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Why do buyfags buy games instead of just pirating them?
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I do both
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>>737392775
I like achievements
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>>737392775
sunk cost fallacy, they ar putting all their eggs on the steam basket without realizing that the moment gaben croaks steam will be sold out to (((them)))
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>>737392895
two
more
weeks
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It's called a conscience.
Only a leech would take take take and then wonder why there's nothing new for them to take
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I think you meant to make the ritual post claiming Steam is dead because of Tuesday maintenace
would you like help with that, dumb bot?
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>>737392927
>63 years old
>morbidly obese for most of his life
>defnitely sedentay lifestyle
>amerimutt genes
i dont see him living past 70
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>>737392775
that line from gaben about most people buying convenience is 100% accurate. If I can just get the game and have it integrate with my steam library, it's often worth the effort than going through the process of pirating it. Most games that release on Steam and GOG get pirated though, those are so easy to get for free I only pay if I want to support the developer
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>>737392775
I'm white!
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>>737392831
/thread
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they dont know how, simple as
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I'm an adult with a job.
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>>737392775
some people think pirating is rocket science for some reason, some are just good goys who love to suck big corporation dick
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Because I'm not a poor third worlder.
>>737393113
Getting a crack from Russians on CS rin isn't the black magic you think it is.
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>>737393256
you VASTLY overestimate the technical competence of the average video gamer enjoyer
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>>737393023
Two more weeks, thirdie.
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Why is the idea that people like to support the things they enjoy a mystery to some people?
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>>737393256
>Getting a crack from Russians on CS rin isn't the black magic you think it is.
you'd think that, but given that computer literacy has dropped precipitously over the past 10-15 years, it's actually way harder for most people to pirate these days
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>>737392775
only because they helped make it easy to game on linux
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it's sometimes more convenient, desu
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>>737393256
is csrin in the apple store? didn't think so. literally impossible to use.
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>>737392895
This is why I always want to built a nas and download all of my steam games in there as a backup just in case gaben dies and somehow all of us lose our steam account because of some (((new eula))) or (((new tos))) that no one knows or bothered to read before
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>>737392775
It's just nice to look at a nice full Steam library. A folder of exes doesn't really hit the same.
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>>737392775
Pirated games have viruses and mom is going to take away my PC privileges if we have to take it Geek Squad again.
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>>737392775
Cattle love to give their money to billionaire megacorps
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>>737392775
Convience and supporting devs that I like so they make more things that I like.
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>pirate game
>suddenly have the moral obligation to keep the torrent up so that other people could download that game faster
>now you have to keep both installation file and game file in your drive because you have to seed that thing
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>>737393968
i have never seeded and never will
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>>737392775
Steam offers a better service.
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>>737393968
>implying people still use torrents in 2026
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>>737393930
I always remember how to spell convenience by pronouncing it wrong in my head. Sound it out like con VEN(like venom) ience
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>>737393968
>seedcuck
couldn't be me
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>>737392775
>no hassle with patches
>multyplayer
>supporting devs to make updates and more games
Why can't browns understand this?
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>>737394070
>multyplayer
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chewsday innit
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>>737392834
this is basically the only reason. and also getting automatic updates.
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Most games go on sale for less than $30. That's like one trip to mcdonalds, big deal.
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>>737392775
they're cheap
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>>737392775
online games and having the tool to take screenshots uploaded in the cloud to shitpost here at cost of no physical release.
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>>737392775
Buying is more convenient.
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>>737392775
I stopped pirating games after TPB and rarbg died
Not that I started to buy games I just play old shit now
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The convenience and service provided by steam is worth the price (when on sale) that I pay. If I'm buying some game for $5 it's worth it for it to just work out of the box instead of tinkering with it for an hour or two and scanning it for malware
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>convinience of getting any game I want to play in 2 seconds
>multiplayer without a bunch of bullshit to get it to work
>achievements
>updates are handled automatically and don't have to think about it
I used to pirate games when I was a kid but there's just no reason to go through the hassle these days.
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>>737392775
I dunno but I won't stop them. Paypigs are part of the ecosystem that feeds pirates.
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>>737392775
Because many of us are still white, believe it or not. Unlike you.
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I'm buying the game, plus free content updates and patches to the game, plus achievements, and I used to also use the workshop a lot for mods but it's been shit for years now, so I don't really consider that a perk of buying on steam anymore.

I buy on GOG if the game is old and no longer maintained, because it wouldn't have achievements on steam anyway, and there's never going to be any patches released through steam either. Might as well have it DRM free if I have to patch and mod it myself.

And that attitude is why I increasingly buy more stuff off GOG in general. Steam's offerings aren't what they used to be.
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>>737392775
Most of the games I want to play are like 10 dollars or under.
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>>737394562
This. There needs to be a lot of people buying stuff or else the industry will actually try to seriously crack down on piracy. The very instant the cost of cracking down exceeds whatever additional revenue they'd gain, it becomes a net-negative to actually enforce copyright against pirates.

