All of it is proto-woke trash.

>>737427681
the real problem is me2 since it shits all over the first games development and is what send them into the direction of 3

>>737427807
Plus the gameplay changes make the biotic classes a pain in the ass on insanity

>>737427681
weird I still see people talk about it plenty. it doesn't really have any clones if that's what you mean since dragon age went to shit and andromeda flopped theres nothing really quite like it. anyway the ending of the trilogy is not great but the extended cut/legendary edition cleans it up somewhat and its still definitely worth playing.

>>737427681
Yes, kinda. Like it really is such a bad ending that it undermines the series in retrospect IMO, but ME3 in general has issues throughout, so I would keep that in mind.
And yeah it was proto-woke, but pre-woke non-conformist stuff was exactly good because it wasn't woke yet, and a lot more middling and reasonable. The first game has such a vibe to it, and the second game is an exciting revolution on the first game, and if anything, the third game at least has around 60% the stuff that it should've always had. I just disagree with so many other things they did with it, and the ending really is a display of how empty-brained the new Lead Writer was.

Even so the ending can be interesting to speculate on, not in what it actuallly means but in what it could've been, and what they were maybe TRYING to do with it. Because no way I see it does the ending work for what it is. Some will say it does, but I really don't think so. It surely diminished my view on the series as a whole, but I actually thought the ending was at least more of that "sci-fi" tone that 3 often lacks, which the other games had.

The issue, without spoiling anything, is that the first two games are largely trying to be a Star Trek, Babylon 5, Classic Sci Fi Opera with great fantasy lore. The last 10 minutes of ME3 is suddenly trying to be Space Odyssey 2001 and in some ways felt almost like some shit out of Ocarina of Time. In the end it doesn't congeal, and it feels inauthentic, so that sucked.

>>737427681
I mean, it's a dead franchise at this point. You can still get some enjoyment out of the games, even get the usual post ending depression, which is fun, but ultimately, if you want to get into it with the potential of getting something more, I wouldn't bet on it.

Mass Effect 1
>We did it, we beat the big bad! But the big bad here was a small sample of the big bad coming. We must prepare!
Mass Effect 2
>well we did.. something.. but ultimately this didn't really change anything and the big bad is still coming. We must prepare!
Mass Effect 3
>A. We did it, we killed the big bad but the relays are fucked and we had to sacrifice all our AI allies
>B. We did it, we took control of the big bad but the relays are fucked and Shepard is dead but we can rebuild with the help of the big bad we now control (but have no way to maintain because they were sustaining themselves by committing genocide)
>C. We did it, we joined the big bad and in doing so we somehow won? Everyone now has circuitry in their skin and this will stop the genocidal AI from killing us I guess. We're all friends now, I think?
>D. Nah fuck that kid and fuck these choices WAR BITCHES, WE NEVER BACK DOWN. Oh we all died. Best of luck to the next cycle.

>>737427681
1 is basically a stand-alone game.
2 is an unnecessary sequel, but it has some cool stuff and feels like it's worth it if you see it as separate from the first.
3 is genuinely ok, fun to play, and it just shits the bed really hard right at the end.
If you look at 1 and 2 as stand alones, which they basically are, those would be fun if you like the genre/subject matter.

>>737427681
Yup.

>>737427681
Mass Effect ending is great though.
Unless you're talking about the EA trilogy in which case yea it's garbage

>>737427807
I agree somewhat but I also think mass effect 2 is best game in series

>>737429424
None of this seems objectionable out of context.
All you have to know about 3's ending is that it's a violation of the tone and thesis of the series, because it goes from
>We must unite and stop the Reapers, because [Insert 10+ themes]
>Actually the story was just about [1 theme]
>Organics vs Synthetics bruh
That's why the ending sucks. It's unable to encapsulate the adventure the player has undergone, and instead reduces it to something it kinda wasn't, just by the child asking you to solve the metaphysical tension of Organics and Synthetics, because that isn't a theme that encapsulates the full breadth of the trilogy. It felt like 1 out of those other 10 themes, not "THE" theme.

The ending of 3 being bad is a moot point since the entire series goes to shit when 2 begins.

Play 1 and pretend the rest of the series never happened.

If all you know are memes then you probably heard the meme about ME3 ending being 3 different colors.

Wait til you realize that ME2 is the same thing but only 2 colors.

If you want to play a well written science fiction RPG, play ME1.

if you want to play some capeshit cover shooter ripoff of geara of war, play 2 and 3

>>737427681
Pretend ME1 was standalone and Bioware was closed after it came out.

>but muh combat
Mediocre Gears ripoff combat is not worth the story nosedive and death of RPG components.

>>737427681
I'm a massive fan and the games are still great on their own imo. My gripes with the games would be
>ME1 builds up a story that is never fulfilled
>ME2 is an amazing game but storywise a total sideshow
>ME3 story sucks, not just ending
I actually downloaded that shit again just yesterday, about to have my billionth playthrough

>>737430265
As a ME fan, I had a pretty strong gut feeling already that we were heading for a really bad ending when they revealed that ME3 would be released so quickly after ME2. It already looked like there was a shitload of stuff to resolve, and the way they tried to do that in the end just didn't really pan out in a satisfying manner. And then when they tried something new with Andromeda, they fucked that up really hard as well. If they ever release that new ME game, I am 100% certain that at best it will be an okay game. There's no fucking way they are able to make something that got people so interested in the series as the first one did, and I guess the second with its better combat and sidequests.

Really dug deep into ME1 and did all the content for the first time...really bad Idea, now I don`t want to replay the others anymore

>>737430549
>ME2 is an amazing game but storywise a total sideshow
It's the worst of the three because the story is almost as shit as 3 and the combat is like the beta version of 3 so it has nothing going for it compared to 1 and 3.

People only claim 2>3 because they like having a dating sim with TPS elements. The story in both is shit but 3 has better combat.

>>737430604
If your ME1 save goes longer than 12 hours you've fucked up. Some of the worst side quests ever

>>737430637
I like the story and characters of 2. Of course 3 has better combat, but I don't like the story or characters, which are one of the biggest parts of the game. I wouldn't play this shit for the combat alone

>>737430642
It's not a big deal. Simply go find this person on the other side of the Citadel, travel all the way over to this planet in this star system, find and click on the dead body after shooting the geth or rachni or thresher maw, then return to the citadel, try to remember where that guy was, talk to him and boom, some XP and a handful of credits.

>>737430730
My favorite were the storage houses with the boxes shuffled around so the route to the objective was never quite the same. Same with the cargo ships. God those sidequests were so fucking bad. Bioware magic huh?

>>737430642
>>737430730
I liked the one you get if you make enough renegade decisions where Hackett sends you to kill some warlord

>>737427681
No, but caring about a games legacy and not if it's good or not tells me that you shouldn't play it anyways.

I maintain that Mass Effect would have been better without the reapers at all. The setting, characters and worldbuilding are all better than the extremely tired plotline about an ancient evil that has come to consume and destroy everything.

If the Reapers must be maintained as a plotline, then they should be completely resolved at the end of Mass Effect 1, with the Reaper cycle being completely broken. Mass Effect 2 should then be about resolving the Geth issue or dealing with the expansion into new parts of the galaxy that were made available with newly discovered mass relays. There would probably be a new alien race that was discovered in the newly explored region, and there would be internal disputes within the council over how to best deal with the territory which was made available by the new mass relays.

