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oh no you can't buy years old handheld pc. maybe should've boughtered it when it still could run games.get some more modern one if you must have one of those things or get it used for cheap at least
>>737481176Yeah a modern one, like ..uh um
>>737481176Deck still mogs all other handhelds
I don't like playing games on tiny screens so that's a pass.
>>737481176steam deck can't run games? what the fuck
>>737481302valve is famously the only maker of handheld pcs
>>737482192there's a million different "handheld PCs" aka tablets with built-in controllers that run windows
>>737481095The Steam Deck isn't even the best option anymore so I don't see why you're complaining. Just get the AYN Thor or the Lelnovo Legion Go S.
>>737484360Just install troonix on the better hardware? You ARE an epic leet hacker, right?
>>737486864>copying a Linux img/iso file onto a micro SD card is now a "leet hacker" skill
>>737487005yeah installing linux isn't the 1337/H4x0R part. trying to make anything run on linux is the difficult part
>>737487105It's not 2015 anymore. Pretty much everything is just point and click.
>mfw bought mine last yearbest purchase I made in the last 5 years
>>737481095>spending 600+ on a 'eck in 2026Yikes.
>>737481095I genuinely feel bad for anyone who wasn't able to pick one up. Literally a childhood dream device.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I NEED TO SCREENSHOT THE MAIN MENU OF A GAME FOR REDDIT KARMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAFUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK YOUUUUUUUU GAAAAAAAAAAAAABE
>>737487203uh huh, unless you try to install something that isn't in the app-store version of linux
>>737487374such as? we're talking about games here. all GOG games are literally point and click installers and Steam is also identical to how it works on Windows.
>>737487469a browser and no, we're talking about the OS here
I bought my oled deck for 350, like new, off facebook marketplace.I mostly use in bed or when traveling
>>737481095you had 5 years
>>737487519>a browsernigger all relevant and even slightly less relevant browsers are available on linux. the fuck are you talking about?
>>737487519Dude you haven't the faintest clue what you're talking about
I bought the most expensive LCD deck when it was 10% off then they came out with the OLED I was scammed now my L and R buttons are because they are SHITTILY DESIGNED AND WEAR OUT WITH NORMAL USE
>>737487519>no, we're talking about the OS here>in a Steam Deck threadNo, we're talking about the ability to install and play games. Nothing else is relevant.
>>737487582I'm talking about specific things that aren't in the app-store
>>737487689I have a launch day lcd deck I use nearly every day and my shoulder triggers are still fine.Valve let people trade theirs in if they ordered close to when the oled dropped too.
>>737487689ifixit
>>737487805>Valve let people trade theirs in if they ordered close to when the oled dropped toosince fucking when >>737487894it only has parts for the OLED if the switch on the lcd deck for the bumpers goes bad you are FUCKED
>>737481095Valve is hopefully making a sd 2 while the stock is gone. It is the best chance now and they could incorporate the new steam controller 2 features into it.
Been using mine in desktop mode for kenshiHoping I can just replace that with the cube if it ever comes out
>>737487374Lol even then shit from the software managers don't work. Shit from flatpaks don't work or take up half your storage. Linux sucks
>>737487752You're not talking about anything specific at all.
>>737487969When the OLED dropped. If he’s talking about what I think he’s talking about, there was like a month window where people who would’ve ordered the OLED but didn’t know about it or perhaps had pre-ordered the LCD a long time ago we were able to return their brand new mint condition LCDs and trade them in.
>>737487689>then they came out with the OLED>I was scammed You didn't buy the one with the screen that burns in in a year so no, you were smart.
>>737487752What "App Store"?KDE Discover, Gnome Software, and all the others are just graphical front ends for the same package managers you would use on the command line.You can also use AppImages, which work basically like the App Directories on MacOS.
>>737488328>burn-in on a handheldhow do you manage that?
>>737488593He's clearly just shitposting. There's no such thing as a web browser that doesn't work on Linux, aside from platform specific web browsers like Safari or extremely niche one-man projects.
