I wish there was a classic FFXIV server that started in 2.0 and would progress through expansions every year. SE is too retarded to realize their game isn't growing anymore despite the latest census showing the player numbers is back to almost Stormblood levels. I just wanna experience MSQ and content with everyone else instead of being forced to catch up to years of content. Also classes play way differently.Fuck you Yoshi-P.
>>737420347Classic wouldn't work for FFXIV, they'd be better off just doing like a moogle event with an incentive to run coils sync or whatever.
Maybe you should have played it then instead of waiting for your surrogate father to show you the game on twitch.Retard
There's no point because all the content is accessible and can be done anytime unlike in wow. Playing old level50 and level60 kits isn't exciting or worth all this effort. While they were certainly less braindead they had their own issues.
>>737420347Why not a version of the game that goes to 7.0 but keeps all the mechanics from 2.0?
>>737420776Funny how nobody says this about other classic versions of MMOs, the XIV cult is something else man.
2.0 is too complex for modern XIVfags. There's mechanics like interrupts that players never use in modern XIV, healers have to manage cleric stance, tanks aren't immortal, and positionals are much stricter. Classic WoW works because classic WoW is piss easy.
>>737420654>>737421230It's not about doing outdated content in present day, it's about having everyone on the same page again doing that content while it's the "latest", as opposed to having vets who've been playing their character for 11 years and newbies who are forced to catch up to 11 years of content to do anything relevant.
>>737422907tanks had tank stance too
>>7374203472.0 was dogshit and you're retarded for thinking it deserves a server. Nobody wants to grind FATEs in Northern Thanalan for five hours per day.
>>737422907And SP (was it SP? You know the "physical" resource). New players will ran away before dealing with it
>>737424469It was TP, and using sprint ate all your TP so melee players lost all their damage if they used it.
>>737424450Then stay in your retail server, bitchnigger.
Nah we need 1.0 first as pre-launch event kinda deal
>>737424469TP was just fucking stupid and very poorly thought out in general. You can't play the "hurr durr git gud" card when certain jobs literally did not function in prolonged fights unless they were specifically babysat due to TP starvation.
>>737424627I played 1.0 back in the day but I didn't stick around, so I wouldn't mind playing 1.0 and experiencing the Calamity shit. I feel like that's way more unlikely than a 2.0 server though.
>>737422683because most mmo's that have classic versions are already old as fuck it's pretty much never going to be a thing for any mmo that came out after like 2013
>>737424665It is never happening, but it'd be fun to experience. I only played 2.0
>>737424352It really changes nothing, other than loading 100 people within 6ft of you and the market board.
>Pacification in 5s Esuna/Leeches plz>i used an AOE skill and now i'm out of TP>healing in cleric stance>you're a BRD? sorry your damage is nerfed because there's no DRG in the party
>>737424719It changes everything because you only need to do 50 levels of content instead of 100.
Would rather have a 1.0-1.23 server
>>737424837Kinda wild how it never got emulated.
that tfw you used flash/ruin 2 right before mountain buster to dodge it and no one noticed
>>737424837
>>737424837I would kill to have that menu/UI back, honestly that would make me resub alone.Funny how 1.0 graphics STILL look better than what they have today even after the "graphic update"
>>737424721Dealing with Clerics made healing a man's job in 14.I miss it so fucking much.>>737424837>>737424627No, you don't want that.
>>737420347Nightmare.>>737420654I always felt they should at least make a normal mode of Coils so it can be run like you can run any normal raid nowadays for the story without having to be boosted through it / wait until level 90 to solo it yourself.But they probably don't consider it worth the development time and money.
>everyone completely forgot that Meteor started off as an Archer, not a Warrior>he also had a greatsword in 1.0, 2 expansions before Dark Knight
>>737425071>Nightmare.Yoshi-P referred to 1.0 not 2.0, dumbass.
>>737425001Nah I DO want that. It's why I specified it'd only be a pre-launch event sorta deal that wouldn't last for very long (maybe a month?) It'd be funny to see all the improvements and things they did worse
>>737424352>vets who've been playing their character for 11 years and newbies who are forced to catch up to 11 years of content to do anything relevant."relevant" is what you make of it.so little of xiv is gatekept by gear that pretending you need to do dawntrail specific content for it to be "relevant" is more an issue of the mind than it is a real issue
>>737425071No point in normal mode coil when level sync is an option at this point and people can just blast through it with like 700+ ilvl over what it was designed for solo or duo if they want the story. At this point, it's just a relic of old design and they keep it like a badge of honor as well as what not to do, since it would be considered too complex for the average modern player
I unironically liked some of the old things they removed. Like having to level certain classes at least to lvl15 to unlock more advanced jobs
>>737425137No, you don't. The mere fact you're trying to say you do tells me you never played 1.0.Because if you did, you'd want nothing to do with that bullshit.
>>737425081I didn't. When I make my Meteor alt (when they've finished updating graphics) and replay the story, I'll start as an Archer, level to 30, switch to Marauder, never ge the Bard job stone and then go from there.(No, I won't take Archer into any duty finder content after getting Marauder in case you expect "no job stone griefing".
>>737425241Ofcourse I never played it, that's the entire point. It'd be really funny to see just how bad it was. People are even interested in alpha versions of world of warcraft anon
>>737425173The point here isn't doing outdated content in present day, dumbfuck.
>>737425241>t. started with EWYour opinion is irrelevant
>>737425325There is no "outdated content in present day"You think it's outdated because you have endgame brainrot.
>>737425303>I want to play it le ironically XD you have to go back
>>737422907I miss cleric stance and old sch so much. the game used to be so fun now healers literally have a 1 button dps rotation
What's the deal with Project Sapphire? I thought it was a HW server in the works, but it's just some retarded "understanding how game servers work" kind of deal and nothing works?
>>737425518Nobody who plays XIV has the balls to risk a c&d from SE
>>737425001>Dealing with Clerics made healing a man's job in 14.Tank stance was the same, you had to actually choose between holding threat and dealing more damage and it made the skill cap infinitely higher.
>still no chicken codeyeah I think this is the straw that breaks the camels back like actually fuck square enix im not buying ff7r3 anymore
>>737421230Having contemporary class kits would be the biggest draw because as they are right now jobs don't feel complete until 70 or so, with Coils as the biggest offenders - those few buttons you have do fuck all. But it is a stupid idea, yeah.
>>737425674>press one button>skill
stance dancing sounds annoying and clunky
>>737425692Blame Yoshi-PThe A-Team over on the real FF games had nothing to do with his jewery
>>737425893>using more than 2 braincells and actually making a decision instead of just pressing the same sequence of buttons in the same order until your netflix show goes to commercial is """""""clunky"""""""""Zoomers never gonna make it once the government cuts off their neetbux
>>737426032Peak "it's more than what I do now so it's good" brain.But yeah, clunky.
>>737426053Define "clunky"
>>737420347>I wish there was a classic FFXIV server that started in 2.0no you don'tthere was zero content outside of leveling, coil, weekly tomestone capthey would need to have potd, beast tribes, etc in at launch for it not to be a snorefest
>>737426032I reality it was do your opener in tank stance, and then stay in DPS stance 9(% of the time unless you really needed the extra mit (warrior didn't because lol holm on 3 min CD)
member when ff7 was 14's "break glass in case of emergency"and now 14 is 7's "break glass in case of emergency"
>>737426149Yes, I do. Stay in your retail server.
>>737424637TP was fine if you had a BRD with a brainsadly making your gameplay reliant on others has never worked out for mmos
>>737424837Looks more immersive than what current FF14 has turned into.
>>737426138Probably your attempt to win an argument by telling people to supply definitions for commonplace words.You sound like one of those retards who goes "define woke" to try and win the debate epic reddit style when someone calls something wokeslop.
>>737425001>No you don't want thatYes I do, I want it over modern FF14. I'm telling you yes I want that.
>>737426253Damn that catgirl is hot though
>>737426296It's okay to admit you want old job design without asking for all the retarded decisions of 2.0 anon
>>737425379Nope, started with ARR and spoke regularly with people who DID have the misfortune of playing 1.0. None of them want it back and at best considered it to maybe have started to become a functional game by the very end.>>737425674Meanwhile the average player today can't even rememeber to turn it on at the start of a dungeon and it's like a 50% chance in an alliance or raid that tanks will aggro battle for no reason.
>>737426253Yeah, I really do hate when they added that mandatory real life cam for all party members on the side of the screen in that one game update a little while ago. What were they thinking.
>>737420347This but 4.0.
>>7374264076.1 onwards is where the current game has made so many retarded decisions that they are now more egregious in design than 1.x. (Not sure why you said 2.0 maybe a mistake on your part?)
>>737424450I do.
>>737426473>6.1 onwards is where the current game has made so many retarded decisions that they are now more egregious in design than 1.x.lollmaothe larp is hilarious
>>737426436>Look Mom I'm deliberately missing the point!
>>737426262So you can't tell me what it is?
Yoshi-P has Peter Pan syndrome. Step down old man.
>>737424450>grinding fates, dawntrail:|>grinding fates, a realm reborn:OOOOOOOOOO
>>737426149>There was zero content outside of [things that are going to take a lot of time]Uh huh.>>737425893In modern ff14 where they desparately want it to be an action game and have gone stupid hard into appealing to raiders? Sure. But back in ARR/HW it worked perfectly.
>>737426564>anything at all, dawntrail>:|Yes.
>>737426524You need to make a point for a point to be missed.Your point is "i hate trannies". It had nothing to do with either of the versions of the game.
>>737420347>>737422683Other MMOs have "classic" versions because they literally remove content with new expansions.Almost nobody would play a classic FF14 because you can just activate New Game Plus and play the game from the start IN the current version, or make a new character.Jobs have changed a lot and are worse now than in the past, but job design was shit in ARR too and only started getting good in Heavensward, peaking in Stormblood.Most of the stuff that WAS removed or you can't really replicate in the current version was just horrible trash design like endless fetch quests in the MSQ and having to manually return to the Waking Sands between each one, and some more complex or obtuse mechanics in dungeons. There's also been a lot of stat creep, but the concept of fighting earlier bosses at their original strength is already delivered on with Unreal trials.
They will most likely botch 8.0 because they're retarded, then they'll be basically forced to do classic servers.
>>737426612>Your point is "I hate trannies" No that wasn't my ONLY point.
>ma crying about wok lamutt is no longer getting me (you)s i have to be a contrarian who pretends that 1.0 wasnt a fundamentally broken piece of garbage to get attention nowNature is healing.
Do you think FF14 will get a private server like Horizon when it finally does enter maintenance mode?
>>737425295I wish we still have actual cutscenes like this and not the same "pan to clenching fist" done a googolplex times in the span of 15 minutes.
>>737426654It really was.Anyway, if they brought 1.0 back this year, you'd see plenty of trannies stream it on twitch, just as plenty of trannies play XI.Luckily for you, that'll never happen, so you can go "nuh uh nuh uh nuh uh" and plug your ears.
>>737426564>spiritbonding without destroying the gear>leveling chocobos>forlorn maidens>bicolor gemstones>shared fate levels>jobs being able to aoe for longer than 30 secondsyeah
>>737426614>OP asks for classic because he wants everyone to be on the same page content wise>"Just play NG+ bro"Back to /r/ffxivdiscussion with you.
