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You touch her, you die. It's that shrimple.
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>>737403216
Gotta die some day.
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>>737403216
why was this fine and acceptable back in the days but when japs do it it's suddenly wrong
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>>737403641
https://youtu.be/zto6JZ0HR4M
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>>737403836
if twitter existed when these games came out you bet your ass the same 35 yo walled hags would be shitting their maxi pads
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>>737403216
I wonder why little sisters got a design change for this game only. I like it better than the other one
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>>737403968
Becasue you play as a big daddy, you have the conditioning or whatever so you the player see the lil sisters how they do, as cute daughters rather than ghoulish fishy freaks. It helps with the bond and drive to protect, you wouldnt give a singe fuck if their og design was used.
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>>737403968
They wanted to make the player FEEL like a big daddy. for that you need an emotional connection to them.
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I'll just leave this here.
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>>737403929
But twatter did exist
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>>737404347
they didn't pay for engagement baiting at the time
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>>737404173
It goes way deeper than that when you realize that the game is effectively about a golem gaining his sense of self back and subsequently fighting back against a matriarchal cult to save his child who is groomed to be the “messiah” who will deliver them from their woes. Despite the fact that Jack did the same thing and they for some reason didn’t take the hint and instead of following his example and getting the fuck out just kidnap more little girls.
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2 is better cause its more fun to play
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>>737404076
That's an alright meta explanation but it doesnt hold to any scrutiny since they made you a different type of big daddy that's only tied to one little sister to justify the player not being forced to help little sisters.
>>737404101
That gif is cute.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96j6peCrjb4

love her VA
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>>737404930
My heart... what is this feeling?
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ok im investing into bioshock series. Never played it, never heard of it. Sell me the pitch /v/
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>>737405380
See this little girl? you can protect her from the evils of this world.
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>>737405502
i need more than that...
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>>737405747
You get a bunch of cool powers and a big ass drill to kill junkies with.
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>>737405380
Bioshock - Your plane crashed, you enter an impossible underwater city and collapse it's crubmling power structure with sick ass powers like telekinesis and a wrench which can kill a god. Optionally acquire 30 daughters.
Bioshock 2 - Your daughter is in danger. Rip Rapture a new one before her cunt mother forces her into the church. Rocket crossbow. Optionally adopt 30 more daughters.
Infinite - Dont play it. Seriously its that bad. You cannot adopt any daughters.
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>>737405747
>fun combat
>cool super powers
>10/10 story (bioshock 2)
>feels of the charts
>just a very good game at the end of it
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>>737405849
Adopting daughters is fun until they make you do a bigass escort quest three times.
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>>737403216
to this day I've only played the first Bioshock
how does 2 compare to it?
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>>737405978
>doesnt like taking his daughters out on adventures
cringe
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Why don't kids play BioShock anymore
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>>737406050
Having three daughters per square mile takes a toll on poor old daddy.
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>>737406047
Literally better in every way + no jew shit
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>>737406047
It's a straight improvement gameplaywise, although rescuing little sisters is a chore. Storywise it adds some interesting lore on how Rapture was for those who werent on top. Overall it's way better and more fun.
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>>737403836
>country with a massive sub-section of artists who want to draw child porn
>"wtf why is it weird when the country with child porn artists everywhere makes a game involving a child being close to you"
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>>737406047
better gameplay, less interesting villain, more emotional connection to the plot
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>>737406393
I guess drawing "cp" is worse than making the real thing
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>>737406393
I'm quite sure there are cp artists in the USA aswell, anon.
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>>737405380
If you like games where you are a lone dude dropped into a completely shitty scenario with a hostile environment and your goal is to escape in any way possible, then play bioshock. Also lots of fun interactions with the powers combined with the gunplay.

