Do you gatekeep your video games?
It's impossible to gatekeep series nowadays.
>peter>the horse is here
>>737434705I disagree
>>737434656Is this the designated subtle Uma Musume thread? I’ve never played it and never will but it’s a pattern I’ve noticed.
>>737434656You can't gatekeep shit in post-iphone era internet so the question meaningless:a) Normalfags outnumber you to oblivionb) Most websites are run by "You have to play nicely chuds" toxic positivity jannies who won't let you exclude anyonec) The brown and underage demographics straight up don't understand what you are talking about, you have better odds of convincing a brick wall on the necessity of gatekeeping.
>>737434705You gatekeep by being weirder and harder to understand. Maybe try and make the fandom more analogue (pen and paper, no meet ups, no online meets, forum discussions...said forums need an invite"
>>737434705>>737434965If an IP is esoteric enough and/or too niche then its gate keeps the usual crowds naturally
yakuza and metal gear rising are some of the most wide normie appeal games to ever exist. It's shit you would recommend to someone who is completely new to gaming. Same thing with ace attorney lol. what's up with everyone picking the most regular shit to gatekeep and go full elitist on
>>737435215bottom left is the actual problem
>>737434656Revengeance got a sort of revival from memes, made even stronger by the Maxor video. A lot of people have never and will never play it, they just like the funny pictures.Yakuza has turned into a bad parody of itself, but I think that's more internal Sega politics where Nagoshi left and now nobody is around to tell Yokoyama his ideas are stupid.Ace Attorney has always had a pretty small fanbase. There's some people who will jerk off to clown girls and take any opportunity to do so without even knowing where she came from. In general, it's more shocking that there's no AA7 than that some people say stupid shit about it.One of those pictures is for something so fucking shitty it's not really worth considering.
>>737435181it really doesn't matter how esoteric an IP is. normalfags would eat shit laced with crack if it was popular.
>have a cult game>sseth makes a video on it>community is forever ruined
>>737434705This. You can’t stop people from being retards and complaining compels them to act even more retarded
i play dominions so no i do not
I miss PM before it became popular in the west
>>737435363by the time he makes the video you can move on to another game. Rinse and repeat.
>>737435361Normalfags love edgy grimdark ass rape games though. F&H succumbed to the inevitable.
>>737434656me with sonic and zelda
>>737435303Umas was probably the most damaged out of the 4 here though
You can't gatekeep anything in the era of "do you have to play x to be a fan of it?"
>>737434705It's very easy. Just get very angry at anyone who demonstrates a faulty understanding of something you enjoy.
Fatal Frame basically gatekeeps itself, despite the wrenches 5 threw into the works.
>>737435361>grimdark finnish autism one man show gameThis shit was prime 4chinz videogame and somehow normalfags still ended up playing it in droves and making 12 hr pseud video essays on it. Truly can't have anything nice nowadays.
>yeah that company that wants to sell a product for money? >they should have LESS SALES>they should get FEWER CUSTOMERS, they must be LOYAL to MEsome retards seriously believe this
>>737434656You shouldn't gatekeep a single videogame, but videogames as a whole, which is impossible. Normies already infected everything.
>>737434656>Implying mgr wasn't about making memes since day 1
>>737435697Then you get baited by false flaggers.
>>737435768I say this and I believe this btw, if i like a game franchise it must only appeal to me and nobody else.
>>737434656idk if it's gatekeeping but I get into niche anime and stuff all the time like I recently watched FoTNS and shit and when I check their subreddit its complete mamble bamble like WHAT IF SAILOR MOON FAUGHT KENSHIRO WHO WOULD WIN???? like what the fuck are these fuckers talking about. Same with Muv Luv and Subahibi, I'll see the dumbest nonsensical edits and dumb ass questions that I'm genuinely like the fuck? It's not even "normies" what would you even call this shit?
people who complain about normies are almost always invariably normalfags themselves, just more unpleasant and smelly
>twitter tourists talking about gatekeeping
>>737434656i stand by my opinion that the uma fandom should've actually tried being horny for their horses if they didn't want the twitterfags to apply their own fetishes onto ityou leave a gap and the transtrenders will fill it, it's a known phenomenon
>>737435768name one example where mass appeal has benefited both fans and company while retaining quality?
>>737435768>give company money because I like their game and want more games like it>they take the money and make a game not like it in order to appeal to a wider audience
>>737434656imagine you can gatekeep an IP that's being freely sold as a product and that is being used by the youtube slop churn to generate ad revenue might as well yell at the rain clouds to go away
>>737435921Resident Evil and Monster Hunter
>>737435856spergs
>>737435978
>>737435902Porn is what attracts those types in the first place though. Having Maruzensky spreading eagle won't deter it, in fact being an openly horny fanbase attracts ERPers which then brings in the troons.
>>737435856>>737435986bump like im genuinely asking what the fuck is this type of shit?
>>737434656Was this supposed to be a [redacted] thread?
>>737435856someone on tiktok started spamming out new bullshit using media from yesterdecade
>>737435978>Monster Hunterlmao kill yourself
>>737434656Yes, only leftist bootlickers hate gatekeeping
>>737436050Literally just spergs, and probably underage at that. Think about all the dumb, cringy shit you posted on forums or whatever in your younger days. Now apply that to the modern hellscape of reddit, discord, etc.
>>737436050forgot to post. >>737436086I'll see like random edits of Takuji with the isreal flag and shit and I'm like ??? the fuck is this schizo shit. Like I don't know where all these SO RANDOM XD people even come from. I don't even know if they have a term.
>>737436083No
>>737434656I keep the gates open because nobody ever shows up
>>737436026you say this as if blue archive doesn't naturally gatekeep itself through how horny the fanbase is>inb4 it's because of the lolis!then try literally any horny anime fanbase, doubt you'll find anyone trying to pull that shit with roshidere for example
>>737436050Children. It's genuinely just children. You see people talking about how "this app" is bad, memes about swiping images and shaking your screen. The internet is filled with literal children.
>>737435978>genuine question>bait answerName a more iconic duo
>>737435727>not 2deep4u enough to make hours long video essays on like SH>doesn’t have the memes or mainstream appeal of REIt definitely sits in a weird middle ground where there isn’t really any reason for tertiaries to latch onto it.
>>737435921>>737435949You paid for a product but you don't have ownership over the property, the corporation owns it and they'll do whatever they think will squeeze the most pennies outYour problem is letting ephemeral corporate products define your identity
>>737434656my series filtered people over a decade ago and only the truly committed remain so I have very little worry it will ever get significant notice and popularity from the mainstream and turned to shit.
I reckon RE got hit the hardest with a lack of gatekeeping considering it spurred on discussion on whether or not that your only experience with the entire series is watching shorts is enough to qualify as a fan.
>>737434705You cannot gatekeep a series, only the developers can. You can only gatekeep a community space if you have moderator privileges in it to eject people how act improperly. Just shouting at people doesn't work.
>>737434656Friendly reminder hogmophobia and transphobia is not "gatekeeping"
>>737436192millenial parents have failed huh.
Guilty Gear lmao
>>737436151honestly might just be AI coming up with "engaging" concepts We live in a cursed world where we have an attention economy that now awards money to whoever can spam out the most bullshit
>>737435978>Monster HunterThis has to be a joke
>>737436178>as if blue archive doesn't naturally gatekeep itself through how horny the fanbase isYou're right, it doesn't. Neither does ZZZ.
>>737436305I got hogmaphobia the way fat bitches got me shaking and sweating
>>737434656Honorable mention to Umineko. Yakuza really got ruined by pandering to the new fans though, shit sucks. Monster Hunter is on the same trajectory.
>>737434705The Blue Archive fans did a great job at it. Umanons need to take notes.
>>737436307Aren't zoomers the parents now or are people actually at the point where they don't have kids until 30+
>>737436363Yakuza had it's main creative lead and director leave/get fired so it's no surprise it changed gears for the worse.
>>737436083No this thread is by a BAfag that something out for uma or whatever
>>737435303Holy shit fuck Max0r.What an annoying faggot.
