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What's her name, /v/?
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Pokemon
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Borderlands
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>>737371528
pokemon and 99% of nintendo games
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Zelda and Final Fantasy
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Assassins Creed
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>>737371528
elder scrolls
fallout
saints row
killing floor
counter strike
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What was the last time we've seen a good sequel anyway?
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>>737371528
resident evil
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Plants vs Zombies
I will never forgive EA for fucking up the series and killing other Popcap IPs
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>>737371568
this
the gen right after HG and SS made me realize it was gone forever
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>>737371528
Borderlands

>>737371576
Bro...
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i have just realised today the american obsession with "franchises" is so soulless and strange. no thrill when you look at things like that.
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>>737371528
All of them. Nothing really stays good for more than a couple of games, at most.
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>>737371528
dark souls (got tired after the third one)
fallout
Command & Conquer
Tomb Raider
Just Cause
Mass effect
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>>737372029
I feel like Pokemon Legends gets outclassed by SMT5 to such a crazy degree
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>>737372029
really? Black and white made you drop pokemon?

When it was one of the most unique games in the series, had kino music, animated sprites, the best "second edition" in the franchise?

If you said X/Y I'd totally give you that, but anyone that hates gen 5 I automatically assume is a kantobaby that throws a tantrum when they can't immediatley have charizard
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Silent Hill after SH4.
Metal Gear Solid after Ground Zeroes.
Doom after 64.
Duke Nukem after the Zero Hour.
STALKER after CoP.
FEAR after Perseus Mandate.
Killing Floor after the 2009 Steam release.
Resident Evil after RE6.
Final Fantasy after Type 0.
Persona after P5 classic.
Zelda after BotW.
Yakuza after 0.
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>>737371528
All of them. I can not think of a single franchise that hasn't been ruined
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>>737371528
Pokémon.
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>>737371528
at this point literally everything from games to movies and even music.my only hope is for the parasites destroying my hobbies die soon so the real creatives can rebuild
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>>737371528
Assassins Creed after Brotherhood.
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>>737371528
Sonic, it wasn't this bad even during the 2010's.
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>>737372294
can't blame him, bw are so ass it made me skip BW2 initially. the sequels are amazing and absolutely redeem the gen and region but the base games are amongst the worst in the series. no exploration, bunch of hallways, lame copies of the original 151, predictable plot, N is a retarded donut steal self insert, etc
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The tales of franchise
Fire Emblem
Final Fantasy
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>>737371528
Pokemon, Yakuza/RGG, Assassin's Creed, Tomb Raider, Biohazard, ...

You can pick any long running franchise. Anything that goes past "3" instantly starts to go to shit.
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>>737371528
Disgaea
Souls
Yakuza
Monster Hunter
WoW
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>>737372294
>When it was one of the most unique games in the series, had kino music, animated sprites, the best "second edition" in the franchise?
It's also extremely EXTREMELY linear.

>Unova
>Reach NYC
>"Oh but you can't go THIS way, because we need you to go THAT way until you circle around to THIS point where you wanted to go in the first place, sweaty. :) <3"
Canary in the coalmine. Sun/Moon being even MORE linear was the stalewind that killed the canary and series immediately after.
>BUT BLACK/WHITE 2 GAVE HM AND TM REUSE AN--
Yes, those are nice. Doesn't excuse the issues Unova and later entries have.
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>>737371528
Monster Hunter
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Basically all of them, which is natural really. The problem is there aren't many examples of unhappy employees breaking off and making their own good series with what they learned any more.
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Kingdom Hearts
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>>737371528
>added gun nerf: rifles now take 3-4 shots to kill, up from 1-2
>no more quick shot kills
>added faction voting
>no more preset teams that fit the map
>removed faction teams
>chinese navy vs chinese army in Iraq
>neither side has any desert camo
>game still has horrendous bugs
>shoot Dhsk with 40mm grenade?
>crash the server
>launch too many smokes
>crash the server
>hot mic if you get into a car while speaking
>map UI stays on screen if you die with it up
Its so fucking gay. Its all just to sell DLC skins. Its essentially fornite now. Its gotten really bad
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>>737372830
This 100%
I tolerated World but Rise and Wilds just don't feel like MH games to me.
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>>737372287
of course it's also a sort of "holy shit, two cakes!" situation. but smt is also the better cake.
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>>737371528
Fallout. Last one I bought was 4 and I only use it as modshit because it's fucking abhorrent as a Fallout.
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Why does sad *igger make me sad?
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>>737371528
All of them, around the mid to late 2000s
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>>737373917
Why did racing games have to die...
;_;
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>>737371528
I've never felt that attached to any game
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Every non-gacha game that isn't made by Capcom and maybe two other studios.
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>>737373393
I don't know how people didn't see the writing on the wall. Before it even came out, PRfags tried to warn you.
>no jets and scope obviously trimmed
>bad optimisation from day 1
>every map looks like the surface of the moon because of default UE settings
>no intention of ever tackling the >EU problem
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Yakuza is the right answer
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>>737371528
Halo but that was during Halo 4
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>>737371528
Halo
Borderlands
Resistance
Homeworld
Command and Conquer
Resident Evil
Fallout
Elder Scrolls
Dawn of War
Call of Duty
Battlefield
Dino Crisis
And probably a lot more.
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>>737374021
Better to have loved and lost than to never have loved at all
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>>737371890
>>737372323
>>737371890
>Resident Evil is dea-
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>>737371528
Saw it on Reddit
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same threads on rerun
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>>737374104
I tolerated the voting and gun nerfs.