I'm talking about Bioshock 1 mainly, which is better than Bioshock 2.
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>>737403836
The girl in pragmata is bare legged for no reason. We know Japan really pushes the boundaries with all the loopholes they find to sexualize children in their mangas, anime, and games. Why do people act so naive? Japanese people are notorious for this, it's not a fucking coincidence.
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>>737406447
>I guess drawing "cp" is worse than making the real thing
Nobody said this, retard. Holy shit you pedo-troons always have the most porn fried brains. I can just see the brownoid hands that typed your post.
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>>737406489
>fun interactions with the powers combined with the gunplay.
>talking about Bioshock 1

Funny, as that's the one that didnt let you use powers and guns simultaneously.
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>>737406538
hypocrite
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The original dadcore game
https://youtu.be/Bcpl1TY9ucg?si=42k8sKl1ms9GzWFF
https://youtu.be/Qk1g4GBAAd0?si=HwSotXwBDhLV6O_Z
https://youtu.be/cGm3wrWB7aA?si=gRQm_NB9ugqHc_k8
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>>737406538
She's bare legged because it makes her look cuter. Her design is just that, a cute little girl. There's nothing explicitly sexual about it unless you find little girls sexy, which i want judge you for but it's dishonest to slander a game just because you have a bad opinion towards a country
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>>737406047
Gameplay in 2 blows 1 out of the water. The philosophical elements are much weaker and the additions to rapture's and ryan's backstories feel tacked on, but they are replaced with a stronger emotional core with the interplay between lamb, eleanor and the player as well as various NPCs. You can also walk around in the water a few times since you're a big daddy and its as pretty as it is shortlived.
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Has anyone noticed how similarities between the plots of 2 is to Infinite? Like you play as a dude who is trying to help a girl who functions as a daughter to you get away from a cult led by her parent who see her as a messiah figure and want to use her to take over the world. Both protagonists have a mark on their hand which the cult uses to identify them, and both are trying to help girls with similar names Eleanor and Elizabeth. It even ends in a similar way.
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>>737405849
>Infinite - Dont play it. Seriously its that bad.
Exactly. It's Call of Duty with a Steampunk theme.
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>>737407090
Evil cannot create, only destroy.
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>>737407090
It has a very loose similarity(daughter, cult, wanted man, protagonist death) but their stories are extremely different.
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>>737407090
that's the whole point of the "constants and variables" in infinite
that's why the Lutece twins are even in the game
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>>737407302
Stop using only half that quote
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>>737407583
What's the other half?
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>>737403216
But you have to to touch them to save them.
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>>737407583
Stop being butt hurt, buster!
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>>737407302
>Evil cannot create, only destroy.
*tips fedora knowingly in your direction*

Infinite's story wasn't so bad, I don't really care whatever sort of wank they come up with as long as the game is good. Game stories are criminally overrated.
The real crime in Infinite was the faggot ass rail combat system holy FUCK that shit was gay
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>>737407710
>Infinite's story wasn't so bad
Come on man
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This game was doing cunny years before it was cool
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>>737407302
not desctruction, just corruption and subversion of that which good made.
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>>737407817
What was wrong with it?
It sure isn't Shakespeare, but what was really so irredeemably bad about Infinite?

