>https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/miyamoto-says-he-wants-peachs-origin-story-in-the-super-mario-galaxy-movie-to-remain-canon-in-future-games/>“Until we made this film, then, we hadn’t decided on Peach’s origins, but now that we’ve made the movie, it’s become fun to expand on the character in various ways. Therefore, I’d like to adhere to the backstory established in the movie as much as possible in future games.”B-but the movies won't be canon!
That’s dumb.
>all Peach x Rosalina smut is now canonically incestHot
I'm sure this will totally change the fundamentals of 2D platforming and party games.
Whats the origin of her, i didnt watch the movie
Make her more of an untouchable goddess, so Mario can finally go back to Pauline without any remorse.
>>737427438Peach being a magical alien is stranger than than anything else but it’s ok
>>737427438Miyamoto a hack
>>737427730girlboss
>>737427637It totally changes the categorization of the porn I rub off to.
>>737427730Rosalina is her older sister and they're both star children that came from a comet.
>>737427730She's Rosalina's little sister, so the movie can be more like Frozen.
>>737427438Damn you boomers are right. This timeline is fucking dogshit. Its get worse every year
>>737427730
...Who cares what Princess Peach's backstory is?
>>737427438>B-but the movies won't be canon!I heard that during the development of *Super Mario Galaxy*, Rosalina was originally intended to be a relative of Peach. That idea was later scrapped.Is that true?
I fucking told you faggots that Nintendo has a history of adopting secondary canon into their games. But did you listen? Nooooooooo. I don't even know why you retards were bitching, this just makes all the Peach x Rosalina porn hotter.
>>737427929Americans. There's a whole obsession with lore and canon in the USA about everything. Probably from capeshitfags bad influence.
>>737427849or saint seiya asgard
Mario can't just be a fairy tale game with minimal story. We have to know that Princess Peach is an alien god. For some reason. This makes the games better, okay.
yeah, this kills the Paechio's ship for good. Unless Mario is also a starJesus he just has nothing to do with goddesses instead of cleaning their bathrooms for a headpat.
>fucks an alien
>>737428002shut the fuck up yurotard
>>737427438>Miyamoto went from having a melty over the Rosalina storybook introduced in Galaxy to now fully embracing the idea of expanding the Mario loreAmazing. Can't wait to find out that Wario and Waluigi are actually the third and fourth Mario brothers when the next movie comes out.
When the first Mario movie made a billion dollars I said this was the canary in the coal mine for Nintendo becoming a niggercattle shitslop company and you all kept insisting this wouldnt affect the games. Fuck you
>>737427730Really what it establishes is that she isn't even really human. I know that it is kind of moot given Mario's feats, but it is weird that she is now the same as some space goddess.
>>737427438Translation:>I want to retcon the galaxy games and Rosalina>how dare that faggot Koizumi put story in my franchise without my permission
>>737427561>>737427989As expected, the already degenerate yuritrannies have no problems with incest either, kek.
>>737427989>>737427561>Game of fookin' thrones More Futalina x Peach
her magical powers explains how she can survive bowser's spiked giant double cock
>>737428128>Wario and Waluigi are actually the third and fourth Mario brothers when the next movie comes out.They look like the worst cousins in the family.You know, they’re your relatives, but they’re really annoying.
>>737428243This really is just him explicitly retconing Rosalina's original backstory by sacrificing Peach's, a character he also never really gave a shit about but at least has control over.
>anons just talking about this retconning GalaxyWouldn't this retcon the entire thing about the Mario cast all just being stage actors that are actually friends?Also it would retcon the shit about Mario, Luigi, Wario, etc. being star children or whatever.Like damn Miggy is about to completely invalidate 30+ years of (admittedly light) lore building in the Mario universe because he wants things to line up with two movies.
Why do the mario movies bring out so many schizos?
>>737428128It's really not inconsistent, he don't really hate the idea of stories or anything like that, he just thinks games are games and should have gameplay first and foremost, with cutscences and stuff taking away from that, especially specifically within mario games.Since this is a movie where gameplay is well, nonexistent, and story is the main pillar, then we see him being okay with all this wacky shit here. Miyamoto is a simple guy, he's the hardcore "gameplay is king" gamer that /v/ wishes they were instead of a bunch of movie game fanatics that flood the board when a new movie game comes out.
>>737428243>>737427886He gonna ignore Rosalina's little brother?
>Miyamoto’s a hack who won’t let his characters evolve because of the Mario Mandate. Why can’t our characters have depth?>NOOOOOOO NOT LIKE THAT!
So it's also canon that Bowser is another annoying Jack Black character?
>>737428454Okay shillshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvRlMbKg6jY
>>737427730Apparently they are sisters, Rosalina kicked her out and send her somewhere far when she was a baby, with the Toads, because she had super powers too and it would be in a safe placeIts retarded? Yes, a lot, movie got a plat hole into the first minutes>Luma could send Peach and the others directly into the space to travel>Luma couldnt send Rosalina far far away into safety because ?????
>>737428521>NO NOT LIKE THATthis but unironically, why should fucking Illumination have more say over Mario games than Nintendo's own devs
>>737428521Now imagine a Gigachad saying this.
Oh no...
NOT MY HECKIN SPACE WAIFU!!! THAT'S THE ONLY THING I LIKED ABOUT SUPER MARIO GALAXY!!!
>>737428521>Star Furshit get screen timeThey were right, the movie is just mediocre.
>>737428451>Wouldn't this retcon the entire thing about the Mario cast all just being stage actors that are actually friends?this is a jokeeven if you really did take this seriously, it would just mean that the movie is also more acting, would make even more sense too since it's literally a movie.star children thing i dont think anyone even remembers that because the most hardcore of autists
And loonytroons are using this to say Peach is trans because Rosalina's story book mentions a brother, but no sister
>>737428598>Star Fox is revived>But it's movie FoxI'm going to vomit.
>>737428451The star children thing came from a game not even developed by Nintendo so I don't really consider it canon anyway
>>737428521>Miyamoto’s a hackYes.
>>737428598fucking monkey's paw
>>737428598I can't believe the lustpenis arc is canon...
My boy shiggy miggy doing what he does best. Making autists seethe.
>>737427438miyamoto really is senile now, please just stick the movies and theme parks
>>737428271>noooo you need to masturbate to porn with dicks in it!
>>737428598NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMIYAMOTO DONT YOU FUCKING DO IT
>>737427438Does this mean we can agree Mario and Luigi came from Brooklyn instead of flip-flopping every couple years?
>>737428451>the entire thing about the Mario cast all just being stage actors that are actually friends?In the full quote, Miyamoto draws comparison to stuff like Popeye, in how the character "change" to fit the cartoon.>If you're familiar with things like Popeye and some of the old comic characters, you would oftentimes see this cast of characters that takes on different roles depending on the comic or cartoon. They might be businessman in one [cartoon] or a pirate in another. Depending on the story that was being told, they would change roles. So, to a certain degree, I look at our characters in a similar way and feel that they can take on different roles in different games. It's more like they're one big family, or maybe a troupe of actors.This is especially obvious back in the early days where Mario could be a demotions expert in one game and a carpenter in another or how in Donkey Kong, Mario was the hero and Donkey Kong the villain only or Donkey Kong Jr. to make Mario the villain and DK the victim.
>>737427836isnt the whole mario cast including bowser star children anyway? like in the game lore.
Oh, what is fuck Daisy then? Have peach and Daisy not been related this whole time?
>>737428773>Super Mario is being influenced by the Minions studio>potentially Star Fox too since it got roped into the SMG movie>Zelda is influenced by Ubisoft open world games, and there's a Sony movie coming too though the visual team at least seems to be nailing it so far>Tomodachi Life is acknowledging nonbinary faggotry (cope about it just being localization all you want, they've talked about how they specifically consult with Nintendo Japan these days to get approval for everything)This is shaping up to be a very dark era for Nintendo fans who actually like games and not just salesfagging.
>girlboss peach is now canon>now Daisy truly serves no purposePoor girl.
>>737429046In Yoshi's Island DS, Star Children were children who had powerful stars in their hearts.Peach and Rosalina in the movie are literal star children, as in made of stardust
>>737429046Mario and Luigi are humans from Brooklyn New York
>>737429148Peach is a girlboss by necessity. Daisy will be a girlboss by choice.
>>737429046Sorta but like >>737428630 and >>737428719 said it's really obscure lore that wasn't made by Nintendo. Also in the case of the Galaxy movie it's star child as in they literally were born from space dust and are celestial beings or something.
>>737427438Holy shit it's so fucking overA movie to end all movies. And anon will try to convince you you were overreacting about how fucking and the movie was
>>737429134Nintendo learnt it can sell slop and profit. You lie in the bed you and your ilk made.
>>737428486They don't even have a family in the movie, they just spawned into existence in the same shitty rock planet, which I guess is enough to make them sisters
SPACE ALIEN PUSSY
>>737427438>things hard shift into incest yuri territory overnight>suddenly Miyamoto is now a storyfagInteresting.
>Peach is a star child>NOOOOOOOO MIYAMOTO YOU HACK!!!>Mario and Luigi are star children>Amazing lore!! Thanks Koizumi!
>>737427438>KOIZUMI!!! Stop putting stories and lore in our bing bing wahoo games!!!>Yaaasss Ilumination-sama! Everything you say is canon!The fuck is Miyamoto's problem?
>>737427438This means nothing, Peach isn't going to be using any star magic to free herself from Bowser in the next platformer. Who's invested in the characters or lore of the mainline Mario games to begin with?
What's he thinking right now?
>>737427836Whoa whoa whoa. She's not a Toad? She's a foreign occupier? That's fucked up. Mario, stop oppressing the Toads with an enforced foreign regime.
