As I get older, I realize that nostalgia is a poison. People who refuse to move on from their childhood game, a game they played during a dark time in their life, a game they touted as life-changing that released a decade ago that didn't really change their life besides make them a fan of that one game, cannot be viewed as anything but anathema to the genre. These sorts thrive on endless references, endless "remember when...", unable to look forward in their life, unable to think for themselves, crafting endless fan fiction to placate their infantile minds that years and years haven't passed."Oh I would give anything to experience _________ for the first time again!!!" As if they'd view it with the same light they had at the beginning, completely oblivious to how the days have come to shape some part of them since then, and not for the better. Perhaps diehard fans deserve their endless slop like the chattel they are. There is one thing I do appreciate in gaming as I get older, and those are devs who ignore their fanbase and make exactly what they want to make, regardless if it's shit or the next big thing. They will always be a step above those who pander to mindless drones.
Shit bait thread, wowzers
>>737397026Emet literally said that.
>>737396969>And I no longer had any belief to infuse into all these new elements of the spectacle, to give them substance, unity, life; they went past scattered before me, randomly, without reality, containing in themselves no beauty that my eyes might have tried, as they had in earlier times, to form into a composition. These were ordinary women, in whose elegance I had no faith and whose dress seemed to me unimportant. But when a belief disappears, there survives it - more and more vigorous so as to mask the absence of the power we have lost to give reality to new things - a fetishistic attachment to the old things which our belief once animated, as if it were in them and not in us that the divine resided and as if our present lack of belief had a contingent cause, the death of the Gods.
>>737396969This is retarded. I emulated Cruisin USA and had a blast. Was honestly even cooler and more fun than when I was a kid and it reminded me that all the stuff I liked as a kid actually WAS really cool. It was a very positive experience
>>737397274Because you're a manchild.
>>737396969Emet was basically peak nostalgia fag tho
>>737397501>says the retard on the board about video games, dedicated to shitposting his life away, all because a guy said "I played a game and it was fun"ahahahahahaha
>>737397617Fun is a buzzword, use your words to describe what made it fun.
>>737396969Old good. New bad. Simple as.
>>737396969It's not nostalgia, the best of everything just genuinely occurred when I was young. You wouldn't get it.
>>737397693>Fun is a buzzwordjust as retarded as the guy who said it originallycongrats on aping a retard, RETARD
>>737396969Couldn't agree more. And it's even funnier/sad when the game they long for has a core or even secondary message about letting go, or accepting that things change.
>>737396969>>737397827>>737397501Know an easy way to prove you're full of shit?When the N64 and PS2 and 360 were coming out there was no mad rush of>noooo why aren't you playing Pac-Man and Space Invaders insteadPeople did in fact used to enjoy and look forward to new things, this doesn't happen anymore and it's the new things' fault for sucking dick
>>737398035It's like that in movies tooUsed to be some asshole would just randomly make Ghostbusters or Indiana Jones or AlienOne day nobody had ever heard of them, a month later they were the biggest thing in the worldThen movies like that stopped being created and now only the ones that already existed for decades remain
I'm not "nostalgic". The world really was just better back then.
>>737396969>nnnooo if you just keep playing games you like and don't friggin support the industry they won't keep making new slop for meee, won't somebody friggin think of meeeeee pleeeaseeeNot my problem
>>737397774You must be brown if you're unable to describe it.
Yes and no. My game is Rollercoaster Tycoon. Still the king, though I think Parkiteck is honestly better.
>>737398065This is good bait, it makes the nostalgia babbies look like they are unable to think for themselves by asking AI to make the prompt for them. Incredible falseflag
>>737398182Are you retarded? Each one was already based on a well-known concept. Indy and Ghostbusters were pulp comics, Alien borrowed heavy on Giger's psychosexual art.
>the hottest cartoon these days is Smiling Friends>watch along, enjoy it, it's not half bad>rewatch King of the Hill>literally like a hundred times better then Smiling Friends.There really is just no contest. trying to extract entertainment from current year media is like trying to quench your thirst by sucking on slimy rocks, while returning to the 90's or early to mid 00's is like being hit in the face by a blast of the freshest spring water you've ever tasted.
muh ancient civilizationmuh people
>>737398468>got BTFO so hard he's babbling about reverse psychologylmao if you're that embarrassed OP you can just close the browser tab.
