Are video games and computers a childish hobby? Or is it a respectable, intellectual and mature investment of entertainment time for any age?
>>737356845who cares
>>737356845Yes, yes
I don’t wanna be alive. Every day I’m staring at a wall in my own mind while my body shambles around on autopilot.
>>737356932Play more video games
>>737356941Video games are for hideo-us lames.
>what adult hobbying looks like
>>737356845Everything fun except alcohol is childish because we live in a hell world where joy is seen as negative.
>>737356845>Are video games and computers a childish hobby?Yes.
>>737356845the average normie hobby is doomscrolling on social media, i couldn't care less about those "people's" opinion
>>737356845I'm not ready for the day we lose him bros...
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>>737357030Adult hobbies are gambling, drinking, or turning off your brain to watch tv.
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>>737356845The most mature is buying beer, a recliner, and a cable subscription. Then only watching1. The Food Network2. Travel Channel3. Sports
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>>737356845Do what makes you happy. But if you want to compare them to other media, they're on the "fun and spectacle" side of the spectrum. The other end would be books and shit.
>>737359646>books and shit.Go into a book shop retard. Literature has not been a superior medium for a long time now. Specialised academic papers are the only works of merit today and they are irrelevant to anyone who isn't specialised in that field, otherwise it's all work by dead men
>>737359785Eh, I'm currently reading works from all those dead men. I might get to some modern stuff one day.The "issue" with videogames (as well as shows and films, to a lesser degree) as a serious art form, and I say that as someone who likes them, is that larger scope, budgets, teams and earnings goals make intent a lot harder to maintain and get across. And with videogames specifically, it's hard to combine gameplay and story in a way that doesn't make both seem weighted down by the presence of the other.
>>737359785It's funny when a woman says her hobby is book reading and then you actually inquire about it and it's all just porn
We live in an age of decay and decline. Culture is dead. Nationality is dead. The future is mountains of garbage and racially ambiguous slave labor for mega corporations.Enjoy whatever the hell you want.
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>>737360047>And with videogames specifically, it's hard to combine gameplay and story in a way that doesn't make both seem weighted down by the presence of the other.Not all art forms have stories - why should video games?
>>737360190wtf does nationality have to do with anything
>>737360315A lot.
>>737360356yeah lotta video games in that pic
Friendly reminder we have written proof that "mature hobbies" do not really exist and the older generations just hate on what the younger ones are doingThere are ancient greek writings from 2000 years ago saying adults shouldn't be reading books because its childish (ironic i know)
>>737360190Nationalism has always been shit and a modern tool to control masses. Government need nationalism so that people would pay taxes and die for them, people are being nationalist because they are tribalistic retards that completely rely on other people achievement to boost their own quality as human beings. Atleast there are some justification for ethnic/ethnicity, but nationalism? Only idiot that are willing to be nationalist
>>737356845Do what you like, because everything is just a waste of time until the day you die
>>737356845Who cares. Not everything has to be an investment or a gay little side hustle, you tasteless yank.
>>737360515I thought it was longer than 2000 years ago.
>>737356845Yes. One day youll realize youll die either way if you waste your time or not, you can be the hardest worker and die in that job, or you can die at home a slob playing videogames, and the world will keep turning and then noone gives a fuck what you did.The only people that should give serious thought to this is people with a family or want a family.
>>737360257A solid argument, actually. Now that I think about it, most games I'd recommend to someone with more traditional artsy interests (given they just don't want to like, shoot aliens and mine gold for an hour) do ride the line between no story and a non-conventionaly told one. Stuff like Journey or Rainworld. Maybe Death Stranding?
>>737360708Not monetary investment you absolute troglodyte. All entertainment time you invest is in the interest of having fun
Gaming a leisure activity that you do for fun. Everyone wants to make it something it's not.
>>737356845They are Entertainment in the same Way that TV and Movies are.Playing games on a more competitive level can be a Hobby or being more analytical of games and even playing older Titles or Obscure releases can be.But if all you do is play Flavor of the month games for fun and sense of belonging then you hobby is as comlex as sang you watch Netflix as a hobby.Basically just like how you can have an actual Movie Buff who watches all kinds of movies and a Normie that only watches Disney/Marvel/Lucas slop.
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>>737356845It really boils down to one’s oeuvre. How do you interact with it and how does it shape you? Do the games you play make you want more out of life? Tekken got me into BJJ and calisthenics. Disco got me into political literature. A lot of my musical taste has a lot to owe to the early 2000s and the proliferation of electronic music across everything, especially games. Every time a new Zelda game is released, I’m basically guaranteed to go camping that year, regardless of playing the newest installment (I haven’t rolled credits on a NEW one since SS on the Wii). It really boils down to who you are talking to about it and how, sometimes it can legitimately be a Rep+, but you just have to be able to recognize when the person you are talking to will even give a shit about it.
>>737361253top kek i really hope this is ironic
>>737356845Depends what games you play
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>>737360585Nation is the same as ethnicity, you dumb shit. We haven't had nationalism for at least 60 years, the only thing that counts is your club membership to a state.
