>it's not even an elite
>>737340975literally me on the stupid bot summoning guy and the duo
>>737340731i was having fun translating them for lols and came across this one>Even if they rebalance Gate again, I still won’t withdraw my negative review. First, I hate developers who don’t even play their own game. Second, I can’t accept developers forcing players to play the game according to the developers’ own ideas. Third, I want the developers to realize that times have changed — no studio can ignore the feelings of Chinese playersthere also apparently was some fake rumour in chinese gaming circles that Anthony (SneakySly) said he wasn't able to beat a boss before pushing a patch so they're sperging out and attacking him in particular
>>737331615that's not even a good winrate though
>>737340975I died to the duo bird cultists somehow earlier I was just doing no fucking damage to the second one
>>737331798might as well savescum
>>737341035> no studio can ignore the feelings of Chinese playersi wish they did though, we’d get a lot of better quality games
>>737337498Fucked up that Vakuu has shit that will just tank your run entirely but then sometimes just decides here have the strongest relic in the game, on the house
>>737341035I heard he pushed the update just to specifically hurt Chinese people's feelings.
>ecelebs: hurr if you lose act 3 its cuz you just played act 1 wrong act 3 should always be free>me when i play act 1: barely scrape by with nothing that comes close to beating even act 2
>>737341035>Second, I can’t accept developers forcing players to play the game according to the developers’ own ideas. Holy fuck chinks are fucking retarded. What we need is more developers having a spine.
>open nexusmods >all the mods that make the game easier are in chinese
just get better at the game dumbass
>>737341035>developers should balance around the players ideas instead of their own ideas>also the developer should nerf shit if they can't figure out how to beat even though tons of players beat it just fine???
>>737341331diagnosis: get good
>>737341497yeah let me just beat act 3 with my cards that do 10 damage and zero synergies
>>737341552an ancient chinese proverb reads>拙匠埋怨工具差which roughly translates to>a poor worker blames his toolsfigured i’d send it in chinese first as you’re more likely to understand it, you chinigger plant
>>737341445yeah what's up with that? it's like 90% chinese, did they like sts1 this much too?
>>737339703I too was disappointed when the relic transformed for the first time
Wish this game had secrets, or events you have to unlock by doing a string of requirements Closest thing are the map and the key, but I mean something a bit more
>>737341785>beat a run with silent>without using shivs>without applying poison>without drawing any extra cards after turn 1>with no acrobatics or prepared>your reward?silent takes off her clothes
>>737341785There should be more going on with quests and enchants I thinkThey're good ideas but they feel rather limited with most enchants only having one way to get them, and only 3 quests that can appear
>>737338403I wonder if triangle would be threatening if it didn't give you energy for attacking it.
when i first saw doormaker i assumed some giganigga would emerge from the hole eventually and thought that'd be really coolkind of feels like that's what the character design is hinting towards, wonder if it was reworked before even the initial release
>>737338403Centipede is really swingyEither you can fucking explode it no problem or you eat 40 damage
>unplayable as soon as you get lethalitywhy does this card exist
>>737341976I tend to take a lot of chip damage on triangle. He has a lot of health, a lot of block, and hits for pretty large numbers most turns. I rarely lose to him, but I often lose a ton of health on him and it cripples the rest of my A2.millipede feels very reactive to your first few turns and is basically just sink or swim, bees is somewhere inbetween imo. but I don't think triangle's easy just because it's harder to lose to him.
>>737341035Doormaker, Chink Raper will truly go down as one of the best StS2 memes
>>737342084You take it when it comes pre-upgraded
>cards?exhausted>draw?nonexistent >energy?confiscated>doors?made>chinks?raped>threads?gaped>countries? FILTERED
>Shuriken early>Took Tez's soup for free strikes>Tanx crossbow for more free attacks.>Got a bunch of 1 star attacks and Offering.Surprised at how quickly I ended fights, like 2/3 turns for everything.
