Can these people just fuck off?, How do you even have fun it with suboptimal stats or strat?
Meta smith here, I think that strength wizard is unto something
>>737427402fish pole staff was meta in the last season but got nerfed into the ground in the name of balancing
>>737427316>WHO CARES IF WE LOSE, IT'S JUST A GAMEThis but unironically. Compfagging in a non-comp game mode should be punishable by 25 lashes and 3 days in the salt mines.
>>737427316I will continue kidnapping people as deadlock doorman, because you actually can kill people at twice your level
Life is short, if they want to waste 100x trying and failing at games with a shitty build, that's their problem.
>>737427927Dude playing games has the same value whenever you are good at it or not
>>737427316solved games are boring
>players discover a way to make STR wizard actually work>devs immediately nerf it into the ground
>>737427994Explain "solved games"
>>737427316I know this is bait but only mindlessly following others is some seriously soulless bug behaviour.
>>737427851There is a world of difference between something not being META and something being objectively retarded and useless. Nobody is having fun playing something objectively useless like AP Yasuo in league.
>>737428046pure bullshit nothingburger term used when the poster doesn't like the meta for something
@737428113Says the faggot that follows the same posting pattern of every single anon in this board
>>737428162Removing nearly all off meta ratios was boring as fuck though
>>737427316why can't i just make a build that i think is good and suits my play style and not get ridiculed by meta fags for picking a couple wrong abilities or perks that i thought were fun or for putting one extra point in a skill because i felt like i needed it at the time? anyone who plays a game like in your pic knows they're being retarded, that's the point, but actually playing the game how you want without following the top rated build is how any player who isn't trying to be competitive should play.
>play team game>refuse to play as a team
meme build is fine if but dont go into challenge contents and expect other to pick up your slackor wait until the game release the sub class that make your build work
Metafags are not people, they are NPC's. They do not have minds and thoughts of their own. Their minds are empty. Worst of all, they ruin all other games for everyone else. Fucking Autistic Faggots.
>>737428291nothing is stopping you playing single player games
>>737428247Sure, but that's the devs fucking up. If you go Sion/Pantheon botlane, sure it's stupid but it's also funny and can somewhat work, what everyone rightfully hates are the Yuumi jungle bullshit type of picks. Nobody can tell me it's actually fun to pick Medic in TF2 and only use your melee weapon, not your healing beam, not your syringe gun or crossbow, just run headfirst at the enemy and use melee weapon and die 35 times getting 2 kills total. Not that I saw that one happen, but it's the mentality of those bs excuses as in OP's picrel.
>>737427316Lmao my brother is like this I swear in every single game he somehow hones in on the weakest weapon or build and then refuses to switch to something else out of pride. He will always swear he's gonna master the weakest character/class/weapon/build. It's just the way he is.
>>737428162Retarded Strawman image. Doesn't make an argument.
>>737427316Because optimal play sucks. Games are only fun when played the way that's funnest to the person playing.
>>737427316>he doesn't know about STR fish pole wizard stratNGMI, this shit gets absolutely broken at level 3.
>>737428508How do you even get to level 3 when you are constantly getting impregnated in the ass for playing str wizard?
>>737428046https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solved_game
>>737427316the people who only care about winning with disregard to their own self worth and principles are compensating for deep-seated feelings of inferiority in their own personal life. these people are mal-adjusted and seek their only forms of validation and accomplishment where there is none; “it’s just a game”ers are morally, spiritually, emotionally, and physically in the right on this one.
>>737427316Nah, metafags can fuck off.>WoW:WotLK raiding>be resto shaman>Metafags say stacking haste and spamming chain heal is meta Highest [potential] heals per second.>looking at talent trees for 5 minutes clearly shows that stacking crit and primarily using lesser healing wave is the intended design>do that instead>everyone tells me I'm doing it wrong and need to switch to haste>every other resto shaman is following meta>every time there's another resto shaman in raid they're spamming mana pots on CD and screaming for innervates>crit spec never needed extra mana>look at the numbers and see that I'm always the top healer in every category, even against other shamans with higher gear score>most healing done>highest heals per second>most effective healing>least amount of overhealing
>>737428594Don't have a team that feeds the enemy Dwarf to level 35, for starters.
