I literally just started training to be a psyker last week and already got invited to meet the Emperor. cya virgins
>>737415338That would be equivalent to a cunny being sent to epstein island
>>737415487If he's useless, he's emprah food, if he's useful he becomes a sanctioned psyker.It could be worse, enslavers or chaos gods rapes his ass.
I tried Rogue Trader recently and for some reason I was surprised when I got to the ship crash. Seems the Imperium (or at least that system) just shoved them in ships to expedite them to Terra. On paper it's efficient, but why the absolute fuck would you want to be on a ship with hundreds of pissed off and terrified psykers? Especially when you're that much more susceptible to wrap terrors.
>>737415742The Black Ships have Sisters of Silence to, well, silence the warp around them, they're blanks that casually eat the Wrap around them and render most psykers null
>>737415742>why the absolute fuck would you want to be on a ship with hundreds of pissed off and terrified psykersabsolutely nobody wants to be on these things and the crews going completely insane from the black hole of despair being generated from the mass of prisoners is a regular hazard
>>737415615to what degree is a psyker powerful enough to feed to the fat e but useful enough to bother keeping around uneaten? whats the metric? the rubric?
>>737415338yeah whatever i got myself a wife
>>737416039I think it's the difference is like eating a small rotisserie chicken every meal or eating a whole turkey in a day. The most potent psykers get spared because they can be of use to the empire, the less talented/weaker psykers become sacrifices. If the Emperor only gorged himself on strong psykers, then you could probably whittle the number of daily sacrifices to something like 250 a day, but life is cheap in the empire, so that's just a waste of talent.
>>737415338You're in for a ride, but as raw as the deal is, you're getting a better one than the guys that don't get soulbound. Why do they not simply gather a bunch of Zeta class psykers and sacrifice them all in the confines of a gellar field and combine their souls into a new alpha+ like Big E?
>>737416039Iota, Theta and Eta is when people start exhibiting obvious psychic activity. You would need to be at minimum a Zeta to avoid being fed to the Emperor.
>>737416558Are zeta niggas really that plentiful to just gather enough to even manifest a piece of space jesus
>>737416057Where did this idea of muscular and chiselled/beefy tau girls come from? Isnt the consensus that tau are all shit at melee and need to specialise in ranged only, it's been a meme for over a decade
>>737416897Zetas are the ones that get trained into sanctioned psykers and deployed all over the place, they're pretty common enough that they have a reputation for exploding on the battlefield. Two grades up from that is Delta, and they're like one in a billion. Give it thirty years and you could harvest enough Zeta grades to populate a small city.I guess the real question though is what grade the funny shaman psykers were, they were apparently something else before they seppuku'd themselves to make E Money.
>>737416558That idea is retarded and asking for intervention of several groups. Eldrard and his Farseers tried to do that shit and got slapped by the Deathwatch.
>>737416930They're actually slightly physically stronger than humans, they're shit at melee because they don't have the mental discipline or the brutality that humans do.
>>737417163Do it in the Imperial palace, most secure place in the galaxy.
If emperor is good, why doesn't he stand up
Good news, you're not being sacrificed Bad news, you're a phone now. We're going to need your eyes
>>737417216It's not leg day yet
>>737417194There's buttload of Sisters of Silence in the palace and I doubt anyone will allow that shitshow since it'll change the status quo, especially the bananaboys.
>>737417168That’s retarded, should have just made them weaker.
>>737415338So they kept this guy on life support without knowing he could resurrect after death. Poor guy lol
>>737417242Obviously status quo breaking, but you'd think some well-meaning radical inquisitor out there would make the attempt to recreate an emperor-like psyker just to address the possibility.
Who would win? 1 emperor of mankind, or 10 trillion renamons?
>>737415338Nice. When you get to the imperial palace remember to post ttrpg related threads on /tg/, not /v/. Have a safe trip!
>>737417486He would breed them all, no matter how long it took
>>737415615>>737415910>>737415974What was Emps using the black ships for before he got Horus'd? They're mentioned in some books but I don't think its ever been expanded upon about what he's actually doing.
>>737417168I always figured it's because their leadership is """enlightened""" and thinks melee combat has no place on the modern battlefield and don't bother giving Fire Warriors even the most basic melee training. Unfortunately this is 40k where all guns literally cease functioning if an enemy is engaged in melee with you.
>>737417665Just because he's not eating them doesn't mean psykers weren't still incredibly dangerous when IN control of their powers. He probably had a shit ton trained and even more killed when he was alive.Current numbers might be a reflection of the decay of the imperium.
>>737417705They prefer to let the Kroot auxilliaries do the melee since they love that shit, Fire Warriors don't get much training for that reason. It's an extension of their caste specialisation philosophy.
>>737417452There was a cardinal who tried to do that, but thanks to his experiments one of the psykers got out, killed a bolter bitch that forced to involve an order of bolter bitches to the cardinal's planet tracking the down the psyker who wants revenge against the cardinal and ending badly for psykers and the cardinal.I forgot the title of the novel though. It's one of Sororitas novel/anthologies.
>>737417665the psykers aren't for him, its for the golden throne to function
>>737417665They powered the astronomican. He literally had a great big psyker torture chamber inside mount everest for it, presumably that's still going on somewhere below the imperial palace.
>>737417705It's a balance thing. In lore fire warriors are just a bit shorter than humans but practice martial skill and majority of conscripted humans are a half starved hive worlder with next to no training.Still beat fire warriors with a bayonet when most of them have a sword.Why?Game balance into lore. Who cares?
>>737417341Aliens are just built different bro, kinda like apes. A chimp is physically stronger than a human, but physically incapable of throwing a proper punch. Muzzle a chimp and put it's hands in boxing gloves so it can't latch on, and I'd imagine even a regular untrained guy could probably knock it out with a couple dozzen well aimed punches in a boxing match. The dumb chimp would be completely helpless because it can't fight like it knows how.
Jesus christ, look at those stats. I haven't seen an accessory this broken since SOTN.
whats bigger cancer: waifufags or text to speech fags
>>737417961in lore it has a decent chance at making you immortal, balanced by the fact it also has a very good chance at making you a nigh unkillable man eating monster
>>737418035It's no chance, the user will turn into a man eating monster once the halo device is used. I'm more surprised Fabius Bile hasn't got one of those to use for his experiments.
>>737418035>a chanceNo it actually does both. Once that thing bonds to a person they are basically immortal, but they WILL turn into a monster eventually.
>>737418136some of them don't have the monster side effect. thats why people risk using them
>>737418172Like chaos aligned monster?? Or some entirely separate not warp related abomination?
>>737417168>mental disciplineWhat kind of mental discipline do we have for melee?
>>737417839>>737417840Huh? So he was feeding them to the throne he wasn't using? To somehow power the astronomicon?
>>737418241It's not warp shenanigans, it's just tech from a long gone xenos race.
>>737418015Neither are anywhere near as bad as anyone who got into 40k by 8th ed.Like even diehard fans used to seethe with contempt at GWs poor decisions but now there's nothing but bad updates for years yet the fandom has this wild feel good fervor.Just go into /tg/ archives and watch the weird change your self from fans and disgruntled fans actually discussing things both good and bad to just brand zelots lore checking each other as if wikis don't exist
>>737417168>They're actually slightly physically stronger than humansRetard. Even your typical bitchmade anon here could solo Taukek in melee.
>>737418015What if you are a 2nd ed grognard but still enjoy TTS because it's actually funny and pulls most of its lore from older canon?
>>737418136>>737418172wrong, it has a small but decent chance of giving you immortality with no strings attached, that's why people take the gamble
>>737418268The astronomican doesn't run off the throne, it's just a psychic amplifier (pain engine) and life support system. You could torture huge sums of psykers to death every day in one spot and still have the astronomican work, it's just more efficient to feed psykers to the emperor and have him personally generate it along with keeping the webway shut.
>>737417934>chimp is physically stronger than a humanKind of. Pound for pound theyre stronger, but theyre also like 110lbs max in nature.
>>737418371To be fair I don't think anyone hates the first couple of eps of TTS. It's when it starts to be more alternative canon over "hey what if the emperor knew what's going on lol" that it starts to lose it's lusterThe real horror is the primarchs coming back is a joke in that series and reality now
>>737418457I was drifting away from GW as a whole during the whole HH thing cuz its just all so gay, and then they brought Guilliman back and I just checked the fuck out. To me TTS is the most stable and sane version of 40k around because it at least knows taking this shit serious is not the point
So if Eldrard calls a black human money do they get cancelled?
>>737418264The mental discipline to not fumble around with your weapon and panic. Tau units lose morale in melee faster than equivalent Human units, that's why they have the Kroot do it and stick to shooting. The Tau are a case study of overspecialisation, they're bred into castes and they specialise into specific roles on top of that.
>psykerWhat a stupid name
>>737418696Let's hear your idea for a name
Remember! Everything that happened is part of the emp's plan! Also, he is just a perpetual with decent mind powers!
>>737415615nigger if you're not psychic chaff you're 99% likely to become an astropath, aka a glorified mailbox. you will be hooked to a choir of other poor bastards and forced to gaze at the empyrean trying to receive and decrypt messages sent by other choirs, until you either go insane and are quickly executed or simply crumble to dust. it's like working in a call center, 24/7, 365.
>>737418696Worlds better than drew carry for the evil space elves
>>737418939Only if your psyker powers trend towards telepathy (the most common), the best deal you can get is to be cursed with divination psyker powers, because then they just make you read imperial tarot.
>>737418673Man, the Tau are so gay and boring, why are they shilled so much?
>>737419063WHAT DO THE FUNNY SYMBOLS MEAN!? WHAT DO THEY MEAN!?
>>737419112
>>737419101Mecha is pretty much all they have going for them
>>737419101>why are they shilled so muchThey're not? You only see pornfaggots spamming shit here and on /tg/. And guess what, they're not real fans.
>>737416039they need to be able to do shit, be sane enough to actually control it well enough to not be an instant daemon onahole, and not to powerful to risk loosing control over
>>737418939>>737419063Sanctioned psyker > battle psyker > astropath > battle psyker (forma de fodder) > sacrifice.Most sanctioned psykers are just magic dudes who got to see the emperor for free and have a guaranteed job as some Noble's pet. Battle psykers get the joy of fighting until they die and astropaths are sanctioned psykers but for planetary governors or ship captains but their job is to be an answering machine in all cases.
>>737419101Tau would be cooler if their coalition of alien races thing came up more. A bunch of different xenos designs for each unit and battle mechs would rockUnfortunately GW are cheap bastards so we got some birds and one unit of bugs and 3 different flavors of tau in nearly identical combat armor.
>>737419210>You only see pornfaggots spamming shit here and on /tg/.Ah, I see.
>>737419257>who got to see the emperor for freeThis usually sears their eyeballs out of their sockets or causes some other crippling deformity, so it's pretty raw, but not as raw as getting plugged into a pain engine and having your soul siphoned away to power the astronomican, which is apparently a slow, agonising death beyond any real description.
>>737419101GW got spooked by gundam and anime in the 90s and tried to cater to that audience like the out of touch boomers they are, while diluting the atmosphere and fucking up the lore in the process. everyone was doing that, to be fair. suddenly, every mascot for every brand wore sneakers, unbuttoned shirts and t-shirt underneath, reversed ball cap and sunglasses while skateboarding.>see kids? we're cool and fresh and hip and whatever, buy our product!