>>737429134In what way is Tomodachi not just a localization thing? The original Japanese just means other. It's for making genderless characters like robots. Genderless would have been the correct English translation but non-binary is technically also correct even if it has genderspecial baggage and was picked by the danger hairs at NoA for that reason.
>>737429430All according to keikaku.(TL: keikaku means plan)
He is laughing at us at this point
>>737428451>>737428630>>737429035It's specifically a Mario Bros 3 thing, but it's kinoEspecially the way the levels are visibly shitty props, like you can see where they're bolted to the walls or hanging from wires
can they grow giant futacocks with their star powers? that's the really important part.
>>737429430He's thinking of how his sick, upcoming 3D Mario title will make everyone forget this Illuminationslop.
>>737429430it's 11pm in japan so probably dreamingwonder how often nintendo staff working on these games dream about mario
>>737427438>But it's just a movie>But it will never be canon>Just pretend it doesn't existHoly shit where are these people now?
>>737429631Better provide, you chinese asshole. I'm not buying a Switch 2 without a Mario. Don't fuck with me.
>>737429430>A graduate from the Visual Concept Planning Department of Osaka University of Arts, Koizumi studied film, drama, animation and, to a lesser extent, storyboarding.[4][5] He had originally intended to become a film director but applied at Nintendo instead to pursue his goal of creating a kind of drama only experienced in video games. The company's close proximity to his university also played a role in his career choice.[4]ouch miyamoto really rubbing it in on this guy, eternally cucked
>>737429631>Mario is voiced by Chris Pratt in the new platformer
>>737429534Boomers out of touch. No wonder Miyamoto's late mentor found him a disappointment.
>>737429464It always starts with localizers going rogue, like it did with the Treehouse faggotry of the 3DS/WiiU era. The second they get to consult on games directly, it's fucking over.
>>737427438and the only way to do that is pretend that mario galaxy and all the other games never happened.peach is no longer in her 20s like mario. the roslaina back story is gone.she's now 10000s of years old and is an immortal cosmic entity. mario will live and die and his life will be a brief insignificant blip compared to peaches.bravo miyamoto you demented old cunt.
>>737429729I'll tell you where I am now. Playing PC games only
>>737429534>piche's right. Once critic stated they stabbed themselves with a pencil because the movie was so boring. Critics care more about trying to write their review as a piece of entertainment rather than writing a legitimate review.
>>737429227>>737429148Daisy being tomboy was unique...
>>737429842>Once critic stated they stabbed themselves with a pencil because the movie was so boring. >Critics care more about trying to write their review as a piece of entertainment rather than writing a legitimate review.He embellished his review but he's still correct
>>737428451Anyone who took this theory literally are retarded faggots. Miyamoto didn't mean they were all actors in universe. He meant that conceptually that's how he sees the cast. Not as people with a continued lore, but as a cast of characters they can use in whatever way they want. God I hate lorefags so much
>>737427438Wait... so this means that the Mario Brothers will be paired up with the Space Sisters...
>>737429902If you read his entire review it's like that throughout. He just wrote what he thought his readers wanted to hear, he barely mentions a single scene from the movie whatsoever. It reads more as a hitpiece about the younger generation than it does a movie review. It's clear he had no interest whatsoever in reviewing the movie itself.
>>737429807>mario will live and die and his life will be a brief insignificant blip compared to peaches.Don't worry, she can strip him of his humanity and force him to be reborn as a star child if it comes to that.
>>737429398Superman and other analoge use solar power?
Genuinely serious, when is Miyamoto going to finally die? This faggot old man has been ruining the Mario series bit by bit over the years with his retarded shit and enabling the mandate deniers.
>>737429430Miyamoto apparently went over Rosalina and Peach's backstory for the movie with him, so depends on if he's seen it or not.
>shitch poo flopping>shitendo making no games but comfy games for wh*te w*men>all their games are 80 dollar 7/10 games that get forgotten in a day>now the movie slop is gonna be canon and the only thing shitendo cares about>yet famitsu schizos defend them to their dying breathtendie xisters...we are the laughing stock of gaming....
I'm mostly disgusted that this probably means we're getting the movie designs and voice actors for the next Mario mainline game.
>>737430082Eric you lostGet out of my thread
>>737430109>and voice actorsAnon, they're not going to pay for Hollywood actors just to have them go wahoo
>>737430109Might as well. The guy who replaced Charles is fucking terrible. And the sooner we kill Toad's canon voice actor, the better.
>>737428918only closeted fags like yuritrannies look at dicks
How will they adopt the movie canon and Bananza canon together?
Mandate sisters... we keep getting monkey paw'd and fucked by Shigeru CHADmoto
>>737430082Japan and South Korea shouldn't back Ukraine.
>>737430185No. But they will pay for them to be in a more cinematic version of a Mario game complete with tons of cutscenes and story bits.
>>737430109>wanted design refreshes for the Mario characters for years>really liked the direction the MK World design adjustments were headed in>but there's a chance they get thrown out in favor of Illumination-inspired redesigns insteadif this happens then Nintendo's officially dead to me
>>737430223you're not very bright, are you?
Every time Peach appears she will look angry from now onNEVER FORGET WHO CALLS THE SHOT HERE MARIO, IT'S PEACH THE PERFECT GIRL, NOT YOU
Mario and Peach made for Futalina's morning star wands
>>737429464There are only two sexes and robots are mostly male (plus the noun robot/robô is masculine in both Spanish and Portuguese).It's NCL's fault.
>>737430082it's fucking pathetic. there's not a single good thing about this shitty company full of retards anymore.
OH YEAH HECKIN MOVIES LE HECKIN REFERENCES LE HECKIN GIRL BOSSESITS OKAY FOR SHITENDO TO DO ALL THIS BUT NOT MUH EVIL BOOGEYMEN COMPETITION CAUSE SHITENDO IS MY DADDY THAT CAN DO NO WRONG *plays the shitch poo while tyrone fucks my fat cow of a girlfriend*
>>737430313
>>737428018I really need to watch Saint Seiya whenever I get back into Shonen, I've mostly just been watching Mecha stuff because of Sonic
>>737429857It's ok she's racist now
>>737429842>>737429902>>737429990Even if the movie is bad, it doesn't mean critics are correct.their attack on Speed Racer proved they are not to be trusted
>>737430291Every game needs to be retcon to Peach saving Mario from Bowser from now on. This is Super Peach sisters, now.
>>737430345Thankfully in English we don't gender nouns.
>>737430386>Mecha stuff because of SonicMan of culture, I see?
>>737430386>mecha because of SonicHuh?
>>737429989Replace Luigi (already with Daisy) with Waluigi.
Do people actually let the words and opinions of executives, shareholders, producers and corporate entities as a whole determine what they're supposed to consider canon or not?
>>737430247Miyamoto isn't a chad. Time will vindicate us.
>>737430313It's her leg.
>>737430597Especially third legs
>>737430246Bananza Pauline is that Pauline's grand daughter so it wouldn't be that hard since the two would be pretty separate from each other timewise.
>>737430440This one was a recent discovery (https://xcancel.com/judy_totoya/status/2039683501415633331)But I started with Gundam because I heard the Colony Drop was a Reference to Char's Counterattack(I didn't skip straight to CCA I actually did watch all of 0079.Zeta and ZZ), I watched EVA cause I heard there were some references in SA2, Mecha Sonic in Sonic 2 gets his Mono-eye from Zeon Mobile suits. Sonic surprisingly has a lot of Mecha DNA.
>>737430559But for now, we bide our time and dilate.
>>737430428OK, gringx.
>>737428598So Star Fox canonically takes place at the same time in the same universe as Super Mario?
>>737428598Fox's next Smash design will look like this.( also DK makeover )
>>737430675>heard the Colony Drop was a Reference to Char's CounterattackI mean't the END of SA2 where Sonic and Shadow have to stop the Ark from crashing into Earth>Mecha Sonic in Sonic 2 gets his Mono-eye from Zeon Mobile suitshttps://xcancel.com/judy_totoya/status/1951147326879195321
>>737430630Stop sucking my leg, anon!
>>737430728>have to know what gender a brick is in order to talk about itlmao, what a shitty language
>Miyamoto spends his 40+ year career arguing against Mario characters needing lore or backstory>lets Jewllywood mess around with his characters>Now he wants their lore adapted into the gamesI don't even mind Peach being Rosalina's sister, but Miyamoto basically selling out pisses me off.NOW you want to explore Peach's backstory? Not 40 years ago when you created her? Not 30 years ago when Mario RPGs kicked off? Not 20 years ago when you gave Peach her own game? Only now that you got that Illumination money did you realize giving Peach a backstory was a good idea.
>>737430795You know it true.
>Thank you Mario!>But our princess is in another spaceship!
>>737430109But Nintendo doesn't work with SAG-AFTRA.
>>737430675Huh that makes sense, I guess there is a lot of mechas in sonic after all, but I didn't imagine that even stuff like that was taken from them. It's not mecha but you should read Please Save My Earth if you want the SA2 Experience, I cant say the plot is the game, but i mean a lot of the plot elements in SA2 were taken from it. And that aside it was an amazing story in its own right.
>>737430291Those proportions..That Thomas the Train Engine face..
>>737430520
>>737431083>That Thomas the Train Engine face..kek I can't unsee it nowIllumination is so fucking awful
>>737430254>Illumination-inspired redesignsAlready happened with DK, the president of Illumination is on the NoA board of directors.Everyone who was calling DK's old design outdated and stiff were coordinated plants trying to prop up the new design.No refunds.
>>737430771I didn't even know Mecha Sonic has a monoeye
>>737430801You learn by hearing adults talking.Ladrillo (sp)/tijolo (pt) is masculine because it ends with -o. But they are exceptions.
>>737428521from now on I will call all mario games movie games
>>737431149Fucking stupid is what it is.