>>737434656My video games gatekeep themselves
>>737436402>or are people actually at the point where they don't have kids until 30+You look at the current state of women and dating in general and you tell me
This is gatekeeping
>>737434656Metal Gear and Ace Attorney are dead series anyway. Who cares if normalfags ruin them at this point?
>>737436402Having kids before 30 is throwing away your youth. I'll be picking up my son from soccer practice at 65 making all of the single moms swoon for the GILF
Nothing convinced me that gatekeeping is necessary like seeing the absolute state of all yuri and yaoi "communities" online these days.Almost literally nothing but retarded drama, autistic latinx, and culture war bullshit.
>>737436395>Don't gatekeep>Get animes and a movieI think this is worth more than like 5 trannies on twitter or whatever that I can ignore
>"like" goontarded gacha ""game"">Someone injects their own goontard fetish>Have a melty>Spam everywhere Coomer aus raus!
>don’t use xitter>don’t use plebbit>don’t use tiktok>only use youtube to watch from my curated subscription list instead of whatever random shit the algorithm wants to forcefeed me>would never interact with or acknowledge “fandoms” if I didn’t have to see screencaps from the above places spammed here daily You would all be a lot happier if you stopped going out of your way seeking out reasons to be mad.
>>737435727I've only played the first three. Are any the ones after them worth checking out?
>>737437102It sucks though. I like discussing the stuff I played/watched/read. But everytime I read a book and see discussion online it's just "isn't this LE PROBLEMATICCCC????" holy shit I'm starting to hate americans and europeans so much. And multiplayer/competitive games, I like learning new tech and stuff but good lord I'm going to see some retarded shit in the crossfire. Fuck fighting games.
>>737435810does that matter? it makes the community look unfavourable and hopefully deter normalfags.
>>737436239It has tertiaries shitting themselves over censorship ever since 5's dubious western localization (that in my opinion had bigger problems than that), and for some reason the recent remasters have attracted this small sadgirl tiktokcore aesthetic movement. By and large though, it's trucked on as it usually has.
>>737435753>normalfags still ended up playingthey didn't actually play it but watch some streamer play it with censor patch applied
>>737436240>he corporation owns it and they'll do whatever they think will squeeze the most pennies outLate Capitalist approach, how has that benefited both fans and company if both loathe each other?>Your problem is letting ephemeral corporate products define your identityAll things are ephemeral, so while i linger on this earth i wish to enjoy the things i love that were made with passion and not shareholders in mind.I hate you, anon. And everything you stand for
>>737435768>Won't somebody think about the poor companies???
>>737434705It depends on how easy it is to get into.If the game is very easy, has very inoffensive content, or from an overly popular genre, then it's impossible to gatekeep because people won't be naturally filtered out.
>>737437143Depends on how far you want to go with it. Going past the PS2 is definitely "fans only" territory, kinda like playing Megaman X past X4 but not quite THAT spotty. Neither 4 nor 5 are as good as the first 3 but I think they both have their highs and lows. I think they're worth at least one playthrough each. I liked 2's recent remake well enough, but it does feel a little more "modern" and action-oriented. I wouldn't quite call it an RE4 level leap but maybe like an RE3 to the original's RE2.
>>737437081It's kinda funny how people keep talking about trannies in the community when I literally never interact with any of them.If it wasn't for schizos posting twitter pics here I wouldn't even know they like the franchise in the first placeAnon biggest sin is that they, unironically, can't stop thinking about trannies
>>737435084>You gatekeep by being weirder and harder to understandHasn't stopped anyone
>>737437213>Fuck fighting gamesAt a certain point this is on you for not having the skillset to filter through discussions you don't like. I play Tekken and once in a blue moon someone will pull a "erm guys isn't Lili 16 why can you put her in a bikini that looks like lingerie" and the response near universally is nobody cares. People are much more likely to whip themselves into a frenzy about Murray ruining the balance of the game than anything near the usual "problematic" nature, including the recent Madagascar character with big tits. At most there will be a day or two of it before people move on.
>>737437632this. remind me how have normies ruined Cruelty Squad?
>>737437229In that you might be arguing with a "friend" who's bullshitting you for kicks, a little. Some people just spout talking points from Wikipedia or whatever, but others know their shit and intentionally take the other side because it's funny. I guess if all you care about is deterring normalfags by sounding schizo then none of that matters. It's still a valid tactic.
I just use slower altchansI only come back to this place for shitposting and falseflagging for (you)
>>737436307>On the contrary Snake, the rampant growth of the digital age has become something of a modern-day Pandora's Box.>"How so?">The sheer volume of information available to the masses, useful or trite, has become so vast that it's effectively diluting the human experience. In combination with early access to technologies such as smartphones and tablet devices, new generations of children are missing out on formative experiences. Reading, arithmetic and even socialising with other kids their own age are all going out the window.>To say nothing of the damage done to their attention spans and thinking capacity would be a disservice to my country.>"So why not go to the root of the problem? Take out the tech companies or focus on PSAs for new parents.">Unfortunately Snake, the developing tech industries have their handstoo deep into global politics to effect any change on that scale. Adding to the information problem there's also the issue of misinformation running unchecked, making a unified propaganda campaign impossible>"Propaganda? I thought this was messaging meant for the public good?">Propaganda in the loosest terms, Snake. Nevermind how embedded a computer is in the life of the average person.>"Hnnng...guess the future is looking pretty bleak then, huh?">Grim, but correctable. Our AI-I mean the AI bubble is projected to ventually burst, but I shan't take up any more of your time. You have a mission to complete. >"And I was just beginning to enjoy our chats.">Don't make me order Sigint to make us his 'World Famous Fried Chicken' when you get back.>"Eugh...noted. Snake out."
>>737437919whats a good altchan for videogames and gay furry porn
>>737438139This. I tried using altchans, but none had active threads for my fetish.
>>737437919It's a shame most of the anime altchans are borderline ghost towns, I only really come here for /a/ and /v/ nowadays.
>>737437642>I play TekkenTEKKEN CAUSED ME TO GET DIVORCED AND LOSE MY JOBMURRAY CAME TO MY OFFICE AND TOLD MY BOSS THAT I TICKLE MYSELF TO MY BOSS PICS WHAT THE HECK >At most there will be a day or two of it before people move on.lmfao no it's ongoing, these fuckers NEVER stop.
>>737434656MGR and AA were already dead for almost a decade by the time the gatekeeping failedYakuza went to shit because they changed directors, not because dame da ne became a meme.Gacha is always garbage.End result: Failing to gatekeep changing nothing for those series. Get better examples next time, because they actually exist.
>>737438139>>737438357if he tells you then you'll shit the place. Hence, gatekeeping
the only way to gatekeep nowdays is puting a lot of hot women in skimpy cloth and lolis in your work
lmao /v/ thinks they can gatekeep shit when you're an artifact of the past and the internet is massively bigger today. These franchises also actively DON'T want to be gatekept and actively lean into whatever gets them more popular which is a moot point. Literally all the content is coming from giant orbits of shit like twitter/tiktok/instagram reels in which you're just a drop in the ocean. An autist calling every cosplayer a whore for example isn't even going to touch 0.01% of the audience of people larping Resident Evil with kpop-tier thirst edits
>>737435921Silksong I guess.I'm not saying it's a masterpiece, but despite HK's massive popularity the sequel was still just them doing their own thing at the same level of quality, just with a bigger budget.
>>737437919I've heard this same song and dance since 2014. altfags are crippling attentionwhores who need to go to real dimedrawers to basically soft-self advertise as seen by two april fools ago and every time the site goes down
>>737438974
>>737434705Snowbreak gatekept itself so hard that they banned the devs from using cosplayers to advertise itself
>>737439123I Concur your example. Well done
>>737438686By "it" I was talking about Miary'Zo being big breasted with a doll face. There was some stink about it at first as well as suddenly 50 Madacascar ethnic phenotype experts showing up but it quickly went back to the usual WOW FUCK MURRAY
>>737436402The kids of older zoomies will still be small, mostly. If I had a kid at 20 they'd only be 7 now for example, and the tail end of zoomers are still teenagers. Won't generally be the ones shitting up reddit for old ass weeaboo media.Although even my gen x parents didn't have kids until my mom was 29 since my parents didn't meet until she was in her mid-20's or so. It is what it is
>>737439123Aussies are built different. Halfway through act 2 I was still getting surprised at finding new areas.
