>Playing FFXIV, getting my last few jobs lvl'ed 90-100>Get into lvl.91 dungeon, first of current endgame expansion as tank>Notice healer just spams cure 2, no regens, no aoe heals>Keeps standing next to me not taking any hint as i turn bosses and dps stay behind and i stay in front just trying to keep this dumbass out of conal attacks>Clearly has no idea how to play at the base lvl.15 dungeon level let alone current content>Dps are going "do you want some tips?">They get passive aggressive about how people are "so toxic to boosters" and the classic "you dont pay my sub">WAR so dont really need to worry when they die on every boss>The final boss they just simply cannot deal with the tornado and aoes happening at the same time>Dps, twelve bless em, even waste pheonix downs on getting them back up for all of like 15 seconds>Dancer offers to tutor them after the dungeon and give them tips>"Fuck off lmao this game is shit what a waste of money" says the White Mage as they exit the dungeonWhy do people do this? the whole deal of an mmo is the dungeons and classes increase in complexity over time. Why would you know fuck all and spend money to be dropped in the deep end -especially as healer- hoping you can nobrain through every mechanic. Is it some assumption group content means you will be carried?I will never understand the mindset of the boosting barry. Paying money to skip the videogame only to find out you are bad at the videogame because you didnt learn to play and then getting mad at everyone else.At least back in WoW being an aggressive retard was baseline so it was a little more acceptable but i see this in every mmo that offers a boost. Like i get devs might see years of content as off putting to potential new customers but why not make them do a mandatory tutorial first?
the only people worse than the boosting retards in mmos are the crybabies who whine about them
>>737372227>only to find out you are bad at the videogameI miss the days when this was acceptable.
>>737372386I boost and im trans btw
>>737372227Because MMOs are boring
>>737372227>Fuck off lmao this game is shit what a waste of moneythink of who would talk like this. probably a kid/teen trying healer after being carried to this point as a dps. i wouldn't worry about it.
>>737372227>pay money to play game>pay someone else to play it for youWhy? Why would you do that? Wtf?
>>737372227The monthly fee is encouraging people to rush the game as quickly as possible, the less you have to play the cheaper it becomes. Get rid of the monthly fee and you would see a lot less stressed out players.
>>737372817You can inspect someone in FFXIV and it shows all their jobs and they only had White Mage at lvl.90 and nothing else.
>>737372227because getting aether currents is gay and retarded, waiting an eternity for NPCs to finish dialogue is excruciating, and the pick up 3/kill 3/big red circle/3 small circles/examine 3-5 hidden things on the ground repetitive quest sequence of FFXIV is aids. FFXVI from top to bottom is abhorrent dog shit and the playerbase reflects that. expressly kill yourself
>>737373342You are weak and will not survive the Solstice.
You tell him what to do.It's not hard just speak up and v a leader.This is on you for not vetting your teammates and preparing accordingly.Basic question to start off with is "is this anyone's first time?"You were as pathetic as your weakest party member this time.
>>737373528I played FFXI from 02-11. FFXIV is just a terrible game
If you choose to play an MMO you sign a social contract that you'll do your best in content with other people. You don't have to be good, you just need to at least try. Doesn't matter if you paid money to be there, it's exactly the same as anything else you'd pay to partake in, yet the fun is dependent on there being other people. Like laser tag or an escape room.If you can't understand or handle that, you should be playing a singleplayer MMO like Crimson Desert.
>>737372227fakeliterally no screenshots
Meanwhile:>Play DRG>Greenbeard has no idea how to do anything>Teach him using in game mechanics, no voice chat needed>Point the laser pointer at what he needs to do, he listens>Gives everyone a rock and stone as he leaves, now better at using his classMaybe your game just has a shit community, OP.
>>737374019real but the truth is that OP was the healer
>>737372227Brother I have played with completely clueless boosters with overinflated egos as wellNo amount of progress saves that, you fucking take them by their retarded little neck and baby them through the dungeonOh they literally can't handle wall to wall? S'all good, I'll single pull. Everybody (including me and statistically you) in this generation has ODD so you word all instructions as suggestions so they can pretend they did it themselves. "Careful you don't get cleaved"And because they have ODD they don't want tips. You don't offer to give advice when shit hits the fan, you give advice before you get to shit that matters. You've tanked this far, you should know the tells of a shit party member at this point. I've had retards that literally only spammed medica. You rescue them for other people by big brothering them through a 30 minute mechanics crash course.
>be me>trying to lvl Dark Knight>do leveling roulette>aurum veil>"alright lets do this">healer is a Conjurer, not White Mage>"whatever, should be fine">do normal pull>die>check healers gear>all underleveled>"ffs">do super small pulls, somehow reach the end of the dungeon>tell healer to upgrade to WHM>"no"why are they like this?
How did the French manage to make the best MMORPG of 2026?
>>737372227Shut up, sweaty tryhard
>>737374782do you post this in all mmo threads?the picture doesn't sell your game at all0 interest on my part for sure
>>737373889What? No. The only "contract" I sign is about me having fun. That's it.
>>737372896Why woupd you pay money for something you don't want to play...
>>737374768you dont pay my sub.
>>737375112They want to play, just not the worthless filler content meant to pad out your playtime.
>>737374768I'm reminded of the tales you used to hear about Black Mages only casting Ice spells and refusing to engage with the mana system. Has anyone actually ever run into those people I find it extremely hard to believe
Imagine bullying the only guy willing to play healer
>>737375320Brother ALL the content is filler, even the good bits. Trust me I played it all up through Endwalker. If you don't enjoy the moment to moment gameplay playing through each dungeon then I have no clue why you'd pay to get out of the free tier
>>737375343Oh you mean "i'm an ice mage"? yeah all the fucking time. Often they ended up being wowfugees that didn't understand the game didn't have specs and function like that. The worst was still Heavensward era when every shitter was named "Kirito Stark" or "Daenaeries Windrunner".
>>737374768another story of mine>try to lvl DRK>do leveling roulette>Aurum veil again>"ok lets do this">i have slightly underleveled gear but it should be fine>do big pull>die>DPS: your gear is underleveled>"yeah mb i'll do smaller pulls>do smaller pull>die>check White mage>gear is way underleveled>doesn't even use a staff>no regen>WHM: wow our healer is shit>DPS also starts giving me shit without commenting on the gear of the WHM
>>737375343i haven't encountered such a BLM, but i once did Porta Decumana and our RDM only used the sword combo, didn't use a single spell, i told him he has to build mana but he just kept goingtook forever to finish that run
are we ready for pyrehail expac?
i like this one
>>737372227>People talking in dungeons at allDunno about that, chief
>>737378913Man i had a fucking preatorium the other day where the whole time a lalafell with an indian sounding name was trying to hit on the two miqote dps in the party and it was the cringiest shit i've seen in an mmo in years.
>>737378913it's rare, but it happenssometimes you even enter a raid with ERP fags
>>737372227Most modern MMORPGs have completely abandoned any idea of being an MMO or RPG and instead are based entirely around boss encounters set in big funhouse rooms with Mario Party mechanics and Simon Says Dance Dance Revolution rotations mechanics. Many players do not want to wade through the neglected sludge to get to the content, they want to go straight to the content.It's terrible fucking content which has failed every time someone has attempted to make a game that is based purely on modern """MMO""" endgame content by itself without the residual MMO surrounding it, but it IS the main "content" of the game and its understandable that many players would want to skip straight to it.
>>737379215
>>737374218The more I think about it the more it feels like MMO playerbases have near 100% overlap with the L4D and Vermintide playerbases
Pyrehail sounds like a bad title though, almost as silly as Stormblood
>>737379427>we both mocked the hell out of Rick Hunter for being a sexist dipstickwew
>>737379516nah, Stormblood sounds cooler tbhhonest desu
>>737379752Did you miss that he was an academic of some sort?
>>737380683really tho, what academic needs to be in love with their own voice?
>>737375668>do aurum vale>have good gear, use cds, don't stand in pee puddles>undergeared healer reeing about how I should learn to play and stop taking so much damageMany such cases in the caves of piss.
>>737375668>>WHM: wow our healer is shitmeant to type "wow our tank is shit"mb:(
>>737372386
>>737373342I don't care if you wanna skip the story/quests.But learn to play your class so you aren't wasting my time when we end up together.
>>737382304this
>>737372227>Why the fuck do people boost in mmos?I NEED TO GET TO THE ENDGAME ANYTHING THAT IS NOT CURRENT RAID TIER IN AN MMO IS A WASTE OF TIME IF I SPEND EVEN ONE DAY NOT IN ENDGAME IT'S OVER AND I'M NGMI MUH ENDGAME MUH ENDGAME MUH ENDGAME
>>737373342Level boost doesn't give you aether currents only story boost does
>>737372386you are retarded
>>737375112There is a distinct lack of the kind of content that endgame MMOs provide: cooperative, tactical play against scripted encounters in combination with strategic planning via character building and pre-encounter prep. Most existing high-skill coop games (hero shooters, extraction shooters, assfaggots) are drop-in with little in the way of persistent character builds and frequently pit you against other players.There's only a couple games, outside of MMOs, that have started to fill this niche.
>>737375343I only met some booster in late ShB that either didn't speak English at all or genuinely never played a video game before because he didn't understand what mechanic means, but the whole party was nice to him and tried to teach him what to do but after 10 tries of failing the boss I just gave up, excused myself and left. I never knew dohn mheg is impossible if someone sandbags and fails every soak on the 2nd boss where you have to prevent the tethers from making it grow too big.
>>737383842but if you're boosted you won't know what the fuck you're doing, how is that fun?also, they fucking over the people that DO know what to do, do these people not feel bad for messing up?
>>737384626Yes, they are very selfish. They assume they baller enough to play the game properly at the end (that their poor performance while leveling is only due to shit gear that they will leapfrog), or otherwise handwave that the learning period won't be bad.(Not defending boosters, I hate them too, I just understand the logic.)
>>737372227>play AST>do tome nigger dungeons>speedrun all the time because I dont want to waste time>occasionally get the retard tank that can't keep up>no problem I'll just pull the rest to you kek>sometimes they sperg out and leave>just tank on my own till someone else joins inIf you want to carry just play as the healer
if someone gave me 100usd to boost a job or something.... i think i might accept that offer, which sucks because i hate boosted accounts
>>737385512i don't play AST, but how many mobs can you pull as a healer?