>>737428162>Nobody is having fun playing something like league.FTFY
>>737428768Kek, true. I stopped when the jungle got ass-raped with every single wall being busted down and the laners being given 3 times the previous distance to see any gank coming, that was shortly before they implemented their Vanguard spyware.
>>737428162>Nobody is having fun playing something objectively uselessIt's fun when you get good with it and shit on others. Killing a competent player trying their darndest by using the designated trashy pew-pew pistol feels great, since it proves you can still fuck them up even when you handicap yourself. Don't tell me you can't see the fun in running a joke build and actually making it work.
>>737427316I think it's fine, as long as you're not going into high-level content with it.If I'm gonna be carrying your ass, then the least you could do is bring stuff that works.
>>737428846Sure, but nobody complains when someone with a joke build/loadout is being useful in spite of it, it's when the guy is actively detrimental to his team but goes "REEEE MY FUN I AM HAVING SO MUCH FUN SPENDING HALF MY TIME ON A GRAY RESPAWN SCREEN REEEE STOP HARASSING ME" that people get annoyed.
>>737427316sometimes it works and its funny when it does, of course you have to actually think of how it could work and not just try something completely random, but playing silly is really fun and my true objective in any match is to enjoy it
Fun doesn’t have to be a zero-sum game. In non-competitive modes especially, it’s entirely possible for everyone involved to enjoy themselves at the same time. The issue comes from players who approach these spaces with a purely competitive mindset, chasing the meta and optimizing every possible advantage.Trying to win isn’t the problem, that’s a natural part of any game. The problem is when winning becomes the only priority, to the point where a player is willing to use every possible lever at their disposal, including exploits. At that point, they’re no longer just participating, they’re effectively monopolizing the fun.Instead of contributing to a shared experience where everyone can enjoy the game, they’re extracting as much advantage as possible for themselves, even if it comes at the expense of everyone else’s enjoyment. What could have been a mutually fun environment turns into something one-sided, where only one player’s version of “fun” is allowed to exist.
>>737428937I guess it's different for team-based games like league, where one weak link typically guarantees the enemies getting fed and your entire team losing a lane. It's not as detrimental when a clinically retarded newnigger joins your team in an unranked FPS.
>>737429317Indeed, generally in unranked FPS the problem does become the extreme tryharders spamming medic vaccinator pyro phlog duos to shit on everyone, as well as the usual 5000 hours crowd who easily dominate every match playing with their best weapons and fully focused and just tell you to make up the experience difference in the 10 minutes before the match is over instead of admitting they're being vicious bitches for torturing casuals.
>>737427316The problem is that metafags are often the most braindead knuckledragging normalfags imaginable and are often wrong or out of date about what's meta.
>>737428401Nothing is stopping me from playing multiplayer games either, faggot. You can sit and spin while I play my off meta build. Don't like it? Go play a single player game LMAO
>>737428726>>737428726>most healing done>highest heals per secondYou were raiding with dogshit players (which is fine since wotlk is a piss-easy game).Rsham talents actually point really hard at haste by giving you 34% innate chance of critting on LHW, on top of the 25-45% you'd already naturally have. The more you have of one stat, the less value it has comparatively to other stats (besides a few exceptions).Additionally, the "choice" between haste and crit is negligeable since all the best piece of gear give haste AND crit, meaning that unless you were actively trying to NOT get haste, you were just playing kinda meta anyway.rsham overall is one of the most meta picks and as long as you can click the little color cubes and press bloodlust you'll fit right in
>>737429505so you admit you're ruining games on purpose?why do you faggots never admit that until you're pressed? you always pretend you're doing it for reasons beyond spite
>>737429912what is the point of giving choices for classes, skills, attributes, abilities, etc. if you're not allowed to choose anything but the accepted meta? how does building a character that performs slightly worse than the meta but is more enjoyable for the player ruin the game? oh it's because you're a retarded faggot and no one really cares what you have to say? okay thanks.