>>737434656Metal Gear was over 10 years ago so it didn't matter in the grand scale of things the one who did get fucked were the ongoing franchise like Yakuza
>>737435768There's a point where you go too far. Monster Hunter Wilds is actually a good example. World was decent enough and Iceborne peaked it. Meanwhile Wilds just...exists. I don't know who asked for auto-walk hunts.
>>737434656This usage of gatekeeping is retarded and exclusively used by newfags.Gatekeeping wasn't something done for whole ass franchises, it was something you did on specific social media / social websites (ie forums or literally right here). You don't "gatekeep" fucking Metal Gear Solid, the game series with hundreds of millions in sales and twenty games, because that's a retarded endeavor that would only ever end in failure because a) nobody knows when something will get popular and b) who the fuck are you? If a hundred people showed up to post about something, you want to know what you'd be able to do? Fuck all.Especially ironic part is that before, /v/ saw gatekeeping as the gayest fucking thing on the planet and it's partly why /v/ hates /a/ so much (and also why /a/ is, you know, dead and nobody uses it and all its gatekeeping failed considering the dozen or so posters left do not abide by a single one of the made up rules in pic related).
>>737435921>>737435978Resident Evil is the correct answer. Most of the people bitching about current RE never really played the games in the first place and they prove that everyday.
>>737435978>Monster Hunternigga you retarded
this gatekeeping stuff only popped off with blue archive
>>737440045Most of this is pretty reasonable.Tripfags deserve to be ridiculed and ostracized.
>looks at ffxivhow would you stop that from ever happening again
>>737438374It's because everyone who used /a/ back in the day was already on other sites. Most active posters knew each other through skype groups, if not from other forums, if not through fucking youtube comment sections (or Google+ as it were, back when it was a thing). /v/ is a board full of people you never want to know or meet./a/ (was) a board full of people you've likely already met before.Which is why all altchan /a/s were super failures. They'd have maybe a year or two of decent activity, but quickly die off and primarily exist as pet projects, because everyone who liked using /a/ just went somewhere else with more activity. Plus a lot of them were emblematic of the most annoying aspects of /a/ that nobody liked.
>>737440459>Most of this is pretty reasonable.You're a newfag then, since this got routinely mocked on /v/ back when it was still posted.
>>737440045This website would be a fucking utopia if pic rel had actually worked. But with the influx of low IQ their worlders flooding the internet it was sadly always doomed to fail
>>737434656I don't bother gatekeeping because I filter out retards by default.
>>737440742Again, newfag, this was only ever relevant to /a/ and constantly mocked by every other board, and it ultimately completely failed on /a/. Not because of a flood of third worlders, but because people simply stopped posting.
>>737440045/a/'s fate is ironic because the entry level stuff they hated people talking about turned out to be well beloved eternal classics. Meanwhile nobody gives a fuck or remembers these random romcoms/mid as fuck LN adaptations from 15 years ago that they tried to gas up as the best anime ever. I remember an embarrassing phase of theirs when they jerked off and unironically got angry and hype at shitty revenge slop isekai and shitspammed Akame ga Kill so I don't trust their taste at all
>>737440820I'd rather have a dead board than whatever is going on on here so in the end they won.
>>737440663>don’t use tripcodes needlessly>don’t ask pointless questions you could just google or learn via reading the board>don’t break the rules>don’t type like a tard100% reasonable
>>737440980yet you're still posting here in an offtopic thread. Curious
>>737440904>/a/'s fate is ironic because the entry level stuff they hated people talking about turned out to be well beloved eternal classicsSuch as..?If you're talking about Naruto, then this would be like saying Iron Man 5 is the peak of cinema or that Halo 26 is an "eternal classic" or whatever.>Meanwhile nobody gives a fuck or remembers these random romcoms/mid as fuck LN adaptations from 15 years ago that they tried to gas up as the best anime ever.The Monogatari Series, Boogiepop, and Haruhi are still very much beloved and viewed as the best anime from their respective eras.>>737440980If the board was dead, you'd miss the shit you're complaining about.
>>737440045>>737440904/a/ died because of the mods. You can't gatekeep if you don't actually have any power. The mods wanted /a/ to be shonen shit and chapter dumps, so after enough bullshit that's what it became. /v/ is in the exact same spot in case you couldn't tell.
>>737440612These old /a/fags just transitioned into being full time discordfags. Like hell I'd want to meet fucking accelspammer or anybody who tripfags irl
>>737441126Such as..?Aikatsu and PriPara.
>>737440612The problem is that I'm not interested in ERPing with people, so I tend to avoid those /a/ discords.Same reason I don't use /co/'s discord outside of the seasonal weekend streams for shit like Halloween and Christmas.I'm not looking for replacement friends, I have real life friends for that, I just wanted a place to discuss some of my hobbies that I don't talk to my real life friends with as much.
>>737441323>/a/ died because of the mods.People keep saying this, but /a/'s decline began long before then. Most you got was N/a/ruto day, which doesn't even align with the decline (even ignoring that your examples are specific to 2019~Now, which is long after /a/ died). >>737441461>Aikatsu and PriPara.These are entry level if you're a little girl that also happens to be a SEAmonkey. If you're the average /a/ user (an obese 20-30 year old man who lives in the western hemisphere), these shows make you a social outcast.>>737441521>I just wanted a place to discuss some of my hobbiesCongratulations, you gatekept yourself, because you envision every single place of social interaction beyond this site as "ERPing". Never even mentioned discord but you jumped right to it.You probably don't even watch anime anyways, so it's no huge loss.
not only do I gatekeep games, I throw meat to the mob by finding series I don't like and hyping it up and spoonfeed everything they need to know to begin playing it.
>"gatekeeping" dramayou're like the guys who get mad a punk band you like gets a tiny bit popular and call them sellouts who are actually badjust hipster "I liked it first" crybaby bullshit
>>737436202Would you have accepted Monster Hunter up until the creation of Worlds?
>>737441687>because you envision every single place of social interaction beyond this site as "ERPing".Anon, stop, you and I both know what anime communities are and always have been like.
>>737441918>I liked gatekeeping before it was coolor>Gatekeeping was never cool (I was gatekept)call it
>>737438974Security through obscurity is no security at all, and obscurity prevents the right kind of new blood from joining, ensuring a slow death. Altchans which are good, are good because they have moderators that give a shit. If yours does, then sharing it here shouldn't be a problem, if it doesn't, then it's already gone to shit.
>>737441973Most of the discussion centric ones are identical to nighttime /a/. There's basically no difference (unless you somehow ended up on the MAL forums I guess, but even there I've never seen a mod step in for anything less than someone posting a doxx).
>>737441126Call it filtered or whatever but I never cared for Monogatari. Haruhi is a cultural mainstay sure. Entry-level wise that they attributed to /v/ stereotypically liking and /a/ not wanting to talk about would be shit like GITS, Cowboy Bebop, Death Note, TTGL etc. Like how many people give a shit about shit like Ro Kyu Bu or Strike Witches today? Always seemed like larping to show how you were too good for it and when people did talk about it, they had to put a mental addendum that "something something, i only liked it because it was a trainwreck". These niggas also unironically thought they were the only ones cognizant of seasonal anime they grabbed from nyaa or whatever, while everybody else only knew tv broadcasts. Also I legitimately believe that Joshirakufags on /a/ were larping their asses off, additionally Hidamarifags were just the precursors of people who larp anime to use it as a pfp. Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei was good though.
>>737441918This was literally the exact problem with Fall Out Boy though, except not punk.
>>737441687If you're the average /a/ user (an obese 20-30 year old man who lives in the western hemisphere), these shows make you a social outcast.kViN will like to have a word with you.
>>737434656there's zero point because the very femtosecond the IP holder no longer wants you to do so, you can't. instead from that very moment (You) are the undesirable getting excommunicado from any and all spaces not discounted as schizo groups.
