Forgotten Hollow is finally available in the Closed Test!
People seem to have (not surprisingly) already lost interested in the classic world test. There just isn't any real content to do, even with the new area since it's just a couple extra maps to grind on and a zombie mushmom reskin
Man, I can't wait til the full release.The fucking nostalgia of leveling up and random people saying grats
>>737388073The official release will only have Victoria Island and Ossyria
>>737388398Ignore the schizo, he's mentally ill.
>>737386259>f/p getting outdamaged and outfarmed by clericTop kek.
Madwolf the tranny: >>737388073
I was initially excited for classic world but I think all the weirdness in these threads has unironically diminished my interest in it.
>>737388398Ossyria isn't even in at launch for whatever reason.We really need to know the state of 3rd job because the games trajectory is determined by how they handle/remove Holy Symbol
/msg/ here we hate the classics
>>737390045At this point I think removing Holy Symbol is the only solutionI don't want the double client HS mule meta again
classic needs dailies/weeklies otherwise no one will stick around people need some incentive to keep logging in once they're done grinding
Classic beta needs me or else it will eos in mere days
>>737389367Moron, that's Royalsfag.
>>737388073>1 week closed beta test that ends in 2 days>"yeah people have lost interest"What are you expecting people to be doing?
I'm honestly surprised they didn't do a larger wave to coincide with the new area today.But hey whatever, I got mine and will happily flex on fags who didn't participate in the beta.
>fart eastare the spelling errors from the original version too?
>>737390829
>>737390945Yup pretty much.It causes unimaginable seethe especially to whales who didn't buy a key (for some reason) and didn't get in. And I live for that pointless stupid shit. It brightens up my day because I've got nothing else.
>>737391005Kek fair enough
>>737390923I remember seeing Fart east in very early versions.
>>737390923It's using one of the earliest sources from mapleSEA (as asiasoft is the only company that had their own staff doing work at that point, and nexon didn't keep the old sources or something?) so a lot of engrish is to be expected going forward too.
>>737391589On 1 hand this means we're probably getting MapleSEA content again, on the other that means we're going to get a lot more typos/oddities in the text.
bACK to /msg/ sis
>>737386259I don't recognize this map, I thought it was Classic world?Where is this?
>>737392819Its a new area they added to classic
>>737390045holy symbol was always a stupid idea. just do 2x exp weekends and call it there.
>>737386259>grinding to 50 in a wiped closed test in one of the grindiest games in history, only to do it again mere weeks latermaple players are truly a different species of human
>>737386259I hope it'll be properly managed (lol) so I can at least know that my characters aren't getting deleted & servers shut down 2 years later. We're probably stuck with Legends & Royals til the end of time unless Nexon puts some real effort into this.
>>737393557capping this so when the game is still alive i can make fun of u in 2 years
>>737393721I'm going to be happy to be wrong anon, I like it when my multiplayer games don't shut down abruptly in 1-2 years. It just happens that most of these things get auto deleted when a company doesn't see the game pulling $99999999/monthly revenue
>>737388073Or, hear me out.It's a fucking test that ran for a week and no one wants to sink real time into something being wiped.I got my cosmetics and I will dedicate my tism to the real game.
Staves or Wands?
Inkwell said they are working on 3rd job at launch
>>737394095mace
>>737394159inkwell says so much but delivers jack shit
>>737394354We live in the age of small, multibillion indie companies anon. You can't expect much
>>737394735gms team may as well be indie
>>737386259Inkwell and Nemi drop into the game just to basically say "yeah this isn't even close to being done btw" twice a day. I have no idea what's taking these retards so long. My only guess is Nexon told them it has to wait until after GMS's summer update, so they're sitting around twiddling their thumbs with no clue how to fill the space between now and then like "uhh maybe we'll add pirates? maybe third job??? do we have time to just throw in orbis maybe?" Zero direction whatsoever and it's flying in the face of the marketing which keeps running hype cycles only to have no tangible dates or events to look forward to. This shit is so mismanaged and it's extra annoying because I had a ton of fun playing the closed test and I hate that there's so much uncertainty and negativity still in the game's future due to terrible management. Fuck, I hate nexon.
>>737395624Cry more idiot. Not everyone lives for this shit like you do, lowlife.
>>737395624Hell you'd think they maybe want classic players to play modern after the test but nah they don't want that either cause there's no hyper burn in the anniversary events coming up so they don't even have the decency to throw new players a bone.Nexon NA is genuinely just straight up incompetent.
i played some maple got me ring did some kpqs but now i need to do other stuffi hope i can reach second job before the beta ends but it depends on how much time i'll have available
Should my neighbor be in classic?
>>737395624>So they're sitting around twiddling their thumbs with no clue how to fill the space between now and thenThere's plenty of shit that needs to be fixed. CBT is fun but it is nowhere near what it should be like at launch. Lots needs fixing.> flying in the face of the marketing which keeps running hype cycles Is it though?>I hate that there's so much uncertainty and negativity still in the game's future due to terrible management. Fuck, I hate nexon.Just be patient OCD Anon. Play some other game(s).
>>737396495I've seen maybe a dozen noteworthy bugs mentioned in the feedback discord channel, most people are just bitching about balance or asking for ultra specific dumb shit that most people won't notice or care about. Most of those bugs shouldn't take long to fix for a competent dev team eg fixing collision on certain platforms so you don't fall through it, correcting the AP bug on job advance, etc.>Is it though?We're grading on a curve since the target audience is literally begging to play this game so pretty much anything they do will generate hype, but running an epic limited time invite-only test then walking around ingame going "idk we'll release it, like, eventually" is extremely conflicting.>Just be patient OCD Anon. Play some other game(s).That isn't what OCD means, but this isn't even a "grr I'm impatient I wanna play now" because psevers are right there and it's not like I'm bothering with those. I signed up for the beta on a whim, surprisingly got in, had a ton of fun, and now I'm looking around wondering when I'll get to actually get to play the real game and I see the devs talking wishy washy like they don't even know when it's going to come out or what content will be there at launch or how many more tests they're going to run. Imagine if classic WoW or OSRS was run like this, people would throw shitfits. It's objectively poorly managed.
>>737396850They can barely even run the real maplestory, now they have double the work needing to manage two separate games. It's going to be a shitfest.
I decided to watch that modernfag video someone posted in the last thread and now I hate modernfags even more than beforeHe unironically asked for a linear main quest that starts in Lith Harbor at level 10 and only finishes when you hit level 30 because the game was too open and he didn't know what to doThis is the type of people who got a code and I didn't, yes I am seething, yes I am mad, fuck you
Thoughts on Forgotten Hollow?
>>737397238Yeah that video was fucking retarded, dude was asking for basically an in-game wiki to be added. Is modern MS really that streamlined? GMS players are a different breed.
>>737397316the music is nice and i like that visually it's sort of a mix of sleepywood and ellinniai'm too low level to grind there or do the quests so can't say more than that
>>737397238He literally didn't say that, what's wrong with quests being used to teach people how to play the game? Yeou was fantastic because of the fact they heavily buffed quests allowing that to be a viable way to progress, meanwhile classic world has no alternatives to just grinding because of how dogshit quests and pqs are.>>737397393So why is it bad that game has info when you are just going to google it anyway? What does it detract from the game to have a book that tells you that a stump can be found in perion in a elegant and immersive way compared to >HURRR JUST GO TO THIS VIBE CODED DATABASE WEBSITEThere's a reason why over 90% of OSRS players use runelite for the exact same fucking reason, because it lets them see that information in game instead of needing to have the wiki open at all times while playing.
>>737397563>So why is it bad that game has info when you are just going to google it anyway?Who says I'm googling it, retard? If you don't know something, just ask another player. MMOs used to be social experiences, not a single player game with the occasional person running around where you keep a wiki on the 2nd monitor at all times so you can play as efficiently as possible with as little human interaction as necessary. Go play GMS if you want to follow an ingame flowchart for an entire character's lifespan.
>>737397683And classic world isn't going to be that social experience you looking for either because 99% of your interactions are going to be>j ptand then you either get invited and grind as if you are playing solo, or you don't get invited and continue on as if nothing changed. You are genuinely delusional if you think people will play the game as if they are mentally inbred babies without access to the internet because they won't. Nobody is doing KPQ in the test because it's complete dogshit and a waste of time to do that, despite in the original maplestory back in the day people would just spam KPQ. Chances are you will also be min max playing as efficiently as possible too despite how much you cry about how much you hate it, you literally can't avoid it anymore.
No Aran, no play.
Is the hype dead?
>>737397874Way to expose yourself for not having played the test. If people want to walk around and play the game like it's iron man, they can feel free to. Putting a barrier between "I don't know this information" and "I can learn this information by myself without interacting with anyone in this online social video game" is objectively a good thing. Dropping the wiki into the game means everyone would just walk around dead silent like an autist. You know, like OSRS players.
>>737397918Squirrel Girl > Galactica
>>737397967Have you played it? Because I just told you exactly how people played the test, they go into the map that they found online would be good to grind at for their level, they type j>pt in the chat and then they get invited and then they grind as if they are playing solo, never stopping to socialize with anyone.Again, you are completely delusional if you think that fantasy world of yours is how people will play the game.
>>737398097um when you are there to grind you are there to grindsure, pqs are better for getting to know people, but even from map grinding you'll recognise players and if you see them again or in a town you'll say hi
>>737398260cc plz
>>737398097Yes I have, which is why I know you're full of shit because I've seen people party up and shoot the shit with total strangers. I dragged a friend to kpq even though he doesn't know how to play, told him to ask how to play, and the other two helped him. Half of the playtest's participants all crowd around whatever city GMs are running events in and talk to each other. Entire conversations play out over smegas (not always a good thing since I've seen some political shit in there from time to time). Go to HHG1, tons of players are chatting there constantly.Post proof you got into the test unironically right now. I straight up don't believe you got in. If you did, you're probably just walking around never talking to anyone and acting like it's everyone else's problem that nobody interacts with you.