>>737419413I'd take those days over now. 9/11 hadn't happened yet.
>>737419374>>73741941340K should have stopped with>Space Marines>Imperial Guard>Eldar>Orks>Chaos>Tyranids
>>737419101At least tau have something of an identity as opposed to the leagues of vottan.It's crazy they somehow managed to make space dwarves lame and gay
>>737416057she seems to be at a dangerously low bodyfat%, very unhealthy, needs more calories
>>737419632>space dwarvesThe Squats are back after 35 years of amnesy?
>>737416057>"This is my wife">Look inside>Your wife is strongly implied to suck off not only other humans, but a vast number of other xenosAre you so brainrotten that you can't even have a pure, loyal, loving partner within the bounds of your imagination?
>>737420128Leagues of Votan. They're gay as fuck. I haven't really looked into it but I heard they're like age of sigmar dwarves, so mercenaries who like to trade
>>737418909Better than>chaos has already won, everything was chaos all along
>>737416930Anon, the people you're questioning are coomers.They don't care about anything beyond its utility as a masturbation aid.
>>737420306Yes, taufags are insane.
>>737420128>>737420315They have interesting lore in that they're vatt clones with an ancestry fetish and are uploading themselves on death to "be with their ancestors" that the machines are breaking down from being flooded with copies of what is 99% the same person. It's a fun little idea which of course has zero impact on the tabletop side and there's no fun stories with them yet since they're new.Also they released broken as fuck which had the model line do gangbusters only to be patched into useless and so no one buys them anymore
>>737420449Hmm ging it the old gatcha treatment huh? Everything released super op so people snap it up
>>737416057I'm still not sure I understand how the Tau became the faction favoured by the coomers.
>>737420521If you haven't played tabletop in a while don't. It's such an obvious skinner box. Each update is just making the low selling models OP and then nerfing them with an errata after the first tournament.Turns out going full digital codexes was actually the worst thing that could happen for the games balance but boy does it print money
>>737415338>emporer is a perpetual>has to be put on some weird life support machine and eat 10,000 psykers per dayi dont get it, why dont they just let him regenerate like vulkan?
>>737420676he's sitting on top of Magnus' fuckup.If he gets up it opens up and warp swallows Terra
>>737420630They were memed as the weeb faction in spite of being Chinese and the space elven ninjas with katanas and guns that shoot shurikens and mechs being there forever.So the website looked at them and started drawing coomer shit. Occasionally broken up by SoB cooking or the rare dark Eldar CoomingFor some reason no one cares about howling banshees ever since the lore introduced male ones. Can't imagine why!
>>737420676Horus hit him really, REALLY hard
>>737420745Yeah but the Custodes fought that shit off the first time, surely they could hold it off until he gets back to full power so he can come up with a better fucking idea other than being a dead corpse on a toilet.
>>737420821Or even deploy a bunch of chapters to stave it off until he he's healed.Is it even possible to patch the hole?
>>737420636Eh I actually just bought my first box, dark angels combat patrol, just looking to get into it as a hobbyist, just paint them up and get a display case etc. I got space marines fiorst because they seem the easist to paint but some of the new IG models look amazing. Probably want a box of sisters of battle when I get good enough.
>>737420904There's cheaper models to paint but you do you. I despise GW but their model line is nice looking at least. Can't write rules for shit and their lore is getting very retarded very quickly but hey, models and paints are pretty good if overpriced
>>737420821Its not like anyone has an idea how long hed take to return, it could be months, could be a fucking millennium, custodes arent holding shit for that long, even if they could, dont they only care about the emperor? theyd probably fuck off to leave terra to its fate after any number of custodes die
>>737419531tyranids were already a stretch. the fa/tg/uys at nottingham saw alien and figured they could make a cheap copyright free knockoff and then put a giant NO STEAL label on it as they usually do. i still find tyranids goofy as fuck and have a very low opinion on the people playing them.
>>737421147Waht would you recommend? I got the combat patrol for 200 dollarydoos on ebay inculding postage.
Why don't they just let the emperor die?Wasn't it stated he would be reborn or something in a more powerful state?
>>737420676The throne is the opposite of a life support machine, the thing actually drains his healthAs for why they don't remove him, the astronomican "blinking" off for a couple of minutes caused unimaginable losses to ships in transit, perpetuals usually require hours if not days to regenerateAlso also, the emps being alive is the only thing keeping the miniature sun that blocks the Eternity Gate from spewing deamons nonstop into Terra>>737420821they barely could managed a fighting retreat, it doesn't matter how good you are when the enemy is literally endless and come as large as a knight
>>737420630People got bored of the Eldar.
>>737421407Everybody is bored of the Eldar, Even GW
>>737421273Oh there's dozens of model kits by millions of manufacturers. After doing 40k for a while I realized I could just paint snap gundams and it went from $50 tanks to $20 Gundam kits. Now I wish 40k tanks cost $50 again.But seriously just go online, look at other table top games and just get models you want. Most will be cheaper and about the same quality. Blkout and infinity have some cool units. I got an Rtype model a bit ago that came with paint that was really cool.Also look at kickstarter weirdly enough. It's become the place for small number model runs.More over look into 3D printing because the amount of free models available to download print and then paint are dizzying and it pays for itself in no time.Unfortunately it got me into blender to modify models so that's a new hyperfixation I didn't need but hey.
>>737421585>Even GWConsidering GW's latest stuff, maybe that's the best place for Eldar to be.
>>737421407They're inherently boring outside of their sadistic fetamine addicted brethren.
>>737421602Oh that's what you meant. Yeah its tricky because the GW ones are really good in the modern day and you can get them cheap on ebay. Its probably a good place to start at least and then maybe branch out later. Trench crusade is certainly getting a lot of hype.
>>737420630They're uninspired poseur xenofuckers.If you're going to go so far off-model and off-lore you could 'reimagine' the greenskins as Amazonian Ork Grlz. Shrugging off las-volleys, as they storm imperial guard trenches. Pinning guardsmen to the ground and riding their dicks until they pass out from exhaustion. Tying the naked, twitching bodies of vanquished foes to their bodies like trophies as they move onto looking for their next FUK.Twist the Tyranids hunger into something more carnal. Now they're obsessed with integrating genetic material from powerful species. Biosculpting their infiltrators into avatars of desire perfectly calibrated to their targets tastes. Globally deploying tailored aphrodisiac viruses across to cause planet-wide orgies. Entire planets converted into seedbed nursuries for new hivefleets.Turn the Necrons into silver sexpots that use their hypertech and reality bending c'tan shards to enslave and rule as gods over the filthy organics. Have them outwardly act cold and arrogant, but internally yearn for the warm flush of life - leading them to become increasingly obsessed and infatuated with their human captives. Inflicting all manner of perverse procedures upon them to experience the sensation vicariously while maintaining the pretext of 'experimentation'. Alternatively, set up a story where a soulless necron warrior gradually gains more personhood by interacting with a human prisoner whose cell she's guarding, culminating in her falling madly in love.Dark Eldar except they survive off pleasure instead of pain. Planets by raided by punky babes who shoot you with a un that makes in orgasm 10 times at once, strip you down, then stuff you inside an extremely tight BDSM Sack filled with other naked, deliriously horny victims. Sexual gladiator pits. People being modified into living sextoys. People having their sensitivity amplified by 1000% and then teased until their minds melt out of their ears.Chaos, except horny.
>>737421602>40k>Basic box of Marines>10 models, 2 units>160p total>Every model has the same loadout with no wargear options except melee weapons for the Sergeant (this is actually a downgrade lmao)>$65Meanwhile>Starcraft>Basic box of Marines>9 models, unit size is 6 or 9>Point cost starts at 160 and 210 respectively, box includes upgrades that can increase points to 270 and 350 respectively>Box comes with a slew of wargear to represent the upgrades, as well as a clear plastic 'effects' sprue for muzzle flashes>$45It's astounding how ridiculous 40k's prices are compared to other games.
>>737421995Akshually necron warriors are just robotos. There's nothing there, just an empty husk following basic routines.
>>737420821>Yeah but the Custodes fought that shit off the first timeThe Custodes, and the Sisters of Silence, and the best of the Admech barely managed it, they took massive losses in the process, and the only reason that fight ended at all was because Big E put a star in place. All four chaos gods were sending their biggest and baddest guys right in that breach, and they're still waiting outside of it to try again.A harlequin once set foot on Terra and got the immediate impression that E Money and the four Big Bads were lock in stalemate in that one spot so long they were "ossified".
>>737421405>The throne is the opposite of a life support machine, the thing actually drains his healthIt was, he's started healing and moving around lately. Whether that's because his powers are peaking or the throne's failing is unclear.
>>737415615Doesn't Emps put the souls of all the Psykers he noms into an afterlife entirely sustained by his will?
>>737422141The only reason they can is because they have huge prestige, but it's falling off now because most prospective new players can't break the hobby's starting costs.
>>737422141Who cares about Starcraft?
>>737422249If you can breach a webway hole the way magnus did, surely there's a way to fix it as well right?Wouldn't an alternative be to abandon Terra and just let it be consumed? Is it really that important outside of the bureaucracy being present there? Are there resources and shit being mined?
>>737417665Probably just shooting them once they've been evaluated as not worth training instead of putting them in the snack bowl.
>>737422356Not sure they get an afterlife, but he does have a legion of the dead made of literally every human who ever died in his name led by a guy that might be Ferrus Manus.
>>737420676He wasn't just mortally wounded by Horus, his claw was infused with the power of the 4 and would have killed him permanently without the ThroneThe Throne (webway) was also constantly shitting out daemons thanks to Magnus inadvertently breaking into it, hence why Big E sat there throughout the siege of Terra and why Malcador sacrificed himself to buy Big E one final timeIf Magnus didn't break Big E's webway, the siege would have been over in a few days since he would personally lead Terra's defenders along with the full might of the Custodes; instead Magnus' fatal mistake sent 95% of the Custodes to their deaths fighting a bajillion daemons inside Big E's webway where most of them would die
>>737422151Yes. I know.But within the context of coomer material, it doesn't matter.It just needs to resemble the source material and seem somewhat plausible.Imbuing a sexy, submissive personality into a soulless automata through the sheer strength of your godly animal magnetism is absolutely a concept that coomers would eat up. Vaguely handwave the specifics away as some warp fuckery, something like the human soul imprinting on the object and resonating with the meager programming within. A coomer can suspend a lot of disbelief, all you need to do is make up some bullshit that makes sense if you don't really think about it.
>>737421256But thanks to the nids we got Space Hulk, which I really enjoy.
>>737418136I think whatever alien tech/magic is extremely opposed to chaos corruption, halo devices do nothing to chaos tainted people, otherwise I'd love to see Lucius have one attached and see what happens.
>>737418375Insane vampiric space cockroach hands typed this post.
>>737422416It could be fixed, but not while Big E's keeping it shut with a literal actual star, which is the only thing keeping an endless horde of daemons out. If Terra were abandoned, the Eternity Gate is assumed to explode into a new Eye of Terror, they'd have to blow it up with the talisman of seven hammers (which they can't Vulkan has to be there to activate that) along with the Emperor and everyone on the planet (too many to evacuate). It's pretty critical because, yes, all the bureaucracy is there, along with everything else of critical importance. There are basically no resources left, but they still mine gemstones and shit from the mantle apparently.Horus Heresy made it pretty clear, sometimes the only victory possible is to keep your enemy from winning.
