Prey's failure in sales shows how retarded average gamers are. Everyone either bitches about their generic 7th gen sci fi fps that had potential (Everything has potential doesn't mean it would have been good) or that a space station should have had M16's aboard it. Prey should have won goty and no game released after it comes close.
>>737388451kys
go woke go broke
>>737388540>culture war faggotryYou're no better
>>737388663nobody wants a mandatory woke reddit lesbian subplot
>>737388451its generic setting and enemies are boring as fuck>but muh popcorn gunidgafprennys will never fuckin recoverproons on suicide watch
>>737388726>mommy, i had to listen to audio logs that lasted together 5 minutes! The west has fallen...
>>737388451Prey is shit, walking around slowly collecting garbage and trying to hit tiny fast moving enemies with a wrench isn't fun.
>>737388809Talos 1 is the most realized and detailed space in any game ever. Every npc had a story to tell and the devs accounted for everything. Generic is the last word i'd use. The enemies are also designed around being able to be taken down in multiple ways. For an RPG it's way more fun to fight them than it had any right to.
>>737389132>wasn't able to get past the lobbyKek
>>737389195all wrong, it flopped :^)
Prey is a fantastic 15 hour game stretched to 30.There is an abrupt realization at that halfway point that you've now seen everything the game has to offer but the end isn't in sight.
>>737389348>muh salesGamers are cattle that buy CoD every year complain it's bad and repeat. Sales don't mean quality.
>>737388451this game sucked. it starts strong but slowly declines the more you play.>>737389195>the enemies are designed around being able to be taken down in multiple wayslike in every fps ever? except most fps games have interesting enemies instead of the same 3 boring blob monsters
>>737389497I beat the game twice and both playthroughs were under 15 hours
>>737389534>like in every fps ever?Being able to shoot the bad guy with 15 different rifles is not the same as being able to sneak past them, glooing them until they fall to their death, recycling them, hypnotizing them or setting up a turret trap. Also the Typhon make sense on a thematic point of view and look cool enough.
>>737389745nobody does that shit cause you can just shoot thembad design
>>737388451OG Prey mogs the fuck out of this ink blot enemies muh mental health slop.
>>737388451It desperately needed enemies that weren’t scraggly little black shapes. Totally forgettable monsters.
>>737388451remove the sidequest that randomly gives away the ending and i think it's probably one of the better imsims
>>737388891NTA, but all he said was he didn't buy the game. The emotional projection is completely moot as clearly many others did not buy it as well.
>>737390057Try to take down a technopath with only a pistol or a shotgun. See how that goes for you.
>>737388451this game had some serious design problems, namely a negative feedback loop where using any ammo or taking damage in combat feels like you're doing something wrong and significantly sets you back... it encourages the most unfun playstyle possible i.e. constant quickloading to optimize engagements, using melee or cheese tactics to preserve resources.there's cool level design etc but the game feels bad to play. would have been better as a more exploratory adventure game/walking sim like soma
>>737390397That sounds like a Yu problem. There's plenty of resources to go around especialy with the recycler upgrade. And doesn't every game that isn't just Cowaduty have this "negative feedback loop"?
>search for the semi-sacred geometry karaoke segment>male voice
>>737388540>>737388726Recently finished the game and the lesbian audiologs are really not prominent. I agree that they shouldn't put this in in the first place but it's unfair to call the game woke just for this.
They should have allowed you to piss on your russian gf's face as she was dying from her lack of medicine. Worst interactive simulation game ever
Loved it. Game did environmental storytelling better than any game I've played before.
>>737390531I wager half the players tried the recyclers early on like I did, noticed they weren't returning anywhere near the cost to make them and rarity to find them, and then ignored them. I hear when you figure out how best to use them, they actually return a profit. But by the time I figured that out, I was 90% of the way into the game and was ultra low on ammo even with conservation methods like sneaking past some enemies and killing the rest efficiently, went pure human tree. Still ended up short-change for ammo.Everyone always talks about the recyclers as a game changer, but if they had wanted me to play more conservative like resident evil, they should've given that hint earlier on or I wouldn't have been making the whole station extinct prior.I probably could've still finished the game fine, but it took the wind out of my sails to go back and start collecting all the spare objects lying around that I hadn't recycled prior. Turned the end into a boring backtracking slog.