Fighting in blue camo as the chinese navy in a desert against russians is where I draw the line. I used to play every weekend but this is unplayable. Half the factions arent balanced for half the maps.
>imf in mutaha
>the trench crate buildables block entire doors and completely lock up the tight iraqi roads and compounds
>can spam them for cheaper than hescos
My immersion is ruined
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>>737374434
I'd rather have the franchise die than continue getting bastardize by gay shit like this and the remakes
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>>737371890
I feel like the first half of 9 was the best re game we've had in a long time but yeah the series has been floundering for like 20 years at this point
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>>737371528
tigger
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>>737371528
Halo, but I've felt like that since 2014.
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>>737371528
Real life.
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any video game related examples of this?
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>>737371528
Elder Scrolls, Fallout, Mass Effect
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>>737375109
resident evil
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>>737375109
Mario and Metroid games
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>>737375109
Jolly Wanker after he started talking
Micky D after he started doing 1+ hour videos only
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>>737375109
Metroid, FromSoft games, and Fallout
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>>737371528
Fighting games
Monster Hunter
MMOs
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>>737371528
Yakuza and it was so pointless too. They didn't have to do what they did in 6. 6 ruined any semblance of the series ever being good, and Ichiban is just dancing on the corpse doing its own thing.
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final fantasy when xii came out
monster hunter. i learned to like the changes world and rise did but wilds was finally the nail in the coffin and i went back to older titles
pokemon, obviously
command and conquer with the expansion for 3 and finally the dumpster fire that was 4
wh40k dawn of war with DoW2
doom
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>>737375109
Not a game, but YMS
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>>737371528
Yakuza series.
The gameplay is still fun but the writing is awful.
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Every single goddamn movie, videogame, television, book and comic franchise in existence.
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>>737372287
This applies to every single pokemon compared to its corresponding smt equivalent.
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>>737375109
This guy when he took down his parody of Anita Sarkeesian and started pandering to his twatter
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>>737374183
So all of them
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>>737375109
No but,
>tfw you realize that you're in a parasocial relationship and that they are never going to ever care about you.

I still feel pathetic even though in retrospect nothing really happened other than losing 5 bucks every month.
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>>737371528
Assassin's Creed.
Final Fantasy.
Pokémon.
TLoZ.
Yakuza.
Post-Xilllia 2 Tales Of.
I'm too tired to keep thinking about depressing shit.
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Sonic is the game series I grew up loving over all else, but I consider Generations the informal end of the franchise. Yes, the 2000s games were mostly shit, but at least they were interesting, fun, appealing shit, which none of the 2010s or 2020s titles can even remotely attest to being. Lost World and Forces were sub-mediocre. Frontiers is one of the most embarassingly poor pieces of entertainment media I've ever blown my life on. The one glimmer of hope, Mania, turned out to be nothing but a sub-par "best of" game crippled by poor creativity and a critical lack of design focus. I couldn't even muster up the energy to try Superstars because it just looked so generic.

It's been clear for the last 15 years or so that the main element of the series is no longer the games, but the memes, movies, and random branded merchandise. Those things keep the character popular and relevant, but they represent the series' stuffed corpse:forever present and available, but with none of the life that made it good in the first place.