>>737426564>DT fates are mindnumbing mash AoE shitfests with no danger>ARR fates could hit like trucks or actually overwhelm objectives if people brained off too hardSo, yes, that is correct.
>>737420347If you want to have fun just play pvp
>>737426703>I wish we still have actual cutscenesWish granted.
>>737426564ARR fates have soul. There's all sorts of chain fates and bigger boss fights etc, this does happen to a certain extent in HW too I think
I wish people were there. ARR community was significantly better it's not even funny. Fate trains always had fun discussion and banter. Now it's filled with facebook moms and reddit jokes. ShB was literally the beginning to the end lol.
>>737426850Before I quit for good, PVP was the only reason I stayed subbed as long as I did. It was the only entertaining content at all after soloing DD
>>737424748Does this take into account people moving from the servers that are monitored by Bancho to the Korean or Chinese servers now that they have parity with the rest of the world?
>>737426795As a new player you'll never get to be on the same page until you catch up with the live version regardless, because most people playing classic would still have done all the content before.
>>737426661You can really tell FanFest is close.
>>737426880I never did get to finish that fucking Behemoth fate in Coerthas...
>>737426726Apparently you can read minds but poorly. If only you asked me for what my point was before injecting your prejudices onto me. You racist.
>>737426927>anyone willingly moving to Korean or Chinese farmbot cheat serverslmao
They should do 2.0 Classic just to make all the morons shut up who think it would be good. As someone important once said, you think you do, but you don't.
>>737426850I already got crystal rank once, boring que dodgers and pre-mades have filled the ques since season 2 of CC. Frontlines are alright >>737426958I missed one or two of those chains too, can't remember which ones sadly
>>737426905It was not. I've played since ARR and the FF14 community has always been retarded, the only way it changed was cheaters becoming more common after the WoW influx.You think it was better because you were also retarded and obnoxious at the time and probably still are.
>>737427019Why would they do an ARR classic when people aren't asking for that?
>>737426992The dev team clearly wants to make some kind of Persona setting, but they were stuck on the stinky fantasy trope game so they had to change it
>>737427041Nah. You're misremembering. They can't be spamming LAHEEEEEEEEEEE 24/7 because it hasn't been created yet. I remember actually doing stuff with my FC, I remember AV skips. There was a lot of actual social stuff you had to do with other people.
>>737426992Yes, your image is very cute.
>>737427000I've never heard anything like that. What is your evidence?
>>737427019They won't do it because they know it would be more popular than retail and embarrass them.
>>737427134Is this your first MMO?
>>737427085Yoshida keeps mentioning One Piece even in his latest interviews, Dawntrail was meant to be his new One Piece arc with Wuk Lamat as Luffy. That failed but he hasn't given up.
>>737427138This. Retail XIV feels as soulless as WoW did after Cata now. I also don't like how heavily they leaned into the sci-fi shit in EW. Lemme go back to cozy high fantasy + Asian shit with bits of sci-fi instead.
Feels good to not have turned social interaction in xiv into a boogeymanCan just chill and chat with people during content
>>737427245If you can stand "chatting" with those subhumanoids then you're as dumb as they are.
>>737427245I had a really cool interaction with a duskwight DRG in holminster DF the other day, was nice to see her tryharding when normally DF people don't give a shit
>>737427000He's making it up, no one is moving to the Korean or Chinese servers from JP, NA or EU.
>>737427121You were just as obnoxious. Social stuff is a negative when the playerbase is obnoxious + retarded, which it was. All MMO playerbases are, because few well-adjusted and intelligent people spend their time playing games that are designed to waste your time.
>>737426905>Go into a map>See people everywhere either questing, grinding fates for levels or relic, or generally hanging out in an outpost they like waiting for others for something or anotherHelps that maps were more contained, something flight ruined. Nowadays:>Maps are empty>Everyone standing in one of the two current expansion cities or back in an ARR city afk>Maybe you'll see some people near the beast tribe daily npcs>Maps are also boring, uninteresting blobs
>>737426992>Garlemald power suits good>Alexandrian power suits bad (they use magic rock)>Allagan power suits great (they use magic rock)There's a living allagan slut right now inhabiting a catgirl nerd's body and forcing her to spread her legs hourly
>>737427394One fits the aesthetic and lore of the settingThe other doesn't.Simple as.
If they don't wanna give us classic servers, they should at least make MSQ optional and let us group up and feel like we're actually playing an MMO from the get go, instead of the subpar pseudo-MMORPG experience you currently need to go to until you finish DT.
>>737427437Both fit the lore and the setting.It's that simple
>>737427394As the other anon pointed out it was consistent with the lore, the setting and aesthetic of the game. Garleans can't use magic so they use magitek as a power scaler. It's really interesting when you play through the game and come to understand that these guys with all their tech are in fact terrified of the Eorzeans and how strong they are, how they can use magic. Latest expansion with Dawntrail has nothing like that, it even has that retard Zoraal Ja talk about how the Garlean Empire was an Empire of simpletons why the fucker dies from gooning too much.
>>737427382I wish I could experience that. It's so depressing going into places like Ishgard now and seeing them completely deserted except maybe 2-3 people near the aetheryte. Like where's the fun in that.
>>737427303>normally DF people don't give a shitIn a dungeon? No reason to.
>>737427332naw bro you're projecting >>737427382Yeah, you'll always have people to talk to everywhere. fuck now no one even says hi in dungeons anymore and when they do talk it's all just>OH MY GOD HE'S HAWTTTTTTTTTT>PET THE LALA PET THE LALA AWWW SO CUTE LALLALALLA>BEEF TACOS LOL XD BEEF TACOS BEEF TACOS BEEEEEF>I WANT 2B TO SIT ON ME (we know he doesn't he just wants the attention from alliance)
>>737427672fun?
>>737427281I too hate social interaction, anon.>>737427303Interactions can maybe be hardest in dungeons due to the fact they're over so quickly. Still, you can occasionally strike up a conversation. IME DDs are among the best ways to chat with people while doing content.Even putting the memes aside, Hunt trains are too chaotic anyway.
>>737427394>gets hooked by age old b8
>>737426564All of which is no problem since there are plugins now to automate Fates.
>>737425237>too complex9 of the 12 bosses are about as complex as dungeon bosses or normal trials by modern standards. and the other ones would mostly just need updated visual tells
>>737420347Just play New Game Plus if you want to replay the classics so much. And there's about 50 hours left until FFXIV Fan Fest.
>>737420776>>737421230This. FFXIV is by far the world’s best, most popular and most influential MMO ever made with over 30 million players and tons of permanently evergreen content. You can run Sastasha just like it was in 2013, RIGHT NOW. Try that in WoW. Yep, thought so. We are NOT going back to WoW especially since the jailer got the sigils in Shadowlands. And remember all the scandals? No thanks! WoW is dead. Based! This but unironically. Take that, Bobby Kotick.
>Estinien on the poster despite appearing nowhere in the screenshots and footage we've seen so farI bet he's going to show up as a surprise during the Enuo fight or something
>>737420347>I just wanna experience MSQ and content with everyone else How, when the game constantly funnels you into solo instances by design?
>>737424352>their character for 11 years and newbies who are forced to catch up to 11 years of content to do anything relevant.Casuals and sweats are never going to play together. After a week the sweats will be a year ahead of the casuals
>>737428667>he's still mad
>the shadowbab freaks out at the concept of having to play an mmo instead of his instanced lobby and discord ERP simulator
>>737428538Even if they're less complex than some fights nowadays (most dungeon bosses still aren't more complex) they're still drastically more punishing via the sheer damage output.Just the way the autos alone work would filter the average tank and healer nowadays, but when failing a mechanic will likely kill the player targeted and their partner for something like a tether? It's not that nonsense vuln stack shit where you can often slip up once or a failure is a wipe where you can often hide who's at fault in a less organized party.
muh endgamebrain is ruining the game
would wow allow...this?!
>>737429367They can probably just redesign the fights to be similar to what they were, but with a modern approach.With just a minor bite of bite.
>>737426876Cool. *skips*
>>737429367numbers would have to be tweaked yes. but i only recall twintania, kaliya and bahamut himself having dangerous autos
>>737429461Bosses used to be able to crit sis.
>Story's a 6/10 at most>Characters are dull>Music is good when they're not repeating that one trackThe only reason i'm still playing this game is to be a self insert fantasy hero.Dawntrail hurt that fantasy severely but hopefully they get back to it,
>>737429495if you're just going to keep trying to 'win' this discussion we can go back to shitposting
>>737429614>How dare you disagree with me>Stop posting facts, it isn't fair
>>737429558We're about to embark on Zero's hero journey as her trusted sidekick soon.
>>737429689Based. Hope she cucks Gaia.
>>737429675alright, we'll just wait for the americans to wake up so we can have an actual conversation. enjoy your wow shitposts
>>737428658That doesnt rollback the mechanics to their superior versions
>>737429614You tend to just be better off ignoring the passive aggressive weirdos. That's a good rule of thumb on here, and anywhere.
>>737429790its a shame too. rebalancing coils would be an absolute win but he feels the need to whip his dick out
>>737429957Didn't the mobile version of the game do that?Not that I'm gonna praise that Chinese gachaslop, but I think that's something that they could have done well.
>>737429732Americans are awake. We’re otw the fanfest. Got my mandated goybrick on this flight.
>>737430107Otw to fanfest*. I’m nodding off.
>>737430107neat. i actually had the time and money to go but didn't get a pair of tickets. hope you have fun
>>737429558>Story's a 6/10 at mostIt's a 6/10 overall.ARR 7/10HW 8/10SB 8/10 ShB 9/10EW 6/10DT 1/10
>>737429721Hope so. I'll then swoop in and teach Gaia the pleasure of a woman.
>>737429429>RedesignAfter seeing the redesigned AV I have zero faith in them redesigning anything.>>737429461Sad thing is, they're already the easiest they've ever been thanks to how poorly the debloat they did for anything prior to SB. There's a reason we don't see half the mechanics in ST anymore after all.
>>737430450this wouldn't be replacing regular coilsjust making a story mode
>>737430450they do need to do a once over on the numbers for most the MSQ. shinryu, hades are especially egregious. thordan was kinda always a curbstomp even on release. Crystal Tower could use it too, though i don't know how popular that would be. they'd have to do something to make alliance roulette less painful. maybe take the 1.5 minute walks to the trash out
>the game isn't growing anymore so it should endlessly wallow in its own nostalgia like a Certain Other World of Warcraft
Deep dungeon has probably been the most social content for me in DT.
>>737422005We'd find pretty quickly why people cheered when Accuracy was removed and why elemental resistance materia was removed (it did fuck-all)Though we'd also see a regression in materia meta to pumping as much main-stat as possible and *then* pumping crit, instead of just pumping crit and then dhit
>>737431232What else is there to do besides getting bored in shit dungeons
>>737431275i do not miss hit rating. i played bard in ARR and it still irked me, despite me being the one least effected by it
>>737431275Elemental resistance worked, but you had to go hard into it for any noticeable affect.
>>737430242>ShB 9/10Stopped reading there
>>737431419Yeah, I hate when my RPGs have RPG elements in them too. Thank god they fixed that problem with FF16.