>>737431669>what is the point of giving choices for classes, skills, attributes, abilities, etc. if you're not allowed to choose anything but the accepted meta?because devs are fucking terrible at balancing their games? you can think the devs are shit without griefing other players as though its somehow their fault that there are strong builds and weak builds
>>737429580Gearing, geming and enchanting for crit gave me something like 70-80% crit rate, making LHW 100% crit rate. LHW had a fast enough cast time that getting haste beyond the GCD soft cap was an active detriment. Like I said, everyone gave me shit for not focusing 100% on haste and practically never using Chain Heal. Maybe everyone else on Eonar was just outright retarded, but that doesn't change the fact that my build was not only off meta, but also significantly better than my peers. P.S. You ignored the more important metrics of effective healing and overhealing. Chain Heal was garbage in Wrath because it had a very short jump range and wouldn't jump to targets with full HP, even if it meant it could reach another target that needed healing through them. Whereas the Ancestral Healing proc off of critting with LHW or HW always went to the lowest %HP target within a much wider range. When you're building for this, anything less than getting as close as possible to 100% crit rate is gimping yourself.
>>737427316Meta autists deserve to be bullied back to their train sets
>>737432672FISHING POLE SAMAI'M SORRY FOR MISJUDGING YOU
>>737432672this image doesn't even make sensehow is this guy 3x higher level than the next highest guy but also so bad at the game he's losing to the fishwizard?
>>737432794He simply got out (fucking) skilled.
>>737432794Because he clearly has a skill issue
It's a pretty straightforward concept.There are always going to be some options that are better than others. It's baked into every single game where you make a 'build' from assfaggots to card games. Sometimes, the experimentation is worth it, since some items or builds or cards are marginally similar or could be sidegrades. Other times, it is much more clear that it's something you shouldn't do, and attempting to do it is tantamount to throwing. It is like someone warning you that if you smack your hand with a hammer it's going to hurt and thr response is "OH YEAH, HOW DO YOU KNOW? HAVE YOU TRIED IT BEFORE?"This is fine in 1v1 but in multiplayer it is excessively annoying because the entire team is punished for it, and most games you can't even leave without incurring a personal penalty.
>>737432794Did you even read the text? He clearly states that he didn't do any research on the game and just blindly followed what someone else told him to do without any understanding. It's also very common to use extremes in arguments to punctuate the point.
Why are MMO players so autistic lolSorry I didn't read a guide, I'm just playing
>>737432980Some people play better with worse builds because they have a lot of experience playing them, but if you are his team mate you aren't gonna know that.If the guy at least vaguely is doing par for the team then starting a shit fight in chat over his build is just gonna up your chances of losing.There's heroes and villains on both sides
I simply stopped playing multiplayer games because people are insufferable no matter if you're playing the meta or not and no matter if you're winning or not. TF2 and CS before matchmaking were the most fun to be had in a multiplayer game.
>>737432269oh right that's why, not to make the game more enjoyable for a wider variety of players. game devs hate when more people can enjoy their games.
my favorite is when the casualbabs use the line "optimizing the fun out of the game"as if they are the arbiters of what is and is not "fun"as if playing optimally is objectively "not fun"
Metafags literally ruin every game.I even see people doing that shit on Mario Kart. Get a fucking grip.
>>737433103It's the non-autists that read the guides though, because they don't care enough and/or lack the focus to look into the game mechanics and options available in order to make an informed decision on their own.
>>737427316There is a reason why i'm not playing online games at all. Vidya time is "me time" and i want to play a game at my own pace. That means if i want to stand around and look at a chair for 10 minutes i will do just that and i don't want anyone to tell me to hurry up. Just like i don't want anyone in my game that impedes my progress. But most importantly i don't want the game(or the players) punishing me for playing my favorite class fantasy. If i want to play a sword/board warrior i don't want anyone to tell me i should switch to axes because they are just better or that ARs suck ass and i need to use SMGs.Besides all that being EU is a curse. You have to play with everyone from Ireland to Moscow and from Finland to Morocco. People either don't have a mic, if they do they don't speak english and if they do speak english it's basically incomprehensible gibberish.>no mic at all and probably blasting music so completely oblivious>open mic he doesn't know is open>open mic he doesn't care is open>voice activation that is too sensitive and picks up the fan>voice activation that is too strict and constantly cuts off>doesn't speak english and starts talking over in his language>blasting music through the mic but never talksI'd love to get into another MMO but the communities that tend to play MMOs are not people i want to spend any time with. Both, the sweaty parsers and the 50 year old schizo cat ladies.