>>737398306you may play private servers if you wish to experience this in the modern day
>>737398306never cc
>>737395624Inkwell+nemi is getting fired for sure. Modern players in the maple subreddit are seething that inkwell is ignoring modern for Classic. Classic subreddit is seething that nothing is confirmed and up in the air. It's a big fucking mess. It feels like Classic might get canceled at this point if it's making modern players drop the game.
>>737397563>He literally didn't say thatHe literally did, retard>give me a story quest that keeps you on rails until level 30This is a quote straight from the video, dumbass
>>737398306>don't cc>faggot logs out and brings his high lvl character in and aoe kills everything out of grief
>>737390945professional ebay browser
>>737386259you ugly
>>737398472I feel like Inkwell is getting insanely overconfident from how much Nexon Korea praises his "hyperlocalization" shit despite the fact most GMS players fucking despise him due to how much shit he promises then just completely underdelivers and pretends like he fixed everything. He promises to improve communication but then goes completely silent for half a year? The fucking stunt he pulled saying they could release classic now but that they won't? Literally everything about Ride or Die like the completely out of touch temp badge?People should know that Inkwell is the guy that was in charge when the Big Bang update released, he is not your friend and he doesn't know what is good for classic maple (or modern maple) at all.
>>737398932it's funny seeing autistic fucktards like you writing all these essays about mushroom game as if we all care that deeply
>>737388073Maplestory was always about grinding mobs. No raids, no dungeons, mindless potion spam. All of this was fueled by pure nostalgia from a bunch of fucking retards. It's over.
>>737398097objectively funny reading this considering i just asked some random people where the new chat ring quest is and they told me where to go, then when i got there i found people who set up shops giving directions on where to go. you're such a sad nigger sitting in these threads dooming and you didn't even get into the test LOL
>>737399083Thank you. That's how I felt about it even 21 years ago.
>>737399172Maybe you should commit suicide, madwolf.
>>737399242I'm not madwolf though. I don't even know what that is.
Does anyone here have a beta key to give away?
>>737399491Don't bother because the closed server is gonna... close very soon. Just wait till it's fully released.
>>737398932My confidence in the project dropped a lot after seeing the current state of the game's balance. It somehow seems WORSE than it was in the first tests last year. I'd trust private server devs more than the current team to put out a quality product.
>>737399491The test is pretty much over, bro
>>737394159release 2028 confirmed
Why did they give out cosmetics for a CLOSED beta test where they gave away most of the codes to resellers who botted emails?
>>737399625Mapleland 2.0 just looks significantly more polished and content rich in comparison to classic world, but us filthy gaijins aren't allowed to play it.
I want them to add Pirates. I want to play Buccaneer.
>>737394159>Inkwell saysHis words mean nothing I think he's just a figurehead that can't do much and GMS is just the short bus where he gets to a mini king.>they are working on 3rd job at launchRemove Holy Symbol or your fucking game is dead after 4th job.
>>737399164This.I am excited for Classic and enjoying spergo desperately trying to convince ppl that its bad (and failing)
Closed Beta ends on April 23rd, from what I've heard (please correct me if I"m wrong).I did not get a chance to play, but I've been watching videos and reading reddit comments and I have a few takeaways.Nexon still doesn't know WTF they're doing. The huge success of the original 2005 Maplestory was mostly due to luck (and the work of a few talented designers/musicians). Maybe they will get lucky again and MSCW will be great. But I'm not getting my hopes up.Things are still in flux, nothing has been set in stone. This is directly related to Point #1, that Nexon doesn't know WTF they're doing. Therefore when Open Beta comes, expect many more changes and monkeying around with balancing and skills and so on.Due to the much poorer state of the game than many of us expected, especially from Inkwell's statement during Maplecon that the game is ready to ship NOW, I do not expect a full release any time soon. December 2026 would be my guess.Please feel free to add any takeaways you have from this experience.
>>737400447Not having Ossyria at launch is an extremely worrying prospect about how the game is being handled
>>737398664That or call my bishop, i/l or f/p archmage friend to nuke the map
>>737400481they're clearly focusing more on victoria island and it's not intended to be 1:1 with classic maplestory
>>737400447There won't be an open beta you stupid idiot
i barely had enough time to get to level 15 and get the ring.i am the person who got a code instead of you.it is not unlikely that ludibrium will be released before i get to a high enough level to lpq.
>>737400570What focus? Making people level past LPQ before ludi gets added? Grindy games need their carrot and stick to keep people interested and yet there is no carrot or even a stick if the game launches with victoria island only.
>>737400681guess you're relieved to not have a beta key then
>>737400570There is a necessity for new/original content for PPBB nobody except giga-retarded purists would disagree with. But GMS launched with Ossyria, Zakum came a little bit later. The assets for Orbis and El Nath are already there, and guild creation is in Orbis.>>737400681PQs seemingly don't have level caps but it would be gay to not get Ludibrium and Aqua Road soon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6LIFBVhObQIn my restless dreams, I hear that town... soon... home...
>>737400747sure but if victoria island is the focus i don't see why it's a problem if orbis and el nath come laterthere will almost certainly be a forgotten hollow pq and a big balrog fight
>>737388073Your $50,000 account will be worthless in 3 months. GMS team will fully abandon numaple. Cope and seethe
>>737400951>One of the most defining/iconic things about the very early Maple era was the Ellinia ship to Orbis and back.>Guilds were made in Orbis>Orbis Tower as a whole>El Nath being the gateway to 3rd job, let alone mid-higher level grinding areasVictoria Island being given more focus is fine, but how are they not able to have another region with 99.99% reused assets already ready? I get they probably had to change something through the backend but it doesn't inspire hope in how they'll handle the game. Since right now it's looking more barren than GMS at launch.Forgotten Hollow is nice, but that alone isn't going to be enough for the very little content at launch. It's not like Orbis/El Nath with Victoria Island is even a lot of content to begin with either, but it would have been the bare minimum for GMS standards.
>>737401092Nah, some modernfags just aren't ready for Classic
>>737397393>Is modern MS really that streamlined?I played it during a hyper burn event a year ago; the game was throwing me all over the world every 20 minutes into a new quest chain before teleporting me to the next.I did find it hilarious how none of my jobs cutscenes worked because they were hosted on youtube and got deleted, so i had no fucking clue what the story actually was.For a game that's about 50~ gigs they sure did try to "optimize" it by making dogshit low res textures on a flat world plane and cop out on shit like that.
Bros the +30 year old expired azn hags are just around the corner!
>>737401204Simple: keeping the carrot in front of the audience.Contrary to what you doomers are screaming about, most people are happy with the beta in it's current state. The main problem is accuracy, but if that was fixed, ppl would be happy for launch to go ahead.3rd job, Orbis and ludibrium is something to be excited about in the future. This is what makes true classic far better than trash like Royals. There's always something to look forward to, and it won't just be an endless loop.
>>737397393Modern maplestory is unironically the worst video game I have played in the last 5 years. It is really really really really really bad.
>>737401508>most people are happymost people already stopped playing
He's right, you know.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5g9YgZMxFn4
>>737401567No that's just your headcanon. Obviously not as packed as launch day but the interest is absolutely there and still ovetching about not getting in.I get that you are a schizo and you're desperate for Classic to fail, but that ain't happening. The hype is real.
>>737401662He's just not the target demographic.
>>737399164Get to level 50 first before you can talk, ebaykid.
>>737395765Right, we should be on 4chan complaining about his post instead, assburgers
>>737401662This video is basically him realizing Classic isn't for him
>>737402143>I like this game but these small things could be improved>UHH ACTUALLY THAT MEANS THE ENTIRE GAME ISN'T FOR YOU BECAUSE UHHHH
>>737401662The majority of the comments are roasting him for his shitty take, lmao
>>737402102There is nothing wrong with correctly labeling you an idiot
>>737402404I'm not the anon you were quoting, corporate bootlicking subhuman.
>>737402447There is nothing wrong with correctly labeling you what you are: an idiot.
>>737402263>hates losing EXP when dying>wants a streamlined story quest>wants the game to tell him where to train next>doesn't want to explore the maps>wants Black Mage shit>complains about the maps being too big and confusing>expects Blessing of the Fairy to be added even though everyone hates itHe doesn't understand this game on a fundamental level, he wants a streamlined and optimal route that shoots him to end game in the most efficient way possible, which is not what classic was about
>>737400681>Making people level past LPQ before ludi gets added?You're in control of your buttons. If you want to giga grind you can. Or you can make a new character while waiting or... take a break until the next update. No one is making you no life grind the first month so you hit level 80 before you even get Orbis. That's all on you.
What in the world is Forgotten Hollow? I don't remember this at all. Everything I'm looking says it existed in the original version but when in the world was that? A bit before BB?
>>737402727forgotten hollow is new, it's a high level area between ellinia and sleepywood
So do we like Forgotten Hollow?
>>737402807It's a nice area even if it doesn't quite capture the original artstyle of maps and music, it's main fault is that it's not quite sufficient enough at the moment.
>>737397556
>>737402689If people have this many complaints and they haven't even announced the monetization model there's no way the game will survive even a month. It's going to be buried by new releases just like one of those gachas that never take off.
>>737402949They're all legitimate complaints too, this game is cooked.
lol schizos here are cooked.Can't wait for classic.
>>737402949All those complaints is from that nu-maple player who have no understanding of the older games, the dude making those complaints is getting ripped apart anyways.
>>737401439I'll take what I can get. As long as she's not fat
>>737402949Literally every comment in that video is disagreeing with his shitty opinions, and he said he only started playing MapleStory in 2020, he didn't even understand why Pirates aren't included
>>737403103>>737403173Yet his opinions are far more important for nexon since he actually spends money on the game unlike you worthless leeches. >hurr pirates aren't classicYou don't even understand classic maple either.
i need a closed beta gf
>>737403213His opinions don't matter because they've already ensnared him with nuMaple. They're going after a different audience with Classic. Anyway Mr. 300 says Classic is good.
Got my chat rings so I can stop for now. Maybe we'll get an open beta announcement at the anni so they can give away the Mark of the Beta bandana.
>>737403363mr 300 barely even plays the actual game after he got 300, he mainly just plays chronostory instead. Not sure if it's cause he's still mad that nexon completely ghosted him after his crash out or because his only satisfaction in life is seeing the level up animation.
