have you taken the HDR pill?
what do people think of basic hdr 400? my whites are always too bright and look shit so i turned it off on my tv
>>737411618Real HDR starts at 1000
>>737411550An OLED with hdr is unironically the biggest upgrade you can make besides a new GPU or going to a new console gen
>>737411618>>737411695what do those numbers actually mean? is it just brightness?
>>737411550It can look very nice once it's all properly calibrated in a nice dark room.
>>737411550>why havent you taken the HRT pill yet?
>>737411916this, but sometimes it's a massive pain in the ass and not worth it depending on the game
>>737411695>he doesn't have OLED
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>>737412481wait HDR can use sRGB? i thought that was just for SDR
>>737413197HDR 400-600 isn't HDR, it's a meme
>>737413365so why is that the standard for OLEDS?
>>737413498True blacks are different
Just got a mini led tv, it's pretty good, can barely notice any backlight on the blacks around light stuff and don't have to worry about burn in
>>737413498The naming is confusing because LCD displays that can't show colors in the HDR range get the DisplayHDR 400 badge.
>>737411550how do people make it work without native HDR support? i have the correct ICC file and i force HDR with special k but it still looks washed out
>>737411806OLED monitors aren't bright enough to make HDR pop. HDR is more impressive on brighter monitors.
>>737418068Perfect blacks and mediocre highlights > Eye searing highlights and mediocre blacks
>>737411550Hdr for me is like the difference between regular goldfish and uhhhh....cinnamon goldfish.
>they fell for the oled meme
>>737419713Just play in the dark bro.
I bought a cheap but top end mini led from Costco on sale a few years ago and about a year ago I upgraded my pc to a hdmi 2.1 gpu and bought a long ass hdmi cable and play at 4k 144hz on the tv. HDR on tv is incredible with crazy brightness over 2000 nits and stuff. It made me then want to buy a monitor with HDR and I did but monitor HDR tech fucking sucks right now. Dont buy a HDR monitor just buy a tv.
>>737419843he posts those images in every monitor related thread no matter what the topic is,, dunno what his motivation is
>>737419713oledkeks will never get to experience true HDR
>>737419713This is why I bought WOLED.
>>737411550HDR just is not ready yet imo. Too many games either have bad HDR, confusing and inconsistent settings, and it's not easy on the user end to figure out how to calibrate it. I've had an HDR OLED for years now and I still don't know what settings to enter sometimes. I've also never been happy with how it looks when it comes to movies and TV either. When the stars align you'll get the best looking image you've ever seen in your life, most of the time though it's underwhelming or looks worse than it does without it. The set up and implementation desperately needs to be automated and unified.
>>737411550Yeah it's amazing. I watch all my anime and play all my games in HDR with RTX HDR.
>>737411550I have taken the QD-OLED looks better but the coating is so shit and fragile it's driving me (nigga that's) NUTS so I'd rather buy a fucking WOLED or mini RGB TV instead pill
>>737419713>buy QD OLED monitor >get way better colours than WOLED>but turns purple if light shines on it>has brightness dimming issues >buy WOLED>has a more refined dimming algorithm >but has worse colours than even QD mini LED because of the forced white pixel >has a serious banding issue which makes makes it a panel lottery Buying OLED monitors is dumb right now when you're literally a beta tester since they have so many problems and companies are still trying to figure out basic shit like getting around the fact burn in is inevitable under normal conditions because of recurring static elements in PC desktops. They've attempted to mitigate it with the pixel refresh and shifter tech but it's still flawed.
I don't like that it sets my monitor to max brightness, I can increase vibrancy myself using shaders
>>737421031>>737421058> WOLED has worse colorsLG pretty much solved this problem with 4th gen WOLED.
>>737411618You still get 10bit colour.Not sure if worth, though.
>>737421058I've been using a 42 inch LG OLED with my PC for 5 years now and don't have any signs of burn in. Havent gotten it on any of my recent phones either. I'm pretty sure burn in has largely been solved by now. It definitely used to be a problem basically all my OLED devices that were made before 2019 or so got burn in, but it hasn't happened to me with anything newer.
>>737421058>but turns purple if light shines on itwhy would you shine light on it? it's not a tv that stands in the living room
>>737420658trueblack mogs literally any type of lcd hdr
>>737421093>solve WOLED colors are still amazing even though they're a little worse than QD, it wasn't really a problem
>>737421093At high brightness? I don't believe it.I'd still buy it over QD fragile shit.
>>737421370i love my QD but cleaning it gives me anxiety
>>737421473I returned my AW2725DF because of this shit.
>>737421093You'll never be able to have colours as good as QD OLED as long as there is a white pixel there which is what the W in WOLED stands for. White desaturates other colours. QD OLED doesn't need a white pixel it just uses regular RGB so the colours can be saturated as fuck which is why QD OLED has far better colour gamut, colour brightness and colour saturation.>>737421163TVs have much more powerful processors and better protective algorithms as a result. And also in the particular case of LG TVs you get a 5 year burn in warranty anyway. Not with their monitors.>>737421169Literally any light hitting the display turns it purple. Light from a window or something.
>>737421553>Light from a window or something.true, you shouldn't use it in a bright room. i just use curtains and a dim light in a position that can't be reflected
>>737419713OLED monitors are definitely very dim compared to top end mini LED monitors (TVs are a different story), but blooming can be distracting. I got like the best VA monitor from last year with 2000 nits HDR performence and 1152 dimming zones, blacks are almost OLED deep but when present next to bright elements you can see the haloing, subtitles in particular can cause bad haloing. That's simply the trade-off right now - amazing brightnes and deep blacks but with blooming versus precise perfect blacks with a dimmer to much dimmer image that you get from OLEDs.
>>737419713I love blooming.
Should I buy a WOLED TV or mini rbg TV? I want to use it as a huge pc monitor. No I don't want to bother with qd because of the retarded coating.
>>737422374Worst case scenario but I agree it's quite bad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15aIdl-HKWc
what's blooming and how is it different from the natural "bloom" that happens in any panel (including OLED) when there's bright white against a black background?
>>737411550>have HDR monitor>it fucks up>send to manufacturer for replacement>have to break out my standard monitor in the meantime>it's like going from watching technicolor movies to modern day color graded slopI didn't realize what a big difference it made with shit as simple as browsing 4chan, and how spoiled I was for having it. Replacement should be here any fucking day now...
>>737422121Monitors won't be able to have as good blooming suppression as TVs because the processors in monitors aren't as powerful as the ones you get in TVs. Modern day full array local dimming TVs are like 98% as good as OLED when it comes to black levels and while blooming may never fully go away till micro LED becomes mainstream, the tech is at a point where there are no longer trade offs between better picture quality and blooming. For example the upcoming RGB LED TVs use RGB backlighting so even if hypothetically a small star is smaller than the zone that needs to illuminate it, if the star is like red or something for example, the blooming will also be of a red hue rather than a white glow. So better picture quality actually comes with the complement of less noticeable blooming.
>>737422876i sometimes laugh when my pc opens up games on my secondary monitor. IPS is so fucking shit
>>737422732When I can use an oled monitor for actual computer stuff like work or web browsing for minimum 8 hours a day without having to baby it to prevent burn in then ill buy an oled monitor
>>737423164more likely that a different tech will replace it, burn in will always be a thing for oleds
>>737411550I don't mind HDR itself, it's fantastic.I hate how it the screenshots I take with it either are super grey in a format I can use elsewhere or look great in an image format not a single thing supports.