>>737434295Or the faggots in WoW crying about being "gatekept" when they get rejected from a pug for having grey parses and shit gear, as if they are entitled to a spot in any pug they want
>>737427316>Playing online multiplayer>Convince yourself that the pixels represent real people>Convince yourself that beating them means you archived something>Convince yourself you have worth>Get addicted to the feeling>Stuck playing an inferior gaming experience>Trapped by your own misfiring neurons>Playing the exact same game ad nauseamSingleplayer chads keep winning, keep wasting your time multiplayer cucks lmao. Who cares you play the same map the same way for thousands of hours, right? You're beating "real people" so you can feel accomplished. What a loser lol.
>>737434341>Play mario cart>Make a car that has zero speed>Refuse to learn the maps or techniqyes>Get last place every round>WOOOOOW FUCKING METAFAGS OVER HERESometimes there is no boogeyman and it really is just a skill issue
metafags are dullards at worst but i've seen it personally that the worst for-funfags will call for your family to get skinned alive if you just whisper that they're being a touch ineffectivewhats important is that you are willing to experiment and figure things out on your own while learning from mistakes, instead of just copying everything you see online or disregarding the people you play with. a lot of speedrunners miss out on things because they don't experiment and most for-funfags don't realize that the game is more satisfying when they win more when they finally find the solution to their terminal loss problem
>>737434550>be spirit trapped in flesh>convince yourself that the physical realm is real>stuck being limited by "life" and dependant on materialmao
>>737429912>so you admit you're ruining games on purpose?cry about it
>>737427316I do kind of miss when meta information wasn't immediately discovered and instantly spread across the net.I played age of conan and went bear shaman (before anyone knew it was any good) this was around the time people discovered dps gem stacking and just rampantly one shotting each other in pvp, I always liked playing more defensive characters that can counter glass canons in mmo pvp so I built my bear shaman for defensive passives, invuls, and went full defensive gems which basically had cost nothing because everyone only wanted DPS gems.I ended up being able to beat every single top pvper on my server without even trying at the kheshatta dueling pit and was constantly accused of hacking to the point top guilds started fighting over who wanted to recruit me and I was fed so much free raid gear it was silly, then I quit after my sub lapsed.
Is this even a problem these days, the MMO experience has become so insular with everyone just doing stuff with their own group and never stopping to interact with anyone outside of it.
You can "play however you want" in a single player game where your decisions don't affect other players.
>>737433030If you're lvl 30 in a moba when someone else is 2 you're almost invulnerable to them
>>737435106It demonstrates a fundamental misunderstanding of the subject matter where someone who doesn't even play mobas saw the OP image, got massively butthurt and took it as a personal attack, and made a 'rebuttal' picture despite not even playing those games.It's hilariously on brand.
>>737435040And I can play however I want in a multiplayer game where my decisions affect other players. I will ruin your experience. You'll lose because of me, I will enjoy the match and you will cry about it.
>>737432547Overheal is not a metric anyone gives a shit about, it was a retarded boomerism that died off just like the concept of tank healersYour build wasnt better, you were just playing with retards and looking at in game meters instead of real dataWe have logs for just about every raid uploaded and far better sims. There arent mystery secret builds that are better
>>737432794>How is he losing even though his number is biggerMetafags really aren't human
>players complain about overly restrictive meta>someone discovers stupid meme strat that’s actually viable >players complain about how it “ruins the meta”>devs nerf it to the ground>players complain about overly restrictive meta
>>737435897Over healing and effective healing are pretty important metrics for identifying shitters.
>>737436103Doesn't matter what the meta is, someone will complaing regardless. But one of them will still be easier to stomach in the long run, and that almost never is the stupid meme strat.
