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More searches than players.
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>Most discord members
>Most searched game on steam charts
This game is an actual humiliation ritual
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>on SteamDB
kek so a lot of people are basically checking steam player numbers over and over again to see if it flopped
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>>737339161
Correct
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Flopathon removing Marathon from its top scrolling banner is really annoying, now you have to search for it or remember the URL. The overall redesign looks worse too.
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>>737339161
>to see if it flopped
thats so 2025, we enjoy the flops in real time now
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>>737339161
Yup.
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Might not pass 20k today. Mid season update last week btw
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I purchased a key on Humble Bundle around launch but never redeemed it. I have about one day to refund it. Should I refund it?
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>>737339370
I think Sony will refund all purchases soon.
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>>737339370
Never buy another bungie product again
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>>737339370
what else are you gonna do? play it?
good chance the game will go f2p soon anyways so your key is just gonna be a bunch of cosmetics
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>>737338932
>>737339161
holy rent free
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>>737339161
>if it flopped
its not if, its to witness new record low every other day kek
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>>737338932
Holy kek. Haters, care to explain your newest obsession?
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>>737339583
>>737339618
You lost xir. It flopped
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.....
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End Bungie.
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>>737339817
>2 months ago

KEKAROOOOOOO
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Projected max concurrent player count for all platforms.
Marathon: 29637
Destiny 2: 44696
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THREE AND A HALF BILLION DOLLARS
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ALREADY ON SALE

BWAHAHAHAHA
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>>737340265
>>737340564
How will they cope around this?
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>>737340963
The usual. Just plug ears, close eyes and say the game didn't flop
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>>737340564
Its been $32 on gmg since before release anon.
t. bought it for $32 over a month ago.
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>>737338932
i did that
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>>737341323
Don't forget "having a blast".
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>>737338954
>This game is an actual humiliation ritual.
It was cemented from launch with that unintentionally brutal 'congratulatory' tweet from the StS2 devs. Although frankly the entirety of Marathon's life from its reveal in 2023 to now has been one long string of new embarrassments. It's like the vidya equivalent of Sideshow Bob stepping on rakes.
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>>737339161
m8, it flopped on launch weekend. What people are doing now is watching a limbo contest to see how low the charts can go.
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>>737339876
SBMM won't save the game with the player counts this low. The whole reason people are whining about needing SBMM is precisely BECAUSE the matchmaking pool has thinned out to the point where it's bloodthirsty premade sharks (the sweats/cheaters) on one side, and everyone else on the other. And if you're not a shark, you're getting raped by them.
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the only reason people look up games on steamDB is to see sales/playercount stats and talk about them
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2 months later
Still not dead
Still has engagement
Still no layoffs

Still rent free

/v/ lost again
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>>737341323
>>737341442
chanmonkeys can only express themselves with memes
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Damn niggy, what happened?
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>>737341670
just have patience
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>>737339161
>>737338932
>>737339583
What's more impressive is that those search numbers are probably being inflated by one or two completely mindbroken individuals

https://files.catbox.moe/qr5s4y.mp4

Marathon Derangement Syndrome is real
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>>737341670
>>737341897
Why are you still trying? You've actually been making these same posts since day 1
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>>737341897
>Marathon Derangement Syndrome is real
not agreeing with either side but cant they create original terms for anything
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>>737341420
Terrorist
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>>737342075
no. they simply take whats popular and change it to "no u"
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>>737341670
I absolutely love that you shills have been reduced to
>Sony didn't shut it off yet
>no layoffs

Because there's literally nothing else to cling to as the ship continues sinking.
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>>737341897
>that same webm
I kneel every time.

And btw shill-anon, today's peak was below 20k on PC.
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>>737341897
holy based
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AHAHAHAHA THERE IT IS
THE PLATEAU
LESS THAN 20K
DEAD
game
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>>737341972
>he's been getting BTFO by the same posts for two months nonstop
KWABOTY
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>>737338932
>marathon niggers will celebrate any metric except number of players
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>>737339817
lmao i wish this video would blow up again, not too many new comments commenting about how well that video aged
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>>737341897
>https://x.com/Patrickwj1994
>This account doesn’t exist
Meanwhile, you're still spamming that video every day and even changing the MD5. Who's the mindbroken one here, really?
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>he's been getting BTFO by the same posts for two months nonstop
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>>737342929
Uhm, didn't you hear chuddie? My fellow xisters say the game stabilized at 20k so it's totally normal that it dips slightly below that on occasion. Now buy the game and purchase a George Droyd skin to apologize. NOW
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>>737343149
Little bro better be on a self harm watch list by now with how badly Marathon has been getting BTFO in the last month.
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Stop fucking complaining.
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>>737343501
>y'all
i love these red flags that let me know i'm about to read nonsense. saves me so much time
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>>737338932
That many people obsessed huh?
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>>737339161
Guilty as charged. I want Concord 3, dammit.
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I think we did it (by doing nothing). I think we're getting our first sub-20k peak.
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>>737338932
>>737338950
more people's livelihoods depend on it flopping than depend on it succeeding
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>>737341420
You God damn chuds! You think this is a fucking game? People rely on this game to feed their families! If it fails then Poc children will go hungry! Visas will be denied!

Fuck you chuds!
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>>737343704
By looking at marathon's steam charts you committed an act of economic terrorism, don't try to act innocent now.
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>>737343830
>an entire industry has built around AAA slop failing
>but don't worry, this means AAA slop is actually winning
kek
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>>737343935
i didnt say that
i dont play AAA slop
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>>737339161
Yes
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For some perspective, some old ass zombie game that came out 17 years ago, has a daily peak of 28k.
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under 20k peak its over
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>>737342929
20k is actually incredibly good for a hardcore niche extraction shooter.
I don't know why you guys are making such a big deal out of this
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>>737343920
It's so fun that the only popular thing about it is #1 on SteamDB search ranking. Because I actually did do something: I refreshed that page a few times.
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mauler will make a 24 hour video on this
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>>737344109
>20k is good for a game that cost 200million dollars
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>>737344090
>some old ass zombie game
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>>737344109
Because the budget was hundreds of millions of dollars. There's not enough people buying in game funko pops to make back the money they lost. I never WISHED for marathon to fail but it's pretty clear that it is right now financially.
I've even seen posts of fans that are complaining that they want to buy skins but they all look fucking awful.
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>>737338932
CD bros...why didn't we capture the zeitgeist like these other games
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steamdb could start a side business allowing publishers to pay to hide or inflate player numbers
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Wait... didn't they just have a big update?
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>>737344595
no it was just a mid season balance patch
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>>737344109
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>>737341420
QRD? Moot delivering pizza?
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>>737344020
if that's not what you were saying then wtf were you saying?
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>>737344109
>88k is amazing
>80k is marvelous
>70k is astonishing
>60k is stunning
>50k is extraordinary
>40k is wonderful
>30k is great
>20k is incredibly good <——- you’re here
>10k is good
>5k is decent
>1k is …
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I can't believe this evil incel EA funded hate campaign has killed such an objectively amazing game with no faults whatsoever.
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>>737345182
this
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>>737345182
Post your body count, non-incel.
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>>737345182
So what will the cope be when the seasonal wipe returns everyone to square 0 yet the numbers fail to improve in any meaningful degree?
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>>737345356
They will just forget they ever used that line of cope and keep on with the "evil chuds made their friends stop playing" line.
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>>737339876
Bungie isn't incompetent, they're outright malicious.

I played D2 on launch, and by day 3, using an exploit, I accidentally discovered there was XP scaling that rapidly diminished level gains in order to stop players from farming the fucking light engrams or whatever they were called. The loot boxes for cosmetics.

I reported it on the Bungie forums, my thread and comments removed and I initially got a 1 year suspension. I appealed, and contacted Bungie's CM's, and my suspension got upgraded to a permaban 4 days later. I go onto Reddit, waste my time and make a post, within the hour its deleted and I'm IP banned. Fucking figures.

Thank god this was back in the dag of rentals, but fuck me I still am furious years later, didnt help when the very same cumstain YouTubers who I reached out to on launch, to spill the beans and ignored/blocked me turned around and crucified Bungie when the public sentiment was against Bungie and a single Reddit post pointing what I did all those years ago, blew up.

