>You now realize these are all excellent.Literally all they're missing is decent multiplayer. Hell, even Doom 3 is pretty great.There are no bad Doom games.
>>737329818>sneaks in dark agesoh no you don't
call of duty but with a world of warcraft skin
>>737330049You have never touched these games, Call of Duty or World of Warcraft in your life.
Doom 2016 had decent multiplayer. Doom Eternal's biggest failing is not iterating on that multiplayer and making it great.
>>737330719cod clone player too oblivious to realize the truth
Doom 2016 was ok, Eternal was peak millennial redditslop. I avoided Dark Ages so I have no idea but nobody talks about it so I assume it was equally trash.
They're great, but I really want a more grounded Doom game again. The doom guy can be badass without being a heckin powerful Doom slayaaa God. The demons should be scary and the odds should feel against you, not this "the doom guy isn't stuck in a room with demons, the demons are stuck in a room with doom guy" reddit shit.
>>737331040thank that spic at id for this
>>737329818DOOM and DOOM Eternal where amazing but they went full retard with the lore
I loved 2016 and Eternal but it was physically painful for me to finish Dark Ages. It's such a bland, generic, joyless piece of shit it's just insane. Those robot and dragon segments in particular were atrocious.
>>737331040Eternal was for taking the powers of the slayer to their maximum, and then taking them even further, not about being badass. But that being said, using a magic grapplehook on a magic shotgun to fly in a straight line into a demon's face and then using a magic chainsaw to split it in half and then pulling out a sniper rifle to snipe a caco mid air and then punching an imp so hard you blow up every other imp in the immediate area instantly and then pulling out a sword powered by demon hell energies to slice a tyrant in half and then calmly walking out of the room after is pretty badass if you ask me.
>>737329818Get Dark Ages out of there.
DOOM2 low key sorta mid ngl ong
Admittedly I haven't played Dark Ages yet since I'm waiting for the dlc but Doom 3 is still the best one to me.>>737333650No, it was explicitly about forcing players to imitate this videohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72S2aAxtZOs
>>737329818>Hell, even Doom 3Hell no.
>>737331001Eternal was peak
Is there an overhaul for Dark Ages that removes the mech levels, the dragon sections, the turret sections, and the constant slow motion? I think I would play it if it weren't for those.
1 > 64 > TDA > Eternal > 2016 > 2 >>> 3
>>737329818dark ages just isnt good ... more, its just really badits a high budget version of a shitty xbox 360 tie in gameits a linear corridor shooter with fucking brain dead nonsensical plot, 0 balance, 0 difficulty curve, on rails mech and dragon sections, shitty shallow turret sections, constant retarded cinematics, no multiplayer, no modding and no NEW GAME + eventhe last minute is as hard and complicate as the first, the fact it has 3x less enemy types than eternal means its so repetitive you will have enough after 3 hoursif not for the brand name there is 0 way it would get more than 5/10 from most game sites\so yeah .. first 2 are good, but have their flawsdoom 2016 - 8/10, too much down time and unescapable talking sectionsdoom eternal - 8/10, weak plot, weak platforming(invisible walls everywhere), shit dlcsdark ages - 6/10, if im being very generous, just not good
>>737335813I'm not afraid to admit the "Spirit" filtered me. That thing's design was the last straw for all the shit I put up with in that game.
>>737335902the way the made the first DLC too hard, then second too easy, introduced bunch of pointless and 1 time mechanics on top of the "satan is doom guy" shit, everything felt just so half assedhugo marting watching too many marvel movies, and wanted le ebin "avengers assemble" shit in a doom game, that guy is a complete hacksince he took over with the DLCs the series went straight to shit
>>737329818>Hell, even Doom 3 is pretty great.Shut the fuck up, Zoomer. It was shit then, it is shit now, and will always be shit until someone makes a decent rebalance mod.