>>737488652I only play Crush Crush and the interface is burned in
Guys I really want a handheld, android or steamos doesn't matter. I don't know which one to get, they're literally all out of stock, have poor software support. I want to play light steam games, switch, PSP emulation and such. I'd also like an Oled screen since I play in the dark Will steam deck ever restock?
>>737488593>>737488845>Pretty much everything is just point and clickthis is what I'm disagreeing with and if you claim I'm wrong, then you're the one who's shitposting>doesn't work on Linuxeverything works on linux, most people simply don't bother to make it work
>>737488973in a few years after ram prices settle
>>737481095Got a 512GB OLED one. Use it every day since I got it in 2024. It’s very nice.
>>737488973>Will steam deck ever restock?give it a few years
>>73748897910 posts later and you still haven't named the web browser that apparently doesn't have a Linux version but you so desperately want to use it anyway.>Pretty much everything is just point and clickThis is not the case in any OS, but Linux is not that far off from Windows and macOS. If anything most things are simpler on Linux compared to Windows.
>>737489137can you not read? I said it was not in the app-store (KDE Discover, not that it matters) and I had to use command lines to install it. btw the reason why I needed that browser was because the "security measures" of the regular firefox stopped things from working
>>737487894Unless you need to replace that whole daughterboard
>>737482192It can’t run Doom, not a PC. Over reliance on Proton software is going to kill the device when Proton eventually stops being useful.
>>737489454The only way proton ever stops being useful is if game development completely pivots away from windows and that's when it's no longer needed and it has done its job and will not be updated again as they made everything work
>>737489454>It can’t run Doomit...it literally canare you retarded?
>>737489540ye people will stop using windows and switch over to linux. Just 2 more weeks.
>>737489321Can you not read? WHAT IS DA BROWSA NAME NIGGA
>>737481095Can't have shit in detroit
>>737489023>>737489119damn... Is there any other option for handheld gaming? I could try to get my switch jailbroken I guess
>>737489668firefox developer edition
>>737489650Funny copeIt's only getting fasterWhen valve drops SteamOS to be the default distro that OEMs can ship on their prebuilts and laptops it's basically over
>>737481095Valve is just reserving the RAM for the Steam Machines.
>>737481095A friend gave me his old one when he got an OLED one, and I don't use it for handheld games much. It's wasted on me.
>>737489710there's a million options, but the deck is the best one (for me). just watch some youtube video comparing them or something
>>737489540>Mac becomes superior due to AI technology>Mac apps becomes game changing>Proton and Steam Deck become uselessThe future is now old man
>>737490008mac can't even do this right
just buy a Legion Go or something, they have versions that run SteamOS perfectly because they paid Valve to do it
>>737490008>MacYou mean the device that's hostile to gaming and backwards compatibility?The one whose silicon doesn't have vulkan?The one that's being dominated by Linux on the steam survey?The one whose selling point isn't even down to them but another company?That one?
>>737490309We should ban consoles and watch them fling shit at each other They're already a minority
You can buy them secondhand, and even repairing them is quite easy; spare parts are still available. I've been thinking about getting a Steam Deck motherboard to modder in a mini PC or laptop.
Valve should just invest all their yacht money into building RAM factories
>>737490372>you're in the minorityNintendo is the best selling platform by far and the most popular on /v/.You snoys/PC snoys don't have a single popular meme on this board and little influence on board culture.
>>737481095Make a pocket sized one already, gaben. I am not lugging around a fucking brick on my commute.
>>737489719https://www.firefox.com/en-US/channel/desktop/developer/Has it available to simply download and run. No command line interface required if you don't want to use it.
>>737490312Gaming on mac is possible, many have Mac versions you know.vulkan is useless, let it go. No one actually uses it.Linux numbers are bot related, we talked about this and how it’s used to get CSGO/TF2 lootbox.Valve can’t even decide to release games in a proper manner. You don’t have any right over that when Valve still does not release Deadlock.
>>737490550Why are you delusional like this? You do know that pc is almost as big as all the consoles combined right?Add the higher expectations of people on this board and it's easy to say that pc dominates
>>737490551Probably a few years to go until you can fit a machine that can manage Deck-level performance in a pocketable form factor.We will probably see one more SKU generation for the current Deck before we see either a Deck Mini or a Deck 2.