Fuck Aaron Webber, fuck Twitter, fuck Hollywood, and lastly and most importantly, nuke Israel.
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>>737371528
Old School Runescape
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>>737377526
year of the spoon, anon.
you'll be missing out
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>>737372343
this
sad, really
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>>737371528
destiny
taken kino was great rise of iron was good
d2 vanilla was ok i guess and then it just kept getting worse except for one last hurrah for forsaken
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>>737374434
Much like 7 it burns really bright after taking a while to lit up, then just completely goes to fucking shit by the halfway mark. Every RE since 4 has been utterly allergic to having good second halbes, I cannot fathom why.
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>>737372343
Hollow Knight
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>>737381405
re2 started it
post rpd is fucking BORING there arent nearly enough lickers they just print out armies of zombies you take out with one or two shots of your big guns
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>>737372323
>after RE6
That's retarded.
It's Resident Evil after RE3: Nemesis
RE4 and beyond were hot trash.
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>>737371528
helldivers 2
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Monster Hunter
Was in it from the start
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Guilty Gear
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>>737371528
all the SEGA IPs that keep getting outsourced to faggot westoid devs
everything from capcom
steins;gate
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>>737382624
Oh and MGS as well as anything from kojima
also >>737382607 and anything from arcsissies
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>>737382375
Resident Evil 4 is the best video game of all time.
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>>737382708
Mb cat walked over my keyboard, I meant ocarina of time.
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>>737371528
Most of them.
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>>737382607
>Nothing to HUH HAH HUAH about
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>>737371528
Tekken, King of Fighters, Street Fighter, Mortal Kombat, Guilty Gear. Fallout, Doom, Yakuza, Duke Nukem, Quake, Grand Theft Auto, Zelda, Fatal Fury, Mega Man. I would've said Resident Evil but I enjoyed Requiem a lot more than I expected to.
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>>737371528
Not vidya, but Spider-man.
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>>737371528
I thought it was Pokemon, but I guess I’m a battered housewife because the WiWa trailer looked pretty good to me.
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>>737382703
dunno how I forgot this one >>737375520
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>>737372323
>killing floor
Yeah that makes sense, KF3 was pretty lacklus-
>after the 2009 steam release
Nigger what?
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Mario RPGs
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>>737372343
There’s plenty that are still good but I can’t think of them on the spot currently.
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>>737375109
This was Technology Connections for me. Holy fuck is that guy a faggot. He hid it well early on but all his recent videos are more whiny rants than anything else.
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>>737381528
Silksong was worse
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>>737389983
Yep. When he almost started crying because orange man bad was it for me. What a faggot.
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>>737371528
I've been going through Yakuza fatigue lately. Release frequency is too high with at least one game a year now, the games have become too intentionally ridiculous, and I'm not a fan of the JRPG gameplay.
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>>737371528
all of them
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>>737371528
Orcs Must Die!
Prince of Persia
Dark Souls
Fallout
Monster Hunter

i'm basically just looking at a list of recent games really, and it's just that games don't need to run their course for me as much as the developers are willing to keep it alive as a business. I guess I could include MMOs like Planetside or World of Warcraft, but I mostly dipped out of those long before they could fix their core issues or fall even deeper into its shittiness.
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>>737371528
Total War Been playing it since 2000...
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>>737371528
applies to more series than it doesn't apply to
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>>737371528
Fable
Dragon age
Ass Creed
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When I was young and Warcraft 3 came out, I used to dream of working for Blizzard and making Warcraft 4.
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The easy answer is everything has gotten worse.
The hard answer is we're all older now and "same game but #3/4/5/etc" gets dull.
Yes some series try to reinvent themselves to appeal to the next audience and fail miserably because they don't get kids or kids just don't want Dad's hand-me-downs. And we can easily identify that as the series got worse. But the inevitability of time is the biggest reason our old toys aren't good anymore.
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>>737371528
I've never felt this way before. I just play games that look fun. If they're not fun, I stop playing them. I don't get this concept of marrying an IP.
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>>737381405
RE4's second half is dog shit though. Literally the only good thing about the 2nd half of RE4 is the regenerators.
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>>737371528
Atelier. the series never recovered after they axed the time limits.
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>>737392119
Yes and no. I want more of what I liked in the games I originally liked, years ago, and less of what they became. Most of the 'series' I would buy into no longer resemble the original and some even by the very next game, like; Dragon Age Origins.
There is no Dragon Age Origins on the market right now and there has not been since said game came out. There is no Medieval 2 Total War and the next one is *promised* 6 years from now. There is no Halo that plays anything like Halo 2, other than replaying Halo 2. There is no Mass Effect that plays LIKE Mass Effect. I am not holding my breath for DoW 4 after 3. No X-Com 3 and a hundred other series that are long dead.

Just a series of skinsuits, made by people who 20 years ago would have openly mocked not just those few titles I mentioned but video games in general.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdbfAj8sm_E Nothing holds a candle to what DA:O was. I wanted more blood, more death, more sacrifice and last stands. More monstrous evil to slay with 0(ZERO) grey morality. I did not care that there were gay 'options' because it was not shoved in your face then, and the 'world' was ending. I could flatly ignore it. I could take all but 2 of any of the companions and playthrough the hero's journey into the hero's sacrifice without knowing anything more than the male elf is clearly a poof, who I could banish.