>>737388451>Prey's failure in sales shows how retarded average gamers are.the irony is arkane already knew this
Arkanes last good game was pic related
>>737388451>everything has potential doesn't mean it would have been goodThat literally preempts all discussion, no fucking shit we don't know, that's the point of thinking about things.Your line of non-reasoning is exactly why games like PREY 2017 got no bitches and stacked no awards.
I've got a question about system shock, maybe someone here can help meAfter going down to level 2, the research area, it feels very hard for me because now the healing station is so far away and I lose hp during exploration. am I really supposed to backtrack all the way down the elevator after every few rooms?
>>737395447>play the infiltrating assassin game>they wouldn't go upstairs because a guard said they weren't allowedmy sides
>>737395567this was their worst game until going full niggermode
>>737388663>>737388891Kill yourself, we didn't have to do anything, including buying the videogame. I'm glad you failed and I never want to hear from fags again in any manner.
>>737388451ive beaten it like 3 times it comes with some glaring issues.>way too easy and poorly balancedif you're keen on exploring on every nook and cranny in a room, you can find a nueromod license very early in the first two hours, and craft nearly endless nueromods. upgrades in this game are broke asf and destroy any sense of combat challenge. >lazy enemy designa lot of them boil down to you incapacitating them in some way. which is way too efficient in this game with the gloo gun, prop throwing,psi powers, and the stun gun. its just bioshock ice and stun plasmids with extra steps to it. most of the enemies just have lazy, bullshit design if you try not attacking them in this way. phantoms having passive AOE effects, enemies reading your inputs to get free teleport evasions randomly, or projectiles being teleported behind you or through walls.endgame enemies are just floating toasters that shoot lasers. thats fucking lame.>level design is good, but generic for an imm sim there's no overarching mechanics or themes to these levels. thief, deathloop, and dh1/2 had way better level design that was more varied on a design basis.>muh interconnected open worldjust padding, backtracking, and fetch quests.speaking of the side quests, they just completely suck ass in this game. usually games would add some scripted events to them or something. but prey literally has none at times. some of them dont even have a narrative subplot behind them. i assume they were added in as filler and there was little intention of having them at some point in development.8/10. COD was more fun.
>>737388726It's not just the dyke quest, many audio logs force you to listen to faggots flirting witch each other, i think every character in the game is gay, not joking
>>737391216Why are prey shills so dishonest? it's not one audio log with the lesbian, it's 10 and her quest lasts for an entire playthrough if you let the fat guy live AND you get another quest with the same dyke wrong hosting a dnd session with some other fag, it's pretty in your face ALL THE TIME, when the bitch dies you have to listen her girlfriend's sob story
>>737389534>most fps games have interesting enemiesYou know for a fact that's not true.
Prey 2017 had a very well-built foundation for an excellent game, and they proceeded to build very little on top of it because they wanted to get the game out the door faster.It also needs to be said, the D&D sidequest bullshit was extreme cringe and very boring.
>>737390397>cheese tactics to preserve resources.This was definitely intended and quite a fun way to deal with most problems. If anything I would say a main problem is that, with the right skill investment, normal weapons become too powerful and you can just end up ignoring environmental solutions and enemy weaknesses and just blast most things to death with a shotgun.Still, I would generally agree that a more grounded horror/puzzle gameplay suits imsim better than action combat or stealth does. At least in regards to mixing the imsim elements to the actual gameplay.
They should have called it something else outside of PreyActual prey fans were expecting a sequel don't slap on a established name just try to sell units of what is clearly a completely new franchise
>>737388726There is a quest in the basement with an irish gay guy flirting with a mexican dude talking about eating his ass, i remember it cause i had to listen to it a few times as i was stuck in the generator area surrounded by electricity with the beaner talking about some kinda diffuser or whatever
>>737390397Um, yes? That's intentional. There's a finite amount of resources on the station but infinite enemies. You do, in fact, need to use what you have carefully. The actual problem is that the sidequests have you traversing back and forth between areas causing the enemies to respawn and wasting your resources for a reward that never outweighs what you spent completing it. You're actively discentivized from doing sidequests for that reason. But the actual resource limit? That's a good thing. Git gud.