>>737334139https://gamesbeat.com/slay-the-spire-has-china-to-thank-for-launching-its-700000-sales-in-steam-early-access/Literally according to the devs it only picked up when it blew up in china.
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>>737340731Steam china blocks ALL social elements other than reviews.So they spam bad reviews when they want to leave feedback.Japan does the same shit with amazon lolAsias just fucking weird dude
>>737341035>sts2 devs>not playtesting their gameyou have to be genuinely retarded to believe something like that, the sts guys are severely autistic about their game kek
>>737342994>you have to be genuinely retarded to believe something like thatLike half the posters on /v/ then?
>>7373429282/4
Finally got the clone event and no game breaking cards...I assume it's just Hang?
>>737343223CLONE HANG
dude i am just getting so tired of taking 15 chip in every advanced hallway. also i thought they fixed up the map generation in this update. why does it feel worse?
>>737343223>no gamebreaking cards>has HangAnon, we're at 400 replies. There's no need to bait
>>737343223clone reaper form
Finally won with Silent using the power of the Membership Card in the first shop + 600 gold Act 2 from the quest + good mapsFound no AOE so I still took a billion damage from the centipede + Kaiser Crab and my only Sly enablers were Survivor and the late Shadow Step (skipped the one copy of Prepared I saw act 1)
what files do i make copies of to savescum back to the start of the act
>>737329539*ahem*
>>737343421at that point just a seed reader
I see bones? I click bones. Simple as.
>>737343223fetch works and doesn't make you eat 10000 when you draw all hangs and don't kill everything
I don't give a fuck if status Defect is "bad"I will always click on Trash to Treasure
>>737343223hang yourself
>>737343572playing 3 hangs turn 1 is already 70 damage
>>737343491i don't want to go back to act 1 that takes forever to click through i want to start at act 3
>>737343260>>737343356I realize it's powerful, and going to be my source of big damage, but it's still going to take time to ramp up at only 3 uses per turn. I can try to focus on energy gen cards but they'll all be buried and never be drawn.
>>737342370I just reached A10 on ironclad killing this joke of a bosshe doesnt do literally anything unless youre doing some tranny draw 1 billion play 1 billion cards in 1 turn deck bullshitI havent lost to him once since the patch dropped. A complete joke.>t1free turn to spam powers etc>t2dont play your one-trick-pony card turn, else modifier doesnt even matter>t3its like the modifier doesnt even exists turn, just play your hand>t4play your 0 cost cards last<repeat like once and the boss dieswow so hardand bugmen get filtered
thanks for the carry sneckonow i can never touch this character againrelative weakness aside he's just not fun at all
>>737343638Clone Hang to 8 clonesKeep your deck small and you can still shit out enough hangs while also having enough defenses
>>737343638I've done Clone hang runs all you gotta do is avoid elites, shopmax (fish for energy/block relics)You can also do fetch, it's more consistent and let's you do elites and beats doormaker for free too.
those eels got hands
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GG silent sisters
>>737343934gg
>>737333767You really shouldn't take elites on act 1 before the first chest. You have to have a big damage nuke card, an AOE card, and block besides defends. Elites are not worth it because you're just going to get gorget or permafrost or a fan for half your HP
I hate the hunter-killer
>>737344073genuinely have never struggled with this guy
most overrated enemies:hunter killerentomancerphantasmal gardenersproperly rated enemies:decimillipede
>>737328747I will never forgive this bitch noodle for ending my double card rewards + paels wing run but also I kind of deserved it cause I greeded for void form.
>>737344114I feel like he's a pushover on most setups, but on the few that he's not then he's just an absolute dickhead. My shiv deck got absolutely cucked by him.
Which millipede segment do (You) start hitting turn 1 (no aoe)?
>>737336512lots of people can beat it, sorry you can't
>>737344259Whichever one is going to buff.
