How are they going to ruin it?
unironically its been over 10 years why do games from the same company look worse than games they released between 2014 - 2016?
>>737416168They'll add black fags
>>737416168souls like combat
james kidd trooning out
loot autism
>>737416168It very likely had RPG combat as the reliable leaker from the French magazine which got multiple aspects of this current release correct over a year ago said so.Modern Day was removed so now we're going to have this weird story that hops around unless they've smoothed that out. Particularly the part where Edward gets betrayed by Roberts because the original game transitioned to the Modern Day Sage trying to bring back Juno then dying and then you go back into Edward and he's getting drunk.They're adding in cut content which might have been cut for a reason to make up for what they cut.
>>737416358Oh, and if ship combat is in any way like Origins/Odyssey it's going to be pure and utter ass.
>>737416358I liked the combat of Odyssey speaking only of on land. I thought the Ass creed combat of 1,2,3, Brotherhood e.t.c. were outdated and needed an update. Not sure how an Odyssey style combat would work with Black flag in the towns considering some kills require you to be stealthy and quiet and Odyssey combat is more like the Witcher 3, it's more action rpg focused.Ship combat I don't want them to fuck with it, maybe give a bit more to do but fundamentally they shouldn't change it.
>>737416542Odyssey gameplay is dead and buried thank God. Everyone complained about it and they've been backpedaling ever since. According to those leaks it's going to be on Shadows' engine so it's very likely it has the same combat as it which was much heftier, had a segmented HP bar system so stealth did not require some absurd glass cannon just to assassinate people, and when it comes to equips both Valhalla and Mirage specifically made equips set items and only matter based on their passives while Shadows made Legendary equips the only ones worth caring about so you didn't have to care about the RPG system at all.I'd expect gameplay to be like those three games with a handful of skills and no care for the RPG system outside of number getting bigger and some passives doing some minor lifting.
>>737416168Yes.
>>737416168but rumours are that it's actually good.
CAN I TAKE OFF THE FUCKING BLOWPIPE FFS??
>>737416643>Everyone complainedI liked it so no not everyone complained.
>>737416685no
>>737416992but why? Personally i found it tedious, floaty and repetitive, to the point that I would do anything but engage with the combat system in that game. Am I missing something about it?
>>737416358There better not be any numbers above enemy heads. I fucking swear I'll forget the game right there if I see any of that.
>>737416992You can feel free to like it but the fanbase in general severely disliked Odyssey's mess of forcing the player into a specific playstyle and every game since has been undoing that. Since this is supposed to be old AC I'm expecting more like Mirage so at best the RPG stuff will literally just be minor damage upgrades like in the old games when you upgrade the weapons and unremarkable passive buffs from the RPG games like the ability to do more posture damage when parrying or slightly more damage with more HP.>>737417167Why does Edward look like a corpse here? He looked mostly fine in the other comparison with Ade.
>>737417167I love how it just looks like a hag is talking to some dying man
>catastrophically fumbled their hail mary (asscreed japan) so they have to remake their most popular asscreed game
>>737417717The fanbase in general liked Odyssey's combat and update from the tired formula of Assassin's Creed. It was a fresh take on the genre.
>>737417871Which is why Valhalla, Mirage, and Shadows have all moved away from it heavily. The RPG mechanics are now more or less pointless outside of numbers getting bigger, the Odyssey team themselves realized how garbage Diablo Loot is which is why Shadows' loot is all worthless outside of Legendary equips and almost all the good ones are frontloaded, tools are now back to how they were instead of tied to abilities, abilities themselves are now nerfed into the ground or less flashy, and areas don't level limit you as harshly anymore with Shadows even providing an armor passive that lets you have a 3% chance to chop off an HP bar so even areas 30+ levels higher than you can be gone to at level 2, etc.Everything about Odyssey's combat has been stripped away or made irrelevant and less important with every game that has come after it because of the pushback against it. Odyssey in the fanbase is also considered a black sheep and pointed to as the cause of many issues we've been stuck with today, particularly dialogue choices which are the dumbest thing they could have ever added to a game where you relive memories that have already happened.>>737417808It was already in production with Shadows. It didn't start happening because of Shadows' reception.