I'm going to do a genocide run
>>737403754It was supposed to be called Psychoshock, Bethesda slapped it with the Prey name.
>>737403754they delisted OG prey after they released woke prey
>>737403953True and that was a huge fucking mistake, I guarantee it would have sold enough copies to justify a sequel otherwiseA lot of these companies underestimate the loyalty of fans to Classic franchises
>>737403754>They should have called it something else outside of Preywe know. it was one of the primarily reasons colantonio left.
>>737403953While naming it Prey was awkward, Psychoshock is a very unappealing name
Prey was kino. I'm glad I didn't let the negative nellies on /v/ dissuade me from playing.
>>737404469it's a little clunky but it's got personality. instead they named it prey for literally no other reason than because bethesda had an IP lying around gathering dust
>>737388451I don't know mang, I enjoyed it a lot but the DLC was lame and didn't entertain me due to it's general structure. The environment and travelling the space station is great, so is finding ways around stuff or just climbing shit with the glu gun was really entertaining and satisfying too. The powers you get when you level open up more things, strength was always a good one to get to simply move giant crates out of the way yourself. Very well built game, it's just lacking in enemy variety. It's a fun playground depending on your powerset too.
>>737390390shooting lighting out of your ass is just another form of shooting. It is not any different than unloading your shotgun on them. It is not really a "different way of taking them down"Prey had lots of good stuff, I liked the prop hunting, outside of space station sections, spray foam gun, nerf crossbow was a fun mechanic. Overall the station felt like a place that could exist and people actually lived in it. But it had a lot of problems as well. Palette swap enemies, the story overall being shit, I remember some sections dragging for too long, the shotgun being the best weapon by far, some reddit writing, the ending.Overall I think it was a good game but calling it goty is a bit too much. But then who knows, most games are shit nowadays and perhaps it was the best game of its year
>complaining about the lesbian subplotYou do know if you are that homophobic you can just let her die right? Lol
>>737404469It's a Shock game, it completely fits.>System ShockYour upgrades are cybernetic impants>BioShockYour upgrades are genetic mutations>PsychoShockYour upgrades are psychic powers
>>737388451>Prey's failure in sales shows how retarded average gamers areI've seen what happens to successful games. Maybe it's a good thing when games fail regardless whether or not it was good
It felt like it should have been really good but it was just so fucking boring. Everything about the game feels like I just took 50 of benedryl IV and am fighting to stay awake. They had the skeleton of a good game here but couldn't actually pull it off
>>737388451It didn't even do that badly, I think they sold around 1.5 million copies despite the lack of marketing and shit title. Probably came pretty close to making its money back. They should've let the studio make another shock game with a proper marketing campaign, instead of killing the studio with redfall
>>737388451>Prey should have won gotyBotW had a far more robust physics system to drive emergent gameplay, had more fun puzzles, and didn't have a shitty story about dyke DnD drama. And while neither game had a lot of enemy types, bobos had far more behaviors than mimics, and lynels were infinitely more fun to fight than nightmares. Arkane is overrated and the idea that they're anywhere close to LGS is laughable.
I thought it was going to be like the other prey but once i played it i was so confused. Does anyone remember that prey game where you're like a space bounty hunter? Was that meant to be the and ip or did they just ape the name
>>737388451I bought the first prey and had a good time. Why would I pay for a remake of a game I already played, or a souless corporate husk wearing the skin of a game I liked?
>>737407452The same ip* sorry i had an aneurysm
>>737388540>>737388726the story and characters are definitely prey's weakest point. Every audio log sounds like a reddit post. Especially compared to Shodan or JC it's a big downgrade
>>737388451I can look at the catalogue and see you only play this type of generic normalfag game, and see exactly what awful threads you made today. You are a boring person.
>>737403503i do. they certainly have more interesting designs over platformers and beat em ups.