>>737430242Those ratings are pretty good, I'd probably lower HW to 7 or 6 even if that's an unpopular opinion. Base EW could go up to 7 or even 8 on a good day honestly, the post EW story is so bad I think 6 is fair though.
>>737431605A little too eager to chug the "RPG elements" chode there
>>737431635I have a lot of problems with EW, whenever I discuss it with people I always say it has the highest highs and the lowest lows (before DT, of course, which has some of the most absurd off-screen or blatant plothole bullshit)
>>737431682Guy really wants attention.
i felt a bit weepy when hydaelyn died
>>737431698Yeah I might be too generous on it if anything. It's one of those stories that would get more retarded on a re-play
>>737431854i didn't care because it was not a scion
>>737431854>can call her by her real name and make her cry
>>737431635post-ShB story isn't all that great either.It's just 5.2 and 5.3.The fucking Allagan hackerman flying pig shit is awful.
>>737420347You're an idiot. 2.0 sucked the sweat off a dead man's balls.
>>737432054A FFXIV Classic would probably go how everybody expects it to; the game linearly changed a lot over time but a lot of dumb shit got ironed out over the years too. Accuracy alone would melt modern players' faces off, let alone Bard getting forcefemmed into a bow-mage just because Machinist was a gun-mage and they thought Bard needed to follow suit
>>737432292i like extracting materia in arr
>>737420347temporary XIV Leagues like OSRS does would be cool
>zoomer joins a boomer raid group>boomers laugh and joke about warrior backshots>zoomer doesn't understand>zoomer wants in on the joke>PLEASE WASTE MONEY ON MAKING A VERSION OF THE GAME NOBODY WANTS TO PLAY SO I CAN FEEL INCLUDED
>>737427580Garleans aren't fucking new to people with magic, they stomped all over the people of Ilsabard and Othard who also have magic.
>>737424627>to play 2.0 classic you need to suffer through the 1.0 updates first into "Legacy" 2.0's launch
>>737424912Because it changed drastically twice during its lifespan after YoshiP took over, and most of the research was on its original inception, which was still not thorough.Eg. Good luck finding the stat growth formulae for all of the races for 1.16 and beyond. No one bothered recording it.
>>737432668FFXIV itself is confused on this point, magic works elsewhere in the world and canonically has to have worked pretty well outside of Eorzea but Eorzea is stated to be the wellspring of all magic and the place where it's at its highest efficacy, and then there's some Garlean mount descriptions that say they hadn't encountered a Thunder spell ever until Eorzea and had to make gilded walkers just to cope with electric attacks
It's honestly amazing how this game only got worse as time went on.It's developing in reverse.
>>737424837soul kino overloadwe need to go back
>>737432054Then don't play it, fucktard. Doesn't mean others won't.
>>737424837The World Of Ultimate Gaming ass screenshot
>>737432668I didn't say they were new to people with Magic but that doesn't mean they still weren't afraid of magic users and the closer to Eorzea you are the stronger to the source of magic you are. Eorzea is the most magic aspected continent on the entire planet, with the strongest magic users.
>>737432946>1.16What? We're talking about 2.0 here.
>>737426564>he doesn't remember the fate trains that would run up and down Cortheas and Northern Thanalan
I quit after beating TOP. Did Dawntrail finally make the Ascians take a backseat, or are they still pulling the strings for the main plot? You dealt with the main ones in Endwalker, but there was still that group of other dudes who didn't care what the higher ups were doing.
>>737433040>>737433171Eorzea has Silvertear but that's basically it, magic works the exact same everywhere in the setting.
>>737433336DD is up
>>737420347You think you do, but you don't.
>>737433378It's probably like that now because "Eorzea is the most magical Harry Potter place on the planet" is incredibly limiting to the setting, FF16 would later reprise the same plot point and would contribute to the fact that basically nothing that happens on Valisthea is important to the rest of the *planet*
>>737424837Its funny to me that despite the graphics rework, 1.0 still had superior lighting and materials.
>>737433373there's a (single) Ascian who seems to have the most recent new villain on a leash. but whether she's antagonistic or not is unknown
>>737433373Fandaniel's group of offshoots is both incredibly half baked and now dead, currently we are looking at Halmarut's goings-on
>>737433327Maybe check up the reply chain a little more.
>>737433469Until you realize it was all pre-baked lighting that only works in specific ways.
>>737433378>Eorzea has Silvertear the most concentrated source of Aether on all the planet but that's basically it.>What is Aether?Aether is the fundamental life energy and magical energy of the world. It flows through living beings, the land, and the planet itself. Magic in FFXIV is essentially the manipulation of aether—whether drawing from one's own internal reserves, borrowing from the environment, or using external sources like crystals or elementals. Higher concentrations of ambient (environmental) aether make it far easier and more potent to cast spells, summon entities, or perform advanced arts.Why Eorzea Specifically?Eorzea has a much denser concentration of aether than most other regions of the world. This makes magic more accessible, powerful, and commonplace there compared to places like the Garlean Empire (where many people have low or no personal aether affinity and rely on magitek technology instead) or distant lands with thinner aether flows. The key reason for this density is Lake Silvertear (also called Silvertear Falls or the "fount of all aether"). It serves as the nexus or central reservoir of aether for the entire planet. Aether flows from this point outward, enriching the surrounding lands of Eorzea (including areas like the Black Shroud, Thanalan, and La Noscea). This creates:Abundant aether crystals (visible as massive crystal formations in many zones), which act as concentrated batteries of elemental energy.Stronger elemental influences and easier access to ambient aether for casters.A vibrant environment where magic thrives naturally, supporting guilds like the Conjurers' Guild (Gridania), Thaumaturges' Guild (Ul'dah), and Arcanists' Guild (Limsa Lominsa). Lore sources often describe Eorzea as "sacred" or uniquely rich in this energy, drawing people, monsters, and adventurers alike because of the "wide and deep" currents of aether and "rich veins of power-infused crystal.
1.0 was better
Will we finally meet the West wolves in 7.5 MSQ?
>>737433494She's gonna die. Yoshida can't afford to have this va long term.
>>737433469It's simply the materials. The lighting in it is rather basic, to the point there's no environment shadows. It's just player shadows that take a singular light source (generally the sun's relative position), and extremely low-rez baked AO/shadowmaps for props in the environment, and certain interiors. Game doesn't even have PBR. It just brute-forces it with two materials per mesh as needed if there's a need to mix say, leather & metal. Still better than ARR being unable to do that even after the Dawntrail upgrades.
>>737433664You need to understand the context of the conversation here. The point is that the people of the rest of the planet STILL have magic and can use magic just as well and in the same way as Eorzeans. Silvertear being really special and cool doesn't change that fact, the point is that Eorzeans as a (collection of) people(s) don't have more or greater magic than everyone else, the land itself is just more magically active and valuable.
>>737433469https://youtu.be/CJ9CmxaQ3q8?t=464
>>737433715She's fineIt's the chipmunk doll that could be an issue
>>737433723Another thing I find funny is that the materials they showed at fanfest were significantly larger in resolution compared to what actually shipped.Dont know what drove them to compress them as much as they did but at some point I wonder if the graphics overhaul was even worth it.
>>737433929it's weird that he got two voice actors
>>737433664>compared to places like the Garlean Empire (where many people have low or no personal aether affinity and rely on magitek technology instead)You can tell this is old lore/retconned because in the current lore Garleans just genetically can't cast magic. They're not incapable of it because "magic is thinner in Garlemald," they're a separate non-human race that can't handle magic. In fact they got bullied by their neighbors in Ilsabard because those neighbors had magic and these were a bunch of magicless frozen peasants before they got magitek. We go to parts of Othard and Ilsabard and fucking Tural and everyone there has magic but the Garleans.
>>737433972>I wonder if the graphics overhaul was even worth it.It was.Even beyond updating old stuff, the graphical overhaul also paved the way for newer content looking way better than anything before it in terms of visuals.>But it's DT it's badThat's not the point. That will come in handy for expansions that people actually like as well.
>>737433990It's his jp va that's going to bankrupt squeenix.
They will never do classic XIV. Not because its actually hard to do, but because Yoshida knows it will have people saying how much better it was and how they need to overhaul the main game to return to its roots.
>>737433998>where many people have low or no personal aether affinity and rely on magitek technology instead)>. They're not incapable of it because "magic is thinner in Garlemald," they're a separate non-human race that can't handle magicLiterally it is saying the same thing. You people are so contrarian on here you just want to be the only one that is right.
>>737433469This, even my most anti-modding of friends still ended up using some sort of lighting tweak or filter for the game, it looks so damn washed out
>>737434081Who's his JP va?
>>737434081voice acting is a mistake
>>737434081Yaoi gets passed around every gacha game in Japan, Korea, and China like a cheap hooker I don't think her rates are that high
>>737433832Damn now I remember that 1.0 used to have unique animations in cutscenes
>>737434145The old lore presented it as a product of aether being thinner in Garlemald which meant people couldn't cast or develop an affinity. In the lore since SB at the latest, it's a product of Garleans literally being genetically incapable of casting magic and other races, even from Ilsabard, in Garlemald can use magic just fine.
>>737434170Are you one of those retards who thinks voice acting doesn't matter when it's story based?
>>737434145garleans literally cannot use magic under any circumstances is not the same thing as magic not working as well in the garlean home-turf
>anamnesis no longer lets me change weaponsliterally fucking why
>>737434253all less than 20 of them with actual mocap? with a good portion being locked to your starting zone?
>>737420347The japanese would never do something like classic. It goes against the law of mono no aware.
>>737420347>FFXIV classicfagsgrim
>>737434253Very very infrequently even within 1.0, people circlejerk around the same six or so cutscenes because that's almost everything with mo-cap work or unique animations. Majority of 1.0 cutscenes were the same *nod* *punches palm* stuff as modern XIV but with better cinematography and camera work, which XIV is also catching up with courtesy of Hildebrand letting them try out dumb stuff and learn how to actually compose a cutscene
>>737434260https://youtu.be/RRoP_u_1SpM?t=8
>>737434165aoi yuki>>737434196probably yeah. it's a common joke about famous ones but i think va in general doesn't get paid that well.
>I wish there was a classic FFXIV serverthere is
>>737434278There is an exploit you can do with glamourer/anamesis where you enter a state without a weapon, something impossible in the game normally.In that state your character would skip all animations played and allow you to craft/gather faster.
>>737434357>mobile postereven more grim
>>737434360I am expecting way more WoL jerkoff cutscenes with custom animations in 8.0 as an apology for Wuktrail
>>737434360Not a 1.0fag so I didn't know myself but I recently watched a compilation of 1.0 cutscenes and I saw plenty of basic emotes in them too. Mocapped scenes, sure. But 1.0 was far from mocap paradise. More cutscenes with basic animations than not.>which XIV is also catching up with courtesy of Hildebrand letting them try out dumb stuff and learn how to actually compose a cutsceneAnd the updates to the graphical engine. We got actual depth of field in 7.2 or 7.3 alongside a host of other stuff. DT may not be well liked, but from 7.2 onward, animation and cinematography improved a lot.Even the part where the WoL and Scions summarize the 'story up until now' for Sphene isn't just "fade to black and then fade into Sphene saying 'I get it now'." Which is how they usually did that,
>>737434448Wow. That's fucking annoying!