>>737419374While I like the Kroot, they were a mistake to make the primary T'au Auxilary. You have a dozen auxilia species but the most well known and popular one is the aliens who can radically change their bodies to fit numerous battlefield roles, thus making most other auxilua redundant outside if aesthetics.
>>737419531Add Necrons
>>737421327There's too many variables and unknowns if Emperor dies. Best case scenario he becomes the literal God Emperor that average joe worships. Worst case scenario a new Eye of Terror opens with Terra at it center, his webway collapse and chaos floods a good chunk of the galaxy for the nth time.
>>737422712No.
>>737422564Halo devices don't make you completely indestructible, they just prevent natural death and most forms of damage, if you stuck one in Lucius and fired him into a star, and then felt smug about it, you'd still turn into Lucius.
>>737422384Well it's looking way more interesting than 11th Edition right now.
>>737422748No the idea is you stick one in Lucius, jump into a star and watch the alien consciousness and chaos try and overwrite each other forever.
>>737418287Who would win? Peak condition Tau from Fire Caste OR some cancer riddled Necrontyr?
>>737422770As much as I hate Starcraft and its unoriginality, Tyranids will never beat a Hydralisk's design
>>737422837>Give Lucius a Halo DeviceThat's gotta be pretty high up there on the list of worst plans conceivable by man.
>>737423109Yes, but funny.
>>737423109Lucius is a fucking jobber. It's just Slaanesh reviving him for shit and giggles knowing he'll never git gud against the person he jobbed against.
>>737422857In a straight fistfight, probably the tau, but one is the most gullible race in the setting and the other is reigning backstabbing champion.
>>737423085The Tyranid design is kinda crippled by it's execution of it's bioguns. While more well done among it's newer artillery creatures, to this day I find Gaunts with their SMGs and Warriors to look odd. Also not crazy about the hooves bit that's sort of a legacy thing at this point.
>>737423191Yeah the chaos mortal champions start looking a bit shit when you realise they're just getting free do-overs whenever they lose.
>>737423191So let's give him a Halo device?
>>737423301I feel like the experience of Chaos Warriors who spend most of their time in the warp should ve presenter more like a fever dream, particularly those heavily aligned to a specific God. Kharn or Lucius shouldn't really have a clue what's going on day to day. Abbadon arguably shouldn't be cognizant about which Black Crusade he's on, just stuck in a looping dream of uniting warbands and invading the Imperium.But then I don't really like that Abaddon exists as the character he is as opposed to the Galaxies most recent Warmaster of Chaos
>>737423438He'll job even harder. That's two layers of job bait to nameless shitters.
>>737423628That sounds pretty cool actually, I think there was at least one short story about that, chaos dude was just in constant flashback mode, he'd kill a loyalist and mentally be in the siege of terra, then he'd see his arm was a tentacle and that would fast forward him to when that mutation first happened, then he'd end up thinking it's the crusade and talking to some random cultist they mutated and shoved in power armour as if he was a long dead brother from that era.
is malal or malice canon?
>>737423951No, stop asking!
>>737417934pretty sure Tau were stated to be weaker
>>737423951Not yet.
>>737417934Tau are physically weaker than Humans.The strength power scale goes;Orks > Eldar > Humans > TauWith Tyranids being at or above Orks depending on some variables.
>>737424512depends on the nid of course
>>737422416Presumably doing so would require Emps to project, at bare minimum, a tzeentch juiced Magnus’ worth of power and concentration to the break to get it done. This would be a colossal task considering A: We have no idea how long the process would take to fix the problem, B: there’s one short fuckton of daemons just waiting for the smallest lapse in his concentration to slip through and murderfuck earth, C: it could very well kill him through psychic strain, and D: a conscious move of that magnitude on his part might convince the gods to either send their primarchs or, worse, try to make a move personally in response to avoid losing the stalemate. It’s unlikely the four would make a personal move depending on whether or not the nature of the webway cucks them, but a gaggle of daemon primarchs in conjunction with hoards of daemons could well and truly be a problem, especially if Magnus enters the game. Weedy, back broken nerd or not, he’s still the second most powerful human psyker alive and is practically pulsating with tzeentch juice on top of that.
>>737422416The beings that made the webway have been dead for over 65 million years, the Eldar, the only beings in the universe to be even remotely close to understand the thing, have no fucking clue how that shit works and can at best lock down pathways when daemons or whatever monstrosities that inhabit it start crawling out of control but they sure as hell can't do that when its tunnels are full of themThe Emperor was working on trying to figure that shit out but Magnus koolaid maning into it put a stop to it
>>737424775>>737424936I see, thanks lore anons. Truly is grim dark.
>>737416897The Great Rift splitting the galaxy has also contributed to more humans awakening psyker powers and warp powers being able to be used more easily, with associated risks like daemonic possession increasing too.
>>737424936>the only beings in the universe to be even remotely close to understand the thing,The Emperor DID figure it out. He was literally a few days away from starting the full colonization and settling of the Webway, intending to clear out the Eldar stragglers and fix the place up aince those pointy-eared retards weren't going to do it.
The webway isnt half as bad as the warp right?
>>737425259It was pretty nice until the Eldar fucked it up royally. With some effort and elbow grease (neither of which seem to be things the Eldar have) it can be fixed up.
>>737425401The warp was too a nice place, I mean "place"
>>737425437Tje only reason the Webway is bad right now is because there are paths in it that now lead directly to the Warp in the wake of the Eldar fucking up. Once tbksr get fixed it's basically perfect.
>>737425401Eldar can't fix the webway because it's a psychic construct through the Immaterium. It requires immense psyker power to build and the Eldar can't access their old psyker abilities because Slaanesh would eat them if they did. Emperor could do it because he's the Anathema
>>737425921>Eldar can't fix it because [they're weak and pathetic]Yeah that's basically the jist of it.
>>737423216trvke
>>737422249Big E didn't put a star there, he manifested himself as one burning the daemons or some shit. He closed it by shutting off the generators and starved the portal of power turning it into a solid stone wall.
>>737417223>Fuck yo fatha>Fuck (you) nigga! You're a phone!
>>737419210how do real fans drawfag the tau?
>>737425921the only thing your corpse emperor can do is decompose
>>737426541They don't. Tau and Eldar don't have fans who like them for their lore or actual designs, they have fans who like them for porn or ganeplay reasons.
>>737416057I bet she swells up and explodes (non-lethally) due to her space bovine physiology
>>737426541Battlesuits only
>>737426632he made a bunch of harleys shit their pants amongst other things, he definitely seems to be doing way more than the entire eldar faction
>>737426721Fucking kill yourself bombfag
>>737426681Let's not use "how fans draw them" as any sort of barometer
>>737426681>Opinions of the terminally online
>Breaks into your palace>Claims to come in peace with a message for the emporer>Kills dozens of custodes>Only one survives>Gets imprisoned and interrogated>Delivers the message "CHAOS IS THE REAL ENEMY"How did this shit get approved?
>>737427145>>Kills dozens of custodesThose were Lucifer Blacks, not actual Custodes.When the actual Custodes showed up they butchered the clowns.
>>737427145>Kills dozens of custodesThis part didn't happen
>>737427253No they killed both and it was extremely stupid. They encountered the lucifer blacks in the outer palace. Specificially Lhaerial and Bho slaughtered dozens of custodes just by themselves.It's absolutely retarded. A harlequin probably could go 1v1 to a custode but not a fucking squad.
>>737427495>A harlequin probably could go 1v1 to a custodeLol no, a Custodes would beat an entire squad of clowns without breaking a sweat.
>>737427145Cegorach is just having a laugh
>>737427528Custodes and Harlequins are equal in the lore. Basically racial counterparts of each other.
>>737427528Well canon says custodes got their asses handed to them so not sure what else to tell you.
>>737427495No they didn't, and no they can't. They fought, but none of the custodians were killed you dumb eldarboo. The most that happened was that the harlequin whose pov we were following had comments that custodes were graceful, but still pushed through the air rather than cut like the eldar.
How can we fix Tau? They're such a nothingburger faction.
>>737427578>>737427610Again, the Harlequins didn't fight the Custodes initially. When the Custodes arrived they absolutely massacred the clowns down to a single woman who got stunned and pissed herself looking at the Emperor's psychic shadow.
>>737427619>NOOOO IT DIDNT HAPPEN BECAUSE I DONT WANT TO BELEIVElook retard i think it's stupid too but it literally happened in a book
>>737427619>eldarboolol
how do i drawfag the necrons?
>completely ddifferent recounts of the same bookStop looking at wikis you retards just read the book
>>737427729No, sadly he is correct.>The Adeptus Custodes waited for them, opening fire as they ran down the vast processional way. Hard projectiles of metal whined past them, shot from the tips of long-hafted weapons as heavy as Lhaerial herself. Primitive, as all the technology of the humans was, but deadly. Just one round, were it to hit, would obliterate her slender body.>They did not hit. Lhaerial wove around the bolts. Bho fired from behind, his screamer cannon punching the genetically enhanced warriors from their feet. They were too mighty to be felled by the shot itself, instead dying painfully as the gene-toxins in the shrieker rounds rewrote their life code explosively.>‘Stop, stop!’ she called out in their ugly language. ‘My name is Lhaerial Rey,’ she continued, ‘Shadowseer of the Ceaseless Song. I come here at command of Eldrad Ulthran to deliver a message of great import to the Emperor of Mankind!’ Only murder dwelled in their hearts. A giant moved to intercept her, his great halberd whirling in buzzing arcs around his head. This one moved with a grace and speed she did not associate with the humans. She fought ferociously with him, trading parries and ripostes like for like, the sheer strength of the human shocking her. She saluted him before she took his head from his shoulders. ‘Friendship! Friendship!’ she cried out, Gothic’s coarseness an affront to her tongue.>More of them came at her, shouting angrily. That she was swinging her sword at them probably belied her words, she thought ironically, but she refused to die for their idiocy. She called out as she killed, over and over again. ‘My name is Lhaerial Rey, Shadowseer of the Ceaseless Song. I come here at command of Eldrad Ulthran to deliver a message of great import to the Emperor of Mankind. Friendship! Friendship! Cease your fighting!’ Bho shot down the last of them.There's more, but too much for one post.
why do harlys match custodes and dark eldar make chaos marines shit their pants yet neither of these space elves get that much figs or content? what's the point?
>>737428021Thanks anon I was gonna search through Throneworlds to find some excerpts.Maybe now these fags will just accept the horrible writing GW did.
>>737428101Yeah, Guy Haley is uhhhh... You know.
>people actually reading the books and talking about the booksDid anything cool lore-wise happen in those Tau or Ork books last year? Anything cool so far this year?
>>737415338Damn man.Going up several levels in just a week, that's pretty impressive. You do deserve the invite.
>>737428208Lol no, the only books that matter now are Marine books.
>>737428208Still working my way through them, do you have the slightest idea how many books there are? I have been at this for twenty years. TWENTY GOD DAMNED YEARS!
>>737428021i remember reading this back when the books came out; custodes jobbing didn't perturb me but what did are the eldars retardedly walking right into the throne activating every fucking thing including the mini titan pair just to say whatever the fuck they said kekone memorable scene before that though is one of the eldar feeling the emperors aura the instant she touched the ground, which was a pretty cool moment
>>737428208Doubt.
>>737428232Yvraine and Eldrad are Gamma tier at absolute highest, if we're being lenient.