I will cum gallons the day I drag myself out of bed and see Bungie has been officially shuttered.
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>>737345579
>I played D2 on launch
Ah, yes. D2.
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>>737345386
goddamn evil chuds with their big circles of friends, corrupting them an shiett. ;)
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>>737345182
if the game was "objectively great", wouldn't people be playing it anyway?
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>>737344109
>hardcore niche extraction shooter.
can you genuinely explain how extraction shooters are hardcore in anyway?

What does the game offer that's challenging or engaging for "hardcore" players? To me they just seem like looter shooters with occasionally losing your shit in BR moments. I understand that there's tension from the possibility of losing that loot getting 3rd partied or whatever, but that doesn't seem unique at all or hardcore.

Am I wrong in thinking the winning strategy is do as little as possible to achieve an objective to minimize risk and move on.
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>>737341693
not defending it, it is dying, but last nights drop was an outlier cause the servers were broken and kicking players all night.
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chuds are NOT my buds
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>>737345917
it is a good game, but the highs and lows are really drastic so if you are even slightly a sore loser you end up hating it.
I've seen posts from people on here that quit after losing there first 3 matches like that's the game's fault somehow.
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>>737346537
>I've seen posts from people on here that quit after losing there first 3 matches like that's the game's fault somehow.
It isn't... but who wants to play a game only to lose? Nobody it's at fault in this situation.
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>>737342105
did he actually return for a third time or did he let his account lapse and someone stole the tag?
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>>737338932

Wow! Congrats for that completely meaningless benchmark!
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>>737346537
so it's not an objectively great game
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>>737338932
@Durandal what's your take on the game's situation?
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>>737342929

It's going to stabilize at 0.
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>>737346823
>but who wants to play a game only to lose? Nobody it's at fault in this situation.
there has to be winners and losers in any pvp game.
the problem with marathon is it forces people to confront the fact they might be bad at video games, because the result of being bad is very obvious when you have no gear or money because you keep being punished for stomping around missing every shot.
whereas in any other game you just respawn and pretend you didn't just die a stupid death.

>>737347120
"great" is a pretty broad descriptor, it's objectively well built, runs great, plays great, if it clicks with you then you'll love it (it's why the steam reviews are so high)
but it's divisive, if you view objectively great as everyone has to like it then I guess it's not objectively good, does that make mcdonalds objectively good?
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>>737340564
OHNONONO
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>>737338932
slay the spire got blown tf out
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>>737340559
>>737340564
The Mandalore review will save the game. Trust the plan.
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>>737346137
nta but they are not an inherently hardcore genre
marathon is hardcore because bungie is retarded and wants to alienate all their customers
in ark raiders losing shit means nothing and progression is chill
tarkov has insurance, gear difference is not monumental, plenty of gear to loot and very big maps that allow people to become loot goblins and get away with shit
marathon is unique because the maps are tiny, you WILL NEVER escape a geared player that wants you dead. In fact rushing spawn points is the meta.
it also has very grindy story unlockable factions with absurdly difficult missions at times for solo players(shit like kill 7 human players in a single map that has 11 max players comes to mind), gear difference is monumental you simply cannot kill a gold shield if you are a newb unless he goes afk, general hostility in design against solo players, etc.
the new cyno map is nightmare fuel for solo players that now only exists as a loot pinata for the top players to keep farming overpowered gear to continue the stomping cycle.
each week the bottom players leave and get replaced by the next in line bottom feeders, now all that's left is the hardcore sweats and the cheaters, the game doesn't have a skill padding of players anymore. it's just one giant gatekeeping stomping simulator
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>>737338932
>normalfags are now participating in the steamcharts posting
I thought people told me 4channel didn't export culture anymore, why are normalfags copying threads here again?
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>>737347640
Sounds like bungie got what they wanted in the end: a truly watchable game
Hope it was worth it... oh wait
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>>737347640
is hunt showdown hardcore?
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>>737341420
Why’d he do it bros
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>>737348230
never played it but I heard it's similar to tarkov
seemingly hardcore on the surface but it's got systems that help you easily stay afloat and in-game interactions that allow undergeared people to get an upper hand against geared or teams
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>>737347640
>kill 7 human players in a single map
Lol? Does that have to be done in a single session? If so, that's not "hardcore" or some bullshit, it's straight up self-sabotage at that point.
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>>737348520
Single-run yes. It's only feasible in trios where your teammates' kills count towards the quest.
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>>737345579
Bungie has done so many shitty things over the years. Looks like you may soon be getting the justice you want.
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>>737344901
Just a forced meme
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>>737338932
I did this :)
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>>737338932
>any attention is good attention!
retard mindset but unironically
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>>737338932
>one of the worst games released in the last couple years flopped
Is there a better feeling?
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>Destiny poopdick makes Marathon thread every day
>every thread hits 500 replies
>keeps bumping them all day
>gives free advertising to the game he hates

Poopdicks are at least 82 IQ.
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>>737350374
yeah I'm sure all that free advertising is helping!
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>>737350374
>number of players only decreased every day
lmao
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>>737350497
Why do you make 12 threads every day about an extraction shooter
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>>737344109
nah, these are good numbers for a extraction shooter game, even though the Arc raiders have dropped quite a bit over the last month
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>>737350985
>ARC Raiders reportedly cost approximately $75 million to develop and market
>Based on recent reports, Bungie's Marathon is reported to have a development and marketing budget exceeding $200 million, with many sources suggesting it is over $250 million.
LOL
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the game is doing well, chuds
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>>737347640
>gear difference is monumental you simply cannot kill a gold shield if you are a newb unless he goes afk,
how is this "hardcore"? this is the exact opposite of hardcore in the sense that player skill means nothing and completely offset by gear. Does everyone just mean hardcore as in you have to be dug in to enjoy it? and by enjoy I guess I just mean stomp noobs which is by no means hardcore or requires any skillful effort when the gear is doing the work.

Can noobs get lucky with gear and then be "hardcore"?

and I'm not trying to come off hostile to you or the other anon, I just don't buy this whole niche hardcore genre excuse that's getting thrown around.
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>>737351729
You forgot
>Sony spent $3.6BILLION (3.600.000.000) united states of american dollars for bungie to make marathon
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DILATION WILL MAKE ME GOACK
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>>737346137
>Am I wrong in thinking the winning strategy is do as little as possible to achieve an objective to minimize risk and move on.
This is the actual, game-theory optimal way to play as a carebear. Match start. Get off spawn ASAP. Hide for 5 minutes. Rush exfil. Sell the incidental loot you find and reward commendations. Ratchet up your gear until you've got kit enough to tank a bit from other players, and only then attempt contracts. You can run 5 of these matches in the time a klepto crew runs one, and probably dies anyway.
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>>737338950
KEKAROO fpbp
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>>737352406
is there any reason not to do this? other than it's boring
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>>737351898
It's extremely frustrating that there's no practical gear equalizer. It totally nukes any advantage from map knowledge, ambush positioning, anything. It's why every webm of this game is just a chaotic 3v3 skirmish. There's also no hit flinch so dudes caught out can just run away.
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>>737352673
You can't indulge your gambling compulsion, which is really the whole point of looter shooters
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It makes sense. The online engagement for Marathon is pretty high because of how niche it is. It’s a lot like Souls in the early days.
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>>737352691
You’d be surprised in engagements how quick you can take down someone with heavier shoes than you. The point is to outflank them and/or get the drop on them, not to get into direct firefights.
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>>737346137
The counter to this point is the “what if” of the game elements.
>let’s go here and get out
>ok
>wait, I just heard X going off
>someone’s doing X?
>we can grab that
>shh, I hear a team
>this team was loaded
>forget plan a, we’re stacked now we can push b
>everyone dies

That’s how matches actually play out. You get tricked into greed, curiosity and variance.
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Concord 4 is gonna be it guys, I just feel it. After all the gun cant jam 4 times in a row
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>>737346137
Marathon is probably the most “hardcore” game I’ve ever played, outside of just ridiculous things like shmups or rhythm games.

I’m actually shocked Bungie released this.
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>>737352980
Are you sure about that? >>737353042
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>>737338950
kek
Chuds won
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>>737352992
>Marathon is probably the most “hardcore” game I’ve ever played
>I’m actually shocked Bungie released this.
Can you explain at all how?

>outside of just ridiculous things like shmups or rhythm games.
I'm working on my Futari black label 1cc now, so when people say hardcore and niche, I don't think they really know what those words mean
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>>737352821
>The point is to outflank them and/or get the drop on them, not to get into direct firefights.
Only works with a premade trio who knows how to approach silently instead of stomping around like fat fucks
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So this is gonna be Concord 4 >>737353161
and this is Concord 5 >>737353042
Do we have any more Concords coming out?
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>>737353184
>I don't think they really know what those words mean
It kinda lost its meaning by repeatedly being misused, similar to the word viral.
I've read a news article unironically calling Highguard a "viral hero shooter."
People would also make you believe games like CIV or Flight Simulator are niche.
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The problem is really fucking simple.