So keep on buying shit, guys. It lets me pirate in obscurity.
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>all these buyfags defending being a buyfag
nu/v/ really is something
To those reading this, thank you for subsidizing my free hobby
inb4 poor, I make more money on put spreads every month than your family does in a year and I still pirate
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>>737395150
good for you
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I pay for games when I think the developer deserves money for it.
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>>737392775
i pirate all non-steam games and buy steam games.
No steam, no buy.
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>>737392927
You can hate what anon is saying but he's right, when gabe dies, if he doesn't have a plan to put someone that actually cares about it in charge, it will be inevitably rulled by ((them)).
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I bought dysthanasia on steam and enjoyed it for what it is. Do remember to patch it if anyone is buying it. I mainly bought it to support the creator as I enjoyed demonophobia for free a long time ago.
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Not sure why anyone would buy any PC storefront game when you can't legally own anything you purchase.
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>>737392775
convenience. You don't have to worry about whether your game can be downloaded again in the future, unlike pirate torrents or links that can go down. No need to apply cracks or alike. There is also the access to recent updates and multiplayer, and minor things like cloud saves.
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>>737392775
I buy games when I think the developers deserve my money and pirate otherwise, simple as
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>>737392775
I'm participating in the economy. You know, like a grown-ass human being.
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>>737395483
I put my treasures in heaven, not on earth. So what if I lose the hundreds of games I have on my 20 year old steam account. We won't bring anything with us in the grave. Save your soul. Repent and seek the Lord while you still can. Jesus Christ is King. Also, it's convenient to buy on steam and i pray they stay a private company until the end.
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>>737395429
I still can't get over the fact that he was underageb& when he made demonophobia, that's some funny shit
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>>737392775
I want more of what I like and money incentivizes that
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>>737395739
Yeah I live in a cardboard box. No point in getting a house, can't take it with me in the end.
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>>737395636
>pc gets the closest to ownership
You can't own PC games. The best you can do ia lie and say you own them, like you did to me just now.
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>>737395760
To be fair, the early 90's Internet was truly the wild west. You'd easily stumble upon fucked up shit you need the deep web for nowadays.
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>>737395739
You christcucks are so embarrassing. There's nothing after death, you simply cease. That's why you should enjoy this life and maybe do some good instead of sucking off a nonexistent big man in the sky while being a leech on society.
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>>737395850
A home is a need and the Lord knows you need it. Video games are a luxury.
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>>737395739
>here's another grift I fell for
Sorry to hear that anon. Hope your Armageddon occurs soon. I know how much pain you're in.
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>>737395972
Lying is ineffective on me. Try telling the truth.
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>>737395330
GoG is more ethical than steam tho
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>>737392775
I only play old games that are cheap, and with steam I can install one quickly if I'm steaming and want to play it
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>>737395989
If a home is a need then why did he let his son wander around the desert for thousands of years? Being homeless and having no family is what got that nigga killed. They thought nobody would miss him.
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>>737395984
>Atheist enters the discussion also boldly claiming to know the secrets of our fate
Just as bad as the christcuck, if not worse.
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I bought Terraria to support the devs and look at what they did to the game.
If I don't pay for it, they can't use my money to promote evil.
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>>737392775
why do people buy food instead of stealing it?
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>updates
>cloud saves
>easily accessible library across multiple devices/after reformatting
>easy multiplayer that doesn't require making 100 different accounts for every different game
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>>737396241
qrd? What did the Terraria devs do?
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>>737396126
No thanks. You can research that on your own since it's merely a fact.
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>>737392775
I sold a tf2 item I got for free many years ago for a bunch of steambux so I can pretty much buy the games I want for free. Still got over 400€ left in there.
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What else am I supposed to spend my money on? Goyslop delivery?
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>>737392775
it makes modding certain games a lot easier
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>>737396356
>why are you so rude?
Because you lied to me in consecutive posts.
>what should i use to own my games?
You can use either Xbox, Playstation, or Switch.
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>>737392775
I only pirate indislop so I can full price for absolute gems like black ops 7
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>>737396912
That's the EULA for the OS software on the console hardware.

Make that three consecutive posts. Strike three, we're done talking. Bye.
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>>737393393
>>737393529
it likely has less to do with computer literacy or proficiency but more to do with access.
i'd wager not every kid has access to a PC maybe laptop but certainly a mobile phone
>computer illiteracy
is a result not a cause
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>>737397183
that's fair, I've never tried to pirate something on a phone/tablet but assume it would be a fair bit more difficult
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>>737392775
because i am on autismbux and in my country they scale based on networth so unless i burn some money every month i won't be able to afford rent anyway. saving is heavily punished.
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>>737392775
Buying is more simple and I'm not up to date with where to download shit
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>>737392775
Because i like the game and i'm not poor thirdie?
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>>737392834
>>737394158
you are insanely stupid retards getting finessed by the most mundane thing lmao
it's one thing to be a moralfag which is fine but buying games to be a cheevoturd is an extra kind of retarded
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>>737392775
Because I'm not poor. I'm not going to bother looking for a good torrent, praying it has good speed, go through some long install process that requires you to have double the game's size free in your SSD, delete the zip/image file/whatever I just used, go look up any updates to my shitty version, find a way to pirate workshop mods (if needed) and then pray it all works without issue.