>>737385512Fuckin hate this shit. Let the tank do his job you dickhole
>>737385620I don't play anymore but if you're asking how many mobs I could tank by myself it was 2 packs of mobs, same as a slow ass tank that can't be bothered to just hold W. Maybe it's even easier now actually.
>>737385921maybe try to keep up?
>>737386083Maybe help the party instead of being a selfish prick.
>>737386393im not the AST anon but if the healer can heal himself and the party while pulling then i don't see what the problem is
an XIV thread where people are talking about their experiences in-game?what is this?
Final Fantasy XIV: Pyrehail - out in March 2027>Viking>Berserker>Aerslaent>Verticality is a big feature in all PH zonesno need to (You) me, just keep it in mind for Friday
>>737388612lollmao
I just use mods and wrath combo. It make the game actually playable.
XIV is just unplayable.
PSA JOLLYBEE IS DENYING YOUR CODES. SQUARE ENIX FAILS ANOTHER COLLABORATION AGAIN. CAN THEY DO ANYTHING RIGHT?
>>737389390Spaghetti bros................................................
>>737389390jew enix rapes again
>>737372227boosting is for people who dont actually like the game. Its for the "carrot on a stick" people who just get strung along the dopamine pipeline of completing tasks, they feel like they are "getting ahead" and play the game like its a chore to be completed. MMO genre is absolutely full of these "people", they swear up and down they love the game but will do everything in their power to boost and minmax through everything to get to the "end"
>>737389280how so?
>>737389509It's just unplayable, it was outdated when it launched.
>>737372227American highschooler indoctrination. Factory line worker mentality. Idk. 99% of MMO difficulty is purely because barely anyone can follow basic instruction and those that can even fewer can hold off a meltdown upon a single setback.
>>737372227>play bard>meso terminal>second boss>finish last despite making no mistakes aside from playing bardfeels bad man
>>737375112It's not about not wanting to play, it's about not wanting to pay 15€ for several months where you do nothing but level your character, at least wow actually solved this issue although in not a very good way, in wow you can reach end game in a week or two of 4 hours a day sessions, last time I played ffxiv you spent a whole month just to reach shadowbringers, and that was having trimmed like 60% of the MSQ so it was faster to level up.
>>737372227The redpill is that WoW players are the XIV boosters. They also boosted in their own game. Boosting is WoW culture.
>>737390439>It's not about not wanting to play, it's about not wanting to play the game
>>737390563Why would someone honestly boost on wow retail?It takes almost no time to reach end game and start gearing up, why would someone just not want to play at least something so they know how to play the character a bit?
>>737390745Okay, so it's just a troll or either American or turd worlder, got it
>>737390817>Why would someone honestly boost on wow retail?I don't know, but that's the only thing that occurs in chat. I know it's not uncommon at all in Classic. I think retail boosting is mostly buying clears but I'm not sure.
>>737390865No you're just a WoWnigger who mistakenly believes that leveling is some kind of gate to the "real game".
>>737390248Mathematically dps should be last to finish that fight and healer should be first.
>>737390817>Why would someone honestly boost on wow retail?Mostly because you get "free" boost along with the expansion
>>737390563This is depressing to look at
>>737390817>>737390891Yeah, boosting in WoW is more about buying clears than it is about leveling.PS we used to call it powerleveling, I don't know what the term changed. Same with prog, that term only seemed to show up after ffaggots started being normal. Never heard anyone call learning normal/heroic/mythic raids 'prog'
In this savage tier alone (yes, savage, not normal content) I have seen>DRK never going below max mana>NINs, plural, using single target Doton>RPR in the party but DD is never applied>WHM using cure 1 repeatedly>SMN using Physick repeatedly>RDM fully casting veraero/verthunderI do not understand. I can forgive some things to an extent in regular content, but people go into savage not even knowing the entire basis for their class. It is maddening.
>>737391260i know. but if i don't beat the viper who outgears me by 15 ilevels in a single target race as the second worst dps in the game it makes me feel bad
>>737391575>DD is never appliedBased.
>>737372227idk OP. i often wonder why anyone does anything at all. the behavior of many people on this planet is baffling to me. this is just yet another example of something i'll never understand.
>>737391431>PS we used to call it powerleveling, I don't know what the term changed.It was "power leveling" back when you couldn't purchase a boost. Then WoW started allowing you to purchases "boosts", and it became boosting. Even the term itself comes from WoW because it is WoW culture.
>>737372227if people would just say hey I boosted if I do something really wrong tell me that would go so far. Like do they not want to play the game well?
Have you ever seen someone you know that plays post themselves /v/?
>>737372227skipping dawntrail just makes sense
>>737391878Oh yeah, I forgot about the commercial aspect. I was only thinking of community language/behavior. That makes sense.
>want to play an MMO>take a glance at them>they're all shit or not for me>>737391942At least this man is based enough to troll people who follow him. Everyone is a guy online still applies to MMOs
>>737373627>Tell them it's your first time>They kick you because they don't want to handhold you through itIt's no wonder people keep quiet and pretend to know what they're doing rather than admit to inexperience.
FF14 8.0 leaked.
>>737374768>tell healer to upgrade to WHM>"no"
>>737374705Best post in the thread, this is the way
>>737391927dis nigga poopin an eyebal an sheeit
>>737373627YOU DON'T PAY MY SUB
>>737392142>multiple weapon types on a job>BST in 8.0 even though it's a 7.5x feature that has no explicit relation to the next expansion>the base game will include up to Endwalker nowZozzle.
>>737372227Raidfags "catching up".
>>737392221Love from Kazakhstan
>>737392316>multiple weapon types on a jobWAR can use hammers right now.
>>737374768I actually met another guy just like this, apparently some people speedrun FFXIV ARR, and the quickest way to beat it is to go conjurer the entire way because getting WHM takes too much time
>>737392346Hammers are just reskinned axes and few and fare in between.Flails, hammers, morning stars and kanabo are different from each other.
>>737392390If the animations work, that's all that matters.
>>737392434Well, a flail isn't just a kanabo with a chain and vice versa.
>>737392142If this is true, then>Free MSQ skipRIP XIV. Burned on the pyre of making it a lobby game.
>>737392221Redpill me on this figure skating girl. I never got the message, I just saw her get posted everywhere and no one would tell me why.
>>737390248ranged tax (please ignore summoner)
>>737392662>(please ignore summoner)Everyone already does.
>>737392517I think that's a bad call as well if it's true, but also they need to streamline shit more. I feel like at least 30% of all MSQs could be cut out entirely and you'd lose nothing.
>>737391431powerlevelling is when you grind your balls off in game to get levels quick, usually using some other high level character to help you get levels quicker. It's actually just a generic video game term
>>737391575This is why I can't even deal with doing Savage/Extreme content anymore.
>>737392737literally just delete everything that isn't a dungeon or a trial and this game would become actually good, like a positive score 6/10 good alright decent fine game
>>737392737Definitely a problem on the horizon. I just don't think a baseline story skip of 2.0 to past 6.0 is the way to handle it.In the meantime, they should make it so that if you clear the MSQ once, any alt you make can ignore the MSQ and just level separately from it. Maybe that'll make people feel a bit better. "Yeah, this is a lot of story to get through, but I do it once on one character and then I don't have to do it on any subsequent characters."
>>737392934>literally just delete everything that isn't a dungeon or a trial and this game would become actually good, like a positive score 6/10 goodYou can just go play WoW if you want a 6/10 game that only has dungeons.
>>737393002WoW has enjoyable combat though sis, that's why no content XIV adds makes anyone happy or want to grind anything.
>>737391575>but DD is never appliedIt's all about sending a message to the dev team using clear logs
>>737393149no it doesn't
>>737393149WoW's combat is not enjoyable. WoW's combat is like using one of those XIV plugins that turns your rotation into like 3-5 buttons, and in WoW there will be bosses whose entire fight is literally 1 mechanic from an XIV fight. It's not even comparable.
>>737391748>>737393243Death mark on Reaper should just be a personal buff, would solve a lot of issues
>>737393318WoW has a one button mode and it is unironically superior for it.
>>737393318that's what I'm sayin' man, make WoW but with actually fun combat, and you've got yourself a 6/10 game
>>737393376It'll be gone in 8.0 so it doesn't matter.
>>737392935I'll become hyperspeed anon for my parroting it, but instead of an MSQ skip they need a hyper-speed option where you can do the full experience or you can do an expedited method (You'll get xp with it, not gear or money). It takes more work from them but it also gives them more money as people still have to pay for a true skip. >>737392142As much as the enemies I saw for garlean dungeon felt void aspected, the weird dark souls boss Julius walks towards (Whose most likely something puppeting Quntus, hence the split open head) did feel a bit weird. Like yeah he could be a 13th sharder but also like he could be something else.>>737393387How can people find that fun. If the combat is super fast paced and dodging shit then fine, I don't remember Wildstar having 1 button mode but the experience was more dodging bullet-hell than rotation. But XIV with zero rotation is fit to be an interactive cutscene.
>>737393404>It'll be gone in 8.0That's kind of a grim prospect, Reaper is in such a weird spot with Viper being around now
>>737393387>WoW has a one button mode and it is unironically superior for it.kek that's hilarious. Oh my god dude that is too funny. I do kinda wish XIV had a one button mode though. Maybe people wouldn't be so retarded if they didn't have to press buttons. That's probably why WoW added it too; people were just too retarded. >>737393403You gotta pick a shitpost, lil bro. I'm starting to think you don't play XIV or WoW, and if that's the case what the fuck are you doing in this thread shitposting?
>>737393467>I'll become hyperspeed anon for my parroting it, but instead of an MSQ skip they need a hyper-speed option where you can do the full experience or you can do an expedited method (You'll get xp with it, not gear or money).Hyperspeed? The longest parts are still the story.