>>737442234>Call it filtered or whatever but I never cared for Monogatari.I will.>Entry-level wise that they attributed to /v/ stereotypically liking and /a/ not wanting to talk about would be shit like GITS, Cowboy Bebop, Death Note, TTGL etc.Because all of those had already been discussed, for ages. TTGL and Death Note when they aired (and released chapters in the case of DN), where they both filled up the catalog and all discussion was wringed out of them until people were sick of it.GitS was moreso just people sick of discussion around the films, but both it and Cowboy Bebop had the issue of circling around the same two or so points and becoming threads for people who don't actually watch anime much at all, which made them very annoying threads that were fun to shit on. >Like how many people give a shit about shit like Ro Kyu Bu or Strike Witches today?Who cares. They aired, it was their season, people wanted to talk about those more then than the majority of the userbase wanted to have the five billionth Cowboy Bebop thread that would inevitably be some flavor of dub vs sub argument.>Also I legitimately believe that Joshirakufags on /a/ were larping their asses off,Nope, Joshiraku was just an acquired taste for you I guess. It might help to recognize that it was made by the same person as Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei, since you brought that up as well.
I have literally not ever organically come across the things in the OP and other adjacent stuff. Not one. I have only ever seen it through screencaps that then get posted here. This tells me one of two things.1. You unironically go to these websites yourself, in which case, you need to fuck off and go back. 2. You ironically go to these websites specifically to search and find this shit to post back here, in which case you need to take a chill pill and get a grip.
>>737436395Blue Archive gatekeeps itself from normies by having fanservice.
>>737442331Uma Thurman is a banger tho
>>737442121>Most of the discussion centric ones are identical to nighttime /a/.Right, and that's the problem, the discussion-centric ones are a minority, most of the time these online communities suffer from the things online communities have always suffered from, namely autistic drama from people who've tied their egos to their hobbies.Even outside of discussion, I've yet to find any online western anime community that's a decent replacement for things like the Sora no Wotos yearly stream or even r/a/dio.The main issue I have with modern 4chan is all of the annoying third world ESL retards, they're on every single board and they're always absolute dogshit posters. They've genuinely made /co/ completely fucking unusable since that board nowadays is basically just 5 generals full of ESL 16 year olds regurgitating drama from their twatter timelines, spam threads made by aforementioned autistic ESL third worlders, and a scant few comic threads that die after 20 posts unless it's something like a general "discuss comics you've been reading" thread, which if it's lucky will hit 400 posts after a week or 2, with a decent amount of necrobumping.
>>737442634I'll give you that the chorus is catchy, it's just the complete opposite direction of what I wanted them to be and do.At least these days I have Hot Mulligan.
>>737434656How do you gatekeep something you don't own?
>>737442685>namely autistic drama from people who've tied their egos to their hobbies.I've seen that far more on /v/, as in the anonymous imageboard we're posting on where there's barely even any active namefags, than I have in any anime discussion spaces in the past decade.
>>737440045>>737440663>>737441687It's pretty funny that Fatefags were the biggest proponents of gatekeeping, and they'd often be the most blatant newfags around (outside obligatory Narutards and the like (though Fatefags had a disturbing overlap with them)). I've been to several communities run by massive Doremifags though and they always end up far better. I've never seen a community run by a Doremifag fall apart, but Fatefags always harp on with purity testing and trying to fuck with every user possible and create something ultimately intensely unlikable.
>>737442595BA doesn't really have an actual community, people image dump, jerk off, then leave
>>737442784That's more autistic drama from people who've tied their egos to their politics, but that's also a problem in the modern internet in general, the only way to address that is just to outright ban anyone who mentions any form of politics, which is what 4chan should have continued doing instead of just letting the retarded politics shit run rampant for a decade+.But the autism I'm talking about is more like the kind you find on /vg/, where 2 autistic retards shit up multiple threads for weeks, months, years at a time because they're having some annoying autistic spat. Which is fine on non-anonymous discussion places so long as one of those 2 people isn't a mod.If they are, you get situations like what happened on /vt/ pre-hack, where a janny/mod uses their own personal beef to shit up an entire community.
>>737442516Call it what you want, it never clicked for me.Also brother, this is also about people calling it outright BAD while acting like an arbiter on quality when talking about all this literal slop of the times too. The illusion got torn down for me a decade ago when the juxtaposition became too much. Same exact feeling on 4chan as coming face to face with the old /jp//a/ who would mysteriously switch up on a random 'kamige' that would get translated and they'd immediately say it was actually shit all along (but this untranslated futa ntr vn or whatever is actually peak writing because of its prose) or some crap like that. >Nope, Joshiraku was just an acquired taste for you I guess. It might help to recognize that it was made by the same person as Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei, since you brought that up as well.Yeah that's why I brought it up immediately after.
>>737438139ebaumsworld is pretty good
>>737442759I really just think more songs should sample the Munsters theme
>>737435697>>737435084If it's so easy then why are you faggots not doing it? Braindamaged retards, the lot of you.
>>737443682But I am.
/v/'s version of gatekeeping is shitting their pants loudly and hoping the person goes away.
>>737437761its ruining itself with its early access game. if they keep the damage high, it will do fine
>>737434656Geiru Toneido hasn't been relevant in three years and hasn't done worse damage to the fandom that tumblr shippers already did. Who's still obsessed with her?
>>737444239Forget the ace attorney fandom, she's done irreparable damage to the clown fetish community. When people hear clussy, they think of a two faced murder who hated being a clown instead of someone who's actually cheerful.
>>737444397Even then, Pomni has more influence there than Geiru. Plus, it's not like clowns had the best rep ever. Look at the Joker or Pennywise or even a real life example such as Pogo the Clown.
How do you become a non-tourist in anything new you do? It all seems so arbitrary. Do you tell someone new to anime/otaku culture to watch FMA or recommend some obscure shit from shonen sunday or SoL?
>>737443030Fatefags were always shounen powerlevelfags. The series is literally only good for waxing your carrot to whatever new character they're advertising in the gacha that fits your fancy and nothing else.
>>737444653Lurking and actually engaging with the thing you want to be a part off. How is this not obvious to you? Are you human?
Why are you guys pretending your ultra normie series are underground. If it sold a couple million copies than their never was a gate to be kept. All this sounds like is retards pretending their better than other retards.
>>737444653>How do you become a non-tourist in anything new you do?The same way people have done it for literally thousands of years of human social interaction?You don't wait for someone to recommend you shit, you should come into a hobby because of your own interest, what kind of fucking brainless automaton only gets into a hobby based entirely on someone recommending shit to them instead of just seeing something they find interesting and going "huh, that looks neat, I'll check this out."Did you start playing fucking tag as a kid because some other kid recommended it to you in preschool?
>>737444610Ugh, Pomni. She's a great character, but she's forced into the costume against her will. She doesn't have the spirit or talent of a clown. There are no actually clown reps unless you dig deep for someone like Lola Pop who's game failed. Clowns stand for chaos and madness to the general public, not joy. I hate it.
>>737434705yea theres no point keeping the back gate closed when the producers have the front door wide open
>>737441918Yeah imagine being mad about yakuza memes pretending it's some indie only for the boys real shit nobody outside would understand Nigga they made like 13 games, it's literally popular mainstream culture lmao
>>737444653What separates tourists from non tourists isn't a level of knowledge and familiarity. What makes tourists bad, is that they come in and immediately start arguing things should be changed to accommodate them. They care if something is "problematic" not if it's good or bad. If you want to quit being a tourist, all you need to do is watch/play stuff with an open mind, accepting it for what it is. Treat the media like it's own thing operating on it's own rules, rather than a propaganda piece for your politics and/or fetish.
my favorite game has never been mentioned on /v/, I've checked the archives tooit's not indieslop but a real game toocrazy
>>737434656>Being elitist is a bad thingHuh?
>>737444653It's not arbitrary at all>watch a stream of the last game, never play the rest because they are "dated", only really got into it because it got popular and you wanted to fit inYou are not a fan of the series.>play the last game, like it so much you go through the rest of the series, judge them as they deserve instead of going "yikes, why aren't they like the last game???", got into it because you genuinely liked it and wanted to get into it for your own enjoymentYou are fan of the series
video games are a for profit business so you'll never be able to successfully gatekeep anything as long as the devs want to make momey
>>737445301It's really not that surprising, most /v/tards only discuss a few acceptable to like videogames for nerd points. It's how shit like call of duty can sell millions and millions of copies and cs2 have a million active players but not a single thread is on /v/ ever but now it's time for the 18th resident evil that day. In reality most people here are just on YouTube all day or quing league of legends or some shit with /v/ on the 2nd monitor.