>>737407917
All this quote ends up meaning is "what i don't like is evil" and that seems like a retarded precedent
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To me the biggest problem with Infinite was that they didn't do enough with the time travel powers, you only had a few decisions as far as the plot goes, and the few decisions you do get don't really impact much. I remember it being advertised as though your choices would play a major part in the game but that was a lie.
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>>737407710
>Infinite's story wasn't so bad
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>>737407678
NTA but the quote was never actually said by author
The most you’ll get is
"No, they eat and drink, Sam. The Shadow that bred them can only mock, it cannot make: not real new things of its own. I don't think it gave life to the orcs, it only ruined them and twisted them; and if they are to live at all, they have to live like other living creatures." The Return of The King
“For the Orcs had life and multiplied after the manner of the Children of Ilúvatar; and naught that had life of its own, nor the semblance of life, could ever Melkor make since his rebellion in the Ainulindalë before the Beginning: so say the wise.” The Silmarillion
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>>737403216
>So what's Bioshock?
>It's a game about grabbing and touching kids.
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>>737404173
Anon was basically right but, aside from Levine just being salty he had nothing to do with it, the main plot was easily the weakest part of the game, it was written by a guy who thought the first game was an attack on right wing politics in general when it was just bashing a very specific and exceptionally retarded ideology (Objectivism). So it tries to do an "erm the left is bad too" story but it just doesn't work because Lamb has no fucking charisma or depth whatsoever, you could replace her with any sort of mustache-twirling villain and the game's high points would basically never change.
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>>737407982
how am I supposed to quote this every time i don't like something
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>>737408093
If you don’t then you’ll be become the quote
Corrupting instead of creating or honoring
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>>737408145
does that mean the first caveman to paint on a wall was good and everything else has been a corruption of evil
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>>737407947
It fell the fuck off once the Leap to the revolution timeline happened. Before that it was pretty good and I enjoyed it. I still enjoyed the atmosphere in that town section with the ghost before the comstock estate part, but the story defiantly got worse.
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>UNZIP HIMMMMMMMMMMM
What did she mean by this
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>>737407947
>What was wrong with it?
It literally makes zero sense if you look at it for more than 2 seconds.
>infinite timelines
>kill booker in one
>this somehow kills all others
>not 1 timeline where booker says no
>BaS dlc
>big daddy plot hole
>and much more
It is pure nonsense.
Only retards say it's good and "too deep for you"
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>>737405849
This. I only replayed Infinite to see Elizabeth with a bob cut, reached the point she cuts her hair, then uninstalled it.
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>>737408248
Yes, it's a contrived plot that requires a suspension of belief. The reason they bring up constants and variables over and over to beat you over the head with it.
It's not deep, but it's definitely not the worst video game story I've ever encountered. The story was serviceable.

Again I am way more offended by the faggot ass rail combat system.

>>737408226
They tried to make it interesting with the variables/constants but a lot of it came off as cringe.
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>>737408248
>infinite timelines
>all timelines that matter for the plot branch from Booker being baptized or not
>Booker dying before a choice is made gets rid of them

It's anticlimatic but it makes sense, atleast until Burial at Sea comes in and drowns the plot in an ocean of holes.
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>>737408350
>suspension of belief
More like a lack of brains.
The game's creator doesn't even understand it.
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>>737408470
There's nothing TO understand, there are no rules when it comes to time travel because it isn't real.
You're begging consistency from something MADE UP.

Under the game's own logic Elizabeth has the power to control time, so she drowns Booker 30 years before the events of the game at his Baptism and establishes it as a universal constant. It's not especially smart, but it is technically consistent.
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>>737407947
You introduce time travel, your story is shit by default.
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>>737408436
>kill og booker?
>no kill our booker
>and no other timelines where booker became comstock any other way
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>>737408531
Not entirely true, Singularity is a great game.
The twist at the end when you have to choose between shooting yourself or the bad guy is fun.
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>>737408067
The first game doesn't even really critique Objectivism though. Andrew Ryan acts like a fascist hiding behind objectivist rhetoric because that's the only kind of villain leftists understand.
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>>737408627
It's a fun game, but the story is crap if you think about it for 10 seconds.
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>>737408781
Time travel stories do tend to be a bit wanky.
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>>737408556
Comstock is directly tied to Booker being born anew at that baptism. As for which Booker died there, it's an awkward situation where our Booker and Booker at that moment in time function as the same individual for causality due to the Elizabeths newly achieved godlike powers.
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>>737408627
The villain just building the reactor thingy again after we destroy it is a better twist honestly. We could have just shot him instead of us when we went to the past and that'd make things more akin to the original timeline.
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>>737403216
In 2010, I wasn't a father. I was playing this game. When I heard a Little Sister scream "Daddy!" when attacked by a splicer when collecting Adam, I immediately wanted to kill the world if it meant saving this child.

Leftists, fags, and feminists think this is men wanting to fuck children or control them. All real men heard that and immediately wanted to keep the child safe because men want to protect the innocent.
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>>737407710
>Infinite's story wasn't so bad,
It was FUCKING awful.
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>>737403216
I've got a prawn to pick with her though
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>>737409163
The setting was cool though. You're probably just mad because the cute black girl had to die
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>>737409296
>The setting was cool though.
Yes. It was. It made no sense in execution.
>You're probably just mad because the cute black girl had to die
You mean the woman that wanted to kill a child for racial reparations? And then was retconned to her saying "It was only a false threat" only to forget that she was also trying to kill Booker for no reason.