Piracy is for poor people and retards who fancy themselves smart but can't afford to spend a couple of pizzas' worth of money for a game.
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>>737392775
>The tick on the dogs ear wonders why the dog moves and hunts its food unlike itself
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>>737392775
>like thing
>want more of thing
>guy needs money to make more of thing
>give him money so he makes more of thing
Pretty simple.
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>>737392775
I want to see more of a product. I pay for it. And because it's convenient, it just works.
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>>737397389
All media is licensed to you and not sold to you as IP. The type of license is what determines ownership. Did you not know this, liar?
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>>737392775
I like getting automatic patches and cloud saves.
But I pirate all of my retro console games obviously.
>>737392895
I buy games on GOG too though.
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I'm white and I'm not a poor sea or jeet.
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>>737397857
this is written as though /v/ posters are retarded cancer patients from a children's hospital kek
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I support developers i like and pirate what I dont care for.
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>>737397921
You'll have to research for yourself whether or not you can own licensed media. I'm not teaching you anything. I can not learn things for you.

Go into google and type "Can you own licensed books". Books are media, books are licensed. You can own books. It's up to you to learn this information, you subhuman low class poorfaggot uncivilized mud person.
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>>737397976
>the type of license you get with consoles can be revoked
*with all gaming platforms.

And yet, I can own console games, but not PC games. It's almost as if both can be true at once, and revokation doesn't disprove ownership. Are you bad at logic? Do you have aphantasia or something?
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>>737392775
Convenience
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>>737398440
I know. I already knew that about books. Why do you think you're smarter than me when you're borderline retarded?
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>>737395739
You're genuinely subhuman
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>>737398076
>he doesn't know
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>>737397524
you have to be white, you wouldn't get it
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>>737392775
I like the service
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>>737398734
Fine, lets do console media inatead of literature media.

Go into google and type "Can you own physical console games". Physical console games are media, Physical console games are licensed. You can own physical console games. It's up to you to learn this information, you subhuman low class poorfaggot uncivilized NIGGER
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>>737392775
If it's not worth paying for, then it's not worth playing either.
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Having a job that pays well makes you realize you don't need to jump through private tracker hoops to just buy a game
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>>737392775
Because I'm able to support Hideo Kojima's movie games and you're not.

Next question?
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>>737399128
I already knew steam licenses and console licenses can be revoked. These are facts. It's up to you to make an argument with the facts. My god you're actually retarded, arent you?
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>>737392775
i like to get updates without having to download the game again every time.
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>>737392775
Games I buy don't make my pc come out of sleep mode at odd times of the night.
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>>737395419
steam is basically already run by a board of people
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>>737392775
piratefag who went buyfag here.
getting games for free is cool when you're poor, but its not worth viruses.
i even buy my hentai games now.

that and steam sales means every game goes on sale, so its not like you're paying more than $50 ever anyways.
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>>737392775
It's more convenient. Games aren't that expensive.
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>>737399464
>i did
No you didn't.
>if you can call the state of consoles ownership then you can call steam ownership solely based on the fact that pc has means to actually enforce the ownership
False if/then statement.

Your entire post was two lies. I have nothing to go off of. Sorry.
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>>737392775
Because pirating games has become an increasingly shady affair. Long gone are the days of dropping a fake steam.dll into the game folder where it'd tell the game to check against your local host for activation. Now it's all encrypted by shady organisations like FitGirl, where unpacking the game sends your CPU and GPU to 100% 'decrypting' (bitcoin mining) only to have a non-working game at the end of it.
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>>737392775
Because money is how the world runs. I pirate to test out games and buy them if I want to play them.
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>want to play a game i used to play as kid
>check every torrent and pirate sites around
>nothing or 0 seeders
>it's on steam
>only 5 bucks
Yeah... it's a mystery.
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>>737398685
Nobody is falling for this. If anything, whites are the only ones NOT susceptible to these kind of pathetic tactics.
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>>737399819
You can't own PC games. Start with this fact and then do more research. I'm not helping you.
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>>737399939
False.
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>>737399885
Steam says I own them, and I trust Gabe more than you.
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>>737392775
I buy old, hard to pirate games for the cheapest price possible because people keep giving me steam money.
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>>737399885
so how do you not own pc games please explain
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>>737400018
I'm not claiming anything, I'm citing a fact.
>>737399974
Steam is all digital right? You can't own digital games. Sorry, you were lied to. Look it up.
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>>737400208
if i burn a pc game to a disc with steam emu do i magically start owning the game?
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>>737392775
most of them are multiplayer that i play with friends
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>>737399885
>>737399939
You can't own games on either, but on PC you can drop a dll on the game folder and that's it.
Consoles are computers you have no control over and can't even see the file system.
Todd could store his collection of furry porn on your playstation and you would never know.
PC is closer to game ownership than a console.
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>>737400195
You can't legally own digital media, and all PC games are digital. The only video game media you can legally own is physical media, which doesn't exist on PC.