Mass Effect 3 would be about a civil war that breaks out among the Citadel council, presumably driven in large part by disputes over newly-discovered territory from Mass Effect 2. The main choices in the civil war would revolve around taking a human-centric approach or one that evenly splits the concerns of each race on the Citadel council.

>>737427681
As it is now, nah its "okay". The series overall is still a fun ride

>>737427681
I played the original trilogy for the first time around a year ago and enjoyed it. If you don't like the original endings, MEHEM offers a very solid alternative that is just a more satisfying version of Destroy.

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>>737427681
It's fun but the ending really did undermine everything. The funniest part is that the way it came about sounds like some kind of joke, one of the head developers literally shut himself in his office overnight and sleeplessly banged out the worst ending to a game franchise yet conceived, then emerged and told the team that the plot they'd been building up for the last two games was out the window and they were now doing whatever the fuck he'd just shat out.

I'm fucking around with mods this playthrough just to try and offset the ending (and some other things like not having a potatoface Shep.)

>>737427807
The first game shits all over itself the minute they kill Sovereign and the Reapers get stuck in dark space. Bioware had no idea what to do with ME becoming a success. It was supposed to be an one off

>>737431546
What mods did you use for the armor here?

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>>737432495
Not sure precisely which but it was one of these

ME2 was already shit

>>737430965
The reapers were basically a thousand years away and never a problem.

>>737431741
Should have just made it that the distance to the galaxy was so unfeasibly long from dark space, that the Reapers could not realistically accomplish their goals anymore and were basically going to just waste away. If they still had to be a big bad in the shadows, then work it in like there were some gullible fools or Reaper-indoctrinated people who were about to do SOMETHING that would allow them access to the galaxy again. Which I guess they did already in Mass Effect 2 and the whole thing with Batarians, but it wasn't even an absolute necessity for the Reapers, they still were able to get into the galaxy just fine and start tearing shit up until the Desu Sex Machine was activated, that conveniently enough is located in the most important system of the most important species in the entire galaxy.

>>737427807
I'm 99.9% sure they did that because ME1 wasn't on PlayStation and ME2 was so they went full retard with it

>>737427681
What do you think you're getting into exactly, like what do you think mass effect is? What inspires people to pick up ancient movie games, it's just odd

>>737432965
at least try to make your bait somewhat believable if you want to draw (you)s

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>>737432596
>Paragade Persuasion
Damn that's a nice mod. Just looked it up. I also modded my ME games for this playthrough. I'm currently on ME2, and this is what I got. Checking Nexus, it looks like I missed out on some good shit. Always an excuse to update on the next playthrough.

>>737433797
Damn looks like I missed some interesting-looking ones for LE2. I'll need to get those for the replay.

>>737432931
No. ME2 wasn't originally on PS3. Mass Effect 1 came out in 2007 only on Xbox, and got a port by Demiurge to PC in 2008. Then ME2 launched globally on Xbox 360 and PC in January 2010. PS3 port came later that year once they were working on ME3 and ported an updated engine to ME2 and made that into a PS3 port.
Are you telling me that Mass Effect 2 was dumbed down because it launched simultaneously on PC for the first time?
It was dumbed down because it got into the hands of EA, and just like Dead Space 1 to Dead Space 2, they asked "more action-oriented please?" and BioWare did that. They also cut a lot of things because it's a 2½ year project while ME1 was a 4½ year project.

>>737433959
multiplat was obviously in the pipeline since like you said microsoft game studios was no longer involved in 2. I was under the impression the ps3 port was delayed because cell was bitch to develop on.

>>737430965
There's nothing wrong with using the Reapers as the overarching threat of a trilogy, but they definitely blew it.
My ending for ME3 would be a desperate boarding attack on the leader of the Reapers, allowing the game to be resolved with the three amigo gameplay system as you fight through the Reaper leader and reach its central core, where you can then deploy a plot device superweapon or negotiate with them. Either way, you get your well-earned heroic ending rather your choice of three stupid, cynical, and awful endings.

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>>737427681
Mass Effect's ending was perfect. the sequels were unnecessary, story-wise. gameplay-wise they act as weird remixes of the first game rather than genuine continuations. in the first game you explore planets while feeling the limitations of Unreal Engine 3 and the PS3 admittedly but still, you are exploring planets like a character on Star Trek. in the second game you explore... cinematic corridor shooting. it's a total downgrade in terms of scope. they made some of the cover and shooting mechanics less clunky and people were so blinded by that they ignored how all ambition for the scope was given up. the third game? who cares at that point? some years ago the anniversary edition came out and I finally tried ME3. it didn't hook me enough to keep playing past like 3 hours. never finished ME2 either. 5+ playthroughs of ME1 though. ME1 is Mass Effect, the rest are wasted opportunities.

ME1 is self-sufficient, the story could have very well ended there.
ME2 is about fan service and gameplay, with a bullshit story to reboot what's been done in ME1. ME2 is also a contradiction to the established lore, especially the arrival DLC.
ME3 is alright, but it's forced to continue the story where arrival left it, so ultimately it's a shit ending.

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I've been wondering about you
Where will you be, when this is through?
If all, if all goes as planned
Will you redeem my life, again?

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>>737432596
Appearance Modification Menu

>>737434881
>in the first game you explore planets while feeling the limitations of Unreal Engine 3 and the PS3 admittedly but still, you are exploring planets like a character on Star Trek. in the second game you explore... cinematic corridor shooting
For me, it's the Citadel. In the first game it's a pretty big hub, in the second it's tiny but manages to feel like a fucking maze.

ME3 could not stand up to the expectations at the time but the trilogy is solid.
I've read about a 'happy ending' mod for me3 that rewrites the catalyst to only destroy the kind of materials that reapers are constructed (which bioware was thinking about until they decided on full spacemagic). It even has an option to make Citadel the new finale of the game, which seems interesting

The series is fantastic.
The ending is horrible. Actually 3 didn't have any real bosses.

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>>737427681
The series is worth getting into because there's a lot of good game to play. It's not perfect, there's a lot of crud and crust and shortcomings and misplaced priorities. But the original Mass Effect is one of the most distinct experiences you can have in gaming. There is no other game that does what it does the way it does it.

>>737435836
People that defend ME3 be like
>Our game was great
>But actually we don't like it
>So we'll blame ME2 for ME3 being bad
>But it is actually great, for real
It's kind of like hearing Hasan Piker make an argument, while trying not to have an aneurysm.

>>737435286
yes, exactly. cutting down the citadel cannot be excused with "muh nobody liked the mako", the number 1 cope of ME2 fans. ME1 has:
1. the citadel
2. major missions that always have some kind of hub area and lengthy driving segments in large open areas
3. procedural planets with the mako and with bases, often more than one per map, that you enter on foot
4. smaller, more linear stuff like the copy pasted space stations you board sometimes.

and sprinkled into all these you find some linear corridors and arenas for cover shooting. but the cover shooting is just one small aspect whereas the overall emphasis is on exploring big spaces and lots of them.

>>737436506
I still think noveria was peak ME.
Very much still borrowing more from KOTOR than gears of war at this point.

>>737427681
The ending is dumb, but it doesn’t completely “ruin” the experience. It is interesting because it kind of signifies the beginning of the end for BioWare.