>>737398584KotH is evergreen because it targeted an evergreen audience, SF primarily appeals to people who grew up on Newgrounds and online humor of the early 00s because that's who it is made for. KotH could've gone much deeper and only applied to people who live in the south or Texas specifically, but it didn't.
>>737396969kind of true. people raised in the US have no authentic identity, no sense of rootedness, they're not surrounded by old buildings or shrines. all they have is a "culture" sold to them for profit by pseudo-demonic corporate entities. if the games they played and the films they watched (basically their entire childhood) don't have any meaning, that would mean admitting their life has been a vapid scam (the truth)the idealization of old games and current repackaging of them as the Vidya Cinematic Universe is a symptom of this condition. humans are programmed to pass on their culture, and for millenials this means taking their dumb kids to see mario galaxy or whateverthe idealization of turnbased combat annoys me the most. it has its charm and can be awesome, in the same way that old films can be. but this kneejerk "ff7 didn't freakin NEED a remake" position is braindead, and the devs themselves admit that real-time action gameplay is exactly what they always imagined but couldn't accomplish due to technological limitations
>>737396969Highly advertised games are now worse.There's still good new games being made, but they're not highly advertised.It's like using more than a million of dollars on the making of a game makes it shit.
>>737396969I'm not sure if I follow what's going on itt. But yeah, people who fixate on OoT or whatever because they played it are weird. In the sense that OoT isn't all there is to life or gaming. Otherwise, it's a false dichotomy. People can watch things from different eras and they may be good bad. To follow this up, >>737398035 the N64 player would look forward to the n64 but also enjoy emulating and checking Pac-Man to the extent that they're arcade games. You might also look at the SNES for alttp. I'm not sure if it's the board or glowies feigning a war-culture where you pick one or the other (a marketed game made this exact year vs N64) and that puts you into groups which isn't a healthy culture.
>>737398529>Indy and Ghostbusters were pulp comicsNo they weren't
>>737399941Indiana Jones was based on pulp comics by George Lucas, this is common knowledge everyone has.
>>737396969I'm glad you've opened your eyes.t. 37
>>737396969It's more like nostalgiafags are a poison. They don't even want to discuss the games they're nostalgic for. They just want to act superior for playing some shitty kids game when it came out.
>>737400712that's the thing though. A lot of older games I like are *not* games I played as a child. The 90's in general (and also the mid to late 80's and early 00's) was just the best time for games. It was. There's no comparison.There were timeless masterpieces dropping left, right, and center, multiple times a year. It was ridiculous.
>>737401308This is absolutely right and true, but also not what I'm referring to.
>>737401308There was also a lot of junk that was forgotten about. Less heavy advertising that seeped everywhere, more word of mouth for the good stuff.
>>737396969You claim to hate nostalgia for being poison, and yet you love alcohol. Curious. >I don't drinklmao fucking straightedge
>>737402392>forgetting about the painyou didn't beat the game
>>737396969I don't even need to read all this to be able to tell you are so in love with your own intellect.I prefer to play old games because they imo generally offer a better gameplay experience and vibes. It's just that simple
>>737396969I started with the Atari 2600. I don't care about nostalgia I just want to play good games. The best thing about retro gaming is the good have already been sorted out from the bad. If you play any newly released game you're taking a chance that it's just hype and you'll end up hating it and wasting your time. Retro vidya gives you a curated selection of good games. Simple as. it has nothing to do with not letting go of your childhood if you didn't even play them when you were a kid.
>>737399280The US is full of old buildings and shrines.
>>737398035have you considered there wasn't a mad rush of wanting to go back during that time, because the current stuff simply was actually more engrossing to play?just like how mainstream games now are incredibly unengaging to play, to the degree that people who only started playing games in the last ~15 years have player skill and game understanding barely above someone who never played vidya before.also another farthuffer could just as easily make a case for why looking foeward to "new" games and "novel" experienced is indicative of a society of dopamine system fried zombies who can't get a kick out of deep engagement with any content anymore and would rather just get new thing dopamine hits instead.see, it's not hard
>>737396969Don't care, visit Amaurot today, remember that we once lived
>>737403376NTA but the average american's cultural highlight of the year is a celebrity and nigger worshipping ad break during a sports gamethey are a brutally uprooted and deracinated people with an identity and history that has yet to form and I hope will continue to improve past its judaic and hypercapitalist and shallow main attributes it carries currently
>>737402915>live in decadence and oblivious to the present>BROOO WTF HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW WE'RE IN HARD TIMES DUDE YESTERDAY WAS GOOD TIMES WTF
>>737403547Anon no one cares about 2026 super bowl, Kendrick's performance was last year.