>ReaperDeath's Design is replaced by Doom. Gives a random counter between 10 and 30 seconds. At the end of the counter, the enemy will either die (bosses immune) or will receive massive damage if the death doesn't land.A completed Doom timer will grant Harvest Moon.Harvest Moon instantly fills blue gauge.All basic attacks have a small AoE radius.Enshroud is now on a 40 second cooldown.Red gauge is no longer used to build blue gauge. Instead, it represents blood aether pulled from the enemy. The aether can be consumed by the RPR to increase the damage of the next Enshroud, or can be released to build limit break.
>>737393483>grim prospectLike the Grim Raper?
>>737393492it's called summoner
>>737393580WoWfag...
>>737393563
>>737375447it's the right thing to do. if everyone bullied all the healer players until they quit devs would realize their game stopped functioning and eventually just let tanks and DPS manage their own health.
>>737372896>Get rid of the monthly fee and you would see a lot less stressed out players.Fuck that entirely. It's a lot less hassle to just pony up the 15 bucks and get the whole service up front instead of parceled out in a bunch of different packages or other bullshit. If you're broke to the point of needing to stress about min-maxing a 15 dollar a month subscription in a genre that's made for you to be able to dump infinite hours into you should probably spend that money somewhere else.
>>737393580smn still has more buttons than that
>>737393580>pvp job design has so much SOVL>the pvp design in question
>>737372896Anon, XIV is the only FF game making SE any money. If you remove XIV's subscription, you lose Final Fantasy.
>>737393149Didn't WoW just completely gut their combat this expansion by making it even more brain dead?
>>737375343People are genuinely too retarded to press 1-2-3 while the buttons light up and automatically appear in the correct order on the hotbar the first time you unlock them and you still have doubts?
>>737393504Which is what they'd cut the fat from a lot of. You could take dawntrail and drop it down immensely by just limiting it to the dungeon, trials, and the more relevant questlines. We're talking aggressively pruning it down. Dawntrail was such a mess cutting the fat would have me become a butcher that just dices it into kebabs and Endwalker's been too long for me to remember exact tempos at the start but think about what a zone is meant to convey and boil it down to -just- that.>Thavnair part 1Towers of Zot. The autistic elephant is important later and if you can't cutscene him then that too>Sharlayan part 1"Wtf are they doing" + Erenville>Garlemald zone"Where are the fucking garleans" + Junius. So the little girls in the cold, Junius, then the fantastic escape after being body jacked solo engagement.>MoonAncient Amaurotine up there, severely cut back the loporrits.>Thavnair 2Autistic elephant's scene was a cutscene and was great, I don't remember much more>ElpisSeverely cut back the 'chase meteon during her freakout', some of the initial stuff with Hermes can be cutscened, but first bit is the big time waster.>Sharlayan part 2Very big waste of time. Easy to cut a lot here.>Ultima ThuleExpedite the three encounters, but keep the engagement here for emotional pullIf you wanted an abstract measurement then excluding dungeon/trial no zone should take more than 1 hour without skipping cutscenes, and 6 hours would still be rather steep for a hyperspeed.
>>737393757If we had PvP designs in PvE I feel like people would lose their mind.PvP design only really works in a PvP setting (you don't constantly engage with it, and the dynamic is way different than whacking a mob)
>>737375343I ran into every single stereotype imaginable during the WoW exodus. I had never run into most of them prior to that.
>>737390563how is this possible?don't you have to reach lvl 50 with whatever job to unlock SAM?
>>737394149Don't worry people that want pvp style combat in pve don't play the game so nothing would happen to them
>>737375112Story of life aint it?
>>737393376But I thought we hated job homogenization
>>737394327Melee players love homogenization and giant boss hitboxes. They just want to hit a striking dummy the size of the arena.
>>737394327Actually what happens is that primarily raiders complain about everything that makes jobs different. For example, RPR DD. Previously it was the fact that buffs would not align unless you brought certain comps, which is what lead to the 2 minute meta. Anyway, so raiders complain about everything that makes jobs different from each other, then SE "fixes" them, then raiders complain about the fix they asked for as well.
>>737372386FPBP
>>737375343I once ran into a RDM in porta decumana that was hard casting all the 5 second long spells for the entire fight and we actually failed the dps check.
>>737391575I'm starting to think everyone having the SSS clear is required to queue as a role in a fight, even a PF group. And none of that "one or more players doesn't meet the criteria etc etc", have the popup name everyone who didn't clear their SSS yet.
>>737384626>but if you're boosted you won't know what the fuck you're doing, how is that fun?Bruh it only takes a couple hours to learn how to play any class and then it only takes a few dungeons/trials/raids to have it truly memorized and be put on autoplayThe only fucking dynamic role in this game is the healer and that's only if people fuck up and take damage that they aren't supposed to
>>737394278Kek.But really, I mentioned it in a previous thread:In PvP, Geirskogul puts DRG in Life of the Dragon. In it, their damage output goes up, but they also take more damage.That's a risk-reward thing because PvP is ... well, player versus player. If you go into that mode in PvP, there's a good chance 4 other people will focus on you and kill you before you can breathe.In PvE, that element is just gone. It just turns into a regular buff that you might turn off when you see a huge incoming AoE damage cast and then use again whenever it comes back up.
>>737375343I was in one of the end game places a few months ago and some nigger joined on an archer. Not bard. Archer. I said how did you get all the way here without upgrading your class there is no way you're that dumb and he said he doesn't want to buff people but he wants to play Archer and idk i think he's a retard but i like his spirit i toi wish Archer stayed cool and didn't become a gay buff bot
>>737378913It's pretty normal if you just break the ice you can try at the beginning and if they respond then you can chit chat or if they don't then you just run the function ezpz. Sometimes if someone greets too gayly i pretend I'm mute too
>Melee players love homogenization and giant boss hitboxes. They just want to hit a striking dummy the size of the arena.
one thing they should do is to make another tier for people that bought the expansions and some months of sub but right isn't subbing, it doesn't make sense you need a whole new account to access the F2P content.
>>737385512I do this as samurai and it used to be even easier when you could use kaiten because you could intentionally crit self heals kek
>>737394708I honestly am glad we no longer have EW hitboxes.And I like positionals on my main job. I don't love-love them, but I like them. If they're removed, I want there to be a good reason for it.
>>737392579She quit after a decade of success because of the constant pressure from everyone around her. She decided to make a comeback for the Olympics and told her coaches and the committee she would only do it on her terms and they had to get off her back. They said yes because she's champion caliber even after years away from skating and they had no replacements for her. She had the best performances of her career, mogged the competition, and said "that's what I'm FUCKING talking about" live on Olympic television to the whole world. Basically she doesn't give a fuck and kicks ass so everyone loves her. I like her feet though.
>>737394818>and said "that's what I'm FUCKING talking about" live on Olympic televisionHoly frick... she literally CURSED on TELEVISION? What a freaking bada**...
>>737394751worlo is right over there anon
Positionals are...le goodBring back 6 positionals Monke
>>737395054My man coming in with the correct opinions.
>>737392517Makes a sort of sense from a reactionary standpoint. SE wants to appease people who dropped the game with DT by letting them skip it if they come back, and the company is also terrified of new players joining only to be told that the story becomes fucking horrible at that part if they want to reach the newest shit.
Just throwing it in here that I noticed 7.5 added slide in/out animations for the notification alerts.
>>737395219Damn game is saved and wowbucks are seething at this post lol
>>737393908Good. FF has sucked for like 20 years now.
>>737395095and then do what though?the same 4 raid bosses? the same roulette dungeons? the 2 ex trials?xiv benefits from being a game that drops a bunch of stuff for everyone over the course of an expansion and then builds up those piles over time
>>737395219For what and where?
>>737372386Yeah. Like, people buy boost because they have money but no time, there's nothing more to it. But crying about it and pretending that your number go up game is deep, now that's pathetic.
>>737393908Keeping a lazy MMO cash cow just so they can spit out garbage like FF15 and 16 isn't the way to go. The franchise deserves to die.
whats with this lala
>>737395536That's a Taru.
>>737395536That is THE black mage (other than Vivi)
>>737395291You're supposed to move on and play a different game once you've done all the content
>>737394516>bruhlol i'm not reading your shit, nigger
>>737395549she's really tall. i hope those other guys see her in time before she crushes them
>>737374768I don't understand why they haven't forced you to queue with your job stone past a certain level threshold when they eliminated the gameplay distinctions between jobs and classes years ago. Anyone queueing any piece of content past Longstop/Qarn without their stone are just slothful retards
>>737395628Yeah I know it probably takes you 30 minutes to read 60 words
>>737372227Didn't they make those lvl15 boss fight tutorial missions mandatory years ago?
>try open beta when it came out>game releases>it's shit>pulled back/releases again>now it's decent, but can't play because lyfe>some years down the line>game is now "free">maybe I should give it a try now>can't start trial/free version>wtf>turns out I can't use my old account since it has a "beta license" or some shit like that>can't remove>can only buy the game and playguess I won't be playing after allno I'm not using another emailthanks for subscribing btw
>>737395784nope. you just go to the hall of the novice, get suggested you do them, then sent to sastasha
>>737393492There are several flavors of above-and-beyond combo simplification mods that do collapse a rotation to one button, if you're on PC.
>>737394268There were no classes after the 1.0 and 2.0 stuff. Everything that came later is just the job from the start.
>>737395269Yep, agreed.
>>737379274I think a factor is that if its MMO then you want to go where people are playing. In MMOs after a while youre going to see a lot of players just at the endgame. People really dont like being prevented from being able to play with the majority of players just because they haven't put in the giant time investment yet.
>>737395618For a new player, a lot of things are content past the expansions' respective MSQs.
Not replying to 5 coping trannys but WoW's combat mogs the fuck out of XIV's combat just by the input delay not existing alone, set bonuses and trinket procs BTFO out of XIV completely. XIV just feels like trash. I could see someone liking it if it's their first MMO, but anyone whose experienced both for any serious amount of time can't honestly say XIV is fun.
>>737396296WoW is unplayable and it was aged on release.
>>737372227This is an issue in all video games today, people pay to skip, either through official means or through cheating or account sharing. Why you ask?Gaming is mainstream, people who play games today aren't doing so for enjoyment but rather to be a part of something. They don't want to try, they don't want to learn, they don't want to overcome, they simply want to have. It's ruined MMOs especially but it's taken a toll on most genres.