>>737433972>were significantly larger in resolution compared to what actually shipped.Probably VRAM concerns on the PS4 end, and they REALLY are against any particular platform having a visual advantage over the other than isn't framerate/resolution. Granted it also simplifies their pipeline not having to juggle sets of texture assets (PS4/toasters + current-gen), especially in a game that's already 80gb+.
>>737420347Why not just start a new character and progress through the expansions every year yourself?And if that sounds dumb... well it is but that is your idea in a nutsack.
>>737434581>More cutscenes with basic animations than not.Only real difference is the basic cutscenes had cinematography still, and playing proper canned animations that'll turn/move the character around, vs. ARR just spinning models in place and then Point A->B walk paths via LUA scripts of all fucking things.
>>737434670Might be an even bigger graphics update if they do something like drop PS4 support in the near future; hell, waiting for that might even be why they've been so judiciously careful with what gets updated and why so little has gotten updated
Cross Skills....sovl....
>>737434703>OP wants everyone to progress through expansions at the same time>"Just start a new character and play alone"You're incredibly stupid.
>>737434772casting stoneskin during downtime...
>>737434772It was a very interesting system but I felt you always had kinda "mandatory" picks, they should've fleshed this system up more instead of giving up on it
>>737434703Because newgame+ or even a new character cant bring back Miner Tataru.
>>737434817>the world should suffer because I was too sloweat a fat dick faggot
>>737434751Surely after YoshiP basically implied DT is the last expansion that supports PS4, they'll actually drop it this time.
>>737434909Rough sex with Tataru in her miner outfit
>>737434360Speaking of Cinematography, why do the world, objects, and buildings all feel like they're way too big vs the size of the characters after 1.x? I've always wondered that even since ARR beta.
>>737434910Then don't play it, you dumb homosexual.
>>737434943don't expect much difference, they are adding Switch 2 support after all, which is not a very powerful console
>>737434885I honestly think it could come back now rather easily now that they design jobs to actually function on their own.
>>737434751>>737434943If they seriously want to target a potential Switch 2 release, they may as well keep supporting PS4 at that point, even though Switch 2 has 4gb more RAM to play with between CPU/GPU.
>>737435059Switch 2 has a substantially higher game-useable RAM pool than PS4 which is the main limiting factor gone.
>>737435178It's less they don't want to support PS4 anymore and more they might be forced to drop the system for performance and resource reasons.
i miss the old dayshttps://youtu.be/YknrH0Ws8Es
>>737435652Banger.
>>737435652>ShB>Old days??
>>737435878shadowbringers was 7 years ago. and its been longer since shadowbringers than ARR to shadowbringers
People say 2.0 playerbase wasn't full of weirdos btw.https://youtu.be/BCUvx2BExZI
>>737435878>>737435931>its been longer since shadowbringers than ARR to shadowbringers>>737435948now there's a golden oldie
>>737435948
>>737435948erm ackchually it was le sovl then
>most hyped up piece of content in the game's history>no one even talks about it anymore
When was Fanfest again>>737436337People sold themselves on it being Animal Crossing when nothing pointed to that at all
2.0 is fundamentally the same game as 7.0 just with less shit to do. classic for XIV is pointless unless they are willing to re-release 1.0
>>737436337I played this interact slop for 45 minutes before never going back to that island again. I genuinely spend more time in FFXI's mog garden than in that and I only played XI for a single month.
>>737436337Farming sims were being shit out at the time so everyone thought they were gonna try something like that for the game.
>>737434670Please look forward to the Switch 2 port
>>737436337Spreadsheet Sanctuary still funds my Hi Cordials and some of my crafter/gatherer materia needs even though I haven't touched it since DT launch.
>>737436337There aren't even horses in the final product.
>>737436375This Friday at 10 AM PDT
>>737434364>voice acting is a mistakeYou didn't specify you generalised. You need to learn how to read you dumb cunt.
>>737436701>working that dayFUCK
>>737433813Eorzea isn't the ONLY dense source of Aether.The Azim Steppe and the surrounding areas are also dense AF in Aether because the Allagans were siphoning it from the area that turned into The Burn to fuel their space ship launches from the Dawn Throne (where they launched Dalamud into space)There's also PERSONAL Aether. The WoL is unusually dense due to their Ancient heritage and being 6-7 times rejoined. The conjurer's guild quest makes a big deal out of using magic through ambient aether vs personal aether because 90% of the population has very thin aether and can't manage more than a few simple spells per day.The WoL being able to use Aetherytes to teleport across the world with no ill effects is an extreme outlier. Most people would be drained using in-city aethernets, and become violently ill trying to teleport from one city to the next (you get a taste of this with the Thavnair blind teleport in the EW MSQ)
I want more of my nerd wife and her pet squirrel
>>737436337Because people thought it was going to be a Farming Sim a bit like Stardew valley but it turned out to just be more of the exact same shit that was already in the game.Plus it was heavily disincentivised to play Island Sanctuary multiplayer. It was Solo content, it was cosy, it was boring but not cosy, it was grindy, menu on top of menu and incredibly unfun.
>>737427000This game has actual moderation. Stricter moderation than most MMOs, too.>>737427325How do you know? If you played on JP or NA and you could suddenly play on a server with a low enough ping not to fuck up your rotation, wouldn't you move?
>>737436847That literally has nothing to do with the people of Ilsabard and Tural being able to use magic just fine, or the fact that people in Othard outside of the Azim Steppe, like Doma and Hingashi and Dalmasca, can use magic just fine.
>>737433715Hayamin's in everything under the sun. She can't be that expensive.
>>737437004If the VA is showing up at all then they're in the budget, simple as
>>737420347There's new game plus and trusts now, you can play through old content whenever you want.FYI young man Cleric Stance was not fun.Bow mage was not gunDOT mage was not funCape Westwind was not funThe Steps of Faith was not fun
>>737436970>How do you know? If you played on JP or NA and you could suddenly play on a server with a low enough ping not to fuck up your rotation, wouldn't you move?They tried this for the Materia DC and it ended up backfiring because the Strayans can barely muster enough people to populate a single world, let alone a DC. Squeenix also thought all the SEAmonkeys would migrate there, for some reason.
>>737437171steps of faith wasn't fun after it was nerfed. agreed with anything else
>>737437171I did like DoT mage and it's interesting to me that the devs still consider that to be Scholar's identity since it's reprised in PvP
>>737437184China and SK have far more players though. And their versions both have caught up with the rest of the world in patches recently.
>>737435237>they might be forced to drop the system for performance and resource reasons.The fuck are they going to add to a decade+ old MMO that it already isn't handling? It's an 8-player/24-player game at worst, in linear environments. The only 'stressful' thing the game has is S-ranks, but they could just cap the player model limit lower on PS4 if that becomes an issue.
Cleric Stance was funDOT Summoner was pretty funCape Westwind was quickSteps of Faith was literally whatever both post and pre nerf.
>>737437270>The fuck are they going to add to a decade+ old MMO that it already isn't handling?Nearly double the available RAM just from dropping PS4 for Switch 2
>>737420654that completely misses the point. the reason classic modes/pservers are popular is because>everyone is progressing the same content>class/job mechanics are how they used to be>classes/jobs are balanced versus the current progression contentthere's a reason nostalrius and later wow classic generated a lot of noise but black temple/ulduar timewalking were utterly forgotten. the point isn't to do coils as a one-off for fun and some tomestones, the point is to do coils with 2.x mechanics and gear and balance, with everyone progressing on it at the same time and having it offer the primary vertical progression rewards for endgame.there's a reason people told j faggot allen breck to eat a thousand dicks re you think you do but you don't. there's a huge disconnect between the ship of theseus'd devs at mmos like wow and xiv who think that current thing is the best (despite being in many cases fundamentally different than the old game) and people only like old thing because rose-tinted goggles. the reality is that expansions often fundamentally change mmos into different beasts entirely and while the old thing may have been less approachable, the entirety of the game design added up to something that held a very different appeal than the current product.i mention wow so much because at this point xiv and wow are basically going through the same thing. both devs are up their own ass, both think repeatedly dumbing down mechanics makes the game better, both have a general disdain for anyone who doesn't worship current thing over old thing.
>>737437263I wonder what the population of a China-only and SK-only DC would be, though. The advantage of playing on JP is that you have an amalgamation of Japan, China, Korea, SEA, and Australia and higher player counts = faster party fill times.
>>737435948this guy made me play ffxiv... i miss his videos
>>737437171>Cleric Stance was not fun.I feel like people talking it up really just want to play DPS and Healer and obsolete the need for DPS jobs.
>>737436970I already play like this and with Alex It's mostly fine so I wouldn't bother
>>737437527I suspect most people with fond memories of it were playing Scholar since that job didn't neuter its own healing to stay in offense stance. For WHM and AST it was annoying, for SCH it was free damage during HW
>>737436995Eorzean magic is more common and far more potent. Not sure why this is so confusing for you. Silvertear Falls is special, Eorzea is special. Your Xaela RP is not canon.
>>737437572Is there any reason to use Alex over NoClippy?
>>737437448It would be about as dead as OCE servers and filled with absolute degenerates. SEA players are animals.
>>737437635Sadu being able to shit out Comet or Meteor disagrees heavily with the notion that Eorzean magic is just stronger or better by default. It got retconned, pure and simple, Eorzea has a more magical culture on average but its magic isn't necessarily better, and even then that super-magic culture got absorbed largely into Sharlayan
>>737436995yes, it does. There are aetherial wells all over hydaelyn and a constant low-level shroud of aether all over the planet. It is thicker in some area, thinner in others. Eorzea is particularly thick.Thaumaturge questline also shows how different people have different aetherial capacity. Some people are D-Cells, others are a Tesla Battery Pack.The WOL is a walking steam engine.Emet Selch is a Nuclear Power Plant.Not EVERYONE in Tural can freely cast spells. They don't have the capacity to do it. If they could nobody would walk, they'd teleport on the aethernet around the city like the WoL does. Nobody would ride airships unless they were transporting cargo.
>>737436337>most hyped up piece of contentby zepla
>>737437734Sadu's brand of magic relies on Allagan totems that are charged with aether ahead of time.
>>737437651Alex doesn't need Dalamud up to work, otherwise NoClippy is the same thing
>>737437734higher than average doesn't negate outliers like Sadupoint: The WoL isn't an Eorzean native
>>737437651Don't they do the same thing? I've been using Alex since forever and it just works so i have no reason to even try Clippy.
>>737437313And? They aren't going to suddenly do a massive change to the game to actually warrant the use of the extra RAM, like making the world seamless, or adding 72-man content with how poorly their servers even handle shit like PVP when everyone clusters around the same spot, or having artificial limits on how many people can join combat shit like Eureka/Bozja.
>>737433972It was for me.They could probably stand to do a bit more work to some zones (and ofc gear).There's still ones that didn't get any overhauls, and the ones that did don't look bad, but I know they can push them more.>make a whole new crystal shader with subsurface scattering>don't reuse it for stuff like ice or mor dhona's crystals (yet)>just aetherytes and mini aetherytes
>>737437804Does Alex need to be updated when the game is updated? That would actually be really nice if I could do all the new content on patch day and still be able to do my rotation properly.