>>737441919Yes and I'm even playing one of them right now
>>737445539Devs should adopt a business model that works better with cultivating and catering to dedicated fans rather than trying to entice the ever evasive general audience. I'm not sure what exactly that would look like though.
>>737445539>video games are a for profit businessExcept the indie games, which is why they're super easy to gatekeep.
>>737434656Legitimately how do you gatekeep a game like Uma musume? anyone can download and play it
>>737434705Nah. The game just has to do the gatekeeping itself.
>>737445735Make a forum/discussion space for the game, then ban anyone who joins in and doesn't meet your community standards. I can't tell you how to set those community standards, but it's the same as gatekeeping anything.
>>737434656My games gatekeep themselves, nigga. I try to trick people into playing them.
>>737445562>It's how shit like call of duty can sell millions and millions of copies and cs2 have a million active players but not a single thread is on /v/ ever/v/ used to have CoD threads way back when, I remember playing on dedicated servers with other /v/irgins during the CoD 4 days.Those days are long gone though, especially now that CoD hasn't had dedicated community server support since, what, Blops 3?Only the mega-autists on /vg/ want to have running threads dedicated to whatever the current multiplayer game they're playing is, here they usually only pop up on the weekends, like when there's a party /v/an server up for TF2 or something.I personally liked playing modded Mordhau and Chivalry with /v/, those were fun.But yea, modern multiplayer games are dogshit because they're all worthless skinnerboxes designed to have a monopoly on your attention instead of just being a fun community-oriented game that you play after work to have some fun. Community servers used to feel like the local pub where you and the other regulars went to after work to fuck around for a bit, zoomers don't have that culture because zoomers are "always on" when it comes to internet shit thanks to having their brains rotted by constant screen exposure since they were 6.I hope the anon running gamedate finds some success, it's a pretty neat idea and I'd love to see some older games get some love for some nice "shoot the shit" online play with some pals.
>>737445735You ask them what their favorite race is.This is largely in jest since like you said, anyone can download the game, watch the anime, or read the manga, it's even free on youtube sometimes, but getting "deeper" in umamusume is a direct line to keibafagging since you'll naturally want to learn more about the actual horse your favorite girl comes from which leads to watching race archives. True fans should have an answer rolled up, even if it's something basic like 2000 Arima Kinen.
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>>737444916Come to think of it, what's a clown character that actually performs willingly?
>>737434705loli can gatekeep anythingand if your reaction is>ew you pedoor showing you're an indoctrinated newfag by spewing>tranime / just go watch pornyou're exactly what the gate should've kept locked out
>>737436083It was definitely supposed to be a stealth Uma Musume thread, they replaced the manga (SnK/AoT?) panel with it for a reason.
>>737435768The normgroids making the memes in the OP image aren't buying those games nor have any interest in playing them, they just want to circulate poor quality jpgs on social media and talk about lore/jerk off to the characters.
>>737446806No it wasn't, that was put there for easier shitposting. Actual uma threads want to talk about the game, not rage circlejerk about what some twitter tranny did to Stay Gold. It's lowhanging fruit for shitposters, but not a stealth uma thread.
>>737434656Gatekeeping is generally impossible because products advertise themselves and communities can pop up anywhere. The only way for the average person to successfully gatekeep something is to never talk about it and hope everybody else does the same.
>>737446513That's the problem right there. I already mentioned Lola Pop, but without diving into independent comics, only considering characters with an actual show or game, I have nothing. I don't know how there are so many characters that wear the costume, but don't actually do any clowning. Most just do crime. and if they do any clowning, normally the punchline is how bad they are at it.If I were to suggest a character that's a good model for the spirit and talents I expect out of a clown, I'd actually recommend Bonny and Betty De Famme despite neither actually being clowns. They really showcase the mindset and theatrics I'd expect out of a clown in all their interactions. Nothing can get them down, and even when things get rough, they still try to make people smile with their tricks.I'd also talk about another character who's mixed and can give a good example of what works and doesn't work for a clown character, but GR 15 is in the way. If you know her, I shouldn't have elaborate much.
>>737434705Loli is always guaranteed success when it comes to that.
>>737447043lol
>>737434656I don't see a problem
>>737447208What the fuck even is all that alien goobledegook?
>>737446675The second a subculture becomes readable to normalfags it's over, what's left is a brand. That's why punk was dead the second it got a documentary on MTV.Cunny functions differently from other subculture markers because it's not just aesthetically repellent to normalfags, it carries genuine social consequence for them. A normalfag can put studs on a jacket. A normalfag cannot, in good conscience within their social ecosystem, openly post cunny without real world blowback. Their social credit system actively prevents adoption.The issue then becomes ironic lolicons that wear 500 layers of said irony like a hazmat suit they wear to handle material their social environment would otherwise punish them for touching.
>>737447452Normies like lolis is the thing.
>>737434705That's you become a fan of the most passionate, autistic shit imaginable that would discoourage undesirables from the get-go due to being hard to penetrate and/or having "problematic" elements.And then hope some faggot who, paradoxically, both understands the series yet also welcomes these parasites, doesn't make a "guide" on how to get into the franchise, thereby spawning tertiaries like locusts. Seriously, FUCK whoever made that shit for Touhou. I thought it was immune.
Anyone who says that gatekeeping is good is taking it for granted that they deserve to be the gatekeepers.
>>737447536There's different spheres. Social media lolifags today scream to high heaven about how much they jerk off to it for social media clout or spam the sob emote to random shit farm twitter engagement. They can't just jerk off to rustle on panda and shut the fuck up like "normal" people. Literally the next stage of those annoying trapfag spammers from the 2010's except now they hide behind the nature of their fetish that them being annoying faggots is also against trve 4chan culture or whatever the fuck
>>737447549>I thought it was immune."I got into touhou because of the memes, music, and porn" is one of the oldest jokes to the series anon. Everyone knows touhou from something that isn't directly touhou, be it night of nights, hentai, or even yukkuri torture. There is no way you thought touhou of all things, where a genuinely unfathomable amount of media lies outside the actual games, would be immune to this.
>>737447493idk, we're not stupid enough to understand it I guess.
>>737447697No, I assume that there are tons of communities that I should be gatekept from.For instance, I know fuckall about 2hu, outside of a handful of fangames I've played that are related to it, so I don't really engage that much with the community because I don't really understand the culture.I don't know why this gets brought up, since presumably, if I'm gatekept from a community, it's usually a community dedicated to something I have little to no interest in, otherwise I would take the time to learn about the things that I presumably want to engage with in the actual community.
>>737445562Most of that was absorbed into /vg/. Nowadays /v/ is just softcore porn and ragebait with the occasional thread like this that I actually enjoy reading, albeit fairly little to do with video games.
>>737448058>otherwise I would take the time to learn about the things that I presumably want to engage with in the actual community.But what if they gatekeep you anyway?
>>737448058This. I think they're implying there would be communities for games I like that would gatekeep me for reasons unrelated to the game, but that's just bluesky, and I'm fine being kept out of there.
>>737446513>>737447340Ronald McDonald?
>>737437081blue archive has an anime anon, one of your points is moot.
>>737447536You have a good way with words.>because it's not just aesthetically repellent to normalfags, it carries genuine social consequence for them.The only problem is that when something is TOO repellent to normalfags, they may become moral crusaders against it. For example, Japanese loli artists on Twitter getting stalked and mass reported every time they make a new account.
>>737448314that anon was obviously baiting, umamusume was massively successful in japan (and got an anime) well before the global version of the game was released. western community gatekeeping or lack thereof cannot possibly have had any impact on anything they mentioned.
>>737448304Ronald McDonald isn't an actual character. You couldn't name any detail about him except that he's inoffensive and likes mcdonalds burgers. The burger he's selling has more personality than him.