>>737431117The DK redesign was for Bananza, and Meleandri is a director of NCL's Board of Directors, not NOA's.
>>737427438>Rosalina isn’t special>Peach is just a tomboy and star child all in one>SMG story no longer canon Go to bed grandpa this sucks
>>737430520>do people let the people responsible for the IP determine what's canon or not?
>>737431117Dumbass it's already been confirmed the movie DK comes from Bananza.
>>737430859I really truly think he just wants to spite Koizumi even after all this time. Him pushing for a DK redesign that vaguely evokes his arcade/94 design shows that he WILL hold a grudge and WILL see retribution through, no matter how long or petty. Oh yeah, fun fact, Koizumi also came up with the three Goddesses for the Zelda series. And, huh, would you look at that: they got soft-retconned over time too!>>737431117The design was meant to debut in Bananza, but the game got pushed back to be a near-launch Switch 2 game due to it not performing well on Switch 1 hardware.
>>737430764No you retard the movie explicitly says he's from another universe.
>>737430859Funnily enough, Miyamoto did say that not wanting to deal with lore and backstories for the games is one of the reasons they didn't make movies for so long.>“Because we don’t know what kind of game we’ll make next with our characters, having too many character settings would become a constraint. I’m fine with being bound by the gameplay, but I don’t want to be bound by having created a story, which has been the reason for not making movies for many years.
>Anti-mandateniggers be like: Nah mario doesnt need to have story or lore, youre a a schizo lol xD just play the games like us normalfag secondaries>Miyamoto opens his decrepit hole up and declares movieshit canon>OH MY HECCIN BASED MEEYERMOTOW HAHA TAKE THAT MANDATE SCHIZOS MARIO WAS ALWAYS ABOUT THE LORE HAHAI'm tired boss.
>>737431310>spite the guy so much he made him his successorfucking retard
>Snoys meltdown over Mario loreTommorow is going to be fun lol, really can't withstand tomodachi huh?
>>737427438Fixed your movies.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NAp0Ep5gfE
>>737431235Skill issue.
>>737431414>he made him his successor
>>737428115Mario X Pauline was always better anyway, look at those tits!
>>737431525Who's been running 3D Mario for the last decade?
>>737429572SMB3 > SMBWcope all you want snesers
>>737431117>>737431248Does NOA even have a board?
>>737431117DK's design has more to do with Miyamoto wanting him to look more like his design than Rare's.
So Mario is now both an isekai protagonist and a shimaidon protagonist
>>737431525Do you even know how Nintendo is run? Every single executive has successors, and they pick them.Miyamoto chose Koizumi and Aonuma as his successors personally. Koizumi also has his own successors and so on.
>donkey kong changed after the movie >Mario changed after the movie>peached changed after the movieHow many sheckels is this guy receiving to make his own legacy as woke as possible the golem way? Nintendo barely looks like a japanese company anymore.
>>737431310I really think you guys buy way too hard into the miyamoto is for some reason angry with koizumi thing, and the whole "koizumi is the most woeful and pitiful person at nintendo everyone hates him and is working to undermine him"it's just weird
>>737427438https://www.mariowiki.com/MarioWiki:CanonicityEVERYTHING OFFICIAL IS CANON!
>>737431294>>737431294>>737431248The point is that the 'redesign' appeared in the Super Mario Bros. Movie first, regardless of when it was intended and pushed by Miyamoto himself with the help of Chris. To >>737431248, that's actually worse, he's at the source. Don't be surprised if he actually starts consulting on designs for future characters or even older characters.
Daisy will be Peach's cousin and another star child.
>>737431939Already is.
>>737431579Non canon sloppa
>>737431939She was born from a brown dwarf instead of a white comet.
>>737431857nintendo died when iwata died. Reggie dipped out and then ((((they)))) pressured senile miyamoto to shit all over the brand (and zelda with the next movie)The only thing that the company is being held up by is cultists like the famitsu faggots who will attack and spam report you for attacking shitendo no matter how much shitendo rapes their past franchises
>>737431939Okay but how big is her cock?
This pisses off rosalinafags, so I support it.
>>737431314So they do happen at the same time in the Mario Cinematic Universe. The MCU if you will
>>737430251They didn't even want the actual mario movies to be cinematic and have story bits
>>737432086Truly sad to see jews ruining yet another foreign culture. Great awakening can't come soon enough
>>737427438I AM YOU AND YOU ARE ME AND WE ARE ALL TOGETHER!
>>737432086Eric, I will not repeat myself again. You lost. Get out.
>>737432092Negative.
>>737432086>no matter how much shitendo rapes their past franchisesWhat matters isn't the games. What matters is getting revenge against the PS1/2/4 in sales, despite insisting for years that Nintendo doesn't compete with Sony or Microsoft anymore.
/v/tards were unironically thinking Nintendo wouldn't adapt some of the movie shit into the games
>>737432079>>737431939Does she have cat cock?
>>737427438Mario Galaxy got fully Sonic 06'dThe circle is now complete
>>737432119*Nintendo*NCUThe next movies are Donkey Kong in 2028 and Mario Odyssey in 2029.I think Kirby can appear in DK because of the 1980s lawsuit.
>>737431294Wrong. The whole game was developed with the original Rare DK just like Mario Kart World
>>737432165I've got a hole in me pocket :)
Interesting stuff from the interview>Actually, regarding the critics' reviews for the first film, I kind of thought, "Fair enough, I can understand that." But I figured it would be different this time around… yet they were even harsher than last time, which I find quite strange (laughs). We stepped out of our genre and are working hard in hopes of invigorating the film industry, so it's very peculiar to me that the people whose job is to hype up the film industry are reacting so negatively.>Normally, you take the English version and localize it. That’s the case for about 70 or 80 countries this time, too—they are all localizations. However, we took a slightly unique approach with the Japanese version. For the first film, we wrote the Japanese script from scratch and developed it simultaneously with the English version. This time, we took the completed English script and rewrote it in Japanese. In other words, we aren't just localizing it; we are creating a dedicated Japanese version.Interesting... I wonder how this will really change things.>In games, the primary focus is on the player's gameplay, so we can't delve too deeply into character development. But in a movie you can tell a much richer story, so we established a broad policy of focusing heavily on character depiction.>Miyamoto: I have always maintained that the story of "Super Mario" is not simply a tale of Mario defeating the villain, Bowser. I view it as the "Super Mario Troupe." Bowser is an actor in this theatrical troupe who plays the role of the villain, but depending on the play, there's always a possibility they could become friends.>Therefore, I didn't want to make Bowser a completely hateful, one-dimensional villain. I wanted him to be viewed as an actor playing the bad guy among Mario's friends.He brought this up again
>>737432086Reggie was not your friend, he tried to keep JRPGs off the wii
>>737432316No it wasn't. There's beta screens of the Switch 1 build with the same model and interviews that the design change was a very early choice to make him more expressive since he takes up more of the screen than Mario.
>>737432298>lawsuitCan King Kong and some Fire Emblem clone from a PSX JP, appeared too.
>>737432443Are you braindead, nigga?
>>737430505There's been this japanese woman showing up in my tl who draws hentai of Waluigi and Daisy
>>737432298Fuck that, keep it strictly Mario and Mario-adjacent and don't pull another Fox with any future movies, crossovers have completely lost their appeal because they keep happening every fucking time.
Does this mean that Daisy is also going to turn out to be some alien stardust?
>>737432478Can you prove me wrong?
>>737432390>it's very peculiar to me that the people whose job is to hype up the film industry are reacting so negatively.He actually called critics shills.
>>737432548Yes I can you subhuman your mental gymnastics are made up bullshit when there are screenshots of the Rare DK in Bananza
>>737431921People misinterpret the storybook thing to create this narrative of an epic war between Koizumi and Miyamoto. It's mostly because that one headline "sneaking stories past Miyamoto" and Miyamoto noting that approached Koizumi early on for Galaxy 2 to decide that it didn't need a storybook. Conversely, nobody read the interviews to know that the story-sneaking was for other games and that Koizumi actually did show the storybook to Miyamoto directly.
>>737432390>Miyamoto: Because we never know what kind of games we'll make next, having too many rigid character backgrounds can actually become a hindrance. Being bound by gameplay mechanics is fine, but not wanting to be restricted by established storylines was honestly the reason I avoided making movies for so many years.>So, until we made this movie, we hadn't decided on things like her origins. But now that we are making films, I've started to find it really fun to expand the characters in different ways. Therefore, I would like our future games to align as closely as possible with the lore we've created in the movies.But the issue of it still being restrictive on the games is still there... Kinda dick move to just go, "well since I'm not working on the games anymore i don't care about the new devs freedom like i did when I was working on it"This one is a long one but interesting>Miyamoto: Up until now, within the video game medium, we’ve operated under a pretty strict rule: do not mix characters from different IPs.>I believe Walt Disney was extremely particular about the fact that "there is only one Mickey Mouse in the world." >However, if there were two park attractions side-by-side, he inevitably had to establish a rule like, "He cannot appear in both places at once," just out of necessity. In a similar vein, Nintendo hasn't allowed its various game characters to intermingle.>I consider Nintendo to be the "Nintendo Troupe." We have a variety of talents in this troupe. We come up with a game mechanic, and then cast the character that best suits it. That’s why, when creating a Nintendo game, we usually start with the mechanics without knowing if it will become a "Mario" game, a "Zelda" game, or something entirely new. We decide later, "This is better suited for Zelda," or, "We should create a new character for this."cont'd
>>737432638cont'd>The exception is "Smash Bros." The reason Nintendo characters mingle there is out of necessity, so after much thought, we established the premise that they are actually toys. It's a toy box filled with Nintendo characters. Because it's a toy box, we said crossover was okay only for Smash Bros.>However, recently we made another exception: Pikmin. We decided it's okay for them to mingle with any character.Since we broke the rule with one character, I figured that as we expand into movies, we could loosen the restrictions a bit on how and which talents from the Nintendo Troupe might make guest appearances or co-star.>That doesn't mean "anything goes," though. Because this movie's theme is "Galaxy," Illumination proposed, "When you think of an excellent pilot in space, you think of Fox.">If this had simply been a licensed-out project, I probably would have said "NO" the moment they asked. But since we are making it together, I thought, "Maybe it could work." From there, we actively brainstormed about what kind of appearance would make fans the happiest. So, we aren't just throwing every "Star Fox" character in there—Fox is the only one making a proper appearance.>My personal favorite guest appearance, showing up bold as brass, is the Pikmin (laughs).>We used to always put Pikmin in the margins, but this time they are right in the center. We're moving forward with a "Pikmin are everywhere in the world" strategy, so please keep an eye out for them (laughs).