Dawntrail would've been better if the WoL was a Newt created by Alexandria.
>>737437734The Dawn Throne is LITERALLY a giant aetheric battery that is sucking up so much aether that it destroyed a small country.Sadu uses multiple totems as Aetheric batteries to cast her ultimate, that's why it fails when you destroy them.There's also the individual capacity for Aether, Sadu is higher than average to a degree than other of her race.
>>737437945Nice to see the trancers were already around in 1.0
DT is the best expansion since SB.
>>737420347I second this. The thought about starting a new MMO together with everyone and experiencing the expansions as they come is alluring, however starting a new one with decades of story that I will be catching up rapidly loses its appeal.I have even started XIV and felt terrible. The instanced dungeons and raids were REALLY easy and didn't posed any challenge whatsoever, not that i would want a very hard challenge from mandatory story content but it was pathetic, bosses died so fast that i couldn't even enjoy their music themes. Later i learned that in their prime time those battles that i was seeing end in 2 minutes lasted 10 on their original release date.I totally felt like i missed the boat and was better waiting for the next game
>>737438059thats the other thing. having a large internal aether reserve is one aspect of being a skilled caster, but being able to manipulate large amounts of aether is also a factor. thats why Alisaie is such a prodigy, in that she can fire off Vermillion Scourges with relatively little prep time compared to the other scions, let alone the standard thaumaturge
>>737438179Yeah, that name always makes me chuckle as well.
>>737437635Yeah see the problem with your argument is that we outright SEE people from Ilsabard, and go to Othard and Tural, and see people and monsters there shit out magic on the level of or even superior to people from Eorzea. We have directly and literally seen the fact that Eorzea isn't special when it comes to magic users. Since the text you quoted is also wrong about Garleans (it claims they don't have magic because aether is thin in Garlemald, but we know it's because of genetics and they couldn't cast magic even before they went to where Garlemald is) that calls into question EVERYTHING it claims in modern canon.
>>737438190true and real
>>737420347Why exactly hasn't SE tried to shut down Horizon? I feel like they'd definitely try to shut down a XIV private server because it's one of their biggest money makers, but then again XI has gotten a lot more subs lately.
do i do it?
>>737437743We're not arguing about whether some people have more aether than others. This is fact, everyone knows it. The point of contention is that piece of old ARR-era lore that Garleans don't have magic affinity because of where they're born, when we know it's actually their genetics, and that places outside of Eorzea don't have magic as strong, when we go to those places and physically witness that they do.
>>737438336>PraeWish that was me, I got Haukke Hard
>>737438336glad that isn't me
meh the high you get from>cleric stance on>throwing rocks throwing rocks throwing rocks>cleric stance off as soon as tank HP hits 10%>oGCD heal>cleric stance on >throwing rocks throwing rocks throwing rocksHaving that mini game was fun as fuck. funny when pussy tanks get mad and shit who don't even use their cooldowns and go "uhmmm you have to heal", did you die tho????
>>737438474>>737438508success
>>737438296I can't remember S-E ever going after any XI private servers. They usually just implode from drama.
>>737420347This isn't WoW, people don't really have nostalgia for the old game beyond a tiny sliver of the playerbase. The game largely succeeds as a social simsesque game, and setting up a server where everything is /fresh/ removes all of that.
https://youtu.be/vja5eQoJDso?t=8671.0 is so much better since it has all custom mocapped animati-
>>737437953Alex works on the update day
>>737438573Don't forget Berserk.
>>737438283>we outright SEE people from Ilsabard, and go to Othard and Tural, and see people and monsters there shit out magic on the level of or even superior to people from Eorzea.Levels aren't canon. The magical potency of Eorzea in general is an important piece of lore in the context of Garlemald's attempted invasion. You can't just handwave it because the new expansion has level 100 enemies instead of level 20 enemies.>Since the text you quoted is also wrong about Garleans (it claims they don't have magic because aether is thin in GarlemaldI didn't post that text, but you're also wrong here. It doesn't say that at all. It says aether is thinner in the Garlean Empire. And then, separately, it says the PEOPLE have low or no personal aetherial affinity.
>>737437834One wonders where a Lala WOL comes from then, since the late EW/DT lore shows their home islands got depopulated and they're obviously not from S9.
>>737437929>like making the world seamless,Who the fuck wants this, loading screens give a suggestion of size and travel
>>737438701Always a treat seeing warriors melt
>>737438701tbf having a good dungeon run actually felt pretty good with randoms. now they seem so samey since there's no skill ceiling (i mean there really wasn't even before) except when you get bad players.....
>>737438758If levels aren't canon (they sort of are, MNK job quests talk about leveling up as an in-universe aetheric process that raises strength and limits in a tangible way) then pretty much any non-primal monster ability isn't either, and THAT is a sticky argument
>>737438796I just personally like worlds that have proper region LoDs. Too much of XIV's areas looked liked dioramas after they added mounts, since anything beyond the playable area is a complete immediate downgrade into non-descript plains/terrain/sand to suggest its neighbouring location.
>>737438990er, flying mounts*That said I argue that flying mounts are a cancer in any MMO when the game devolves to skipping the whole map after you can fly around it.
>>737438779WOL materialized into existence a second before the opening cutscene by le azem magic. It's all according to the keikaku.Keikaku means plan in Japanese.
>>737438796>those black screens, yeah they're for IMMERSION!brother lol
>>737439068No there's a point there, go play the Majora's Mask recomp, the small bit of loading between regions adds something, and the instant traversal from one zone to another loses it.
>>737438758>Levels aren't canon.Nobody is talking about levels, it's about feats. When we see a character from Tural cast a big ol' spell.>The magical potency of Eorzea in general is an important piece of lore in the context of Garlemald's attempted invasionNot really, because Garlemald's goal is to invade everyone. The ceruleum is a big reason why they want to occupy specific areas though. But we're talking about people, not the land.>You can't just handwave...I can by pointing out when we see people on other continents using magic. Again, feats.>It doesn't say that at all. It says aether is thinner in the Garlean Empire. And then, separately, it says the PEOPLE have low or no personal aetherial affinity.This is you being intentionally disingenuous. Text is read on context, these aren't separate pieces of information, one is being used to justify the other. People in Garlemald don't use magic. Why? The text is implying it's because the aether is thinner and people don't develop magical affinity. You don't state two unrelated pieces of information like that in a paragraph, this is fucking informational writing 101. Also, Garleans don't have low personal aetherial affinity, they straight out don't have any ability to use magic period.
>>737437929>They aren't going to suddenly do a massive change to the game to actually warrant the use of the extra RAM,I'm having a vivid vision of (You) breathlessly arguing that 256MB for the PS3 version of the game was perfectly fine and they'd never require anything more while ARR FATEs and HW MSQ chugged and failed to load assets in the background
>>737438990NTA but I'm with you on wanting connected zones. Right now, they just feel like separate boxes rather than a grander world. It ruins the immersion a bit, since you're boxed into only the parts of the world that they want you to traverse. Naturally, not all zones can be connected. You wouldn't be able to get to Old Sharlayan without a teleport or a boat, which would be a loading screen. You can't get to Ultima Thule without a loading screen.But you could connected the places that are connected. Gyr Abania to the Shroud, to Coerthas, and so on. Then just make some neighbouring areas so that you're not literally peeking through the map.>since anything beyond the playable area is a complete immediate downgrade into non-descript plains/terrain/sand to suggest its neighbouring location.If they made a more open world(ish), they'd probably have to do more of that, not less. They wouldn't, for example, make entirely new zones and just not put them on the map. If it happened (which it won't), I'd expect them to expand the accessible borders and create transitionary zones and fat around the immediately relevant areas. But those wouldn't be fully realized the same way regular zones would be. They'd exist just to maintain the illusion that there's more land beyond where the MSQ tells us to go. And maybe sea.
>>737439137it's your autism pal. you need to get better at sorting that out.
>>737438701>stormblood>remove the pacify on berserk>also add shake it off which removed a debuff so warriors could cleanse themselveswho ok'd this job design
>>737439224PS4 is in that kind of situation now, right? Where it can function, but only barely.
>>737439302>You wouldn't be able to get to Old Sharlayan without a teleport or a boat, which would be a loading screen.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAZZuaonjpU
>>737439065Anon I know nobody here played 1.0 and doesn't remember early ARR quests but the implication is that you're one of the original Warriors of Light who got saved at the last minute by Louisoix during the Dalamud event, and that the teleportation misplaced you in time a little bit so you get a timeskip. You didn't come out of nowhere in the opening of ARR.
>>737439442that was only the 1.0 characters. and you still had to come from somewhere there as you still arrived to Eorzea in the opening cutscene
>>737439442>but the implication is that you're one of the original Warriors of Light who got saved at the last minute by Louisoix during the Dalamud eventOnly if you were actually there, like me.
>>737439442I'm not even talking about legacy opening cutscene. It was a joke that wol didn't exists before you make the character.
>>737439437I'm not saying "technically impossible", but more like "an even farther 'never ever' than anything else people are asking for here.They could absolutely make it so people can hop on a ship, it departs, then have some filler seas it traverses (water plane, some cliffs, some reefs, skybox, maybe some animals you can see through the water, etc.) and then you end up at Old Sharlayan (it would not feel accurate scale wise, but when has travel in this game felt accurate?).
I just need to use it one more time. They say time heals all wounds, but its a lie. The hole left only grows bigger.
>>737439224I actually played XIV on PS3 and raided on it until FCoB. The game was held together by sticks and glue, with custom AoE animations always being an issue unless you slapped an SSD into your PS3, which was rare to do at the time.>>737439375PS4 still holds 40+ FPS in Savage/Ult content depending on your settings, which is the only place where the performance matter.
>>737439534>>737439543>That was only the 1.0 charactersThat's canonically everyone, you just don't get the special tattoo otherwise. There are still a couple of NPCs and quests that heavily imply you being from the 1.0 party and reacting to that regardless.>>737439551Fair.
>>737439627>people who liked cleric stance: SCH players>people who didn't like cleric stance: WHM players
>>737439627>has a 5s CD to turn it off, but not onGod forbid you accidentally double-tapped your bind for it when you just wanted to remove it.
>>737439627>I want DPS classes not to exist
>>737439878I want roles to be deleted completely.
>>737439375Not quite as dire as that, but Sony's made some OS updates to allow games more RAM over the years by specific request of the XIV team, and it's getting to the point where they *can't* allocate more RAM for games. It's a matter of when and not if for things getting that shitty on PS4.
What the fuck is this historical revisionism?Game has always been braindead easy. Nobody wants to do dungeons and level up again either.Just add rewards for doing synced min IL for all the older raids like everyone has been wanting for the past decade.
>>737420347well of course its not growing anymore. its final fantasy 14. theres new final fantasys. were gonna need another final fantasy pretty soon
I will never, ever take seriously anything Square Enix or what the execs for FF14 say about harassment when they threw Susan Calloway out, fired her, treated her like shit and said nothing as she was doxed, harassed all by the supposed 'friendly, tolerant ff14 community'.FF14 players and devs playing the victim while being the aggressor and bully.