>>737418012No one pushed back against Odyssey, it was an enjoyable foray into Ancient Greece, Sparta vs Athens over a large landmass with naval battles to boot. The only controversy surrounding that game was the skin colour of the Greeks and Ubisoft wanting to pick Cassandra as the canon choice for protagonist while the playerbase overwhelming chose Alexios as their protagonist.
>>737416168Well, we already know that character models are ruined, for one.
>>737418103>No one pushed back against OdysseySo you just weren't paying attention to anything during its release or afterward then?https://www.gamesindustry.biz/why-ubisoft-isnt-abandoning-its-open-worldsYves personally had to bring up that you can have a "Unity within an Odyssey" because so many people were pushing back against Odyssey's design decisions and what it stood for in the series. He also had to directly address everyone complaining about how obnoxiously bloated Odyssey's world was with repetitive content.You had tons of people going back to Unity and bringing up all of its positives leading to this entire discussion that couldn't be ignored because people were advocating for a return to classic AC games. That's why Valhalla advertised itself with the ability to instantly kill your targets.https://www.gamespot.com/articles/assassins-creed-valhalla-has-an-instakill-hidden-b/1100-6477167/>"We wanted to look at the old games and see the greatness that those games had and acknowledge what’s great about the updated formula,"That's why Mirage even exists because so many people wanted classic AC back after the major fumbling of both Odyssey and Valhalla.That's why Shadows so heavily focused on stealth and almost all their advertising of features revolved around stealth and assassinating as Naoe. That's also why Shadows literally has a "Canon mode" that removed dialogue choices entirely because it breaks how the Animus works conceptually.
>>737418337Those are clickbait journo rags written by rage bait failed political journos. Funny how that's all you have and if you were there for the release of the game you'd know what I posted in my previous post was correct. Interesting you haven't brought that up once, because you didn't play it.
>>737418529>Those are clickbait journo rags Gameindustry.biz is literally the equivalent of the FT for gaming. It is as impartial as it comes. That discussion is an interview with him about Ubisoft as a whole. The second link is literally just advertising Valhalla prior to release, what is it even clickbaiting? Another thing they also heavily advertised is both MCs being canon (Because of the Kassandra/Alexios drama that people hated) and the return of social stealth (Which wasn't social stealth but still).>because you didn't play it.I've 100%ed every single AC game but the DS ones and currently only need the NG+ golden weapons to 100% Shadows I'm just too lazy to start another 80 hour playthrough. Don't you start this argument.
I love Odyssey but I can not refute the mooseman
Assassins creed is better when the story isnt retarded dribble about apples or pieces of eden and instead an open world fuck around gameOdyssey was a better game than any other classic title because of the amount of shit you can do AC4 was good AC:Rogue was better in every way because it let you skip the retarded 2-4 hour intro and get to the good part of ship combatAC2 still did have the best story of them all i cant deny
>>737416168Wonder if they include Freedom Cry for some points from the modern audience Freedom Cry was good though
>>737418898I hope not but I would like the weapons to be available in the base game
>>737418898>Freedom Cry was good thoughIt was middle of the road. The Experto Crede is the worst ship in the series and obnoxiously weak, it locks the best machete behind a several hour grind when there's nothing to use it on, the machete itself has super long animations even if you're killing enemies with the best one, and slavers do not stop spawning so the main town has you getting ganked every five seconds by them like it's Bloodlines and their guard spawns again.Story was cool though, I liked how Ade reluctantly went back to being a slave just so he could stab the slaver in the throat and basically fell head over heels for the chick who played both sides. Just wish they expanded the story a bit more than they did since it was so short.
>>737418656>Impartial as FT for gaming>FT impartialOh you're a midwit. Then again you are a tripfag. I chose to ignore the warning signs and look where that got me, a faggot who thinks the FT is impartial and trying to argue from a stance of authority. Classic midwit.
>>737419009So you don't even have an argument then.
>>737418869doing gay greek olympics and muh spartan kick you call amount of shit you can do?Ac2 was fine with the intrigue until ezio didnt decide to kill the unredeemable big fat bastard out of revenge
>>737419067I'll remember this the time you said Financial Times is impartial.