Not to mention the technical failings across the board. Half the gameplay tech from earlier games have vanished even in strategy and tactics focused games. Everything is dumbed down and the stories more or less have devolved into therapy sessions of the dev's and writers. If it does not have complexity it should require skill and preferably both.
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>>737371528
fromsoftware after elden shit
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>>737393674
>>737392119
>inb4 I hate women
I do but that is unrelated. I beat Halo 2 on Heroic coop with my teenage sister who otherwise had played Spyro before but nothing else. She did not need Legendary to be made easier, she did not need to relate to the fucking arbiter or chief. She did not need sad montage scenes trying to show off his ptsd. She liked the game because it was fun. My missus likes playing Scrabble online. The only people I have ever known that like what 'modern' games have become are people that routinely find themselves ostracised from any hobby, at any point in history.

Proof of this is my grandfather never got bored of metal working and he died in his 80's. My dad never got bored of working on cars and bikes. My uncle who is in IT is an avid woodworker and golfer. My FiL is retired Air Force and last time the in laws were here he insisted on checking out the local small plane museum, and watched 2 separate aviation documentaries over the weekend, has owned his own planes.

The VG industry was co-opted by dickheads with MBA's due to its market size and people with useless degrees not good enough to make it in anywhere else like banking where they could be multi millionaires.

'Us' getting older has very little to do with it.
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>>737375474
>Fromsoft
Armored Core 6 is arguable the best game they've ever made.
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>>737392119
>The hard answer is we're all older now and "same game but #3/4/5/etc" gets dull.
>Yes some series try to reinvent themselves to appeal to the next audience
You either get sequels that are more of the same that people give a hard time for being more of the same, or you get sequels that are too different that people give shit for that instead. Some people prefer they do the former, some the latter.
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>>737371528
That you let go doesnt mean that it stops hurting when they keep profaning the remains of what once was
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40k as a whole.
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what's the difference between killing a white zombie in Texas versus killing a black zombie in Uganda
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>>737394698
For me its MtG. I've also written off Pathfinder because it's impossible to find a non-cancerous group that can meet consistently.
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>>737375109
Monster Hunter. I'm not an oldfag but I had nonetheless been a fan since Freedom 2. Seeing all the sovl get sucked out of the franchise in real time was heartbreaking.
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>>737394849
We had a good run and fun games. We just have to accept we're not the audience anymore and no matter how much we try it's not going back to those times. Just be glad you're not a pig in the shit too blind to see what you're consuming
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>>737394016
>video games are equivalent to golfing, woodworking, metal working, etc
I get what you're trying to say but we engage with video games a lot differently than those kinds of hobbies. Games are a lot more comparable to movies and books where we're all at the mercy of the creators to create something we engage with rather than being able to create something ourselves. Nobody owns Golf. Saudi Arabia bought out the PGA which raises ethical concerns about watching Golf but that likely doesn't stop your Uncle from going out for a round and having fun. You could play a 20 year old game you enjoy and still have fun. No one is stopping you.
I don't disagree the hobby has been invaded. The industry is bigger than ever and the amount of games that release daily is beyond absurd. It's not sustainable. But good games are still being made, quite a few actually if you're open to trying new stuff. So I do have to attribute SOME of the negative attitudes to just us old people complaining because that's what old people do. Things are getting worse though, definitely.
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>>737390038
The 2nd game usually is unless you're early 90s Capcom. That doesn't make the franchise bad.
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Monster Hunter after 4G
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>>737372828
>Reach NYC
>"Oh but you can't go THIS way, because we need you to go THAT way until you circle around to THIS point where you wanted to go in the first place, sweaty. :) <3"
That sounds made up
I'm pretty sure you can explore all of Castellia and peak into the desert area a little bit
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>>737375109
the sims
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>>737371528
Monster Hunter
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>>737372323
At this point there's far too many to list
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>>737382375
code veronica is the best re thoever.
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>>737381256
Destiny for me as well.

Everything in Destiny is so fucking dumb now. They must have finally run out of story bible from the first narrative director they fired before Destiny 1 came out. I fucking hate that they did nothing with the idea that we're playing as walking corpses controlled by a space god with dubious intentions.
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>>737375383
>Jolly Wanker after he started talking
God damn his videos suck dick after the subtitle-era of his channel.
It's like when Criken started talking, early on it was great but now his videos suck ass and a lot of them are just ads.
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sonic games for sure
even though everything after adventure 2 was really hit and miss, you could still see the vision and passion when they tried. and you still had gems like the advance and rush games.
the gimmicks dont matter if they cant make some decent controls and level design. Forces was a complete disgrace - a 2 hour auto pilot game, and the frontiers stages are just shameless rehashes of better games

say what you want about a messy game like heroes, but you will never get a creative level like mystic mansion or egg fleet from the current sonic team.
I would even accept another story book game if they just made something that isnt FUCKING GREEN HILL AGAIN
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I keep seeing these threads be reposted on Facebook.
Say hi to the Facebook kiddies, /v/
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>Metroid
>Zelda
>Dark Souls



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