>>737432608So post them.
>>737432638This adds up about the games, Splatoon's core mechanics were originally a Mario concept with heavy Sunshine inspirations before they decided it should be a completely new thing, thus giving us squid kids.
Look how they massacred my boy. American trannies ruin everything
>>737431579This has always been the case, yes.
>>737432724Why don't you post >There's beta screens of the Switch 1 build with the same model You subhuman tranny. Oh you can't because its made up bs
>>737432756Rareware been dead since 2002
>>737428918Futa gods keep winning
>>737431579Maybe on planet retard
>>737432460>King KongNot even Nintendo.>Fire EmblemUnrelated with the lawsuit, so improbable but not impossible.>>737432484OK Lord Chairman of the Royal Crossover Control Board.
>>737428128Yoshi is the 3rd Mario Bro
>>737432814Okay, here you go.Here's the web page I got it from too.https://www.nintendo.com/us/whatsnew/ask-the-developer-vol-19-donkey-kong-bananza-part-2/Still waiting for yours.
>>737432835Just like your sexlife but you still breath
>>737432638>>737432716What a retarded rule that they doen't even adhere to
>>737432753That's not how I remember it. I remember it was originally rabbits, then Miayamoto said "this sucks, either think of something else or we're just going to default into make this into a mario game instead of a new ip", and then they thought a lot harder and eventually came up with squids. Kinda funny how obvious it seems in hindsight, given the ink but interesting how so much thought has to go into something that eventually seems like it was simple to think of from the outside.
>>737432897>Still hasn't drawn Rosa in a long timeit's over
>>737428287My new favorite edit of the Coffin Andy Leyley meme
>>737432956Are you braindead, tranny? There is no face
>>737432987Praise the lord
>>737428056Don't forget Mario and Luigi are now reincarnated Lumas, and with Rosalina essentially being the Lumas' mom, that would make Mario an aunt fucker
>>737432609People misinterpret a lot of things Nintendo says to create this narrative of an epic war. Them poking fun or problem-solving becomes>ACTUALLY Miyamoto hates Koizumi>ACTUALLY Miyamoto hates Rare>ACTUALLY Tanabe hates Retro/IS>ACTUALLY they killed YokoiThis is exactly why Nintendo doesn't explain things, because they know an army of autists and schizos is foaming at the mouth to deconstruct every little word and action Nintendo does
>>737427989/v/'s too young to remember when a pc minigame made mario's voice canon
>>737432987Guess i'll basically just post the whole interview>◾ Why did "Galaxy" become the theme of this movie?>Interviewer: This film is once again packed with various elements from the series. Could you tell us how you decided on the title "Galaxy" and why you chose "Super Mario Galaxy" as the foundation for the main story?>Miyamoto: Even while we were making the first movie, there was a vague vibe of, "The second one is going to be Galaxy, right?" We hadn't officially decided to base it on Super Mario Galaxy just yet, though…>In the first film, there’s a scene where Peach looks up at the sky and briefly mentions the galaxies. Because of that, I had a premonition that we might go to the galaxies next. But when the scriptwriters explicitly suggested using "Galaxy" as the title, it really clicked for me: "Ah, I see.">The video games set in the Mushroom Kingdom progressed sequentially with Mario 2 and Mario 3, but we hadn't clearly decided where to expand the axis of the movies next. When they suggested "Galaxy," I realized, "Right, it's about the stage.">In the first film, Mario and the gang traveled from the New York stage to the Mushroom Kingdom stage. We also incorporated Donkey Kong's jungle, creating a rather excellent theatrical stage for the Super Mario Troupe.>To expand on this further, broadening it horizontally like Odyssey didn't make as much sense to me as expanding it vertically into the "Galaxy." That made perfect sense. So, we decided to unify it under the Galaxy theme.>So, first came the natural progression that expanding Peach's story would lead to the Galaxy. Then came the realization that incorporating various elements from "Mario" games released after the original (Super Mario Bros.) would allow audiences to enjoy the all-star cast of the Nintendo Troupe. That was the sequence of how it came together.
>>737427438This is unironically a Good thing because the movies actually want to make Mario and Peach unashamedly romantic partners instead of whatever the fuck they are in the gamestheir scenes together are very cute, i hope we can see more of that in future gamesPeach owes Mario sex
>>737432756The biggest problem with the Bananza design is that it's a very third-assed attempt to evoke the classic DK design. MKW does a bit better with the design but it still needs adjustments. They should just go all-in on recreating his DK94 design if the idea is to evoke classic DK again.
>>737432753>>737432971I think Captain Toad also started as a Zelda project, and they pivoted to him specifically because he can't jump (due to the backpack).
>>737433092>◾ How did you pack in all the Easter eggs?>Interviewer: I felt that there were even more Easter eggs and instances of fan service packed into this film than the last one. How did you balance selecting what to keep regarding the story and the little references within a limited runtime?>Miyamoto: This is entirely thanks to the power of Illumination. The people at Illumination, including the director, know "Super Mario" even better than we do.>Another factor is how they make films using small, compartmentalized units. For example, if you gather thirty 3-minute units, you get a 90-minute movie. This is very similar to how I make games. They don't create unnecessary things, but they also hardly throw anything away.>So, they constantly swap and rearrange these units, packing them with incredible density. That is Illumination's technique.>Furthermore, I’ve long wanted to make an animated film that avoids the pitfall of parents just sitting there out of duty because they brought their kids, or where the parents are deeply moved by the story while the kids are running around the theater bored. In that sense, I think it was a great decision to ensure it wraps up in a brisk 90 minutes without giving the audience a moment to catch their breath.
>>737428454We are all Autistic in some ways or others
>>737427438all the women in these games are just princesses. who cares? boring ass characters
>>737427438>Until we made this film, then, we hadn’t decided on Peach’s originsWhat a bunch of horseshitWe knew she had a king dad
>>737433172> What were your impressions upon seeing the completed film?>Interviewer: You've seen it countless times during production, but how did you feel when you finally saw the completed film?>Miyamoto: Whenever I speak about game design at seminars or similar events, I always say, "The hardest part of making a game is that as you make it, you lose your objectivity.">A person playing a game for the first time will never have the same perspective as someone who has been deeply immersed in its creation for three years. I always tell game developers to be careful about that. But when it comes to movies, I'm still an amateur. So the more I watched it, the more I got sucked into it, and I was hyper-aware of trying to figure out how to maintain my objectivity.>However, just like with games, there is a point where it's mostly complete, and you feel, "We have enough good material here." That usually happens when you're about 70% done. I thought that aspect was very close to game development, and Chris (Meledandri) felt similarly; we both hit that "I think this is going to work" realization around the exact same time.\Interviewer: Once again, could you share what you believe can only be achieved in a movie?>Miyamoto: There are so many things, aren't there?>In a game, if something doesn't react the way a player expects and goes off in an absurd direction, the player may not be able to follow along. But a movie has the power to subvert expectations, which I think is one of the most enjoyable aspects of film. Beyond that, it’s the ability to convey inner feelings and emotions to a certain degree through dialogue.>There’s a scene where Peach calls out, "Mario!" and Mario enthusiastically runs up, extending a hand and saying, "Handshake!" You absolutely cannot do that in a game.>After saying "Handshake," to express the awkwardness of the moment, he says, "Well, maybe I held back a little."cont'd
>>737428598>Everybody thinking Fire Emblem will be announced next after Splatoon RaidersStar Fox: “Can’t let you do that Fire Emblem!”
>>737433294last bit>Also, during production, you rarely get to see the film on a giant screen with full Dolby sound. You are usually watching unfinished versions on a TV screen, often with watermarks over the footage.>So, forgive me for patting ourselves on the back, but during the final preview screening, I was actually quite moved.>Surprisingly, because it features layers of memories from the things we’ve been building over the past 40 years, while I didn't exactly tear up, I frequently found myself feeling a little flutter of happiness every time a character appeared.>So, for the people who have grown up playing Nintendo games, they share those same memories, and I am absolutely certain they are going to enjoy it.
>>737433172>The people at Illumination, including the director, know "Super Mario" even better than we do.
LISTEN HERE YOU SNOYS.I DO NOT CARE WHAT NINTENDO DOES WITH PEACH.MARIO HAS MOVED ON FROM HER.MAREACH WILL BE RETIRED.
>>737433315>Fox: "I'd look right into her fat ugly face and say bitch, you're fired!"
>>737433172>The people at Illumination, including the director, know "Super Mario" even better than we do.I know this is probably riffing off of how Illumination suggested stuff like Wart but Nintenbros... we lost...>Another factor is how they make films using small, compartmentalized units. For example, if you gather thirty 3-minute units, you get a 90-minute movie. >So, they constantly swap and rearrange these units, packing them with incredible density. That is Illumination's technique.Suddenly the complaints about these movies' pacing/storytelling make a lot more sense.