>>737434656I can only do so much against the onslaught of startroons growing on /v/ due to the "new" games and the continuous shillthreads. The games are piss easy and have little to do with actual Megaman, its the perfect starting point for newfags and cazzies to shit up the fanbase and I wont allow it, not here at least, so ill be a pesky little fly. Im very glad their games flopped, that should help a ton too. Reminder Geocucks it will never get better.
>>737446675>loli can gatekeep anythingYes as long as the developer doesn't pander to the "muh daughter" faggots
>>737446675Pic not related?
>>737448253Not the anon you're replying to, but so what if they do? That's their community, they can decide who they let in. It's not like gatekeeping means keeping everyone out.
we should start gatekeeping 4chan again 2bh famalam baka
>>737434656You cant gatekeep shit unless youre in a position where you can influence the game itselfShitting yourself and hoping the people that see it try avoid entering isnt gatekeeping
>>737448710Pic related is so effectively gatekept, that there's no issue with thread shitters despite having a trans flag in it's sewers. It's gatekeeping even the actual IP holders.
>>737447549>And then hope some faggot who, paradoxically, both understands the series yet also welcomes these parasites, doesn't make a "guide" on how to get into the franchise, thereby spawning tertiaries like locusts.what are you talking about?also >>737447823 is correct, even back in 2010 or earlier i don't remember people bitched about secondaries flooding in because iosys stuff got popular
>>737448848So you're just gonna let other people decide what you're allowed to enjoy?
>people make a thing you like>in order to protect it, you must somehow influence the public to not buy it>and then if you somehow succeeded, this will result in the creators making the same game again for you to enjoy, and only youmental illness
>>737434656no because gatekeeping isn't real. i wish it was but if other people genuinely want to be into something, or in most cases these days, just pretend to, they're going to invite themselves in. the only thing that can truly gatekeep is the game itself.
>>737449020You seem to be under the misconception that gatekeeping means somehow preventing people from playing the game, rather than community discussion spaces banning people that break their rules.
>>737447493mediatok shitpost KINO which just derives from ironically shitposting about "good media" after getting their own rounds of people spamming generic 3x3 greatshttps://files.catbox.moe/6f0xhm.mp4
>>737449184It's not a misconception.
>>737449184>community discussion spacesmost people just make their own discord or they come here and complain about trannies 24/7
I remember being "gatekept" from 4chan back in 2010/2011ish. Every forum I was a part of called it a place full of illegal shit, hackers, etc and it kept me away for at least 2 years until I dipped my toe into /vp/ and realized it was nothing like what I was told. I don't really know how the reputation of this place is from the outside nowadays but I assume it's much less extreme.
>>737434705It's physically impossible to gatekeep a game unless it heavily features sex since that's the only way to stop people from just looking up a walkthrough on youtube and calling themselves a fan
>>737449787All the mystery around this site was ironically what killed it in a way, when you tell someone a place is full of illegal or insane shit then curiosity gets the better.
>>7374497874chan is fucking irrelevant because twitter and tiktok stole their bag. The site only gets noted because of it's past reputation of people going "Oh man 4chan is on the case?? They're going to magically dox, investigate, and find XYZ!" even people barely do that shit anymore. The most it contributes nowadays is some internet lingo of the terminally online but otherwise this site has been on fucking wojak and trannies for the last ten years.
>>737449787>I don't really know how the reputation of this place is from the outside nowadaysPeople don't think about this place at all except when they maybe see an obnoxious video game take
>>737435084the weirdos are the ones trying to get inside
>>737449979They use this place to farm engagement for ad money on their respective social media websites because the act of screencapping some random anonymous faggot's opinion confers to it some imaginary sense of importance and weight. Meanwhile we're screencapping random fucking redditors and twitterfags and not getting paid for it, they just want to treat it like an RSS feed.
>>737434656What the fuck is that thing in the bottom left?Is that supposed to be Stay Gold?
Gatekeeping is a cope>gatekeep your community>people just make a parallel community>their community grows much larger because they dont gatekeep>their community is now the face of that fanbase because thats the community outsiders are gonna be hearing about>OG community is now irrelevant and slowly bleeds to death in stagnationRepeat a million times, yet people just refuse to learn their lesson
>>737450197That has never been the case, you're just delulu is all.
>>737437019>autistic latinxThis is a given example of why gatekeeping is important on any medium.
>>737437102lucky, my recommendations are either some video essay made by some jackass, political shit, some faggot ragebaiting or spic & /vt/ drama.t. has the view history disabled.
>>737450197>Gatekeep your community>People who can't get in make a parallel community>Their community is full of toxic drama obsessed retards who don't even talk about the game.>Every community that keeps them out may be small, but thrives with people actually being able to talk about stuff without assuming everyone they talk to is going to take it in bad faith.
>>737450197This is the truth of things ever since vidya became mainstream. Back then you could sorta kinda gatekeep your favorite thing because it was either obscure, inaccessible or just generally hard to even get to play. Nowadays QoL has sanded down all of that, any retard can just find out about any game, get it and play it, and theres not much anyone else can do to stop that from happening
>>737434705It's piss easy. Literally all it takes is racism, pedophilia or incest.
>>737450197Most people on 4chan don't understand the scale of the internet nowadays and can't fathom how large shit like Roblox is for getting media to literal children. Even fucking /a/ wasn't delusional enough to believe they could gatekeep anything beyond /a/, /v/'s line of thinking has them believing they could singlehandedly stop people from being RE larpers on twitter or tiktok while Capcom actively encourages them.
>>737450536>imfuckingplying small, obscure, insular videogame communities arent also rife with petty drama and autismIve seen way too many cool niche projects die an early death and all it took was a community on the dozens of people, let's not pretend here
>>737450108Yeah it's Stay Gold after she had her gender surgery lol.
>>737449934>because twitter and tiktok stole their bag.Mmm, no, you'd only think that if you're an election tourist.Age verification can't come soon enough, since it will rid the internet of most third worlders and of most retarded shitposters.
>>737450674It's also that the concept of gatekeeping appeals to people who like to feel self-important. The term itself conjures mental images of big, imposing guards keeping droves of unwashed masses away from some sort of sacred sanctuary or whatever, basically exactly the sort of fantasy permaonline nerds cream themselves over. It's much easier to fool yourself when the thing you're fooling yourself with makes you feel way better
>>737444653Lurk Moar
>>737450770why don't umatards gatekeep degenerate troon shit by ratting the people who post it out to the owners of the real life horses? If those people start to complain to cygames about the reputation of their horse then something will start being done about it, and I doubt they are any more tolerant of people wanting to fuck the anthropomorphized horse just because the horsefucker also wants it to have undergone sex reassignment surgery.
>>737434656I have never considered myself part of a "fanbase" because they are all, without exception, utter shit. If a game in a series I like sucks ass then I don't play it, and pretend it doesn't exist because it sucks ass. If enough of those games pile up, then I forget about the series and move on. Guess what my favourite series is, and I'll give you the best prize ever; nothing at all.
>>737450950cause no one really cares. theres nothing some yakuza on japan can do to keep some teenaged tard burger from posting genderbent manhattan cafe anyways
>>737449787My niece spends all day on TikTok/Twitter/Bluesky and I overheard her calling some isekai anime "4chan het slop" the other day. I suspect somewhere around gaymergate, 4chan's public reputation changed from "hackers on steroids" to "den of misogynist incels" and never went back.
>>737435768Series are only good BECAUSE they appeal to me. Evidenced by everything I don't like being shit.Thus it is natural and just that I protect the series from being corrupted by normie retardation.
>>737449020That's quite the jump you've made.
>>737451019>4chan het slopLmao, gen alpha is going to be utterly braindead, I kinda want a world war just so these people are incinerated en masse.
>>737434656i like that clussy girl
>>737451019I blew up this van. I blew it up virtually with a backdoor from my posts on 4channel (full name of 4chan).
>>737450867What are you even trying to argue? 4chan isn't exactly getting more popular by the day as shown by 4stats.ioAnybody looking to be edgy or make a name for themselves for clout just becomes a twitterfag. I'm not saying that was 4chan's purpose since I always enjoyed the simple discussion aspect and casual shitpost side of 4chan and not the le epic haxor raid bs reputation laid upon the site, but people do not come here anymore. Most people would say that's a GOOD thing, but then it's just an objective truth that people would rather go into their personal circles on those other websites. If anything relevant from 4chan even pops up they'd just post a screencap for a laugh
>>737451181>I'm not saying that was 4chan's purpose>>737449934>4chan is fucking irrelevant because twitter and tiktok stole their bag.Again, age verification cannot come soon enough.