>>737427681
me3 is one of the worst games ive ever played. so fucking stupid at every point. like fanfiction writers were hired and just shit all over it.

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>>737436939
>noveria was peak ME
Facts.

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>>737427681
I would say no with a big asterisk. 1 is still a 10/10 game and somewhat self contained. The whole Reaper thing isn't that front and center by the end clearly meant to be further explored in the sequel. 1 does its job and gives you a good game with a fantastic world and setup for future games. 2 shits all over that by basically having a side quest as a sequel, what this means however, is that like one it is a great self contained game, better than 1 in this regard, and unless you play the Arrival dlc you would barely know the Reaper threat is right around the corner! The final game/ending is horrible but it kinda comes outta nowhere, with the first two games being very good in their own ways even with the lenses of "this is supposed to be a grand epic story presented over a trilogy".

>2
Shit
>3
Shit

>>737437423
It all makes sense now

>>737436939
>>737437145
noveria was the most believable and atmospheric place in ME1, although I cannot consider it the best mission because the boss fight was frustrating.
>oh, you didn't bring enough biotics / are weak to biotic powers? sucks for you, get levitated and hope that RNG carries one of your attempts or you have to do a lot of backtracking to fix your team composition.
it's bad boss design, from the perspective of a first time player which is the perspective all games should be balanced around. run backs are a cardinal sin and I say this as an Elden Ring fan. run backs are just bad, there is no upside, stop having them in any game for any reason.
all the more sad because story-wise it was the most interesting boss.

as for favorite mission overall for me it has to be Feros. what a wild ride that was the first time. having NPCs that hide information from you really leveraged the conversation system, similar to quests involving crazy or malicious people in Oblivion.

>>737437887
LOTS OF SPECULATION!

>>737437749
>unless you play the Arrival dlc you would barely know the Reaper threat is right around the corner!
This is my biggest problem other than the Reapers having zero backup plans for their Citadel mass relay being turned off. Shit was weak as fuck

>>737438019
My first time doing Noveria I got levitated into a crevice during that boss and glitched out so I couldn't move or do anything except use the medkits. Had to watch my two retards beat the entire fight on their own was pretty neat

replaying the series with the cheap legendary edition, I've crashed 4 times now at the fight with sovereign at the end of me1. how do i fix this? my hardware is wildy op, so that shouldn't be an issue.

Why were 2 and 3 so regressive compared to the 1st game in gameplay. Andromeda even more so.

>>737438330
I found it more stupid that it wasn't even that necessary. They were still able to get to the galaxy fine and dandy despite losing the Citadel connection and started the harvest.

>>737438878
on feros, my mako fell through a ramp after i left the area and wound up stuck upside down underneath it. had to reload.

>>737427681
reminder that the retard who shit on the OG writer for this series and made that turd of an ending is working on nuTOR.
And some of you retards are excited for it
LOL

What is the best weapon type, and why is it pistols? rampaging through geth with a pistol and a sniper rifle as backup as an infiltrator is still so much fun.

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>>737438019
>he didn't bring a squad of biotic beauties
Get. Filtered. Liara can defeat Benezia entirely by herself btw

>>737427681
Nah, the ending was okay. The problem was that it had to live up to ME's trilogy peak moments, which it didnt. You should still play the original ME trilogy though. Its kino

>>737439286
Marksman is pure kino where you can just blow through entire maps mowing down enemies.

Would it have been better for the franchise if the reapers in dark space did not return, but instead the series was just increasing attempts by them to activate the Citadel relay? Like the collectors may have been trying to create another reaper out of humans to attack the citadel again, and then in 3, let's say indoctrinated sleeper agents were the main enemy or something, and it turned out the Sovereign's pieces that were recovered influenced members of various citadel races, so you would have to wipe them out in a civil war of sorts, which would result in similar choices like curing the genophage and making peace between the geth and quarians so you have enough people on your side to defeat the large amount of indoctrinated generals and armies. Something like that.

>>737439323
I get Liara last and barely interact with her.

>>737439625
It might have helped keep up the "mysterious horror from dark space" thing of the Reapers that started to fall apart in ME2 already.

>>737439323
you literally cannot even do that if you happen to go to noveria before feros. exactly what I meant by, your game needs to be balanced around a first time player. a first time player wouldn't know to bring Liara.

>>737439987
*before therum, not feros

>>737439625
Yes it would have been better if the reapers were completely defeated and any and all sequels were about the fallout of their existence and power struggle of the current species trying to take control of the galaxy. It would be more in line of shepard being a wet work operative doing espionage tacticool shit for the space government. Something that they dropped the ball on immediately in 2 and 3. It would have been cooler if the council was like
>shepard we need you to go perform a hit on a salarian diplomat and frame the hanar because they are getting too uppity

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>>737433797
>fish feeder mod
And miss out on the opportunity for the best romance in the series?

>>737430965
I think the reaper plot could have remained, but it should have been something more like ME2 where we get a series of games to counter and prepare against the reapers rather than try to resolve it right away. My favorite ending of ME3 is when you shoot the catalyst and the cycle continues. The reapers should have been a threat so overwhelming that it really feels impossible to prepare for it in your lifetime.

>>737439987
They tell you early on that Benezia is Liara's mom. They suggest Therum to learn about Benezia first.

>>737440342
Wait can you only romance ensign redhead if you don't get the feeder mod?

>>737440342
>I think the reaper plot could have remained, but it should have been something more like ME2 where we get a series of games to counter and prepare against the reapers rather than try to resolve it right away
If they had any ending where you ultimately lose but put in enough effort so the next cycle can wipe them out. You'd have a bunch of whiners crying that their super special self insert didn't save the day directly.

>>737427681
Hot take here but compared to modern sloppa, 3’s ending with Extended cut isn’t terrible.

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>>737439987
>if
If you didn't listen to Udina telling you to go and find your final Asari squadmate first, then I don't know what to tell you. Says it right before you get on the ship for the first time, and there's only a single squadmate remaining for you to unlock. I'd say the game leads you to her before it leads you anywhere else

I just want to plap the Quarian

>>737440779
>muh space jews

>>737440853
>space jews
You're thinking of the Volus

>>737440481
No idea, but if you romance her she'll feed your fish unlike the other sluts on board.

>>737440524
That's true, but I think that should have been more of a bad ending rather than The ending. I just enjoyed it more and it felt more tonally appropriate for ME3's ending than the three colors. Ultimately, the games should have been about Shepard being a Specter and resolve different galactic problems like the Geth or Genophage, or include new plots. They still have a ton of relays closed since the Rachni wars and human first contact, they could introduce new races and plots. Finding a way to tie it back to the reapers would make it satisfactory but ultimately, the reapers being the singular villain is retarded.