>>737344259if i have no aoe and get forced into an act 2 elite and it's pede i just give up and start a new run lmao
>>737331646dunno why people hate this niggah. If my deck is good enough to reach him it's good enough to beat him everytime. Only deer can be a problem in act 1
>>737334703they were designed as a damage check, but all of act 2 is already a damage check so their "gimmick" is a non-issue in 99% of runs
>>737330590Chinese players consider playing without savescumming to be an optional challenge mode, so all of them are at A10 and only win by making infinite combos. Now that most infinites are nerfed and the door counters it, they can no longer play the game because they can't win with normal decks even if they savescum every turn.It's the most retarded and bitchmade country in the entire world.
>>737336512I like it because it proves I'm smarter than low IQs like you
Okay, fine.I vastly underestimated Hang
>>737328549Good too see china is going to ruin yet another good game
>>737336612>he's not coping well Sorry about your penis size anon, but history is history.
>>737330590being born yellowit's very tough
StS1 bosses had more sovl
>Chinese players say all westoids play exclusively on A0 so they don't understand the gameHilarious I say
>>737329513Don't listen to retarded Youtubers then. I still remember when all the top players were shitting on card creation, Shivs, Poison, and self-harm archetypes. Now they've all walked back on it. And these weren't even bad pre-patch.
>>737330559>Chink power is too stronglolthey don't care because they know what's coming
ill say it too, the way a lot of people have been talking about chinese/asian people and their gaming culture in these review bomb posts makes me mad uncomfortable as well.discussing the trend is one thing, but people are speaking about the proclivities of some chinese gamers as reflective of the whole, or as some sort of holistic damnation of an entire group of people. it would be like assuming that all americans are racist codbros who want to say bigoted shit on the game 24/7.
>>737345092You being a pussy HERE of all places, man? Seriously?
>>737345092know what makes me uncomfortable? cocks up my ass
>>737345147reads like a copypasted post from reddit
>>737345092I'm yellow too but I can't deny that other yellows also love cheesing and cheating in video games. Just look at that faggot JapaneseExport's first tier lists.
>>737344706Power of exponential scalingI miss Limit Break so much its unreal
>>737344786I'm glad he upscaled brown Regent but was the idle animation really necessary?
>>737345092>assuming that all americans are racist codbros who want to say bigoted shit on the game 24/7.they areand chiniggers get chinkraped by the doormaker
>>737345092>it would be like assuming that all americans are racist codbros who want to say bigoted shit on the game 24/7this is true thoughever
>>737345092>tfw basic pattern recognition and behavior analysis is racist, actually
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>>737345202Easiest (You)s of my life
>>737345226I think Dominate is a more fun version of Limit Break right now desu
I can't beat A10. help
>>737345540silent is monkey just click discard and sly and some dex
>>737328549>"actually I like this fight despite how it counters every deck unless you have a broken combination!"Faggot contrarian, kys tranny
>>737345745calm down
>>737345540On Silent? Alright listen up______________________________________________________________________________________________GIT_______GUD_______________________________________________________
>Shining strike>Particle Wall enchanted with retainYeah I win
Fuck the nigger dog dude. Whose dog is this? seriously does anyone know whose dog this is?36 damage phase 1, kill him so I dont eat it.BOOM 30 damage next turn! 40! 50! kill him before he can do 50 thenBOOM 30 damage! 45 damage!isn't average ~35 damage/round over 6 consecutive rounds full of circuit breakers and intangibles a bit fucking much?
>>737345745I dunno why people struggle so much against doormaker. Just pick more cards in Act 30 bro, it's not hard. Shopmax if you have to. He dosn't require a broken deck.So many subhumans playing like bots, MUH DECK MUST GO INFINITE MUST HAV SMALL DEK Brainlets
>>737345540Keep restarting until you get Adrenaline at the start then hope you get Dagger Throw
GG's we destroyed the great door of china
>>737345092Yeah, pretty much agree with what you’ve said. It’s a shame that a good portion of this thread is barely even about StS and is just anons bashing on others. Like, just go play the game; I assure you, that’s way more fun
>>737345853>thinking infinites are the problem>every a10 deck win so far is the exact same shitAt least infinites provided variety since the game is already solved on what deck you need to guarantee A10 wins, adding an enemy that invalidates variety is retarded
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>>737345992Say what this "exact same shit" isInfinites are bad design is any cardgame and should always be nerfed, always. Acquiring an infinite should require a lot of risk and luck.