And this isn't even getting into the idiocy that is the multiverse storytelling WHICH IS THE SPINE OF THIS ENTIRE STORY.
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>>737407710
>Infinite's story wasn't so bad,
you and whoever put pen to paper that a plot point in the game was going to a different dimension to get guns should be fucking murdered. go to a different dimension to get guns. holy fucking shit. just, jesus christ, literally worse plotting than final fantasy xiii, done absolutely, positively without a trace of awareness of how fucking retarded it is and how much it fell since bioshock 1 didn't suck ass. ken levine should be put to death, unironically.
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>>737406447
>loli apologist
>Resorts to false dichotomy
>Sand found in the desert ahh scenario
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>>737409393
>worse plotting than final fantasy xiii
That's saying nothing since XIII doesn't have a bad plot.
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>>737409393
>you and whoever put pen to paper that a plot point in the game was going to a different dimension to get guns should be fucking murdered.
Absolutely. Why wouldn't you go to a universe where no one cared who you were and you were free to go where you wanted instead of getting guns for people, especially in a new universe that they had no relation to you? Ken Levine is a hack writer.
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>>737409442
You are a dumb nigger. XIII's plot is WORSE than Kingdom Hearts 3's plot, which is simply Sora has to figure out what he does in order to figure out what to do next. XIII is that, but without the decency of having halfway likeable characters and intentionally (woefully over)using retarded verbiage to attempt to sound more interesting than it actually is. A party that absolutely loathes one another doesn't help an already stagnant plot, that we need to concern ourselves with why Hope can't communicate with Snow so instead plots to kill him, for like half of the runtime of the game. Jesus Christ, you are a fucking retarded nigger. Your kind used to at least have shame. I hope you are shameless in front of the wrong person with a gun, for everyone's sake. Someone should put you down.
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>>737405380
Infinite is trash and Ken Levine is a hack fraud
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>>737409376
Yes, that one! Well when you put it that way, it sounds pretty bad
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>>737409805
I'm whiter than you.
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>>737409969
And yet you have the taste of a nigger, making you an honorary nigger.
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>>737409890
I'm sure adding more gifs and images will certainly make you look more right instead of looking like an immense retard.
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>>737404101
>>737404930
>>737405087
Are zoomers aware this is not what the protag looks like?
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>>737410035
>t. projecting
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>playing as an actual big daddy
>drilling everyone in the face is so good you can even center your playstyle around it
>all the guns feel great and have amazing alternate ammo with different uses and traps
>abandons a big twist in favor of more personal and heartfelt storyline
>Sinclair is the broest of all bros
>adorable Little Sisters have hilarious commentary as you go around capping splicers
>FUCKING BEES
Real niggas have loved BioShock 2 since the beginning. I still got gifs and fun shit from back in the day, and I even bought the collector's edition with the artbook and vinyl record. Top tier dad game.
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>>737410932
Are you aware that there is more than 1 big daddy?
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>>737411250
>drill rush
>better weapons and ammo types like you said
>guns and plasmids AT THE SAME TIME
>trap and combo plasmids
>optional defense challenges actually made enjoyable by putting your traps to good use and leaning into big daddy roleplay
>no awful escort mission and final boss at the end
>streamlined hacking
Gameplay was superior in every way across the board it can't even be argued. And I've always argued that while the story isn't original it is far better executed. More emotional and immersive with the big daddy roleplay, Sinclair is great, the major villains of each area feel more human. The first game is cool with the big twist but it relies on it too much, once Ryan is dead the rest of the game falls apart since Fontaine just sucks. The only thing the first game did better was having more horror, which 2 only has a little bit in Pauper's Drop.
Eleanor is great especially in the end, she btfo Levine's annoying Elizabeth, she's so much more memorable despite only appearing at the end. The way you treat little sisters and the area bosses impacting her behavior and the ending is impactful and gives replay value. There's actually a weird oversight of that system with Alexander. He begs you to end his suffering when he's sane, but killing him counts as a bad point for Eleanor. The game allows 1 death to still get the good ending, which makes me think the writers knew it was a little dumb.
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>>737410932
Are retards aware nobody ever claimed that?
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>>737411487
All these years and I still can't unsee Bomberman.
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>>737403216
Bioshock 2 is that one game I never get bored of replaying.
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>>737406593
They're more hobo-esque and you're rescuing them, and they're not your companion throughout the whole game. Also they're ugly so that's not really pedo-bait. The pragmata girl is a robot that's purposely half bare.
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Little sisters are so cute I would die for them
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>>737411656
I personally missed the Pipe Dream hacking, but I know that's entirely me being a nerd and that the new version is inherently better and doesn't kill the pacing of the gunfights. Eleanor is so much better than Elizabeth, it's not even debatable. I wonder if Ken Levive was just that salty about another company making 2 that he felt he had to prove something. Well, he certainly proved that he doesn't know jackshit about what he wanted to do.
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>>737411656
She got nice cheeks too
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>>737406702
>She's bare legged because it makes her look cuter
How the hell is a little girl dressed more revealing cute? That is sexual. When animators design a cute little girl for a children's movie or something they give her a cute face and hair and a cute outfit, they don't say "let's make her have no pants and be barefoot." I don't have a bad opinion of Japan, they make the best games, but they have a problem with men not so subtly making loads of entertainment where they sexualize little girls. It's literally a loophole.
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>>737412045
>the amount of excuses
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>>737411850
Best entry in the BioShock franchise and a damn fine game.
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>>737412073
The pipe dream hacking isn't inherently unfun. I enjoyed it even though I preferred BioShock 2's hacking. And yeah, Elizabeth is inferior to Eleanor's gameplay (and story) inclusion.
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>>737412056
This guy gets it.
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>Pragmata for uncs
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>>737403968
because the character models of bioshock 1 are grotesque ass all-around.
2K hired better modelers for Bioshock 2.
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Post yfw:
>"Done and dusted, Father"
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>>737413062
It's why all of the "human" model characters are either behind masks or shrouded in shadow. They probably didn't have enough time to make unique character models for them, especially to match their "audio log" faces.
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>>737404392
true
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>>737408248
>this somehow kills all others
that was never a thing.
the point is that elizabeth, in all instances, must hunt down and kill booker in all instances, lest he become colmstock
the theoretical timeline where he gets to become old and not be colmstock or whatever doesn't come up