Everything you do, even the extraction itself, makes fucking noise so it alerts everyone on the small ass maps to your location for PvP.
So the best solution? Kill everyone at the start so you can better loot and extract later.

Because of this Marathon has become a battle royale game but shittier.
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>>737353184
>can u explain how

You have to experience it. You get to Outpost, the third map, and the stress is off the charts.
You have PvE bots that are a genuine thread, environmental hazards, the fear of loot loss, threat of multiple and constant PvP engaments. The mind and body are simple, and they trick you into these fight or flight responses from what you’re doing in game.

And that’s just the third map. Then you get to the fourth map and it’s 6x more difficult.

It’s not difficult in terms of dexterity, it’s oppression. Marathon is the most oppressive game I’ve ever played.
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>>737353503
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEugYe4JeHQ
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>>737338932
>>737338950
I'm not gonna lie, Steamdbwatching Maratroon Numbers IS more fun than playing the game itself.
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everyone who is late to the wipe probably doesnt want to play with people who have leveled up incredibly fast. How come no one sees that? This game also experienced and is experiencing massive paid for hate from other companies worried it would/will siphon away their player base, maybe it's just me but prior to release I saw all sorts of fringe content pages pushing doubt about the game, also, the streamers, some streamers shit on the game and now brainrotted incels are bullying their sycophant friends into uninstallimg. It's just business and sad, because this game is objectively great overall.

TLDR; Skill Issue
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>>737353853
skill issue on bungie's part yes
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>>737342929
i genuinely thought it would stay at around 25k, it looked stable for 2 weeks, what happened?
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>>737338932
lol
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>>737353990
people realizing how shit the game is daily
and just wait when they find out their entire account is getting deleted when the season ends
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>>737343830
>flops so prevalent and consistent that people can make entire livelihoods around them
KEK, but he also talks about other flops
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>>737341526
Let's see StS2 review score
>>737352691
>Meanwhile 2 claymores can fuck an entire team up
Git gud
Git gud
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>>737351898
hardcore as in: you have to nolife the game to not be left behind or else it becomes unplayable
lol have fun and wait for the next reset
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>>737344109
this shit is less hardcore and niche than tarkov or hunt showdown
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>>737353990
It is a shit game. On top of that, the extraction shooter gameplay heavily favors people that invest a lot of time into it over people that play casually. Eventually the poopsockers shit down on the casuals and newcomers so hard they cannibalize the playerbase until there is no one left in meaningful amounts other than themselves.
Tarkov somewhat alleviates the poopsocker issue by making some maps much more lucrative to play, or simply having zones in a map have better loot.
As far as I know, there is also zero skill based matchmaking in tarkov, which in an odd way keeps the game unpredictable. You could load into a map where every player does everything possible to quietly loot scraps and avoid other players, you could have a map where everyone is gunning for kills.
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>>737353990
mid-season patch was meh, matchmaking taking longer and you can only watch the screen while matchmaking making people quit
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under 5k today y/n
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>>737354075
>knowing who that is
kek you get your opinions from a youtuber
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>>737354175
yesterday was 5.5k~ so probably not
maybe next week we can have a celebratory blast for 4k
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>>737353990
It's inevitably dying
some thresholds take longer but it's going down sooner or later
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>>737354142
>Tarkov somewhat alleviates the poopsocker issue by making some maps much more lucrative to play, or simply having zones in a map have better loot.
No, it's because in Tarkov you can rat and pick up the scraps, or if you're lucky you spawn closest to a high value spawn and can grab it and disappear before anyone arrives.
This game you can't hide from others and that means conflict is inevitable. You can't just dick around until the big boys are gone; every map is specifically designed to cause fights.
>As far as I know, there is also zero skill based matchmaking in tarkov, which in an odd way keeps the game unpredictable.
There isn't in marathon either. There's 3 player pools, <level 10 <level 50 >level 50.
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>>737344109
20k is incredibly good for an indie
not for a 3.6B studio
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>>737354352
how many japanese salarymen are taking a trip to the ACK forest after this one
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>>737354349
Sounds like it actually solves a big issue of extractìion shooters then, you actually sold me on this game
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>>737354113
MIDA contracts are always so fucking kino
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>>737343597
>y'all
>folks
>content
>thing written by a woman
>thing written by an indian
>thing written by a tranny
>the author uses "she/her" for objects/collectives, e.g. "the user drags her mouse"
Is a list of red flags that has never failed me, personally.
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>>737354413
If you're solo you're not going to have as good of a time.
There's been anons in these threads who are 100+ hours solo and enjoy it, but it's a different beast than trios where everyone is sprinting at the first party to make a sound.

Solo lobbies is a lot of people picking assassins and hitting their cloak thinking you can't hear that shit from 50 meters away and hoping you walk into their ambush.
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>>737354395
0 considering sony has been taken over by the west
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>>737338932
Tortanicbros... we're so back!
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>same images every thread
>same posts every thread
>no bans
>across multiple topics

Good luck trying to discuss any game on this website when admins are handing out passes to Indian companies running LLMs on forums for marketing optics.
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>>737354349
>This game you can't hide from others and that means conflict is inevitable.
thats only true for cryo, 99% of my games is killing someone that made more noise than me, I basically never get caught out myself.
I think a lot of people have no idea how far the noise they make travels, I have to regularly tell people to stop sprinting when I queue with randoms.
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reminder that microsoft paid $7 billion for bethesda, while sony paid $3.7 billion for bungie
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>>737353853
COPE WILL MAKE ME GOD
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>>737353503
Yes, sony has ANOTHER one
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>>737354785
>I have to regularly tell people to stop sprinting when I queue with randoms.
>Game is called Marathon
>Tell people not to run
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>>737354798
Bethesda still have enough sway to push out one saarfield tier slopper that sells well. The continuous skyrim re-re-re-re-re-releases probably also generate good revenue
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>>737354798
8 billion bux for the whole of Bethesda, which is BGS, idSoft, Arkane, MachineGames, and Zenimax Online Studios
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Me as an original Halo fan along with the Destiny community are currently savouring the sweet nectar of Bunige's downfall. The incoming sub 5K player count will be a delight to witness
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>>737354395
>sony
>japanese
it's all californian trannies now
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>>737354701
can you pay your bills with kindly worded emails?
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>>737353990
All three maratrannies are acking themselves in real life
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>>737354850
runnings fine, sprinting doubles the noise distance of footsteps, scrubs dont know this and die.
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>>737354634
Assassin is complete shit for solo lmao, you can hear the cloaking 20 meters away and smoke makes you an actual target.
Assassin is a team fighter meant to smoke rooms and spaces fpr teammates to use thermals and use the invisibility to corner peek or get a better angle on the enemy.
Triage or Vandal are possibly the best solo shells because they can either constant self heal, EMP bots and reboot the shields out of commanders or gain vertical mobility and powerslide out of enemy fire
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>>737354701
>what can we as watchers do?
>tweet about the game?