>>737396296I will simply never support WoW now that they're charging $40 for early access.>but you don't have to buy itFuck you, it was free in the past.
The uncomfortable truth is that WoW is patient zero for this behavior, raid and arena boosting, paying for carries, it all started right there.
>>737372227The game must be omega garbage if it lets you pay to skip the content you paid for.
>>737374768There used to be a retard on Crystal that refused to use job stones just to be le wacky.
>>737396404>now that they're charging $40 for early access.That edition comes with a lot of other stuff that are well worth the money.
>>737396430It's intended for people who already did the content and want a second character. Unfortunately, it's mostly used by people who just suck.
My time is worth more than the boost
>>737396418I was selling arena points back in TBC retail, there's always been a market for boosts. Shit, I was selling Titan hard clears back at XIV 2.0 release too.
>>737396435His OF meltdown when he accidentally got the RDM one because it's handed to you when you start the quest rather than being a final reward, and he wasn't allowed to throw it away, was hilarious. I wonder if he really permanently quit or if he came back later.
>>737396506They removed the early access from the $50 tier, I don't want the extras I want the expansion+early access. I won't support retail WoW while they only have early access on the expensive tier.
>>737396610tl;dr?
>>737396581True, but >alwaysis incorrect, MMOs existed before 2004 and that behavior was rare at best. WoW brought in a lot of what we could call non-gamers and that sparked the desire for clear buying. It's been normalized to the point where you can look back at the last decade of WoW and people openly talk about and see no problem with boosting.
>DragoonJump is now a GCD attack on a 20 second cooldown. Gives 1 second of invulnerability during the animation. 50% chance to trigger Double Jump which allows you to repeat the attack with doubled potency. Mirage Dive now follows up from Jump and Double Jump only, can not be stored. Now looks like a phantom (You) repeating the jump.Piercing Talon can now be held down to charge it up. Every three seconds of charge time doubles the potency. Animation powers up with charge time. After 10 seconds of charge time it becomes Spear of the Fury which is just a really satisfying Anor Londo spear throw with lots of screen shake for feeling cool.Learns Leap, an OGCD targeted movement skill with a 2 second cooldown and 30 yalm range.Learns Super Jump, sends the DRG into the air for 10 seconds. Increases evasion by 50% and reduces damage by 10% while airborne. After 10 seconds the DRG crashes down for massive damage. Gierskogul directly upgrades into Nastrond. Both cost MP and can be spammed.Life Surge is renamed to Lancet. Restores equivalent HP and MP to damage dealt and grants a shield equivalent to 10% of damage dealt.
>>737396659This is such performative outrage, lol. Most people with any sense will get that edition anyway. It's a big nothingburger.
>MonkMonk's attacks are reduced to three buttons, but they enable complex combo strings. Whichever of the three combo starters you choose contextually changes all three buttons into the next stage of a combo, with each possible combination leading to a different ability. After the third stage of the combo string, Masterful Blitz is activated giving a unique finisher depending on the combo. In essence, MNK's entire damage kit becomes Blitz.All Riddles cost MP.Riddle of Earth now has two charges. Using Riddle of Earth doubles max HP and doubles defense for 10 seconds.Using Forbidden Chakra under Riddle of Earth has an additional effect of increased enmity gain.Riddle of Wind now has a 30 second cooldown. It increases movement speed for 10 seconds and turns all GCDs into ranged attacks.Learns Riddle of Lightning, which guarantees that all attacks are direct crits.Learns Hundred Fists, which reduces auto attack delay to 0 for 20 seconds.Using Forbidden Chakra or Enlightenment reduces the cooldown of a random Riddle by 5 seconds.Elixir Burst reduces the cooldown of Riddle of Lightning by 30 seconds.Phantom Rush reduces the cooldown of Hundred Fists by 30 seconds.Mantra now has a follow up ability, Chakra, which heals nearby allies.Learns Cleanse, cleanses all personal debuffs. Any debuffs cleansed restore MP to full.Learns Samsara, uses all MP to revive an ally with no weakness.
>>737396694>Learns Super Jump, sends the DRG into the air for 10 seconds. Increases evasion by 50% and reduces damage by 10% while airborne. After 10 seconds the DRG crashes down for massive damage.I too like the DRG PvP limit break
>>737396702It's less of a deal when you're paying with gold. To me, who skipped an expansion(well multiple now) and can't farm that gold without resubbing, that choice to nearly double the xpac price effectively killed my desire to ever resub to retail. I'm not going to get dicked in the ass because Blizzard want to be fags, they can provide me the service they used to or they'll get no money from me. I'm not going to start late either because if I started playing right now it'd be an unfathomably bad grind to climb the M+ ladder.
>>737396530I'll never understand people that want to make a second character outside of RP
>Red MageVice of Thorns is changed into an upgrade for Contre Sixte.Resolution is changed into an alternate finisher for the melee combo instead of Verholy/Verflare. Allows a follow-up OGCD that dashes the RDM to the end of the AoE path.Engagement is removed.Alternating Verflare and Verholy will now add a stack of a Sharpen buff to the RDM, increasing the physical damage dealt by a chosen partner (applied like Dance Partner). Failing to alternate the finisher will remove stacks. Choosing Resolution as a finisher will maintain stacks, but will not grow them.Mana Shift returns as a RDM skill.Learns Verbio, a DoT spell on a three minute cooldown. Verbio has no timer, and casting it again will add another stack of the DoT, doubling the damage each tic.Learns Vermedica and Veresuna. Both, in addition to Vercure, give 5 white mana.Learns Verbreak, binds enemies and has a chance to fully petrify them causing them to instantly die on the next instance of damage.
>>737396893>Different DC (dc travel killed part of this)>Raid alts due to lockouts>Desire to play another race without fantaing>Bank alts/Sub alts>Bored and want to play through the story again>RP/Glam alts to collect event items onPersonally I have a raid alt and a couple bank alts
>>737396692>WoW brought in a lot of what we could call non-gamers and that sparked the desire for clear buying.I mean in Everquest and FFXI, the bosses were essentially all world bosses so carrying wasn't as feasible when gear was more rare when you could go a month or more without winning a claim on a world boss.WoW having instances made it a lot easier to sell items though, items were less rare in WoW because you didn't have the FFXI HNM system where you could only see 4 Nidhoggs spawn in a month and have your guild lose every claim. But even in FFXI, people could RMT and buy gil to build a relic weapon.
imagine having to pay double price to play a game you paid for on the day of its actual release instead of 3 days later because you're not a good little paypiggy
I wish we'd just have fewer invisible walls in XIV.I don't care if I misstep and fall down a hole. I literally can teleport/return.
>>737397001>Raid alts due to lockouts>Bank alts/Sub alts>Bored and want to play through the story againdont understand this autism>Different DC (dc travel killed part of this)>Desire to play another race without fantaing>RP/Glam alts to collect event items ondo understand because it falls under RP
>>737372227The funny thing is FFXIV has the most Reddit tier carebear level of noob help available I've ever seen for a game. The sprout shit, hall of training, mentor queues etc and all it does is just encourage shit brainless play and for king shitters to feel like they achieved something by raising another generation of shitters. FFXIV is a dance mania pedo trannie game and not a real mmorpg anyway.
>>737394818Nice. Thanks for the explanation.
>>737397234>>737372227Blame controller players. Even in FFXI controller players are often leeches.
>>737397287Controller is the only non-tranny way to play FFXI.
>>737397169>Raid alts due to lockoutsOnce you've beaten a boss in the current tier for the week the system will remove rewards from a group if you join another party and clear with them. It's annoying and people make alts to be able to help others or do split clears with their static.>Bank alts/Sub altsWhere else am I storing my gil?>Bored and want to play through the story againIt happens
>>737397309You need macros for FFXI and doing them on controller is not viable.
>>737397287Most of JP plays on controller, anon, and they have the highest clear rates of any DC. It has nothing to do with controller players.
>>737397367You just hold L2 or R2, dumbo.>UHM BUT WHAT ABOUT MY LUA MACROSLike I said, the only non-tranny way is controller.
>>737397234>FFXIV is a dance mania pedo trannie gameproud of youyou really managed to make a barely legible word salad there
>>737397309if you're not using mouse/keyboard you are throwing. not even gearswap luas can save you from being a bad.
>>737397309BOTH hands on the keyboard buddy
>>737396692>It's been normalized to the point where you can look back at the last decade of WoW and people openly talk about and see no problem with boosting.I hope you're not a bot that's trained on my posts because that's exactly my position on this. It's a fucking rare opinion to have, apparently.It boggles my mind how many people not only willingly engage in it, right out in the open in public, when we used to laugh at and shame shitters as shitters for buying their shit, being a complete failure at the game. If you've got friends who do it (whether selling but also buying) and say you won't because it's fucking retarded, they'll laugh at YOU for not participating.
>>737397367The best MNK player on my server was a controller user. This was like 4-5yr ago now though
>>737397410Careful, that's the absolute height of Twitter's insults against FFXIV you're talking to
>>737397417The game was made for controller and you were made as a man.
>>737397471shiver me timbers lad
>>737397410Lower your troon med dosage and you might understand actual English. Heck you might even save your genitals but you'll still be a pedo. Probably a lala player.
>>737397406It really is insane how much you need XI to play itself for you in order to be "competitive"
>>737372227Excuse me but I'm a grown man and I work 80 hours a week so I can take care of mt wifes kids, I don't have time to play the game so I rather pay someone else to do it for me just like with my wife.
>>737397471>I got your not at all hairy and very feminine back xister, uwu
>>737397513I will never understand why normies feel the need to come here, then start ranting against degenerates. You want to be surrounded by normies, go back to the shithole you came from.
>>737397479>you were made as a man.and as a man, i use keyboard/mouse as god intended his everquest clone to be played.>what i doctrl+button>what you dotake forever to scroll to the fucking ability. you're the equivalent of a clicker, anon...
>>737397513Gotta try a bit harder. It's not as schizophrenic sounding as your previous post.