>>737449838VN larpers disprove this
I only play good games, so they gatekeep themselves.
>>737451181Thats because 4chan won the culture warNo, I'm not talking about the bullshit 'woke vs chud' culture war retards have been pounding on for a decade, I'm talking about the 'how people act' culture war. Look around you: Everywhere else is 4chan now. Everyone acts and talks and makes arguments like they're in 4chan, the attitude, behavior and mentality has spread throughout the entire internet and now you even have the fucking White House official account making edgy posts that would not be out of place around these parts.This is what victory looks like, I'm afraid, and it sucks
>>737434705This, but unironically.Pretty much if your series doesn't have lots of loli there's no way you can stop normalfaggots from forming a shitty community around it. And even that doesn't stop them some times.
I prefer my games self filtering, Give me Elona, Noita and Rain world.
>>737451017I'm not talking about the yakuza abducting people for fapping to the umas meme. I'm talking about the reality that the game can only operate by continuing to get and keep licenses to use the image of real-life racehorses, whose owners in some cases do not approve of any form of degeneracy, whether that be otaku degeneracy or western OMGWTFBBQIA+ degeneracy. Cygames apparently toned down the fanservice of the characters because they initially spooked a lot of owners with the original designs. The same thing could happen again and it absolutely could motivate either something being done by the western community to put a lid on westard shit, or the axing of the game's western release and a return to JP-only.
>>737451317Yea, this version of the internet sucks.It makes me genuinely want to kill everyone below the age of 30.The more I see the modern internet the more I understand why boomers hate everyone younger than them and want them to suffer, I think 40 years in the future when I'm an old man I will also do everything in my power to make sure that gen alpha suffers as much as humanly possible, because they're all horrible subhumans.
You want me to prevent other people from enjoying the thing I enjoy because they like it differently than I do?That's retarded and impossible anyway.More people should like the things I like.
>>737451247The people coming here are the same people who would've been coming here with the last breadth of relevance being the guys who thought this site's last post was a chicken jockey shitpost. You served your purpose in the past, but this place is just ground zero for advertising softcore gacha porn threads or screencapping twitter threads nowdays and recycling wojak memes. You should know the latter is irrefutable if we're the ones now down their pipeline.
>>737451140Unless you can give a clear reason why you like her, I'm going to assume you're a tourist who doesn't understand her.
>>737434705just make the barrier of entry hard, no RTS has any of these modern /v/ problems because it naturally filters the inbreds
>>737451339Why would I want the game I play to become something I can no longer play? Just to spite some faggot on twitter I didn't even know about until someone posted it here?Why are you, someone below even a secondary and operating entirely on incorrect memes he's heard from 6 years ago, trying to police the community at all?
>>737439021what gaem
>>737434656We're trying bro... We're trying
>>737451662I guess he does make a pretty good case in favor of gatekeeping
>>737451317I'm not exactly going to attribute that to 4chan, it's just the baseline when you can shitpost as much as you want similar to those screencaps of old gaming forums that are posted around sometimes of what people will say with anonymity or rather lack of consequence to posting inane shit, because you might as well go back and say 2chan or hell even SOMETHINGAWFUL won when these notions were present in how people post when given the chance anyway. It's like when /pol/ tries to copyright making shitposts about jews and singularly attribute it to themselves to attentionwhore when they're also washed up
>>737451662Why are you an EOP?
>>737451662>Why would I want the game I play to become something I can no longer play? Just to spite some faggot on twitter I didn't even know about until someone posted it here?Way to say you dont have a backbone and to out yourself as a degenerate fetish faggot who will willingly let them shit all over the place even if its uncalled for cause you dont want to be a meanie weenie
>>737451662You are the reason gaming is in the sad state its in
>>737451319What are your standards for shitty community here because I think Blue Archivefags are full of ironic weebs who just post UOOOOH all the time for social media engagement.
>>737451765Sure, it's not 100% 4chans doing, but the end result is the same: The experience people would get on 4chan back then now can be found everywhere else too. its kind of how alex jones is now old hat because his brand of apocalyptic, schizo discourse is just the average meta nowadays
>>737449020Are you incapable of thinking outside of absolutes? You can enjoy something without being deeply involved in it/its community. You can enjoy something a lot and simultaneously say you're not deep in the fandom. That said, if you really enjoy something and can contribute positively to discussion with the community, there's almost no reason you'd be kept out of the gate. It's just as important that gatekeeping lets some people in as it does keep them out.
>>737451904I, personally, think all gacha communities are shitty and fucking annoying desu.
>>737451959Tranny enabling faggot
>>7374515084chan really used to be the forefront of internet culture for so long. Then after Doge and pepe/wojack became mainstream this place just ceased to create anything new. Election was a tactical nuke on 4chan.
>>73743465690% of these cases are just the result of one fag making a popular video on something. What are you going to threaten every retard to not talk about a game in the event it randomly becomes successful?
>>737443046>>737442595there was one guy with a youtube channel that talked about BA for a year on twitter and he was just kicked out because he said "pls don't tell this tranny to kill himself" they are like dogs munching on this fag lol
>>737434656But gatekeeping doesnt work. people dont avoid making porn of their favorite characters just because you bitch a lot
>You can enjoy something without being deeply involved in it/its communityYeah its called being a faggot
>>737434656what was wrong with the Ace Attorney clown girl again? As a huge AA fan the 3DS and Apollo trilogy (if you can even call it that) games aren't exactly sacred
>>737451994This is why you're gatekept.
>>737439021>>737446675>>737447452based and true
>>737451996>Then after Doge and pepe/wojack became mainstream this place just ceased to create anything new.Honestly, that applies to the western internet as a whole.All memes got replaced with pepe/wojak edits.Election tourists genuinely ruined the entire internet.
>>737452031You literally do this every day of your life without realizing it. Which I suppose is consistent if you think it makes you a faggot.
>>737452047>41%Trannys get gatekept from life so it works out in the end desu
>>737451996Ideologie is the death of creativity. Back then people made jokes and memes because it was funny or edgy, nowadays every joke and every meme has to be to push one side of the culture war in one way or another, people have psyopped themselves into making propaganda and counter-propaganda for free
>>737443051Nta but you sound like an autistic dramafag with ego issues.
>>737452164Tranny enabling faggotKill yourselfYou are the cancer rotting the industry
>>737451317god, thisi just wanna go back to discussing videogames and making funny edits of memes
>>737452193All art is political :^)
>>737452213Name a single thing that makes you think of trannies with what you're replying to.
>>737451831>>737451878I don't go to twitter. I do not engage with twitter. I have less than zero interest in what people on twitter are doing. I am not about to stop liking something and start to actively wish for its destruction because of bad fanart from a corner of the internet I don't frequent. Should I have gone @NINTENDO @FBI @INTSYS DO SOMETHING when people on tumblr were making garbage fire emblem art too?And for your fucking information, the owners have already sat through people spamming ryona and gore at them directly. They are not about to stop the gravy train because of ONE shitty tranny fanart.
>>737452357you sound like you play those east europe indies and nothing moretwitter is full of art of games that doesnt get uploaded anywhere else
>>737452356>something without being deeply involved in it/its community. You can enjoy something a lot and simultaneously say you're not deep in the fandom. The only reason people do this is to seperate themselves from degenerate fags and trannies that ruin discussion and make everything about them.Why wouldnt we be talking about the No.1 reason to gatekeep anything?
>>737451940Yeah I can agree with that and 4chan certainly helped popularize what people were allowed to say in general by pushing the envelope because anything found funny by normalfags would be accepted and disseminated when exported as a funny screencap and anything too edgy would just be chalked up to "oh its just 4chan ofc"
>>737452467If it's not on a booru, I don't care
>>737452467>twitter is full of art of games that doesnt get uploaded anywhere elseI don't care about western art, and a lot of eastern artists have finally started to wean themselves off of Twatter thanks to Elon's obsession with AIslop and all the Grok spam, so not my problem.