>>737481095Should have been checking it every day in february when they were advertising the restock.
>>737490550lol the vast majority of people here use PC for gaming.Maybe in the US it would be a 50 / 50 console/pc split, but since this site is used by the entire globe it is easily 80-90% pcfags
>>737490817>Gaming on mac is possible, many have Mac versions you know.is possible is completely different to making developers spend billions on porting to iToysand that's the strategy apple chose>vulkan is useless, let it go. No one actually uses it.that's just cope, it's the foundation of proton and soon when it expands to arm you'd have to be a retard to cling to directx>Linux numbers are bot related, we talked about this and how it’s used to get CSGO/TF2 lootbox.bots don't submit surveys you fucking idiot >Valve can’t even decide to release games in a proper manner. You don’t have any right over that when Valve still does not release Deadlock.relevance? also you're esl lmao
>>737491196this site is 80% US
>>737481095everyone probably bought them when that big cs2 windfall happened when all the red skins were suddenly worth 10x as much
>>737491290lol no
>>737487203>It's not (10+ years ago) anymore. Pretty much everything is just point and click.This is what they said ten years ago and it's what they'll be saying in another 10+ years. When will it actually be true?
>>737491391cope
>>737491290tendies just love shitting out their gut feelings and presenting them as facts don't they?
>>737491453You're the one coping.US was barely 50% of the traffic in in 2021.Nowadays is probably 40% considering how many jeets have entered the western internet
>>737490817>vulkan is useless, let it go. No one actually uses it.Amusingly the most common way for game developers to support MacOS is to use MoltenVK which lets them use Vulkan for Metal.>Linux numbers are bot relatedBots don't opt-in to the survey.
>>737482192Correct.Why?>TrackpadsUntil Chinkhelds have>TrackpadsI don't give a shit about them.
>>737481095>without PSUwhen was this added
>>737481095just get a legion go nigga
>>737481302GPDwin5>>737481095Don't advertise that degenerate company.
>>737489454>when Proton eventually stops being useful....So, never?
>>737491790>$2k for a device with no oled and an unusably small trackpad
>>737491549this is all US, then you add the other EU vassal states like Germany and Sweden and it's easily 80%. "4chan is overran by russian bots, I mean jeets, I mean chinks" is a massive cope on the part of ESLs. this really is America
>>737491446Windows users trying out GNU/Linux based systems often confuse the directions shared among experienced UNIX Gurus to most efficiently use their systems, as the only way you can do things. You can still do many things the inefficient GUI way if you want, but nobody is going to hold your hand to walk you through that for free.Anyone who has had to experience the hell that is trying to provide technical support to Windows users understands why.It is the same reason Microsoft has had to add a Linux subsystem that provides a real command line interface. Supporting Windows users problems in the GUI was too expensive.
>>737491630Until Valve offers a deck without trackpads, I won't give a shit about them.>just don't use themThey're taking up real estate that could be used for something else, like better button/stick placement or a superior track ball. Track pads are the worst UID available and their existence is an active detriment to any device they're attached to.
>>737491904Ok? All the countries you mentioned overwhelmingly play on PCMutts really are retarded, huh?
>>737492041do you even have any UMPC at all?
>>737492041Anon, have you used a Steam Deck or the Steam Controller?It works just like a trackball. You can even feel it roll thanks to the haptics.It isn't using the Microsoft Windows trackpad driver.
>>737491904>tendie makes a wild guess based on nothing >makes up schizo cope to defend being wrong Pathological lying, also known as pseudologia fantastica (Latin for "fantastic pseudology"), is a chronic behavior characterized by the habitual or compulsive tendency to lie. It involves a pervasive pattern of intentionally making false statements with the aim to deceive others, sometimes for no clear or apparent reason, and even if the truth would be beneficial to the liar. People who engage in pathological lying often report being unaware of the motivations for their lies.[1][2][3][4][5]
>>737492065>the countries you mentioned overwhelmingly play on PCsays who? consoles dominate in the 1st world. 4chan is a special case because there are a lot of millennials here, who started on PC and stayed on PC. zoomers play on consoles
>>737492231Nigga do you really want me to show you even more statistics proving you wrong? Nevermind, you are actually braindead. Not worth arguing with a monkey like you
>>737492227I'm a PC fag, you absolute retard
>>737488327when did the OLED come out
>>737492335then why are you coming up with schizo copes to cover for the delusional tendie?