buy the game you retarded troon
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>>737354785
>thats only true for cryo, 99% of my games is killing someone that made more noise than me
That's just because the average player is extremely bad and it's easily the #1 reason why playercounts tanking.
I can count the amount of times I had someone ambush me on a single hand because there's sound traps everywhere and you can clearly see people moving in the distance + thermals grew on trees until the last patch.
they're still common as fuck in pinwheel and keyrooms though
>>737354850
You can run, you just need to be better at aiming than the other guy or know what you're running into.
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>>737354798
Bethesda hasn't made anything good ever
Marathon is a great game, so it looks like Sony got the better deal
>>737354949
>Flop studio, flop studio, flop studio, flop studio, flop studio
Damn you are right, Zenimax is so goated, gotta uninstall Marathon and play Redfall and Wolfenstein Youngblood
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>>737355146
I'm fully convinced this games failure is due to shitters not having guidance on why they were shit and a pathway to improve.
they lose 10 matches in a row and decide the game's not for them, rather than adjusting anything about the way they play.
im gonna be sad when it shuts down because theres nothing more fun than ambushing unaware people to get their stuff.
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>>737354949
>BGS, idSoft, Arkane, MachineGames, and Zenimax Online Studios
None of those studios made anything successful since 2015 except Doom Eternal, and while I wish Prey 2017 got the recognition it deserves, everything else they did was deserving to flop.
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>>737338932
>currently at 6k players
Absolute kekaroooo
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>>737354798
Bethesda is at least working on Fallout 5 and TES 6
Bungie only started working on Destiny 3 because of Marathon's failure and they can't even make a Halo
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>>737354785
It's hilarious
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>>737355292
NOOOO
CALLING ALL DADS OF MARATHON™
OPEN UP THE GAME AND LEAVE IT ON THE MENU TO OWN THE CHUDS
REPEAT
OPEN UP THE GAME
THIS IS NOT A DRILL
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>>737350985
in 5 months time marathon will be at 10k.
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>>737355249
I wouldn't worry too much about it.
It'l inevitably go free to play which means there will be an unending amount of shitters to slime.
I expect season 2 to panic add MMR which will probably kill it for all but railgun squads
>>737355364
>using a copperhead
Based.
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The drop will stop before hitting 5k.
I believe in our passionate Marathon players
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Why have there been Marathon threads for an entire month
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>>737355596
#1 game on steamdb
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>>737354395
Probably none, but bungie devs are gonna ack themselves when shit starts hitting the fan and those japanese salarymen won't put up with the bullshit anymore.
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>>737355472
It's actually really good after the buff, and the Bully is less powerful at range in a way that I noticed yesterday as Rook and paid the price trying to snipe an exfil
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>>737355540
Do you berribe in using wall hacks and trainers too? You’d better.
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>>737355540
the actual bottom is in one and a half hour
i hope you're a betting man
my money is on 4k
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>>737355056
this isn't a boomer fb group
you don' have to post tiny screenshots of downscaled images
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>>737355664
Bully is still the best SMG, the nerfs didn't really do a whole lot as long as you're still within the recommended 40m.
Copperhead needs a bit more range imo, and the brrt will forever be useless bar the DRRVISH which slaps on destroyer with his ult.
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it's crazy to me that they didn't allow solos to play cryo. beyond retarded to piss off +30% of the player base.
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>>737338932
>STOP KILLING GAMES
>literally obsessed and praying for games to die

Hypocrite much /v/tards?
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>>737355789
If Marathon was an MMO, players would praise them for that decision.
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>>737338932
I used to do this everyday for Suicide Squad just to see how bad the numbers had gotten, it's fun. You can probably gameify it and bet money on it.
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>>737355789
marathon was never intended to be a solo game
every non squad mode is an after thought
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>>737355808
>fag game for troons made by troons for gays eats shit
Absolutely nothing of worth was lost.
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Wha is happening on this website >>737355880 this post isn’t real it’s AI
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>>737355914
You wish faggot.
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SUB 5K BROS???
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>>737355808
Anything related to trannies dying is worth celebrating
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>>737355941
There ain’t a single tranny in this game tho you obsessed little cretin
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>>737355789
>solo cryo
That sounds like a nightmare.
>map designed with the explicit goal of separating all teams at the start
>now you have 3 people in each starting area battling to the death for the right to exit and battle the next areas victor to the death
>way easier to grief the lobby by snatching security tags and batteries and peace-ing out
>every room having dozens of AI means the first person to aggro enemies instantly dies
>no one can fight the compiler because there's no way you can hit all the terminals while hes beaming you or orbs are flying at you
if this one didn't need you to loot a vault first to get a DNA sequencer it'd actually make for some kino moments though,
>vaults won't be opened because the aforementioned fuckery
>even more people loading in with absolute dogshit and grey shields to loot lockers and extract
It sounds interesting but they'd have to rework it a ton; I think it'd be wiser to make the next marathon area with solos/duos in mind.
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>>737356016
>any criticism is obsession
way to out yourself as a tranny
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Bungie might be run by complete retards desu.
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>>737356208
>censorship le good as long as i'm censoring things i don't like
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>>737356235
that's nothing new, look at >>737356208
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>>737356208
Wow a random icon from 3 years ago. Don’t tell this guy about pride parades.
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>>737356243
I don't want trannies censored
I want them gone
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>>737344132
I was disappointed with this video. He had some decent things to say but the vid's length is dragged the fuck out by unedited loooong clips from other streamers just to repeat the exact same example. Like nigga we fucking get it.
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>>737356269
>3 years ago
You can still buy it, go ahead tranny, get it before they get shut down
https://bungiestore.com/products/bungie-s-pride-collectible-pin-2-0/BGA22028100
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>>737353042
Fairgame$ will do worse and shutdown before Marathon. I can't believe Jade managed to get funding for that and then bailed before release.
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>entire threads for a whole two months by some /vg/ tripfag who spends his entire waking moments trying to shit on Bungie

I hate this website. Why these faggots don’t go to ResetEra and stay there is beyond me.
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>>737356457
>STOP MAKING FUN OF THE MASSIVE FAILURE IN MY SAFE SPACE
kek enjoy having it rubbed on your face for months
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>>737356457
>Why these faggots don’t go to ResetEra and stay there is beyond me.
Because they can post on multiple websites at once, silly.
Why the jannies allow it is another altogether.
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>>737356457
this is going to surprise you, but it hasn't even been a full two months yet, kinda shocking i know since it's doing so poorly
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>>737356358
It’s safe to say your obsession runs deep
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>>737356457
Nice projection shillfaggot but the only reason the humiliation ritual has dragged on for so long is because you can't help trying desperately to keep this game relevant. This game wouldn't get half as much "discussion" if you didn't make hearing about it completely insufferable.
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>>737356575
This guy is on marathon watch 24/7. You better take his words seriously.
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why is there a 4 hour maintenance to deploy a tiny patch

is this the world leading live service expertise sony paid 3.6b for?
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>>737356657
You faggots can’t stop making threads about it. No spine or balls on this man, you’re basically a tranny.
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>>737356675
I mean, he's not wrong though.
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>>737356713
...yes.
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>>737345579
>>737338932
I feel this, bro. Nothing that bad happened to me, but I played D1 for its entire lifespan. It was so good in the beginning, then it just kept getting worse and worse. Then D2 launched and D2 was basically the worst version of D1, and it was so bad that they slowly started selling D1 back to players, including undoing all of the things they removed back in D1. They even made it so that half of D2 was just D1. Absolute insanity, and I fell for it.

Never again. Bungie must go bankrupt. Take Sony with them for all I care. How the FUCK did anyone think Bungie was worth $4 BILLION dollars?
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>>737356713
They're do a lot of bug fixing, and they have to be thorough.
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It's awesome that we have metrics like this to track the rise of mental illness
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we did it funnyjunk
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>>737356885
it was lower yesterday, havent done shit yet
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>>737338932
it's not even in top 100 most played games on steam anymore
https://store.steampowered.com/charts/mostplayed
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>>737356863
In four years the board is going to be populated with 70 or so mentally ill people looking at graphs of games.

There were even threads about that Mouse PI games steam charts today. Mouse PI, some AA fps.

All the negative posts on Bungie are just bots. They’re not real. They don’t even talk about Destiny.
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>>737357002
hey shut the fuck up, 154 ain't bad
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>>737357071
You need summa this, pally.
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NO NEW LOW

THE GAME HAS STABILIZED
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>>737357123
brotatoes... spuds keep winning
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doctor, is the patient stable?
doctor:
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5651 is the old lowest low, its close
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I'm having a blast and I don't care what any of you chuds say.
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how blast havers look when they're having a blast
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>>737357235
>>737357189
Marathon won

Its only up and up from here
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>only 250 posts in 8 hours
>every single post is just coping that the game is dead despite it not

This is awesome. Every time a game that /v/ wants to flop actually succeeds, they always desperately try to forget about it or pretend it wasn't important lmao
2 more weeks then the layoffs start for sure!!!
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>>737357458
new lowest low
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>>737357505
Both of these games are shit fuck off and kill yourself
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>>737357602
Why does /v/ always lose? :((((
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>>737339161
tranime TRVTH NVKE
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>>737338932
>>737338950
>>737338954
>>737339161
>>737339370
>>737339876
>>737340564
>>737341420