>>737428208No
>>737428232How the fuck is Eldrad now Alpha+ and why is Njal a fucking A? lol
>>737428335*not
>>737428371Eldar a piss weak psykers next to Humans, anon.
>>737428260Too many. It's kind of hard to sometimes look and see what is even releasing and when. I read a lot of scifi/fant so I'm always reading other stuff regardless.>>737428236>>737428286>>737428310Lol okay that's fair. Man what's with that shitty /tg/ general which behaves like every other general on the goddamn website and accuses you of not interacting with the source material if they don't? i.e. "I don't read any books so you don't either!"-logic
>>737428279They were there on Eldrad's orders to tell the emperor "Hey, don't lose to the Orks okay? Chaos is still out there" It was really fucking dumb, but there was an implication that Eldrad sent them on purpose to get killed because the Custodes did end up killing the clowns to the last surviving member. In all fairness, these were fresh Custodes, made after the Horus Heresy, none of the remaining companions with actual experience were involved with this.And yep, the whole troupe shit themselves when sensing E Money.>Crushing the sensation of the dead of the Earth was the titanic presence of the Corpse Emperor.>Such power made Lhaerial’s mind reel, and for a moment her contempt for the creatures of Terra wavered. The mind of the Emperor was a mountain in the surging madness of the Othersea, blinding in its brilliance. The Great Powers circled this place like razorshark waiting out the death throes of a void-whale. That terrible presence held them back, and all His little servants were ignorant of it! Unease gripped her, that she would be noticed by the Dark Gods or their defier, and the fragile flame of her being snuffed out.>The feeling passed. The regard of the things of the Other sea was ossified, so long had they fixed their gaze on the Earth. The Emperor did not shift His regard. His attention was elsewhere, upon the blinding pyre of souls, navigation beacon of the mon-keigh. She had no indication she was seen. There was little relief in that. She had laughed in the face of She Who Thirsts, but the Corpse Emperor filled her with a sense of dread.>Few among the eldar could stand to be in such a place. To the left and right, she saw her fellows go through the same stumble and recovery, their sensitive minds disturbed. When the dance resumed, their steps were heavier than before.
Funny how the greenskins have the better deal all things consideredThey don't think why an ork can't do cause they forgot how they did it the first time
>>737427528Custodes are an entire squad of "Potential Men".
>>737428021>She saluted him before she took his head from his shoulders. ‘Friendship! Friendship!’ she cried outPretty much summarizes Craftworld/Harlequin Eldar
>waiting for Boltgun 2 while engaging in zero Warhammer products (but occasionally masturbating to r34 material of battle sisters & female imperial guards being corrupted by chaos forces)
>>737428903For me it's LewdAnon's Eldar.
>>737427729No, Anon. Custodes got their ass kicked. Keep in mind they DO get “new recruits” though so it’s a good chance the Harlequins despite normally being evenly matched were newbies. What I’m saying is they were likely Femstodes
>>737428903>Shartgun
>>737428903the first one was shit, level design and enemy ai/variety was trash as a game
>>737428692>The orks are the pinnacle of creation. For them, the great struggle is won. They have evolved a society which know no stress or angst. Who are we to judge them? We eldar who have failed, or the humans, on the road to ruin? We see a culture that is strong and despise it as crude.The orks are the pinnacle of creation. For them, the great struggle is won. They have evolved a society which know no stress or angst. Who are we to judge them? We eldar who have failed, or the humans, on the road to ruin? We see a culture that is strong and despise it as crude.From Kultur vs Culture.Tracks that a bioweapon made to thrive on endless war would be the happiest in a setting of endless war.
>>737428942*fighting newbies
>>737419101Big guns.
>>737428232>Enture Tau race>Sigma. Retarded list
>>737428942And these are palace guards shortly after the horus heresy, they aren't wearing their armor.
>>737429032
>>737428460Eldar are "weak" because they handicap themselves with limiters so Slaanesh doesn't eat them. Unshackled Eldrad does all the goofy Alpha+ shenanigans like stopping time.
>>737415338I saw this thread in the catalog and that image gave me a flashback to this sovlful music from jeremy soulehttps://youtu.be/H-6dKVNt1C4
>>737429145>Unshackled Eldrad does all the goofy Alpha+ shenanigans like stopping time.Never once been proven, and like all Farseers his visions always end up being wrong.
>>737428947>Doltgun
>>737429191Wrong again fuckboi. He predicted the Horus Heresy and the Tyranid invasion before they even reached the milky way.
Why Eldar didn't wipe Necron out before the fall?
>>737429191The man predicted 40k after killing a bunch of human perpetuals that were clouding his sight, which ironically may have contributed to it happening
>>737429413Too busy doing drugs, raping each other, and being overall degens much like many people on the internet.
>>737416930T'au literally engage in government controlled selective breeding, and are required or at least highly encouraged to keep fit and healthy for the sake of the Greater Good.I would be surprised if there was larger part of the T'au that WEREN'T in good shape.
>>737429413Cost of directly assaulting all of the Necron strongholds that contained all their super weapons + Ctan vs just letting the defeated race who was already going into hiding en masse do that while the Eldar kept an eye on them.
>>737428968Far from perfect but I still enjoyed it.
>>737428021>Primitive, as all the technology of the humans was
>>737429413Because they're stupid.Literally 90% of the issues in 40k can be traced back to "The Eldar are stupid fucks who let this happen"
>>737429413The galaxy had basically been destroyed, everyone who was left was fucked up except the krorks. The Necrons fucked off to their hidden stasis tombs and the Eldar were too busy managing the Krorks to deal with them. Presumably by the time they'd finished culling the Krorks so much they became Orks, the Eldar stopped considering the Necrons a threat since they'd seemingly fucked off. Eldar can't see tens of millions of years into the future, so it was basically like the Necrons just dropped off the map.
>>737428518>Custodes, made after the Horus Heresywat
>>737429413the necron had weapons and ctan then they had less weapons numbers and ctan so it was supposed to be possible to get rid of them but eldar are well....dumb as fuck
>>737429569To be fair to this, ever since we figured out how to throw rocks, our military technology has just come up with more and more elaborate means of throwing rocks. Like nearly all power generation being about boiling water to turn a wheel. If it works, it works.
>>737428303Well Eldrad is quite competent as a battle-psyker, but his true strength lies in precognition and foreknowledge of events; in this aspect Eldrad is considered one of the most powerful of the current Eldar. Certainly not Gamma, but in the Alpha-Beta tier imo.As for Yvraine, her connection with Ynnead - plus her ridiculous psykic feats - easily place her on Alpha+ tier (at least).>>737428335I'd say Njal is nigh as psykicly strong as Tigurius.>>737429007The Tau as a whole have weaker souls than the average human, but are not as weak as to be considered Blanks. So yeah, it fits.
>>737429413Nobody actually knows.
>>737429569well yeah even dark age tech is nothing compared to ancient eldar tech and the like
>>737428518They try to hard to glaze him desu, it's neat to have the eldar get dazzled and humbled but they ruin it by going on about how few eldar could even survive being near him.
>>737429685Most of them were killed in the War for the Webway when Magnus did an oopsie, and they do replenish their numbers. Custodes creation post-heresy are obviously not personally overseen by the Emperor, but the process remains. Not many details on that though apart from the genecraft working on every individual cell rather than being organ transplants like the space marines.
>>737429736>Like nearly all power generation being about boiling water to turn a wheel.
>>737429819You have to remember that the Emperor wasn't always this powerful, he was substantially less powerful before Moloch, and the throne itself acts as an amplifier, and on top of that by the time this happens he's being directly empowered by the worship of countless trillions of human beings who are becoming progressively more and more psychic. He is basically steps above an Old One by now, and the Eldar never reached that level of psychic might.
>>737430020There's really not a lot we can do about it, boiling water is like 90% efficient, that's hard as fuck to beat.
>>737415338
>>737423085I believe that the Trygon/Ravener are literally Hydralisk rip-offs (the designs are from 2001 compared to Starcraft in 1998).
Why did Horace do it?
>>737430081I always thought converting heat into steam to spin a turbine is one of the most inefficient things you could do.at least in hydro you use the raw force of water rushing down to turn the wheel. steam just sounds to inefficent.
>>737417961https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaS-pxWDfpY
>>737430296
>>737430081Water is such based molecule
>>737430348>at least in hydro you use the raw force of water rushing down to turn the wheelAnd how did the water get up there?>well you see, the sun evapora-
>>737430296The Horace heresy
>>737430439>And how did the water get up there?
>>737422356Nigga those souls are literally eaten by the astronomican or the golden throne to keep him alive. There is literally nothing left to put in an afterlife. Everything is consumed
>>737430484Man I hope you don't have an electric stove, because...
>>737420630The tau coomers are secondaries. Canonically tau women don't look like the fanart those coomers spam. We legitimately don't even know if they have breasts, because zero official art of tau women has shown them having tits.
>>737421585It is funny how our resident eldar hated just wholly ignored the fact that GW has been releasing stellar new Eldar kits, the latest ones came out just few months ago.
>>737430515The ones that get soulbound stay with him in part it seems, Guilliman could sense Malcador in the Emperor when he went for a chat and daddy got his psychic freak on.
>>737422428Not every human, just the important ones. Mostly spess merehns tho. The legion of the damned. Effectively emperor's lesser demons/actual angels.
>>737422770Why the fuck are the spines coming out of the shoulders on that top left hydra? That looks retarded.
>>737429413They tried but the galaxy is a big place and eventually they moved on to more entertaining activities.>Many of their tomb complexes had been destroyed, whether by natural disasters or the vengeful attention of the Aeldari, who had sought out Szarekhan worlds with particular venom.
>>737430708That's how they've always fired.In SC1 they had big weird vents on their shoulders that would open up when attacking. In SC2 Kerrigan had the vents removed and the spines would sjmply griw and be fired from the torso, since she didn't care if it hurt the Hydralisks.
>>737425921Eldar do still maintain and repair the webay on some limited extent. The issue is more to due to just how much fucking work properly fixing the entirety of the webway would entail than outright inherent inability to repair it. Commoragh is dependent on the Dark Eldar being able to maintain and repair the webway gates and other shit tied to the webway that keep the City "intact" and the Dark Eldar avoid using psychic powers entirely so clearly you don't actually need to be a psyker to work on the webway system.
>>737420676>>737420821You would need the shadow in the warp to even manage to block all that energy coming from the warp, but that would imply you would allow the tyranids to set presence on earth which is not happening
>>737430641Malcy gave the last of his energy to big E directly so he could speak and give his last will to his empire before being enthroned in the pain chair. That's different but it's possible part of the psychic imprint is left in the throne after consumed. Which makes this even a bigger mess because 10,000 years of pain chair + millions of psyker imprints being tied to the throne, big E and the astronomican would make an even bigger mess of what is left of big E psyker presence and if I am not mistaken the astronomican's nommed soul imprints already coalesced into a demigod like being that sometimes shows up to troll the 3 eye niggers and some psyker.
>>737430905>a demigod like being that sometimes shows up to trollsounds like tau'va too lol
>>737415910Blackships have a crap ton of nulls in the walls to silence the warp. The sisters of silence are there in case those fail and they end with a localized warp portal and they have to turn it off or kill some demons.
>>737430964yea. The tau also formed their own demigod like being in the warp but only after they let humans into their ranks. Basically humans did it on their own.Apparently the etereals are disgusted by it because they know what's going on.