>>737440919
nah I'm thinking of Quarians, who suffer for their promised land, where they went ape shit in ME3, and started genociding the Geth, and you have to LARP as Trump brokering a ceasefire between them

>>737440923
>Ultimately, the games should have been about Shepard being a Specter and resolve different galactic problems like the Geth or Genophage, or include new plots. They still have a ton of relays closed since the Rachni wars and human first contact, they could introduce new races and plots. Finding a way to tie it back to the reapers would make it satisfactory but ultimately, the reapers being the singular villain is retarded.
I agree 100%

>>737440696
I know. so what? it's still optional. noveria has to be beatable by a first time player who didn't bring Liara. doubly so since for a half-biotic player Liara makes no sense to add to the squad if you look at the "role math". adding Liara would make your squad 1.5 bars biotic at the expense of something else that will only get half a bar. you cannot expect a first time player to just guess or know somehow that this is a good idea. plus it's not like you don't need tech on noveria. it's been close to a decade since I played the game but I guess the optimal squad would be everyone has biotic and one person has tech, and firepower is what you sacrifice?

I want to plap the blueberry

>>737441036
And the Geth were rewritten from genocidal murderbots to heckin dindus to make Quarians look bad.

>>737441036
>brokering a ceasefire
Only if you're a pussy that doesn't believe in total Geth annihilation

>>737441195
>>737441228
thanks a lot my jewish friends for agreeing with me

>>737441124
>autistic, introverted, cute, slender, dorky, good-natured virgin that hardly ages
Was she the last actually attractive heroine in a western game?

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>>737441092
Kaidan has Biotics and tech, massively useful and underrated squadmate. Wrex also has biotics and combat.

If you have biotics and combat then you will have more than enough of "the bars" (doesn't matter)

Biotics in ME1 are extremely powerful, I go triple biotic. Liara with a powered up pistol did serious work on Benezia and I just stood there and watched.

>>737441195
>rewritten from hecking dindus
ME1 & ME2 their origin story was a self-defense genocide on both sides. ME3 it was basically a multi-faceted pinokio coming of age bullshit spliced with Reaper tech as if that was never going to go wrong. Absolutely retarded. ME2 still takes the cake for the Tali & Legion conversations while aboard the heretic station.
>Racism is judging another race by the standards of your own
Falls right in line with what we see in the real world to such a funny degree.

>>737439987
>not going for the kino of liara meeting her okaasan
Why though?

>>737441449
That was Tali. She was a better Liara even in the first game.

>>737427785
FPBP. Loved it and still do but the warning signs were there. ME1 is the most immune to it but it really showed its face in 2.

>>737441530
>going for the space jew that winds up stealing parts from your ship in later games
tali was decent, but she was far inferior to the blue waifu.

>>737441514
because a first time player wouldn't fucking know and might have reasons not to. as a repeat player of course I bring Liara to Noveria but that's not the point.

>>737427681
The first game's ending is kino. You can safely stop there

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>>737441449
She's one of my favorites.

>>737441530
Leave it be you faggot

>>737441530
>good at tech and hacking
not just a jew but a space mossad

>>737441681
Your complaint is "Noveria is frustrating because how is the player supposed to know how to fight Benezia"
The simple reality is that you got filtered by the biotics system, you fell for the Tali/Garrus meme and paid the price

>>737441708
am i retarded or was she modeled after linda carter

>>737441596
>Legion's comments on racism
>Space jews being openly hated
>Can still be humanity-first
>Meta racism:
>The only black guy on the crew ends up dating the only big booty white girl
>cucking the player if they romance him
>hooking up with his ex and impregnating her then trying to marry her amidst a galactic ending threat
>this isn't enough
>his dad ends up ditching his wife and son for an 80 IQ rape harem and only remembers them when he's about to go full retard instead of just partial retard
Proto-woke was based compared to woke.

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>>737441853
she was modeled after her VA, I believe

>>737441813
IIRC on my first playthrough I brought Garrus and Wrex and I was a soldier. I had decent success with this raw firepower approach and not being a biotics or tech user myself I underrated both of them. I didn't get "filtered by the biotics system", I had barely interacted with it at all.

it's really baffling how what I can only assume are several different anons are repeatedly ignoring or misinterpreting what it means to be a first time player. it's a good thing none of you make video games.

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>>737441929
No

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>>737442026
You're the one crying about getting your ass kicked by Benezia
You are Kaidan in this screenshot

>>737442035
>>737441901
If only Hideos Kojimbo directed the face-scanning and 3d modelling she'd look hot instead of like a dorky chubby teenager.

>>737441901
>>737442035
hot damn my blueberry muffin are you feeling ill? You're turning white

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>Liara is a blue dorky chubby teenager
Wtf I love Mass Effect

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>737442205
>denies me my daily (You)
Anon...

>>737441881
femshep romances seem pretty shitty. Just imagine
>If you picked Thane in 2, he dies next game
>If you picked Jacob, you get cucked and denied next game
>Garrus is one of your 'best' options, but he's also intended by the devs to be shipped with tali

>>737442285
>>737442205
Damn if you dated an Asari that is 90 years old she's underage, but on Earth 18+ is not underage? How would that even work?

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>>737442285
Here's a (You) and an aesthetically pleasing blueberry shot

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>>737442362
On the one hand, I would imagine it's same as on Earth where you can marry 9 year olds in some third worldistans, but otherwise the Citadel races are a gynocracy ran by a bunch of blueberries lying about receiving Prothean tech to advance their tech and lording over everyone else with it.

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I fucking love it when she dishes out the renegade style dialogue

Really makes you see her ME2 characterization as less shocking when she's capable of being feisty in ME1

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>>737442445
It's relating to a conversation about Shepard not consenting to the mindmeld when you recruit the blueberry in ME1. Also thank you, so civilised.

>>737427681
Still very much worth the journey
And the ending was bad by 2012 standards. Compare it to whatever we get as AAA these years and you'll quickly realize

>>737442578
when does she say that? provide context, bro.

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>>737442646
Yup. I will keep it on a hard drive safe and steady for whenever shit goes down. A relic of an age gone by.

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>737442531
Cry moar

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>737442875
>cry moar
>by providing memes I think are humorous
Why so hostile bro? Did you get turned down by a blueberry cosplayer at a ME convention?

>>737442875
t-t-that's my hoodie, my sweet

>>737442531
When shepard leaves Thessia, his last dejected dialogue is realizing it isn't worth their time to try and save any more asari and wants to leave them to their fate as the planet falls.

>>737442531
>tfw no bossy blueberry mommy who demands that you cuddle with her and eat the dinner she's made for you
why even live?

Reminder that Ash was right about everything.

>>737443270
What was she right about? I would never know given she always dies for some strange reason

>>737442875
Do you also have that one about boobs growing during ME1->ME2->ME3?

>>737443052
You can literally see their statues gradually changing from Prothean-like to Asari-like during the trilogy. You'd think one of those sexy blue bitches would pipe up about the fact that all the prothean shit being unearthed including and actual live one was somehow related.

>>737443213
You can buy yellow bitches, they can probably brainwash you with their hole like blue bitches can with their mind hole. Unlike the blue bitches they can also make dinner out of your cat. That's gotta be quite exotic.

>>737443270
Yeah neutral dialogue with her is something else. God damn that series had edge if you knew were to look and Ash is best waifu. She literally takes stock of who's on the ship and sluts up for Commander Badass.

>>737443270
>her cold "not this time, friend" line after she's unloaded several rounds into wrex's head from behind

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>marriage, old age and a lot of little blue children

>>737443270
She might be right, but she's not pretty
That alone gets her killed
>b-but they made her hotter in part 3!
Too late. Don't care

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>>737443430
actually, it was "not today, friend." She says it as she finishes him off on the ground.