!!![GAY NEWS]!!!!
I'm still gaytarded, and I'm still a frogposteur. Furthermore I had a dream the other night where I was fucking my own mother. I'm a 36 year old man and I've never had such a dream before. Is it a sign of degeneration, or progress, or just nothing? Probably the latter, but I have no idea. Thanks for reading my frog blog.
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>>737356457
That's just how it works on this site. Fire emblem threads here have to deal with some fag who has dedicated literally every waking hour of his life for the last fifteen (15) years to ruining every conversation he sees about it.
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>>737357505
Kill yourself, Dave.
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>>737341897
I bet he looks like this lol
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>>737338932
KEKMAO they have a feature like this?
Now THIS is way more interesting data that gives us insight into the mind of a schizo than steamie hut junior numbers.
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>>737341897
These people have to be bots man. Or at least get paid to do this shit 24/7.
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>thread hits 8 hours
>suddenly all the anti-marathon posting stops

I'M NOOOOOOTICING
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>>737357189
>sub-20k
it's fucking over
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It's going down for maintenance in 2 hours
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>>737358373
wont come back up
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>>737358565
I'm so glad people are giving hunt a try for some reason
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>>737355875
then they should have stuck to their guns and not had any solo queues on release. when early play testers told them to add solos, they would've expected solos for all the maps and content.
>>737356132
i don't disagree with any of these points, but the rework wouldn't need to be much at all. reduce the npcs, change the scorch warden to an easier one like the tox. they had plenty to time to figure this out, even after release. instead we got duo experiments, and sponsored kit experiments and other crap balance changes.
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>>737358658
i hadnt played it in a long time since before they re-did all the UI, its been a lot of fun again
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>>737344901
right wing chud from "he will not divide us" breaks into house
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>>737358373
>maintenance again
why? arc raiders, tarkov, hunt, dont' need a maintenance every week for 4 hours to adjust gameplay changes.
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>>737356813
This isn't 2010 anymore, smooth deployment is a thing that exists
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>>737338932
Pragpedos... our response?
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>>737359068
Their backend is probably a mess
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>>737345579
It's incredible how often I read this. "I played a shit load of Destiny 2. I loved it. I want Bungie to die the most heinous death possible for what they did" like around launch day for Marathon there was dozens of people essentially saying "yead I'd rather fund ISIS than give Bungie another dime" they seem like actually awakekend Blizzdrones
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>>737357667
They all kneel to Ditto
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>>737359320
Blizzard never mistreated their players the way Bungie has. You have no idea bro. I can't even explain it, it's difficult to understand. Making someone grind for 100 hours for a gun and then deleting it and deleting the content that they paid for for absolutely no reason whatsoever.
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>>737338932
literally im bleeding making me the victor reddit moment
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>>737338950
>>737339161
Since checking steamdb is more fun than playing marathon, but you're still having fun with tangentially marathon related content, it can be said that marathon was actually a successful game at entertaining the audience and found audiences on both the f2p (steamdb) and paying audiences. This is an unprecedented success for Bungie, only being overshadowed by Concord and Highguard.
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>>737345579
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>>737338950
Isn't this the case for pretty much every game?
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>>737360563
Uh, no? Nobody is looking up player numbers for, say, stardew valley.
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>>737358658
helped that post malone kept talking about the game to his audience which introduced a lot of dude bros that were into cod to give it a try
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CywILj8E8rM
https://youtu.be/NIlvfDWCoa4

and by nature of being a good game it gained over time
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>>737360672
>and by nature of being a good game it gained over time
that's the key, it's keeping it's players
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>>737341670
>>737341897
Imagine unironically shilling for slop like this.
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/0_t5tnXSfu1svHH6quaanw/
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>>737361248
God circlejerktroons are pathetic. They aren't even human
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>>737338950
Rekt
>>
Marathon playercount has dropped 78% since launch
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>>737361445
I quit the game and I'm having a blast
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>>737356336
He has this paranoid mentality of "no it can be taken as an isolated case and not as an absolute truth" for whatever reason
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>>737338932
>Capcom and Pearl Abyss: sales numbers
>Bungie and Ubisoft: anything but sales numbers
I'm noticing.
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>>737361445
i would buy it if it was free
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>>737344132
>17 hours
Holy shit, I'm a high lvl chud but thats a but much
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>>737345817
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>>737344179
CD sales: 5mil
Maratroon sales: 1,2 mil

And CD cost less. In short, you lost.
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>>737338950
KEK
FPBP
/thread
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>>737354395
Its california trannies now, so it'll be the ACK-bridge
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>marathon sold over 1mil copies!!!!!
>confirmed 70% of the marathon players are on steam
>peak players on steam was 88k and has only been going down since
>5k players right now
Hmmmm....
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>4,201 in-game
how low can it go!
>>
I wish the game would have died sooner, I can see it getting a decent resurgence when they eventually go f2p but the longer it takes them to flip that switch the deader it will be.
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>>737362038
maintenance, chud
back to 88k in 4 hours
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>>737339370
do not redeem
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>>737338932
>obsessed with this game's success
What success?
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>>737362118
how does it even have 4k during maintenance
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>>737362118
i guess they started maintenance early because who gives a shit lmao
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>>737345817
He's talking about Bungie, retard-san.
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>>737342946
True, you posting the same shit over and over again (while one of these posts is pointing out an autist who posted the same shit over and over again, meta) really saved the game.
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>>737362279
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>>737353990
It was only "stable" because the released some updates that could barely counteract the bleeding.
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>>737345356
Improve?
Most of them plan to quit on wipe.
This game will fall below 5k concurrent.
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>>737362492
I dont think they realize a wipe is incoming
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>>737362459
I see, thanks
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>>737350374
>free advertising
>nooo stop making fun of my game
lmao, your reverse psychology isn't working, I'm afraid
just like the "free advertising" isn't doing anything for the game
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>>737346137
>As little as possible to achive an objective

There 2 kinds of players.
1: Has all the upgrades, has a loadout, maybe even a static.
No objectives to fullfill, just there to hunt players.
2:The Idiots that tries to catch up on progression, most of them casuals, playing through quickfill.

Whatever you do, you will sound a big ass alarm throughout the map, so the rape squads know exactly where you are.
By the time they arive, you will have filled your bags with a bit of salvage, maybe some rare shit and did the first halve of your contract.
And then you get raped.
You will gift your shit to them, so they can progress easier.
Youre basicly a janny, you bring them loot for free.

Its basicly rape squads vs uberjeets in detroit.
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>>737356457
Yes, every post except yours and every thread about this shitty game is exclusively made by me, THE BOOGEYMAN from the distant shores of /vg/!
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>>737351898
I played for 60 hours, i never got a purple or gold weapon through salvage, only as rank up reward from factions.
Amd because im a shitter, i wont fill in with purple shields just to gift them to rapesquads or sniper campers.

Fuck this game, i wish it goes under and sony issues refunds.
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>>737357159
Being below Brotato is actually really good for a hyper-competitive uber-hardcore colossally-niche title such as Marathon.
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>>737346137
They are misusing the word 'hardcore'

It's like when some Rogue in vanilla wow camps someone 30 levels lower than them in the open world for 2 hours just to make them miserable. They're not actually good at the game. They've put more time in and they're unemployed and enjoy making other people miserable. To them, that's what "hardcore" means.

If you use that definition, extraction shooters are "hardcore".
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>>737362930
>sony issues refunds.
I wouldn't be surprised if they're waiting for the window for that to close so they won't have to. they're consistently losing money on upkeep on that tripe. when would the refund window for an early EOS announcement expire anyway?
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>>737363052
Dunno man.
But the anual Sony rape conference draws near.
There is some investors meeting or some similar shit on the 13th of May.
We will see.