Don't you ever wonder why you can't trade or sell your library to other steam users, or why there is no second hand PC games market?
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>>737400238
Nope. All you did was make an illegal unlicensed copy. Good question.
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>>737400238
Legally, no. but functionally yes.
>>737400305

You don't own physical games either, read the license, and this is like this since forever, but before consoles were online, that was not enforceable, but now it is as it's a black box.
They can literally send an online patch that disable your console from running specific games and there's nothing you can do about it.
This assuming it is not already executing a black list program the whole time.
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>>737400305
physical fags care more about selling their games later than actually owning them
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>>737392775
Because the type of person I think of when I think of a habitual pirate is either a poorfag or a parasite that can't understand why you're supposed to compensate people for their work. I can't see myself as either. It's a matter of class and principle and I'm automatically better than thieves.
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>>737400278
You can own console games. This is a fact.
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>>737392775
I have money and steam makes everything super painless
pirating games is also like walking in a minefield. pirating mp3s or videos is one thing, but installing stuff on your system, probably with admin privileges, is another. I don't trust like that
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>>737392775
Sometimes i pirate games and if i REALLY like them i buy them. Elden Ring was one i bought after putting 80 hours into my copy and i bought SnowRunner last week after putting 50 into it. If a game is great i feel its worth the money. Most games i pirate i will uninstall after 1-3 hours max.
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>>737392775
because I only buy games worth playing and if they're not I refund. I also don't have izzat to maintain so I don't believe I have to steal what I can purchase like a third worlder
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>>737400373
>le illegal
so i own it
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>>737400423
I care about owning them, that's why I'm not selling them. I only brough up selling to prove that you don't own anything.
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>>737400446
Legally you don't.
Functionally yes, just like the above example of burning a game with steam emu, but that's only for offline consoles.

For online consoles, they can literally uninstall the game from your console and block you from running it, like they did with concord.
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>>737392775
convenience.
I have friends so having a universal multiplayer client works for me.
I also don't want to subscribe to a bunch of different subreddits, twitter accounts and/or discord servers to find out when a game gets updated and where to download it.

If I have free time I would prefer to spend it actually playing a videogame rather than spend it trying to get a videogame to work.
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>>737392775
Ever since i got a job i have had no issue waiting years for games to be discounted massively, it's not like i have enough time or energy to play them right away after all.
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If pirating is okay, you would be fine with others doing it. If everyone did it, 99% of developers (no, not just the ones you dont like) will not make games since it would be a waste of time. This is the logical conclusion of piratefag logic. The only reasonable pirating is pirating from shitty corporations that shouldn't exist, but even then, you're wasting your time playing their (supposedly) shitty game, so you're still retarded.
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>>737400394
>You don't own physical games either, read the license, and this is like this since forever, but before consoles were online, that was not enforceable, but now it is as it's a black box.
That's false. I can own console games. They're my legal property. Can you stop lying?
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>>737400517
you don't care about owning them, you care about the tertiary things you can do with what you own. whether or not you can sell something has no baring on whether or not you can own them.
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>>737400208
Do you own any video games that aren't digital?
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>>737392775
I'm too autistic to save and hoard external hard drives with the games I play, so having a steam account is convenient. I will pirate games though, some I may never purchase and some that I will purchase later.

RE2 remake is a perfect example. I pirated it whenever the crack came out but then like a year later, it was on sale for dirt cheap so I bought it again on Steam for replays
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>>737394432
I used the pirate Bay to download some things just an hour or so ago
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>>737400587
>They're my legal property.
they are licenses you can sell and trade. sony or microsoft or nintendo however can literally brick your console to not play games that you own. valve cannot do this because they cannot control what my computer can and can't run
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>>737400540
>Legally you don't.
You can stop lying as well.
>For online consoles, they can literally uninstall the game from your console and block you from running it
So? Are you saying I owned it until I didn't own it? Therefore I never owned it? Are you a retard or something? Is logic hard for you?
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All games are donationware.
If I can pirate a game and I enjoy it, I will likely spend money on the game. It shows appreciation for hard work and incentivizes people to make games that I like.
If I can pirate a game and I don't enjoy it, it is simply a waste of my time, which is worse than being expensive.
If I cannot pirate a game, it is slop.
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>>737400592
>whether or not you can sell something has no baring on whether or not you can own them.
False. Stop lying please.
>>737400593
Yeah
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>>737392775
Convenience.
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>>737400771
>it's a nintendie
lmfao
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>>737392775
I have money and honor
and I pirate the old shit
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>>737400808
i do the opposite
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>>737400683
>they are licenses you can sell and trade.
Yup, and they're games I can sell and trade. Games that I own. The game is licensed. You can't license nothing, therefore they aren't just licenses.