>>737345745>chinkraper claims another chigga
>>737345992i don't think posters like these have even fought a10 doormaster. he doesn't "invalidate variety" because exhausting some cards isn't a big deal.
doorman is statistically the easiest act 3 boss especially after they buffed dognigger
i don't even know what's good on ironclad. i just pick some random bullshit and hope it works and see no good archetypesi'm on a10 at least
Problem with the game are doormaker (still) and how absurd taking elite fights is for what you get for doing them, especially in act 1.
>>737346160These "people" are allergic to having more than 20 cards in their deck.
>>737346095It invalidates slow decks
>>737345853Couple loops and I'm out of block cards and still on 1/3 of his hp
>>737346058nta but acquiring an infinite in the current version already requires a lot of risk and luck. The few times I feel like I can build an infinite at this point in the game, I don't really feel the need to. like it's easier to just make a deck that wins.Having a boss that says "akshully you can just never target an infinite ever because there's a 2/3 chance you'll instantly lose on rolling act 3" is gay. I'm avoiding too thin decks from act 1 just because I know I lose the game if I succeed at it.the only sts boss that comes remotely close to ruining archetypes from floor 1 is time eater with shivs, but he doesnt even rape shivs as hard as doornigger rapes all decks below the state mandated minimum of 20 cards. it does reduce variety and that is bad for the game.
>>737346058>its bad because I said it is!I bet you also think infinite players "didnt beat the game" because you finally got a win as the Silent by shiv stacking and getting the right Sly cards, such "risk," come back when you win with a dedicated poison build.
>>737346174elite fights are not the issue sans niggerpedehallway fights are the problem with the current design, you want to avoid them as much as physically possible because they provide very little reward for the HP loss
>>737346280Why should I be forced to have any particular amount of cards in my deck? There's a reason why Time Eater was considered to be the biggest nigger faggot in StS1 and it's because it was one of the few fights that could look at your deck, decide it didn't like what it saw and said 'too bad fucker, you'd better get everything perfect now or your run is over'.I have no idea why there's anybody pushing more for shit like that now that we're in a position to actually be offering feedback on how much freedom the game gives you when it comes to deciding how to build your deck.
>>737345808you actually have to try to build a deck that actually consistently does damage now without getting to stall for 10 turns to scale
>>737346446it is way too fucking easy to build a sub 20 card deck that beats everything else"muh variety" is just you coping that your garbage easy mode decks don't win anymoredoor is good for the game.
>>737345943stop cheating, I don't care if it's part of your culture.
The chinese community EXCLUSIVELY savescums all the time.Their opinion is irrelevant
>>737346518""""""Forced""""""Cope, but mostly seethe
>cards you want to keep on hunger phase >all my draw on scrutiny phase>never enough energy on grasp phaseevery single time
i do not care about the chinesesi just want 4th energy again
>>737346518Because the fags who played STS1 religiously believe if the game doesnt have enemies with mechanics out of your control that can just end your run without any effort is fun so they asked for more mechanics that punish you for drawing wrong so that they can go on the forums and go "git gud," the playerbase for this game are as bad as the soulsfags.
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i haven't won a10 without savescumming yet but im glad that they changed door and i like his current stateif i get to act 3 and door is not there i am sad because i was looking forward too seeing if i solved himat least test subject is fun now too
>>737328549i lose a lot because i'm bad at the game but i'm still on ascension 9 with silent and 8 with necrobinder :DD
>>737346848>>737346842GET IN >>737346787GET IN >>737346787
>>737346682>man this fight really sucks>its your fault for making the fight suck, just build your deck this way instead>what? why should i have to do that>YOU DON'T HAVE TO>ok...but then the fight sucks and i don't want that>LMAO MALD
Door needs 2 changes>2nd phase changed to you can only draw once>3rd phase changed to every 3 cards you playThen just buff his damage and then think he's in a good spot. He feels unfair right now even though he's the easiest act 3 boss
pls game why couldn't you give me some card draw or something for my act 3 ancient i don't want this fucking energy gen i already have hot cocoa + bread and one single 1-cost power please please give me card draw and the good powers for once
>>737346869you good with low asc? i haven't done much mp
>>737346975Yeah sure we'll get you your ascs up.