>>737490309looks like sweeny is still butthurtposting about steam (and that's a GOOD thing)
>>737492290>implying you proved me wrong in past
>>737492401because he's right
>>737492134NTA but I use a XAX and never felt the need to use trackpads. I guess if you only play retro PC games with no controller support, but that's a very niche use case.
>>737492452objectively notyou made up some retarded clause unprompted to cover for the fact he was guessing
My $800 rog ally x 24gb mogs the fuck out of this kiddie hardware. Probably over $1k now sadly but at least I got mine. Pull yourselves up by your bootstraps
>>737492670>kiddie hardware nigger you have no trackpads, it's objectively kiddie hardware since you have no mouse
>>737482192valve is famously the only maker of handheld pcs with usable trackpads, which all handheld PCs should honestly have.
>>737492725You can use touchscreen and the analog stick as a mouse. It also has 3 usb-c ports so you can just plug in a mouse.
>>737492725If I press LB my analog stick turns into a mouse. I don’t need trackpads, they’re an inferior input method anyway.
>>737492785>he isnt autistic enough to play rts games on a handheld with a trackpadI hope you don't call yourself a gamer.
>>737492864>playing rts games on that tiny ass screenEven if I was still 14 and with good eyesight I wouldn't do it. Minimum screen I'd go for is LeGO2, which ironically does have a touchpad and mouse mode.
I like my deck, it does what I want it to. My main concern is when the cube and the vr set come out that they're going to entirely drop the deck and focus all steamOS development towards the more dedicated hardware end. Which will be good, but I just fear the deck is going to go by the wayside and stop getting meaningful updates.
Do 3rd party docks work well enough? I already have bluetooth mouse + keyboard but it's still awkward to play at an angle without a dock
>>737493138Handheld market is huge now, i doubt valve just drop it entirely.
>>737481095Worthless trash.
>>737492864I already played age of mythology on my shitty ass lenovo laptop with a trackpad back in highschool. It wasn't really a fun experience and I have no idea why Steamies keep acting like it is. Probably just buyer's remorse to justify their purchase.
The steam deck sold like shit in it's lifetimedon't act like there's any demand for it now besides scalpers trying to have it to resell it for $1000 now that it's discontinued due to it's failure
>>737492864>>737493132>>737493434I don't get why people are making arguments for this when you can just use a mouse if you so desire. Same way you are not stuck on a laptop with a track pad, you are not stuck with the trackpads on the deck. It's that simple.
>>737493434Laptop trackpads are completely different to deck trackpads you idiot
>>737493516>The steam deck sold like shit in it's lifetimehow can something that sells out multiple times with high-demand "sell like shit"?
>>737493593>handheld>mouseOr you could just play it on your computer.
>>737493671what if I want to play at a Cafe or on the plane?
>>737493595For RTS games? Not really.
>underpowered on release>now 4 years old on top of that>4 years of handheld PC alternatives since thenWhat am I missing that still makes people want an 'eck specifically?
my steam deck turned into a laptop for me. Installing windows dual boot was like THE best decision I ever made. I use it for everything I used to use my little inspiron for (RIP), plus I can game on it.
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>>737493908Yes, really Thumb Vs index finger
>>737493938It gets support and nearly every game that gets a specific handheld settings profile is targetting the deck specifically.The competition is usually using a Z2E which is marginally stronger at best, or the new AMD chipset which is stronger but also runs more than $1000. Look at the fucking xbox ally X.
>>737493938Oled and trackpads. And the price.
>>737493938It is still the best performance / price deal out there.Anything like the Steam Deck in performance is easily 2x the price
>>737481095you really don't need to play vidya everywhere you go
>>737494012>>737494018>>737494062fair enough, thanks anons
>>737493982Not really. I tried playing AoE2 on the steam controller and it was ass. Just plug in a mouse.