>>737397605>keyboard/mouse>FFXI
>>737397553Omelet du fromage
>>737397578we only have one weapon against doomers and normiesthe lala
>>737397448I'll admit I haven't played the game in forever but I see it, I've seen friends and acquaintances talk about it and how important it is to get X rank or X achievement and that instead of playing the game and earning it they pay for it. I'm a bit on the older side, I was around playing old school MMORPGs and the mere thought of paying someone else to complete content for you in a MMO is something I cannot even begin to wrap my head around.In XIV it takes similar forms, people pay for ultimate clears, but it also takes new forms like botting. People now openly bot crafting, leveling, fates/achievements, and even PVP, seeing no shame in straight up discussing it in public. I just don't see the point in it man.
>>737372227The problem is, even without boosts, these shitters can still make it to endgame with all the echoes and difficulty settings the story throws at you.There's people at level 100 who legitimately don't have their job stone equipped or are missing pieces of their kit you get from the 30-50 job quests.There's also people who don't follow the basic rotation of their jobs, like Blizzard Wizards who are Black Mages that only cast ice spells because then "you can never run out of mana".
>>737397682Have you considered that your friends are just retarded
>>737397649you get used to it, it's still better than the arrow keys. try playing XIM if you haven't, it's still better than controller. XIM being a faster paced game drives that home.https://xim.pages.dev/?mode=game
Back in my day you had to pay a sketchy chinese man to boost your characters and there was a 50/50 chance he just stole all of your shit. Can't believe you can just pay for this shit straight from the in-game store now.
>>737397739I know they are, and to be fair it's more friend-of-friends than direct friends, but over the years it's not something the public has hidden. I mean really you've seen open discussion about arena boosting forever haven't you.
>>737397729>or are missing pieces of their kit you get from the 30-50 job quests.Part of this group are healers who just heal because they're healersIt's funny because if they did those job quests, the game would tell them explicitly that this makes them shit healers.
>>737397578>Implying 99% troons aren't absolute peak normie Fag you literally got brainwashed. Absolute hylic.
>>737397660
Wasn't SE at some point going to rework the UI for XI a few years ago, even going as far as posting some screenshots of what it may look like then totally scrap the idea? Or did I completely dream that up? I could've sworn I tried to find something about it before and I couldn't, so I thought I did dream it up. Does anyone actually know?
>>737397883"trannies are normies" is kind of the endgame for internet mongs bending over backwards to keep the flame alive
>>737397941>Wasn't SE at some point going to rework the UI for XI a few years agoIt was a completely new remake by Nexon iirc. But yes, it got scrapped.
>>737387664Put a tripcode on. I can help!
>>737390248I remember playing BRD back in ShB. It was the absolute begrudging level to 80 job that I'd never play otherwise other than to level it.I'd play it correctly, back when DoTs would proc your shit, and never reach a 3 stack for minuet on the opener, sometimes not even reaching it before the song ended.Even now, with literal 80% proc rate on songs, I wish it was simply 100% because the amount of times where my damage suffers defies odds and statistics.I absolutely hate that fucking job. Just straight up X-Com styled bad luck as a job mechanic and it completely fucks your muscle memory too because you EXPECT to have a 3 stack at a certain point and then>lmao nothing for you!
>>737397367You're a retard. Even on high APM jobs, controller is perfectly viable. Actual skill issue
>>737397992No it wasn't that, I know about the whole game rework, I mean some dev posts on the official forums specifically about the controls/interface/buttons in game. Although if you have no idea then I definitely dreamt it up.
>>737397941They've said they want to redo the UI and actively worked on it but they tried to soft shut down the game for reasons no one understands and gave up working on everything. Another issue is they were running out of PS2 dev kits and people who knew how to work on the game. Good news though, the attention XI has been getting has caused them to put effort back into it again, they've overcome the devkit problem and might actually work on larger alterations again. They've already began making new content and talked about new zones.>They've had to lock THREE servers because of the massive influx of new players
>>737398152>>737397941https://www.bg-wiki.com/ffxi/UI_Redesign_/_New_Engine
>>737396674That was the tl;dr, so all I can really do is expand on it. He was livid because he considered his character ruined since his personal fantasy of an adventurer with only classes was forever tainted. SE support also told him they couldn't delete the job crystal from him nor would they do a rollback when he contacted them. Part of the reason for the post was some kind of attempt at community shaming SE for not granting his request. This was years ago, so I don't remember exactly why he even started the quest. He ranted for a couple pages, mostly him getting worked up by people telling him to just deal with it, and then "fuck you I'm quitting FFXIV is ruined for me now:As was already noted, prior to all this he was famous for posting his variation on "you don't pay my sub" while posting about how he would never use a job crystal. He was also salty that newer jobs didn't have starting classes, seeing it as him being cheated out of content.
>>737390248haha, lil bowcuckgo do your sissy dances and blow a flute hahahahaha
>>737398202>https://www.bg-wiki.com/ffxi/UI_Redesign_/_New_EngineThank you dude, I /kneel here it is from that page: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/36908-dev1156-New-User-InterfaceWhy the FUCK can't they revisit this now??
>Loved being Goon because it was the big slow melee slapper job>DT opener and 60s burst is literally approaching NIN levels of shit you need to press>Reaper despite having the Heat mechanic from MCH is now the slow jobThis is some fookin' bullshit. And ya I hate the absolute piss out of that debuff button on Raper.
>>737398390Huh? Goon got slower after it lost its 3 Nastrond charges in 7.1 tbf.
>>737398375As said, they might, they've been putting in a lot of work recently and in their recent interviews seem to have pretty big plans.
>>737396893I have a few that are joke characters I pull out now and then for lulz. Back before the ultra-simplification and devaluation of all crafting/desynthing I did have a crafting character with different specializations/desynths to expand the markets I could take advantage of.
>>737398170Sounds like you filthy gaijin should just try living in a country small enough where everyone is <30ms of latency from everyone else
>people want to play with friends>comparative placement makes people more goal orientated due to FOMO>devs make leveling easier in response>this breaks a lot of original design and progression milestones initially made by developers>original devs are long gone to tell them how new designers have fucked everything up>nobody likes leveling anymore>people will pay either in game currency or real money to streamline it as much as possibleI've given up on MMORPGs ever being fun again. The developers have zero fucking idea how to create an ecosystem that encourages meaningful player to player interaction outside of end game.
>>737398576the one mmo that was built up to accommodate high level players into low level content and has been revamping low level dungeons for 2 expansions is noob unfriendly?
>>737392579>>737394818Basically she is the ubermensch
>>737375343I encountered one of the fabled "Blizzard Wizards" a long time ago. He'd Blizzard his way back to full MP and then pop Flare. Over and over and over again. I also had a PLD in the very first FC I joined who slotted MND materia into anything he could because he wanted to be a "healer who could tank."
What are the highest APM jobs in XIV now anyway?
>>737398634I'm not gonna shittalk the game for it cause it doesn't matter too much to me in the end, but it's a shame that so many ARR dungeons got neutered by being added to duty support, while some fights were made better by being added as solo duties (Rhitahtyn, Lahabrea)
>>737372227I wouldn't buy WoW's, but I would buy FF14's if I were to start playing that game. It would save a lot of time and frustration at little cost. Across the 22 years of WoW, I've played for roughly 13 of those years. Having to get 10 levels in FF14 is more than enough for me to learn a given job.
>>737396694>>737396786>this game has a slow gcd and is boring as a result>we should also add an ability that makes you sit there for 10 seconds doing nothing
>>737398709There's some dungeons that I'm definitely not going to miss, the changes made to Copperhell are objectively good, but man it's sad to see every bit of creativity in dungeon design sanded down just to appease people who don't actually want to play an MMO.
>>737398506blizzard used to have talent and WoW was designed to run on 56k dialup modems as minimum specsGood networking is a lost art
>>737398836sovl....
>>737398390wtf are you talking aboutdragoon is a piece of shit now, it plays more like a tank than a dps, it requires zero skill and is in fact the easiest melee dps by a big margin and is impossible to fuck up.reaper has actual real fail conditions unlike drgNIN requires double the amount of apm during burst and it has real fail conditions
>>737372227leveling in MMOs is really fucking boringit's even worse in FFXIV due to how abilities are distributed from level 1 to the level cap. in other MMOs, people who boost are probably doing so for raiding purposes. at least these raidfags will put effort into learning their jobs. these people also exist in FFXIV but they're outnumbered by casual normalfags who do it to collect glamour, for RP purposes, or whatever the fuck. normalfags are content to take advantage of the hugbox that is FFXIV and let others carry them to level 100 before AFKing in Limsa Lominsa or whatever. So it's the game's fault for making leveling extremely fucking boring but they will never make more than a half-assed attempt to solve this because boosting is very profitable.
>>737398771You learn a skill that lets you throw spears from up above like Freya. Also that's what DRG does in Final Fantasy so just play another job if you don't like it.
>>737398805I think Aurum Vale is a good recent example of an atrocity.It's not even the mechanical side of it, but it just looks fucking shit now with those stone pits where pisspools used to be.
>>737397660Potassium for the popoto God
>>737372227>Why the fuck do people boost in mmos?Because Elon Musk, world's faggiest welfare queen, connected billions of brown monkeys to the internet.
>>737392579She's a turbo dyke that eats out her gf and has some kind of degenerate gum piercing to aid in it
>>737398771Yes, I do like an ability that actually makes me feel as if my character is leaping up in the sky, becoming taking less damage as a result of not being on the ground, being able to move based on my inputs, and then crashing down to do big damage like a Dragoon would.
Show me how YOU XIV it!
>>737399006>leveling in MMOs is really fucking boringYou don't like MMOs, please leave the genre and stop trying to infect existing games with your cancer.
>>737372227>>"Fuck off lmao this game is shit what a waste of money" says the White Mage as they exit the dungeonBased.
>>737398957>it requires zero skill and is in fact the easiest melee dps by a big marginI don't think many people will agree with you there.
>>737399010>>737399125there is already a job like this for people like you >>737393580
>>737397287>Sticky autismo sweat complains at his obvious betters from the shadows of his fetid wank cave, episode 9001You will kill yourself soon, and everyone who has ever met you will wish you had done it sooner.