>>737443662
>>b-but they made her hotter in part 3!
>Too late. Don't care
Still remember my save from all those years back when I ended her in ME1, then loading it up on ME3 when it came out and seeing vids of hot Ash. FUCK YOU Bioware.

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>>737442362
Don't worry about the age gap bro, she's absolutely fiending for the commander cock

>>737443662
letting kaiden alive as maleshep is a grave mistake. You let him live long enough to me3 and you have to shut down his advances

>>737443759
What? You can't just replay it and kill Gaydan instead?
Because I can't because it didn't work when I tried it on Lincucks :'( Had to use the Gaygendary edition. I'm hoping it's a path length issue so I can try again with the godly OG.

>>737443752
pure edge.

I wish we could discuss mass effect without waifus getting spammed in every thread.

>>737443871
Non-existent in part 2
Easily killable in part 3

>>737443952
Waifus are the first line of defense for bad games.

>>737443896
I obviously did do it on my second run of the trilogy, to see how it's like if Ash is there(I HATED her and her constant suspicions in ME3, like get off my fucking neck ASH). I was just complaining how the choices I made in ME1 and their mistakes were evident only a couple of years down the line.

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>>737443923
I prefer the girl who double taps the bad guys, not squadmates

>>737444153
holy based

>>737444153
wrex had to go. I'm not letting those space basketball americans get to breed unhindered. I wound up manipulating, stringing him along until i finally had to kill him in the third game. it'd have been easier to let her do it. afterwards, tali even comments on how she thinks the team will be stronger without him. liara doesn't mind either and says that she thinks there was no other way.

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>>737444152
Well Gaydan is just as bitchy and infinitely more gay but playing it again with hindsight, Ashley was 100% right.

>>737427681
Honestly it's fine and significantly better than many other video games that get a pass.

>>737430226
>ME2 is the best in the series
>after we ignore the ENTIRE STORY
>and the level design
>and the planet scanning
>and Jacob
yep

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>such a shit renegade he can't just red dialogue his way into making Wrex stfu and letting that be that
>has zero respect for the fellow renegade in Wrex and openly hates him because "he's Black lol"
>simping for the dead girl who was actually literally Black
Pathetic.

>>737427681
I would say yes. ME3's only saving grace was the multi-player which they didn't even bring back in legendary edition

Legion was the only decent part of ME2

>>737427681
Yes. The first ME is fine as a set up, but it is also very clearly a prototype. There was a lot more to develop and explore both mechanically and story wise. But that all got ignored and jettisoned for ME2's character drama, build an A team and almost entirely ignore everything ME set up. And then almost the entirety of ME2 got ignored and jettisoned, including all those characters the story revolved around, to bring back some of what ME set up and blow it with the absolute worst pay off and ending in video game history.

Ignore the series. It is potential and set up that is never met or resolved.

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>>737430226
ME2 lacks the slower/inbetween moments of exploration and roleplaying, and those are the elements that have aged the best in the original

For the time it was understandable why people thought 2 was better but not anymore. ME1 is infinitely replayable and 2 feels like a total chore in comparison

>>737443351
>You'd think one of those sexy blue bitches would pipe up about the fact that all the prothean shit being unearthed including and actual live one was somehow related
Why? The whole point was that the Asari always knew and were purposefully hoarding information and power to benefit themselves. They are shitters.

>>737445542
>Why? The whole point was that the Asari always knew and were purposefully hoarding information and power to benefit themselves. They are shitters.
Which is a shitty point reflecting bad writing in ME3. Every species had their boost from Proteans, and every species owns the Protean ruins that was found in their territory. When Humans found Protean ruins on Mars it boosted their technology by hundreds of years. Yet it's bad when other species do it?

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You can meet the Salarian bartender upstairs

>>737427681
I cannot play the first one because it only has 4 missions and it's boring, I cannot play 3 because it's retarded and the ending is amongst the worst on gaming. shame the only one worth playing is 2, it had the best characters, best missions, lore and the joker ending is also kino

>>737445920
Humanity got a boost in technology. The Asari race knew everything everyone wanted to know about the reapers and said
>nyooooo, we're not telling

>>737445108
the big issue is ME2 sacrifices everything, the physics, map design, etc. for gunplay that still manages to be subpar to the console tps and fps peers like GOW and Rainbow Six despite clearly trying to rip those games off
ME2 and 3 should've stuck to trying to be third person halo crossed with KOTOR and explored more of the physics engine with biotics and tech

>>737445108
Correct. The worse part of the sequels is them removing the gameplay that matters more than anything to an rpg. and then shoehorned regressive action combat that has no place been prioritized over said gameplay.

>>737445920
>>737446110
except it's made clear that the Protheans only directly uplifted the Asari, for their breeding purposes
the Protheans only left technology behind for the Humans and Turians, the other races still had to develop their own technology to explore other planets. The Asari quite literally never invented anything

>>737446110
Yep. Humanity shared, the blue bitches just sharted. Everyone loved omni-gel AND enjoyed it. All the blue bitches let on were their mind holes.

>>737446274
>except it's made clear that the Protheans only directly uplifted the Asari, for their breeding purposes
>for their breeding purposes
What can I say Proteans have great taste, would breed with any Asari I come across

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>>737446419
Prefer humans mostly

>>737446616
>humans
>genetically designed to be perfect
ok anon

>>737446419
>What can I say Proteans have great taste, would breed with any Asari I come across
>breeding for genetic diversity and not genetic purity
Ash would be ashamed
Seriously though does that make the Ardat-yakshi the Asari equivalent of a Habsburg monarch?

>>737446616
>human
>Some nasty hag
Mass effect would have been better with a more stylized art direction

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>>737446684
>>737446734
in fairness you do have to be high test to understand milfs

>>737446714
They even say that in the codex. It's a condition from Asari inbreeding, part of why "pureblood" is a slur

>>737446794
>milfs
She's literally INFERTILE you dumb nigger

>>737446734
She look straight out of a shitty 2000s WEG, it's probably why /v/ lover her so much

>>737446616
>>737446794
Barren womb

>>737442858
I think its just a screenshot of when your squadmates pipe up during certain scripted convos. Like at the end of the game, both of your squadmates in the party will present the "Save the Council" or "Abandon the Council" viewpoints alluding to the decision you can make regardless of their characterization. I think it depends on the order you choose them in the select screen before departing. The last time I played I remember Ashley advocating to save the council and maybe Garrus telling me to focus on Sovereign? I don't remember who the other one was, but I specifically remember Ashley saying that and I remember it because it was so out of character for her.

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>>737446875
>>737447013
>implying infertility means shit in 2186 when it barely means anything in 2026 when you have money

>>737446887
It’s not like WEGs have or ever will improve. They hit their “peak” in the mid 2000s and stopped at a overestimation of “good enough”

>>737442578
If you unlock Ashley, Kaidan, or Garrus' paragon pathways and you bring any of them with you Liara advocate to nuke the Rachni as well as sacrifice the council.

>>737447367
ye its kinda of a weird game mechanic where your companions need to pigeonhole you into a single good vs evil choice

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>>737427681
You could easily argue that it was so bad that it killed the series. On top of being complete shit it discarded every decision you ever made down to "pick a color." That said in recent years I prefer to look back at the trilogy in a more positive light. ME1 has some of the best lore and production quality out there. Gamplay is still enjoyable and you can easily get lost in it's setting. ME2 while reduced to Gears of War in Space has some of the best companions in any video game. ME3 while having a godawful ending had excellent gameplay and the MP was top notch and still lives on to this day. In summary yeah I think the series is worth getting into maybe even more then ever because you won't have the high expectations we original fans had because of Bioware lies.