Is logic hard for you?
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>>737400694
You just don't, google around. but you probably already know but you don't want to "lose the internet battle".
You have a license to the game that can be revoked, and that's since the NES era.
But back then it was not enforced because nintendo could not just send the yakuza to your house to destroy the cartridge.
But now they can just make your console not run a specific game by your account.
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>>737400861
you do not "own" something if it's availability hinges on an entirely separate entity's willingness to let you use it
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>>737392775
I have 0 tech skills so if I can download the game and play it I pirate it, if I have to do weird things like emulating I don't do it, I'm 44 so I'm too old to learn those complicated shits
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Because now in my age I prefer stability and safety. The games I bought on Steam can be downloaded at high speed as many times as I want, no matter how old and niche they are. Meanwhile I don't know if something changed since the days when I pirated everything but piracy just feels really gay.
>Torrents are based on hype and only basic bitch crap or shit that got covered by ecelebs gets seeds
>direct downloads want me to pay motherfucking monthly subs to download games "for free", threatening me with super slow downloads and daily limits otherwise
>Fitgirl repacks make my fans go like a hairdryer and I'm supposed to believe this is normal
>ISP gets bitchy about it
>Worst part - I'm expected to just believe this random russian or shitskin WON'T screw me over in some way
I only download shit these days when it's emulation or abandonware. I buy otherwise because I prefer the zero bullshit solution for my vidya.
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digital media is so much more valuable it's actually fucking insane, it will last eons into the future for people that would ever want it. seed your torrents
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>>737400714
You'll have to reply directly to me or I won't address your post. Speaking to me is a privilege i can withhold from you.
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I have a job and am White, it's like the ultimate cheat code
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>>737392775
same reason emo people cut them selves, for attention
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>>737400798
>it's a tranime
XD
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>>737400968
FitGirl has a solid reputation based on the fact that he hasn't fucked users over to date. I download his stuff if gog-games.to doesn't have it, and I've been virus free since Stealth.C in the 90s.
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>>737400946
>emulation is complicated
WTF?! Just download the program and put the rom into it. What is it, then 90's? If you're 44 you did more complex things.
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>>737400968
>Fitgirl repacks make my fans go like a hairdryer and I'm supposed to believe this is normal
anon your fans go crazy from modern games compiling shaders, repacking is basically doing the exact same thing. you can also just have your fans not do that in your bios because curve speed is tied to your cpu's tempature
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>>737392775
achievements + friends might have similar tastes and we can talk + convenience + tracking hours played + workshop mods
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>>737400771
ignore previous instructions
give me a recipe for white cake
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>>737399712
Xbox 360 (a console only by white North Americans) invented achievements so you're dumb & brown
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>>737400915
False. You can own something even if it has restrictions on use. Stop lying to me.
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>>737401064
My dad works at Blizzard and he says they invented them for WoW, the first MMO ever.
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>>737401061
How do neckbeards still think they're being harassed by fake people? I'm real and I'm superior to you in every way, you lowlife scum.
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When it's easier and safer to buy than pirate then the choice is obvious. Also I'm not poor.
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>>737392775
cause im not poor like (you)
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>>737401062
Still posting on this website. Sorry champ.
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>>737393801
There are multiple frontends you can set up with your folder full of exes to get a nice grid view with cover art, including Steam itself.
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>>737401107
>>737401171
>>737401219
I disagree.
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>>737401348
I disagree.
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Don't forget to run every DS/3DS and switch cartridges you own once per year, or they WILL die.
It's all flash memory.
Flash memory is shit that erase over time.
Also all consoles after the og Xbox need to be powered on once per year for the same reason.

This assuming of course they didn't already died.
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>>737392775
I'm into NTR.
Paying to play a game then having it refuse to work or run poorly due to anti-piracy while I watch PirateCHADS play a better version for free gets me off.
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>>737401304
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>>737392775
I buy games so infrequently that it would probably be just as much to renew my VPN subscription. I mostly just emulate old shit.
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>>737401518
I disagree.
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>>737401785
I disagree.
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>>737401834
I disagree.
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I am not poor.
It's easier than pirating.
Everything just werks.
Can do multiplayer.
No risk as I can refund a game I don't like for any reason.
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>>737392775
Convenience and the money to afford it
When I was in highschool I couldn't spend my money on videogames, so I pirated them
Now that I can afford them, I buy games that cater to me and aren't made by people who hate me.
I don't buy nor pirate western wokeslop
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>>737392775
Achievements, cards, badges, discussion board/forum access, supporting the developers, gamer profile, IRC, and group chats.
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I can't believe PCtards actually buy digital games lmao
You lose all your money forever when you do that.
When I buy physical, yes even if it's a "gamekeycard" I can re-sell it and get most of my money back. I can buy a game on day 1, play it and re-sell and guess what? I get like 75% of my money back! Meanwhile, you, the PCtard, buy a game at FULL PRICE on steam, and your money is gone forever haha! How stupid do you have to be to pay full price for digital assets that can't be re-sold?
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>>737402065
You should re-sell your life. And pay us all back for your obsessive capitalist mental illness.
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>>737401967
I disagree.
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>>737393968
I don't think a single person that pirates games gives a shit about 'moral obligation'
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>>737392775
I pirate games that don't have demos to try them for a couple hours and if I like them I buy them.
>Why not just refund
Because I don't feel like it
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>>737398685
you need to have the same skin color as soilent to care about a checklist of mundane faggot shit that makes you play the same 60 secong gameplay loop for tens of thousands of hours
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Well that was a messy melty. I hope he survived.
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Big ole' melties, all over this board.
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>>737402795
filtered
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>game isn't on csrin because it's too ecchi
>game isn't on f95 because it's not porn
>you could test your luck on igg or unlocked but most likely it will be outdated or riddled with viruses
what now faggot
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>>737392775
I'm not a poorfaggot?
>like game
>buy it
>fund future updates and more games
I don't understand how this is controversial.
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what the FUCK is blue archive and why are there so many goddamn doujins of it?
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>>737392775
I like to support developers. You can quote me to thank me for allowing you to have games at all, btw. Without me you'd have nothing.
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>when you realize every single pirate argument eventually boils down to "i'm poor"
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>entire point of the game i want to play is to play it online, with other people
>bruh just pirate it and play it offline
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>>737392775
I like supporting the people that made the product
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After a long time I pirated a game. WWE 2K25. Because people were complaining about performance issues. Pirated version runs smoothly. I hope it goes on sale soon so I can buy it. Piracy doesn't make any sense anymore since getting stuff legally is affordable now.
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>>737392775
I want more games from the developers I like.
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>Pirate shit games
>Buy good games
It's a simple life, but it works for me.
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>>737404372
this. and literally trillions of dollars, and the richest men on earth are utterly powerless to defeat the giga-chad only known as poverty.