I thought Quests EXP were buffed?Did that guy that kept making these threads lie to us?
>>737402787>Shylilly in that lineupDisgusting whore tarnishing the scene. Marine is borderline e-whore but she doesn't come close to how filthy Shylilly and most other large indies are.
Yeah call me when classic has better waifus than numaple
>>737401662Watched the whole video. I definitely hope Nexon fix as much of these complaints as they can before launch, otherwise this game is dead on arrival.
>>737403684Mr. 300 just likes Maple. Did nuMaple, Artale, Chrono, and now Classic.
>>737404448All are dogshit. He has shit taste.
>>737404417Is this official?
>>737404778Yes it's from the new mapleSEA exclusive event where you get to date Orchid/Seren/Kaling
>>737404680Nemi should analyze my cock lmao
>>737404872>all murderers
>>737404903It's okay it's their FriendStory counterparts so they are all nice girls who love you very much and wouldn't hurt a fly
>>737403684He dropped chronostoryHe also loves classic
>>737404978Just playing it safe to keep the viewers.
i'm going to defame everyone wearing the beta chat and label ring on release
>>737405138You can defame me, but the people will know why.
>>737405138dangerously based
>>737390045if bishop is nerfed classic dies, thats like nerfing warrior in wow classic, its 90% of the reason people play
>>737402787I enjoy the customization in Maplestory Worlds.
>>737405079You're an idiot though
>>737404903If you can fix Lucid in her and AB's event, you can fix Kaling
who members when grendel the really old was still named hines
>>737405628>if bishop is nerfed classic dies, thats like nerfing warrior in wow classic, its 90% of the reason people playMost people only played Bishop begrudgingly, you don't actually think anyone enjoys being forced onto a Holy Symbol & Genesis bot all for the opportunity to get enough resources to finally start playing the game later do you?
>>737404417Is Maplestory 1 officially embracing goonart?
>>737405675No I've watched Niru during the 300 fiasco. He basically said on stream he wants to be a variety video game streamer but people only show up for his maple streams. After he hit 300 he went to play his N64 games and went down to 10-15 viewers until Artale dropped. He had about 300-500 during Artale for a month and it was only because he was still "the first 300". Chink account sharers started gapping everyone in Artale and he stopped streaming. Went back to Numaple and no one watched him anymore because there's now 10 other level 300s. Played chronostory and no one watched him. Now he has no choice but to stream and pretend to like Classic.
>>737406027You are a schizo idiot. You don't actually know what he thinks and feels.
>>737405906Always has been
>>737405841i do
>>737404973>>737404872>>737404417These are AI generated.
>>737405628I just don't wanna be forced to make a Priest just so I can use HS with another client
>>737388073Maybe because the level cap is 50 and is limited to victoria? They have loads of content to release till big bang, that is all complete and only needs tweaking to release over time.
Was there anything to do at all in Ariant back in the day?It always seemed like such a pointless map to me back then
>>737406869Decent amount of quests and Sand Rats is an amazing training spot.
>>737406869It had a questline attached to it. I don't remember much about it because it was almost two decades since I did it.
>>737406869I can't remember, was it a 30 or 50 area pre-BB? I want to say it was good for 30 in the early areas and 50 in the later areas pre-Magatia and I only remember scorpions being worth it even pre-BB. I remember the area mainly being for exploration and quests that gave you a bunch of free potions.
>>737406150Nah he fumbled the bag hard. The other 300s are now doing it in less time than him.
>>737405841i will not play if they fuck over bishop
>>737406869ariant is one of the areas they should remake from scratch. Same with Aqua Road.
>>737396041people in their 30s gathering around a GM to worship them is so damn embarrassing
>>737406869The Ariant questline has you uncover an evil sorcerers plot who's trying to take over the royal palace. You gather up consumables to make a magic mirror and break the illusion.
>>737406869Romeo and Juliet PQ
>>737407214You're a deluded schizo idiot though
>>737407295you had to be there
>>737407320That's Magatia, not Ariant.
>>737407295Nemi is getting nervous and sweaty from all the attention...
>>737407341Nope, Im just clued in on the happenings. Keep seething.
>>737407626Nah you're a deluded idiot
>>737386259EL CREATURO DE HENESYS
>>737407668Die, like a dirty rat.
>>737390923>capitalized They after ;The dialogue doesn't sound ESL so it's funny that there are errors like that.
>>737401662>gms fag>that introI'm good
>>737402689>exp lossexp loss when dying is bullshit timesink design. the handful of other games that do it let you overflow exp as a death buffer and/or don't have completely dog shit exp rates, and those games are often far more stable than maplestory ever was (meaning that you're less likely to die due to the game being shit rather than genuinely fucking up). this is one of the few "casualizations" that most people would be okay with since it doesn't even affect you negatively>story questagreed, he should fuck off>training recspartial agree. some suggestions for the total newfags wouldn't hurt, but this is a "engage with the community and talk to people" thing imo. if he's really that upset then he can just wait a week for people to write guides>exploring the mapsidk what this even means>black mage shitcan be okay but should just fuck off desu. black mage itself wasn't a problem lorewise, it was all the shit that came with 6th job>maps too big and confusinggoes away with time>blessingagreed it should fuck off
if people whine enough they will rerun the chat ring and name plate
>>737409349They should just to btfo people who bought keys.t. have cbt rings
>>737409298>exp loss when dying is bullshit timesink design.Just don't die? lmao
>>737409498>if you don't like it you're bad xdit's a complete non-issue for anyone who knows how to play the game, all it does is punish players if they're running content at a bad time due to nexon's servers shitting the bed. anyone who has played this game for long enough has had at least a dozen deaths like that over the yearsyou could easily change it to a -50% stat debuff that lasts for ~10 minutes if you want punish dying or nexon could be based and bring Durability back into the game, but durabilty is another bullshit timewasting mechanic most people don't care forconsider roping if you're incapable of providing an actual argument
>>737409742That's a lot of words to say "I'm bad at the game", bro.
>>737409298>or don't have completely dog shit exp ratespath of exile...
>>737409804I accept your concession, you didn't play OSMS
losing exp is good because it allows you to grind more in the grind game
>>737409742>spoilerit always took ages to sell durability gear because everyone fucking hated it kek
Sincerely gonna miss this shit when it ends
>>737411002We're going home... soon™
Mossad agents killed tiger and suuushi.
can you play like its oldschool in modern
checking out streams, and people only reached levels 40~ in a weekwas the original experience really take that long to grind exp? my expectations was like level 120~ for a week of nolife grinding
>>737412153>120 for a week of nolifingLOLit used to take longer. this is with party play exp buffs and knowledge from datamining that tells us what the best HP:EXP ratios are
>>737412153I'm almost positive this is greatly accelerated. I played MS way, waaay back when it first released and as early as level 20-30 the pace had slowed down to getting less than one level per day and that was ~8 hours of grinding per day. It can not be overstated how fucking slow leveling was at launch.
>>737412247>this is with party play exp buffs and knowledge from datamining that tells us what the best HP:EXP ratios aredude... i'm going to tap out from the 2nd job change at level 30 wtfdo quests give out a lot of exp or no
>>737412153From what I saw on streams the more no life grinders reached 50 in about 3-4 days. Not everything was immediately figured out so that also chips some time from the process.I'd say getting to 50 in the current closed test, depending a lot on the class of course. Would be like 40-50h roughly? It's super hard to say since I didn't get to play it myself, but from the looks of things it doesn't look that hard honestly. People with time and who don't mind grinding will process, but more casual oriented players still need a ton of time.No lifer can likely reach 50 on launch in under a week, but for a casual that can easily translate to something like 3-5 weeks. The comparison in a game where time = progress is heavily skewed when you look at someone who plays 12h everyday and actually grinds most of that time vs someone who spends 30min-2h a day in the game.You can balance the game speed from the small minority of players who spend their days playing this when majority won't.
>>737412153It took me months to get my first level 70
>>737412325>do quests give out a lot of exp or noLOL
>>737412247>knowledge from datamining that tells us what the best HP:EXP ratios arewhat would those be
>>737406224>>737404872>>737404417These are AI
>>737412338Can't balance, typod that. It doesn't seem too bad and I think the softcap for leveling just comes from having to train on lower level enemies unless content is added in a timely manner.Still, no lifers will absolutely blow past majority of people which I'd imagine some see as a problem.
>>737412087In what way? Most of modern Maple is singleplayer unless you really want to shortcut getting higher tier gear faster, sticking to specific maps for grinding, not really exploring, and 90% of the content being outleveled within a few hours of doing basically anything. A huge chunk of the maps prior to 120 don't really matter because you can easily do 1-150 in a single day with a burning character, 1-90ish in like eight hours even if you have no HS, no Mercedes buffs, no 2x coupons, etc. Modern Maple only really starts at like 160+ and past that point you're grinding in anti-AFK maps or bossing pretty much.>>737412153You could realistically hit in the range of 30-50 if you played like eight hours a day for about two weeks, knew the exact maps you had to grind, and did both KPQ and LPQ nonstop with perfect tracking. 1-10 alone was like 2-4 hours, 10-14 was like another 2-4 hours at Kerning Octos or HHG1, 14-21 was at least a day or two of grinding Bubblings, Horny Mushrooms, and Evil Eyes depending on your job, 21-31 was at least two days of KPQ, 31-35 was days of Orbis cats and Neps, 35-51 was days of LPQ, and then you were pretty much left to fend on your own with terrible grinding spots until OPQ released and you could smuggle records out. I can't remember if Perion's construction site was good for that 14-21 range or 31-35 but when what came out it was great for training. Seriously though, until NLC's haunted mansion came out there was nothing for the 50s barring what Drakes?I remember there was a P2W whale guy who had a Priest friend with 2x coupons and he went from 1 to like 90 in a week I think it was but that's because outside of having 24/7 HS he also nolifed it and once he hit Drake range he had friends who helped him control the maps from that point until post-Ghost Pirates.