>>737417167Isn't he supposed to be a young man here?Do 18-27 year olds just not exist anymore?
>>737419251They're center leaning center-right and basically every bias-test they go through brings up the fact that they're fairly impartial.https://adfontesmedia.com/financial-times-bias-and-reliability/https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/financial-times/https://www.allsides.com/news-source/financial-times-media-biasIf you have some beef with them you do you, my point in saying that is to state that Gameindustry.biz just reports on the news and doesn't really take sides at all. If you can't grasp that I have no idea why you even want to argue.
the best thing about freedom cryhttps://youtu.be/3t3vAxQHY-I
>>737419365>Financial Times are centre rightFirst he says they're impartial now he says they're centre-right. You've already shown you know dick of what you're talking about.
>>737419449Are you just ignoring all the links I'm giving you or something that reiterate exactly what I'm saying?
>>737419515>Trip really is this thick100 IQ is what I'd guess you sit at, you're not intelligent enough to know how much you don't know but you're slightly smarter than the retards and so you think you know more than you really know.
>>737419515>Bias: MiddleFact checked by Snoops.com per chance huh?
>>737419786damn frodo looks weird now
>>737417167Is this supposed to be made in the same engine as Shadows? How does this look like ass and Shadow looked amazing in comparison?
>>737416168idk, maybe it'll run like straight buttcheekshonestly though it was a decent AC game but i can't see myself playing it again. if i want to sail around and do open world shit i would buy windrose
>>737416358>Modern Day was removedObjectively a good thing
>>737416168Female soldiers etcThey can't help themselves
>>737417167The woman actually looks better. Edward looks older and less like Heath Ledger
>no multiplayer>no dlcguess freedom cry is out of it as wellwhat a shitty remake lmao
>>737420140the original had female assassins already
>always online drm>mtx ships>graphics barely a step up from the original and even uglier at some points>rumours say there are new characters and story lines which will be troons, gay or black, possibly all three in multiple characters
>>737420178>Edward looks older and less like Heath Ledgerconsidering the life he leads, that makes sense
>>737420194freedoms cry will probably be added into the main game
>>737416168>sea chanties are mtx >they each cost 500 Ubicoins>you can by 480 Us for five bucks
>>737417167>now featuring appropriate 2013 graphics instead of 2008 graphics!someone explain to me what the point of this is again?
>RPG combat instead of the OG oneno thanks.
>>737420718Ubishit is hoping to bait nostalgic retards out of $70.
>>737416168Having women on the crew and the join in on sea shanties
>>737416392You’re a tasteless faggot.
>>737417167this is just the X360 version compared to the PS4 one jej
>>737422784You enjoyed damage sponges that only got spongier as you played and your entire damage output relied on an energy mechanic that was slow to regenerate? What about both Odyssey taking Origins' ship combat but then couldn't add in the cannon ships that did major damage so you were left with a system that was lacking the actual piece gluing it together with regards to damage?
>>737416168The tomboy pirate better be romancable
>>737416358Modern day was absolutely fucking pointless after Desmond died anyway
>>737423131Alright I do concede regarding that.
i skipped odyssey and mirage pretty much the worst AC games ever made
How can they ruin what is already shit
>FOLLOW THAT GUY>LISTEN IN WHILE TAILING>DONT GET CAUGHT>NOW DO IT IN A BOATrepeat ad infinitum>Edward....im transoh boy im so excitedeyeroll
>>737427773Yea the only part I like is the finishers and boat combat. On replaying it like a year ago I realized that I only remember the good parts, its still an AC game. I wish Windrose a speedy development and that they go into ship management/improve exploration, I want the ship parts of these kinds of games not the fucking gay ass story content about literal trannies and sci fi nonsense.Bring back vehicle combat games already for fuck sake.
>>737427956Im from Florida and love pirates and the Caribbean like a 50 year old carnival cruise boomer, but the missions and gameplay underneath the pirate surface is so bad.I actually enjoyed Rogue more, which was basically the same game but up in New England, but the gameplay and missions were just better.