>>737403468>Why are prey shills so dishonest?>it's pretty in your face ALL THE TIME
>>737390623Literally me. I know he wrote the song but she voicemogs himhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFDF_JJxLkU
>>737403754No one cares about this game but contrarians love bringing it up to be edgy
TrueAverage gamer is way too retarded to play any stealth game
>>737408506I did care >>737407452I thought it was pretty okay even though it was false marketing
>>737395141>I was 90% of the way into the game and was ultra low on ammo even with conservation methods like sneaking past some enemies and killing the rest efficiently, went pure human tree. Still ended up short-change for ammo.Sounds like a skill issue. From experience it's perfectly possible to complete every sidequest on the hardest difficulty + survival while going full human, only stopping to craft ammo like 2-3 times during the whole run and having a bunch of resources left unused. Baiting enemies into hazards or turrets is also trivial. Literally just throw all the trash you find as loose items into recyclers each time you see one and you are set.
>>737389745>Also the Typhon make sense on a thematic point of viewCan you elaborate just on this because I'm curious what you are calling out as the theme expressed by then Typhons. Is it just "alien=unknown" so the Typhons being half formed express this.
>>737388451Four enemy types got very boding, very quickly.
>>7373884512 big flaws: The main enemy was visually uninteresting, and the "it was all a dream" ending ruins it.
I'll tell you the EXACT second I formed my opinion about the game:The Nemesis begins to appear after you get to the big open area with the garden and the escape pod. One of the areas that you can go to from there is the best part of the game, where there's a bunch of mind-controlled people that are like walking mines that run up to you and explode BUT they're still consciousness and beg you to run away. Those stupid scripters at Arkane, FOR SOME REASON, didn't think it'd be a good idea to put a check for entering that area to prevent the nemesis from spawning if it was the first time you entered the zone. So the intro to that level was ruined because they're remote-controlled mine people screaming at me while a big THE NEMESIS IS COMING indicator flashes on the screen and he runs out of nowhere, giving me huge cognitive overload.
>>737388451It was good but the enemy encounters got repetitive halfway in, most of the NPCs were forgettable or faggots, and the ending was absolute trash. Best part was the weapon variety.
>>737388451I heard the name and thought it was some shitty remake of that other pray game, so I ignored it. Only once I bought it in a sale and played it did I realise it was a masterpiece.
>>737408997Great, I get to post this again
>>737388451It's all marketing, they failed to advertise it properly, and used a title from another game that already had some sort of legacy.
>>737388451best immsim of the last 10 years
>>737410460>typhon are incapable of making decisions and simply kill on first sightwrong + midwit post
>>737410460that's onbiously not true, the game is littered with anecdotes of some typhon waiting around much longer than others
>>737388451Says the faggot who only just learned about the game from le merchant man.
>>737408862They're utterly inhuman and their design represents that. Their skin looks as if it were made of liquid, shifting around their form. If they looked more like "generic" aliens you see in most games they wouldn't be able to shapeshift as believably. On a thematic standpoint they represent the existentail dread of space as they look like dark matter and are completely uncaring about humanity's pleas. They're cosmic horror in it's purest form.
>>737405898BotW had potential for emergent gameplay but it only shows in the first zone. After that the player gets more standard weapons and there's less opportunity for emergent mechanics to shine. The shrines also ruin it by usualy only having one solution the devs intended. Unironicaly the only time the player is encouraged the interact with the game's system is in TotK's shrines where you lose all your items and have to scrape by to get less conventional ones. Also you literaly crossdress in that game so you can't exactly have a moral standpoint over Prey.
>>737403953>It was supposed to be called Psychoshockthe original name was Typhoon
>>737388451I was waiting for it go go on sale and when it finally did I jus let didn't care anymore.
>>737388451ion fury dlc sales show how retarded gaymers are, if there's no cash for a big shilling operation they don't care about a dlc and an improved version of the base game. I checked the first achievement of the dlc and only one percent of the players got it ( it counts even players who didn't buy the dlc ).
>boring ass nightmare howling and hunting your ass everywhere >psych clusters >having to scan everything for mimics>game being solved by shotgunning everyone and their mother >my turret build being fucking useless as shit because turrets get toppled in less than five seconds>enemies are big dark blobs and not satisfying to fire at
>>737412841>They're utterly inhuman and their design represents thatphantoms and poltergeists are very human looking however
>>737389195this sounds like a reddit post or a journalist reviewit wasn't THAT special or coolbioshock 1 or deadspace is on the same level of what you are touting as "special"For a game like nu-Prey those things are a MINIMUM that predates the game by decades.