>>737433398he needs to be put into a fucking home oh my GOD
>>737430859i dont think any of you understand the pride or feeling of acomplishment some creators have to see their products reach the big screen, specially when they started as something else like a book or a game. add to that how not only he personally like the movies but also how each one of them will rack 1billon a lot of videogame creators seem to have an inferiority complex to the movie industry as well, just look at Kojimaits only natural he gets carried away
>>737427438That's fucking dumb. Why adhere to the movie cannon instead of yoshi's island canon?
>>737432716I don't know what's miyamoto's deal with thinking that shoving pikmin like they're hidden mickeys is going to make them popular, nobody that doesn't like the series already is gonna get excited over spotting them
>>737433484You need to be put in prison, snoy.But you won't, because glowies are your handlers, and they have your back.
>>737429148>Mario Tennis FEVER costing a whopping $70>Meanwhile Rhythm Heaven is $40>Splatoon Raiders is $50 Digitally and $60 Physically I guess the $70 price tag was for Daisy’s Health Insurance
>>737429806this
Just as a note to everyone ITT it was discovered last week that Paulineschizo is disabled and bound to a mobility scooter.
>>737433193Weren't Pauline and Wart promoted? And where's Mona?
>>737427438So Mario's story in movies is different but he wants the peach stuff to be canon? That's confusing.
>>737433315>>737433449>Dinosaur PlanetHe already is Saber.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tu0ouH5dLbc&t=1333&si=U48L6BVcTE6a_6wC
>>737433595Memes aside, I think Fever IS why RH/Yoshi/Raiders aren't full price. Fever ate SHIT compared to the rest of the Mario Tennis series.
>>737433638Only Pauline. The games are what matters, not the movies.
>>737429398>>737429408I miss when Rosalina wasn’t part of the Mario Franchise
>>737427561NOOO
>>737432390I think its fair to say that Bowser is the only character the movies do right.
>>737433595We won't get Daisy's sole video game...
>>737428128He hates stories that are above something he cam come up with. If its beyond basic or just plain bad, he is fine with it cause it doesn't upstage him.
>>737433595Doesn't RHG have development troubles and isn't SR a pseudo-DLC?
>>737433661Basically, he wants the background elements/lore of the movies (Mario & Luigi's family, Peach's backstory) to be canon.>>737433225Only in the NoA stuff. I don't think Peach's dad showed up much in Japanese material.
>>737429430>”Man! What have I done?! I should have never introduced Rosalina and sneak in that stupid backstory about her!”
>>737433706Technically she is Rosalina of Square Enix
>>737429534I wonder what Gunpei Yokoi would think of this
>>737433629I have a theory.
>>737433792So Mushroom Kingdom is de facto a principality?
>>737433505It's a different era, for a lot of people not just on /v/ but in general, video games are becoming the prestige and movies are like second rate. But that wasn't the case, for the vast majority of time.I was listening to some reporter who covered the oscars since like the 70s and the difference between the reaction to movies and movie stars then and now and how it's just like they're no long these legendary larger than life gods, like they were back then and the oscars dwindling is also of the same symptom. People who grew up in that era which i guess maybe lasted up until the 10s (imo) just have a different view of making it to the movies in any capacity, then younger people do, EVEN if it a studio like illumination. Chances are Miyamoto has watched like one or two illumination movies if even that. They have a big reputation despite what all the critics on the internet say about their movie quality. Money talks at the end of the day.
>>737433765I've seen people complain that Bowser in the movies is just Jack Black.I'd say Junior is somewhat close, but it feels like sometimes they do him justice and then others they go in the exact opposite direction.
>>737429795Give Mario new voicelines in Smash Bros for crying out loud, he’s been stuck with that same sickly Brawl voice which does not fit the art styles of Smash 4 and Ultimate.
>>737429795Nintendo doesn't work with SAG-AFTRA (but I'm not sure about CoTP).
>>737434060>he only finally gets new voice clips for Smash with Kevin AfghaniEverything feels like a goddamn monkeypaw with this IP recently and then you remember that Kevin's Wario is even fucking worse
>>737433595They learned their lesson about the pricing, it just took a while for the backlash behind $80 and $70 to catch up. Probably why they're pricing future games more appropriately now. I guess Fever was a "testing the waters" game, and the water turned out to be cold as fuck towards it.
>>737434060>>737429795Is that why Helena Taylor lied? Gonna buy Bayo 3 again.
>>737433986Yup. There's the Mushroom Kings, but we don't know if they outrank Peach (or even still exist).Actually, now that the Koopalings are more akin to high-ranking members of Bowser's army, would they be counterparts to the kings, functionally speaking?
>>737433172Imagine going back in time and telling Nintendo fans that the Minions guys will be the biggest influence on Nintendo's IP's going forward. They'd call you a shitposter for dreaming up such a hellish scenario
>>737434060>>737434183At this point the best case scenario would just be to reuse his 64/Melee voice. It's peak Bing Bing Wahoo which is what Mario is all about.
>>737434216Actually good point on the koopalings, what if bowser brought them to lead different parts of his army?
>>737433765He's a bundle of contradictions like everyone in the movie. They say he's too busy to be with Junior, then show that he reads him elaborate bed time stories every night. They can't decide if he's nasty and petty, or polite and kind when he's not actively fighting. He seems to change on a dime when one scene called for him to help Mario and the next called for him to be a villain again.Of course the version of Bowser you like is there in the movie, because the movie makes him every possible Bowser at once, and refuses to reconcile them.
>>737430246There’s some stuff they could do with a DK movie but not as much as Mario they could reference since Nintendo slept on DK in the 2010s until just recently with Bananza.
>>737433809His backstory for Rosalina is much better, and the movie spat on it. Being alone in space is a lot less sad if she grew up there instead of losing a normal family from earth.
>>737434183so basically>unless you're mainline Zelda, mainline Mario, Mario Kart, or anything Pokemon related, you're not getting away with $70+ (and even then I'm very interested to see how MKW holds up post-bundle)>>737434282I'd be okay with that. I mean, Captain Falcon still uses the same batch of voice clips that his VA recorded for SSB64. Young Link in SSBU also just uses his SSBM voice clips. I really wished OoT Ganondorf reused his Melee clips but pitched down to his accurate in-game OoT pitch.
>>737429805Sauce on that claim?
>>737430291she looks so fucking hideous...
>>737434453first reply meant for>>737434194
>>737434336I can believe it. NSMBU had them looking over parts of the kingdom after Bowser takes over Peach's Castle and they seem to have affinities (Iggy most obviously for Chain Chomps and Pirahna Plants).
>>737433475>small, compartmentalized units>thirty 3-minute units, you get a 90-minute movie>they constantly swap and rearrange these units"Illumination's technique" is really interesting and nonstandard for feature animation storytelling. They've never discussed it at length, so it reaffirms a belief I've had about their movies for years: they're sequence-first, entertainment-first. It's the reason why movies like Despicable Me 3 have an extended sequence where the Minions sing "Modern Major General," or why the Sing movies stitch together music videos into a plot. Each "part" is supposed to be entertaining in its own right.It's different from a studio like Pixar, which has documented and made their process known for years. They make their films through committee, they have an internal department bash the shit out of your movie (not unlike a /v/ thread), offer zero solutions, and then leave it up to the writer/director to fix all the problems. Rinse and repeat until you have a movie that is refined and cohesive.Other US animated feature studios have an approach that falls somewhere in the middle depending on the director. Something like Spider-Verse and its 20,000 chaotic rerenders and rewrites is vastly different from something like Rango which was filmed entirely in live-action for animated reference footage (not mo-cap). And that's assuming it does work, 70% of the time you get capitulating toothless slop like Wonder Park that's so depressing and soulless that even the replacement directors refused on-screen credit.
>>737434407>voice by white man who like weed
>>737434582>white
>>737434194Good, might just get Switch 2 now if the games go back to being $60.
During which game did you think Mario's continuity was the strongest? I'd say Super Mario World, or Mario Superstar Baseball. (I'd choose sunshine instead, but there is some dumb stuff in there.)
>>737430859Lmao your pic looked like Hercules Hades for a second to me.
>>737434654Don't kid yourself, mainline Mario and Zelda will still be $70+. Probably Pokemon and Smash as well.
>>737434146I googled and found out that Cup of Tea DOES work with SAG-AFTRA.
>>737434454Explain his mystery death?
>>737431939
So will Wart and Mouser and such start showing up in the games again or is it just gonna be this one "plot point" adapted because Miyamoto was still seething about Rosalina's original backstory 2 decades later
>>737434654I probably would have just pirated rhythm heaven if it was 60 or god forbid 70but 40 dollars makes it a pretty easy buyThe fact that being a rhythm game means you need precise inputs that emulation might fuck up is a factor that helps tooI really hope it's not the case that it's so devoid of content that even 40 dollars feels like a ripoff though
>>737434216>>737434336>>737434506I think the Koopalings are Bowser's niblings (nephews and niece). Keep in mind Bowser has a confirmed brother.
>>737434442Also did they forget their own backstory to Peach in the first movie? I thought from this it was implied she also wandered into the Mushroom Kingdom from Earth.>>737434407I'm curious at this point if the DK movie would be a bog standard DK Country adaptation or try to adapt just Bananza.
>>737433475The pacing problem is especially bad because one of the strongest points of Galaxy was the quiet contemplative movements that felt lonely. They set the movie in the two loneliest galaxies from the game, and didn't bother to think about why those two were popular with the fans they had in the focus group, then turned one into a fucking air port.
>>737434930>Keep in mind Bowser has a confirmed brother.huh?