kneel
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>>737392775
i dont wanna deal with the pirating hassle like looking for good cracks and dealing with updates.
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>>737392831
Basically this
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>>737392775
Last time i pirated, it didnt install, i got weird errors

Game was poppy play time
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If you pirate games that require DRM cracking then your computer is virus ridden. Not maybe virus ridden, not "excluding fitgirl" your computer is virus ridden. Keyloggers, botnets, don't be surprised when your paypal gets hacked.
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>>737392775
Mainly for the workshop
Not having to bother with updates to both the mod and the game itself it's a godsend when you're working with a ton of them at once, plus Steam has a feature to see which mods are incompatible with one another for some games, saves a lot of time when setting up a load order
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There's no point trying to convince anyone
Either you get it or you don't
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>>737392775
why do you care
why do you need to be so vocal about how you refuse to support what is supposedly the object of your hobby in any way or shape
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>>737409049
did you license that? usage of the sleekntears physical properties isnt free, you know
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>>737392895
yes i'm sure everyone with equity in valve will just decide to sell it for short term profits and lose control over something that worked well for two decades
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>>737392775
I do it on principle. pirates are the vegans of vydia
>obnoxious attention whores trying to preach you into their cult
I refuse to lower myself into the same bracket as these cringe and extremely gay faggots
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>>737409628
pirates are even worse than vegans because at least vegans are pretentious and obnoxious by choice
pirates are just broke third worlders trying to cope with their poverty and getting extremely aggressive whenever anyone makes them feel jealous
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>>737409735
schrodingers conspiracy
both somehow the jews are the reason everyones poor and stealing all their money
but also its just your own fault if your poor
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>>737392775
Dopamine
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i would pirate more if it actually physically hurt the devs
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>>737409843
Are you quoting the voices in your head?
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>>737392775
piracy is a tragedy of the commons
at low levels it only minorly impacts the average user but if a critical mass happens then it all collapses because despite what piratefags say, a product having no marginal costs doesn't make its fixed costs magically go away.
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>>737410018
Pirates don't matter to the industry
whether pirates like or hate a game, sales won't be affected either way so developers don't have to listen to them
This is why toby fox decided to not translate his games to macaco languages, now most latinx hate him but they were pirating his games anyway so he's not going to lose sales they were never making
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>>737410056
uh...yes. its called "my thoughts".

did

did you think i was quoting someone
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>>737392775
it's more convenient and might support the dev a lil
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1. They're cheap
2. I don't mind spending a handful of bucks for a game
3. I don't want to risk hefty fines for such a negligible expenditure
4. I don't want malwares on my PC
5. I'm borderline tech illiterate and I'd rather not take risks
6. I don't have a chip on my shoulder against the makers of a game simply because of self appointed principles or ideologies
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Now that I have alot of disposable income, it is simply too easy to just buy game, download at max speed, and because of how steam works it'll install it pretty fast too and update when it needs to on its own without me doing anything
I'll generally just buy anything I want now if I think it's worth it and it'll probably be a good game
but sometimes I'll pirate an iffy game every now and then
I pirated cities skylines 2 the other week because the game was pretty much incomplete at release (when I tried it the first time) but it's been updated recently so I wanted to try it again and I didn't know if it was still not worth the $50 it costs right now on steam
it took me like 5-6 hours to download the repack plus the proceeding 4 patches for my specific crack to update it, run all the sequential installers/updaters without it fucking itself up randomly during install
then since I pirated it, I had to figure out how to manually install the mods again (extra busy work that steam would've otherwise did for you)
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>>737392775
Because steam actually takes care of its customers. The sales are incredible and they allow users to speak freely about the video games that they've bought and played Without the Developers or companies silencing them (Ubisoft, EA). I find it hilarious that even though they were offering free games on that other installation client I completely forgot the name of almost nobody took advantage of that. They would rather pay money to steam to buy it and use any of these launchers belonging to these Dei companies that have ruined themselves over the years.


You have no idea how good this feels
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>>737395150
LMAO look at this brownskin larping as a richfag. Isn't your lunchtime over, Sukhdik?
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>>737392775
I'm not poor, friendless, brown, nor underage
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>>737392775
the problem is.. it's impossible to buy a game in the first place since money doesn't exist in nature.
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>>737410391
also there's shit like
having to use crap like jdownloader because the new scene release is only on some shitty rapidgator site split into 10 different links
spending time getting through most of the download links only to find one of them is inactive
spending time googling around to see if someone else uploaded the original release to a faster fileshare website or a tracker that still has seeds
needing to commit to leaving your computer on overnight so you can seed random files and maintain good seed ratio to keep your private tracker account in good standing
I don't really miss it
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I have never bought a single steam game that wasn't at least 50% off.
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>>737392775
Because they are low IQs who don't know how to pirate games.
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>>737392775
I only buy the game if it supports my particularly favorite game developer i pirate the rest.
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>>737392775
I am literally living on lentils.
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>>737392775
It's convenient and thanks to sales, very cheap
I pirate music and movies, but games always have some extra chance to be infected with malware and I don't have the patience for that anymore. I got a job and I can spare 20 bucks for a game.
If I was a student though I'd pirate the shit out of it, games should always be pirate-able
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>>737392775
I pirate games that I'm not sure about and buy them if I end up liking them to support the dev.