Personally I saw it as a loop that elizabeth and various versions of booker were FORCING into existence due to trauma and paranoia.
It echoed the earlier thing with the nigger/irish rebels being just as evil as their oppressers.
Elizabeth is a monster born of oppression as well.

its definitely not 2deep4u bullshit, its just not that good, and rather confusing.
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>>737403216
I got all of them pregnant in my playthrough of 1 and 2.
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>>737412975
>Pragmata
Isn't that game just the pipe hacking game from bio 1?
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>>737413301
Fontaine being a waders model was especially egregious
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>>737408248
The story was about low-effort anime plot tier. But what offended me, was that it attached the shit-stain that ruined most comic universes to the Bioshock franchise, that being the multiverse and parallel timelines.
Multiverses are fine if the alternate universes are distinctly their own universes, but instead most of time we just sloppy shit that is parallel timelines of slightly altered timelines. A sloppy mess of shit, just so we can have 4000 slightly different copies of batman.
Time travel and parallel timelines is where all stories go to die. Everything has no impact anymore because every victory or loss has another timeline where the opposite happened, eventually turning a coherent story into a clusterfuck of nonsense and nihilism.
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>>737408719
>Objectivists don't even realize when they're being critiqued because they unironically think it's okay to kidnap and mutate innocent children
You can't make this shit up man.
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>>737412823
Better connection, better daughter, better emotions, better powers, based daddy-daughter tagteam fighters. Also kinda hot.