>>737399226I think you're just being unnecessarily combative because you want attention, anon.Ergo this is my last (intentional) reply to you.
>>737399226What part of that SMN gameplay showcase resembles DRG spending a turn in the air and crashing down for double damage?
>>737399119>She's a turbo dyke that eats out her gfHot.
>>737399316very sapphic and totes valid, am i right, xis?
>>737372227The fact that RMT is even an thing in FFXIV blows my mind. It's so fucking easy to get everything legitimately, there's zero penalties for failing in the process, and it's the only MMO where money is basically worthless. I have no idea why anyone would pay anyone real money for anything.
>>737398170I don't recall the movement of other people stuttering that hard when I played WoW.Sure there was some rubber banding but not like that. That looked more like the recording was done at 5 FPS.
>>737399356i'm glad they adopted this term because its now very easy to avoid them
>>737399356I guess? I'm just a straight white unvaccinated boomer who remembers that it used to be normal for men to like when girls kissed girls. I haven't been brainwashed so I can still appreciate when girls kiss girls.
>>737398708I think Ninja and machinist were pretty high APM when I last played FFXIV over a year ago. Those jobs were big contributing factors in my decision to quit. They just made me seethe endlessly that Yoshit Piss refuses to give us east coast servers. Most of the US population is closer to the east coast so placing all 4 datacenters in California is retarded. I hate the stupid Japanese cocksuckers at Square Enix.
>>737374218Shame that game has exact zero depth to it. You'll never see four total strangers assembled at ass random work so smoothly through spamming the meme emote.
>>737399178Well they're retarded, it it literally warrior 2.0DRG DT is the reason I main swapped after maining DRG for 6 years. It's just a boring piece of shit.You press everything on CD and you build nothing or prepare anything, it has so few weaves you can fit everything inside 2 mins even with single weaving, it has almost no positionals now, Life surge can be used on 2 identical potency abilities and it's 40 seconds so strategy-use has been deleted. 1 fucking nastrond lmao, The job has almost no animation locks now, in fact it has only 2 jumps left, stardiver and DFD, the rest are fakes. HJ proper usage is meaningless, it is in fact the only job in the game that doesn't need the gauge, you can hide it and play the same. Zero nuance, strategy or management with eye of the dragon or eyes opening. The definition of a lobotomized job.Not to mention it looks like shit now, drakesbane is nonsense, rise of the dragon can't ever be seen on 90% of bosses because their model is huge, and starcross is a fake animation that just makes your character vanish.The only reason people play it is because its easy and strong, we saw the same thing in EW with SMN.
>>737399554>it has almost no positionals nowjej
>>737399503Thanks, I wasn't sure if some classes had more OGCDs removed like DRG did. I remember needing XIVAlexander to play Ninja because it made a huge difference in playability. It's super retarded that they refuse to have any servers outside of Cali.
>>737372227Because the leveling process of XIV the most boring dogshit time-wasting aspect.
>>737397813Those people would also skip those cutscenes which make fun of them, thus furthering the irony of the situation.
>>737398708A year out of date but should still be basically correct
>>737399356>>737399472zoom zooms got gigafried into hating lesbians by psyopslesbos(actually hot ones) used to be something sexy to gawk at for straight men before zoomies got brain fucked into troony loony culture
>thread was slow but decent>turns to shit when burgers get off workwew
any retards that has ever suggested super jump or Sky Shatter for pve are always the type of players that are afraid of their own shadow and has never even stepped into an extreme without sync down
>>737399368I feel like making gil is easy if you focus on the market during patches, if you're a completionist, or if you're really obsessed with something like deep dungeons or forays. I think I had like 500 million gil from achievement hunting by the time i quit the game. but the average person who does RMT doesn't like to do any of that content. they're into housing or glamour or some other bullshit, they don't want to spend hundreds of hours doing the same content that you might enjoy.
>>737399964valid af sis. my body is producing more estrogen as we speak just be talking about this
>>737399980>>thread was slow but decentthis nigger is straight lying
>>737399980i've been off of work for hours thoughin fact i'm going to bed soon
Sky Shatter for PvE is a kino idea. Based job fantasy.
>>737398360eh, it just doesn't hit the same if its not healer coded
It's over.
>>737399930Thanks you, I'll go with an AGI class(well not DNC) when I end up resubbing.
do mod game you're you?
>>737399964Yeah, it's really weird. I actually think it's Homoverse trannies too. I think this all began with Gayshit because apparently there's some schizo and they made it all about cucking or something. I just remember being in high school and my gf would make out with her best friend and I thought it was hot as fuck. She let me make out with her best friend too, but we never had an actual threesome, just messing around.
>>737400403That's not lesbian, that's bisexual.
>>737400196what do you mean? there's always places to find workdo people actually RP as service industry staff? jesus christ
>>737400458There's no such thing as lesbians, anon, just girls who hate men. And every girl is bisexual. I don't even know why you're getting into petty semantics now. It's still girls kissing girls. Men used to like that before zoomers got brainwashed.
>>737400478They doSame shit l ike people playing all those autism sims like ETS2Because all those jobs aren't miserable when you know assholes won't be tolerated and the computer does all the unpleasant tasks for you and nothing ever breaks.
>>737400519so you're jerking it to bisexual women, not lesbians
>>737400478Are they actually RPing as service industry staff or are they just e-whores?Because for literally anything with 18+ in the description I assume the latter.
>>737400478hey vizzers they're hiring black dealers
She won.
pyreno more once upon a pyretake hailfind your west and spread them wolf
>>737395536>tfw I'll have to play BLM for the alliance raid to see what best grill has to say about it
>>737400715The hat is going to turn into Zeromus...
A DRIFTING TENDERRRRRCOME RIDE HEROES RIIIIIIDEHER GALLEON SEVERRREDAWAY WITH THE TIIIIDE
>>737401097he didnt fly so good
>>737399142
>>737401176did they give this dumb bitch a motivation and some character development yet or is it still just "muahahahaha mortals my machinations are beyond your feeble comprehension" shit
>>737401286she got what she wanted and left. the story of midnight is actually over
>>737401176does she even do anything in the new expac?
>>737401356bold and bravemagnificent and inspiring
>>737401286>>737401430she went down into the leylines of the sunwell using the naaru darkwell poz
>>737401176jailor if female and has feet for redditors to goon to
>>737401557>the rainbowhole got pozzedNo...
>>737400603There's no such thing as lesbian women. Even if there was, a girl kissing or going down on another girl is the same thing whether they're bisexual (true) or lesbian (false)
>>737398576My belief is they just need to make it make your own fun. Let the free market of doing-it-for-free solve the issue. People can make houses - why not let them make dungeons? If you are afraid about liability purposes like someone making a swastika shaped dungeon with ovens (1) that's hilarious and (2) just make it clear you will ban people if they do perverted/no-no-thinking with their content. Obviously dungeons are not brick parcels like in wow but the principle is generally the same, you just make a toolkit that lets people decorate.XIV will never do that ever, not in a century. WOW might. >>737400196The chart looked fine to me as it seemed to be stabilizing (green presumably becoming mostly red by the end of the quarter). But then I saw the actual number breakdown and NA lost 160 thousand or so subscribers between now and Feb. Which is wild that when things are getting better and there's more optimism there's such a fucking collapse.
>>737401279lalafell
>>737402146>Which is wild that when things are getting better and there's more optimism there's such a fucking collapse.Perhaps it's the WoW players spreading negativity and they are the ones who left.
Can anyone give confirmation of whether or not the achievements on your Lodestone are now privated by default when making a new character? My Free Trial character whom I think I have never messed with has achievements private by default. I'm too lazy to make another character and get them to whatever level I need to have them at in order to become visible on the Lodestone.
>>737402171
>>737402374>Can anyone give confirmation of whether or not the achievements on your Lodestone are now privated by default when making a new character?All I can say is I never touched my profile and my achievements aren't visible.
>>737402638What is the thing the bottom left?>>737402639When did you make your character?
typically, which race has the actual worst players?
>>737402210I never buy those kinds of no-true-scotsmans where indigenous behavior is blamed on an outside conspiracy, not unless there's really rock solid information to prove it. The Wow player boogeyman claim begs the question why in all their time of being boogeyman (or boogeymen) they didn't leave in a huff earlier, why they'd stay subbed until now of all times to suddenly throw in the towel and quit.>>737402683Midna from twilight princess.
>>737372386you are actively ruining other people's experience with the game. you are lower than the people who say "nigger nigger nigger"
>>737402723male miqote dragoon is the night elf hunter of ffxivthough nowadays its probably viera
>>737402728>Midna from twilight princess.I meant bottom right, fuck.
excellent vibes, peak comfy. has it been raining more often recently or am i just noticing the rain now moreso?
>>737402858that is a lonely loli goddess with a crime prevention buzzer
>>737402912>crime prevention buzzerWhat does this mean
>>737402924Little girls in Japan have loud buzzers in case someone tries to snatch them.
>>737402924It's like a rape whistle.
>>737402723probably one of the normie centric races (miqo, au ra, midlander, maybe viera?). people running shit roes or hroths are usually pretty particular and play fairly well from personal experience. still experience revulsion upon encountering femhroths though
>>737402924https://youtu.be/Ci_zad39Uhw is where its from
>>737372227>"Fuck off lmao this game is shit what a waste of money"He's right, you know. Sure, he also sounds retarded, but broken clocks and all that.
>>737372896i've been thinking about trying out XIV for a while now but the entire monthly payment model always turns me off. Is there really no way for an mmo to be monetized via a one time purchase?
>>737402942>>737402975Damn...>>737403038I remember that. I just didn't know that they give rape buzzers to lolis in Japan.
>>737372227because mmos are for retards and you're one of them
>>737403110XIV has the most generous free trial of anything I've ever seen. You can play all the way up to and including Stormblood for free. They might even add Shadowbringers to the free trial in a few months, though I would understand if they didn't, because Shadowbringers is the best MSQ so if you can play it for free, there's not really a reason to subscribe. It might even convert some paying people to permanent free trial players if they want to get their XIV fix.
>>737403167they won't make shadowbringers part of the trial. the story having a good reputation and viera are subscription sellers
>>737402723Catboys, especially when they roam in packs. If you zone in and half your party is catboys, just leave.