Should have bought Tainted Grail instead of this pile of shit.
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>>737345182
paid hate? where do i collect my check?
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It's over
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>>737338950
KWABOTY
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>>737342929
GEG, it's already dead Jim.
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>>737357123
brotato bros we did it
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>>737338932
That's because you can't access it from either category on the main page
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>>737357123
Flopzarbros...
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Battle Royale mode will save Marathon. Just two more weeks, trust the plan.
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>>737342929
Erm it's supposed to be a niche game CHUD.
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>>737353042
I'm actually curious how this will go, heard it's going to be a free to play extraction shooter
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>>737367995
>extraction shooter
daring
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>>737367995
It, like Marathon here, switched game modes mid-development so you can count on it lacking content, having an incongruous lore, balance issues, and more. It's literally the game that tries to capture the Summer of St. Floyd, with a bunch of mystery meat entitled children looting luxury clothing stores for MUH REPURASHUNS except you're not allowed to play as Kyle because that's traumatizing.
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>>737368548
>CONTRACT: Smoke three heebs [pedos++ rep]
We'll never get this game
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>>737367995
Did you know that marathon was also free for a bit before release? Nobody played it still
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>>737339161
I do this every day
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>>737338950
fpbp /thread
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>>737357505
>every single post is just coping that the game is dead despite it not

Yeah it's not dead, its just dying. Get it right!
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>>737363332
Anon why the fuck wouldn’t you buy tainted grail over this garbage? What’s wrong with you?
I had one look at that game and knew it had SOVL while this was an obvious cashgrab from the start
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Why do people play extraction shooters
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>>737369758
For fun
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>>737346137
They're hardcore in a braindead zoomer normalfag would where the competition is Call of Duty, Battlefield and Rainbow Six Siege. Sit them in front of a Cave game and they instinctively make a run for it.
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>>737338932
>peaked under 20k yesterday
I think it's finally Marathover....
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Why does everyone suddenly decided to make the same type of game at the same time?
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>>737370180
They just felt like it
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>>737339416
>I think Sony will refund all purchases soon.
They won't, keeping a server running when you aren't actively developing it is cheap. For example, for how long it was dead, Anthem was online for 7 years.

The only reason Concord was shut down and refunded was because it did less than $1 million in revenue, Marathon probably has brought in at least $50 million, so while it may not be anywhere near making a profit considering the development cost, Sony isn't interested in giving away more than $50 million when keeping the servers on is far cheaper.
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>>737344109
>IT HAS A HEALTHY 60k PLAYERBASE
>IT'S STABILIZING AT 50k PLAYERS
>40k IS GREAT FOR A NICHE GAME
>WHY WOULD YOU NEED MORE THAN 30k PLAYERS WHEN MAPS ARE LIMITED TO 24 PEOPLE?
>20k IS ACTUALLY INCREDIBLY GOOD
Holy mother of lmao
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>>737370180
Because the industry loves to trendchase. This happened with Doom, Quake, Half-Life, World of Warcraft, Halo, Hearthstone, Trannywatch just to name a few.
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>>737370539
40x 88000 + 30% = 4.500.000 and lets be extremely generous and add another 40%, $6.406.000 (before steam, sony, any other tax cut)
50million? They fucking wish it made even a fraction
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>>737370180
It only takes 1 success to make it all worth it
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>>737341897
While I do think some losers are too invested in this, theres nothing wrong with casually mocking smug game devs/players on occasion when their product fails
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>>737370726
CCU isn't sales and the whisper was 1,2mm sales. Asssuming ASP ex-fees of $25 that's $30mm in revenue just from sales. If Sony were to refund skins, an average spend of $20/buyer puts it over $50mm that Sony needs to return. I don't have a feeling for average cosmetic turnover for a game like this, but $20/player is ezpz for gacha.
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>>737371031
Question: Why would you not play the game you paid for on release? Thats why I added the (already EXTREMELY generous 40%)
Are you one of those people who believe that any day 220k people who bought the game will show up and play it?
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>>737370726
Titles typically do 10x their peak concurrent users, and using peak to be total players makes no sense either way unless you think that nearly all all buyers happened to be playing at that particular time when it peaked.

It sold poorly and will never make a profit with its huge development cost, but it didn't sell badly enough where Sony would be fine refunding everyone like Concord did.
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>>737371104
Question: what's your Steam lib look like? You play all those games, all the time, right?
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>>737343129
>>https://x.com/Patrickwj1994
>>This account doesn’t exist
The Sony ninjas must have found him and silenced him.
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>>737339161
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>>737371182
So you are one of those people. Thought so. Just say it right away so I can stop wasting my time with shills
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Y'all really spend your time looking at steam charts and doomposting instead of playing games. Kinda sad.
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>>737370539
>>737370726
an estimated steam revenue at $40 and 28,505 reviews is $28M on steam. for an approx $200M dev cost that's abysmal
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>>737371323
Post your Steam library rn
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>>737371104
It has 45k reviews on Steam, a title with ~120k sales on Steam (using your CCU + 40% number) wouldn't have such a low sales total and games on Steam universally have a review ratio that is a far cry from 3 sales to 1 review.

While review ratios vary greatly, from the Steam achievement leak they were almost always at least 15:1, usually more than 20:1. Using a recent example with hard numbers, a recent confirmed million seller, Senren Banka, has 35k reviews, which is 28:1. Exactly what it sold on Steam is hard to say, but it is going to be far more then 120k total sales.
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>>737371031
Sony already got around ~$50M in revenue from 2 months. If the game costs $200M to develop they just need to keep it online for 6 more months to break even. Seems pretty good to me.
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>>737371660
>acthually they have 20x the sales!
>can we see those players? where are they?
>...
>2 more weeks until it breaks 220k peak players!!!!!!
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I'm just waiting for him to quote the number of people in the discord as the real player numbers
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>>737371829
Maybe Discord is the real game? Ever think of that??
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>>737371761
it's gonna be heckin epic, like in star wars 9 when all the ships appears for the final battle with the music
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>>737371517
>>737371761
The exact amount aside, Marathon's numbers are abysmal, but its above the very low bar that is needed to instantly shut down the title and refund everyone like Concord which is what was being addressed.

Suicide Squad Kill the Justice League peaked at 13k CCU, and has 1/3rd the amount of reviews that Marathon has, losing hundreds of millions of dollars, but even there it made more sense for the publisher to finished what they advertised and not do anything that would justify refunds. Marathon likewise isn't ever making money, but it also seems unlikely Sony will pull the plug on the servers in the short term, even if all active development is pulled.
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>>737369874
That’s not true at all
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>>737362759
So, the main issue currently is that the gear disparity is too large, and that there's no catch up mechanic or at least safer way for new players to catch up? That seems solvable, but eventually that balance would lead it to a BR with extra steps, leaving the "excellent gunplay" to be the compelling factor to return to the game on regular basis. Would the hardcore players stick around just for that?

>>737369910
I honestly would buy this argument except for that Arc Raiders is currently the premier normie game
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>>737357123
>Lower than the Bazaar
>A paid-only autobattler that changed its monetization 3 times and is mired in controversy
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>>737370180
Stop nooticing
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>>737370180
Everyone was chasing Fortnite numbers when these projects went into the pipeline years back.
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>>737362443
I think Tahnit might be out of date, because I swear I saw a post in another Marathon thread that was a screencap from Xitter or Resetera with a guy saying he was getting matched with people 50 levels higher who were taking him to pound town.
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>>737339161
what happened to the website that tracked and allowed people to vote on what the next concord would be? that shit was hilarious
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>>737362930
>Sony issues refunds
0% chance this happens, m8. Refunds are a really rare thing and you only see them in weird situations like Concord (that got pulled early) or a game being so broken on some platforms that it simply doesn't work (CP2077 on PS4/Xbone). Marathon won't have refunds for the same reason shit like Suicide Squad, Marvel's Avengers, and Anthem didn't do refunds.
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>>737370180
I wish I had it handy, but there's a pic of a tweet from this outspoken black gamedev in Cali (who got chastised for daring to ask 'why don't we put attractive black women in games?' (as opposed to 'diverse' ones that are fat/ugly)) who basically said
>nobody wants to talk about it, but there are tons of studios out here (Cali) who are making basically the same game

It's a combination of trend chasing and weird shit like hearing how another studio is making (game), so your boss says 'Let's make (game) ourselves first, and beat them to market', kinda like what happened with Antz/A Bug's Life back in the day. Stupidity, in other words. And out of touch execs.
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>>737373073
every time i remember girl boss games i think of forspoken and star wars outlaws with how much they flopped. At least horizon zero dawn had graphics going for them cant say that stuff about the others.
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>>737371665
What kind of brainlet math is this? The game isn't making $50m a month because it's not getting any new players. Everyone who wanted Marathon bought it already, and all we're seeing is those purchasers slowly abandoning the game. Even if the game clawed its way to 1.5m sales, that's still barely $40m AFTER you take out things like platform fees, taxes, and whatever else. The projected 'break even' figure for Marathon based on its dev budget was 8-9m sales. It's over.
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>>737373446
Oof this nigga went and got his ass buck broken in record time.
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>>737338950
This 100% this.
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>>737370180
They thought that extraction shooters were going to be the next battle royale.
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>>737370726
You're stupid.
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>>737371104
>Are you one of those people
The arrogance only the smoothest of brains can produce.
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>let's make an extraction shooter, people seem to love them!
What the fuck were they thinking????

we've been playing the same kind of shit for 20 years now.
Same formulaic tiring old bullshit,

You want people to play your fucking game?
MAKE A UNIQUE FRESH AND FUN EXPERIENCE
>b-b-but it's hard
YOU HAVE INFINITE AMOUNTS OF MONEY
YOU COULD BE SCOUTING FOR TALENT
YOU COULD BE MAKING EXPERIMENTS OVER AND OVER
YOU CAN HIRE TALENTED PEOPLE TO THINK AND CODE OF NEW GAMEPLAY MECHANICS

But no, you chose to do the same old shit..

well, FUCK YOU.