>>737429569Yes. Eldar are far more technologically advanced than humanity is. The only race more advanced tech wise than the Eldar are the Necrons and even that is only in regards some elements of their tech, whereas on other avenues like psychic engineering the Eldar surpass even the Necrons, for pretty obvious reasons.In terms of tech Imperium generally is only above the tau and orks though even with the tau only the best imperial tech is better than tau technology while the orks have some retarded shit like tellyportas and tractor beams that the imperium can't replicate at all.
>>737416057@_@ emperor forgive me..
>>737430797Looks fucking dumb given the size of the spines etc. I always assumed that it was the grooves on the head carapace from which the spines were fired, and that is how I am going to model my hydras.
>>737431082>tau goddess>actually humanI love it, because the way humans in the tau empire view the Greater Good is not the way the ethereals view it, and the bigger they grow, the more humans they will inevitably take in.
>>737431153>>737430797Getting rid of the SC1 design was a mistake.
>>737431114DAOT Humans were above the Eldar, even having ships that could nullify Eldar foresight. Humans were starting to take over much of the galaxy and border skirmishe with the Eldar were becoming common, with Humans winning them more often than not. Maiden Worlds were extremely valuable to Humans as well which led to conflcts with Exodites, which DAOT Humans would almost always beat out.Another 200-300 years and DAOT Humans would have prevented Slaanesh from being born by way of dismantling tbe Eldar Empire.
>>737430554If it was up to current GW, SoB wouldn't have tits either
>>737416930Tau are barely shorter than humans and it's believed they have similar base body strength. Their warrior caste would definitely be ripped. That being said, they were never really trained to do bayonet charges and while "brainwashed" into the greater good thing, the faith in the emperor is stronger so you can have regular guard with heavy chainsaws somehow beat an ork in melee but no tau will ever beat an ork in melee without a battlesuit.Humans are just way crazier and understand how absolutely fucked up the galaxy is. Tau believe they can still fight it all out by staying clean way out of range of the enemy.
>>737431281I wouldn't say DaoT tech was above Eldar, but it is implied they consistently fought each other to a standstill purely with just automated armies, to the point they just signed non-aggression pacts.
>>737418264Tard rage
>>737431114actually the reality bending bullshit and ctan even out the rest, even the psychic bullshit isnt enough to surpass necron hell they have anti warp shit
>>737430905I mean, remember during the Plague War when Mortarion killed Roboute but Emp just took over, resurrected him then proceeded to burn Nurgle's garden? Do we attribute that to Emp himself or the god worshipped by the Imperium as Emp?
>>737431281>DAOT Humans were above the EldarThey explicitly weren't. DAOT humanity lived under the shadow of the pre-fall eldar empire. The Eldar were entirely unopposed in their dominion over the galaxy before their fall, that is one of the fucking cornerstones of 40k lore. The very reason they fell into decadence that led to their fall is because they faced no challenges or real obstacles for millions of years, leading to cultural ennui and boredom on a species level which created fertile grounds on which the pleasure cults etc could grow.There is zero lore that backs up the notion that DaoT humanity was in any way superior to pre-fall eldar and the only people who spout that notion are imperium fanboys that can't accept that humanity isn't the hottest shit in 40k.Your post is basically entirely just fanwank that has zero basis on actual lore. >>737431389Even that notion isn't actually backed up by lore. There is scant nothing we know of DAOT humanity, it isn't even known if it was an cohesive and united political entity rather than a myriad of human empires fighting each other and xenos around them. What is known of that time is that the Eldar were the dominant race in the galaxy, and no other race posed any threat to them. This is 40k lore 101. The nature of the pre-fall eldar empire is also not very well known, but we do know some things, like that it was centered heavily around what became eye of terror, and that their webway infrastructure spanned the galaxy, their methods of terraforming were slow and "naturalistic", creating paradize worlds by just seeding them and watching them develop over millions of years, and that the proto craftoworlds served as trade vessels. The eldar of that time could also essentially reincarnate.
>>737431201>let humans in your tau empire >humans worship the emperor >convince them the greater good is just the emperor or some shit>humans, like most races, have the need to put their own faces to their deities (eldar do this as well, so do orks)>humans end up creating a minor demigod like being based on the emperor mixed with the greater good>eventually the tau empires grows (lol lmao)>humans become so numerous in Tau space they effectively create a second emperor in the warp>tfw you are a blueberry that understand none of what's happening because you have effectively no warp presence >tfw you got displaced by the humans you were ruling over because they created a god like being on their image.
>>737431629stop wanking the boring elves brah
>>737431648The ethereals deserve it, smelly bastards they are
>>737431619YesBut jokes aside they are likely both the same. If big E were to return at this point he would be a tremendous mess of a being. Would also end up returning as another chaos god instead of just as big E
>>737428078Do the Deldar do that? Last I checked as a whole they are the scrub punks on the playground only above the Tau who are now adapting. The main thing is you don't want to be taken alive by one
>>737431661My posts are based on actual fucking lore of the setting, dipshit. Primarily Eldar and Necron codexes (regarding the pre-fall Eldar empire) and the Asurmen novel which details the pre-fall eldar empire on some detail (like the element of the Eldar being able to reincarnate before birth of slaanesh.)Where do you source the idea that DAOT humanity in any way surpassed the Eldar?
>>737431745i was exaggerating but didnt they turn the bat bois to wusses who hate the dark?
>>737431754>Where do you source the idea that DAOT humanity in any way surpassed the Eldar?My schizo headcanon that I found on 1d4chan
>>737431754Oh I am not the guy you were talking to, I just wanted to be a dick kek
>>737431560Yeah, necrons have anti warp tech and Ctan fuckery. My point was more that they can't really do the psychic engineering bs the Eldar can. Like D-weapons and D-scythes for example are heavily based on psychic/warp engineering due to the way they function. The former opens holes into the warp and tears shit apart that way and the later severes the souls of living entities from their corporeal bodies.
>>73742807840k is about Space Marines. People often don't realize this because of secondary media like Dawn of War, but the only faction that matters in 40k is the Imperium, with Space Marines being the de facto protagonists of the setting. All non-human factions don't matter beyond being window dressing for Humans to shoot at and slaughter en masse.
>>737431849the warp is weird
>>7374317981d4chan, as much as I am fond of it and the old /tg/ culture it was spawned out of, has caused so much seconary retardation to 40k fanbase.I wish people would just read the fucking codexes. You can just find PDFs of them on the internet, it's not like you have to buy them.
>>737431281The Eldar Empire is consistently portrayed as overwhelmingly dominant in its time.>There were, of course, many wars. Even when the galaxy was young there were upstart races seeking to gouge out petty empires of their own, and the Aeldari waged wars against the sprawling Necron dynasties that ravaged dozens of star systems and cost trillions of lives. Most of these conflicts, though, were so short-lived that the ease of their victory left the Aeldari ever more sure of their ascendancy. >In the wake of the War in Heaven, the stars were inherited by those species created by the Old Ones. Among them were the Aeldari. Powerfully psychic and technologically adept, they came to dominate the galaxy. At the peak of their might nothing was beyond their reach, their powers were godlike and their armies were nigh on undefeatable. >"Our people ruled the stars when this world was ruled by reptiles. Many came against us – the soulless ones, the krork at the apex of their might, in comparison to which this latest species is laughable, the Cythor and a thousand other races so terrible your intellects could not comprehend them. Even your own ancestors and their unliving legions attacked us at the so-called height of your race. We defeated them all."Remember they still had their gods at this point, they psykers were not yet nerfed by Slaneesh and their tech was comparable to the Necrons.
>>737431629>Even that notion isn't actually backed up by loreIt is, the last surviving Eldar in Throneworld makes mention of pre-fall Eldar fighting Man's "unliving legions", and we know that back in those days, the Eldar's war waging was mostly done by their psychic constructs as well. It's not a stretch to imagine most of humanity and the eldar's wars were just fought with robots with not a single shred of skin in the game.
>>737431970lame as hell, good thing they job now
>>737431973I meant the whole standstill part. Yeah, both pre-fall eldar and daot humanity fought largely with automated armies, with the eldar wielding psychic constructs and weapons while humans fought using what were most likely the men of iron. The idea that humanity was a threat or a real competitor to the pre-fall eldar however is not backed up by this lore.
>>737431970That last quote comes from the Guy Haley book where the Harlequins fight the Custodes. It's untruthful Eldarwank from a character who shouldn't even be in the book.Eldar have never win a major conflict in the history of 40k. The only reason their Empire even lasted so long was because Chaos was waiting for Mankind to reach a certain point, and when it was reached Slaanesh ended the Eldar's "sixty million year reign" in the span of a century.
>>737432098The lore also makes mention that DaoT humanity signed non-aggression pacts with many xenos races, even before the cybernetic revolt. That would have naturally included the Eldar.
>>737431970It is heavily implied by some lore bits that even the Eldar gods started out as psychic weapons, that the later generations of Eldar began to venerate as gods.
>>737432201jobber numero uno
>>737432016>>737432150Uh oh imperiumfag melty
>>737431970It makes them look retarded that Necrons(and Orks) are still around. Also you should take every info with a grain of salt when the source is a pleb from the civilization in question.
>>737427528The same Custodes that get their shit rocked by a slightly more roided than usual cockroach?
>>737432256nah I don't think the imperium are any better, I just dont like elves much
>>737432296Contemporary orks in 40k are nothing like their ancient ancestors though, and even necron codexes awknowledge the fact that shittons of tomb worlds were fucked over by the vengeful eldar during the long sleep and what remains of the necron race is a fragmented shadow of what their empire was at their height.
>>737424512What's the rationale behind Eldars being stronger than Humans, fluff-wise? They all look extremely skinny and fragile.
>>737432150>The only reason their Empire even lasted so long was because Chaos was waiting for Mankind to reach a certain point, and when it was reached Slaanesh ended the Eldar's "sixty million year reign" in the span of a century.Sixty million years is a great run considering humans only lasted a few thousand at their peak and never even got to be top dog in the galaxy.
>>737431970It is legitimately funny how some imperium fans get so assmad over the fact that the pre-fall eldar were superior to humanity.
>>737432415tightly coiled dense muscles or something
>>737432415Eldar are engineered bioweapons that were used by the Old Ones to fight the crons. They’re supposed to the scalpel to the orkz’ cudgel, but even a precision tool needs to be strong enough to cut deep when needed.
>>737432415Servitor race created for the sole purpose of fighting a super empire which had godlike tech and was backed by material gods. You need gigachads and stacies for that.
>>737432415Given how fast the Eldar are in terms of movement it makes sense that they are somewhat stronger than baseline humans. You can't be fast without being strong as well because you need powerful muscles to propel yourself fast. I mean, the Eldar are faster than space marines who are also fast as fuck. Space marines are obviously stronger physically than the eldar are due to their augmented bodies though. The eldar generally are a race that focuses more on speed and dexterity in terms of their physical prowess.That said, the eldar are in general superhuman beings in terms of their physical and mental capabilities when compared to baseline humans.
>>737432415Their musculature is more densely packed and engineered than natural Human evolution. Eldar are leftover bioweapons like Orks, while Humans only evolved long after the war in heaven was beyond ancient history.
Emperor is technically a big fancy golden servitor now
>>737432647i read somewhere that they have a 16 or so helix DNA structure or something
>>737415338perfect now learn the truth
>>737432762Triple helix, no word on how many base pairs, but it can be assumed to be greater than four.