>>737396969After seeing what nostalgiaboomers on /v/ do, I have to agree that nostalgia is a horrible mental disease that cripples anyone who suffers it. There's one faggot that goes into every thread and says "This game is shit, the best (genre) game was [the second game ever release in that genre from 1988]" and he's too stupid to realize that he has an entire board to discuss his favorite games that has a lot less spam than this board.
>>737403624the fact you can easily name who performed last year should tell you everything
>>737404208>he can't recall things that happened a year agoWhy is early alzheimers a thing with millenials now?
>>737404457i am neither american nor do I use social media or watch TV.there is no reason why I should know this.again, the fact you consider this happening a common part of the zeitgeist that "you just know about", that it's impossible for me to simply not know about it, proves my original point once again.you are so removed from normal culture, you can't even fathom what it's like to not be the goyest thing to ever live
>>737396969>make new dogshit, make nothing good>wow why do people have nostalgia for older stuff more than ever, it's just poisoni want to experience things for the first time again because YOU HAVE MADE NOTHING OF VALUE OR WORTH TO EXPERIENCE NEW SINCE you fucking clownthis is not complicated, if you were able to provide a new experience that was as good as phantasy star 4 or phantasy star online, i would not need to revisit those games and wish i could experience them new again, i would simply play the new thing and enjoy the new exploration and experienceyou cannot, you have not, all media industries have failed on every level for decades
>>737404623You don't know because you dont live in a normal culture. You live in a third-world shithole and seethe endlessly at Americans, that is your culture.
>>737397693Fun has a definition, look it up I'm not going to spoonfeed you
>>737396969there is nothing wrong with cherishing the goodness of your past
>>737404752I am swiss and the US is literally on the infrastructural level of greece, a country we all mock as africa-tier. but good on you for trying to protect your ego.when you get more life experience and maybe even travel outside the US, you will realise I am right. you're just mad right now and pulling every trick you know.
>>737404847ESL-kun...
>>737404736If that were true, they'd be making less money, but they aren't.
>>737405474this implies the average consumer has taste or can discern quality in any way.also the total amount of people playing games has gone up drastically since the 00s
>>737405474It's all on Nintendo. Nintendo is carrying the industry.They make good games for the Switch like totk and Mario Kart.
>>737405474no it doesn't, incredibly wrong reasoningit implies the modern consumer has no taste, or that their taste has been forcibly altered to a lower common denominatoror it implies that consumers cannot go without media, even if all of that media is objectively worse than before they will still have to watch or consume some of it, and to do so most people will have to convince themselves that it's good in order to justify itlook at the media industries and see. movies are making less money, book industry is making less money, musicians are making less money or rather all of their money now comes from tours and merch, literally all of it, almost zero from any actual cds or music sales. games have infinity layoffs, infnity flops.
>>737397693>t.
>>737397501? >??? ????????????????????????????????
>>737396969Nah, old games are just better.
>>737396969Emet's whole shtick is fighting an endless futile war that's killing him spiritually (and eventually did end up killing him physically) because his sense of nostalgia is so strong that he can't accept that times have changed and his entire culture and society are dead forever though
i just want to play good games that run efficiently instead of requiring 800 watts and turning my computer into a space heater and adding $100 a month to my power bill without also just looking like some ugly asset flip slop, nothing like what games have looked like traditionally
>>737396969>As i get older i get balderToo long didn't read.Get a life or fight against crime or something, useless retard.
>>737396969Okay but the directors like that were all killed and replaced by woke psychos who want to maliciously antagonize and destroy the things that people love in order to serve as a loyal soldier in their jihad against God
>>737396969Me, I just continue to eat the poison apple
>>737405474This mechanism would be true if it was not thwarted by population growth including mass immigration
>>737397274>I was satisfied with casualy pressing random buttons in complete and utter dogshitThis says more about your disinterest in videogames than anything else
>>737396969>”nostalgia bad”Opinion discarded
>>737409026He was playing Cruis'n USA, not your favorite game.