>>737412153>was the original experience really take that long to grind exp?It was much slower. I think classic is already way too easy for the amount of content in the game, most players will hit 3rd job level 2 weeks after launch. It used to take a literal day of grinding to go from say, 25>26. Now you can grind from 20-30 in a day.
I'm annoyed that most of the complaints are from people who Classic isn't even made for. They're going to drown out the real issues.
>>737412687>It used to take a literal day of grinding to go from say, 25>26Were you not doing KPQ? It was typically like 15-20% per 6ish minute run even into the mid 20s.
>>737412825People need to understand that the modern audience are completely incompetent and they're getting feedback from fucking discord users. This beta is as good as classic is ever going to be, and it's about a 7/10.
>>737412825Would not be surprised at all. MS2 died because of a handful of content creator faggots pushing the devs toward retarded decisions.
>>737412861It's a solid 4/10
>>737412847yeah and most often 30 minutes of waiting around between those 6 minute runs
>>737412891Weirdly, most youtubers and streamers I've seen talk about the game had a lot of fun and just want the fucking thing to come out already. This might be a rare case of the game being held up by a bunch of faceless cattle having too much access to a small unconfident dev team.
>>737412914Yep, won't deny that, but you could typically get 2-3 runs before the wait assuming you played on off hours or had a solid track.
>>737412590i dunno i tried it when ren came out and there was so much shit thrown at me all at once it was a nightmare to navigate
>>737412825I think accuracy is being cited as the #1 issue, and its a valid complaint that Nemi has acknowledged
>>737412996You could just wander around if you want but the game has a very clear progression system of stuff available to you via the lightbulb menu, and at that point it's just picking and choosing. My information's a couple years out of date but if I remember right you basically just went>Ellinia Forest dungeon until you cleared it in like an hour which got you to 20 ish.>Mushroom Expedition until you hit your 30s.>Kerning Tower quests until you hit low 40s.>That penguin submarine questline until you hit late 40s.>Then scorpions in Ariant or drakes in Sleepywood until you hit your late 50s at which point you could pivot to a whole host of random grinding spots until you reach around 90ish.>Then you pivot either to Leafre for the turtles or Malaysia for the ghosts to around 110-120.After that was where I can't recall where you went. I think Himes were still viable until like 140 and then you go to Pink Bean's Temple, but again, it's been literal years since I last seriously played it. I know they did a revamp of KFT and I think they brought back Florina after a decade.
>>737413120Accuracy and defense formulas are literally like 80% of the reason why people are frustrated with balance right now. If you make it so people hit enemies more frequently and take less damage, pretty much everything is solved. Warriors and archers bitching about having some bad skills like mages don't also have bad skills that you're better off ignoring entirely. The problem is mages hit 100% of their attacks and avoid damage more easily. Fix this disparity and the game is basically ready to come out (bugs aside).
>>737413186i dunno it just felt like 90% of the game was irrelevant and i didnt know which 90% when the character did a quest and ended up i forgot the exact level but it was like 200 or something some magic hat thing, i just uninstalled said fuck it
>>737412825Aside from ebaykids barely anyone got in besides influencers and streamers. Nexon obviously paid them to stream for a certain amount of time and recommend it to others, it's their job. The same thing is happening in the OSMS cord, faggot zoomer nuplers have pretty much skewed all discussion against it being 1:1 or pure vanilla. This change in feedback obviously confused the dev team to push out the cafe test balances. Beta got data-mined and everything turned to shit right after. Anyone who took the time to look at the data knew it's all bogus and will never work out. This is why we have these retarded changes currently that are basically going back to 1:1 with Clerics and Sins dominating the game. At this point Nexon has no idea what they're doing and panic made the dumbfuck warrior changes, nerfed bandit, and listened to the Sin mains crybullying Inkwell+Nemi about Sin buffs. They have one more chance to make things right with the open beta sometime in October at the minimum, but I believe the well has already been poisoned and there won't be any hype left by that point.
>>737413348>it just felt like 90% of the game was irrelevantThat's what post-BB Maple is, yeah. Even pre-BB Maple was like that in a lot of areas like Korean Folk Town, Omega Sector (Something almost no one will ever go to outside of curiosity and then rage at the 30+ minute trek back up Ludi Tower), Zipangu, pretty much every part of Henesys that wasn't Henesys Hunting Ground 1, most of Ellinia, etc.
>>737412996Part of the reason why some people want to return to classic mmos is exactly this. Overtime games just get bloated with content to the point it's just overwhelming even if you have some fairy on your shoulder telling you where to go. There is just so much different stuff that it can actually turn you away from a game.
>>737413458exactly, i dont want to get a fucking GED in your game before i can even start playing it comfortably
>>737413303Holy Arrow being the best single target skill in the game is clearly a problem.Clerics already have the best utility, they should have the worst damage for non-undead enemies.
>>737412153>my expectations was like level 120~ for a week of nolife grindinglmao clueless guyit will take monthsalso the game launches only with victory, 120 is not even viable in that state
>>737413612>also the game launches only with victory, 120 is not even viable in that statewhen accounting for exp penalties, iirc the highest level you can possibly get is level 100 and that's if you completely nolife on tauros giving severely reduced exp
>>737413557>Holy Arrow being the best single target skill in the game is clearly a problem.Holy arrow is fine and fun, it's other classes being shit that is the problem.
>>737412825because people dont really want classic and just want a fresh new server for competitive world firsts like WoW retards. They're not interested in preserving maple into a certain state
All the fixes are just easy number work and they'll have the game up and running in no time. Launch is coming soon and it just takes a little bit of time... just a little...
>>737413823and then whatgrind for 12 hours a day?there's no content
>>737413401>faggot zoomer nuplers have pretty much skewed all discussionThis is so true it hurts. I see a lot of retards that are suggesting to turn warrior and archer into unironic nu-maple versions, constantly crying about other classes being better than them. They did get weakened a little too much in the beta, but these faggots want every advantage and they want it starting from first job.
>>737413557I don't have a problem with holy arrow being good, and this idea that they should do shit damage because they bring utility has always been ridiculous as they were bar none the best second job class and fourth job class, with holy symbol being so busted that that alone gave them a free pass in third job.No, my problem is that cold beam and fire arrow are flat out worse, even before taking into account that holy arrow can be used as a mobbing skill too.Either magic damage needs to be changed to not benefit multiple lines to such an absurd degree (or ideally at all), or every single target spell needs to be changed to deal multiple lines.
>>737413897>contentWhy does grinding not count as content?>b-b-because you're just repeating the same thing to watch number go up!Do you have any idea how many video games boil down to that procedure?
>>737413945kys kike tourist
What's the /v/ consensus on Pirates
>>737413959>grinding isnt content in grinding game
>>737413897I want my hangout simulator where I can indeed grind>>737413965I don't really mind eitherway about pirates. Speed infusion is one thing that has to obviously change, but thats much later on.
>>737413965The end of MS.
>>737413959>touristI guarantee I started playing MapleStory before you.
>>737413680It doesn't matter what cleric mains like you say. Yards like you get upset every time someone says genesis should have a 10s cooldown.>>737413938>I don't have a problem with holy arrow being good, and this idea that they should do shit damage because they bring utility has always been ridiculous as they were bar none the best second job class and fourth job class, with holy symbol being so busted that that alone gave them a free pass in third job.You're saying it's ridiculous people are complaining Clerics have the best single-target attack in the game because they were "bar nine the best second job and 4th job class" and the most busted skill in the game in 3rd job?WOOOOOOOOOOWyeah, that makes sense bro! Already the best class, so let's give them the best single target DPS too!Retard alert!
What I'll never understand is why they couldn't just take the old values for everything and just release it again. Why did they have to change everything?Oh, right, because the whole idea is to have an accelerated update schedule to bring the game up to feature parity with global, and then merge them in 2-3 years, and you can't do that with legacy data.
>>737414156Mentally ill post
>>737413965Pirates are good on paper but they unironically need a total rework because both of the subjob branches had major design flaws.The tl;dr of them is>Corsair is "Potential Class", it's the strongest DPS in the game but it's extremely janky with things like battleship management/bugs>Bucc suffers from the same problem Shadower had, where the devs threw a bunch of random shit into the pot while hoping some would stick.At the bare minimum, Bucc needs the modern QoL of making skills share levels when switching stances if you want to make it playable, the class unironically doesn't come online until level 175 or so.
>>737413965Personally I like playing Gunslinger in post-BB even if it's clunky with all the cooldown manegement and weird ways you summon stuff. At the same time I felt like they were the beginning of Maplestory going downhill because it meant they were going to flood the game with new classes that the old content wasn't balanced or built for and mess up the balance as eventually newer jobs would severely outpace the old ones and clearly that ended up happening. Same deal with Cygnus Knights, they always felt like knockoffs of explorers that had none of the positives of them and only really existed to make 120 a stopping point and be easy to build.
My main concerns are how are they going to bring in underage girls that send me nudes for almost nothing like back in the day, and how are they going to protect me from liability when I'm no longer underage myself
>>737413927Wait till you see how streamerfags like Ryambi, Niru, Ereklo etc do "sub only" parties and then do fake giveaways that they give to their twitch mods. They're going to be the biggest guilds in the server and hog up all the maps and resources as well until the wave of chinkbot gold sellers rushes in and btfo's them on rankings by account sharing.
>>737413897>and then what>grind for 12 hours a day?We are talking about classic maplestory, so.... yes?>>737414156Bait post, but nerfing heal and mp eater to shit really knocks them off their dominance pedestal.They're still good, just not the pot-free grinding gods they were before.
>>737414169>What I'll never understand is why they couldn't just take the old values for everything and just release it again.Because that game would die in like a month. The better question is why they're acting like shaking up the meta takes like five testing phases and mountains of player feedback.
>>737413965After the attempt at balance changes, I'm fine with not seeing them for a while.
>>737414176>no argumentNo problem idiot.>>737414340Notice how you're refusing to confront the fact that they have the best single target DPS in the game.Nobody is saying holy arrow shouldn't be good. They're saying it shouldn't be the best single target DPS in the game, even on non-undead enemies.Tardo cleric mains like you just can't handle any takes that make your class non-overpowered.