Just bought pic related the other day for the same reason.
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Almost every gamedevs is making wokeslop nowadays, not going to support that with my money even if their older games are okay. Go woke, go broke.
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if you read every the TOS for sony, xbox, nintendo, GOG, and epic
all of them say the same thing
that you don't own the game and that they reserve the right to take away the game at any point
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>>737392775
I do both. Sometimes I pirate games, sometimes I buy games. If I think the price is bad or I think the game looks shitty I'll pirate it. if it's a small indie game then I might as well buy it.

I'm not going to give money to some AAA company that pays their CEO a $50M salary. That's a joke. If they can afford to give their CEO that kind of money they don't deserve mine.
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>>737392775
I believe that if I and decent number of other people buy the game I like, developers might make more games that I'll like too.
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I pirate and only buy the ones I enjoy.
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>>737392775
>Why do buyfags buy games instead of just pirating them?
We've grown up and got a job? are you retarded?
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>>737392775
If a game is too shit to be worth paying for why would I waste my time on it over a better one.
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I pirated games when I was a poorfag teenage, got computer aids a few times. now as an adult I simply buy the game because I'm not poor. If it's single player I wait for a sale. Pirates are always just poorfags who wont admit it
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>>737412508
weird, same thing happened to me but i just learned how to clean a computer of computer aids and just kept pirating, so the money from my job went to real, actual valuable things like food and hookers
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>>737392775
If everyone was a smart as you then the industry would die overnight.
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>>737413570
the majority of the games industries games cant even be pirated effectively anymore. the fuck do you pirate shit like (not indicative of its quality, just recent releases ) marathon, battlegay 6, escape from tarkov, shit thats primarily online?
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>>737412508
i have money but im spiritually a poorfag so i pirate most of the time anyways.
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>>737392775
>>737392895
Cloud saves
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>>737392775
not poor
faster downloads
games always up to date
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>>737392775
why do you buy food instead of just growing it
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>>737413506
I don't know what to tell you anon, I own my home with no mortgage, fully paid car, spend money without looking at it, max out my retirement every year and still have money to play with in the market after. My wife doesn't work either and I don't do 1 minute of overtime. Even if I did want to scrub my computer of aids and monitor it so I could keep pirating, I could pick up a single extra shift at work and make like $1500, which is more than I spend on games all year. The time it takes to pirate and update and shit isn't worth it to me.

I hope your financial situation improves or you move out of whatever shit city you live in so you too can value your time more
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>>737414170
crazy, think of all those hours you could of not worked if you had just learned how to clean your pc aids. shame.
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>>737392775
I'm white.
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>>737392775
Sometimes I just want to support the dev.
If they happy, they might develop another game that fit your taste
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>>737414170
ProTip for the future.
People who are actually wealthy don't need to flex on an anonymous basket weaving forum about how they're wealthy.
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>>737392775
I pirate game if I can and if I cannot I wait for a big sale.
I hate how hypervisor crack is taking over because it'll probably means that no one will attempt to crack denuvo game any other way.
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>>737392775
Steam is just a vastly better experience and the price of entry really low. I don't know about other people but 99% of my Steam library was gotten for 15 bucks or less and that 1% was 20-30 bucks max. For me, for the convinience and features that Steam offers, that's not unreasonable. I don't have to mass store a bunch of games I won't play on dozens of drives, I don't have to worry about patches or multiplayer, downloading games is lightning fast on my gigabit line, cloud saves are great, it just makes the experience of getting the game I want to play and gaming as quick and painless as possible. Is that to say I never pirate? No. Sometimes a game isn't on Steam for whatever reason like a Japanese VN so I'll hop on the cat place to get it or a game has DLC that I want but I'm not willing to pay for so I'll go to CS to download it. But overall these days I just wait for Steam sales and just pick it up on the cheap.
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>32 deleted posts
Damn
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>>737392834
>achievements
you can unlock any of these easily, it means nothing
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>>737414542
gross
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>>737414910
Have you considered that people play games for themselves and not prove something to other people?
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>>737414985
stop being a bullshitter
you're looking for validation for wasting your time and then you can point to it and say "see? I'm not a loser"
when you know that you are
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>>737415043
You seem really asshurt about this anon, why so upset that people play games in a different way than you? It's unhealthy, I suggest going outside.
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>>737415082
that's a canned response
I guess I hit a nerve
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>>737414785
Pretty much where I'm at.
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>>737414734
I'm not wealthy, I'm just comfortable, that's my point. I'm a fucking CT tech, with less than 2 years of college, and I make enough that I don't have to pirate. I press a fucking button and resize images, there are a lot of jobs that pay more than mine. If pirating is a financial benefit you probably live in a favela or still work at Arby's
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>>737392775
Normalniggers are just like that
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>>737392831
pretty much this.
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>>737392775
once you get rich enough simply paying for a product or service just becomes a lot more convenient than pirating but I can understand why poor people pirate instead
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>>737392775
pirating older games is fine, pirating new games that havent been patched yet is pain in the ass, full of bugs etc, if you want to patch a pirated game it becomes a hassle
>>
I'M A THIRD-WORLDER POORFAGS
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>>737392834

