>Overwhelmingly fixes the service problem by being the de facto store and ease of use>piracy is still rampantwhat did he mean by this?
you'll never stamp out piracy completely. plus, more and more of the third world is getting online so you have an infinite supply of poors flooding the internet
>>737414547>buy a game>it's full of drm>pirate a game>receive the same game with drm bypassedstill a service issue
>>737414547he's just a disingenuous idiot and people suck his dick because it fits the narrative they want. its not a service problem, its a free problem. people will go through inconvenience to get shit for free. no matter how good the service is, free is free. you can never beat that. people will cope and gaslight about it forever though
>>737414705When netflix was the big streaming service media piracy was down. When shit splintered and prices hikes along with moar ads etc. it has gone up.But TO BE FAIR the early years where also subsedized by venture capital to expand the business.
>>737414547He was referring to 1st worlders. Gabe didn't understand that 3rdies will steal everything regardless
>>737414754service can reduce it sure, but its so wildly overemphasized. its common sense and everybody knows it, but you cant say it anywhere but here, in relative anonymity
>>737414547The prices of games are still too high even for the first world, they really should be $35 for AAA and less for everything else
>>737414547>piracy is still rampantExcept games are the highest selling they have ever been, and the sales grow each year
>>737414547>another rothschild seethe threadkek
If Gabe never made Steam there would be no DRM ever game companies would just sell you boxes with games in them with no protection whatsoever. Fuck Gabe for inventing DRM
>everyone can afford to buy video games, even pirates>they just don't want to walk all the way to the store to buy themWasn't Gabe just projecting here?
>>737414547It's an oversimplification to get it through the heads of execs who watched one to many anti-piracy DVD pre-rolls and drank the kool-aid of a failing industry that had to continuously beg daddy government to prop up their monopoly.Piracy is free marketing from people who were never going to buy your game, if your game can't benefit from free marketing, then your game is shit, your company has already failed, you can't sell things competently or all of the above.>>737414705Free is not a selling point unless the price is outrageous or the convenience gap between piracy and purchase either does not really exist or is outright in favor of piracy.Most people in the target audience will buyfag.
>>737414547>piracy is still rampantmost people don't know how to block ads, let alone pirate a videogame. the majority of people doing it are turd worlders in india, brazil and russia who barely have enough money to buy their mandatory 6 gallons of alcohol a week, let alone a full priced AAA videogame
>>737414547Games too expensive
>>737414547>Piracy is a service problem claims president of Valve>Ships Half Life 2 with so much DRM up the ass that it is encrypted on the DVD and you have to log in to Steam to decrypt it
>>737414547Before $team became a thing I used to buy games more often.I could buy boxed copy of a PC game for less than equivalent of 10€ from a store in my country.Sure those were not the newest games but those well all great.New games from major publishers were around 30€, which would be 60€ after 26 years of inflation. After that I could either give them away or trade with someone.
>>737414547plenty of companies don't put their games on steam. how are you supposed to buy a nintendo game on steam? you can't, so you have to pirate it. gabe wins again
I'm finna be honest. Once streaming became widespread I stopped downloading movies and tv-series
>>737414547At least post some random graph and numbers with zero credibility to prove your point.
>Piracy is still rampantIt actually isn't, if you pay attention it's actually a very small community of fags with terminally shit taste and a superiority complex they get to shriek at people about how smart they are for eating shit for free.
>>737414547the goal was minimizing piracy retard not eliminating it.
>>737419908Well, let me put an asterisk on this and say it's Vidya piracy that's basically dead.Video/Music piracy is slowly picking back up because publishers for that are being retarded about it.
I stopped pirating once I got a job. I assume most people do this.
>>737414547Piracy has actively had trouble cracking games because there wasn't enough interest in piracy thanks to Steam.
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>>737414547It really is not that rampant. Less rampant than in the old days for sure. I used to pirate absolutely everything, even games I was not interested in. I didn't care for Panzer General for example, but I had it pirated and a friend installed it and said "it's bretty gud, also there's a fantasy version" and I ended up trying Fantasy General and absolutely loved it. But I digress. Nowawadays you can avoid a lot of trouble by just paying few dollars to steam. If a game costs like 5$ I can't give a shit of going through any trouble to make it 0$, I'll just get it off Steam. I've bought games for few dollars I have stashed away somewhere but can't be bothered to find em.
>>737414547You clearly weren't born or were a teen/adult during the early 2000... Everyfuckingone pirated everything back then because it was more convenient than going to the store.
>>737414547If buying ain't owning, then pirating ain't stealing either.
I don't think it's rampant at all.Im Brazilian and I work with a bunch of boomers.They dont know how to pirate stuff at all
>>737420816I work with a bunch of zoomers*
>>737414547Piracy is only a Problem if its done Rampantly by people in Developed Countries.
>>737414547I had a coworker tell me about qBittorrent and Mullvad, gave it a shot, I can't go back to streaming services after seeing what a 3-5gb .mkv episodes look like. Streaming services look so shitty and compressed in comparison.
>>737420189Lmao
>>737415713I dunno if you are serious or not.
>>737415713DRM and other anti-piracy schemes existed for PC games well before Steam really took off. Sometimes it was just a simple riddle or puzzle that had a solution in the manual that came with the game, while with something like EA games there was an activation limit on the installation key that came with the game.