>>737414354>Because that game would die in like a monthIt wouldn't you dumbfuck nupler. There was no skill balance changes for the entirety of pre-big bang and it did fine. Only after big bang did everyone get this gay zoomer minmax autism about balance and skill changes.
>>737414412>best single target DPS in the gameYou keep parroting this, has anyone actually done damage comparisons against a same level/gear quality assassin or a max savage blow bandit? I have a hard time believing they actually do that much damage.
i thought about the beta some more and came to some conclusionsorbis and el nath not being present on launch makes sense on the basis that they want to make new content the focusthose regions can then be fed to the playerbase later on to keep interest maintainedthey are obviously going to be added, assets have already been datamined and i think i remember the tutorial enemies being sentinel jrs.i don't think balance testing is at all a focus of the beta, it's probably more about testing stability and general player reaction. things like mages having literally no accuracy formula screams "placeholder" to mei'll have to see what the survey we will supposedly be recieving at the end of the beta is likei don't know whether the code reselling was intentional or a matter of the nexon launcher being unable to do limited distributions outside of codes and them being a team with limited power within nexon.my suspicion tells me the former but my experience working in offices points towards the latterbleh
>>737414494there was numerous skill updates/changes starting from v56. Pre-BB had multiple adjustments mate.
>>737388073fpbp
>>737414609and you should replicate those patches in the same time span
was controller support mentioned/confirmed?
>>737414554Outdamaging higher level, endgame gear bandits at CURSE EYES
ME ZOOMER IF NO QUEST MARKER ME DON'T KNOW WHEREHELP
>>737414494I fucking hate numaple amigo.>There was no skill balance changes for the entirety of pre-big bang and it did fine.That's because it was, yknow, new and the proliferation of information was much slower back then. If they took the exact same game, the thing that's already solved, and ported it over one to one then people would know exactly where to go and when, what classes to play, what builds to use, literally where to stand on a map down to the pixel to grind most efficiently on DAY ONE. And yes they would make 500 youtube guides for it thus completely removing any sense of exploration whatsoever for every new player.
what is it about maple that attracts so many schizo bait posts and shitflinging in every thread
>>737414996You do understand that people will datamine everything and get the same videos up a whole day later at worst, right?
>>737414996>they would make 500 youtube guides for it thus completely removing any sense of exploration whatsoever for every new player.This simply can't be helped
>>737414494>>737414996>There was no skill balance changes for the entirety of pre-big bang and it did fine. Only after big bang did everyone get this gay zoomer minmax autism about balance and skill changes.neither of you fucktards played old maple, they had balance changes every couple of patchesthere are multiple skill balance changes between the two major preBB versions that most private servers use. balance changes were rare but they weren't "wtf they never happened bigbang is le evil", what the actual fuck kind of claim is that???
>>737414950I don't even have access to the game, but still knew this. I feel really old for actually going to maplestory website and checking out patchnotes/update posts.I've seen a ton of people have no idea about stuff that is very clearly in the posts on the official website and I suppose I'm just a dusty ass unc who actually goes to websites for information. I don't even think it's all zoomers, but millennials like me aswell who just never got into the habit of checking out official update notes.>>737415004This is sadly rather common on this website and maplestory is not the only game that suffers from it. Maplestory does attract some of these people however so it isn't suprising.
is the beta quest do it once and you are done or I need to do in every character?
>>737415004tbf its a mushroom game that demands an autistic level of grinding, so by its very nature it attracts the autist bunch.
>>737415046well the dataminer guides for the beta are wrong cause they're based on paper performance rather than actually playing the gamelike they say magic claw is better than energy bolt>>737415108the beta quests are tracked by account not by character
>>737415108I'm pretty sure you can only do it once, I didn't get the level 10 quest on my second character. I assume you can put the ring in your storage and trade it across characters.
>>737415004it's a major oldfag mmo where most people have moved on from it so naturally the usual schizo:normal anon ratio is skewed more than usualragnarok online threads suffer from the same problems
>>737415004what makes you think the behavior isn't deserved? Just let it happen
was the $300 worth it?
>>737415129>like they say magic claw is better than energy boltIt is. I was laughing at the bolt users around level 26-27 doing maybe 300 damage while I was doing 400+ and one shotting horny mushrooms.
what a productive use of time
>>737414494>There was no skill balance changes for the entirety of pre-big bangRetard.
>>737415046Yeah, that's why when this closed test was datamined people immediately worked out that warriors felt like complete shit to play. Oh wait, that never happened, because you can't solve a game based on what amounts to fucking patch notes. You actually have to PLAY IT.
>>737415303Everybody knew that warriors would feel like shit, because they always felt like shit. Any melee player with a brain went bandit.
>>737415129It is, the magic damage formula favors multi hit spells to an absurd degree.Its so bad that magic claw eventually even out damages cold beam and fire arrow which have much higher base power.The math has been done.It's also why holy arrow is now one of, if not the best attack skill in the beta.
>>737415129>like they say magic claw is better than energy boltOther way around. On paper bolt is better because on paper it was the same damage but cost less MP, then when people actually played it turned out claw was stronger. People incorrectly rushed max bolt off of the datamined info and people who actually PLAYED THE GAME and stuck with magic claw demonstrated it's still stronger.
Melee felt bad in original maplestory tooYou know how annoying it is to chase up to an enemy and potentially getting tagged by them, while archers and mages were KSing you on ledges
>>737415004These threads, like most, have 1-2 dedicated schizos on top of the normal /v/ user autism. Pay attention and you can recognize their posting styles.
I'm kind of concerned I'm not seeing anyone point out that ugly fucking pivot animation tier slop they shoved ingame, why are there fucking cutscenes in classic?
its peak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46XF58O6GIA>>737415636It's cringe kino. Well honestly cutscenes are a mixed bag and some really don't like em. I don't mind it and atleast they thankfully do offer you the option to just skip it entirely, granted having it just be text based would be just fine for me.
>Post criticism during beta to make the game better>A dozen nexon shills come out the woodworks to bootlick the megacorporation and to do damage control with toxic positivityYou can't win with these people
just saw someone announcing a gold seller websitewe are so fucking back bros
>>737415752holy kino, reminds me of this old gem https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUIQlOExfi4
>>737415636because people don't want classic
>>737415214>Perma Beginner without the roses or tubes.>Meaning it's purses in perpetuity.
>>737415752I think having it ingame at all is bad. I do not want it ingame, it is not classic, it's a TELLTALE sign of new maple.
>>737416042I used to watch a lot of these mmv stuff. I think it was really cool how people used bannedstory and then editing software to do all kinds of things. Probably something else aswell, but I never really got into making them myself.>>737416302Yeah, fair enough. I do know some people don't like cutscenes and don't want them. I personally don't mind it eitherway, but I don't have the same look on this game as some others do.
I'm happy that brazilians won't be playing, desu. That's the best news we got from this beta.
>>737416789they'll VPN their way in, just like the chinese will
>>737416894chinese have financial incentive, brazilians don't
>>737416789Please tell me SEA/India are also blocked
get ready for the invasion. they're already testing their tools
>>737417726Yeah, the game is going to be a massive botfest. That's one of the major differences between now and then. Botfarms weren't exactly a thing. I mean ching chong gold sellers have existed for as long as its been profitable but back in the mid 2000s and up through the early 2010s it was primarily a bunch of people actually playing the game. There'd be some overheated warehouse with 1000 underpaid slurs all playing on their own toaster. These days they just have dozens of clients operated by bots open on a single computer or dozens of cheap phones all hooked up to a system to control them. The scale of botting operations are magnitudes larger these days. Back in 2005 I'm pretty sure I saw more hackers than botters. I wouldn't be surprised if I see more bots than real players after launch hype dies down.
>>737418106just like WoW classic as time went on
>>737417726NL mains are creaming their pants at the idea of spending ten grand on mesos and ilbies
>>737417726wow, who couldve seen this comingit's like no one learned anything from reboot servers not having any trading
When is the full version dropping? From a casual standpoint it took way too long between the announcement and where we are now
>>737418410>it took way too long between the announcement and where we are nowThat is literally the entire video game industry right now. What made you think a remake of a 20 year old game was going to be any different?
>>737413945>>737414017>>737414340Grinding isn't content. It's just chink tier behaviour conditioning. Maplestory was always trash, take off the rose tinted glasses, retards.
>>737418840Whatever you say man.
>>737418840there can definitely be some middle ground between "a week of grinding per level" and "get 10 levels for doing a basic point A to point B with no fighting main story quest" When I played around 2013 seemed perfect but every time I tried to play after that there was just nothing to do because why keep around the quest to kill 100 slimes if doing said main story quest will skip you past all the levels its relevant
>>737416789>>737417467I'm coming to shit up your server and you can't stop me
>>737419150your going to be a drop in a chinese bucket
they can already get in the beta without the key. the bots without a key are already gonna get the beta ring rewards and i wont hahahahahahahahaahahahah
>>737419558It's a good thing to wake up to with a swarm of chinese in your closed test talking in ancient runes that spawn meso coins in the pockets of high luk characters.
>>737419558Just go refund scam a soulless key seller already, you still have enough time to get the rewards and enjoy a bit of gameplay
>>737419558apparantly you just get the files from someone in the beta and it works when you launch it
>>737420151No way it's that simple
>>737420151>>737420260someone should upload the cbt to anonfile or mega or some shit so we can test this
>>737417467ip blocked yes, but brazil is restricted from buying trading selling or buying or using any items that have a "Chance" of anything. so no pq boxes, no scrolls, no quests that can give multiple rewards at chance.
i sincerely wish for the destruction of the three gorges damlast post from me about this as i'm probably being annoying now.nexon is incompetent and the chinese will exploit it; the two constants in the universe.
>>737415004you ever seen /msg/?
>>737421105based CN pwning all classickeks
>>737421105Somethings truly never change.
>>737421170yeah, it's 50% horny posting and 50% gameplay so it's already better than these threads
>>737421105Yeah pretty much. The client files had basically 0 verification, all it does is check that you're signed in to the launcher, it doesn't check your account has access, it literally just checks that it's installed, if it's installes the eligibility check is "do they have it on their launcher client" and that's it.It's crazy how little they put into this.
death to chinks
>>737418840>retard
>>737421105My hostility towards any of these regions and countries are rooted from years and years of the same old tale. They deserve every bit of hate they get and in an ideal world they wouldn't even exist.