>>737434695If we're talking in general, then probably one of the Mario & Luigi games (maybe Bowser Jr.'s Journey or Brothership) because those tend to make an effort to call back to previous games.If you mean something mainline adjacent, then probably Odyssey between the callbacks to Donkey Kong and the flashbacks that Mario flys past when capturing Bowser during the ending.If you mean within a specific game, then Sunshine because Delfino is a cohesive enough environment to the point of seeing locations from different stages.
>>737435041The Bowser you fought in SMB2JP with the blue color was a different character.
>>737434902Wait was Luigi even in Land?
>>737434769Raiders looks to be fun and from what I played of demos for Bananza l know I'll like the full game (and I still have all my Switch 1 games). If Mario, Zelda and Smash end up at $70, I'll skip out and just get them second hand for cheap.And as for Pokemon... really hope this extra year of time shows some improvement.
>>737434947That was implied, but they retconned it, and I don't understand why because Peach being from earth was much better. It gave her the slightest bit of chemistry with mario, which I don't think she's ever had in the history of the series.
Miyamoto barely plays a hand in modern Mario game development so how much they actually make the movies canon to the games remains to be seen.That said I would like to see how people try to merge Rosalina's game backstory with her movie one. We already have the one connecting thread of Peach being a star child in Yoshi's Island DS.
>>737428703Stay mad, Peach is a beautiful trans woman and Miyamoto approves.
>>737434916Well, the movie did nothing for Foreman Spike, so I'd keep my hopes low.>>737435041The Blue Bowser from Lost Levels was legitimately considered Bowser's Brother for a time.These days, Nintendo swings between "he was a fake" and "he's an inexplicable double of Bowser with an unknown relation".
>>737434947>I'm curious at this point if the DK movie would be a bog standard DK Country adaptation or try to adapt just Bananza.At this point you have no reason to assume it will anything other than a clusterfuck of references to various DK games, Donkey Konga could get more airtime than the entirety of DKC.
>>737435145Luigi was the (co)pilot of Mario's spaceship I think.>>737435218Fake in the sense he isn't Bowser.
>>737427438>Miyamoto finally decides to add story to Mario>it's the most retarded piece of lore possible
>>737435110This is a piece of lore I'd love for them to bring back/retcon. It'd be fun to see in a M&L game.
>>737435153It's also all the backstory she could ever have needed. Why is there this solitary human ruling over the toads? There's your answer. I'm not mad about Mario lore being disrespected but just confused about why they decided to make them sisters if it wasn't just to chase after Frozen. Koizumi was right to abandon the idea since it doesn't really add anything meaningful.
Are lorefags gonna ruin the Mario series like they did Zelda?
Oh I can tell it's going to be one of THOSE days
>>737435104How to even judge the strength of continuity is something hard to decide. Wanting to avoid contradictions is obvious, but beyond that, what makes it good? I don't think it's just including as much as possible, I think playing lip-service to previous games can often be worse than not saying anything at all. Consider sonic forces, which was more interested in talking about previous games than it's own story.Sunshine does an incredible job making Delfino feel like a real place, but I didn't consider it because it doesn't do much to make the mushroom kingdom feel like a real place. That's something I think is in common with all the best mario games, they ignore the messiest parts of the setting to do their own thing, which is a shame. I'd like to know more about the mushroom kingdom, what exactly is in it, who are it's neighbors, ect.
>>737428128>Can't wait to find out that Wario and Waluigi are actually the third and fourth Mario brothers when the next movie comes outThat would be way less retarded than Peach being a space goddess created from stardust.
>>737435612you mean one where people get to say mean things about nintendo without pro-nintendo schizos being able to spamnuke threads to death that don't go their way?
I dunno if I found out I don't have parents and I'm an alien made of stardust I'd be pretty upset.
>>737435672NTA but he means it's Autism Awareness Day on /v/
>>737427438Lame. Better keeping rosalina vague. Priich would have been a great lil bratty sister for her peach.
>>737435620If you want more of a focus on the Mushroom Kingdom, then you'd probably look to Paper Mario and Super Mario RPG (and I guess Odyssey? It does feature the Mushroom Kingdom, but I think the brochure focuses on the area surrounding Peach's Castle).
>>737435593I think it works best if Rosalina is related to Peach by being a child of one of Peach's distant ancestors. Or maybe the child of Peach from a previous universe, since Galaxy introduces those. I don't like that about Galaxy though.
Should've made Rosalina Peach's mother for even hotter incest
I really don't think superweapons powered by soul draining princess batteries belong in the Mario setting, especially not if Bowser is using them.
>>737434407I somehow get the feeling the DK movie will be good unlike the mario ones.
Mario has lore?
>>737428703>>737435190>Peach is a man>that's why she's so overpowered in the movies and puts Mario to shameMen just can't stop winning
>>737432237So the question comes down to this, who is the Rosalina of Sonic 06?Silver or Princess Elise?
>>737434407>Ricky Gervais as K. Rool
>>737435985Thats nothing compared to some mario lore though would be a cool plot for a mario rpg 2 with smithy gang returning
>>737436092It doesn't until it makes me MAD
>>737432395Yeah Reggie was based, Xenoblade could’ve been a one and done hidden gem cult classic but it resulted in garbage after garbage sequels.
>>737435875*Ashley (daughters of Rosalina) x Mario and Peach's son
>>737436158What about Kirby?
>>737429435she's called toad"stool" for a reason. even her regal name insults the nation.
>>737436145I'd say Elise.Ironically enough, the movie makes it even more overt>Villain wants to use a superweapon (The Solaris Prototype/Boomsday Cannon)>requires the power of a princess to activate it (Elise/Rosalina)
>>737427438This is fucking retarded. Miyamoto is a gigantic hack for this. The one time we get an interesting character with a unique backstory in a Mario game with Rosalina he decides to retcon everything.
>>737429423>Therefore, I’d like to adhere to the backstory established in the movie as much as possible in future games>as much as possibleIdk sounds like bad news to me. Something tells me Mario will never be saving Peach again.
>>737436248Ashley from WarioWare is Waluigi's daughter?
>>737435153Yeah I rather liked that backstory too. Explains why shes human when no one else is around, why she doesn't have any family too.It paints the toads in a better light too if she was just some lost orphan they all raised, rather than their normal role of just being bumbling idiots. Gives her a good reason to actually deeply care about them too. Well I guess that isn't retconned actually.
Miyamoto killed my mom, stole my girlfriend and ruined my life
>>737427438get tagging tag boys, need to label all RosaPeach porn as incest
>>737436421Rosalina throwing Peach down a random pipe gives me reasons to hate her.
>>737435713>Is an alien>looks exactly like humansSo do star children look like humans or do humans look like star children?
>>737429534Honestly surprised he even commented on that. He must be seething inside lol.
>>737436269Karl Pilkington
>>737436443It should only have the tag if it uses the movie Peach design.
>>737436426Koizumi-san...
>>737436548janny pls
Who will voice Wario and Daisy?
>>737428128>Miyamoto went from having a melty over the Rosalina storybook introduced in Galaxyis this true? god damn i never hear anything good from that old fuck
>>737435471Given how much they love using powerups as alternate characters, Blue Bowser should be a prime candidate for a playable in the spinoff games, Dry Bowser be damned.
>>737429795I'd rather have him over the he/him Afghanistan to be honest. If they can't even bother to find a worthy Martinet replacement then just fuck it all.
>>737434194MKW had the benefit of being a pack in title with Switch 2 consoles which Tennis Fever didn’t, is Nintendo stupid or something? This isn’t Rocket Science. Pic unrelated.
>>737434902More pairings should be made retroactive incest. It's funny to watch these performative people squirm.
>>737434060That would mean Kevin Afghanistan over Charles Martinet, so fuck that.
>>737429398Those twins have nothing to do with Mario and Luigi
>>737436630Since we're so much better at writing lore than nintendo is, what should we do with Blue Bowser? Why is blue Bowser estranged from his more infamous brother?
>>737427438Did the Rosalina storybook really piss him off THAT much???
>>737434453>I really wished OoT Ganondorf reused his Melee clips but pitched down to his accurate in-game OoT pitch.Having the original voice actor actually return after so long feels much more special.
>>737434220Sonic Movies will be live action by Paramount and Spongebob will be in a Sonic Racing Game.
>>737436680Both version: Red Magician and Hierophant Green
Miyamoto is a legend and the things he's been a part of are legendary but I think it's time for him to retire. It's been time in fact. For a long time
>Mario gets a successful movie series>the stories and characterization are dogshit>It's being reverse adapted to the gamesJesus, who wished on the fucking Monkey's Paw?Does this at least mean Mario might score with Peach finally since the movies barely play up a mote of romantic interest between the two?
>>737434282Also let’s not address the King Kong and Godzilla in the room.
>>737436762I wished a Claymore: Sisterhood adaptation is produced.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ju8l30L5ZDs
Only Snoys are seething at this.
>>737436791Specially for the Shadowfag that hates SpongeBob (the meme would work better with Waluigi).
>>737434453>>unless you're mainline Zelda, mainline Mario, Mario Kart, or anything Pokemon related, you're not getting away with $70+ (and even then I'm very interested to see how MKW holds up post-bundle)This is kinda aging well and aging badly at the same time, still gotta wait for Switch 2 Fire Emblem’s price.
>>737436626No, it's not. People assume that Koizumi snuck the storybook into Galaxy under Miyamoto's nose when he worked on it alone at night and presented it directly to Miyamoto.People combine Miyamoto approaching Koizumi about not having one for Galaxy 2 with the "sneaking stories past Miyamoto" headline (despite that being about earlier-at-the-time games).
>>737436863No, because that's just an adaptation of their eternal "will they, won't they" romantic dynamic. At most it means they'll drop more hints again after they seemingly died off after Odyssey, but it'll never amount to anything meaningful because the status quo hinges on them being sweethearts who never actually take the step to commitment.
>>737436961Redditbob is shit
>>737436092Yeah, it just isn't very serious.