Nah Eternal was trash. Get this super mario brothers ass platforming garbage out of my Doom game, it even has fucking unironic 1UPs. You CAN'T make this shit up. Not to mention the garbage exposition dump cringe dialogues the game pushes in your face every checkpoint, how can they be so bad at writing? The gameplay is alright, but isn't nearly good enough to compensate for all the garbage, and it keeps the worst parts from 2016, like the maps being walk into room, lock it down, arena fight waves of demons, arena lock lifts, walk into the next room, repeat. Garbage. And don't even get me started on doubling down the shitty glory kill crap so now you have to cinematic chainsaw a monster after every 3 shots. Fuck, the more I think back on the game the more parts I remember being garbage. Eternal is just a shit game that git gud fags can't stop sucking off just because it's hard, and that's literally all they care about, they don't give a shit that everything else is made of shit and garbage.
>>737336785
>>737336785>how can they be so bad at writing?Since Hugo Martin wants to be the writer, director and designer.2016 is the only of the 3 that had an actual writer, and its the only one that makes any logical senseeternal, dlcs and dark ages have a nepohire who fired the writer and made himself the writer guy, and since hes the series head nobody in the studio can even call him out on how fucking bad he isi wouldnt be even so mad if Martin could fucking keep his own lore straight, instead the series is full of retcons, mistakes, potholes and contradictionsnothing he shit out in eternal codexes is even in dark ages, he completely forgot what he wrote and didnt give a shit to look it up
>>737329818Eternal is unfocused and unfinished arcade trash.
>>737337237not as much as 2016
>>737337792Arenas were less offensive.
>>737329818the first one did have a good mp it just feels like a seperate different game
>>737332082There is no other game like it so your criticism is actually totally empty.
>>737337907what
>>737333650But using the chainsaw is not a normal weapon how you pose it, it activates a animation. Same with the sword. There is no actual melee system in the game which kills the flow you are describing.
>>737329818>You now realize these are all excellent.No, I only realize the second one was the least shitty out of a very subpar trilogy.
>>737329818TNT kinda ruined Final Doom.
>>737332082>Those robot and dragon segments in particular were atrocious.You think thats bad?Try replaying the game.You dont really get how truly awful those sections are until you have to play it twice, the liberality, slowness, the complete lack of any depth, challenge or player freedom make it among some of the worst gaming moments ever.
>>737329818Anything past Doom 2 is basically turn based for how slow it is.
>>737329818Weird baitThere's no nu-zoom retard who likes Doom 3And vice versa
>>737338074I hated that, they're basically "delete this tough enemy" buttons and aren't interesting to use at all. I was so excited when the sword first appeared in the trailer.
>>737329818>chainsaws for magic ammo>shoots epic Arachnotron™ weakpoint after lining up shot for 5 seconds while dashing side to side because pro Quake™ skills>retarded door opening cutscene plays>"Mhmm....rip and tear.. looks like the Hell Priest™ is nearby.. I will rip and tear because I am the ancient Doom Slaya™>"Come on, Vega™">follows Skyrim™ compass>Picks up 10 epic fanfiction-tier lore dumps about how badass the Slaya™ is on the way>Door locks behind the Slaya™ and demons appear>cacophony of retarded monster noises while the fart synth kicks into action>chainsaws for magic ammo>"Rip and tear" WUBWUBWUBBWAMBWAMDUUUUUNUUUUNUUHHHNHUHHH *Uses Flame Belch™ on a deliberately spawned group of Possessed™ and they become Staggered™, does a badass Heat Blast™ and Armor Shards™ fly into the Slaya™'s face*>chainsaws for magic ammo>switches weapons 75 times>dashes aimlessly waiting for a Possessed™ to spawn>chainsaws for magic ammo>swings on monkey bars>performs impse>250 arena laps and 150 chainsaw uses later the Slaya™ is victorious>Mhmm.. The Hell Priest™ is not here.. Better tell Samuel Hayden™ about this>"Come on, Vega™">Walks two meters and Alien Queen™ appears in an epic cutscene>"You will not defeat me, Slaya™, I am the Emperor of the Universe and you are nothing but a Usurper™, the Kar En Kuk™ Council of Elder Alien Space Sentinel Argent D' Nur™ has banished you from the alien kingdom and I will defeat you!">Cut to black and level ends before epic boss fight so player can process how epic this is and maybe make a Reddit™ post about it before carrying on>DUNDUNDUNBWAMBWAMBWAM Mick Gordon farting BAM BAM BAM 50 ACTION POINTS 5 CRUCIBLE CREDIT SENTINEL SHIP ARGENT RECEIVED
>>737339895fuck you on aboutdoom 2 didnt even support proper mouse controls, it was slow and shit, but your character moved too fast
>>737332082Weird I also loved 2016, hated Eternal, and liked Dark Ages
>>737335801Who are you trying to bait?2>1>643>2016>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Cringeternal=Dark Cringes
uh oh, fpslet melty!!