>>737402723male au ra and male viera are the groomersmale miqo'te are the uwu sit on me mommy typesfemale roe, au ra miqo'te and viera are different forms of "gender confused" typeslalafell of any type tend to be edgy or zany or jaded retards
>>737402723Male Hroth healers are always absolute dogshit. I don’t think I’ve ever seen one that was even decent.
>>737403424male hroths/roes look wrong to me in anything that isn't a tank class. don't understand how they could run something like WHM that's running around in frilly robes and not feel embarrassed
>>737403774dress with metallic clown dye hours
>>737402728WoW players are easy to pinpoint in them fucking off around end of Endwalker to early-mid Dawntrail in light of them running through basically anything that interested them from ARR up to now
>>737403860doesn't take a lot of time to get through 4 raid fights, a criterion and maybe an ultimate
excellent thread, peak vaguehas he been vagueing more often recently or am i just noticing the thread now moreso?
>>737403995here he is, the genius who played through stormblood then decided aymeric throwing the eyes off the edge was dumb
>>737403907anon, true wowfags were in the gold saucer 24/7 for a few months before they even thought of finishing the msq, let alone raiding
>>737403907Seems to be part of the crash-outs that it wasn't a forever game with lightning fast updates, and they were in fact drudging through a decade of build-up
>>737404181what ziv needs is so easy it needs m+ to farm with weekly vault so you can keep grinding for your bis because the weekly vault gives crap and then repeat it next seasonpogging my brains out rn
>>737404332number....go up!
>>737404332I need to roll for loot crates and Y'shtola jpegs
>>737405114Apply to Square fr.Their eyes will turn into yen signs.
Eden was really lame looking back on it. memberberry layers. too much of it
>>737372386fippy, same with people who whine about cheaters. like bud, the cheaters and boosters don't care. they think it's hilarious that you're seething about it.
DO YOU PLAYFRONT LINES
>>737405684how...hylic
Vagueman was really vague looking back on it. vagueberry layers. too much of it
>>737405658That model for Garuda also looks kinda wierd.
>>737406253she has wings covering her boobs but of the 5 she's the closest to the original. probably because we fight her so often
>>737406349Her head looks kinda too small for her body.
>>737406419the regular garuda's head is like that too. funny how this version feels more nude than the normal one because of the wing coverings. think thats intentional?
>>737403774They all just wear modern slop.
>>737403774male roe wearing ARR ninja artifact or the heavensward vendor set is high comedy
>>737406667i've been taking screenshots of all my daily parties. i don't think modernslop is as ubiquitous as people claimits still an issue but i feel its overblown
i've been taking vagueshots of all my daily posts. i don't think modern /v/ is as ubiquitous as people claimits still an issue but i feel its overblown
>>737407186>>737407216one minute apart
>>737407186"Modernslop glamours" is the new "modbeasts" is the new "Limsa idlers" is the new "whatever newest set just released on the cash shop"
>>737407369Yes that's correct, they are all the same group of people. And?
>>737407447Same imaginary problem across all of them
>>737407469>imaginary
>>737407506>guy who purposefully goes into modbeast circles to save "evidence"Imaginary problem
My moment of self reflection about this was back in 2007 I was leveling a new guy and grouped up with some other guys who said they were new to the game. we were questing for a bit then i said i was going to do RFK and asked if they wanted to come while a lvl 60 cleared ti for us. they said no because it didnt "sound fun". Then i realized i was really just playing for getting to endgame asap, and not playing like i used to when i was new to the game where i would spend an entire weekend runnign around doing stuff out in the world just for fun like hide in bushes and ambush people or run to the dam in loch modan and parachute cloak off.Everything in the game had become a means to an end, and almost the entire game was just a chore i had to get out of the way. I realized I had become one of "those" people and was deeply embarrassed.
>>737407324it's not a minute dude it's shorter than thatcan u focus
>>737407561>guy who purposefully goes into modbeast circlesIf they're imaginary then how are there modbeast circles?
>>737407369i do believe that a lot of the complaints about modernslop do come from people who don't actually participate in anything. they idle alot and as such have time and opportunity to complain on outside communications like this one. modbeasts can be avoided by not downloading the sharing stuff. though anytime i see it i'm immediately reminded of the big mare banning and how they instantly shared space with 'pedos' once it was the only option. they're hypocritical perverts and worth avoidingmodernslop has a few excuses, in that its in universe and it fits S9. it is jarring in other content though, which is why i try to shape my glams to be setting plausible. but just straight up using AF armor is boring imo
>>737407591>chicken is higher fidelity than the character
>>737407591>if the problem is real, why do I choose to surround myself with it and then get upset I am surrounded by it
>modbeasts aren't real anon they can't hurt you
>>737407642show me how you XIV it!
>>737407604Modernslop complaining seems like it's lack of ammunition against any other clique or subculture in FFXIV since everybody already knows about the modbeast Second Life migrants and it's been like fifteen years since anybody was shocked or weirded out by that baroque alt-goth kind of vibeModern glamours are also notoriously pretty unpopular unless it's somebody wearing them ironically or it's the idol t-shirts, low effort stuff. Nobody walks around in the PvP sets for example, though part of that is how samey they are and how you can get something really similar just from doing the Vanguard dungeon if you were so inclined
>>737400909playing BLM for first run is good because it forces you to learn and respect the mechanics in order to maintain uptime
>>737400196>Lucky BanchoThat shit hasn't been reliable since Endwalker. The numbers are probably far lower and that's a good thing since every shit decision that's made the game worse has been a direct result of the game attaining mass popularity with normies.
>>737405684>Parking my car wrong might inconvenience everyone else, but have you considered that I find it funny?
>>737407641>they're not there if you just close your eyes and pretend they aren't!
>>737407642I actually had a look at this and the number of people who downloaded it is triple-digit (628 downloads), out of a scene of tens of thousands of modders. Fugly character aside and what you're obviously fixated on over the actual mod which is a dress replacement, this is a niche in a niche to get one's nipples twisted over. Proportionally/demographically, these guys don't exist.
>>737407835>Fugly character aside and what you're obviously fixated on over the actual mod which is a dress replacementNo the point of the picture is the beast wearing the dress.
>>737407862Yes that is what I said. The mod itself is a dress replacement, anon is fixated on the thing wearing the dress, and losing his own claim that he's not immersing himself in a super niche subculture to get mad about it on purpose.
>>737400478I have a friend who used to RP as a bartender at a homosexual gay faggot club in Shirogane. I asked him why he did it once when he constantly bitched about his irl job as a server, which is barely different. He responded with anger.
Can viera wear law's order helms yet?
>>737407829Seeing that shit is 100% your choice, you wouldn't see it if you weren't paired with them.
>>737408096>join public syncshell>everyone is a hideous modbeast>HOW COULD THIS BE HAPPENING TO ME
>>737407727so it is an issue, just a tiny one.slutslop feels more ubiqutious, and there's likewise several jobs that can get away with it. is it more or less 'immersion ruining' to have a catgirl in a bikini versus one of the arcadion sets? or do swimsuits fall under modernslop?
>>737408163Swimsuits theoretically should completely fall under modernslop but those tend to get a pass because there's tits on display, especially that most recent swimsuit set with the gacha shawl on the top
>>737408201well you see npcs wearing them. so while its not out of bounds as far as setting, its still jarring to see them in dungeons and such
>>737408096They still exist beside me and exert an influence on the game and my experience with the game.
>>737408302close the syncshell sis
>>737408328That doesn't make them go away, it lets you pretend they aren't there.
>>737407812How exactly does someone cheating/boosting in FFXIV inconvenience you? Unless you're a dev or a huge faggot who unironically cares about FF Logs, it affects you in no way shape or form whatsoever.
Test
>>737372227Gives them more time to play other games.
MMOs are for losers who have no lives.
>>737408380>its not happening>ok it is happening but not often>it doesn't affect you why do you even care
>>737408518>>737408559hmmm i wonder if these posts have anything to do with eachother
>>737408593Nothing around you is real.You're alone.Community does not matter in a community centric game.Atomize yourself.The strangers encroaching upon your home are not a problem.It's not your home.
>>737408669>stop cheating in video games>immediately goes to existential dread and despairyou really, REALLY don't like your cheating questioned do you
>>737408860Cheating doesn't affect you.You play alone.Increase your izzat.The cheaters aren't real.The cheaters have always been here.
>>737372227Zoomers want all of the reward for none of the effort, they can only think in the end result and not the journey
>>737408982you could git gud at the game with less effort than you trying to justify yourself :)
>>737372227>the whole deal of an mmo is the dungeons and classes increase in complexity over time.anons say the dungeons in fxiv are shit tho
>>737409094MMO dungeons in general are kinda shit
>>737409167that sucks. i like dungeons, recently i have been playing some dungeon crawlers like labyrinth of refrain, which games do you recommend with really rockstar dungeons?
>>737402869https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpBFOJ3R0M4
>>737409253For actual dungeon-crawling I'd probably play Binding of Isaac, Zelda games, Dark Souls/Elden Ring, Terraria
>>737409253Etrian Odyssey
>>737374768>>737372227Tell them how to improve after the first boss, check to see if they did on the second. If they refuse and continue to refuse, it's your responsibility to kick them from the party, for the good of the game.Don't let them progress through story dungeons if they're unwilling to even learn the basic shit.
>>737409324Alternatively, just leave. A 30 minute time out is preferable to enabling these retards and gives the other 2 guys a free out.
>>737409410this. I treat it as a gift to the rest of the group to not have to suffer along with the other retard
>>737409546Cute kino
>>737409290>zelda gamesi fucking hate shrines and the "main dungeons" are a joke>dark soulsyeah those can have good dungeons, i liked sen's fortress and the er dlc dungeons>terraria/boiaren't those procgenslop, isn't binding of isaac just some sort of hades-like? also the aesthetic is pretty gross>>737409313i played a bit of eo4 on emulator but it's clunky. i'm guessing it's best on DS?
>>737409324>make sure new players experience the full brunt of your insecure narcissistic injury when they don't give you your own way in a dungeon>this will ensure the game is healthy and thrivingCluster B personality disorders are a trip.
