Why do people consider this better than Ocarina of Time?
Still the best swimming in the series by far
>>737442769Just don't touch the 3DS version lmao.>>737442497It's a living world. 3 days of every character having a schedule that you can interact with and change by your choices.The dungeons are solid, decent music (including the actual Zelda main theme unlike OoT).MM is absolutely the better game.But it should always be played second.
>>737442497It was just more fun to figure out.
You actually get to be a hero. For example, when you beat Goht you stop the endless winter the Gorons were trapped in, even simply getting to Snowpoint has Link do good. Meanwhile, Zora's Domain always stays frozen even after beating Morpha in OoT, the only "heroing" is unfreezing King Zora
>>737442497Nobody does
>>737442497people? only subhumans think fedora's mask is better than oot
>>737443287>Zora's Domain always stays frozen even after beating Morpha in OoTThis would be the only change that Nintendo could make to the alleged remake that I'd like.They won't though.Aonuma couldn't even give Akkala Citadel a proper interior in TotK even though Koei Tecmo fully modeled it for Age of Calamity.
>>737443362subhumans praise Majora's and spit on OoT. I like MM more but I still love OoT
>>737442497Never understood the appeal of Majora's Mask. Feels like the only reason people like it is because it's darkest game in the series.
>>737442497Reasons I personally prefer it>Improves the way Link controls>More focus on creating an immersive world>Better OST>More memorable story not that OoT was bad either>Has occult stuff like the flatwoods monster
>>737442497i really like the NPC behavior and how each one has their own schedule and how by learning their behaviors you can solve quests down the line or find a mask. Only game I can think of that really does that
Everyone ripped off Ocarina of Time while almost nobody ripped off Majora's Mask so the latter feels more unique and fresh now
>>737443287>um yea, i dont like this game cause i didnt "feel" like a hero...low literacy gameplaylets are not allowed opinions
>>737442497I personally don't.I don't like how MM handles its time loop. It's still a Zelda game but now with more stres and wasted time. Stray fairies are annoying too.Still better than TotK though.
>>737442497Its like actual Zelda, but in 3dNot the shitty moviegame thats OoT that zoomers larp like its TRUE ZELDA
>main dungeons have more intricate gimmicks involving manipulation of the entire dungeon>transformation masks offer more unique scenarios>better enemy variety and minibosses>Termina Field and the surrounding areas have more varied level design which makes finding secrets more fun>NPCs are objectively more fleshed out and interesting>significantly more optional dungeons and side content
>>737442497Contrarianism.
>737444673yes I too saw the funny anti-OoT posts in BotW threads
>Facebook posting Pragmata nigger dictating what's actual Zelda and what's not
>>737445484>Wind waker fag thinking his opinion mattersLmao
>>737442497Dungeons are more complex and fun to navigate.Gameplay, items and mechanics are overall more polished and streamlined.3-day limit makes the exploration more compelling since you get a reason to revisit areas now after your progress is undone.Side quests being intricate adventure game logic puzzles where you need to figure out what masks to use where (and when) based on context clues is probably some of the most creative type of content in any Zelda game.Goron and Zora are fun to play as.
>>737442769Until you get the Zora mask anyway. They straight up removed super swimming.
It was part of contrarianism. When majoras mask came out it wasn't what OoT fans were expecting and thus there was an initial backlash at the time. I remember it because I felt this backlash personally.Then when YouTube started becoming a thing you had this stupid contrarian "hidden gem" mindset where people were first saying "you need to appreciate the game for what it is, not for what it isn't" which slowly morphed into "this game is underappreciated" which then got pushed by the internet exaggeration machine into "actually, this is superior to ocarina of time".It's similar to how the minor annoyance of Navi in Ocarina of Time got exaggerated by the internet into being this meme of complete obnoxiousness even though it wasn't that bad.It was an early sign of what the internet would do to fanbases and opinions. Exaggerate and amplify very small opinions as well as having contrarian opinions that oscillate back and forth.Now we're actually seeing the opposite wave, with people pretending majoras mask is complete dogshit as backlash to the unjust glazing it received over the last 2 decades online.Majoras mask is a good game but just not close to ocarina of time.
>>737442497as other anons have said, the world outside of the main quest is infinitely more interesting due to the circumstances of the end of the world and the time mechanics.