>>737494012>The competition is usually using a Z2E which is marginally stronger at bestZ2E Misleading. Z2E is 50% stronger at 21W and above. Only at low wattages do they perform similarly, but you can also just grab a cheap chinkheld if you exclusively play low wattage games (usually indies and emulation).
>>737494082A shit ton of the early competitors had horrendous flaws, too.The MSI claw was a complete fuckup using an intel chipset that just did not work in a small formfactor, riddled with FPS issues and overheats. The lenovo go had extreme battery issues with those fuckhuge joycon things, bringing a 20wh larger battery more in line with the deck.And the ally was overheating so severely that you couldn't actually put it to full wattage or you'd get perf 10w below it. Crazy shit. Also it was devouring microSD cards. nom nom nom. Took a good 3 years for them to get the design kinks worked out, the recent launch of the new xbox ally and the new lenovo device are the only decent ones.Chinkhelds like the GPD line are cool but they have severe support problems, GPD will put out 1 or 2 devices every year, and when the new one comes out they typically stop supporting the old, usually not an issue (I have a winmax4 and it works JUST fine to this day) but can quickly become one if big updates happen.>>737494207sure and the only device to let it go above 21w was the ally which fried itself and it's hardware due to heat choking it out, forcing it to throttle. Technicalities don't matter if there's no real world use case.
>>737494207>6 times the price for 2x the performancewow!!what a steal!
>>737494330>legion go 2That is what happens when you let Redditors design a handheld.
>>737490309
>>737494274Z2E devices handle 21W+ just fine? The OG Ally was Z1E.
>>737494330Glad I got my AllyX for $800 before the AI scam.
>>737494472Yeah I think the gpdwin5 can push 35W+ just fine. Fans sound like a monster though lol
>>737494696The gpdwin5 isnt a z2e chip
>>737494696Win5 is strix halo, which is more powerful than the Z2E by about 75% and the Deck by 300%. It is essentially a laptop crammed into a PSP shell.
>>737494330lol
>>737494525Leaf here. Bought the xbox ally x for $1050 literally a week before they bumped up the price by $200. I made out like a bandit lolFuck Trump.
>>737481095I love my odin
>>737489719I knew you were memeing. Firefox dev edition has an official zip file for Linux and there's an unofficial Appimage of it.>>737491446Nobody said that 10 years ago except delusional morons. I started using Linux back then and I can confirm it wasn't a seamless experience. But as of 2-3 years ago I'd consider Linux a much more intuitive and easier OS to use than Windows. And yes, I'm using both on a daily basis.It's entirely distro dependent, but Bazzite > Windows if you're a casual user, and CachyOS > Windows if you're a tinkerer.
ANOTHER VALVE FLOPTHANKS FOR PLAYING FOLKS BUT IT WON'T BE BACK IN PRODUCTION
It literally doesn't matter what handheld PC you get, just use what works for you. Most of them are good, the only objectively bad purchase is the MSI claw
>>737495369Nooo, I need to justify my purchase to strangers online.
>>737495228>zipoof. we use tar balls on GNU/Linux. I knew you never did anything productive on you "Linux" beyond taking a screenshot for /g/
>>737495228>Nobody said that 10 years ago except delusional morons. I started using Linux back then and I can confirm it wasn't a seamless experience. But as of 2-3 years ago I'd consider Linux a much more intuitive and easier OS to use than Windows. And yes, I'm using both on a daily basis.They said this too, back then. When will the cycle end?
I wish the Switch 2 had more games already, it would give tendies something to do other than shitting up the board and defending their gorillion dollar company all day
>>737491860It’s only usefulness is Windows applications, when people stop using Windows and moved on into Linux or Mac then you people see how useless it becomes.