>>737428008>you must stay in your assigned lane, we didn't anticipate you playing our game "wrong".
>>737432794>How the fuck does paper beat rock?!? Paper can't beat rock!
>>737428008>STR wizards
>>737432794Fishpole staff has the big catch active ability, you can pull a target towards you based on your strength modifier, with +2 being the minimum for human sized targets. While you're in the air the game counts you as 'falling' so you take true damage based on the time it takes to land. Wizards can cast slow on you just before reeling you in to extend this and chunk or even one shot regardless of level.
>737435718>heh, I'm gonna be a retarded nigger and you can't stop me :^)
>>737436103Reminds me of TF2 MVM mode, years of strict metal where not having the exact loadout the spreadsheet demands would result in a kick, then the gas passer comes out and it gets reviled for being good.
>>737428291NO! If you aren't looking up guides on how to build your character and the optimal equipment that you HAVE TO WEAR then you don't deserve to play! Everyone knows that the fun of RPGs is in following another person's build instructions and doing everything your guild leader tell you. Obviously.
>Be me>Like magic>Like fighting with swords>Battlemage is an uncommon but recognized archetype in fantasy>Make a martial+magic character, he uses legitimate ingame mechanics like self-enchanting and debuffing spells and lifesteal while using melee attacks for main DPS>Have fun>"NO YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE A PURE WARRIOR WHOSE MOVES LOOK LIKE LATENCY LAG BECAUSE YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO ANIMATION-CANCEL FOR 12.3% MORE DPS AND ALSO NEED TO USE BERSERK TO HEAL 50% HP PER SECOND SO YOU CAN NEVER DIE AND WE SHOULD ALL PLAY WARRIOR SO NONE OF US CAN EVER DIE AND WE ALL SPEND 25 MINUTES DUELING UNTIL SOMEONE DISCONNECTS BECAUSE WE'RE ALL BRAZILLIAN AND WE SHOULD DO THIS UNTIL THEY PATCH IT">I don't want to do that, that doesn't sound like it looks cool or interesting or lets me roleplay, it doesn't even sound fair in PvP beca->"I WILL POST A MEAN COMIC ABOUT YOU ON FOURCHANNEL WHERE I AM MOST CERTAINLY A LONGTERM USER"
Almost everyone misses the point of that image. The people "telling him how to play" aren't even metafagging. Saying that a strength item does literally nothing on a character that uses INT for damage in this hypothetical game is not metafagging, it's just basic game mechanics, but the wizard reddit fag immediately invents the worst possible person when anyone points out how retarded he is being. The wizard essentially has no items but is calling it a "build". The hypothetical here is not an off-meta player it's someone that doesn't understand the game at all getting mad when people point out the most basic things about how it works. When this happens in games the "meta assholes" usually start by just trying to give basic advice or ask if the player needs help because it looks like someone that picked up the game for the first time 5 minutes ago, then the shitter explodes on everyone and runs back to their favorite site afterwards to write a blog about how toxic everyone was to them.
>>737429104>noo, you have to play worse to make it fun for everyone elseplaying my best is what makes it fun. I only play competitive games, even unranked, to win. if you aren't trying your best, don't play with me.Hell, I only play cooperative games to win. If I'm playing a game like PEAK with a friend, and they knock me off on purpose, then I'm not playing that game with them anymore. Simple.
>>737437603I get that point and I've seen retards like that myself, ones that join as DPS in a raid and literally have pure healer equipment and deal 10% of the DPS that's considered viable. Problem is that picture is being used by an average /v/ poster, which means it's used against any and all deviation from the meta.>How do you even have fun it with suboptimal stats or strat?OP knows this. otherwise he wouldn't have wrote that. He's clearly trolling, yes, but he's trolling by mimicking an existing sentiment.
>>737437603In that case it's a bad image that doesn't accurately portray anti-meta sentiment
>>737437603>>737438132Something else to consider is that the transgender brazillian who made that picture unironically resorts to using the nanny state admins as a means of punishing retards for not understanding the game. They may be retards, but the mere sentiment of going "Government, help!" over such concerns is repulsive, so it gives further reason to believe those using this image are disingenuous scum.