I hope you go bankrupt you pathetic worthless morons
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/Ourguy/ Paul bending over Bungie again
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>>737371665
This math is as bad as the guy who thinks CCU + 40% = plausible total sales.

Marathon has probably has brought in $50 million in revenue, but nearly all of that would have been near launch, it isn't bringing in any real revenue at this point as its revenue is from micro transactions and game sales, both of which are quickly drying up. Sony will keep the game online because doing so is cheap and it lets them avoid refunding the revenue it has brought in, not because they are going to be making a significant profit going forward.
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Bungiebros..
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>>737375406
A post launch change to F2P only really makes sense if there is a plausible strategy to make the title more appealing and fix player retention, it really isn't a strategy to reverse the fortunes of a title where player retention and poor word of mouth is the problems plaguing the game. There are titles where the main problem is that no one gave them a try or heard about the title, but this isn't that case.
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>>737375930
>I'm uninstalling Destiny 2 for the first time ever
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>>737375406
>F2P
I know a month is a long time for zoomer attention spans, but does everyone just forget the big playtest Marathon did that was F2P where half the people who tried it on opening day said 'fuck this' and dropped it within 12 hours and never came back?

All F2P would do is speedrun the game going EOS because the cheater problem would become unfixable.
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I honestly had tons of fun with Marathon without owning or ever playing it. Thanks SONY!
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blast status?
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>>737376158
The hallmark of a good character design is when you can recognize them from their silhouette alone
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>>737376437
>>737376158
that's clearly mr satan from dbz
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I think the only people that like this game are retarded old people treating this game like politics like they must blindly support it and anyone that hates it is evil hater chud. Every hobby I am part of is starting to devolve into this. My local sports team's subreddit calls anyone critical of the team a racist Republican. What is going on with people today why is it like this?
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>>737376158
>>737376437
Is that a lizardman?
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>>737377367
>What is going on with people today why is it like this?
Humans are inherently religious and Wokeism has a hierarchy (within colleges and HR culture), dogmatic and heretical principles, and flags and icons. It nefariously plays on peoples' same sense of goodness and justice as conventional religion, but instead of encouraging good human impulses for building community, it perverts these aspects of our personality an realigns them with "preferred races/genders/sexualities".

So in this context, those people have realigned the team to be part of their church. Whatever got them making those accusations was obviously something heretical to the pillars of the Woke church.
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>>737338950
RAMPAGE
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>>737339161
yup
>wake up
>open steam db
>click Maratroon
>less players than yesterday
>laugh
>rinse and repeat
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>>737375406
F2P wouldn't even save this game. You'd have the same exact thing happen where casual will have fun for a few days before getting mulched by the sweats and uninstall without spending a dime. Only dedicated PvE would make this game appealing to casuals.
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Highguardians, we can't let our friends the Marathoneers fall! CHAAAARGE!
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>>737377928
This anon is correct. When you start looking at woke/dei through the lens of 'it's a religion, like Christianity, Islam, etc', it makes a whole lot more sense real fast.
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>>737379514
Real Highguardians are currently channeling their positivity towards Fairgame$
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>>737377367
The projection is heavy in this post
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>>737359320
I never got the popularity of Destiny, I played the first one on playstation because it was on a heavy discount at a time when my PC was out of comission and I was bored, and it was OK, but nothing groundbreaking
then I heard good things about Destiny 2 and thought they must have improved a lot since the first game so it would probably be worth a buy, so I got it on PC and then I beat the main story and started seeing what the end game grind was like and went "meh" and played something else, once again, the game was just "OK" and that's the best I could say for it

Then a few years later I started hearing about the absolute BULLSHIT that was how Bungie was handling live-service, with the most egregious thing being that due to "storage restrictions" they not only made certain STORY CRITICAL DLC's unavailable to access in any way anymore....and then FUCKING DELETED IT FROM THEIR OWN SERVERS.

Even if you ignore how uninspired Marathon is from a design level, I don't get how the fuck can anyone ever trust Bungie again after all the shit they've pulled over the years? Like even if Marathon looked interesting, just knowing that Bungie made it would put me off buying it
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>>737375406
f2p wouldnt work because according to people that bought the game the ingame store sucks
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>>737376158
Bazz??
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>>737376158
Bungie successfully released a game that provided entertainment to millions. Just not to those who actually paid money for their game.
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>>737379975
Destiny got popular for three reasons:
>the Bungie name still had value and it was their next IP after Halo
>Destiny is easy to get into, doesn't make too many demands of the player, and appeals to casuals with PVE
>the graphics and sound design were good and it looked like a AAA product with money behind it

PVE is what casuals want and it's where they go, as is continually demonstrated. Trying to chase PVP leads you to the same grave that all the Fortnite clones (and soon, Marathon) are in.

>Bungie deleted content in D2
This was apparently because of some defect in the Destiny engine, where the install size was getting uncontrollably large and they couldn't mitigate it or something. It wasn't deleted for fun or as some kind of dumb plot to get more MTX/dlc sales. If anything, the change has only lost them money and done amazing reputational damage.
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>>737344901
guy who was apparently a reddit mod (I don't know of which sub) and looked like the exact stereotype you would expect (chudjack face, wearing a trenchcoat, anime t-shirt, jeans and sandals) has a spychotic episode and thinks he's Harry Dresden form the book series "The Dresden Files", he randomly picks a house and psychotically believes there is a little girl in danger in the house.
He argues with the owner (who isn't home) through a ring doorbell, including having full on screaming meltdowns and hurting his leg when trying to kick the door in, then eventually breaks in, and the owner comes home and hits him with a shovel, then the police arrive and arrest the reddit mod

worth looking up the videos, guys like >>737358854 and >>737349346 are most likely retards who relate to that loser and so are trying to try and get people to stop talking about it
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>>737379941
This "no u" low IQ brown reply made no sense in what way am I projecting explain? You won't though
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>>737355379
r/DAD REPORTING IN
IM LOCKED IN AND BLAST READY
LIGHTNING AND BOTTLE SECURED
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>>737379941
Not as heavy as the limpdick faggotry in your post
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>>737380859
Rise of iron won
Siva won
Destiny 1 won
STAR WARS lost
D2 lost
Marathon lost
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>>737380727
Do you genuinely think that the people playing this game are as politically motivated as you obviously are to search for it every day on steamcharts as often as you do?

Who are you trying to kid here? Do you think normal people do this?
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>>737380931
NTA, but if you're posting on an imageboard like /v/ to begin with you're not a 'normal person.'
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>>737380931
Yes I have literally seen them compare people who don't like the game to Trump supporters you stupid retard.
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>>737380931
>Do you genuinely think

That marathon is fucking gay and you’re a faggot for liking it? Why yes I absolutely do!
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>>737380994
When you think people are playing a game for political reasons while also thinking the only people playing this game are opposing your political team, you are projecting.

You assume other people are doing this because this is what you would do.
This is what projecting is.

>>737380983
Weak copout. Get a glass of water and come back
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Sorry chuds, the player count is a myth.
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>>737380931
Guaranteed you are European or some non American and don't understand how forced politics are in America. This is a perfect example of why I hate the internet. I have to interact with foreign subhumans who have no idea how my culture is like as they lecture me about it with their retarded 3rd world logic. I am genuinely sick of this shit.
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>>737381375
>think
What part of I literally have seen them make connections to Republicans and people who hate the game don't you understand subhuman 3rd worlder? No assumption I have seen the literal words myself. Why is it that you 3rd worlders can only respond with "no u" or "whatabout" like your low IQ is so bad your brains can do nothing else?
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>>737381398
Anyone can clearly tell you're a histrionic retard with nothing actually going on in his life so he obsesses over culture war twitter arguments over video games

If these daily arguments had any effect on anything, your political team would probably win more elections, right?
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>>737381392
>the player count is a myth
Oh fuck, did I just do a shit ton of salvia and imagined all of Marathon?