>>737437761This is genuinely one of the few cases where some big name youtuber tried to shill it and it failed, the playerbase for this game is, at large, just about the same size as it was when it came out.There's no discussion online for Cruelty Squad because its a game for autists with an aesthetic for a certain kind of autist and a story you need to play the game to understand. Another case of this is Sseth and Underrail, most retards who tried to pick the game up likely gave up at Old Junkyard and never picked it back up. There is SOME hype for the sequel but only from the current playerbase, not from anyone who played the (for now) first game and one-and-done'd it and waited for a sequel like it was the case with Slay the Spire or Hollow Knight.
>>737451996I unironically blame the moderation being full corporate no fun allowed while not actually doing jack shit to improve the site. If we had today's moderation all those years back, they'd mow down every single one of those livestream.com fun times
>>737452357Problem is alot of you are cucks who will give into peer pressure for social acceptance. Collectively simply tell then they are not welcome you call them out, and make them uncomfortable. they have had these tactics laid out since they made themselves a protected minority. https://youtu.be/tJCDe7vdFfw?si=jFuSSxP7IUfFVXl1
>>737452661Another example of this is Gmanlives with Beyond Citadel, since that's also a game that's mostly only going to attract a certain type of person, and Youtube normalfags are not that type of person.
>>737452664Its funny, cause people didnt bother to gatekeep and now the fags and troons that were made fun of and ostracized that hate this site with a passion now run the site with impunity.
>>737451534large breasts and eyeliner
>>737434705singleplayer games can be gatekept by their creators adding elements which immediately turn away most normies. there is unfortunately not much a player can do.multiplayer games can be gatekept by relentless hostility in the community and in game, and as a player it is your civic duty to contribute to this hostility.
>>737452810anon, the fags and troons were always here, they didn't invade from anywhere
>>737451317>now you even have the fucking White House official account making edgy posts that would not be out of place around these partsThere is a clear lack of kike jokes though.
>>737452860They were always second class citizens and punching bags. This was never your hugbox troon and the proof is in the pudding - the moderation hates this site. You think some basedjack /pol/ user would have run this site the same way? The reason why the sharty hack was so fruitful was because it showed how they consolidated power and how they UNIRONICALLY gatekeep the moderation staff so that its all faggots who want to make sure this site stays unusable.
>>737451317>This is what victory looks like, I'm afraid, and it sucks2016 really was the worst thing that coul'dve happened to this place. The website of losers somehow 'winning' has been like the dog finally catching up to the car only to end up getting mangled by its wheels
>>737449838>looks up a walkthrough on xvideoswhat now
>>737447549>I thought Touhou was immunelmao, you can't be this new.
>>737452478>The only reason people do this is to seperate themselves from degenerate fags and trannies that ruin discussion and make everything about them.There are tons of reasons not to get deeply involved in a community, the most obvious just simply being time. If you were less autistic, you might realize how many of these communities you're missing out on in your day-to-day life. As an example with videogames, I've played through several Etrian Odyssey games. I've never gotten involved in the community though because I play very casually over long periods of time, and frankly don't have time to get involved in deep discussion and debate about the game. Similarly, I've watched a lot of Kamen Rider stuff and even subbed a few things for people here for some series when my interest was peaked, having seen the majority of Showa up until Reiwa series, but I don't bother to get involved in communities around it anymore simply because I'm not familiar with any of the newer series, and I have other things to spend time on. >Why wouldnt we be talking about the No.1 reason to gatekeep anything?Idiots and retards exist too. I suppose you haven't been on the internet long enough to remember a time before people online were only afraid of trannies.
>>737453008>They were always second class citizens and punching bags.Nigger, it's an anonymous website, we're all second class citizens.
I don't need to. Mecha gatekeeps itself by being for hyper autists. The worst it'll ever get is Gundam cause that's main stream and they'll rarely if ever dive deeper than that.
>>737453106TLDR faggot. Your a gaping axewound that is only tolerated until you inevitably kill yourself. Save everyone some time and patience.
>>737453238Troons have never been accepted here. Kill yourself
This whole yap about gatekeeping from /v/tards the people who only play gacha games and nintendo titles is very funny to me.
>>737452835You know you can find that on thousands of other girls, right?
>>737453256*WOOOSH*I now curse you with a trans pride zaku 2 announcement in 2 days
>>737453291Real shame we didn't gatekeep Redditors like you.
Whats with this place and its staunch defense of gaping axewound mentally ill degenerates?
>>737453332I would tell you to go back to /pol/, but you won, so I'll just tell you to enjoy the world you helped create.
>>737453427>le plebbitKek you really need to kill yourself already
>>737434656yes, I'll never tell you you stupid retards what games I play. I'll never enter topics to discuss them. You'll never fucking see me even talking about videogames at all.
>>737453494I didnt win anything but you troons still constantly infesting my site instead of fucking off to SA or over a bridge
>>737453427>>737453494It is just a troll false flagging and shitting up the thread because he got gatekept in the past.
>>737453424I already said I don't care about Gundam, it's already bad with Gcucks and its lesbians and trannies as mouth breathers who like IBO. They don't dive into other series, so Gundam itself is a gatekeeper.
>>737453338Especially considering they are all trannies anyways.
>>737436395What exactly did BA do?
>>737434705there's a ton of stuff that will fall out of mode as soon as millennials die because its pure 90's copiumphysical trading card games, the idea of siloed fandoms, non-video boards, etc.
>>737453671Be super racist and horny that it make people really dislike them. Can't fault it if it works.
>>737453640More like I failed to properly gatekeep and now I had to see Pride Flags and Trans colored armor in my games before going fully /vr/
>>737434656>Unintentionally gate kept himself
>>737453827And then /v/ will go on a frothing rage on how trannies were always heckin here and wholesome and just want to fit in lolThis happens EVERYWHERE they go.
>>737453750>Racist and horny I understand the horny part but where does the racism come from? Is it just the momoi memes or something actually canon in the game?
>>737453719And the gayest generation ever in history will most definately fix everything amirite
>>737453783I still need to play this
>>737454009>/v/Those are tranny invaders who pretend they aren't tourists.
>>737434656We're at the point where White people can't even gatekeep White Supremacy, no really.We got every shade of minority in the White Supremacist movement, White Supremacy is now a big tent party.If you can't even gatekeep that, what makes you think gaming can be gatekeeped?
>>737453827>ScpMan I haven't seen this in a loooong time. Was wondering where some of the entries went Is there an archive of classic SCP stuff before the infiltration?
>>737434656Just talk about it with them. If they say they're a huge fan of Animal Crossing, start talking about ALL the games, not just New Horizon. They'll either get embarrassed or uncomfortable
>>737453827This just reiterates that unless you have actual power, you can't gatekeep anything. It's dependant entirely on moderation.
>>737454076>white supremacyMore of a means to an end for alot of people with anti globohomo sentiments because no other nationalist movement is actively seeding information and spreading its message against our oppressors like White Supremacy does. You are useful idiots right now. When a Francoist Spain returns or a Mussolini in italy you will see less people adopting "White Supremacy". It really is the Anti Woke "Wokeness" people galvanize under.
>>737454076>the face of white supremacy today is Nicholas Taco ChupacabraSad but very funny.
>>737454035While some posts are momoi being racist memes, others are legit racist things from people like "HitlerCunnyRapist420". ironically a lot of them are from SEA. So you end up with really racist filipino femboys as the face of your community.
>>737440045>hundreds of millions in sales65 million sales, including the remake of 3 that just releasednowhere near "hundreds"
>>737454180>They'll either get embarrassed or uncomfortableThis is delusional. Nobody is going to get uncomfortable or embarrassed because you start talking about the older entries.
What was bottom left in the original again?
>>737435215You're retarded. Both of those games existed for years before normies found it. Can't be that appealing then can it? It only became appealing to them cause they were told to like it
>>737454521Go ahead and watch those starforce fags squirm when you bring up Classic. How RE fags get silent when you bring up Zero. This is true for /v/ at least because nobody wants to be seen as a casual.
>gatekeepingWhat are you gonna do, call me a faggot on /v/?Damn bro, you really showed me...