>>737427316Reject competitive gamesEmbrace party games
>>737437603>Saying that a strength item does literally nothing on a character that uses INT for damage in this hypothetical game is not metafaggingFish pole staff uses STR for the reeling check, can be directly targeted, and the target gets damaged and stunned when it hits the wizard's Wall, depending on the travel distance. After that, you chain that stun into Stasis while your entire team kills the pulled enemy. And with enough skill, you can chain it into another Wall.
>PvP with """nonmeta""" build>Get hate tells from defeated retards using arena builds in battlegrounds and wPvP instead of roaming solo buildsI still can't believe niggas this fucking stupid existed when WoW actually had build variety and broke 2200.
>>737438273You know anon I really don't think that's true.
>people who play mobas/mmos immediately understand this kind of player and how having one on your team is worse than a 4v5 since their laner is getting gigafed>people who don't play mobas make 20 different "WOW you metasheep don't know about the new sleeper wizard fishing rod build wait you actually play mobas LMAO" posts and imagesWhy is it like this?
>>737438461There were never really any real build variety in WoW
>>737427316>tryhard metafag seething cause his autistic brain prevents him from dressing his character how he likes and fully enjoy a playstyle without a wiki page open
>>737439173mobas suck dick and they're a vestigial remnant of the bygone pre-social media era of the internet, where talking to people around the world justified playing a horrendously tedious game.
yes when i play a video game i want to read a wiki and have people exactly how i have to play and never experiment or learn on my own
What's the point of having build options in team games?
meta only matters if you're playing ranked or in a tournament settingdo whatever you want otherwise but if you're playing with other players you should at least be attempting to play the objective instead of straight up throwing. meme builds or strategies can work as a wildcard or if you're so much better than your opponent that they don't know how to respond to youthis is just another reason why 5v5 games suck total ass for casual play. do 1v1s or with 10+ on each side
>>737432672pretty muchimagine googling the most op build because you are to retarded
>>737438658Well then there is no hope for a civilized resolution with you.
>>737427316Funny how sweats ruined the entire genres, and now they have to babysit trannies. Fucking lmao.
>>737439510A lot of games now are just 'one build' games that punish you severely for not doing the one thing and its hard to spot them until its too late and forty hours of your life is already wasted. Video games are so fucking gay now I'm going back to tabletops. I can't even comprehend the logic behind wasting millions of dollars designing and making all this stuff just for 90% of it to be completely superfluous and vestigial.
>>737427316Full on meta slaves and full on anti meta special snowflakes both suck and the actual solution is to have some level of moderation and let people do what they want as long as they arent actively ruining the fun you or other people who youre supposed to work or play with are having. Think of it as the difference between a raid taking a extra 5 minutes vs. the 8th wipe of a run because someone wont switch.
>>737435718Based beyond fucking belief
>he can’t have fun without a pre-established metaIs the joke that this says more about you than anybody else?
can someone use ai to make this into a food analogy so i can understand it thanks
>>737438461I think that mainly comes down to how drastically different arena play is compared to 1v1/duelseven more so when consumables and unbalanced trinkets work in non instanced pvp so it throws a lot of "high end" pvpers off when they run into it.
>>737439173Because moba players aren't people, and we give you the benefit of the doubt in assuming you're not one. And even though we know you are, we are so utterly polite and nice that we pretend we're oblivious so you can save some face until you in your sheer foolishness just announce it the same way your delinquent nephew announces that he's gay during your daughter's birthday dinner.
>>737428162>Nobody is having fun playing something objectively uselessI just remembered that kid who pwned all those Smash tourney fags by playing Steve. I dont follow actual fighting or other games it surely this has happened in other series right?
>>737440047During a Hell's Kitchen competition, Stefan thinks to offer Gordo Ramsay a plate of 250 day fermented goat eyes that have been rotting in the sun. The entire blue team tells him not to do this as it is not only inedible and doesn't match the rules of the competition, being make Gordo the best cheeseburger they can, but will also mean they will all lose the competiton and have to do a penalty.Stefan's rebuttal is they just don't know true food culture from his homeland of Bosnia and Gordo will appreciate it. The blue team then proceeds to lose and have to shovel 50 metric tons of cow manure to fertilize the field.