>>737439951I don't think that can function in any implementation of a FF-themed job system.
>>737438573the main problem is lack of communication. if a tank hits 10% and isn't getting healed at all, there are many other more plausible reasons that might happen beyond "healer doing very specific optimization" (like a dc or out of range or oom or loss of control or just an idiot healer) and so they're probably going to use a cd suboptimally to cover it.if you effectively communicate ahead of time that you're doing that or if you're playing with people who just know that's a thing, i don't think it's an issue, as long as you understand where damage spikes can occur and work around it. but if you just do it with random groups without saying anything, i can understand tank salt.t. former tank main current healer main
>>737440025>>737439951BOOOOOOO GET NEW MATERIAL
>>737439993They downloaded RAM!?
Have a blast from the past challenge run.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYxxj9cMd2w
Final Fantasy XIV: Pyrehail - out March 2027>Viking>Berserker>visit Aerslaent>verticality is a big feature in all PH zones
>>737440049It doesn't really function in any MMO that has an RPG mold. Always gonna have heavies, gonna make most sense for healers to be dedicated to it, always gonna have guys good at attacking. Roles and the holy trinity don't go away because they just werk. >>737440071
>>737439834Bullshit, it was fun on cnj, whm, sch and ast.>>737439834It was a double-edged ability, thats why it was so fun to get better at.>>737439878Fuck Roles in their stupid face, brought nothing but misery watching SE fit square pegs into a round hole.
>>737440049....Bud?
>>737440187You chose a game that has tanks, healers and DPS to sing about roleless setups?
>>737440106>[Trannies] vsEw give me a solo player doing that with other randos and maybe I'll give it a view.Oh and buy an ad.
Are elezen all predisposed to being autistic or is the Tyrant the Ninth's Urianger?
>>737440279obviously since players turned ninjas into a tank it means there are no roles
>>737440334The ears are lightning rods for autism (lalafell make for poor lightning rods due to their height)
>>737440187game literally has roles, and it has worse job variety than 14 because every single party must have a cor and brd or you cant even play the game on current content
>>737440279FFXI doesn't have any roles. Ninja can function as a tank, but there's no system or labeling that says "THIS JOB IS A TANK!" It can also function as a melee attacker or a debuffer. Summoner can function as a healer, a magical attacker, a support buffer, and sometimes even a tank. >>737440387Would you like to log into FFXI for me and show me where there are any roles at all?
>>737440187>FFXI>Two tanks>Healers that can buff, debuff, and nuke>Buffers that can also deal damage>DDs that deal damage via various means/gimmicks, some of which can fulfill minor roles of the above but not replaceWow, so different.
>>737440387that was old ffxi. nins cant tank anymore. they made sure everything has aoe base attacks to wipe shadows. nin is just another naegling bitch now except worse than all the others
>>737440404>game literally has rolesLog into FFXI for me and show me where the game has a role system.
Fanfest in 2 days. Stay away from the furries
>>737440451Lmao "job can off-spec so there aren't roles" is legitimately what you're saying, get fucking real would ya?
>>737440510the role system is enforced by playing with other players. but if you must have one, look at the trust list and the icons indicating which role they perform, lmao. fucking retard. get slayed
>>737440106>First team to clear Bahamut back then>Old members come back and clear UCOB first out of nowhereThat was pretty kino to be honest.
>>737440474STORM OF PYREBORN FROM HAIL
>>737440404>because every single party must have a cor and brdBRD is pretty much mandatory. COR really depends on the piece of content, and it's primarily just Sortie's meta that demands it due to Boltersm and certain AMAN where you want Chaos/Sam's up to burn a target.
>>737440474wtf so Pyrehail is real?
>>737420347I just want them to shift the entire game into a sandbox FFXI style, and to completely remove the hot bar based combat and replace it with a skills menu like older Final Fantasy games. If the entire game played identically to Eureka I would resub in a heartbeat, as Eureka is the only good content this game has ever produced.I also want them to make crafting 100% mandatory to get endgame gear, I hate getting gear from dungeons and boss drops that are better than things you can make. Just turn the game into an OSRS-like.
>>737440124>>737440474LET'S GO ROE BROS. WE WON
>>737440552There literally is no role system in FFXI. End of story. There are common duties you want filled in a party such as someone to tank, someone to heal, someone to pull, etc. But there is no role system in FFXI. You have no argument here, there is no role system. It does not exist. There are just jobs with pools of skills that can function in different ways as needed.>>737440558Trusts aren't players. They have a limited amount of skills and a Gambit style AI system to tell them what to do. Obviously Gessho can't do anything but tank because he's an NPC with limited options programmed into him. You as a Ninja can do many different things. You're being retarded on purpose now because you can't admit you're wrong.
>>737420654>>737421230shadowbabbies sincerely believe this
>>737426032>being a more complex = more fun autismo Hasn't worked, will never work, people will always pick the easiest job that does the most damage for the least amount of work.
>>737440638>COR really depends on the piece of contentyeah, is it anything that requires a full group? yes? brd and cor mandatory. melee and magic setup. non negotiablecor is an efficiency drop no matter what in all content and you cant say that it isnt, thus mandatory
>>737440749game literally telling you that roles exist. get fucked. cope harder
>Square Enix's strategy for Final Fantasy 14 is to appear to take an aggressive stance towards their own player base, the people who pay their wages, who keep their lights running it's an interesting stance to take and if they were a government bureaucracy not beholden to elections then they could afford to take such an aggressive stance, however as a business attacking your own customer base and losing the good will of paying customers has only ever worked for companies that are 'too big to fail' and that appears to be the mentality behind the execs at Square Enix, they are too big to fail which accounts for their negative actions towards their own players however, their financials for the last two years shows they are anything but and that decline coupled with a heavy investment in the NFT market long after the fad was over, Square Enix is operating as if it's 2006 but it's 2026 and both money and time are running out for this once ubiquitous Japanese game development company.
The Arcadion ending is so corny jesus.
>>737440885>i was just pretending to be retarded so hah!
>>737440749I think I've seen you try shitting up FFXI threads and get bullied out before.
>>737440858no cor is an efficiency drop*
ONE BRINGS PYREONE BRINGS HAIL
>>737440593>>737440662>>737440732What was the post that was deleted?
>>737440890booooo get something new
>>737440914its prowrestling, it should be
>>737440929i win and have more primes than you, enjoy your no prime no party game because you dont understand roles
>>737440934>lose argument because you purposefully misunderstood what was said>start boogeymanning
>>737440510>No no no you don't get it, Black Mage isn't a DPS
>>737440960its a dude who deleted his own post and then replied to himself to make it feel like it was important
>>737440858>cor is an efficiency drop no matter what in all content and you cant say that it isntIt still highly boils down to the content. If DDs are getting capped damage with a REMAP BRD, then another DD would be a gain over a COR. I mostly just use my COR in Dynamis-D/Odyssey/Sortie and not much else these days.
>>737440960it was a dark mountain with what looked like fire on the edges and the "PYREHAIL" logo, it was 404 Error when I tried to open the thumbnail
Healers should heal. The healing amount required in dungeons and raids should be so intense you're lucky to be able to spare a global or two for damage, that is all. Playing a green DPS with no damage buttons is BORING.
>>737440451all of the things you just mentioned are roles. it sounds like you're saying that classes/jobs can perform multiple roles. that doesn't mean the game is roleless, it means that the game is slightly more flexible than "not at all" in what roles can be performed. this isn't meaningfully different from how xiv or wow work; even wow has had stuff like shaman tanks, rogue evasion tanks, and hunter/warlock pet tanks at various points. it doesn't mean roles didn't exist.the only way you "delete roles" is to make specialization meaningless and that'd suck because it'd mean homogeneity. specialization is natural and fun; different people enjoy different gameplay styles and can specialize to do things they enjoy more. if you tried to enforce some sort of "roleless" gameplay, the only way you could do that is by either having everyone do everything all the time or by having everyone only able to do a single thing. both of those sound awful.
>>737441016>boogeymanningThanks for confirming it was in fact you. Same stunt pulled in XI threads.
>>737433604>erm its baked lighting that means its bad>it needs to be realistic lighting (look like shit) that makes my gpu scream or else it sucksWe need to return to baked lighting unironically
>>737438443You must be autistic because you can't understand the difference between averages and outliers.
>>737440890People are fatigued on slop and that's all Square Enix seem to produced these days, slop. Remember Killer Inn, Foamstars, Forspoken? Yeah no one else does either
>>737441258>erm its baked lighting that means its badyep
>>737441003>>737441039>certain jobs need to be filled in a party so you can function as a group, and jobs can fill these positions in many ways, most jobs can fill several positionsvs>the game hard enforces exactly one position on your job and that is all it can do foreverThese are not the same thing, you're just being argumentative for the sake of it. No, BLM is not a DPS in FFXI. There's no system in the game that labels it a DPS. It does have a lot of high damaging spells and can fill that position in a party. It also has a lot of debuffs and crowd control abilities like Sleep.>>737441214>all of the things you just mentioned are roles.You're just intentionally misunderstanding what I said because you want to start an argument. What I want gone is the ROLE SYSTEM. THE HARD CODED ROLE SYSTEM THAT EXISTS IN MODERN MMOS AND PIGEON HOLES CLASS DESIGN. Is that clear enough for you?
>>737441134But being a DPS and a Healer made me feel more IMPORTANT than the rest of the party and I deserve that.
Did anyone save the thumbnail at least?
>>737441134No, spamming heals is boring and takes away the already minimal challenge of it. Being forced to heal every second will not make it intense but rather the opposite. When it's the only thing you do it makes it easier to focus on.
>>737441295retard or jeet nvidia shill
>>737441348Someone with more knowledge than you, wannabe culture warrior.
>>737441265There is no lore telling you that people being able to cast magic in Tural are outliers any more than people in Eorzea who end up being casters are outliers.
>>737441125wrong on all accounts, cor savages with the best of them, and theres no other job that makes up for the loss of sam roll across the party. and this would only be on easy garbage like dyna d/segment farms or whatever bullshit. anything that is the current endgame requires cor and brd, end of discussion. big ups for at least realizing that attack buffs beyond pdif cap is overkill and a waste, most ffxi players dont understand this
>>737441226Do you have anything worthwhile to say about Final Fantasy or are you just interested in being an intestinal worm ridden basket case?
>>737441258>>it needs to be realistic lighting (look like shit) that makes my gpu scream or else it sucks1.0 already made your GPU scream without it.
>>737441390>this lighting that looks good is bad because.. it just is OKAYShut the fuck up rajeesh, you know literally nothing.
>In previous fanfests there was so much demand by the fans to take part in the cosplay event it had to be strictly limited>NA fanfest SE are having to pay 'professional' cosplayers because there were so few entries.
>>737441306>It also has a lot of debuffs and crowd control abilities like Sleep.BLM has Sleep in 14, crowd control and debuffs have been a part of fucking DPS design since EQ. Debuffing isn't a dedicated role in the trinity because most games make either the DPS and/or the Healer a debuffer. >It's not a DPS because it doesn't have a big red DPS label and...This is being intentionally stupid. Something is a DPS if its primary design is based around doing damage. This is true of BLM.