>>737340079
2016 walked so Eternal could run
>>737340427I miss the Gauss Cannon.
I dislike the pinata ammo explosions in the whole nudoom trilogyI just rolled my eyes at the colored balls in dark agesfrom eternal and on this kind of stuff feels way too game-y which contrasts the rest of the overall visual style they were going forwould have worked better if they want for a lower poly artstyle
>>7373298182016 had fun multiplayer
>>737340427>shoot enemies>they die>Eternal fans will tell you it's the most groundbreaking fps gameplay since Wolfenstein 3D if not Maze War
>>737340638Demonstrating you don't understand the fundamentals isn't the own you think it is
I played more of the multiplayer in 2016 than the single player. The single player felt like some fps creator modular slop
Sorry, I'm never paying >60 bucks for a game.
>>737329818i'd still rather play doom wads.
>>737331130You know Hugo waa ok in Doom 2016. But then with Eternal he suddenly started with all this "fun zone" shit. And introduced cooldown-slop. And since normies hadn't had that before in a proper shooter, they ate it up.
no they are AAA consoleslop>doom 3The fundamentals are still intact but it's quake 3 stuck in a survival horror game
>>737331001>peak millennial redditslopThat doesn't mean anything, the game played like a dream and ran like greased lightning even on toasters.
>>737335813>8/10: it's shit
>>737340882For me it’s Eveternity
>>737340919how is nudoom consoleslop, exactly?
Like the original doom but 2016 felt like a movie game. Never played 3
>>737336642I played it on the OG xbox because that's what I had at the time, it was the prettiest game I had ever seen. That game is also tense as fuck on higher difficulties. Miss me with your babyduck syndrome.
>>737341083you are based. for me its ancient ayys
>doom 1+2Ludokino>doom 3Weird but interesting>doom 2016Kino>doom eternalReddit slop>doom dark agesHavent played this one but it looks like garbage
>>737340005Doom supported mouse controls since the original game first released as shareware.
2016 was okThen it became marvel capeshit
>>737340882That's h*ckin' kewl ngl
>>737341183uh oh, fpslet melty!
>>737340919>but it's quake 3
>KwelFUCK YOU AND YOUR NIGGER DECK
I played a game called satan for like a buck and it's better than all of these
>>737341289Awful
>>737341249Reddit is down the hall>>737341305
>>737341324uh oh, fpslet melty!
>>737329818both Zoom and Boom were never good
Dark Ages wasn't outright unplayable but it became dull as hell for me after I became proficient at its mechanics. Every enemy can be defeated with almost no struggle with just the super shotgun and a few abilities. Maybe you need to remove their armor before you stun them with the shield charge (one SSG shot, shield charge and melee), maybe you need to use the shield charge to force the enemy to use a parryable attack, but besides these slight deviations every enemy can be easily stunlocked while pouring ammo, armor and (if you're below about 75% health) health pickups. The game has a hidden mechanic that stops you from being killed when above 5HP, so you can facetank everything and ignore the fodder that despawns when you kill the 2-3 real enemies in each encounter.I played the game on Ultraviolence and died 1-2 times total outside boss fights where you can't facetank due to not having fodder to heal you. Eternal isn't what I want out of DOOM but I respect its well-designed gameplay loop that pushes you to use most of your weapons and all your abilities to survive at UV, while TDA asked very little of me.