>>737447456
My favorite squad combo to take to Ilos is paragon ash and liara
a. because they're like Shepard's harem and b. because it sets up Liara's pragmatic shadow broker turn as well as Ashley's future in the Spectres

>>737447479
More than the ending. I hate the pacing of ME3. I get why it is the way it is based on how they framed the majority of the story. But Goddamn is it fucking retarded to be like
>we're losing the war so you only have the normandy and the citadel and you just rush from mission to mission

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great design

I don't like how human Biotics went from X-Men tier mutants aside from Shepard and Kaidan to suicide girls and statuesque models

Rule #1: never listen to what retards on this board have to say about video games

>>737427681
>Was Mass Effect's ending genuinely so bad the series is not worth getting into?
This is /V/ anon. All games are shit, you shouldn't play anything. Mass Effect is 0/10 like all games that has ever existed and you're retarded if you enjoy it. Duh.

>>737427681
The first game is good, but the series failed to leave any lasting cultural impact. This was the fate of all Biowoke games. Nobody remembers Dragon Age as well.

Let's decide, once and for all

https://strawpoll.com/B2ZB9rlrBgJ

>>737427681
No. Mass Effect 1-3 is still an amazing trilogy to play through and easily in my top 10 best game series. Great story, awesome characters, insanely good music and fun gameplay.

>>737427681
ME3 can in fact be enjoyable, but it comes with a hell of a massive caveat. The ending and aspects of the story were so stupid, that eventually people made sweeping overhaul mods to change it all. You need those mods, potentially with some others that fix retarded mechanical shit, or ME3 is indeed not worth playing. In particular look for:
Priority Earth Overhaul
Citadel Epilogue
Starchild-B-Gone
Audemus' Happy Ending
These all work in tandem to unfuck the game's story. Might be one or two I'm missing, but a lot of them will reference each other so it's not hard finding everything you need. After that you'll at least want the community patch, but following that is more up to your personal tastes. There are many useful things like separating and clearly labeling flirt dialogues that cause relationships vs just being friendly, unlocking paragon and renegade trigger actions regardless of your alignment scores, and restoring the ME1 heat sinks for weapons.

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>>737449539
LE is for people who've already played the OGs and want to mod it

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>2 years since the last update
It's dead, isn't it?

>>737449738
Please tell me about some mods which aren't romance/titty mods please

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>>737449930
I have a shit ton of gameplay and content mods specifically for LE1 that don't exist for the original

>>737449930
Forgot what it's called, but the one that converts the 2 and 3 ammo system back to 1, and the one that removes ammo drops from the game.
There's one that brings 1 weapons into 2, always felt the weapon options were limited there. Kassa locust+Mattock isn't that fun the 15th time around.

just play the first one, still great

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problem with the asari is the game cockblocks you out of the interesting/sexy ones, Shiala, Benezia Tevos, Samara...
You're just stuck with the milquetoast archaeologist
>>737449930
Must have mods are the community patches, MELLO, spectre expansion and diversification mods.
gameplay mods are up to you.

>>737450238
>Samara
>psuedo-jedi
>romance
No thanks fag. Its Aria or nothing

>>737442578
Was this in the first game? I don't remember it.

>>737450238
>that lovable archowaifu?
>screw her! bring out the girlbosses!
hmmm

>>737446794
I never found her fat ass attractive, desu kouhais.

>>737447479
>the MP was top notch and still lives on to this day
It does not get enough praise and the fact that they left it out of LE is their greatest crime

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>>737450808
I mostly just wish Morinth was an actual character so I could pick her
>>737451086
I think I'd have liked Liara more if they kept her original face model and went more femme fatale like the original design suggested. Half the dialogue surrounding Liara is "can we trust her" because that's originally what her character was. Alestia Iallis was embedded as a microbiologist at Peak 15, Shiala was security, you get the idea
Liar-a should have been a sneaky sneak, still an archaeologist but put into position by Benezia to stall Shepard, only to gradually fall in love with him

>>737427681
I still don't think the game was that bad, it was bad, but it didn't retroactively ruined the series, all three are worth playing

>>737451675
Nobody cares if you don't like Liara, just move along already

>>737451697
ME3 was the first time the gunplay actually felt triple A. ME1 and 2 is all about the powers

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>>737451740
I like Liara just fine
she's just not terribly attractive as a character, bit of a blank slate in ME1

>>737451331
Yeah it's an odd choice that remasters always drop the MP component of the original games. Bioshock 2, Last of Us, ME3, etc. I'm actually having a hard time thinking of a remaster that kept the MP.

>>737449539
Looks like the OG's have it
nice to see there's more than 4 people visiting these threads

nah still worth it. The ending killed the chance of a coherent follow up to the trilogy (they had to do the follow up in another galaxy ffs) but it is well worth playing still.

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expanse looks too paramilitary and primitive
exodus looks too jagged and samey
Mass Effect 5 is the last chance for triple a sci-fi RPGs

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>>737449917
I hope not.

>>737427681
just pretend the ending was the friends you made along the way, and the final mission is the citadel DLC after a long service

>>737454529
That's what I say. Destroy is IT Theory, Citadel ending is 5 years after the brutal war

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>>737427681
Destroying the mass effect relays is the correct choice. The alien ai kid thing's talk about, "Uh we want to live in peace now and man and machine together at last," is pure bullshit and obvious manipulation. It's exactly what the reapers have already been doing the entire series, just prettied up with some lying angel baby faggot trying to make like its some undiscovered path to peace. They got Saren through fear, they got Martin Sheen through ambition and ego, their last ditch effort is to get Shepard to think that all of this can be resolved peacefully and actually its a good thing for everyone to be a cyborg zombie. That's why they gotta go. The proof is that that ending is the only one where Shepard survives as a human to load Quarian pussy to the brim with anaphylaxis inducing ejaculate.

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ME1 was a great game/complete story by itself.

ME2's story was really dumb, but because I'm a humongous ME fan, I still gobbled it up

ME3's ending, you can forgive, but never fucking forget.

Honest opinion? Play the game, and complete all the DLC and when Priority Mission: Earth pops up, just turn the game off

>>737430581
For me it wasn't so much that as when we started getting footage and it just didn't feel quite right, and Mac appearing in an interview with Geoff like
>Unfortunately, Cerberus are ahead of you, heh!
And it's like... I just finished 2 and we worked with Cerberus, and then I told Illusive Man to let me be at the end... at what point did we just assume they're like "the Great Enemy"???
Even with Arrival DLC there's a leap there that they were starting to advertize as a presumption and it weirded me out.

Also, when they announced Clint Mansell scoring the game I didn't get more excited. I just thought "Jack Wall is gone???? But the Suicide Mission theme!" and yea he was gone.

Then I played the demo and that's when I realized there was something I wasn't enjoying about it. The missing middle dialogue options because they streamlined it. The Clint Mansell music over the boy in the vent -- it just does not feel like Mass Effect on a tonal level.