>>737412975
I love this but it needs to be a Subject Delta version.
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>>737414479
Your reading comprehension is lacking.
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>>737416203
Sinclair was such a bro.
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W-what happens when Eleanor with absorbed Delta finds a boyfriend and they get, you know, intimate?
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>>737411250
>all the guns feel great and have amazing alternate ammo with different uses and traps
The remaster fucked up the spear gun
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>>737411850
I think Lamb really just needed a big hard cock
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>>737405087
Legit had a baby rabies moment while playing Bioshock 2 from those ads and had to stop playing for awhile -- but I can't meet a single fucking woman because I'm a stupid fucking chud.
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>>737417081
Same bro
I legit wanted to have 10+ kids after hearing the voice lines and playing the sections where you have to protect the little sisters.
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A lot of the little sister dialogue doesn't seem to trigger in the game. I wonder if it's intentionally disabled or a bug
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>>737417005
What'd they do to it?
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>>737417221
https://youtu.be/rHCQYJdlXyo

I think it was this one. I think it could be another one I can't seem to find, but I don't know why it hit me so hard.
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>>737417737
For me it's when they clime into the vent.
I waited until they were in before leaving.
https://youtu.be/DVbkO-OYJB4
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>>737417991
Climb
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>>737417221
>>737417737
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>>737418037
We are all ryan gosling.
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>>737417028
That's the problem. She got big hard cock, with the result being Eleanor. Then she lost the cock, and no other cock will do. What do you even do in such a situation? You just go bonkers
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LETS NOT FORGET THE BEST PART OF BIOSHOCK 2
fuck games for windows live
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>>737417991
>I waited until they were in before leaving.
Every single time. I know it's essentially just a tiny cutscene and no splicer could possibly get them before they crawled it. But I still would always wait, every time.
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I always liked the mixture of saving one for story or killing one for power
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>>737418274
love the game, but never had the chance to try the mp
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>>737418278
How did they make something this Precious? how is that even possible? pure magic.
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>>737418537
We may just be hardwired to want to protect tiny, fragile things like them. Even though apparently little sisters are very hard to kill due to the ADAM slugs regenerating any injuries. But you don't want it to happen in the first place. I may need to buy Pragmata.
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>>737418649
>We may just be hardwired to want to protect tiny, fragile things like them
Undoubtably. The feeling i feel is something primal. i would give my life for these girls.
>Even though apparently little sisters are very hard to kill due to the ADAM slugs regenerating any injuries.
I didn't know that! that's pretty cool.
>spoiler
I don't recommend it. It's really bad from what i hear.
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>>737403216
For me the child represents forced conformity and I hate people forcing conformity on me so I killed them to free them and free myself.
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>>737403216
>Pragmata if bad
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>>737418809
Pragmata is fine. What you're hearing is faggots angry that theres a little girl, people uohing, the usual shit. Youre just parroting bullshit without playing it.
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>>737403216
>Pragmata if good
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>>737418809
Not all guys have it, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't have those protective urges. Probably comes from all the babysitting.
>I don't recommend it. It's really bad from what i hear.
Aww, but I really liked the demo...
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>>737403216
I 100%ed the game back in the day.
The mp was really broken but it was pretty funny.
Some of those trophies I only got because I was the only player in the server lmao. I remember some guy knew how to wall break the game and just walk in the ocean while holding the little sister.
Also remember the resurrection tonic to be fucking broken. Having to kill the same guy twice to count as one kill was beyond annoying.
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>>737418965
>What you're hearing is faggots angry that theres a little girl
What i hear is the game is piss easy and the "gameplay" is just captcha.
>>737418994
>Not all guys have it, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't have those protective urges. Probably comes from all the babysitting
I'm kinda jelly you had a babysitting job. it seems like an easy time.
>Aww, but I really liked the demo...
It's your money, anon. i really recommend watching some gameplay first.
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>>737418362
it was absolute mayhem and chaos, the sound design was insane so it was either calm as fuck or sudenly very loud. i didn't play that much but i have very vivid and fond memories of it.
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>>737403216
I associated these things to chucky more than to alice.
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>>737406538
>The girl in pragmata is bare legged for no reason.
Play the game before saying something so retarded. There is a very specific reason why she is bare legged, and it's revealed early enough in the game.
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>>737419983
KEK dog that sounds like Kojima and Quiet.