>>737362098Dumb post. In a nation there are diversity - a bunch of people with different ethnicity grouped into one country under the same banner of nation, when it comes to ethnicity its self explanatory: either you're the same as each other or not at allThis is why I said that you nationalists are idiot
>>737356845actually socially it is about as childish as firearms
>>737362610Nation means birth and race you double nigger. Just because some kikes have at some point co-opted the meaning to include other races means fuck all.
>>737360985I think video games are actually really good at conveying a setting (look at something like Morrowind) and characterization (look at any fighting game). But a traditional plot? Not so much. Gameplay can still produce an emotional experience, even an arc of sorts, but this emerges from the underlying design, which is more abstract.As for comparing video games to other art forms, I think architecture is a more apt comparison than movies. The emotional experience of architecture emerges from simply inhabiting a particular space and the way that space is designed.
>>737356845YesEvery hobby is childish and gives women the ick>>737360585>ethnicity is a good qualifier for a country>but nationalism? That's just tribalism and stealing others success>>737362610>In a nation there are diversity - a bunch of people with different ethnicityThere is* diversitywith different ethnicities*>itsit's*>you nationalists are idiotidiots*Which diverse country are you from? Argentina?
>>737356845Technically yes but it's better than mindless tv watching
>>737356845>Are video games and computers a childish hobbyMy dad built a house by himself, like an actual fucking house with plumping and shit that he sold for idk $700k or whatever it was. And I truly mean by himself, that guy did the windows, the roof, used a tractor to reform the earth.Yes, you and me are children. Men don't exist anymore, his generation were the last ones, and we do not compare to them at all.
>>737364919Love rejects like you running defense for boomers of all things.I hope your bootstraps are pulled mate!
>>737356845I couldn't care what other people think of my gaming hobby. I do what I need to do to survive and meet like-minded people to have fun and deal with the crushing mundanity of life. >>737357030Can someone post the webm of all those "adults" breaking their fucking TV after seeing their team lose? Like how do you even do that without seeing how batshit that is? In front of other people no less.
>>737356845That's the standard time-old cope for when young people adopt a new medium or hobby when it becomes available.
>>737356932This. Life is only fun as a man if you have money, and I never had any money.
>>737365091>rejectsNo anon, we play video games. That's the end of the argument, and that's the point of human progress. We gave up self sufficiency for convenience. For previous generations, doing shit on your own was just life. For us, we have no reason to learn how to skin a beast. If society fails we'll die. How is that manly? How is that mature? We are spoiled, but that's the entire point. You can't be a man and evolve technologically at the same time.
>>737364919You can still build your own house. Just because you're a helpless loser doesn't mean everyone else is. You never even changed a tire before have you?
>>737365367Again, you shouldn't project you meaning a pathetic loser onto others.
>>737365367Again, you shouldn't project you being a pathetic loser onto others.
>>737357030>breaking your TV because of sportsWhy are sports fans such niggers?inb4 "what about gamers?" I know why gamers are niggers.
>>737364919so the previous generation was supposedly great men who built housesyet they couldn't secure the next generation did the same? doesn't seem like they were men to me. a man knows how to raise a son.
>>737356845>Are video games and computers a childish hobby? Or is it a respectable, intellectual and mature investment of entertainment time for any age?>childish or matureWhy do such labels matter to you?
>>737360515>There are ancient greek writings from 2000 years ago saying adults shouldn't be reading books because its childishI thought it was because they thought you wouldn't be able to absorb the information and it was a waste of time or something like that?
I tried normalfagging for a while. I even had sex but all I could think about was "I wish I was back home playing tarkov"
>>737360515i am aware of this phenomenon but whenever i see REALLY old accounts of people complaining about reading, i think "what did these fucks even do?". like imagine you're in Greece 2000 years ago but you don't wanna read cause that's immature. what the fuck do you even do for fun?
>>737368349this. it's such a bad insult. children are wonderful.whenever you see it you know it's not serious because the person who uses it as an insult hasn't thought about anything very much.
>>737369316Gay sex
>>737368762That actual quote is something like "The end of the world is coming. Everyone is doing [list of undesirable things] and writing books". The notion is that writing as a talent is rare but widely celebrated, so it attracts all sorts of middling people who churn out worthless literature instead of doing something productive that they'd actually be good at, which leads to a drop in material productivity, which makes society weaker, more susceptible to raids. Kind of like a middling musician deciding to make a videogame. Quote might have been Greek but the location was Egypt or Levant iirc.
>>737365449>You can still build your own house.Idk where you live but I fucking dare you to build your own house and not have the government ream you. You cannot even do your own renovations in some parts of Canada. Gotta have a loisence for that donchaknow. No fucking way California would allow you to do your own electric and still allow you in the homeowner's insurance pool (which is a requirement for selling the house). Nanny state infantilization.
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>>737370407I mean Killdozer was like 25 years ago and that was in a place that's relatively permissive with that kind of thing (Idaho?)
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>>737356845i reject your dichotomy and replace it with my ownvideogames are either fun or not-fun
>>737356845>I enjoy thing>But how do other people perceive the fact if I enjoy thingNever got this, as long as it isn’t something that can put you in prison who cares
>at what age is it wrong to have fun in the way that you like?
>>737365367Ah, the self assurance with which a midwit spews the most inane of garbage, music to my ears. Will never get tired of it. Anyway, stop projecting and kill yourself, tranny.
>>737365792unironically gambling made him do that