>He feels unfair right now even though he's the easiest act 3 bossyou people have no self awareness
>>737346994ah it's full rip
>>737346930Preach brotherI for example hate block cards and being forced to use them like a coward instead of attack onlies like a true Chad
>>737345283What idle animation?
>>737347029Sorry another A0 anon joined
>>737347006I literally said he's the easiest boss, what the fuck do you want. He's just not that fun to play versus
>>737347091this is just a very roundabout "not hard just annoying" whine
>>737347006To be fair>Spins the wheel, 70% of the time you win, 30% of the time you loseWould be the easiest and least fair boss.I haven't been able to fight the door yet cause I haven't rolled it so I have no real opinion, just pointing it out that those things aren't mutually exclusive desu
>>737347006Perception of fairness is subjective
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>>737347131but that is a valid complaint
>they're making mods like this Say it after me.DOORMAKER
>>737347131Yes? He's not hard. He hits 11x2 on turn 4 and has 1 free turn of set upHe just has way too many cockblocks even for normal decks. What I propose still stops infinites but helps mitigate bad turns
>>737347051She points and laughs at the enemy in the updated version, also has a death animation now
>>737347230You’d think Doormaker was Taiwanese with the way that China is so butthurt about him
Let's be honest, if you feel the game is bad, you're probably Chinese.
>>737347225its a cope from shitters who want it to be easiersee >>737347298 asking for door to be more lenient so his deck doesn't have to be as good while claiming it has nothing to do with difficulty
>>737347375Ooh yeah that regentgaki, that one's my favorite and I hope they do card art for it, I thought you meant the lil nugget loli one at #2 in the image.
>>737346591lol? If you want to own people on 4chan so bad you're typing "Muh variety" to imply there literally shouldnt be viable decks under 20 cards, you need to take a DEEP breath.
The no draw phase feels really shitty when you draw a hand full of draw and you're forced to tank the hit
>>737347469>buff his damage>buff his damage>buff his damageRead, you fucking inbred
>>737347486>1 mana do nothingDraw is retarded anyways. You should fill your deck with good cards instead.
>>737347131That's literally DoormakerThe devs are retarded and instead of having some elegant mechanic like Timeeater they decide to add ANOTHER layer of randomness to your draw>draw your important attacks on exhaust turn>draw your card draws on no draw turnThe dev says that they want to make the boss "more like a puzzle" except every turn half your cards are not playable. Are you going to kill him because he has no damage and HP? Yes. Is he a fucking uninteractive and boring boss? Yes.At least vs time eater you are actively encouraged to count how many cards you can play this turn vs next turn. What do you do vs Doormaker? Nothing. You can't even play most your cards. You eat enough powers and he dies. He's an easy boss designed to be annoying because once again, the devs took "we don't like infinite" too far and the end result is just a boring mess that gets in the way of the game.
They should bring back the door minion as a breather
>>737347528This is the sort of brain dead retard that is arguing about how Doormaker is a good boss people>card draw in card game is le badYOU ARE BROWN
>>737347230>DOORMAKERCHINKRAPER
>>737347485there are sub 20 card decks that work against door. in fact there are infinites that still work against door. its just not every 20 card deck and infinite works against him. because he asks you to make good decks now.
I hope they at least keep the exhaust phase, choosing what to keep is fun.