ME1's main arc was quite short (Noveria, Therum, Feros, Virmire, Ilos, Citadel). The rest is driving around on the same square planets with a tank that has the shocks of a school bus to mine a deposit, kill some geth/Cerberus/a thresher maw/monkeys, then go to the installation on the planet that's based on like 5 different map layouts over and over. Any squad missions were generally clicking an object in one of those installations and your party member saying "Thanks, Shepard!"
ME2 felt like complete missions taking you from the beginning of the game to the end. The missions weren't too short or too long. The new characters were for the most part very good (with Miranda and Jacob being the weak points, and they aren't even THAT bad). Levels were varied because it wasn't trying to simulate openness, but presenting crafted experiences. Combat was a lot cleaner, the shitty inventory system was removed, and skill trees were less retarded. Liara is relegated to a DLC. Despite the reaper baby being retarded, the suicide mission was quite good. Overall, peak of the series.
Mass Effect 3 is shit from beginning to end, with only a few high points. Everything and everyone is substantially uglier. Animations are funky. Remember all those cool new people in 2? They've all been sidelined. Jack now looks hideous and somehow recovered from decades of trauma in 6 months. Liara's back and thinks you're married, regardless of what your romance choices were in 1 and 2. There's a literal evil twin plotline. Shepard has canon committed genocide against batarians, which includes women and children, but one kid he spoke a single line to at the beginning getting killed haunts him, and the audience is supposed to care because the music swells up. Mechanically, the shooting is pretty good, but hampered by a somehow even worse inventory system than 1. Mission chains are way too long, and you get locked in to them with no way out until completion. The story is a mess across the board.

>>737434425
No, it's because ME2 was still started under Microsoft and they expected it to stay with Microsoft until EA took over after the merger. There's still old EGM articles where they claim that ME2 is going to be published by MS. So I think there was a PC port in the works because Demiurge got the basics of the UI down in their 2008 port, so BioWare and Microsoft probably decided that. EA might've pushed for multiplat, but they didn't start 2 with a PS3 port in mind. They started it after they already started making ME3, and advertized the PS3 version with "Uses ME3's graphics engine!!" and there are some pretty big graphical differences in the PS3 port. Sometimes better, sometimes worse.

The ME1 port for PS3 in 2012 was also using the ME3 version of the engine, which is why all 3 games use the PS3 version as the basis for the Legendary Edition remaster, ironically. They had the least amount of work to port over for the last UE3 release, and ME1 had already been turned into basically the same file structure as ME2/3 were using. But this is also why there's so many graphics errors in Legendary Edition on ME2 and 3 I think. PS3 version of 2 has some black voids in places it originally didn't, and ME3 had some missing effects here and there and a lot of the particle stuff was fucked up in the remaster.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wqAp-fmorM

>>737455837
>There's a literal evil twin plotline
Citadel DLC is silly fan service and shouldn't be taken seriously

>>737455837
try spacing next time

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how many salarian and krogan eggs do you think femshep can fit in her mouth?

>>737431741
Thats extremely easy to fix and they even imply as much in ME1 with the whole "the reapers are still out there" shit. Just make it so that the reapers can get to the galaxy, but it takes a long time and more importantly, they lose the suprise attack that beheads the galaxy's government. Thats it.

So it leaves a chance for this cycle. This is what makes them special. And it gives credence to the prometheans instead of shitting all over them like with Javik. Basically, through the efforts of the prometheans, they gave this cycle the most tiny sliver of hope via foreknowledge and having a galactic HQ. No dues ex machina crucible shit needed. Just have like 10 games of Shepard going around and solving problems, stopping any would-be shortcuts the reapers try to employ, uniting the galaxy, and finding more reaper tech. The galaxy upgrades massively because they have leftover soverign pieces to leap them forward, and anything else Shepard may find. They are able to come up with a bunch of plans and contingencies to fight the reapers. And when they arrive, they face a united galaxy thats way ahead of where they should be tech wise. Queue the game where they are slowly advancing, but are actually getting pushed. Systems slowly fall but Reapers are going down. Then the final battle is on/outside earth.

This also would have led to more nuanced ways to "unite" the galaxy if you choose to try and weaponize indoctrination. Or whatever, the point is that ME1 didnt fuck up anything, its self contained but still open enough to easily lend itself to sequels. ME2 is the game that dropped the ball, and this is because they were bought by EA and thus made it a retarded gears clone and favoring shallow, stupid ass writing over long term payoff. The only thing ME2 did right was making Tali/Garrus fuckable, and introducing a few cool characters like Mordin, Grunt, and Thane. Thats it. Its gameplay is a gears clone that rips away any idenity the first game had.

>>737456448
How do you feel Javik shits on the Protheans?
He was probably my favorite bit of 3

Only ME1 was decent. The rest are shit. Next thread!

>>737456207
How about you launch yourself into space and jump up my butt?

ME1 had the best story
ME2 had the best vibes
ME3 had the best combat

ME1 had an adequate ending
ME2 didn't really have an ending. It just kept going with DLCs after you beat the main plot
ME3 had a shit-tier ending so shit they had to retcon it and put in something else in that was marginally less shit, but still shit. ME3 was fan fiction.

>>737456508
The character itself was fine. The problem is that up until that point, the protheans are sort of mystical in a sense from a story telling perspective. Theyre the past cycle that was taken out but some of them endured long enough in secret to sabotage the citadel, all just to give the next cycle a chance. They were framed as watching humanity in its infancy, nuturing other species, etc. They seemed noble and stalwart.

Javik is an asshole with a superiority complex. Which is great. But it reframes the mysticism of the previous cycle. Now they arent this noble alien race that gave up everything to enable their "children" a chance, they are just a bunch of space assholes that were doing some pet projects and raising asari as a sex slave race. Which again, is hilarious, but sort of shits on the build up around them from previous iterations. It just feels largely unnecessary too. Like, if Javik was a race from 2 or 3 cycles ago instead of the prometheans, what actually changes outside of humorous lore dumps like that Salarians ate flies and shit? Its like explaining the Force with metacolorean or whatever the fuck, it takes away from the mystique needlessly

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>>737456940
you gotta remember Ksad Ishan was a scientist and Vigil was locked away from the war, on a planet only a few of the most elite of Prothean nobility knew about.
Javik was in the shit from day one. I've always found it intersting that of all the crew of the SSV Daddy Issues you learn absolutely nothing about Javik's past,
my thinking is he probably doesn't have one, his whole life has probably been one battle after another. Then he wakes up and finds out noone has evolved enough to read the beacons. Yeah, I'd be pretty bitter

>>737427681
ME2 and ME3 suck.

>>737427681
Its actually more than just the ending of 3 being bad. The real issues start at the very start of the second game. Most normies suck off ME2 too much though to ever give it proper criticism. For a series that seemingly prides itself on lore and its universe it is one of the most inconsistent game series you will ever see in this regard. This is why Mass Effect's legacy is garbage today.

Its not just endings, thermal clips, the prothean retcons, etc. Its so much shit combined that makes this series nowhere near as great as it should have been.

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>>737427681
Mass Effect 1 is worth at least playing, I still play it semi annually and 2 on occasion but yeah it started going downhill even with that game but the narrative and some elements are still good in 2.

Am I the only one that found the Justicar/Ardat-Yakshi thing stupid?