>in the imperium of mankind they kill you for doing a good job
>>737432669Oh shit, he is though.
>>737420630gw's weeb pandering was off by two decades
>>737432873orks have a triple helix too right? with one part being the fungus
>>737432775I find this to be a very sexually charged image
>>737432962No idea, all I know is that Orkoid cells are a confusing blend of animal and fungi, and that they're not so much a race as they are an entire ecosystem.
>>737432943he is stationed and does tasks to serve mankind and gets fueled everyday and is in constant agony, only difference is he gets fed spooky mental ghosts instead of whatever fuels regular servitors
>>737432296You can place blame for crons and orkz terrorizing the galaxy on the hubris and complacency of the knife ears. The fruity bastards figured that if neither race were a proper threat to them during their apex then the problem may as well have been nonexistent. This is why the Eldar deserved Slaanesh, losing Isha, the Doom of Malan’tai, and whatever else comes down the pipeline to fuck them specifically. The Eldar are in a perpetual losing game of catch up for mistakes they could’ve solved early but ignored, actively created, or are too pridefully dickish to work with others to rectify without being utter cunts about it.
>>737433063They even replaced bits with cybernetics. He's a fucking servitor, holy shit.
>>737433073Nercons were a trouble to everyone including the old ones themselves when they had the best doomsday weapons and were ruled over by the ctan but then shit happened and ctan ate each other and weapons were destroyed and necron revolted and yade yade yada and here we are now
>>737416558Emps got so powerful not just from the bunch of psykers, but from the sacrifice of all the rest of the psychic potential of the humanity for tens of thousands of years. Can't do that now.
>>737433114from the greatest thing/unit in the entire imperium to the lowest unit type so to speak
>>737416930They are shit at melee*Compared to fucking eugenics demigods, eugenics demigods empored by hell, soldiers using WW1 melee tactics (that is, just lynch the enemy before they can fully kill you if you are in range since likely you outnumber the enemy 10 to 1), space bugs, space elfs, space orks, and inmortal terminator skeletons.But 1v1 a relatively normal person? They are decent. They also have military training to run like hell, and have a caste completely dedicated to military affairs.Fire Caste Taus are ripped.
>>737433296but arent they still weak compared to humans? even the ripped fire warriors
>>737433362Yo average Tau is weaker than yo average human
>>737420630It's pretty straightforward. Eldar lorewise have almost no reason to socially interact with a baseline or even an enhanced human normally, and even if they did a human is like a disabled person to a T'au on a spiritual level. Unless they're psychic a human is fundamentally incapable of even approaching what an Eldar would consider a meaningful relationship. To the Eldar it'd be like a human having a romantic relationship with a chimpanzee.Tau on the other hand have numerous reasons why any of the castes would regularly be interacting with Gue'vesa on the level of relative equals. Even if lore suggests that "intermingling" to the degree of romance is a no-no all that does is add a degree of forbidden love to the mix.
>>737433073Or you could blame the Necrons for starting shit in the first place and then making a deal with evil space gods (totally not chaos version) when they got their ass kicked by frogs. Hell you can blame the necrons for the eldar and orks even existing.
>>737433387Tau society doesn't really have the concept of love and romance on their own though. Tau don't have families for example.
'Ate worship'Ate Farsight'Ate Enclaves'Ate gue'laNot racist, just don't like emLuv me EtherealsLuv me Aun'shiLuv me Greater GoodSimple as
>>737433410why didnt dem frogs/lizards help them from the first place?
>>737433204I'm well aware of that anon, I'm saying that the necron are one of the problems the Eldar could've solved. hell, I'd wager if they put all that time and energy spent torture-fucking She Who Thirsts into being towards a proper eradication campaign of the spoopy space skellies and greenskins they'd have both solved two problems plaguing the galaxy and potentially staved off the creation of a new warp god for at least another century or so.
>Tau porn this>Tau porn thatBut can we get some decent lore bits? Anything? Maybe some interactions with other factions where they are not gullible or straight batshit retarded? Haha
>>737433525maybebut based on how the eldar act now and shit, I feel something would have went wrong regardless
>>737433468I like Farsigh because he is basically Char of 40k.https://youtu.be/BcvIDoewsHc?t=35
>>737433362Yes and no, they are strictly weaker because they're smaller and lighter than humans and have worse instincts and near distance eyesight, but they are stronger than their size and mass would suggest. Human strength advantage is pretty much synonymous with size advantage and a greater mental capacity for getting into melee. Tau like ranged because their farsight (heh) makes them excellent sharpshooters.
>>737433478Necrons were a violent and fractious race, giving them immortality would not have helped them.
Necrons realized the primordial truth of this world; Might makes right. Just be strong buddy, or engage in shady deals to btfo stronger people.
>>737433713no need for immortality, they could have solved their sun issue in many other ways, they are the old ones for crying out loud
>>737433554My brother in christ, most of this thread is pure lore discussion and minimal Tau porn.
>>737420676Nobody knows about that
Give it to me straight boys, is DoWIV gonna suck?I’m starved for RTS and I know Total War isn’t going to scratch that same itch for me.
>>737433775I mean overall
>>737432201>loses to calgar>godlol
>>737430029You can rationalize it however you want, the way they did it just reads as the usual glazing of the mahriens they always do. Standing in front of a really big fire doesn't make you go "few could survive it", no you're just struck in awe by the magnitude of something so much bigger and mightier than you. That kind of awe was already there and worked just fine
>>737425130His webway was held together by shoestring, it might have collapsed anyway
>>737433713They didn't need to grant them immortality, just help them not have a cancer so profound that it seeps into their very souls. I'd be pissed and violent all the time too if I knew dying to cancer was a when rather than an if.
>>737433841no shit
>>737433758Leaving their home system didn't solve their cancer issues, their DNA was perma-fucked from evolving in that environment. Certainly the Old Ones could have helped them with that, but for whatever stupid reason they didn't, we have no idea what their reasoning was.>make eldar with massive fucking lifespans during the war in heavenShitposters supreme I guess
40k is so fucking gay compared to 30k
>>737433465The closest equivalent for the T'au is a form of Blood bonding where you essentially sweat intense personal loyalty and affection for one or more individuals.But not knowing what love is is no hurdle too gooners. it's an old trope >"Gue'Vesa, I was researching humsn culture and I had a question. can you show me what 'love' is?"
>>737423951Malice is canon, just barely features. The Sons of Malice show up every now and then, and its mentioned they worship Malice. Recently, GW has been leaning into there being 8 potential Chaos gods, and the description of one of the other four sounds a lot like Malice
>>737433898>muh primarchvengers30k is the worst thing to happen to the setting
>>737433468But Farshite is pro Greater Good, he just hates ze jude caste
>>737433841it's being made by a company with no experience in making rts games, one of the most difficult genres to get rightthe trailers also look really mediocre and low budget with a lot of reused models and poor animationit's gonna be shit but GW fags will still buy it
>>737433862Then he was a poor god, but a god nonetheless
>>737423951Sort of, he was part of the OG Warhammer lore, but because the character was created by Alan Grant and Wagner, Goy Niggershop are a nightmare when it comes to stuff that they don't completely own.Instead of Malice we have the Dark King in 40K
>>737428208The Tau are planning to invade Ultramar, and the Orks just invented a mass effect relay
>>737434090It has been funny seeing imperium fanboy secondaries scramble and screetch on twitter about how the tau are totally worse than imperium when nothing in the actual lore supports such notion.The average human living under tau rule has far greater quality of life than 99 percent of imperial citizens.
>>737433625Not until he decapites an ethereal with a bazooka.
>Mossashit>Bait post
>>737434201>Orks just inventedNow that's what I like to hear.
>>737429413Because the Necrons were a later addition to the game that causes the pre-existing War in Heaven and Eldar lore to not make sense
I like bling, blood and extreme melee violence without sucking chaos cock.
>>737434201Orks? TRVE successors of Old Ones
>>737434234That's how you know that the Tau don't fit into the Warhammer setting
>>737434201>orks invented a way to go from A to B without the fun demon fight tunnel in the middleFor what reason
>>737433073If the Eldar were concerned about future threats, they'd have wiped out humanity immediately anyway. I guess they didn't care after 60 million years of peace
>>737434374The tau fit into 40k just fine. They are the foil to the imperium, a society on an upward trend of growth contrasted to the death spiral the imperium is in, and the fading light of the eldar.
>>737434329Can't help with the bling, but if you want more extreme melee violence lads then the Carcharodons are the guys for you.
>>737434418Don't worry, years will pass and they'll retcon it. Just like with Necron and Tau non-warp FTLs.
>>737434163the only other game they released is an RTS game anon
>>737434418https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/0gmcnp9x/lore-of-armageddon-part-3-ghazghkulls-grand-plan/>The renewed Ork invasion of Armageddon appeared to come out of nowhere, and, in a way, it did. Rather than give the Imperium time to prepare as he sailed his massive fleet through the system towards the planet, Ghazghkull turned to his new secret weapon – the mega-tellyshokka, an unimaginably massive teleportation device built by the greatest congregation of Ork ‘genius’ ever assembled. It was this contraption that tore apart the planet on which Yarrick nearly met his end, and now it has flung the entire Ork fleet across impossible distances into the heart of the Armageddon System.>The idea for the mega-tellyshokka came from the collective cunning and experience of Ghazghkull, notorious Bad Moon Warlord Nazdreg, and the shadowy Big Mek (or Big Meks) known to the Imperium by the codename ‘Orkimedes’. Both Ork Bosses had ample experience with tellyporta technology after using them on Piscina IV to batter a significant Dark Angels garrison, and after several disastrous attempts to use a single, vast engine,* Nazdreg hit upon the solution – ten custom Kill Kroozers that channelled a gateway through the Warp like the sticky-outy, whirly gubbinz on a shokk attack gun.>This way, the kroozers could travel separately under heavy guard, then assemble when Ghazghkull needed them. Their alignment could be modified on the fly, so they wouldn’t teleport millions of Orks into solid rock, and if one blew up for fun, it wouldn’t take out the entire array. It was, by all rights, a plan of spectacular genius for the Orks. And then it only went and worked.Ghaz is just smart
>>737434234Tau should keep castrating humans.
>>737432186That does not seem natural at all. The US doesn't have a non-aggression pact with Rwanda, after all.
*kills three custodes at melee range with ease*Heh, nothing personnel.
>>737434649>NOOOOOO THIS DIDN'T HAPPEN
>>737434556Orks are so fucking based
>>737434649>entire race is prophesied to die out
Who is going to defeat Peter Turbo this time? Are they going to bring back Dorn?
>>737434773Likely Russ.
>>737434556it does what?
>>737434773From the recent campaign book, its looking like Eldrad and Ulthwe, Creed's daughter and her Cadians, and the Imperial Fists are bringing the Phalanx
>>737434556>Only orks get cool shit
>>737434957Oh fuck, that's Peter Turbo these days?
>>737418035It creates the Emperor of Manind?
>>737434957I have to wonder what the reaction would be to Eldrad defeating Pertruabo.
>>737434974good
>>737434957>MORE Cadian spam
>>737434773>Who is going to defeat Peter Turbo this time?He will sabotage his own plans in a moment of seething spite.
>>737435064No doubt Imperiumfags would find a reason to seethe about eldar once again.