Anyone who gets the client files can access the game, btw.You literally just launch it.That's it. There's no "hack" they're bullshitting you.
>>737421274It's pretty incredible that it took this long for the chinks to find this, I guess even they weren't crazy enough to think Nexon's security would be that bad.
Someone wants to upload the game folder then? t. Keylet
>>737421445It's been available, they were just selling it. Some youtuber made a video saying he was gonna release it to people who subbed to his patreon so the chinks released it for free.
>>737420824wasn't that just Dutch players?
>>737421905the new brazilian "give us your data goy" law that passed recently incited nexon to completely bar brazilians from doing ANYTHING in maplestory at all, and probably other games soon to follow, cause nexon doesn't intend to make people give their data up and don't want to deal with lawsuits.
>>737420540I tested on another account and pc and doesn't work
>>737422135 nxl://launch/59822
>>737422192it doesn't work bro
>>737422013>>737420824No it doesn't, you are literally illiterate. It's just the same block belgium and slovakia have where they cant buy loot boxes FROM THE CASH SHOP, it literally says that in the patch notes
>>737420824>>737422013this is a lie>t. hue with a key
>>737422270the patch hasn't happened yet, negro.
>>737422308>Within the cash shopTry reading retard
>>737422308CASH SHOPREAD NIGGER
>>737422248>scrolls>circulators>cubes>coupons>boxes with probability>Gachpaon>ALL items with an element of chanceit then says, those items in the cash shop will not be visible. It doesn't say "ONLY these items in the cash shop". It says ALL items.>>737422341braindead favelanigger
>>737422308>>737422359>he actually think Hues buy stuff from the cash shopkek lol lmao eve
>>737422398man, when the patch happens I'm gonna laughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh at you retards
>>737422013>bar brazilians from doing ANYTHING>look inside >>737422308>only cash shopholy retard
>>737422443>all itemsholy nigger who can't read
>>737422491point out where a Hue is barred from doing anything
>>737422580read >>737422308says pretty clearly.
shitposting used to be smarter and more elegant
>>737422637I agree, it's a shame people can't read. Goes to show how many brazilians are on /v/ now though.
I just need to use a VPN in the worst case scenario anyway
>>737422308>>737422596
>>737422670still waiting for you to point out where they can't play maplestory
>>737422359>>737422596You might genuinely be the most retarded anon in this thread, congratzIf you are being serious, it's the same exact restriction already in place for players in belgium and it only affects the cash shop, that's literally why it says items obtained before are still usable.https://support-maplestory.nexon.com/hc/en-us/articles/360023791851-Items-Unavailable-for-Purchase-in-Belgium-and-Slovakia
>>737422693>ALL ITEMSyeah how do people progress if they can't buy cubes? how do they progress if they can't buy scrolls?
>>737422737please show me cubes on maplestory classic
>>737422729so why does it say ALL ITEMS and not "ITEMS IN CASH SHOP"
>>737422792are you actually illiterate?
>>737422774you're right scrolls don't exist on classic my mistake I'm just a blind retarded favelamonkey, forgive me, ahueahaeuaehueahuaehauehaeue
>>737422792because the whole post is about the cash shop and its redundant and bad english to keep repeating yourself ESL kun
>>737386259>watch stream>MISS MISS MISShow do you even fuck up this bad I just don't believe nexon can do this classic shit properly
>>737422839damn, crazy that they didn't just say it only affects the cash shopit's almost like words have meanings and nexon has done this exact bullshit MANY times before.
>call someone favelamonkey>actually think the favelamonkey will buy scrolls with real moneycan you at least pick a lane on your logic and argument
>>737422898they did in the first sentence.
>>737422879Nexon NA and Inkwell are straight up incompetent that's why.
>>737422903Where does it say ONLY cash shop is going to remove scrolls? Cause that post very clearly states that ALL items, including scrolls, will be unavailable for purchase. Doesn't say "in the cash shop", it says "ALL ITEMS". period. End of statement.
>>737422941"for purchase" you keep saying it yourself
>>737422941>These items will no longer be visible to you within the Cash Shop. Why would they need to say this if they aren't purchaseble in the first place? Almost like it's referring to only the cash shop because the law only prevents buying them with real money. Again, belgian players literally already have this same exact restriction and we know how it works already, stop being fucking retarded
>>737422941hope this helps
I'm pretty sure it only applies to gambling, as in spending real money on items with a random chance, so in classic that literally only applies to Gachapon tickets
>>737422941real money has to be involved for it to be considered a purchase
izzat moment
a moment of silence for all the people who bought a key
>>737423130i cant even get the files
>>737423130they technically can fix this, just check if the account had a valid key and ban everyone else
Are the exp rates still absurdly fucktarded? I'm a 2006maplefag, I migrated to OdinMS the moment it released to the public and never touched vanillashit ever again
how far behind will i be in this game if i intend to be completely f2p?
>>737423668not having a pet is borderline unplayable
>>737423437They literally posted saying they could take action against any account that used a key not meant for them, but they aren't going to do that because it would mean banning most of the content creators and whales.They are genuinely just incompetent
>>737423668make a female character and pretend to be a girl
>>737423668We don't know how the monetization will be on launch yet or how fast it could change. From the current state and predictions you will be missing out on pet(really good QoL thing for looting) and shop to sell stuff in. Potentially AP/SP reset(s) to allocate skills again after reaching a higher level where you would want to shift some away from old attack skills etc.I wouldn't say you're going to be "left behind", but you will be missing out on QoL and some basic stuff.
>>737423668You will be ugly without cosmetics and passed over for everybody else for guilds, parties, bossing and everything really
>>737423668you'll look like this
if you haven't already scammed some thirdie keyseller on ebay, did you really even want to play this game?
Will the game have broken gachapon items?
>>737413186>>737412590I picked up the game and played in November/December. The game now fast tracks you to 200 through quests, you don't even have to walk to NPCs to turn in most of the time, you just click the lightbulb and it teleports you to the next area. Your class quests take you to 30, then you do your choice of like four 30-60 areas (all roughly the same exp-wise but with slightly different rewards), then Edelstein mines until 80, then Azwan, and so on. This also conveniently takes you through most of the boss prequests so you can get started with Zakum, Magnus, Von Leon, Hilla, Root Abyss, and so on as soon as you ding 200 and get your arcane symbol. You don't need to grind at all until Arcane River (and maybe not even then, you can just DailyStory it and progress almost as quickly at a much lower time committment).It took me maybe 10 hours to get a sub to 200 without Challenger World buffs.
>>737416302Piss off puritancuck. You retards don't even want pirates.
Thoughts on /ourgirl/ showing off the Classic henehoe experience?https://twitch.tv/triciaisabirdy
>>737424463Congrats you got through half the tutorial in 10 hours.
>>737425032This image is AI
>>737425070AI won, get over it.
>>737424965>talking about her breakups
>>737388073>supposed dead classic thread has 4x the activity of numaple
Why is /msg/ seething so much about Classic?
>>737425681they hate inkwell, not so much classic itself
>>737425681It's less about Classic and more about Nexon once again proving they're fucking incompetent.
How many hours left of the beta?
>>73742630511
Is HP washing out? Are X-less builds out? Are early-pick-level-up bonus skills out or made to work retroactively?If at least one of the questions' answers is "No" then I won't play.
>>737426305Early Access: April 14, 2026 6:00 PM UTC - April 24, 2026 12:00 AM UTCSo around 34½ hours remaining.
>>737426602Yes. Yes. Retroactive.
>>737426602All of that is gone but in exchange they completely fucked the accuracy and defense formulas so now you need to chug potions constantly and you will miss most of the time
>>737426730>>737426751Holy fucking shit! The game is now actually worth playing beyond the first 20 levels?If you'll also say there's at least some build variety in I'm gonna coom on the spot.
>>737386259that wasn't in the original classic game
>>737426879Good. Puritan dipshits like you aren't wanted
>>737426863no build variety, there's only like 10 skills for each class, there's no room for variety unless they made new shit.
>>737426932Okay, that's fine as long as the most efficient stat allocation pipeline isn't just pumping your main damage stat finding and scrolling overalls for the secondary one. I just wish that there'd be at least some consideration required for spreading stats and actual gear progression. Cuz in the basic game the meta was to forgo your class-coded gear because of "trash" stat requirement in favor of some boring general equips.>>737426908I concur
>>737427237Maple gear was a fucking mistake and even though they are iconic they absolutely shouldn't bring them back without nerfing them drastically. Same for NLC, everything in that region completely destroyed the game balance.
>>737426908nobody asked for your opinion disgusting faggot. i was only saying that it wasn't in the original game. stupid nigger
>>737427237It's looking like alternative stats may be more valuable now, accuracy, crit, etc based on how they've balanced some of the damaging skills. But no it will still primarily be pump main, minimum for equips for secondary (or none once they bring in maple equips or roses or whatever)
>>737427237They buffed the fuck out of the general gear so the secondary stat investment is much more worth it instead of it being an even trade off.
>>737427362And if you weren't a stupid ass you'd know they were never making a 1/1 remake.
Chances that EXP rates will get buffed on release since the feedback will be overwhelming “leveling is too slow”?
Inkwell doesn't know why people like Maplestory
>>737427506Pretty high, which is funny when levelling is actually way too fast. Zoomers just don't remember the game.
>>737427398>it will still primarily be pump main, minimum for equips for secondaryThat's a shame.>It's looking like alternative stats may be more valuable now, accuracy, crit, etc based on how they've balanced some of the damaging skills>They buffed the fuck out of the general gear so the secondary stat investment is much more worth it instead of it being an even trade offThat's a gain.Glad to see the dev team's gotten their head out of their asses to at least some degree instead of going the #nochanges route.Here's hoping they won't introduce Cygnuses and named fucks as "classes" somewhere down the line and keep the powercreep somewhat in check so the game would still stay the quirky platformer MMO rather than zoom around-blast whole screen dopamine fryer the modern MS has become. Even if not there's still fun to be had at launch.