>>737456940
>Now they arent this noble alien race that gave up everything to enable their "children" a chance, they are just a bunch of space assholes that were doing some pet projects and raising asari as a sex slave race.
That was the point, never meet your heroes. Everything we knew about the protheans prior to javik was the romanticized version of them the archeologists thought they were

>>737457963
Javik was a fucking mistake. There I said it.

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>>737427681
>Was Mass Effect's ending genuinely so bad the series is not worth getting into?
I have a ME3 playthrough that I've gotten something like 2/3rds the way through before dropping, and this thread has me considering reinstalling ME1 and going through that and ME2 instead, if that says anything.
Yes, and even MEA as well. The planet exploration makes it fun, despite being a flawed game (I love the Mako in ME1). I just find ME3 even more difficult to get through since there's little to no redeeming factors other than the 'fun' fanservice DLC they threw in.

The genre shift from 1 and 2 did equal damage as 3's meme ending.

Bioware and EA literally nuked what would have been a golden goose for them.

>>737459565
A lot of ME2 and 3 are tryhard edgy, Thane being a super calm and religious assassin would also fall under that.

>>737427681
>Was Mass Effect's ending genuinely so bad the series is not worth getting into?
No. The original ending was bad. The extended ending made it "alright." Don't get me wrong ME3's writing is probably the weakest of the bunch in some areas, but it's still pretty strong. Frankly, it's a lot of overly emotional critics who didn't like where the game went with its ideas.

I enjoyed ME2 more than ME1. It was just a better game. It's not like ME1's gameplay was good, switching to a more traditional cover-based-shooter model didn't hurt the series at all.

>>737456336
12. 12 eggs.

>>737427681
veiny Benezia boobs

>>737460332
Javik was based. Vega was based. Edi was based.
There I said it.

>>737457963
I suppose youre right. But what I would say to that is to emphasize those points, maybe even have him allude to the more "soft" protheans that they had come to expect

>>737461463
>ammo for no reason now
>no exploration, gay probe minigame
>severely cut down power trees
>some of the powers is shit like fire ammo, which was just a fucking mod in the original game
>you want a better gun? There is ONE better version out there. Where as there were actual guns to loot for in ME1
It was fucking SHIT. Nope, fuck off with that. Improve on the combat system from before instead of making it the same fucking gears clone slop that ruled the day and disregarding everything unique about the first game

>>737461460
Anon, at fucking onset ME3 makes no sense
>the reapers came to earth and then were somehow held off by humans longer than the Asari and the Turians who both had more robust armies, who fell in half the time
>also cerberus is galatic level now
>and a dues ex machina that was never mentioned previously
Im not going to let you faggots try to rewrite history. The games entire story is nonsense and dogshit.

People who keep talking about how bad the ending of ME3 is ignore the fact that the beginning and middle of ME3 are shit as well. It didn't just drop off at the star child.

the cover system is for brainlets that can't handle freedom of movement during combat. it's so boring.

>>737427681
>zero legacy
What? Who plays games for their "legacy" anyway? Besides all 3 games are great, and the ending was fine. People who whine about it got indoctrinated

>>737427681
I think so, yeah. It's kinda like recommending someone to watch Game of Thrones after that disaster of an ending, you just don't do that.

>>737463968
Game of Thrones was always dumb, people only stuck with it because they saw Sean Bean for a few episodes before he dipped out.

>>737464028
>Sean Bean is a draw
In what fucking universe?

>>737464104
When Game of Thrones first aired. You had to be there.

>>737464104
Sean Bean was the topped billed star power. Who did you think it was shitty actor CIA guy?

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>>737427681
>Was Mass Effect's ending genuinely so bad
The entire premise of the game was bad and just a hodgepodge of Star Trek/Star Wars elements. It was as unimaginative as it was simplistic and I pity the sort of person that's nostalgic for this proto-corporate slop that paved the way for things like Concord to happen.

>>737464210
Sean Bean has always been a shitty ham, whether it's in Ronin, James Bond movies, Oblivion, or that really awful Hitcher remake.

>>737464249
>150x150
Does that look big on your phone?

>>737464249
True, Shepard was supposed to be a pastiche of schitty sci fi protagonists. Then Bioware got high on their own supply and thought
>people really think he's cool guy action hero
lol

>>737464345
Its not my job to teach you computer literacy but on the slim chance you're unironically using a thirty inch 8k display like somekind of post-consumerism caricature of a human being, I'll give you a hint. The solution involves modifier keys.

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>>737464580
55" 4k, but that's still thumbnail resolution.
>>737464490
I play him as a sociopath with a learning disability. At the end of Arrival, he was like
>so, by killing 300k+ batarians, I make the galaxy safer

>>737464713
>so, by killing 300k+ batarians, I make the galaxy safer
That's correct basic bitch paragon choice. In what reality do Batarians have equal rights as sentient species?

>>737463331
He kind of does but the prolbem is he should've been introduced in 2 instead of 3. We get so little time with Javik and most people take Garrus/Tali/Liara/VS instead of him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ju6juE_hWrQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2D7dWnqbq2c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAe6CuRlTgY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vKJYuPq7k4

>>737464713
>55" 4k, but that's still thumbnail resolution.
It wouldn't really be that hard to see. You're being dramatic. Unless you have it in a living room setup and are 3+ feet away from it. Though I am tickled you'd rather see a sewage pump retard chamber in higher res.

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>>737465029
I'm really on a 55" 4k monitor about 3-4' away.

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Fucking insane I have to install a mod to gay-kiss a character who is literally bi in her own backstory. May every Fox News employee die of AIDS

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>>737466241
what's the point of playing femshep if you're not going redhead bimbo

>>737461463
>>737463564
these are both retarded takes. have some nuance will ya

>>737427681
>Was Mass Effect's ending genuinely so bad the series is not worth getting into?
Everything up until the ending is good.
The ending isn't even that bad anyway.

>>737427681
I'd say it's still worth it
it's been on sale for under $10 several times so just get it then

>>737427785
>>737441881
MUH WOKE MUH WOKE MUH WOKE fucking kill yourselves already.

>>737441881
wouldnt call quarians space jews but space gypsies

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>>737441881
>>737469894
Thoughts on the mod that makes quarians space kots?

>>737427681
ME1 is the best one from an objective standpoint
ME2 is halfway a dudebro shooter and basically a glorified sidequest but it's still at least acceptable
ME3 is the worst by far because of the ending and shit like edgelord Kai Leng multiplayer was surprisingly fun though
Andromeda is Andromeda

>>737470034
>multiplayer was surprisingly fun though
God I miss all my ayy Donut Steels, I tried making lore-accurate names for them and everything.

>>737469894
they wrote all their shit on stone tablets, got kicked out of galactic society and are nomads with persecution complexes despite being war mongering assholes

>>737469958
All I can think of is a empty garbage can ready to be filled up again. sorry.

>>737470595
Its funny how a game like Helldivers can sell for 60 bucks for a product that's 20% of what ME3 multiplayer offered

>>737427807
trvke

ME1 is the best one, so long as you can look past the dogshit combat, the flat voice acting, and the tedious side quests.

If I’m playing this with someone who never played the game before, should I install the good ending mod or whatever it’s called? Is it a good mod for a first playthrough?

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>>737469958
Anon, it's kill.