>>737437053No one asked your opinion about SpongeBob itself.
>>737436158K. Rool as anyone besides the guy from the cartoon would just sound weird to me.
>>737434916Still waiting on Foreman Spike to show up in a game, I’d even take a Smash Bros Assist Trophy.
>>737436756Can't have two Koopa Kings running around.I had a headcanon years back that Dry Bowser was him since Bowser called him a close family member in the US version of Mario Party Island Tour.Maybe Blue can do the stuff Bowser no longer does like throwing hammers and using black magic. Give him a cape too.
>>737427438Cranky being the father of DK instead of fighter?Don't want that, since it implies my boy DKJr doesn't exist.
>>737435145>Wait was Luigi even in Land? The biggest missed opportunity for The Year of Luigi. A Super Luigi Land game which would be a remake of Super Mario Land where he rescues Daisy with added extras and a hard mode.
>>737437365Blue Bowser is the father of which Koopalings?>>737437469Baby DK became DK Jr. and then became DK.
Why are Snoys seething so hard at this?
Movieslop-canon =/= Games-canonInvalid and worthless by default
>>737437225Movie Wart looks so vile. Illumination is trash.
>>737437598>>737437616Okay, snoy.
>Miyamoto makes this shit canon and says it's always going to be canon going forwardThere's an interview from Kotaku or some shit about the production of the second movie where the Illumination CEO basically explains that he had to TRICK Miyamoto into letting him make a sequel. That Miyamoto wouldn't approve of the whole thing unless it was some kind of completely self-contained in-a-vacuum story that just happens to still be Mario-related. The way Miyamoto explains it, he truly believes that Mario Galaxy turned out to be a continuation of the first movie purely because of coincidence. And that it's simply something that "resembles" a sequel.You're telling me that delusional stupid old fuck is suddenly going, "Yeah we need to have solid-continuation from now on." because of the movie just like how he was, "Wow, this movie's so creative but it's like the games just keep doing the same shit every time!" for the first one.
>>737436680Coalmerald
>>737435471Isn’t that basically Dark Bowser?
>>737437667Okay, Nintendröne
>>737437667You religiously defend trash.
>>737435752>PriichWhat could’ve been…
>>737437569Maybe all seven, or at least the older ones.>>737437816I think he meant using Bowser and his brother the same way Mario & Luigi use their Bros. Attacks.
>>737433792>Only in the NoA stuff.Horseshithttps://mario.fandom.com/wiki/How_to_win_at_Super_Mario_Bros.This is why her dad also appeared in various manga adaptationsThe idea was there from the start, they just didn't put her parents in the games because they weren't relevant to the premise
weird, Nintendo didn't care much about movie stuff while making Bananza, because movie DK and Bananza DK behave way too different. In the movie he is a bloodthirsty asshole and in Bananza he is just a dumb ape that wants bananas
>>737437897Replaced by Mona.
>>737437897what the fuck is that
>>737436762
>>737437950So his name is Morton Koopa Sr..
>>737436613>WarioDanny DeVito
>>737437965It's interesting how the King's design there closely resembles the Valiant comic design.That implies the King was made by Nintendo themselves.
>>737437996Daughter of Bowsette and Boswer from universe.
>>737433792>>737437965Original Japanese version from 1985 before they redrew them for the 1987 NA releaseSo you are full of shit, just like Miyamoto
>>737438117Isn't he too old? He's like 20 years older than Carey.
>>737437558>>737438051Just make Daisy games already.
>>737437829>>737437874Concerned about the Nintendo Earnings Report in a few days, snoy?
>>737438149No that's because NoA redrew him for the 1987 versionHere is the OG Jap 1985 version >>737438162
>>737438060
>>737438189He just did voice work last year
>>737427438wow
>>737434060I've been wanting this since Brawl but Kevin fucking sucks as Mario.
>>737438162gem>>737437965coal
>>737438267I'm talking about long term, they won't limit Wario to a single film.
>>737437816I did forget that he appeared in the manga of the time, so you've proved your point.I was thinking of the stuff like the OVA where Peach isn't portrayed as having parents.
I hope they don’t fuck up Amy in Movie 4.
>>737431537Pauline is a rock that turned into a girl
>>737438376Why are vidya wifeswaps so funny
>>737438376Amy and Rouge etc does made for human male.
>>737438149CorrectionThis is the original >>737437965This is Super Mario Bros. Monogatari >>737438162Both are Japanese madeEither way, her dad was always a Nintendo of Japan idea, nothing to do with NoA
>>737438487It shows how interchangeable a lot of these characters are.
>>737438376>shows up as a heckin girlboss and saves Sonic from fifty Metals>le badass wanderer cape+hoodThey already did.
>>737438487It is a well established fact that Sonic prefers human women.
>>737438643Unless woman have cock
>>737437791> the Illumination CEO basically explains that he had to TRICK Miyamoto into letting him make a sequel. That Miyamoto wouldn't approve of the whole thing unless it was some kind of completely self-contained in-a-vacuum story that just happens to still be Mario-related. I'm not seeing that in the interview at all>Miyamoto explains it, he truly believes that Mario Galaxy turned out to be a continuation of the first movie purely because of coincidence. And that it's simply something that "resembles" a sequel.this im seeing though
>>737434407Banjo Kazooie cameo
Bandai's Super Mario Bros. board game artwork (Korean edition)If Nintendo weren't okay with it they would not allow itThe style also looks spot on to the OG Jap Super Mario Bros. artwork too
>>737438470It's the other way around..>>737438835Owned by Xbox, my Kirby idea is better.
Heh, there goes the yuri shippers.
>>737438903You've made your point anon, the Mushroom King was a NoJ idea, but seemingly dropped after the first game.
>>737438802Right here.
>>737438630>>737439030NCL*
>>737438051why are their eyes solid black shits unnatural
>>737434407You vastly underestimate what Illumination can pull out their ass>take the TF cameo, have Samus be part of the movie because>Samus is after Ridley>Ridley tries taking control of the Kremlings>K. Rool has Troff and Scoff guarding the door to his hideout which is the island from 64 but surrounded by landmarks from DKC2>DK has to do a boss rush>right when DK and Diddy get to K. Rool and Ridley, Tiki Tong steals the bananas>Fox comes out of a wormhole and teams up with Samus to do an Andross reference>movie ends with Fox and Samus leaving through portals or whatever, but something slips in at the last minute undetected>credits>post credits scene is a rocket landing in the jungle>Wizpig steps out
>>737439672Superstar Saga artstyle
>>737436048I hope so - it has a more worldly backstory to work of off, compared to Mario. Rare’s lore-work is pretty good.I’m concerned the musicality of the franchise will be reduced to contemporary needle-drops and related cringe.
>>737439719What if it's Kirby instead?
Damn. Well thank god I'm not a tendie anymore
>>737437996That was the rumored Wapeach from Mario Tennis 64. One of the devs showed concept art for her on Xitter but eventually had to delete it cause the Nintendo Ninjas are actually real. She was originally gonna be Wario's doubles partner before Waluigi was made
>>737439810>contemporary needle-dropsGod help me, this irked me to no end in the first movie, except it wasn't even contemporary.
>>737439956Oh fuck off, Steamsnoy.
I'll bake the next thread. Should it be about Smash 6, the next Wario game or still about the NCU?
>>737433315If we're following this parallel I have bad news for you mario fans.
>>737440020Shigeru Miyamoto hates you and will actively destroy everything you love.LOLLMAO
>>737427836This is so cringe im gonna throw up. Characters having lore sucks. Doom guy is the only cool guy and that was before the new millennium
>>737439992Wrong, she was planned for Power, she was scrapped because they couldn't get the rights for Boshi.
>>737440056Do NCU so we can discuss what the Nintendo Legion of Doom should look like.
>>737427730The Mario movies are really about Peach showing she's a hecking awesome girl boss star child while Mario kinda hangs around being comic relief. Like all modern movies really.
>>737427929Fucking Miyamoto himself.
>>737440132Funny, because both Sony and PC are slowly dying.Nintendo is more successful than ever so he's clearly doing something right.
>>737440176Even old Doomguy had lore you disingenuous nigger. He was Commander Keen's grandson and there was the shit with Daisy.
>>737430764It is implied that all Nintendo franchises happen in the same Universe. Metroid, F-Zero, Kirby and Star Fox are confirmed to be in the same GalFed, Mario and DK are in the same Universe and they've now been merged together.
>>737440509>Metroid, F-Zero, Kirby and Star FoxI could see all of those except Kirby.
>>737427438When they canonically made them sisters:
>>737440579Samus and Metroids appear in KDL3 and now that I remember Kid Icarus is part of the Galfed too.
>>737440681That's true. I just meant more that Metroid, F-Zero, and Star Fox are a bit more "grounded" sci-fi compared to something like Kirby.
>>737440509Well, if Namco can have Dig Dug and Ace Combat in the same timeline...
>>737438487Partner Swap in general is an underrated tag in general.
>>737438835Gimmie Conker in the DK Movie and my life is your Nintendo!
>>737440604It'll really weed out the cowards.
>>737441163>All the lore for your old Nintendo characters is going to be written by the fucking minions writersLmao
>>737439992>Nintendo almost did their own Bowsette in Odyssey Feels Bad Man
>>737428486>He gonna ignore Rosalina's little brother?Ah yeah who could ever forget that unnamed, unseen character?
Next Movie is Bowsettes turn
>>737430051>Miyamoto apparently went over Rosalina and Peach's backstory for the movie with him, so depends on if he's seen it or not.Koizumi's in the movie credits so he was probably involved.
>>737441357>We learned of the Odyssey design too late for it to take off.A pity.