>>737339989>>performs impseEvery fucking time.
>>737340427Why is it so slow?
>>737341184mouse turning, not mouse control you twatmoving your mouse forward to move forward, and moving it back to move back wasnt exactly acceptable way of playing
>>737329818As an '01 zoomer, this is how I'd rank them.Eternal > No Rest For The Living > Plutonia Experiment > Dark Ages > Sigil > Ultimate Doom > Doom 64 > Doom 2 > TNT Evilution > Doom 2016 > Doom 3 > Master Levels for Doom 2A couple notes:> 2016 was my first Doom game and I enjoyed it a lot, but repeat playthroughs showed just how flawed and unbalanced the gameplay itself was and it's gotten to the point where I'd rather replay all of TNT than play 2016 again>Ultimate Doom goes above 64 and 2 because I like Thy Flesh Consumed>I haven't played Sigil 2 or Legacy of Rust yet but I plan to soon. I also haven't played The Lost Mission yet so maybe it's secretly the masterpiece to save Doom 3>Dark Ages is vastly improved by turning the slowmo off and turning speed up to 150%, otherwise it'd fall between 2 and TNT>I played NRFTL, Plutonia, TNT, and Master Levels with the custom midipacks so their rankings might be a little inflated. Still doesn't save Master Levels at all but it does at least make it tolerable>There are WADs I've played like Eviternity and Ancient Aliens that clear this entire list
>>737329818they just should update 2016 multiplayer
>>737341970You could still WASD and just use the mouse to turn.
>>737341183>Havent played this one but it looks like garbagewait for a sale and some dlcsi played it for free and i still felt ripped offno idea how its so much shorter, has so much less enemies and still no multplayer, no snap map and no master levelsthe desperate padding with 2 hours of cinematics and those awful mech sections, weird empty dragon missions is so transparent its insulting, the actual game is half as long as 2016/eternalwhat the fuck were they working on all those years?
>>737340882How is your .WAD coming along anon? I haven't seen this in a long time, /agdg/ sucks too bad.
>>737342259not him, but he sometimes posts in the doom general over at /vr/
>>737330763>Doom 2016 had decent multiplayer. Doom Eternal's biggest failing is not iterating on that multiplayer and making it great.its was legit alrightruined by lack of anticheat and lack of private serversbut it was made by another studio, there dosnt seem to be anybody at ID today who knows how to make an online game
>>737342259I blew my .WAD all over your mom's face.
>mute autistic who can instantly pull an arsenal of guns from his ass>mute autistic who is inspector gadget and also satan or something >mute autistic now with coomrim skin
>>737343474>and also satan or somethingi still dont get itthat and doom guy betraying and killing father which seemed like a complete 180 from the character we got to knew seems like hugo martin just gave up and let his 3 year old kid write the dlcs
>>737329818ULTRAKILL mogs all nudoom titles brutally.
>>737343637I never finished slopternal I dumped it about 30 minutes in lel, I think there is a scene where some demon woman thing talks to you, I alt + f4 and trashed it, I had my fill of cringe
>>737343969Sanic looking shit where you can also instantly swap between guns
>>737329818God i love eternal and dark ages so much. People who don't like dark ages just wanted eternal again, which is valid because eternal is so good, but dark ages really isn't trying to be that. Its slower but much more punchy. They're very different. Eternal is like a machine gun and dark ages is a shot gun. 2016 is just outclassed by both of them in every way. God i love them so much. Just pure gaming. >mfw playing nu doom
>>737329818>dark agesKill thyself
>>737329818>Literally all they're missing is decent multiplayer.Yeah why didnt Doom 2016 have multiplayer? Like with how successful it is, how pretty it is and everything, surely they couldnt've milked it with a MP DLC or something?Isnt getting high and playing Deathmatch like all Romero even does?
>>737348371>Yeah why didnt Doom 2016 have multiplayer?It did.It was just a bland arena shooter.
>>737340079Approved.