>>737421104Also I can probably make some anons' blood boil by just mentioning it.Securom
>>737421104Even some games still resold today still use their old, broken DRM that bricks the game, needing you to dig up 10 year old solutions to make them playable.
>>737414547You weren't around/born in the early 2000s. If you think piracy is bad now, you should have seen it back then. PC gaming nearly fucking died, and steam unironically saved it.
>>737414547Some people will never pay money for something so transient as entertainment, you have to accept that.
>>737414547He fixed the distribution problem (mostly), the service is still sometimes inferior, especially when publishers decide to implement copy protection that make your game run like ass (that the pirate copy obviously doesn't have to deal with).
>>737421173Starforce
>>737414547>piracy is still rampantNo its not. Younger generations dont know how to pirate shit, are afraid of the possible consequences, prefer a legal copy so they can display "cheevos" and unironically have the "YOU ARE HURTING THE COMPANIES!!!" attitude about piracy.
>>737414547piracy is still rampant because slop games like Starfield are still $130 years after release.
>>737421316On the other hand it's better that way, since if mainstream kiddos start singing their praises for piracy, the piracy places might find themselves under fire. Better work in the background than suffer the fate that befell things like those Switch emulators.
>>737421095>>737421104Wow, the valveshills never end on this board huh? Everybody knows that EA, Ubisoft, et al would NEVER include DRM if Valve didn't convince them to. We could have had a gaming paradise but Gabe fucked it all up.
>>737421260>onot even 1% of /v/ remembers the "PC gaming is dead" spam
>>737421431I could go dig up my physical copy of Command & Conquer: Generals Zero Hour, which had DRM on it that didn't require Steam or anything (that afore-mentioned installation limit on the game key). It was just EA being EA.
>>737414705>people will go through inconvenience to get shit for free.And normalfags will not. If they have a choice between tinkering in an install folder or instantly installing a game with the swipe of a credit card, they're gonna take the latter every time. Not to mention piracy still has a stigma with normalfags who consider it immoral and assume they're going to install a trojan on the first attempt (likely).
>>737414547developers are still taking down demos, ripping out base content to sell dlc back, charging actual money for avatar changing, taking out legacy games to charge more in a pack, censoring to bank whims, adding in dei changes not even the japanese see the reasoning of despite facing asian discriminations, putting denuvo in their games, utilizing store exclusivity and charging insane amounts for digital only purchases. the steam store is merely a single dent in the anti purchase armor.
Why are steamies melting down? Feels like they have been on permanent seethe mode for some weeks now.
piracy isn't a problem as long as enough people buy something, which they do.The idea of "stamping out piracy" is fascism, unironically.
>>737421802No, it's just greed.For those faggots it's never enough.
>>737421838No, I would unironically say "fascism" is a perfectly fair descriptor in this situation. What else do you call a fixation on rules, and the idea that absolutely everyone has to follow the rules, to the point that you're willing to be a tyrant about it, and punish *everyone*, not just the criminals?
>>737414547You don't know what rampant means in this context.Every fucker had a stack of floppy disks filled with games they copied, that they got from someone else who copied it from their friend's dad.Most PC games in people's collections during the 80s and 90s were copies. Like the overwhelming majority. It was normal.
>>737421959classic
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>we believe that paid mods is the future
>>737421941You see the symptom as the cause.If it was just a fixation on rules they would follow their own rules, but that clearly not the case.Rules often make things simpler, it's either yes or no.We like simple things because that saves us energy and time. We are just lazy animals with the technology that evolves faster than our brains.Tyranny is often a product of offloading all the responsibility, and as a result power to decide.Without apathy and conformism it would not take the root so easily.
>>737414547Piracy is tinyThere are 8 billion people on the planet, and like 4 million of em actually know how to pirate.If you look at the actual download numbers, it's a niche hobbyThe crushing majority of "pirates" on the third world are people that buy dvds on the street.
>>737414547>the corpos only increased their profits over time>the only thing that changed is that their products have lower qualityWe need piracy back. Can we make Ubisoft fail now?
>>737414547is buying a steam account piracy?
>>737414547He didn't "overwhelmingly fix the service problem". He fixed some service problems, but the games itself (which are a service) fucking suck donkey cock.
>>737414705Nah convenience >>>> freeI don't have a job and I still have 800 games on steam because it's more convenient to buy stuff
>>737421959This shit hit me hard
>>737422293And he was rightNowadays all the good shit is hidden behind patreons, fanboxes or whateverNexusmods gets slop by third wordlers who haven't figured out patreon yetAll the good outfit mods are paid now
>>737422293What's wrong with that? I'm disappointed that steam backed down. All workshop mods should be paid. Hosting them on valve's servers is expensive as fuck, so its natural that we share their burden of the load financially
>>737423094Thank god we as consumers prevented volvo from cutting a fat cut off for themself from all of those.>inb4 NOOOO BIG BILLY GAYBEN DESERVES ALL THE TAX MONEY HALF LIFE 3 WILL BE REVEAL
>>737414547Is it, though? Sure people still pirate but do they do it that much?
>>737425338I use steam and occasionally pirate still, but I'm the type of guy that pirates and finishes a game and then buys it on sale because I want the devs/publishers to get some money out of it. I did it with the Robocop game, Suzerain, Enter the Gungeons, Disco Elysium, etc.