>>737410503Terraria has no set world design, the process of caving and mining is pretty decent dungeon-crawling along with the actual Dungeon and Temple areaesBoI is a roguelike patterned after Zelda 1 and twinstick sdhooters, the aesthetic is gross because Edmund McMillen is a manchild
>>737410503>i played a bit of eo4 on emulator but it's clunky. i'm guessing it's best on DS?Just play the remasters on steam.
>>737410546is eo4 on steam?
>>737410559Sadly not.
>>737372227>why not make them do a mandatory tutorial first?Really there needs to be job tutorials for jobs that start at high levels too.
>>737410541i don't think it's a roguelike.i did enjoy ToME, i should try some more roguelikes like Qud but they are pretty troublesome to get into. fun once you do, but after playing so many modern games i'm spoiled at games with a learning curve. still haven't played wizardry 8 even though i have it
>>737410541>the aesthetic is gross because Edmund McMillen is a manchildNo one actually thinks gaudy, overdesigned FFXIV aesthetic looks good, right?I've never seen characters that looked as obviously stupid as they do in Final Fantasy games.
>>737410715t.
>>737410715>gaudy, overdesigned FFXIV aesthetic
>>737403110>>737403167Should be noted though as soon as you pay you have to keep paying, you can't just go back to doing only older content for free
>>737410745Why do FFXIV players deflect to unrelated games that no one plays instead of addressing what anyone says to them?
>>737410715>>No one actually thinks gaudy, overdesigned FFXIV aesthetic looks good, right?i'm the guy asking about dungeons and although i don't play ffxiv, i think it looks great. at least, the screenshots anons post looks really good. i could give or take the weird pudgy lolis though
>>737410746Tower shields are dumb shrunk down to a heater shield's size
>>737410746Yes, that's correct.
>>737410796>unrelated games that no one playsisn't this their current #1 most played competitor and (arguably) the best known title in gaming of all time? at least, it was like that for a long time, dunno about the last year or two
>>737372227Grind sucks
>>737410861note the complaining about unrelated games while simultaneously putting on the "outsider looking in" airs. he is a master at fooling nobody
>>737410861Both WoW and Old School Runescape have significantly more players than FFXIV. But the thread isn't about those games. I wasn't talking about those games. So why bring it up? Do you not know how conversations work? Do you just randomly start talking about basketball in threads and conversations about fly fishing? How socially retarded are you that you can't take figure out how to do the 2nd step of a conversation?
>>737372227I say this as a active MMO player and FFXIV sub. MMO mechanics and design ideas are archaic. To any sensible person who doesn't like the self torture of "Die to learn" or "watch a youtube video first", MMO's would seem like gay bullshit made to cater to weirdos, as they are. Especially if you're far from a data center or your ISP doesn't play friendly with the ping path to some shit. You really get fucked hard on some boss windups.
>>737410972>MMO mechanics and design ideas are archaic. You're supposed to make arguments in support of your hypothesis, not just assert the hypothesis.
>>737410960>Old School RunescapeCouldn't lie harder if you tried, citing 137k players now and I'll be generous and say only a third of those are bots. 91k real people
>>737410796>>>>>unrelatedMost XIV threads on /v/ are just WoW players shitposting for hours because their game isn't good.
Instances ruined MMOs in general. Play together, or don't charge me a sub-fee to bro-op with 3-7 others.
>>737409094Most people I've talked to say they're at least better than WoW's dungeons
>>737411070FFXIV tends to do a much better job in presentation and music
>>737410960>why bring it upwell, isn't it only natural?it's like you are asking why do people mention dark souls in a soulslike thread. of course it's brought up.it would be weird to talk about an obscure mmo in a wow thread. it would be like those guys who bring up, say, wotr, in bg3 threads. but of course wow comes up in any mmo thread, it's the "gold standard" so to speak. (note that i'm not saying it's better: i am saying that it is genre-defining)>how socially retarded this is honestly a very ordinary thing to do socially, i think the autistic one is you. it's all right to get mad that people always bring up the big title in your niche thread but it's not all right to feign confusion and it's lolretard to actually be confused
>>737410746>posts set from 13 years agohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdTEzmaSKLA
>>737411038>citing 137k players nowWhy do FFXIV players struggle to grasp really simple differences between types of player metrics? This is like 4th grade level statistical analysis that you're failing on the first step.
>737411150man who is realizing just how wrong he actually was
>>737411124>this is honestly a very ordinary thing to do sociallyNo it isn't. Mentally healthy people are able to discuss a topic without engaging in manipulative deflection. This isn't controversial.
>>737411070share some maps?
>>737411197and is the manipulative deflection in the room with us right now?take your meds schizo bro, nobody has it out for you
>>737411197Why are you policing XIV threads for "deflection" to WoW? That doesn't even make any sense.
>>737411257Give you three guesses why he's taking offense to a WoW comparison and the first two don't count
>>737411229I didn't say anyone had it out for me. I said you deflected manipulatively. It's most likely because you're a slimy coward, not because you're vindictive.
>>737411201No? It's what I've heard, I don't know shit about FFXIV from a personal standpoint
>>737411284well it wasn't my post in the first place. i'm checking the thread because i asked about games with good dungeons.and i thought it was perfectly reasonable for someone to bring up wow in a ffxiv thread.but it was probably a mistake to engage with a guy who has delusions and/or schizophrenia. i won't reply again.
>>737411281I don't play WoW, but it's interesting that you suggested I'm paranoid and have it out for you, when you're imagining ghosts of WoW players coming to your thread to persecute you. It's so painfully insecure and projective.How is being a chronic victim working out for you, anyway? Seems miserable.
>>737411197Ironically, it's kinda autistic to only be able to focus on one topic and sperg out when comparisons are brought up
>>737411421you are doing me a manipulative deflection
>>737411469You are very weak willed if you feel manipulated right now
>>737411197>>737411374Actually, I just reread the OP. The OP greentexts a story from XIX, but it mentions WoW and is about "MMOs". Moreover, the term "boosting" is used, which is a term that exists directly because of WoW's paid "boosts" to level cap. Additionally, "boosting" in XIV was practically unheard of until the WoW exodus, after which it became extremely common to encounter.
>>737411421That's not what happened, though, obviously. It was a bad faith engagement using a strawman they made up. Mentally healthy people don't make up lies about someone else's position in a conversation. That sort of behavior is inherently anti-social, and more about the person wanting cheap and petulant 'domination" over the air than it is related to actually talking about anything.It almost universally comes from people who have nothing interesting say.
>this is WoW now
>>737411578>Mentally healthy people don't make up lies about someone else's position in a conversation>I'm the only sane person on this planetAnon, I have bad news..
>>737411732You're making up a strawman again. You really don't know how to communicate without being dishonest and manipulative, do you? This is just your whole brain.
>>737411593Sadly this is the fate of every successful MMORPGWomen are drawn to MMORPGs more than any other genre bar for amazingly casual ones (Candy Crush shit), and as soon as women are in a game, the transtrending predators follow.
>>737411826Very few women play WoW though. At least not anymore.
>>737411804>againAnon still thinks everyone against him is a hive mind or single personGet some help dude
>>737411804Logical fallacies aren't supposed to be shouted out like Harry Potter spells
>>737411857Okay, so multiple FFXIV players are currently in the thread being deflective brick walls who do everything they can to divert attention from FFXIV onto *literally anything else* so that they never have to even try to understand criticisms that make them feel uncomfortable.Like cowards lol
>>737412085
>>737411913Why do you keep using them then? I wouldn't have to address them if you didn't keep using them.Maybe try communicating honestly. Why is that so crazy for me to suggest?
>>737372386>just accept my shitty behavior that makes everything worse broYou dont deserve to breathe the same oxygen that i do
>>737411913>the bad guy is the person acknowledging and criticizing the manipulation>not the person doing the manipulationcrazy making stuff right here.
>>737412224>you're manipulating me!!!!!!grown-ass man
>>737412245>so stupid he thinks manipulation is an imaginary conceptahahah. american literacy in action.
The "anti-manipulator" has successfully manipulated the conversation away from the criticism of WoW, which is what is he accusing everyone else of doing. Just something I noticed.
>>737412245I didn't say you were good at being manipulative, or that you manipulated me.What you did manipulate is the conversation into being about anything other than the criticism I made of your shitty game. That doesn't mean you tricked me, it just means you're an insufferable coward..
>appeal to evidence fallacy
>>737412440he did it with all the grace of a bull elephant, considering i still think WoW is called that because i see it and say "wow!" and keep moving
>>737372227The entry bar is lowered so that retarded apes can join in whenever. It's partially the dev's fault for even adding the level/story boosts to begin with.
>>737410521>>make sure new playersNew players shouldn't be lvl91 in the newest expansion's first dungeon.
>>737394262This is the correct way to play the game, by the way
>>737394520>turn off when you see a huge incoming AoE damage castyou have high expectations of the average player
I am moderately excited for Fan Fest shenanigans
>>737414220I will glady die every time and blame the healer before losing a single second of blood for blood.
>Lose 163k characters from the game in two months>A big chunk of that is from the JP DCs who have been notoriously stable for years all of a sudden a massive 50k drop from JP>"Losing is not an option" t-shirt on YoshiPThey're in the shit now. They better come out with the big guns at Fanfest or they're in real deep shit.
>>737414085I don't remember what the AoE rotation was in Shadowbringers, but he should definitely be using Freeze instead of Blizzard, and the Blizzard IV is a bit weird but we'll just give him the benefit of the doubt and say it was single target.
>>737393580Thanks now I know to never comm a SMN ever again.
>>737414405>>Lose 163k characters from the game in two monthsWhere does this made up figure come from?
>>737414405
>>737414619This isn't pleddit.
>>737414457>>737414619-163k in two months.
>>737414619Oof you know someone is salty when they have to archive post but don't show the entire archival result. >>737414969
did you expect a serious response to your seethe? you do it for free. heat it up.
You really can tell when fanfest is approaching.
>>737415092>>737415202We really out there
>>737372227>devs might see years of content as off putting to potential new customersI don't understand people
>>737415274Wow did irreversible damage to the genre. Simple as.