>>737425032I wasn't contesting that, I got to 268 with Ren on CW2 before I lost interest and uninstalled. I was just telling him how the game is nowadays for a new player.
>>737427506I hope they don't go buffing exp rates too hard. From what I've seen it seems just fine to me and is actually slow for majority of players just like how classic is supposed to be.
>warrior gear requires DEX nowhuh?
>>737427506It's always funny seeing classic uncs say that old maple is super slow grinding and that modern maple is too fast yet those same uncs would kill themselves if they had to deal with the actual numaple rates. The fact that so many people hit level 50 in the test despite inkwell saying that it would be "challenging" to hit level 30 clearly shows how off their perspective is on how slow old maple actually was to level in.
>>737427594The gamble right now is that they apparently missed a massive calculation error with accuracy for all physical based classes when they redid mob stats, so everything is way harder to hit, and not in a fun way, in a "you have to spec heavy into dex then once you get mastery in 2nd job you can spend money and respec back". It just makes everything but mage a chore so the intention of reducing magestory ironically just made it infinitely worse.I think it will probably get smoothed out, but I don't think this is anywhere near ready for launch, and if they launch it now, it will be a big deal, and might cause people to quit.As for new content, forgotten hollow is literally just reskinned shit. It's cool to have a slightly higher level area in vic island, but the boss is ANOTHER mushmom, the mobs are MORE undead shit, it just pushed cleric as the choice to make even further up every person's list who hadn't already decided.There's potential for growth in unique ways, but I can't honestly think of anything off the top of my head but backporting more reasonable numaple bosses. guardian slime, czak, maybe will (would actually be a pretty fun boss if you stripped the screen clutter out, his 'tests' are awesome mechanically). But I fear they're going to just reskin a jr balrog and go "ooh here look crazy cool new boss in smorbis, the evil fucked up version of orbis!".It's been 2 years minimum they've been working on this, and there's not a whole lot they've shown, which is concerning.
>>737427530>Pretty highThis is relative, though. High for someone playing 8 hours a day? Maybe. For someone playing 1 or 2 every couple of days, not at all.Some middle point between old school and big bang would be nice, OR, they could buff PQ and quest exp so leveling isn't as miserable as before.
>>737428057The problem is that anyone who enjoys the grind (which is incredibly easy now that parties have been massively buffed and you can stand on a ledge pressing attack once every 10 seconds to powerlevel) will run out of things to do in a week.
>>737428057They nuked quest EXP and pq exp because that was all anyone did in prebb, so now you have to grind, like literally everyone has been clamoring for. "More social stuff, more interactions with other players", now you get to sit in one map and grind for hours. antileech is pretty intense too, which I like (they just need to make it so buffing/attacking doesn't count, it needs to be one kill every like 10s or you stop getting share)>>737428179if a tigole wants to tigole themselves out of the game, let them.
>>737428179>will run out of things to do Well, that is a problem in every mmo, by fault of their own design.Here, at lvl 40ish with a full party, you're getting like 40% an hour. To me, that is slow unless you're one of the streamers playing 24/7
>>737428246thats insanely fast
>>737428179nta but this is more of a player issue. You can not balance the exp rates for someone who plays the game like 8h every single day. If they run out of things to do then they will hit the "softcap" where they need to grind on enemies lower than their level and experience slows down after every level up untill more content and areas are added.You could make the experience rate ten times slower and you would have sweatier people pushing level 30 while casual majority is hardstuck at level 7 in maple island.You can't balance this based on people who just play the game so much. I've seen streams of casual players aswell who are still around 2x-3x level range.
>>737428282Only if your time/hour is worth nothing and you have nothing else to do, honestly. Grinding has never been hard, either. It's just a time sink.
>>737428246A slower levelling rate means that everything feels more impactful. I remember how stoked I was to get to level 30 and put a point in haste after grinding for a couple of weeks. Now you can get to level 30 in 2 days, one day if you've got a good party or buy the inevitable 2x EXP shit.
>>737424965This girl is smarter than she appears. Despite being an autistic azn girl, she can give you a detailed breakdown of the economy, taxes, insurance, the law.
>>737428246Modern maple doesn't actually have that problem
>>737428469Buy an ad, attention hoe.>>737428354I get that, I also felt the same back then, but, I think current rates are fine. Most people are not grinding religiously 8 hours a day like it's a job, and if they do, then they deserve to progress faster. I don't see the big dealIf you nerf exp rates further, that's just going to alienate the majority of the playerbase.>>737428523Modern maple is soulless garbage
>>737427765The people that got to level 50 literally sunk 60-70 hours into grinding.In nuMaple this takes 3 minutes.Niru, the guy who was first to level 300, said 200 on Classic would take A LOT longer than 300 at any point in modern Maplestory.
>>737427765They massively buffed XP rates over what maple used to actually have, and were surprised that people hit 50 because they're completely incompetent.
>>737386259I see why you guys call Italians nonwhites now.
>>737428595He's capping, it took him 6 years to hit 300 on modern maple with extreme exp modifiers and spawn rate boosters, it took 4 years for 200 in prebb.I don't know why anyone listens to ANYTHING he says anyway, he made a big fucking grandstanding speech about how nexon was terrible and ruining maple by not listening to their players and said he wasn't gonna hit 300 because of it- then immediately went and got 300 as soon as someone else got close because "he deserved to be first" lmao.
The leveling rate is fine you retarded spergs. They have it in the sweetspot, and should now focus on adding new content.
>>737415279These are obviously just number adjustments, my point still stands .
I feel like most of you fags never played on a private server, these rates are about the same as 1x if you have an active party constantly farming mobsA lot of the downtime in classic maple was from finding parties and maps to grind in.
>>737428595>niruah yes the guy who abused a p2w private server tier item to literally 5x his rates compared to what koreans could actually grind at and it still took him literally forever. Have you actually seen the exp rates he got during his grinding sessions?
>>737427765>>737428650Out of all testers, how many reached lvl 50?
>>737428781It's still going but they're up to around 40 people who've hit level 50 (going by in-game announcements that people have tracked). Probably 50 by end of day and server shutdown.
>>737428781I stopped playing yesterday, but I was seeing about 20 people a day hit it. Probably more today and tomorrow because most of the users didn't get 2 day early access.
>>737428737He's not wrong if victoria island is the only content included with classic world on launch kek
>>737428747adding new content would make it modern maple though
>>737428749No it doesn't lol. They regularly changed shit up like letting buccs use more skills during transformation.
It's funny how some people think the average player is gonna play this game 16 hours a dayYes it took some streamers a few days to get to level 50, but for the huge majority of people playing only for a few hours a day it's gonna take weeks
Every other post on Reddit is a complaint post now. This game is DOA
>>737428827That's like 1% of the current playerbase. That doesn't seem like an 'exp too high' problem
>>737428737>4 years for 200 in prebbMad how illiterate you are, autist.Niru did not say it would take longer in pre-BB, he said it would take longer in Classic. Without 4th job and level 100+ maps & mobs, you would literally spend 140 levels grinding on Tauromacis with second job skills, and with the exp rate as it is, this would take nearly a decade of grinding all day every day.
>>737428907Yeah barely any people actually hit 30, KC is FILLED with people in their mid 20s who've been running kpq, and most of the good maps for 20-30 are completely packed on the two channels they gave so it's impossible to get a party.
>>737428907classic is for retarded poopsockers that are on the same wavelength as world of warcraft esports failures
>>737428907Who the fuck cares about the "average" player? The average player isn't going to spend a single cent on the game either. The nolifers are literally their main audience because those are the people who will spend money on the game. If the no lifers run out of content in a single week they aren't going to stick around to spend money.
>>737428779>salty gook
>>737428907It was funny grinding in ant tunnel and seeing just how casual most other players were. Constantly having to go and buy pots because they were too stupid to conserve their shit and spend all their money on pots every time, constantly dropping out after a few hours instead of grinding all day. Anyone with even the most mild dedication could outlevel anyone who isn't a chinese account sharer.
>>737428941classic levels even faster than pre-bb which was my point, I know you're a nonwhite and can't infer from basic statements but I ask of you to read the post again. Here, I'll even hotlink it for you.>>737428737
>>737428767I have played on private servers and I also agree it doesn't feel that fast. There is a lot of downtime as you said from just doing anything else other than smacking enemies around the clock. So hours into the game gets added even more from just doing other stuff unless you are absolutely mad about racing.Easy way to get a reality check for this sort of thing is to say it takes 3000h to hit level 200. You can add or deduct 500h from just playing around whatever.Now just check how long it takes for a person who plays like 11h every single day on average and the person who plays 1h every single day on average. The reality of this situation is that a majority of the playerbase is going to be more casual and around the 30min-3h mark more or less.
korean game for korean people
>>737428941Ah yes so classic world will have nothing but victoria island for years?
>>737429006No, you're an illiterate moron with absolutely zero clue what you're talking about, and zero data to back anything up.I know you have a large ego, but Niru had far more credibility here than a braindead idiot like you ever will.
>>737429096I know, I know, the tears make it hard to see, but here, one more time, just try.>>737428737
>>737428961No lifers won't go anywhere unless people are hacking their way up to upper echelons of levels or money, or have to compete with account sharers. They will train at a spot that they are 40 levels higher than the mob for months.
>>737429079That wasnt what niru was talking about you stupid idiot.He was asked what would take longer between getting 300 on gms or getting to 200 on the beta without a level cap.
>>737429135Anon again, you have no data, so you've lost from the beginning. You had no cards from the start, and lost because you have no credibility.Sorry moron. Just swallow your pride, take the L and move on :)
>>737429063Korean people? Quite the oxymoron there.
classic will just be chinese bots and RMTers and f2p retards complaining to nexon about bots in their made up competitive environment
Why does anyone think people will be hitting 200 at all if the highest level mob is level 60?
>>737429156Now read what >>737428595 actually said. He was using that quote from niru to compare classic leveling speeds to modern maple, despite the fact his argument relies on a completely fictional hypothetical version of the game that would never get updated.