>>737441568Better be the red hair version
>>737429534>The situations are similar, aren’t they? Actually, I thought the critics’ reviews of the first film were understandable. But I thought this time it would be different… and it was even harsher than last time, which I found strange (laughs). People from other genres are coming in and working hard to liven up the film industry, so it’s really strange that the people who are trying to liven up the film industry are so passive.Firing shots at useless movie critics and hating on movies that actually bring people to cinema.
>>737441986The "useless movie critics" managed to get under his skin lol
>>737437271kys tendie
>>737441357>>737439992>pedo bait goneBowsette all I care
Im hoping the next movie is like the 3rd sonic movie where its plot is more so specifically based on a game and the revealed vague evil threat that tried to catch the sisters in their backstory is revealed to be either Smithy, Cackletta or Count Bleck. Would set up Bowser actually helping the heroes for real and maybe they can still throw in Wario as a type of bounty/treasure hunter working for the main bads.
>>737440509Metroid and F-zero always made sense to me as being the same galaxy. F zero in the central systems of the galactic federation and Metroid in the wild west fringe frontiers of the remains of the chozo galactic empire.
>franchise starts as average man doing hero is stuff to impress a princess>Devolves into immortal star child lesbian humiliation ritualIt's Adventure Time all over again
>>737439030>seemingly dropped after the first game.FalseHe kept showing up in manga until the late 90s at leastNever was in the games of course It's pretty obvious Peach was inspired by Princess Aurora and her dad looks like Prince Philip's dad This space shit is dogshitGalaxy was a mistakeFuck Koizumi and his bullshit
>>737441986Make games, not moviesYou betrayed us old man
>>737442905>He kept showing up in mangaWe're not talking about the manga, now are we?
>>737441325If that were actually the case things would be better, but no we have Mr. Puppet Master in the back making his "10%" changes to it.
>>737442903I blame Koizumi
>>737427561Wonder how the yurifags that pretend to be the moral authority will try and make excuses for this.
>>737442903Lesbian humiliation ritual in Mario? Where?
>>737443065We are talking Japan overallThe Japanese manga adaptations took the character from that guide manual and used him fairly extensively
>people act like Peach and Rosalina being related is a shocking reveal>when since galaxy Rosalina has been Peach with a bang for the most part>when her mom in the storybook literally has Peach's hair and round earringsOr maybe it was all the shippers who unintentionally made over a decade worth of incest art having their world shattered.
>>737443065Speaking of Kun, the current arc is the last.
>>737443080MoronIt's because of morons like you that there is zero humanity left in the Mario franchise and the series devolved into power level space garbage
>>737427438They've captured the audience they always wanted with the movies. The casual audience. The fans and actual Nintendo consumers never mattered to them. They just want to grow the business, grow the brand.And people wonder why Nintendo have been shitting the bed for 20 years.
>>737433172>>737434220>Furthermore, I’ve long wanted to make an animated film that avoids the pitfall of parents just sitting there out of duty because they brought their kids, or where the parents are deeply moved by the story while the kids are running around the theater bored. In that sense, I think it was a great decision to ensure it wraps up in a brisk 90 minutes without giving the audience a moment to catch their breath.Tbf Miyamoto's right. My Dad used to just fall asleep whenever he took me & my sister to watch Pixar, Disney, Dreamworks animated movies and hated disney renaissance and pixar movies in the 90s and 2000s. Yet the animated movie he ended up liking is The Minions, which he watched of his own accord on TV and it's probably only because Illumination's movies go at a breakneck speed that he'd pay attention lol.
>>737443283Pokemon Adventures, the long-running Pokemon manga adaptation, turned the Kanto Elite Four into a bunch of eco-terrorists (well, 2 eco-terrorists, a brainwashed guy and a seething old woman), 3 Kanto gym leaders into Team Rocket agents and a Johto gym leader into the boss of Neo Team Rocket.Manga adaptations including the Mushroom King do not matter if he's non-existent in materials relating to the games beyond the first.
>>737443314Is every blonde girl in the world sisters to you?Of course it's a shocking reveal, because it's a bullshit retconRosalina wasn't even a thought when Peach was created in the 80s
>>737443419I mean that was obvious when Nintendo callously threw out damn near everything about the Zelda series to make it appeal to western open world consoomers, but they (and fanboys) tried to dress it up as UH NO IT'S ACTUALLY A LE EPIC RETVRN TO ZELDA 1.
>>737443535I'm sorry, but your dad just has a skill issue.
>>737443556Is bowser junior a bullshit retcon too? What about Luigi? I agree that sisters is dumb, but they were obviously related.
Hope we get Captain Syrup in the 3rd Movie
>>737443651This. One of my dad's favorite movies is Beauty and the Beast (1991, obviously), and both my parents loved the first two Shreks. That anon's dad just sounds like a narcoleptic.
>>737443793No, Mona. Syrup then for a Wario movie.
>>737443314I always thought the idea was that rosalina was from the mushroom kingdom and was a princess anyway, just much older than peach and share the same ancestors
>>737443549None of what you said is relevant It doesn't matter what Pokespe did with the gym leaders, it just matters they are characters based on canonSame goes with the Mushroom King, the details aren't relevant, the main thing is that he was based from Nintendo official concepts and not something made-up for the mangaI guarantee you that Peach being fom space was not even a thought on Miyamoto's head when he created herThis whole canon shit is disengeneous and contradicts his original philosophy of the characters being actors and playing different roles too
>>737443792>Is bowser junior a bullshit retcon too?The Koopaling fandom circa the 2000s would say yes.>I agree that sisters is dumb, but they were obviously related.It was initially an idea they considered but then dropped due to not coming to a decision.
>>737427438Futa incest GODS won, thank you Miyamoto
>>737443792>Is bowser junior a bullshit retcon too?Irrelevant but sure, why did they change the koopalings I never know>What about Luigi?What about him?He's been a thing since 1983>but they were obviously relatedNo they fucking weren't, only on fanfiction writer mindsWhat Nintendo is doing now is making movie fanfiction into canon
>>737443314>people act like Peach and Rosalina being related is a shocking reveal No? You want to see what you want to see. People act like they being related shit on Rosalina's sad backstory, which it does
>>737443874Yeah because you're fanfction tranny writer
>>737443925Not mentioning it in the games doesn't change that rosalina grew up in a castle that looks just like Peaches, an vibrant meadows that look just like the mushroom kingdom, and they're both blonde white girls with blue eyes.
>>737443909The point I was making is that the manga does not matter in relation for the games. The Mushroom King only slightly rises above an OC in the sense that he's based on a concept Nintendo dropped, seemingly as soon as SMB2 or 3. He only existed for a relatively short point in time (apparently not even making it to the Japanese manuals).>I guarantee you that Peach being fom space was not even a thought on Miyamoto's head when he created herObviously. But I doubt Miyamoto gave much thought to Peach's backstory beyond "she's the princess of the Mushroom Kingdom and can undo Bowser's curse" until Galaxy when the question of if or how she's related to Rosalina came along.It's like complaining how Yoshi's Island retcons/overcomplicates the Brooklyn backstory.
>>737444250>>737444250>>737444250>>737440308Thanks for the feedback.
>>737443127You're creating strawmen in your mind to be angry about.
Yoshi being in this movie added literally nothing.
>>737444232well lets seeshe looks like peachher mom looks like peachtheres literally one phenotype on the entire planet that resembles rosalinathe book says that the mushroom kingdom is her homeland that she comes to visit every 100 yearstheres a castle in the background when she's talking about her homeits hard to see how what i said isn't the case
>>737444216No it doesn't. The only thing it does is make Peach's Rosalina's descendant since we know rosalina has.....well had a brother.
>>737443395>humanity left in the Mario franchiseYou remind me of the canadian troll poster on /pol/.You just got a "humanity" injection from the creator himself in the form of one of the most popular anthros furfags wet dream of. The one he created and throw into shit unrelated to his actual shit much like a furfag does with his OC's. The one who is literally the only one of his main characters who actually gets laid. The irony is that his presence adds more humanity to the mario franchise because mario is ultimately bing bing corporate mascot kabuki theater when it comes to anything resembling a "story" worth a bucket of piss .>"NOO SEE YOU'RE CANCER AND U JUST THINK LIKE THAT AND MARIO WAS THIS WAY B4 THE MANDATE AND MUH RPG"and it was that stupid branching out "adapt to times" bullshit what killed the same series what proped him up in this fucking movie. Do they switch places now and Fox becomes the mascot while Nintendo tries to make a "series story" only to retcon/abandon it in 5 years? Probably lol.
>>737444623You are a fucking moron and I hope you get run over by a car. I don't care about your stupid shit opinion bigger faggot chink dick sucker scum
>>737444565Theories was about Rosalina being her mother. Her MOTHER. And every time the universe resets she has to see her mother again, except she doesn't remember her and she is forced to watch .Notice how this a fan THEORY, how it doesn't CONTRADICT what her storybook was about, and gives her a REASON to be in solitude forever.It's impossible you played Mario Galaxy and don't feel like the movie was about something else. Imagine being worse than a 20 years old fanfiction holy shit
>>737427501all that needed to be said. this shit is retarded
>>737445061I have literally no idea what you're talking about. I have never this theory and it sounds utterly retarded, I'm not even sure if you made a typo because it makes no sense and is straight up illogical. I'm just going off what was in the game, which all but explicitly says "Rosalina is a member of the mushroom kingdom royal family that left the planet hundreds of years ago and had returned every hundred years since for a while"I also don't care about the movie and didn't watch it, I was just agreeing they were clearly always related albeit generations apart.
>>737428128Or maybe koizumifags/paper mario tards were never correct about him.
>>737445490>I don't know one of the few, and the most common theory, the Mario games have ever gotten Why are you here
>>737446373I remember my younger sister telling me something she saw on youtube about rosalina being peach and lugi child some years agoi didn't really ask for details though