>>737441395>wrong on all accounts, cor savages with the best of themIf you're doing content that requires 6 people, you're not Naegling spamming it, you're having a SAM or WAR solo multi-stepping with a caster multi-bursting.
Zero as a travel companion for 8.0 y/n?
>>737441456that wasn't the lighting thoughbeit it was the unoptimized polycount on random fuck objects that didn't matter
>>737441337>I hate Healing as a HealerDon't play Healer?
>>737440387>wow druids can tank heal, melee and cast so wow doesn't have jobs
>>737441557Who are you quoting you illiterate retard?
>>737441478>it just isn't bad if objects in the environment can't dynamically illuminate something around them other than character models and nights are just daytime but with a tint because uhh... because it JUST ISNT ok??? this is all propaganda by nvidia.. or jeets.. or jews, or trannies, or [insert other boogeyman]Your parents must be brother and sister.
>>737430107Got my goy pretzels now.
>>737441532an expansion that has Zero, Gaia and Golbez join us as part of the MSQ (making SHB raids mandatory), sign me up
>>737441524>This is being intentionally stupid. Something is a DPS if its primary design is based around doing damage. This is true of BLM.Ninja was primarily designed around dealing damage but ended up usually filling the role of tank because its skill pool allowed for such a thing. That's because FFXI does not have a role system in the game. What it has is a party system, and parties typically need certain roles filled to function properly. That is absolutely not the same thing as the game hard forcing one label and function onto a job.
>>737441532plot wise i can't think of a reason she'd hang around with us outside the 13thshe would fulfill the tank/melee role that we always seem to be missing for trusts though
>>737441306>You're just intentionally misunderstanding what I said because you want to start an argument.i'm responding to what you typed. you can't just expect people to read your mind. not everyone is in your headspace.>Is that clear enough for you?i mean it's a slight improvement but you're not explaining what that would look like or what it would achieve. let's say xiv removed the hard-coded role system. that doesn't change anything about jobs being designed largely to fill those niches. so are you saying you want job design to be changed to be more flexible? should that apply to every job? should each job be given every possible role or just "more?" what ultimate end are you trying to achieve?
>>737441645how was the layover? its usually phoenix for me when i go to california
>>737441645It’s just fascinating how every kind of inflammation and stomach discomfort went away because I made sure to avoid anything with canola or any seed oils. Cracks me up when I see shit like “organic canola oil”. Fuck that.
>>737441650>3 characters with literally no charisma or personality we're stuck with for an entire expansionwow... sign me up...
>>737441317Maybe if it was more buttons than standard dot and "GCD skill you cast 99% of the time">>737441337So don't play a healer? Have you ever played any other game as a healer? You're expected to heal 90% of the time, the damage taken by tanks and party members is a lot higher in general and it's YOUR job to fix it.
>>737441527if youre doing hard content, you have a corsair because pdif cap isnt possible on odyssey bosses. you literally dont solo dd on like anything either
>>737441737Thankfully the same terminal and boarding started 10 minutes after I disembarked. Could’ve done a direct flight to LAX but that involves driving an hour from there to Anaheim. Fuck that.
>>737441675I mean if all the shards including the 13th are about to implode on themselves she can probably go "sure I’ll help"
>>737441607You said healing is boring.
>>737441670This is called unintended design. That wasn't supposed to happen. And the devs have effectively removed your ability to do it in XI now because it was unintended.
>>737430107>>737441645>otw to fanfest
>>737441732>let's say xiv removed the hard-coded role system. that doesn't change anything about jobs being designed largely to fill those niches.It would allow jobs to be designed to be able to do other things aside from their hard coded role.>so are you saying you want job design to be changed to be more flexible?Yes, I want SAM to be able to tank with Shirahadori, I want MNK to have a massive HP pool and Counter. I want SMN to be able to properly heal with Phoenix and cast shields with Carbuncle. I want DRK to be able to use HP as a resource.>what ultimate end are you trying to achieve?The game feeling more like Final Fantasy.
>>737441902vomiting blood in my mouth thank you
>>737441134Healers are 90% healing buttons and 10% damage buttons. In the vast majority of fights you press healing buttons 10% of the time and press damage buttons 90% of the time. This design should never have left the concept stage yet has been in the game for over half its lifespan. The fuckup is legendary.
>>737441778>>737441846>So don't play a healer?>You said healing is boring.You two are the dumbest motherfuckers in the planet holy shit. I only said that just spamming heals would be boring. You can't even understand the rest of what I said.
>>737441879>This is called unintended design. That wasn't supposed to happen.And yet it did. Why? How? Because there's no role system in FFXI and players just used the skill pool how they saw fit. If there was a role system in FFXI then NIN could not have ever functioned as a tank because there would have been a big red "DPS" label on it and you'd only be able to join groups as a DPS.
>>737441670>parties typically need certain roles filled to function properly.soa role system
>>737441134they'd have to make it interestingnot that "heal sometimes and then spam the DPS buttons" is good eitherbut they'd have to do somethingpersonally I think buffs/debufs would be funlike when you aren't healing, start applying damage or defensive buffs or slowdown the enemy auto attacks or even slow down their casting barbut then they'd probably have to rework content to account for it or something
I remember there was a time where Thaumaturge could solo most NMs in 1.0 before the ability rework (prior to jobs being added). I couldn’t do it, I sucked at it. Unironically, it took me playing Xenoblade to better grasp tab target MMOs.
>>737442007No, that's not a role system. >>737441998
>>73744180710 minutes is a bit clench
>this game doesn't have a role system heh>look inside>role system
>>737441547The poly count of the game was fine. Hell, the ARR models only have 4k less tris than 1.0's, and most of that was just reduced from the hands and legs. It was the shaders that were heavy for what it was pushing since it bloated the draw call count on every individual piece being worn for GPUs at the time. Also shader model 3.
>>737442063Boarding was like 10 different groups so it worked out. Thankfully fhe way back has more time.
>>737441971All the healing you do require is completely oGCD too, it really is strange. Honestly a lot of the PvP kits for classes are way more unique too. XIV is a weird game if you think about it
>>737441916ok see that makes more sense. i agree with that within limits. as long as it's just the developers getting out of the way of emergent niches or even enabling the ones that players find, i think that's cool. but conversely i don't think devs need to make it so every job can do every possible thing, that's a bridge too far.
>Friday>reveal trailer begins>CGI Gaia steps into view>Final Fantasy XIV: PyrehailHow do you react?
>>737442272>oh god i'm gonna be stuck with this ugly bugeyed beestung non-character designed by a hack with a near-fetishistic fixation with belts for an entire expansion
>>737442269Jobs shouldn't be able to do everything, they should just have flexibility. If your PLD ate shit right before a tankbuster and the SAM could jump in front and Shirahadori it to save the run, that would be cool.
I've been out for a whiledo people have a reasonable guess where the next expansion is going?
>>737441902Legitimately never heard of her first years until folks started to post her, only knew lazzyar, mtq, and mrhappy.
>>737441950You troons are so overly dramatic. Grow up you thin skinned cunts.
>>737420347>I wish there was a classic FFXIV server that started in 2.0It was shit back then and its worse now, the only time it ever got to being "decent" was in Shadowniggers, even then it was below average. Making a "Classic XIV" server is not going to fix anything, 50% of the reason FFXIV is so shit is the players who made it this way with secondlife tier mods, none of this goes away with re-treading old grounds.This is a mid tier MMO propped up by its story, the gameplay was always Simon Says with extra steps and it always felt like a socially dead hellscape filled with troons who will try to get you banned if you say anything they slightly disagree with, the gameplay never incentivized you to interact with other players.The best thing they can do is invent a time travel machine and announce that the game isn't getting updates after Endwalker and start working on a new MMO, too late for that now though.
>>737424748
>Takes a week for world first XIV Ultimate >Takes literal years for world first XI Master TrialUltimate players don't know what fucking tedium is until you have to rely on RNG for a fight to even be completed within the 60min limit, in one attempt.
>>737442429everything is pointing to shard hopping at the moment. but there's no reason to believe that is the case. remember, 6.5 was Void, and 6.55 was Tural
>>737442462Sorry someone insulted your washed up gamer mommy.You do know Shitpla appealed to troons by crying and screaming for "bnuuybois" for years, right?
>>737442603Put those in a game where I can do it myself I don't even care if I have to micro a whole raid party and I'll do it in one day. The only difficulty in those things is the IRL player gacha game.
>>737420347Anyone else use ARR as the title screen?It's nostalgic, I love the Prelude theme
>>737442603You forgot the part where there was a huge permanent banwave of the small pool of dwindling players who would even be interested in the Master Trial in the first place.
>>737424837I wish 2.0 kept the MoCap ARR and all the expacs have really stiff and stilted cutsceneshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvXSHLPB1aM
>>737442651Didn't troons want that hag's head because of some drama?
>>737442702for me, its Endwalker
>>737426927it doesn't count China or Horeanit doesn't count anyone under lvl 71
>>737424627You will all play one hundred hours of Hamlet Defense with me for your 1.0 relics. You will watch NPCs fight each other for 15-20 minutes a round while your party, the most efficient composition being 3 healers, 2 DoH, 2DoL, and I believe 1 tank barely engage with the enemy.
>>737442272I don’t think that name is a good one. Gotta consider what’s pronounceable for the JP side.
>>737420347Who cares, you niggers will just cheat in those versions too just like you do on retail. Once a cheater always a cheater and once Yoshi found out what you did it broke his tiny asian heart. Dude sunk the rest of his life force into reviving this game and look what you do with it. Shameful. Also, return to your containment/vg/ board.
>>737442695All I want is an Infinite Engine game that does MMO style mechanics for boss encounters.
>>737442748because she played that harry potter game
>>7374427391.0 wasn't all mocap.XIV currently has mocapped cutscenes.
can anyone explain why anyone would play ff14 in current day? the msq is like 500 hours long, gay as shit, and then you just do boring dungeon shit. whats even the point. just have ai play the game for you and do something else
>>737442760oh like Heavensward?
>>737442727I honestly don't know why they were banning for the sac strat on Teodor. The dev clearly isn't stupid and likely has a server-side flag that alerts when a fight is cleared to see the approach taken, and if he doesn't like it, then patch it out. XI telegraphs fuck-all that isn't a !! pop-up, so how are people supposed to figure out obtuse gimmicks?
>>737426850I was going to ask how the fuck you did that until I saw the RW BHCrazy
>>737442839Feels like an inverse.
>>737442859I don't understand why you'd *permanently* ban a large swath of your most loyal players of a 25 year old "dead" MMO, even if they were straight up cheating.
>>737442908People just like to hardfocus on the sub-20 or so actually mocapped cutscenes 1.0 had and pretend post 2.0 XIV only has basic animations - ever.
>>737442908It's true. XIV cutscenes feel stiff mostly because of shitty camera work.
>>737442748Troons will turn on you at the drop of a hat for the most minor of things. Its why you never listen to them or their followers
>>737442849>can anyone explain why anyone would play ff14 in current day?Because they're interested in playing a game.Why would anyone play any game in the current day?
>>737442849Short answer is Sunk Cost Fallacy, all other MMORPG's being dead / somehow worse and lastly no new MMORPG's that cater to what these people want. If an even half decent MMORPG came around XIV would be dead in a month, sadly wont happen though.