>>737435103>book is about perturabo's plan to conquer the Cadian Gate for good>the forces opposing him are Cadians and Ulthwe, the main subfactions who watch the Eye of TerrorI get the complaints when they show up at Armageddon and shit, but this is the one place where there should be Cadians
>>737435103Please understand, no other imperial guard exists besides cadian and death korps. Catachan will get a mention every once in a while.
>>737435238because blowing Cadia up should have been the end of fighting over Cadia for all eternity tbqhwymove it along GW
>>737434201Imperium could NEVER
>>737434201>The Tau are planning to invade Ultramarkino
>>737435345Hey you still have Steel Legion
>>737434556I don't get it, what do the kill kroozers do to make it a safe trip? whirly gubbinz? I don't know much about orky tech
>>737435345no one cares about death korp (forma de yellow) or the slavshits, sorry
>>737435346We're still fighting over Armageddon when that shit is literally a blasted rock at this point
>>737435464They just made webway gate forma la Ork. Kinda how necrons use hacked webway to move around.
>>737435345>catachan will get a mention every once in a whileBut not a new box. Never a new box.
>>737435464They each carry the generator and split the load so when one explodes the whole fleet doesn't go with it.
>>737435560Ok but i don't get the details on how it works because it sounds cool but i cant picture it since i don't know that much about their gadgetswhich is weird since i like orks
*servo skull noises*
>>737434953>>737435464Orks have a gun called the shok attack, which basically opens up a miniature warp gate, that they shoot squigs through so they teleport inside enemies. Ghaz and buddies came up with creating really big shok guns to put on their ships.This isn't out of nowhere too, Orks have always had the best teleportation tech of all the factions, they're just mostly too stupid to make effective use of it. But back in the War of the Beast for example, they were teleporting attack moons into Terra's orbit
>>737434418>fight daemons on the way to armageddonOr>fight armageddon soonerI think we know what the orks prefer at this point
>>737435663>Ok but i don't get the details on how it worksthat's fine, neither do the orkzit just workz (tm)
>>737435663>>737435691Imagine giant versions of this
>>737435663Genius mekboys, duct tape and WAAAAGH
>>737435749Damn I know about this gun, so a big fuck off portal to the webway powered by a bunch of warships?
>>737434459Just kidding. I love the taste of chaos dick in my mouth.
>>737433994>tau, female custodes, sisters of battle, female space marines soon, brownoids featured prominently on every book cover40k trannies should unironically end it
>Eldar are a dying race>One of their most memorable units is an all-women melee squad that sprints directly into close combatAre they stupid? Do they just want all their women to die horribly?
>>737430797>>737431270I always thought they were spitting acid
>>737436487Eldar moids are only good for wearing dresses and casting spells.
>>737434726While I normally would say that writers deciding that random chucklefucks can solo a gorrillion custodes while blindfolded is absolutely retarded, this one might get a pass.The collective souls and physical prowess of the best Elder swordsmen, that decided they weren't killing quite enough and then left to go murder more for an additional 5000 years, would probably stand a chance against custodes.I still think three at once is a pretty big stretch, though.
>>737436457Tau is from late 3rd edition. They're older than the majority of the fanbase
>>737436487The whole "dying race" bit is missunderstood. There are still billions of Eldar, the craftworlders are the most populous eldar around as well. The issue with them is more that their population growth rate is handicapped by the need for soulstones and the fact that the other races in the galaxy breed faster than the eldar. The eldar are in a precarious position where they can't establish a firm enough footing to start to rebuild and thus are on a decline. One of the primary reasons why Biel-Tan is so protective of Maiden worlds is because they view those worlds as necessary footholds in the galaxy for the eventual re-establishment of the Eldar supremacy over the galaxy.
>>737436487Hey now fire dragons also sprint forward and die and are all male
>>737433362>superhuman genetically engineered warrior monk practicing war for 10k years>66% accuracy with gunsGameplay stats are heavily abstracted. Fire warriors having ws 2 (5+) is for game balance and flavor.
>>737436487>>737437003If we want to get technical, all Aspect Shrines are unisex.Femboy Banshees and Tomboy Dragons exist.
Uh oh I hear them coming. The 500 lb janitors coming to delete or move this thread because we DARE speak of Warhammer 40k on here (despite having like a million video game adaptations). We NEED to purge this thread to make room for another 'gooner ai slop' thread or 'completely redundant question' thread!
>>737437026The stats also change from edition to edition. At one point Eldar Guardians were just as good shots as space marines were for example.
>>737436993>the craftworlders are the most populous eldar around as wellThat would be the Dark Eldar by a country mile.
>>737436993Why not just make big fuck off webgate and teleport some eldar core worlds out of the Eye? Or just push, physically.
>>737437182It bugged me how guardians are so weak in dawn of war 1.
>>737437202Where else to Dark Eldar live besides Commorragh or on pirate ships? They don't have colonies or Maiden Worlds.
>>737437202That would be more logical given how the Dark Eldar society works and how they don't use soulstones but GW has flat out said that the Craftworlders are the most populous of the Eldar so that's the canon.Remember that there are always as many elves as needed for whatever story GW is trying to tell, be it in 40k or fantasy.
>>737436487>Eldar are a dying raceIt's a "plot point" GW did in early codexes because it sounded cool. Obviously they won't kill an entire main (at least on paper) faction. The Ynnead really hammered home the fact that Eldar have 100's setting altering Plot Points and It's obvious GW does not want to do them because it would rock the BOAT too much. And Impact sales.
>>737437182>At one point Eldar Guardians were just as good shots as space marines were for example.They still are.
>>737437358Commoragh's really big
>>737437219You cannot just make more webway. All the webway that exists has existed since it was made by the Old Ones about 50 bazzillion years ago.Eldar just tap into it much like drilling a hole into the side of a pipe, except you don't know where the pipe goes or how big it is.There are even Eldar paths specifically based around trying to map the webway corridors and finding new ones that might get Eldar where they want to go.
>>737437182>Eldar GuardiansAin't those just civvies squatting in Craftworld?
>>737437358Commoragh is like, stupidly, insanely fucking huge place. It is said that imperial hive cities look like ant hills when compared to the sheer size of Commoragh.It also sort of fucked in terms of it's dimensions, due to it being actually a massive congregation of different webway ports all stiched together via webway gates. The "physical" locations within commoragh may in real space terms be lightyears away from one another but within Commoragh due to the webway gates that connect the place together, such distances can be crossed with a single step. And yeah, there are webway gates within the webway. Commoragh doesn't make much physical sense at all, it is basically a colossal non-euclidian megastructure version of Kowloon.
>>737435021Yep. And his daemon form is pretty in much what people expected. Aldough Some wanted him to be Knight or even Titan sized walking Fortress of Guns.
>>737437515How big is it?
my heroes
>>737437358Commorragh is a giant non-Euclidean super-structure, so they don't really need anywhere else. >>737437370>GW has flat out said that the Craftworlders are the most populous of the EldarI suppose I could just trust GW to be retarded, but where was it said?
>>737437520Then go hire some professional ork engineers to zapp your planet to some other place, with a small chance of exploding the said planet.
>>737437436They hit on 3+ in the current edition. I don't remember if the old ws and bs system translated to the same dice roll being required to hit or if it was different because this>>737437182 is from before GW simplified the rules.
>>737416930The Tau, with their caste system, has a Taufu for all tastes and pleasures!
>>737437540They're militia, which ranges from>Adults given standardized training to provide battle support for Aspect WarriorsTo>Elite spec ops squads being led by Warlocks as shock infantryDepending on the Craftworld.
>>737437571>The Drukhari scorn the laws of physics with the same careless arrogance they view any other limitations to their power. Envisioned by the convoluted minds of inhuman monsters and fashioned through arcane sciences in a realm beyond the purely material, Commorragh’s dimensions verge on the incomprehensible to any lesser intellect than its creators. No sentient mortal can truly look upon the Dark City in its entirety, for its bladed spires stretch beyond. sight while its interwoven environs sprawl in fractal multiplicity. Even if one somehow did achieve this feat of nigh-omnipotent perception, there is little doubt they would be driven screaming mad by the experience. Less of a city and more of a megastructure comprising of many subrealms and pocket dimensions. Fun fact, there might be an unshattered c'tan imprisoned inside a Commoragh subrealm
>>737437594They look like if the power rangers mixed with the monsters they fight
>>737417961>reduced by -1Why not just say increases by 1
>CommoraghI thought that shitplace is on its way to the inevitable collapse
>>737437595The codex generally says that, 10th edition says it>Of the fractured and scattered remnants of the Aeldari, the most numerous are the Asuryani. However, there is a white dwarf article from 2014 that says the Deldar are more populous. And that quote about the asuryani is sometimes accompanied by it including the dead in the infinity circuits
>>737437595I can't find the exact source for it atm, I think it was either in the more recent Eldar codexes or in a Warhammer community article. I however distinctly remember this being something official that GW has published/stated because before reading it myself I was under the impression that Dark Eldar were the more populous eldar around due to it just making more sense to me given how Deldar society works vs how Craftworld Eldar society works.
>>737436487They take ages to reproduce and a life of war for survival means they die more frequently than they can replenish their numbers. They can't reincarnate anymore, without soulstones, craftworld eldar are taken by slaanesh. Dark eldar are taken by slaanesh when they fail to renew themselves through torturing people. They don't have a lot of planets they can just live on, and it's dangerous to do so because not being on the move or within the webway makes them a target to chaos, and the entire galaxy is full of hostile aliens who would normally like nothing better than to kill them and take their stuff. There are only a limited number of craftworlds and they can only carry so many. They're ultimately doomed, they know it, typically the only reason they even get into fights is literally to save lives elsewhere, and they are always running that calculus.Male banshees are a thing by the way, and yes, they still wear the armor with boob plate and shriek like women. Imagine choosing that path in life. What a joke.
>>737437594Aspect Warriors and Phoenix Lords are fucking cool and underappreciated. They are imo far cooler than space marines.
>>737437831It is just in the same way as the imperium is on slow, inevetable path towards total collapse.
>>737437831>Despite the delights of this anarchic age, few Drukhari are fool enough to miss that their civilisation is spiralling towards possible annihilation. Yet they are all too self-interested to try to halt the slide, and too arrogant by far to believe the consequences could possibly impact them. And so the cycle of destructive mayhem continues, with no end in sight. That's just the way the assholes like it
>>737437594If only Karandras were here.
>>737437545Can it be expanded any further? Are Deldar explorers poking around the edges of the city looking for more webway gates so they can build a new suburban development?
>>737437923Counting the dead eldar souls inhabiting the infinity circuits is kind of cheating.
>>737437923>>737437958Thank you, so the usual source conflict/retardation.
>>737438168Trust the plan, he'll be coming next edition.
>>737426681>They don't>One of the most popular factions apart from Chaos and imperigay faggots>More popular than Orks and Eldar
>>737437550is he a human with a big armor or a armor with a big human
>>737438318>nidsMostly female players I hear.
>>737438176The edges are mostly waste lands inhabited by the Deldar who've been drained too much. Commoragh usually expands by stealing other subrealms and planets. The haemonculi once stole an entire Tyranid infested planet to put in Commoragh so they could farm it
>>737438367It's a spider tank with a guy inside
>>737438318>NecronsZamn
>>737438181To be fair, they can be deployed as wraiths and can otherwise be used for psychic stuff, so it is relevant when considering the resources a craftworld has
>>737438318BROS NOBODY LIKE THOSE SHITTY CLOWN NUCRONS, THE RETCON WAS A MISTAKE BRING BACK THE OLDCRONS REEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>737438458Can you fugg wraithguard?