>>737408680I cannot believe how little electricity consoles used to consumeThe NES, SNES, Genesis, N64, Saturn and PlayStation each used under 20 watts
>>737396969>nostalgia badok then make something better
>>737396969this. actually owning the videogames you bought was totally shit, cars before subscriptions for heated seats were shit, advertisments before iris tracking were shit, 4chan before /pol/ was shit
>>737403396nta but you are a nigger. played OG pong in 2006 or so, was cool as shit.smoothest controls I ever played with
>>737409647well everythings more efficient now and you can run much better looking games much faster with 20 watts now
>>737411925This is factually true but not directly related to consoles becoming 300 watt space heatersIt's interesting that the first ones to do this were the 360 and PS3, and they were the consoles most famous for hardware failure
>>737397693Why does he need to sell cruisn usa to you
>mad because my ancient shitware mogs yours favourite games
>>737412641CRUISIN USA IS ARTIFICIAL FUN-t the guy he was arguing with, probably lmao
>>737411925Whats the inflation rate on watts
>>737396969False dichotomists are a poison.
>>737409040based and filteredany time someone reduces an entire argument to “lol you’re just nostalgic” you know they don’t actually have a counterpoint. nostalgia exists, sure, but so does measurable downgrade in design philosophy.if the new shit was actually better people wouldn’t have to be shamed into liking it. they’d just play it and forget the old stuff on their own.
>>737396969I feel like most nostalgia fags have an incredible narrow view of gaming, meaning they only play the triple A slop that companies put out and are incredibly dismissive of indie games or lower budget games cause their "graphics are bad" or "all indies are low effort pixel slop" there's no nuance for them it's just black and white.And I don't disagree that there are old games that are good, i've played a bunch of them myself and had fun, but dismissing the whole industry because not every big budget game is as good as games that stood the test of time is stupid.
>>737396969Good ol' "I'm 13 and this is deep" thread, I missed them. You could say I was nostalgic, even.But OP, let me cut to the chase: nostalgiabait is the issue here, not the nostalgic feeling itself. It's not wrong to feel nostalgic or to think something you have experienced in the past was better than what you are being offered nowadays. Objectively-speaking, why the fuck would the present or the future be always an improvement? If I bust your balls right now, are you going to say this experience is somehow more worth than having your balls intact and not feeling the excruciating pain? And that to remember when you had balls, then claim it was definitely a better state, is to be a manchild?The whole "remember when..." doesn't really appeal to somebody who genuinely thinks "old good", because a nod to the old thing is only superficial. Internally you would just go "yes I remember, and you are a shallow imitation of those memories" as opposed to a genuine attempt at learning from ancestral wisdom, if we want to say it that way.
I like new thing and old thing
>>737416596literal fucking satan
>>737396969anyone who says "nostalgia bad" lacks personal observation and chases memes and trends no different from people on this board that repeat buzzwords and can't make actual statements on why a game is bad all empty statements carried by memespeak no actual statement being made
>>737418253Well, you could say a statement is being made if only in the sense of showing how hard OP is projecting his own perceived moral failures on everyone else.
>>737396969Emulating old games will have you keep a level head about the past.If part of your daily life is exploring the past and having a normal relationship with the past, you stop getting so emotional about it.It's no different from reading old books or listening to old music albums. It's not biggie if you casually engage with the past.
>>737396969WowYou just made me feel nostalgic for the time when i was your age and realized how toxic nostalgia is
>>737396969Shut up, Hades. Wow was, is, and will be the best MMORPG ever made.Stay Night was, is, and will be the best VN ever made.TF2 was, is, and will be the best Hero Shooter ever made.Wc3 was, is, and will be the best RTS ever made.
>>737396969you clearly have autism level 2. ur unable to understand both past and future can be good, its only either or for the disabled man like yourself
>>737396969For someone who whines about people crafting endless fan fiction you sure did a lot of that in your post. OP is gay as usual.
>>737419378Holy shit taste Batman.
>>737396969It certainly doesn't help that the world is genuinely going to shit due to capitalism inevitably collapsing upon itself, but you're still technically correct. Looking at the past fondly is natural, but it shouldn't become a prison that blinds you of the potential of the future. There is so much left to discover and build if you open your mind to the unknown.
>>737404856it's problematic because it raises unrealistic expectations which new videogames/tv-series/movies have to reach...
>>737397501His point is valid an your wall of text got btfo. You failed to factor when old games are better than current slop.
>>737409647the RTX5090 draws 1000 watts. At this point GPUs might as well plug directly into a power socket so they can draw a full fat 2k watts and double as a kettle.
>>737397745There's plenty of new good stuff being made. Just not by outfits hamstrung by the burden of having an ideological compliamce department
>>737396969good point. bump.