..does /v/ even exist?
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>>737381720
I was right you are a euro fag. You are beneath me subhuman. Your opinion doesn't matter at all
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>>737381493
You aren't even providing any counters to my argument lmao

You're projecting; you think people playing a video game are doing it for some political motivation while the only reason you're this obsessed over this game is entirely political in nature.
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>>737381885
You can believe anything you want because you're already running away like the defeated pup you are lmao
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>>737381891
>>737381961
see >>737381885
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>>737381392
>the player count is a myth
Marathon player confirmed for mythical creature status; likely nonexistent.
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A AAA live service game going on sale 1 month after releasing is kinda telling how shit it is doing
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>>737382054
Run away like the little loser you are, projecting puppy boy

Maybe tomorrow's thread will win the next election for your team
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>>737382172
The funny thing is I don't think it will do a goddamn thing for the overall numbers. It's like using a slightly bigger bucket to bail water over the side of the ship when the thing is already halfway sunk.
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>>737382363
What it would do for me IF I was contemplating on buying the game was to tell me that the game is doing very badly and that I shouldn't buy it because it will soon go f2p or EOS
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>>737382282
see previous post
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>>737382436
If you're researching a potential game purchase at all, you're already ahead of 90% of the normalfag people who buy games.

The calculus you need to do is a wholly subjective 'Will I get my money's worth from this game? And will it be worth my time?' analysis when looking at all the different factors like 'I might get raped and gaped by sweats or cheaters' and 'It could be fun to play a game as the devs get increasingly desperate and do weird shit, like the Highguard devs did.'

In the end $30/$40 is nothing if you're an adult with disposable income, so your time is probably what you should be worried about losing.
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saars.....
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>>737382680
Oh Danny Boy, the pipes, the pipes are calling..
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>>737382597
i make over $100k a year and i feel repulsed at the idea of even spending $15 on trash.
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>>737380210
kek its they
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>>737380931
>Do you genuinely think that the people playing this game are as politically motivated as you obviously are to search for it every day on steamcharts as often as you do?
Yes?
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>>737382597
The price is a good indicator on how confident the company behind the game is about selling their product. Having a sale on the game this early on is really bad optics because it's pretty much telling that the player count that your game relies on is on an unsustainable nosedive.
I don't really know what the plan is for Bungie, the game seems like it's going to die pretty soon or be put on life support at the very least
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peaking at sub 20k at this point
it's been what? month and a half?
i gave it 2-3 months before release, maybe it's actually 4-5 months before news of layoffs
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>>737382680
>20% off
come on now
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>>737375373
>this is what they were thinking
>what were they thinking???
anon...
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>>737377367
I blame reddit. The way leftists arguing against anyone that disagrees with them. The same shaming and insult tactics they use for all topics now. You hate Depeche Mode? You are a MAGA racist. They have attached being critical of anything to being a right winger. That shit should be studied.
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>>737382756
I make over $200k a year and I have no problem getting weird indie/A/AA games if I think I'll get a decent amount of play time relative to the cost.

But in Marathon's case, I just don't like PVP, so I'm not buying it.

>>737382815
Yeah, I agree that a sale this early after launch is not a good sign. The optics don't matter that much though, because a normal person will not even think about things beyond 'product is cheaper, I like this' instead of 'huh, why is this on sale on its own?'

>I don't really know what the plan is for Bungie
Nobody does. The first chance any of us will get a hint is Sony's next financial call in May.
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>>737339161
>If flopped
It is a massive flop, just want to see how close we are to layoffs
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>>737382952
I make nothing because I got in early with bitcoin and retired at 30 and I play nothing but free games mostly castlevania knockoffs
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>>737338950
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH SNAP!
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>>737383109
I envy you, m8. I've probably got another ten years of this rat race bullshit before I can retire. Assuming the economy doesn't completely collapse before then.
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>>737383362
Life is boring when you have everything you need . I feel like I am just waiting to die
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>>737383581
Try getting into a creative hobby. Writing, drawing, 3D modeling/animation, or even indie game dev (which can be all of those things). You've got comfort, but what you seem to be missing is fulfillment. (Look up a Japanese concept called 'ikigai.')
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>>737383581
Maybe you should gamble. It makes everyone happy
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>Maybe you should gamble. It makes everyone happy
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>>737383690
>>737383720
I have hobbies but with no struggleyou slowly realize you have no purpose and are just going through the motions till you die. Not even hookers do anything anymore
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>>737383915
Hmm maybe thats why people make family's so they can have a purpose of raising and caring for a child. Not sure if you tried that but maybe putting your ambitions to someone significant can spark some joy and purpose in life but I wouldnt know
The only reason I say this is because my mom loves me and wants me to succeed in life before she dies
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This was supposed to replace Tarkov LMAO
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>>737384176
It was supposed to revolutionize the extraction shooter market but uh absolutely failed to mark anything down in the history books
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>>737384380
I don't play extractionslop, but what about Marathon was revolutionary, exactly? The art, I guess? Even Highguard had those silly destructible walls, but I can't think of any kind of unique FPS feature or mechanic Marathon brings to the table.
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>>737384646
Its probably what all of the shills been saying about it where its "hardcore" because you get nothing if you dont extract and you lose everything you brought with you. Other argument is the "good" gunplay that bungie has. If nothing else its probably the "watchable" part of it where it encourages streamers to play and get epic clips for twitch but making their game "watchable" makes the gameplay actually boring
Here's a D2 clip of watchable content for example
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>>737384849
But neither of those are new, right? Tarkov and Arc already do the 'lose everything on death' thing and they're extraction games, and the guns and gunplay are the usual pistol/shotty/smg/rifle/sniper type shit with some character abilities?

I guess combining 'Bungie gunplay' and 'extraction mode' is technically new, but the parts themselves just seem like the same old shit that's been in the market for years.
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>>737384962
I was told that in marathon and tarkov there was some kinda compensation you get when you die but who knows I could've been lied to because I was in a marathon shill thread when I saw these points
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>>737385110
>marathon and tarkov
Forgive the confusion. Arc raiders* and tarkov
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>>737382680
I wouldn't play this tripe for free.
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>>737385173
>>737385110
I heard you can make quest progress in both games and then die (you finish the quest still, unless the quest is explicitly 'extract at the end'), and I think both games have a 'you can keep ONE item if you die' thing, but otherwise I think you just get some kind of player experience gain and that's it when you die, with everything else being lost. Every item, anyway.

And I guess all of that XP or levels or whatever goes away whenever the 'big reset' event happens.
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>>737348230
Not really
Dying is only somewhat inconvenient since you can lose good perks and the guns you brought in but a usable kit is quite cheap and free hunters are semi-viable starting points
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so how do we meme marathon into a success?
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Watchable
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>>737386308
I think I saw the same expression on the face of a barista at Starbucks when he was dealing with one of those 'I have ten customizations for my coffee. Number one..' type people.
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So will this game be sub-10k by the time season 2 starts? Because the trend certainly is heading that way.
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>>737344987
Delete this, it hurt my Marathon sensitivities.
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>>737386749
There was a ticker on Flopathon that did some math and said Marathon would be under 1k players by July.

Not 10k.

1k.

We need one of the chart autists to come in and confirm or deny that math.
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>>737386297
Get Danhausen to uncurse it
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>on sale already
I'm guessing 1-2 months until F2P?
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Please buy marathon
Please buy lux
Please buy destiny 2
Please buy STAR WARS
Please buy silver
Please... I need this...
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Trip report at the 20 hour mark: game is still very cumbersome but had a few rounds with randoms on mics who knew wtf they were doing with their classes. Both thiefs, both got downed in a 3v2 encounter with total scrubs but revved them and we won in the end. Got owned by a pretty competent crew after they both went down, again, and I fucked up after killing 2 and thinking the third ran off. In another crew the geniuses ran straight into Station despite loads of gunfire popping off inside, both downed, one disconnected and I spent 15 minutes creeping around and scoping out the opposing crew, who left right before a huge UESC drop. Still managed to rev the one still connected player and instead of fucking straight off out of there, he continues looking through all the trash loot and dies to a huge mob of bots.

There's definitely threshold of "fuck this crew" after which you should just consider it a singles run. Match a few nights ago had my freeshitter crew yelling at me because I wasn't yoloing right into fully kitted blue crew.

>>737385340
It's the same in Marathon. Complete quest, get ganked, gather reward.
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>>737339370
>buy a key for a multiplayer game
>never play it
are you retarded or did you buy the game for 3 cents?



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