>>737438439Necrons, Death Guard, and Nids all have the Starter Box Boost. Orks will get the same sort of bump late this year.
>>737438547Yes but they're mostly retarded. Iyanden keeps their wraiths out in the open and wraithguard hallucinate their lives in their old homes. Wraithlords are the smart ones
>>737438406>The haemonculi once stole an entire Tyranid infested planet to put in Commoragh so they could farm itThat sounds like a terrible idea that will 100% backfire at some point.
>>737438168The Kardashians are gay.
>>737437550So he's yet another crab mech.
>>737438673Welcome to Dark Eldar
>>737438547If you can convince a Bonesinger to install a Wraithbone fleshlight, then yes.
>>737438673It already has lol, Hive Fleet Leviathan is now trying to breach Commoragh
>>737438673Oh yeah, they're constantly pulling shit that backfires and destroys entire districts, but who cares, the only ones that die for real are the poor and slaves.
>>737438704no that's a fanart I've found On facebook. He is more likely just. Himself but bigger and with more guns.
>>737434773Abaddon. Perty is starting shit with the Black Legion, he’s fucked.
>>737438704>>737438814Official art of Daemon Pert came out not too long ago, posted in >>737434957He is indeed just Large Man.
>>737438673Not only that, there was also some Hemonculi that began grafting tyranid bioweapons etc to their wracks and themselves for fun. It is heavily implied that there are actual genestealer cults in Commoragh as well.
>>737438673>Working in concert to achieve an audacious feat of theft and desecration, covens under the leadership of Urien Rakarth steal the Tyranid infested Exodite world Lethidia from realspace and set it in the extradimensional firmament above Commorragh. Provided with an entire biosphere of warring Tyranid bioforms, Lethidian macrofauna and tormented Aeldari souls, the Haemonculi of the undercity enjoy countless delightful new diversions. Yet their deed’s slow consequences begin as a splinter of Hive Fleet Leviathan penetrates Webway and uncoils towards Commorragh. The Tyranids, it seems, will not be denied their prize.
>>737438845Is GW really that retarded to do so Armless Boy has his moment of "actually he is a competent villa we swear" Of coure they are
>>737438797How could the Hive Fleet get to Commoragh when they can't travel in the warp? I'm worried about the ones the Delder brought in that escaping.
>>737438673Deldar get up to all sorts of wacky anticshttps://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Drukhari#Notable_Events
>>737435021There's no real official art of Sperglord as a daemon prince yet. Everything is fan art.
>>737438992They must have found an open Webway gate and entered through it. Commoragh itself is well-warded, but the Webway overall isn't that impenetrable, demons break through a good amount.
>>737438797>Commoragh will turn into a FFA between DE, slaves, daemons finally breaching and tyranidsCool
>>737439070No, that one piece is official
>>737435663None of their technology actually functions.It's all psychic chicanery.When enough Orks are in a single location their collective consensus of 'how things ought to work' softens and bends the local rules of reality.Yes, it is as broken as it sounds.
>>737439070Nope, that was the very first one, released last monthhttps://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/krrfctul/perturabos-grand-plan-revealed/
>>737439171>>737439108ah Im out of the loop then
>>737439080>An entire subrealm is said to lie abandoned, its pristine towers and halls adorned with beautiful flowers and lit by power bled from an imprisoned C’tan star god driven insane by captivity. What happened to this realm’s residents is a mystery, as is its location, but this has not prevented Drukhari, Aeldari of Craftworld Alaitoc, and even ambitious Necron Overlords from seeking the realm of the chained god. Don't forget the Necrons
>>737439121>Yes, it is as broken as it sounds.It's not as broken as people meme about, you can't give an ork a pipe, call it a gun and have it shoot bullets. They still need guns, those guns still need ammunition, Ork tech just doesn't require much precision, but Meks, Doks and the like do actually know what they're doing most of the time.
>>737434957Also aperentally GW did so he is in werid possition since he is Undivided he has harder time appearing in Realspace because no one Big Playa can push him out. so to quote someone else >The Eye of Terror campaign of 10th Edition would reveal that he has yet another massive plan that he had been working on. Codenamed the Infinite Citadel, his plan involves laying siege on so many fronts that the Imperium would be easily depleted of supplies and his forces would begin crawling their way towards Terra inch by bloody inch. Ideally, the massive number of deaths would satiate the gods enough that the fabric of reality would become so thin that he'd be able to appear in realspace yet again and deal the final blow to the Imperium himself.
>>737438940Now I want Dorn to come back, inexplicably 2 inches bigger than Perty
>human mercenaries in Commoraghdeadly but comfy
>>737439328>Meks, Doks and the like do actually know what they're doing most of the time.This
>>737434957>eldrad immediately accomplishing something worthwhile as soon as he ditches the ynnari retardsbased
>>737432524shouldnt humans with all that gene editing capabilities being as strong per pound or stronger
>>737439384>in 40k, dwarves and elves are on relatively good terms and it's the humans sperging outbased
>>737439528I mean, the average Eldar is portrayed as weaker strength wise than the average space marine, but the average Eldar is bigger than non-space marine humans, so it isn't that we naturally stronger anyway.
>>737439171>mutated iron warriorsdidn't they cut and replace mutated limbs with mech ones since they hate all warp stuff?
>>737439652Sort of?Daemonculaba. Obliterator virus.
If the golden throne keeps the webway active which is what I assume you're using when you warp jump in rogue trader, and the webway is supposed to be safewhy do you get randomly attacked by chaos monsters during a jump?
>>737439652Its always varied, some Iron Warriors eschew Chaos but others embrace it, or use it as a tool. The IW have always been the main legion associated with Obliterators, who are the main technomutant marines
>>737438387The faction most females play/=the faction played mostly by females
>>737430296>YWNBAW and Horace on the same teamPowerful
>OwlkekJust google shit and read
>>737439171Hazard lines are still as sexy as they were to 10 year old me 20 years ago
>>737439751No, the Golden Throne keeps the Emperor alive and also lets him channel the Astronomican. The Astronomican is just a giant psychic lighthouse so warp jumps can be directed. Imperials are still jumping through the warp, not the webwayOnly the Eldar and sometimes Necrons use the Webway for travel. And the Webway isn't necessarily safe either
>>737439384>Human mercenaries in CommoraghDoesn't exist, coomer.Read again, it's mostly Sslyth, Kroots, and Tarrelians/Reptiles of cold-blooded nature, creatures that function on a near animal instinct level that can be corralled into servitude. Humans are too valuable as a siphoning commodity to just have them wander about due to their psychic sensitivity.
>>737439889Oh i see
>>737439751You're confusing the webway and the warp proper. Eldar use the webway which is mostly safe, humans go through the warp itself. Golden throne only functions as a lighthouse to human ships, the webway doesn't rely on it.
>>737439895older editions actually said humans, they've been replaced by the dwarves now
>>737439121oh no i know that part
>>737420630same reason betas go for chinkettes. attainable inferior women.
>>737439392they have old once knowledge at the end of the day they are just too dumb to make it properly so the psychic shit fills in the blanks
>>737439751Imagine the warp as a whole ass dimension that resembles hell, and in that dimension there are a series of tunnels, those tunnels are the webway. E Money's plan was to abandon imperial warp drives and use the webway instead, but that plan failed catastrophically because Magnus did an oopsie. So the imperium has to keep using warp drives that just straight up travel into the hell dimension with only a very small pocket of reality generated around them to protect the ship, though that technology is fickle.Spaceship punches a hole into hell, flies through hell, then punches a hole back out of hell.
>>737439648not sure what you mea with the missing word? i just figure its they should have maxed out muscle allele potential for even baseline human at this point and humans are stockier so it should be a chimp and human scenario even if eldar also have gene editing to their peak phenotype as well
>>737439751If you're talking about the Rogue Trader CRPG...You're getting attacked because your maps of the local warp are shit and your navigator is piloting you into every other disturbance between your origin and destination.As you get control over the sector you receive a resource which you can use to chart out better routes through the warp.Be aware, this only makes travelling to whichever world you are orbiting safer, so spend the resource wisely.
>>737431629>DAOT humanity lived under the shadow of the pre-fall eldar empire.When did GW actually decide to date the fall to M31? I remember it not really being tied to a concrete date and just "long before humanity conquering the stars" which always made much more sense to me. The War in Heaven was 60 million years ago so the Eldar somehow reigned for more or less 60 million years straight? Also humanity ruled most of the galaxy yet also the Eldar empire was still in full swing? It just doesn't add up.
>>737439078>but the Webway overall isn't that impenetrable, demons break through a good amount.Demons are creatures of the warp, of course they break in.Tyrannids are antithetical to the warp, wouldn't it recoil at their attempts to enter?
>>737440705nids have a bunch of anti warp stuff like shadow of the warp and the existence of the hivemind as an entity in it among other shit
>>737440567Their physiology is basically partly warp sorcery that the Old Ones were really good at, so they're strong beyond straight physical capabilities.
>>737440673Fall of the Eldar and the Birth of Slaanesh occurs right before the Great Crusade. In fact, it is the fall of the calming of the warp storms in the galaxy the birth of Slaanesh caused which enabled Emperor to launch his Great Crusade.In the contemporary 40k timeline, the Fall of the Eldar occurred around 10 thousand years in the past. There are still some Eldar around that were alive at that time. Like Eldrad for example we born before the fall of the Eldar though still aboard Craftworld Uthwe as it was launched from the coreworlds of the Eldar. Vect is another Eldar who was around when the fall happened.
>>737440673>Also humanity ruled most of the galaxy yet also the Eldar empire was still in full swing? It just doesn't add up.There is no lore that claims that humans ever ruled most of the galaxy or that humanity during the DAOT was unified political entity. Also, the Eldar dominion over the galaxy was based on their mastery of the webway. They didn't need to have physical presence across wide stretches of space when the webway allowed them to move across the galaxy with ease.
>>737421585>2 big waves this edition alone for Craftworlders, on top of constant releases since 8th>We know that Exodites get Kill Team this year>Followed by a Corsair style expansion year later>Deldar being forgotten is just a meme pushed by GW shills so they can then pretend that GW is listening to playerbase>In fact we know that Deldar get massive refresh/expansion soon after 11th, might be end of the year even, which was even hinted at massively in the codex with many mentions of Haemonculi, Mandrakes and mercenaries>Already heavily shilled in Rogue Trader>In fact, Owlcat's pet shill eceleb who is currently running damage control over admech, already mentioned that companion from 4th dlc is Eldar>Eldar pushed in Dark Heresy again, as well as in TWWbruh
>>737440673>Also humanity ruled most of the galaxy yet also the Eldar empire was still in full swing? It just doesn't add upThe biggest red pill on 40k lore is that humans have always just been nepobabies taken care by more powerful beings, organizations or entities. It's very meta.
>>737441293>There is no lore that claims that humans ever ruled most of the galaxyThere were literally countless human settled planets throughout the galaxy to be reclaimed during the great crusade. Humanity did rule most of the galaxy. The Eldar lost interest in holding huge swathes of territory, they prefered just living on a relative few worlds in their empire's core out of the countless quadrillions in the milky way doing the whole pleasure cult thing.
>>737441405You are replying to the resident eldar hating autistic retard.