>>737440047Metafags would rather eat hyper giga horse sperm protein powder shakes 6 times a day instead of enjoying grilling a nice steak for protien because its more fun and tastes better? I used my brain though sorry
>>737440047the wizard is a mcdonald burgerthe other guy is the steak
>>737432269Even if a game is well balanced alot of people will still gravitate to a "meta", most people don't like to experiment and if it doesn't work well it's your own fault and most people hate responsibility.
>play off-meta character>metaslaves refuse to play against you and immediately DC because "it's not good practice"
>>737432672fucking kino based
>>737438071You’re kind of arguing against something I didn’t say. I never said people should “play worse.” Trying your best isn’t the issue.The point is about priority. There’s a difference between playing well and treating every non-competitive environment like it’s a tournament where winning is the only thing that matters.If your idea of fun is always playing at 100% and only queuing with people who feel the same, that’s completely fine. But not everyone is there for that, especially in casual or unranked modes.The issue is when that mindset gets imposed on everyone else, because that’s where it starts turning into monopolizing the fun, where one person’s definition of fun overrides the shared experience.
>>737438392Sex with Gook-king
>>737440502thanks, wish op said this instead of whatever bullshit he wrote
>>737427316>skilless metafag trying to memea new generaton of proud wiki players is here, huh
>>737440443Im not sure the steve isnt metafagging argument works when his big win in tourneys that involves using a modded $200 controller to reliably cause a system glitch.
>playing Overwatch>enemy team has a guy playing Torbjorn - not a very good hero, not meta at all>he's genuinely playing extremely well>the rest of his team who are playing a metaslave poke comp are doing poorly>their tank with a negative KDR immediately starts flaming the Torbjorn in all chat accusing him of throwing by not playing a meta hero like Sojourn>said tank spends the entire game whining in the text chat and demanding we report Torbjorn>we win because we're essentially playing 4v5>our entire team proceeds to laugh at the tank in the post-game chatI'm too used to metafags using the meta as an excuse to blame their teammates for their own subpar performance.
>>737438392YANKIN HER HEAD SMOOVE OFF
Depends on the game.
This is why I run more "middle of the pack".Meta chasing is gay but so is being a fucking hipster.
>>737427316I remember playing Wargame Red Dragon. 10v10, we were on the backfoot pretty hard, opponents park pretty much their entire fleet off the shore near our first points. I proceed to start shelling it with artillery, quite a lot of it too. Immediately they start writing in chat:>arty on ship lmao noob>noob arty at navyAt this point the damage becomes evident, multiple ships including big ones are damaged, some small ones are sunk.>arty noob waste resource fuk uAt this point the flagship sinks.>FUK U ARTY NOOB >REPORT ARTY ON SHIPSAt this point they lost so much it turns into a 10v7 and we ended up just barely winning it despite it being an almost lost cause for 90% of the match. We won purely because I didn't follow the meta (arty really is bad against ships, just not when retards bunch up that many) and the opponents were such metafaggots they preferred to lose all their ships and seethe than accept the non-meta was working and retreat.
>>737439173Obviously because moba players aren't people and mobas suck dick
>Play a DPS class>Have to choose between the big dick 5000% nuke or partywide buff that gives 20% more damage>Buff is preferred to the nukeWhy are MMOs like this
>Guy brings Level 4 Gouf Custom to mining town>Actually fucks the enemy team in the ass with itWish he killed the support once but hey if it works it works
>>737436698I will enjoy the game i bought with my money by playing it however I want even if it's at the expense of my teammates. I don't care if you decided you can't have fun if I'm not playing the way you want me to. I will have fun and you cannot stop me from having fun. If me having fun prevents you from having fun, then that's your problem.
>>737442375Factually wrong.You will get kicked for choosing something that puts you lower on the DPS meter even if it is technically massively more beneficial to the party.