>>737442497I liked the mood of the world better. Termina felt alive and fraught with tension. Hyrule felt empty in comparison.
>>737446561wow spoiler that
>>737442497Pure, unchecked autism. The game literally is filled with shit autists enjoy, like repeating the same things over and over again.
>>737442497Because it's better, it's not that complicated.
>>737446946That reminds me of Mamame
>>737442497You had to have been there.
>>737442497I always thought it was link's decent into madness as he traversed the lost woods trying to seek out navi before getting a blowdart to the eye and turning into a stalfos.
>>737446332You are a faggot. No one cared about internet talk when MM happened.
>>737448062You don't get to talk about eras you weren't alive for zoomie. GameFAQs was bigger than you thought.
>>737448146I bet you say that to all the ladies
>>737448320NTA but what does that even mean, stop trying to sound cool you retarded zoom-zoom
>>737448347You don't know what a lady is?
>>737443669You gotta play OoT first to really appreciate it. I like MM better but I mostly just see them as the same game.
>>737448431I am a lady
>>737448431
>>737442497because they couldnt beat OOT
>>737448640Do you think this is a game?
MM cut out 4 dungeons to save time.OoT had 15
>>737449739Making the world at large as interactive as a dungeon was a major upside though. Hyrule Field may as well have been a hallway.
>>737449909Another downside is riding Epona in Termina felt boring because the maps are too cluttered
>>737442497Only retarded homosexual performative hipsters do
>>737450086Yeah, but rolling around as a goron felt amazing instead.
>>737451062until you ran out of pp
>>737451603drink da milk
>>737442497The world feels more alive and while it has a few tedious lows and fewer dungeons it's just fun getting all of the masks and heart pieces. I don't know if I would say it's better than Ocarina but I like them about the same.
>>737451648Why does she like shotas so much?
>>737442497Why does this game make brownoids on /v/ so mad? You only see this sort of brownoid rage for this game here.
>>737442497It has emotion and presentation that OOT lacks big time.
>beat the beavers not knowing you hold the swim button downWhy did I like pain as a child.
>>737454581Browns don't have any concept of time management or future thinking. Majora's Mask is impossible for their brains to comprehend or have patience for.
>>737454446Link saved her sister, saved her farm, saved her livelihood, and saved the world shortly after, the least he could get is a paizuri.
>>737456076Bro she absolutely let him pop her cherry. AND paizuri, of course.
because it is
>>737446332>majora's mask>youtubeyou weren't born lmao
>>737457438>anon incapable of understanding even the smallest morsel of context
i think majoras mask has a stronger emotional core and affixes itself more deeply in your soul
I like its central gimmickI like the dungeons moreClock Town is the best hub in the seriesTransformation masks are funIce arrows actually got to be useful for onceIt's the most fun Zelda to 100%
>>737442497Ocarina of Time was solid but easy as hell, and mostly a retread of LttP but in 3D. Majora's Mask? There's nothing like MM in the franchise, it's weird, it's a bit more challenging, it respect the player but also asks that you really strive to see and resolve everything. There's value in tradition and standardization, and there's equal value in experimenting with something that wants to try something very different.
>>737442497I was always blown away by how alive Clock town felt, there was nothing else on the N64 that had NPCs that really felt like they were living (animal crossing didn't hit the west until GC).To this day the people in clock town are impressive, they had such detailed schedules for a game on the N64 and everyone felt like they were part of it.The atmosphere and eerie unsettling nature of it really made it shine of course, but if everyone just stood around for 3 days it wouldn't have hit the same way.
>>737442497I'm sad the series will never ever even come close to reaching the run it had with ALttP to LA to OoT to MM. Absolute peak. Everything that came out afterwards completely pales in comparison. That goes for 2D and 3D.