>>737332063Remove defends on clad probably
>>737346954>>737347583he does seem a LOT more dependent on first shuffle than time eater despite filling the same niche. Despite the cortisolmaxxxing ragecels itt trying to argue with everyone, these are good points.Making doormaker hit harder and control your deck a bit less would make him less free for fat decks and more of a soft-counter for thin decks instead of an overly specialized gimmick
>>737345853>struggle against DoormakerI haven't really struggled against him (especially the .103 version after fighting through .102, and I'd honestly say Lizard Phase 1/2 is scarier most of the time) but Phase 2/3 are just incredibly polarising. Phase 1 is whatever and similar to the Queen's Bind mechanic; with further macro-level decisions on the rest of the fight/cycles. Phase 2/3 are literally just hope you draw well with no way to really influence it, that just murders alot of cards in the process. Drew any sort of draw card whose secondary effect (if it even has one) has a lesser effect because of said draw value? It's basically unplayable/useless for Phase 2. Drew any sort of 2+ cost card during Turn 3? It's basically unplayable, also enjoy only playing 2 1 cost cards on average for the turn.If you applied the Doormaker design philosophy to the Queen's Bind mechanic, it'd be something along the lines of locking out the first 2 cards you drew each turn; it's challenging I guess but in a way that's not really fun to interact with/doesn't really provide any avenues of engaging with it.
>>737347743and if a deck beats anything else in the game while taking approximately 0 damage but loses to doormaker is it good, anon?
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>>737347223bruh
You WILL bloat your deck with useless RNG garbage because that faggot Anthony doesn't play his own game and hates sub-30 card decks.
Door is pretty easy as Regent, you have draw next turn options, putting cards on top of your pile, retain with convergence. Also if you just get pyramid door is free, in fact it makes the entire game free
>>737347223connection timed out again.
>>737348091is anthony the asian one? he said he thinks snakebite is fine and people don't know how to evaluate cards when the game is still new kek
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>>737348009Nope, because you had all of act 3 to pivot
you had a whole act filled with player agency at every corner and you still couldn't plan adequately for doormaker? shameful display
>>737348137snakebite is legit fine. a bit worse now that colony hits every turn, but pickable in both act 1s.
>>737348236it's still one of the worst cards in the game
>start act 3>see chinkraper is final boss>do nothing for your deck in the 8/10 opportunities you get to prepare for him>get to him>he sees you haven’t adjusted your deck for him>he also sees you’re a chink>he rapes youWAAHH WAAHH DOORMAKER OP THE PEOPLE OF CHINAS FEELINGS ART HURT
>>737348190Is your belief that a3 is (or should be) free and beatable by totally remaking a deck with 6 random card rewards and a shop? No? What's the matter, don't wanna admit doormaker actually bricks deck variety? Retard.
>>737348369>chink status:>RAPED
>>7373481802/4
>>737348256granted.
>>737348180come on guys get in here 2/4
oh no i’m about to drive into a wall in about 20 minutes, i better adjust my trajectory and get back on the road so i don’t kill myself>chinese people inherently can’t understand this and its why they’re bad at driving and beating doormaker
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>>737348565>Another disconnect right before the boss diedDamn...
>>737348481FUCK you
>>737348412no argument, low IQ brownoid opinion discarded.
nihao motherfuckers
>>737348137snakebite is a one card act 1 boss solveif my deck is looking weak it's a surefire way to survive into act 2
>china china chinaHow about your runs Mr. Anon O. Moose? Surely you are playing the game?
>>737348607GOOD post
>>737348684I'm playing 1!Corruption + Barricade + Dark Embrace + Body Slam is fun.
>>737348607I lol'd
>>737348645crucible with snakebite is the only time I'll ever consider picking the card. It's good into 5/6 of the act 1 elites and good against all bosses but becomes dogshit as soon as you go into act 2. Unupgraded snakebite feels bad and I don't know if I want to use the first smith on it versus neutralize which will continue to be useful in act 2 and 3
>>737348565How do you create a link for hosting a game?
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>>737348892Thanks!
>>737348565gg
Hosting once again because I am off tomorrow and multiplayer is funsteam://joinlobby/2868840/109775242582866600/76561198043831607>>737347029>>737346975Now's your chance
>>737349126Skill issue
>>737348256its really not