>>737429140This.Autistic people think they are important, but they're not. Necon is targeting a broader audience, much like OSRS.
>>737428885Again that is just an adjustment compared to Big Bang or Classic, you're just proving that you're a dumbfuck nupler just like I said.
>>737428961Unless they make Classic World extremely P2W, it's gonna be the complete oppositeCasual players will buy clothes, a haircut, a pet and maybe a store permit, meanwhile what are the whales gonna spend their money on constantly? Thousands of gachapon tickets that we don't even know it's gonna be in the game?
>>737429225I will not be surprised if people get to level 80+ after the first month.
The scariest thing is they apparently had some sort of bypass on the client to allow literally anyone who wanted to connect, and I'm supposed to trust they're going to police it? They can't even stop the chinks on TWO channels in ONE server from taking over maple island and stopping people from training. What the fuck is going on here?
>>737429297why do that when they can copy korean classic and make a profitable server instead
>>737428910It doesn't even need to be fuckhuge. If they can snag 10k whales it will be a success and classic wow and OSRS prove that those games generate new players vs retail. Maplestory has the same retail issues that those 2 games have and thats getting new people. New people don't like retail versions of games because the onboarding experience is terrible. Hitting level 150 in 20 minutes and screen wiping might seem ok to the average 35 year old redditor like that stupid retard in this post >>737401662but most new players don't have that level of brain damage so they enjoy a simpler overall experience to guide them into its systems. I think a lot of devs forgot why people were able to tolerate these slow games. It's easier on the eyes. It really is that simple.
>>737429347It has too much content, losers would cry about cygnus knights and world tour being in.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cM3UY9olaY
>>737429316Me either, but 80 is not 200.
>b-b-but modern is ackshully slower than classic!The thing that numaplecucks keep forgetting about Classic is that resource management is also a very big deal. All Elixirs have 30 second cooldown so they are not usable and you are forced to buy expensive fixed value potions.Many times you will find yourself running out of pots, but not making enough meso to replenish what you used. This is especially prevalent on all the good high-spawn maps that give good exp. This challenge does not exist on numaple because grinding is free and easy.
>>737429319It's not even a "bypass". They are so incompetent that they don't even run a literal "did this account redeem a code for this game?" check on the client, you can just download someone else's files and connect with any nexon account. That's why they sent out codes instead of just giving accounts access to the beta, their client is that fucking dogshit and the code literally just says "okay this account can download the game lol".
>>737429501Nobody mentioned challenge. Everyone knows grinding takes no effort in numaple, but it still takes longer.
>>737429501so many words to cope about how classic will actually be infinitely faster than numaple and people will shit out level 200s in a couple months while 300 in numaple takes YEARS minimum even with free rides to 270.
>>737429225People are not hitting 200 untill higher level content is added. This is the exact type of a softcap you want for a game like this. You limit the no lifers by allowing them to play as much as they want, but it just gets slower and slower as they wait for content.It all depends on the content timeline and what sort of people are pushing for level 200, but it will take a while as long as they don't add high level content in a fast manner.
>>737429501Resource management is only an issue from 10-20. Past level 20, you make far more money from grinding than you will spend on pots, I was making about 100k mesos purely from meso drops between repots.
>>737429517no it's not, if that's the case the available clients all over southperry would let anyone in. You just get the generic "server down/ip ban/not allowed" message when you run classic.
>>737429571>wait for contentbut people didn't need to wait for content in old maple since they didn't fucking drip feed the actual fucking game like Inkwell is planning to do.
>>737429260You truly are an illiterate moron anon. He wasn't comparing raw leveling speed, but rather how long it would practically take between two different metas in their current state.Classic can more of less be inferred from the exp scaling curve. It takes 4 hours of solid grind to get from 49 to 50, and that time will increase exponentially, especially with tauromacis being the best available endgame mobs.
>>737429225It took until Leafre's release for the first level 200 in GMS, I doubt anyone is getting to 200 before Leafre
classic is coming out may 11th to coincide with the anniversary.source: inkwell is my sloppy gay anal lover (nemi watched, he's a bottom)
>>737429547Illiterate moron alert
>>737429547No one is getting to 200 in a couple months. Even in MSW with servers like Artale where characters do more damage and you have 2x exp rates from 1~70, 1.5x from 71~100, and 1x from 101+ people didn't get to level 200 in half a year. It's also something that has a bunch of things that gets people back to grinding faster like the FM is one click away, and you just jump into the auction house to buy and sell items so you aren't browsing a bunch of stores or needing to have a character set down with a store permit.
>>737429697There will be an open beta that runs for 6 months first, with a wipe at the end that pisses off 90% of the userbase.
>>737429539>still no data to back up this claimStill an idiot.
>>737429661>conversation is clearly talking about EXP rates ON RELEASE>uhh but actually in my hypothetical universe where victoria island is the only content in the game forever-Why are you like this? OG maple launched with ossyria too btw.
I hate the stupid stores everywhere. People act like they won't be a thing when it's P2W, but they will. If you're going to have that shit, just do a fucking auction house.
>>737429589For now. When you get to level 80+ areas resource management matters. When enemies are chunking off 1k+ damage from thier magic attacks then you either need to play a certain way or go back to other areas to get more meso.
>>737429589Not true, it depends on training spot. The ereklo twins were training on lorangs with a full party including two I/Ls and a cleric and they were losing money because they kept taking hits (at least until Jake realized drain was good). This is also why assassins hit the level cap first.
go back to playing on a private server if you don't know how nexon functions.
>>737429749No way they do something like that. Being realistic I expect a september date for them to parse and implement data from this test, then it just runs open as a soft launch through to full.
>>737429815Will basilmarket return for the poors?
>>737429589Also endgame is tauromacis, a mob that spam their undodgable magic attack, which got buffed (now does 1.1k damage). You will need to 1-shot them to train without losing money, and with 2nd job skills only, this might require level 100+
>>737429837>80>1k plus per magic attackyou mean like fucking bains and skelegons? at 120-130? nothing's doing 1k at 80.
>>737429932Probably. Can't imagine people checking every fucking store for a decent price like it's still 2005.
>>737429749There won't be an open beta you retard
>>737429793We are talking about the specific question niru was answering and somehow you are still too stupid and illiterate to grasp it.
>>737430056Who are we? That question is completely irrelevant to the discussion so why do you keep bringing it up?
>>737429837This, I couldn't afford pots even on Artale that had the original NPC vendor values where you could go back and make 5-10mil per a full inventory. I had to go back to Kargos and farm a few hours to have enough options to do Deep Ludi for an hour or two.Now imagine this with the vendor values reduced to 1/10th the original in Classic. People are going to need to farm for a day or two to be able to train in Deep Ludi for 30 minutes.
It has been confirmed that Nemi will be doing naked dogeza to apologize for the state of the game.
>>737429964Why are you acting like people are going to be farming VI mobs when Ludi will probably be out within a month of launch?The reality is that there are plenty of spots to farm without any real risk of damage. Sure, if you need the best EXP/hour then maybe you'll lose money. If you're willing to take a 3-5% efficiency hit you'll be making money from farming.
>>737429980You are not up to date with the data. Tauromacis hit 1.1k with their magic attack.
>>737430090This reply chain started from disputing niru's claim that 1-200 in the beta in its current state would take longer than 1-300 in gms you stupid, illiterate idiot.>>737430110See above, idiot.
>>737429980Never played OSMS. Your opinion doesn't matter.
>>737429964STOP making melee classes
On my way to page 10
I'm never playing modern MapleStory
>>737430352Why would their magic attack matter for a Page or Fighter? Touch damage is less than magic damage coupled with Power Guard further reducing touch damage. It'll still be a pot burn, but they have a good method to not get hit by a magic attack. That was the most basic thing with goby. If you were weaker and the house was doing an attack animation you walked into it.
How can Niru be so based?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7Osbm5VNvkContext: dark sight is bugged so that you literally become invisible to players you're not partying with.
>>737429763Okay lets take an example of current KMS, a level 295 grinding in Geardrak, I looked up some guys rotation and he is getting 16b EXP per minute. I specifically went out of my way to grab the most lazy rotation I could find, where the guy full clears the map without doing anythinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfVIAC0Ybf4The EXP needed to go from level 295 to 296 is 870,403,132,500,795.At the rate he is farming that would take just a bit over 906 hours of grinding just to level up once.If we expand this to reaching level 300, the required exp to reach 300 from 295 is 5.7773008e+15, so if we put our 16B exp/m rates in we come out at just a bit over 6000 hours of grinding.This example is also a lot more generous because Geardrak obviously didn't exist back when Niru grinded to 300, so the mobs give a lot more exp in comparison.
>>737430646Downvoted cause this is classic garbage
>>737430676>kmsYou're already an idiot.Learn to READ you illiterate dumbfuck.
>>737430831After you
>>737430846What does niru comparing classic to gms have anything to do with kms? You are incredibly dumb bro.
>>737430943What are you talking about? The original post is >>737429501, Niru isn't even brought up in this reply chain at all. Did you forget to take your meds lately maybe?
>>737403684there's like one guy who is parasocially attached to niru and thinks he's his best friend. he'll samefag if it means you'll stop making fun of niru. he got all of his posts deleted a few threads ago when he was just spamming niru links. he's like a local thread cow at this point
>check out a random private server on gtop100>they have a laid out structure with release schedule, overview of their changes, and a roadmap of future content>still able to preserve the old school maple identity without going into numaple changesfuck man what are we doing here
>>737431282We're not playing with you, madwolf. Just like how we weren't playing maplesilver with you
>>737431282We are playing with you, madwolf. Just like how we were playing maplesilver with you.
Madwolf won
Nemi will get to hooking (you) up with a cute hag azn gf ASAP!
>>737430676>oh okay what do i get from level up from lvl295 to lvl296?>5 main stats multiple with whatever stats% gear you have>Less than 1% dpm gainAt that kind of level, it just a time sink if you have nothing else better to do.
>>737432238You gain 2% FD per level above the monster you are fighting up to 5 levels above. The highest level boss is Jupiter who is level 295 so there is a noticeable damage increase from leveling still.