>>737388451The game was good, but I couldn't get into the setting. Enemies were gay and the same thing over and over again.
>riley gets a call from alex that doesnt sound like alex at all>somehow falls for KASMA's ploy to kill herI guess retardation runs in the Yu family after all
>>737413350all prey shills are redditors, they will defend pic rel and look you right in the eye then tell you this bitch is not ugly
>>737414004everybody in the game is super fucking ugly. its like they're incapable of creating a model that didnt look like a dysgenic retard.
>>737388451prey is woke slop>>737388540this
>>737388891fuck off disingenuous faggot, we went from 'it's just gay romance' in mass effect to having trannies, pronouns and full censorship of what they don't like
>>737414364It's just their style of character design, Dishonored characters look the same
>>737403754It's been 20 (twenty) yearsYou need to move on
>>737414364they're french you know...
>>737388451I don't trust anything associated to Bioshock to be good not even System Shock. Bioshock is just that fundamentally shitty.
>>737414004gameplay
>>737388451>>737388451You subhuman faggots actually shilled this slop to me and it was painfully mediocre and full of woke nonsense Do nu prey trannies really
>>737414004>>737414364same was true of bioshock, so what?that is deliberate ugliness with a purpose
>>737388540Kek you are truly mindbroken. Same deal as with Dishonored 2. It’s woke because… erm, you play as a woman? Even though Emily is hetero, has normal coloured hair, and isn’t a quipping quirk Chungus. By your logic, Tomb Raider and Metroid are also woke.
>>737388540How is it woke? You aren't even playing as a human lol.
>>737389132100% agree Don't know if it got better as your gear got better but it was so cancer at the start I couldnt be assed.
>>737417365>that is deliberate ugliness with a purposeuh, maybe in Bioshock's case, yeah. they're mutated humans. but normal humans had decent looking character models and art. everybody in prey has a scowl on their asymmetric face but the writing reaches into "uwu were lesbians going on a date" while the typhon are waved away as "abstractions" and "cosmic horror" with their uninspired blob designs
>>737413019Typhon, like the aliens. Typhoon is a storm.
>>737388540lmao that would be even funnier>the plot of the game is>can a lesbian be made to feel empathy, or are they just doomed to destroy humanityshit i wish it was woke, that would be a fantastic plot to accidentally create
>>737417815no? everyone in bioshock looks strange
The combat sucks, no ifs ands or buts.The rest of the game is ok though, do like that multiple solutions just logically work
>>737391216>blacks in space>interracial couplings>lesbians>forced gay content with mc (assistant if male; Ilyushin if female)
>>737388451>Locking the actual game: moon crash behind dlcWhy wasn't moon crash stand alone? It's fucking great and doesn't waste your time like the base game me
>>737418453how did it woke you personally chud
Why didn't they just call it Neuroshock?
overrated as fuck game.
>>737418395Skill issueThe shotgun deletes every enemy in the game effortlessly
>>737418775I didn't say it was hard, i said it was bad retard
>>737418727Bethesda said it's Prey or it won't get published
The Nightmare was such a lame boss enemyAside from the trivial quest line to sidestep it, getting Pyschoshock turned him into a scheduled exotic matter deliveryThis would be fine if like in Bioshock the EM was usable on its own (or if Pyschoshock/Electroshock weren't practically instant win abilities)But in all reality by the time Nightmare gets introduced I have most of the neuromods I want and he's neither challenging nor enticing.Damn shame because the low enemy variety would have been easier to ignore if they hadn't fumbled their Big Daddy
>>737412984>less opportunity for emergent mechanics to shine. The shrines also ruin it by usualy only having one solution the devs intended.One intended "simple" solution existing doesn't mean there aren't 5 others the devs didn't account for, and thats literally what emergent gameplay is.>Also you literaly crossdress in that game so you can't exactly have a moral standpoint over Prey.Except Link isn't actually a fag and all the girls are man-hungry. You have to be a special kind of idiot to liken that to dyke DnD plots.