Girls like wearing dresses, simple as. (Or with Quiet, a bikini) No need to overcomplicate it.
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>>737420030
Hugh literally asks Diana in a cutscene why she's not wearing shoes. She answers because that way she can directly absorb energy from the base ground.
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>>737420594
based
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Bioshock 2 is da best
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>>737411656
Man I can't believe we went from this to fucking bioshock infinite
I get the urge to replay bioshock 2 or 1 sometimes, but I have absolutely ever wanted to replay infinite for any reason.
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Johnny fuckin' topside!
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>>737421552
I'm ashamed to have bought Infinite at launch. Thought it was going to be so much better than it was. I've never bothered trying it again after beating it once.
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>>737408719
Anon, you literally identified the critique which is not an achievement at all since its so in your face. Inside every libertarian is a tiny dictator. Bringing about an objectivist utopia where everyone acts in rational self interest means that eventually you will find yourself at the mercy of someone else's rational self interest and then it becomes a contest of control just to survive. Apply it on a societal level and boom. Establish a utopia, 5 years later you get civil war.
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>>737407710
If I see someone defend infinite's story, okay, maybe they're just 15 years old. But defending it for its gameplay is just insulting.
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>>737406047
Pretty much all the plasmids and weapons are viable, combat-wise, so there's some reward to experimenting with your layout. Even Decoy is super useful when it's upgraded. I remember it being total garbage in 1. Upgraded Cyclone (also pointless in 1) lets you combine it with other plasmids to set traps and stuff, which you kind of need for the guard-the-little-sister parts - yes, that part you probably hated in 1, but Delta controls less clumsily than Big Daddy Jack did
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>>737403216
Why do you freaks want to fuck your daughters so much?
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>>737423996
????
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>>737408530
>and establishes it as a universal constant

Nowhere is this stated and even if it was it opens a whole other can of worms, most notably the fact that B@S happens because Elizabeth has to become a timeline shifting mass murderer precisely because it DIDN'T change every timeline.

You reply a lot defending this game for someone that has gone from saying 'its not bad' to 'its not shakespeare' to 'its merely servicable'. Have some humility
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>>737423996
Unironically kill yourself. The little sisters are not to be lewded. they are for love.
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>>737423976
>you kind of need for the guard-the-little-sister parts
Honestly those parts are REALLY just an excuse to have more combat arenas which are all really good, I’m always excited to do another protection mission in bioshock 2 because I know it will always be a fun gauntlet.
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>>737413062
iirc they ran out of money and time and many places where non-splicers appear were last minute additions, like the Tennenbaum section.
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>>737423996
Why is it that people who like the BS 2 sister design are always accused of pedophilia and never necrophilia? They do look like corpses after all.
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>>737403216
Patient zero for "gruff anonymous male protects helpless child" offspring substitute soicore
Still the best Bioshock though
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>>737403216
Even with a condom?
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What Tin Daddy gon' do?
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>>737424781
The bees would be deployed.
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>>737411656
>The way you treat little sisters and the area bosses impacting her behavior and the ending is impactful and gives replay value
I'll save everyone some time some time. If you sacrifice even one sister, Eleanor becomes a mass-murdering psychopath and you will have to listen to her slaughter the entire orphanage.
I ended up not using the extra ADAM ...
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>>737423996
I get find Eleanor attractive but nobody wants to bugger the Little Sisters
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>>737424781
As long as she passes the pregnancy test you're fine.
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>>737424903
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Rather liked bioshock 2 for including the messy and tragic parts of dad rage, specially the other alpha series who are completely insane suicidal berserkers. Feel like most works sanitize or glamorize it too much and it takes away from how raw, animal and visceral it really can be.
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>>737406047
gameplay is better but writing is worse, which you might have already guessed consider them giving it >>737406047
a woman villain
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So busted.
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>>737424750
>gruff anonymous male protects helpless child
Nothing wrong with that.
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>>737425792
Swarm is more OP
>autonomously seeks out and damages+stunlocks enemies
>enemies that die from it are turned into proximity mines that release more swarms



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