>>737442908After playing XI, whose cutscenes are almost entirely stock animations just like XIV, I have to say that the camera work is a lot more dynamic in XI and makes the cutscenes feel less stiff. XIV just needs better camera work to make the scenes feel more dynamic. XI also has that shimmery mirage effect that they like to use whenever something important is happening.
>>737442603important to note that ffxi master trials have no kind of progression reward that makes you stronger. nobody cares about them. a few spergs that still hold onto the idea of elitism from 20 years ago will try to make it sound like their time spent on a master trial makes them special or whatever, but really it just makes them retarded because the content is pointless and offers no incentive to do it
>>737443006>do workaround strat to clear a fight -> banned without warning>bot JP/ML 24/7 w/ another bot spamming /yell channel advertising it for gil in town -> proceed
>>737443131Current XIV has 3 tiers of cutscenes.It too has cutscenes that aren't mocapped but have a more dynamic camera.But it also has the static camera cutscenes.
>>737443114SoLO was the best chink tab target MMO ever made but the global publisher managed to fuck it up
>>737443164>important to note that ffxi master trials have no kind of progression reward that makes you stronger.Same difference for XIV Ultimates, unless you really think the extra meld slot amounts to anything. Both are just for the weapon glamors.
>>737443092because its not a game. its a waste of time. you click and run in a straight line to the next thing. your actions in battle content are so robotic ai can easily play it.its not a game. its there to waste your time so you can slowly increase your item level number. complete garbage game
>>737443034>>737443131This. It's almost always flat shot/reverse shot where they stand in place using canned emotes. Occasionally you get a walkie talkie or a zoom in on an item or scenery but they don't really try to go further than that.
>>737443131XI also has some XIV doesn't.Crossfades
>>737443131They've been doing better camera work in more recent cutscenes, I agreeIt's underappreciated how much good camera work moves you to feel
>>737442651I couldn't give a fuck about Zepla but the way you grown men cry about people who used to play this game or make videos about it and don't anymore, that's what makes you a thin skinned overly dramatic cunt. You'll also never be a woman.
>>737443251>because its not a gameI think it quite literally is a game however.
>>737443251They also sanded the edges off of old dungeos for said AI to play it and the game is so riddled with plugins that autoduty exists to let you alt tab or 2nd screen the gameplay.
What will the expansion title be? Any trademark leaks?
>>737443131XI really is the king of doing more with less. I played it a few years ago to get an idea of the story and while base game and Zilart are mostly pretty boring like XIV, by Promathia they're doing weird dutch angles and fish angle lens shots with a slow zoom. Really adds a cinematic feel and makes you forget the low poly model is just doing /think or something.
>>737443251Wait until you figure out that you are describing all video games.
>>737442748She used to be super positive about FF14 and then started playing others games and was more critical of FF14, you see in a cult leaving the cult is a crime worse than murder and Zepla left the cult of toxic positivity. That's why she's hated and retards on here have an instant emotional reaction when her name is said.
>>737443381>I couldn't give a fuck about ZeplaYet you'll cry your pants and scream troon whenever someone doesn't like her.>You'll never be a woman.I know you won't, but you don't have to narrate your inner thoughts about yourself for me.
>>737442851Actually yeah. Plus too few letters. I feel like DT is the bare minimum of letters for a title, 9.
>>737443469>Doesn't read the post>Selectively quotes parts of the post which changes the intent of the postEmotional response of a woman aggression of a man.
>>737443452>Stop making fun of my favorite eceleb she said I was her special boy! >:'( shitty mean evil cult I hate you I hate you!!!
>>737443452is she still milking the ukraine thing?
>>737443452>She used to be super positive about FF14 and then started playing others games and was more critical of FF14That's not what happened, anon. She got mindbroken by TOP, ragequit XIV, and then started playing Genshin, which then turned into her crawling back to WoW, which is where she originally came from.
>>737443240I played XIV for so long because SEGA fucking killed PSO2 for me by creating the dogshit that was New Genesis, thankfully Dawntrail helped me stop paying monthly for this shit tier MMO too.Always count on MMO devs to forcefully cut off your addictions for you.
>>737443554That's exactly what happened. Do you think we've forgotten how you faggots used to spam her here every day throughout EW?
>>737443551You'd know better than me, apparently those who hate her most know the most about her.
>>737443540Have you gotten over your asshurt from someone saying a negative thing about a streamer that fell off?
>>737443612i don't watch her so i'm actually asking
>>737443598>That's exactly what happened.My post describes what happened, yes. >Do you think we've forgotten how you faggots used to spam her here every day throughout EW?Not me, nope, and no, I don't remember.
>>737443554>That's not what happenedYes it is, it's exactly as it was said. You fags loved her when she was the heart and soul of FFXIV and being super positive of the game, you turned on her when she began being critical of the game and she became verboten.
>>737443658You're best off asking the people who hate her who seem to know the most about her>>737443635
zepla's sweaties should spend less time hall monitoring xiv threads and wagging their finger at anyone who dares not like their queen and spend more time watching her garbage so her """"career"""""" doesn't die
>>737443702>Yes it is, it's exactly as it was said.Yes, it is exactly as *my post* said. She got mindbroken by TOP, became a Genshin streamer, and then went crawling back to WoW. She became "critical" of XIV because she failed an ultimate. Or maybe she cleared it and then ragequit, I don't remember. Bottom line is she ragequite after getting mindbroken by an ultimate, became a gacha streamer, then went back to WoW which is where she came from. And I have never posted Zepla in my entire life, stop doing this "you guys" thing, I'm not part of whatever you are imagining or remembering.
>>737443398A Realm Reborn: Just Cause.
took him the whole thread but he finally baited someone into arguing with him. lol
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>>737443938who the fuck is moot
>>737443857>Never posted about Zepla before but parrots the same thing said about her almost verbatimSurrrre
>>737443881Giving up our mounts for wingsuits.
>>737444028he owned reddit at one point
>Guys I'm totally not triggered that someone said something with a mildly negative connotation about this streamer, I don't even care. It literally does not matter a bit, but I'm going feverishly and angrily argue for several posts about how you are all evil chud cultists for saying mean things about this streamer because everyone loves her you can't possibly love her that's just sour grapes from her leaving for greener pastures!!!
>>737442272>How do you react?Immediate tent pitching from the tent pole-sucking lips.
>>737444067>Rescue gets replaced with a Grapple hook
>PS4 beta>Start up>Pick the midget race as is tradition>Thaumaturge because Black Mage is the face of the franchise>Load into Ul'dah and hear absolute peak kino https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JG7oQT6rnwM>Get out into the field and hear even more kino https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N43KJhWPrK8I feel like Ul'dah was the best place to startSoken's traditional work is very underrated and underappreciated, these themes leave a strong impression
>>737444045>>Never posted about Zepla beforeYou're doing the leftist thing, anon. Stop doing the leftist thing. I have never posted Zepla. I've never said anything positive about Zepla, I've never posted her likeness anywhere ever. I'm just correcting "the narrative" with the truth. She became "critical" of XIV after she ragequit to Genshin because she got mindbroken by TOP. And then she went crawling back to WoW, because that's where she came from. This is simply an accurate recounting of events.
>>737444198I still preferred how chill Ul'dah's 1.0 Uematsu theme was compared to the loud brass of Soken's version.
Zepla? That's kind of funny someone brought her up. She actually came up during a discussion with friends a few days ago where some guy I know said he had a book where he would write down mistakes made, and someone mentioned "So you pulled a Zepla?", and then the guy said, "LOL, no way. I actually know how to play without being carried. I'm using the book to write down my own mistakes."And that was funny to me. I thought that kind of scrutiny was exclusive to here, while everyone else just kinda consoomed her shit indiscriminately without thinking about it. I guess she has kind of a reputation in the raiding community.
>>737444198I love the night theme personally, sometimes when returning to my house I'd just sit around at the ward a bit to listen to it more.
>>737444198>>737444330Uematsu mogs.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rThNaoLGau8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1H0x41kGj8
what was his name again?
>>737444395Who?
>>737442702i use that dalamud plugin that lets you do a custom title screen and i set it to the place in gridania you can only get to on a couple quests (the airship launch area) facing out across the lake southwest with the time set to noon and the weather set to rain, no music no logos
>>737444381Sucks that some of the 1.0 themes sound out of place (especially levequest battle themes), since he composed them back when the game's aesthetic was learning towards more futuristic/XIII, rather than the XI style high-fantasy it ended up with.
>>737443434>character walks into a building>the scene is shot from the ceiling and follows like a cctv footageeven simple shit like this makes cutscenes more enjoyable. it happens regularly in xi. xiv loves making everything a cutscene and i think they're cutting corners because of the sheer amount of it.
>>737443881Huh. I thought they sold this IP with the other western ones.
>>737444334She was honestly mostly propped up by wowfags.Part of that wave of streamer idolatry that ruined the experience for many people during the initial influx that a lot of posters in /v/ and /vg/ threads bitched about at the time. In a similar vein to people clogging up worlds and making travel between zones possible so they could jump around Asmongold, or some other streamer.
>>737444381i love Twilight over Thanalan so much
>>737444205>I don't know anything about her at all which is why I posted the exact same post regurgitated over and over on here about her.
>>737444495XIV was always fantasy. Uematsu just has no problem putting rock tracks into fantasy. Here's the earliest view of XIV.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBVUIeB7RRg
>>737444395What four years in Alexandria does to an Eorzean man
>>737444579>You must be very invested in this person to mention a heavily truncated and easy to digest version of events about them and their community that stank up your game.NTA but I have no idea what your point is.
>>737444579You're still doing the leftist thing, anon.
>>737444330>>737444381Twilight Over Thanalan is really good, I remember scouring youtube to find it after they used it in a cutscene
>>737444580I still don't know why they replaced the glass city with Limsa. Even in the alpha client install which has an ancient version of Limsa's map layout with the grid lines visible, it had that version from an overhead perspective.
>>737444786>glass cityyou mean crystarium?
>>737444786ps3 performance pureasu understandu
before the thread ends, suggest axes that are on the simpler design side. bravura is a little too overdone
>>737444827It has no internal name in the files. ARR just recycled the aesthetic for a worse looking version in Endwalker, making it opaque instead.
>>737444786I would guess it was too demanding.
>>737444953Shadowbringers, but yeah.It was made crystal instead of glass.The graphical update really ought to update them further, though. Add a special crystal shader to them, rather than just a flat crystal texture.
>>737444953>ARR just recycled the aesthetic for a worse looking version in Endwalker, making it opaque instead.What is the location in Endwalker?
>>737444827https://youtu.be/FBVUIeB7RRghttps://youtu.be/Vg6yutR3AG0It's def supposed to be limsa. They just reused some of it in crystalrium.
New thread?
>>737445114no
>>737441394Thaumaturge and Conjurer quest do.
>>737441971Healers shouldn't be DPS.
>>737445210SCH should be.
>>737442727>>737443006Whoever runs FFXI moderation has always been a crazy ban-happy control freak.
New thread!
>>737444718Meanwhile I have posts actually liked by Woes and you don't. You are the Leftist here.