>>737442497Has improvements across the board >more alive world >more condensed over world that rewards exploration more along with being funner traverse and more tightly designed >arguably better ost but both are masterclass>a unique story >a complete unique concept yet to replicated >doubles the horror atmosphere of the original >the transformations are all fun and add to links Moveset >dungeons are all fantastic, although I still prefer OOT spirit temple over all >better bosses across the board and to top it off every side quest is rewarding, if not a mask you get a heart, if not either you get a cute storyline that adds to the world, most times you get all three. I still think some sections bring it down total compared to ocarina but both games are peak Zelda/nintendo
>>737442497because it is a tighter experience with a better feel and OST, higher quality dungeons, bosses, characters and quests. I played both on release as a kid but MM made me a fan on the spot
>>737444074nigger, oot link is the hero of time and he does far more in Majora's Mask to be a hero than in the prequel
>>737442497because they're contrarian faggots who need to feel different
The threat is more present. The world feels more reactive. The stakes feel significantly more personal you feel a closer connection to the characters within the world.
le atmosphere
>>737442497I like OoT better since all around it's a pretty much perfectly executed adventure, but I can see why people would like MM more. The living world, the quests, optional content and sense of progression once you do something is pretty good. It's amazing how this is a 5th generation game.
>>737460095ok?
>>737460367Recently replayed OOT pc version and now going through MM's pc decomp. While I have fonder memories of OOT from my childhood, I can't lie to myself and pretend it's even close to MM. If the game started on inverted song of time by default a lot of normies would have struggled less and it would have been better received. It's amazing how well the scheduled NPCs and events hold the game up even to this day.
>>737460927Yeah I get it anon, but I like the simplicity of OoT as wellAnyway, I recommend the MM Reloaded texture pack, it's really faithful to the original and makes the game look way better
>>737442497it improves on formula and makes npc feel real
>>737443287In OoT you rid Kokiri of monsters and rescue each individual goron from a cage waiting to be devoured. As a child you kill the parasite infesting the Great Deku Tree, regain access for the goron to their food source, and personally rescue Ruto from inside Jabu-Jabu.The dungeons all had story-telling incorporated into them. Ruto in Jabu Jabu + Water Temple, the Gorons in Fire Temple, Nabooru in the Spirit Temple. In Majora you just go in, and when you come out everything is better now. OoT did it better.>>737446332Pretty much this. OoT was THE video game. It was and arguably still is the golden standard. No other game was constantly hailed as the greatest of all time as much. Majora's mask attracted contrarians by being the "other." If Majora had been praised as much as OoT at launch, everyone would be talking about how "underrated" and 2deep4u Ocarina is.
>>737442497>upgraded gameplay mechanics>better world>better graphics>masks are interesting and funMM's weakness is that dungeons are based around more timewasting bullshit than Ocarina of Time's. A lot of MM's dungeons feature platforming with long falls that make you have to spend two minutes getting back up to wherever you were to try again where OOT didn't have that problem. I think Ocarina of Time is a flawless game while MM is a better game.
>>737442497>why do people consider poop better than shit?who cares? the n64 is trash.
>>737442497Because it is, but it requires an IQ above 120 to realize.
>>737442497>be American millennial>live in cozy upper-middle class area>soccer mom buys you a Nintendo 64 because The 700 Club told her that PlayStation games have blood>parents can also afford you to buy the entire Rareware library>since you are rich and American, your family are also early adopters of the internet>lo and behold, everyone else online is also a rich American from a Nintendo 64 household>Ocarina group masturbation session ensues>The internet universally agrees that ReDeads are the scariest things ever invented because none of you ever played Silent Hill>Internet gaming culture is built upon the idea that everyone owned a Nintendo 64 and everyone agrees Ocarina of Time is unambiguously the best game ever made>Fast forward 20 years>Euros, Aussies, and working class Americans are now online>You find out that the Nintendo 64 absolutely fucking bombed outside of middle America and nobody gives a fuck about Ocarina of Time>Even in the US the N64 was massively outsold by the PS1, let alone abroad>Persecution complex ensues>"This can't be........did.....did I shit my pants over Wind Waker's graphics for nothing?">Start calling Ocarina underrated due to the fact that people who've played more than 1 fucking game don't think it's the best
>>737442497clock town is cozy
>>737466793I think my favorite part of this pasta is the association between the N64 and the internet before its takeover by the third world, like you're supposed to implicitly understand that a discussion being overwhelmed by worthless brownoid opinions is a good thing.
I don't know. Replaying it right now. Feels like busy work with the schedules. Lots of waiting. Even getting and using the mask of truth to ask stones is busy work. Maybe it's cause I don't care for Zelda NPCs like most people do. It's worse in the n64 version.
>>737442497Because it feels like a living world.
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