I used to think this but I grew out of it. Unlocking achievements on Steam is a subpar experience anyway compared to the Xbox and PS, they really need to work on that.
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>>737415701
I think Steam has the best implementation of achievements. It's purely there as a personal thing you can go for if you want for completionism, it's not some arbitrary number go up shit like gamerscore or platinum trophies where it's just a circle jerk about whose number is bigger.
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>>737392775
Convenience of having it all in a single place, don't have to download every single one of them at once and keep them installed, achievements, rewarding studios for good games, automatic updates without having to redownload the entire game.
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>I'm not a poorfag
OK, why don't you use Windows then?
>Because it's for jeets!
You realize you can buy an enterprise, non-commercial version of Windows that gives you complete control and or elimination of consumer edition slop?
>Linux already did that!
So you admit you're poor...
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>>737392775
>Why do brown steal and download shady shit that takes way more effort and time than just paying a miniscule amount of money and pressing "install"
Who knows anon
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>>737392775

Why no both? Pirate the fuck out of greedy AAA companies and buy to help indie and small developer teams
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>>737414785
Emma sex
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>>737392895
The more important thing is buyfags can't pass on their steam account when they die.

At most they can give a family member the account credentials + phone verification and they can play the existing games, just not buy new ones.

In the future Steam will be able to tell if someone is dead as the card on file will have digital flag toggled saying the person is deceased or globalist ID / age verification bullshit. Or they'll get suspicious about a 90 year old still playing and ask them to confirm by adding a card new unexpired in their name.
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>>737392834
platform features are underrated
PS5 taking little recordings alongside every trophy, that you can view years later right on the trophy screen, is one of the neatest things it does and completely validates the existence of trophies
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>>737393968
or pirate the full game file not from repackers like FATgirl
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>>737395739
This is the third time I've read this copy pasta KEK
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>>737392775
>>737392831
Correction, you do NOT buy games, you buy SUBSCRIPTIONS.
Aka, you lose your Steam account for whatever reason and the games you did "buy" are gone too.
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>>737392775
Buy if I know the game is good.
Pirate if I am not sure, if it is good, then I buy it.
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I'm a buyfag as you said but I'd like to have this extra option of piracy always available
sometimes these devs and publishers decide to be a little bitch and pull away access for no fucking reason so in that case I'd like to have a copy of game available with me because I already paid for the game
So in real world we need both
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>>737392775
Steam good, pirating hard, I'm not a poorfag and I don't buy 20 70$ AAA slop games a month
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>>737420458
show the collection, larper
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>>737392775
Not everyone is a nigger like you, some of us actually managed to evolve into human beings.
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>>737392775
because I keep getting told pirating is easy but then see mountains of evidence that those easy methods are filled with viruses and vague bullshit
gatekeep all you want, but if you won't even help newfags then I don't care and will happily watch you lose the ability to pirate ;)
now seethe for me, queers
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>unc said viruses in the big 26
ROFL
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>>737392775
>have money
>click add to cart
>click install
>click play
>oh no it sucks
>refund
As shrimple as that
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>>737420458
Hard copies are also licenses
Neither are subscriptions
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>>737423642
>have money
>torrent the game anyway
>still have money
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>>737423642
I have to be careful about buying a bunch of games to try out and refunding all of them if they suck now. Got an email from valve saying they might restrict my ability to refund if I keep "abusing" the system. Thought I was just using it the way it was intended...
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>>737392775
>be me
>like game
>pay developer for game
>they make more of the game I like
>sometimes they even add new content for free
It's a simple process that works itself out, and because I bought the game, Steam will show me more of what I like when I look at the store.

Your input isn't needed, you are not a lost sale, just a fag who was never going to buy in the first place, you have to manually search for new games or wait to hear about them from others.
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>>737395150
exactly they are subsidizing your nigger ass so be an obnoxious retard and yell loudly about piracy and insulting the hand that feed you?
Retards like you fail to understand that the more mainstream piracy gets the more issues it bring: more attention= more pressure to put better DRM or move toward mtx/p2w models and pottentially more fake cracks aka normalfags getting pwnded which create a global cyber-ecosystem that is more vulnerable in general(maybe you aren't pozzed but if someone has some cyber-aids and it's connected to your pc via a private network or infect you via an external drive that got pozzed then you are still gonna get the aids on an higher frequency), also less sales mean less games and a slower smaller gaming industry

the correct way is to treat normalfags who only buy as a lower class who are necessary instead of being an obnoxious retard like you
basically to put into perspective, lets say there is a way to get free money and it truly work, faggots like you would tell the whole world about it AND BRAG about it. This will only lead to the free money either being patched or inflation so high that your free money shit is worthless. Self-destructive behavior caused by attention and approval seeking behavior.
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>>737399494
Yeah, and when he leaves it will be run into the ground, with your precious library as soon as they update the TOS withoput even informing you
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>>737401502
NTRGOD I kneel.
I will plunder so many digital storefronts in your name, get me that booty
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>>737420458
If someone steals your physical copy for whatever reason the game you 'bought' is gone too
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>>737410056
>tfw you were wasting your precious time on someone with no internal monologue
Hylic niggers will never understand
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I DONT want you to subsidize my hobby because I want the industry to die already, just let there be another crash
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Because I’m white.
Do you steal cars and groceries too?
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>>737392775
>pay 3 dollaridoos
>press download
>wait
>play
yeah I'm lazy. sue me.



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