>>737481095could be worse they could be selling them for 1200 dollars like lenovoif i were valve id see who in the industry doesnt want a ai hellworld takeover and get them to supply ramsteam deck 2 with steam machine specs for like 500 dollars in 2028/2029 would sell alot of unitssame with steam machine for 750$if i were any corporation that isnt entirely evil or controlled by the new world orderi would do everything within my power to defy the new world orderlike do you all think theyll keep you around lol ?theyll sacrifice you like they did with xbox segaetcthe second youre no longer usefultheyll eat you like everyone elseif i were sony id make a ai free or less ai ps6that plays ps1 to ps6 physical discsthen rip off nintendos virtual consoleand make the ui as simple as possible without constant shovelware and adsthey would genuinely make alot of money and reduce alot of suffering world wideand not do a pro console cuz nobody buys that shit anyways
>>737482192handheld pc options in 2026 to avoid giving money to kikes used rog ally with steam osunder $300 dollars with Z1 extreme.used steam deck for under 400 dollars + 1tb sd cardalso can "build" a mini pc or laptopby grabbing a used pc off ebay under 200 dollars4 6 or 8 core cpu and then popping inrx 5801070/1080/1080 ti etcnew pcs are a fucking scam if they are not handheld or likesome shit like a r7600 rx 7600 pc for like 850
>>737487519Yeah, you are talking out of your ass.
>>737498018The world runs on money and it simoly makes no sense to make RAM for Valve when AI companies are writing you blank cheques. Valve was even going around begging people for RAM lol.
>>737493961I never had a DS/3DS....But when it's available again, I'll get the ANY THOR, the 3ds second hand market is pretty insane nowadays.I know it won't be a 1:1 experience, but I think it'll do.
>>73749641810 years ago proton didn't exist 10 years ago windows was a competent platform 10 years ago Linux use was at 1%10 years ago we didn't have semi daily Linux threads Things are objectively changing
>>737496418Was true back then too, but on a more limited set of hardware, and required a more locked down system to avoid Microsoft funded lawsuits.Back then, Valve stuck their neck out in the PC space, and got hit by a Microsoft funded patent troll. Microsoft realizing they didn't need to make their OS better, they just had to knock down the competition was terrible for the industry.The cycle ends when Valve proves Microsoft's patent threats don't stand up anymore, and there is enough of a Linux gamer user base that games can't require NT kernel malware anymore.Also wouldn't hurt if Nvidia started taking their desktop Linux drivers more seriously and caught up to AMD.
>>737499624what's so insane about it?
>>737499680That’s right, the era of Mac is happening. Their entire new PCs are gone, AI is just better at Mac because it doesn’t have Microslop, Linux is still inferior as the PC gaming will soon only become Mac or Windows. There is no improvements for Linux.
>>737500001Nvidia needs to swallow their pride and join mesa
>>737496239I don't care what you use, I call every archived file a zip file no matter the extension. Why the fuck would I ever say "tar ball" when almost nobody understands what it means?>>737496418The Steam Deck and SteamOS are a proof that things have improved. It's used by literal troglodytes.Several of my 50 IQ friends use Bazzite, but I wouldn't trust them with Ubuntu 16 or even Mint 20. Some of them have even tried Ubuntu 20 and Mint 21, but were filtered by those and didn't use Linux until Bazzite got popular over a year ago.Things are just that much different and I can see it both from public perception (6% market share, up from 1%) and from my close friends and family.
>>737500089Lol, no one is going to waste time learning how to develop games for a device used only by women and faggots that refuses to adopt industry standards
>>737493195If you're not going to get the Valve dock, I'd only trust Anker. Everything else, there may be no guarantees for future updates
>>737481095Sold mine and got a Ayn Thor instead with $500 left over. Plays all my steam games but takes enough effort that brown people usually give up before they get it working.
>>737500383>takes enough effort that brown people usually give upwhat do you mean? it's just point and click
>>737493195I got a thinkpad one, but I never used it. in fact I didn't even unpack it
>>737500230No one is going to hire you if you’re not using Mac to streamline their business. Everyone should already be working on the project and do the job. Not lag behind because you have an 8GB Windows.
Let me buy a Steam Frame already
>>737500480If you want to play PC games you need to either flash Rocknix or if you want slightly worse compatibility you need GameHub or similar software which still needs tinkering depending on the game.
>>737500383>but takes enoughTelltale sign of a brownoid chinkheld for people that don'g value their timeDeck just werks
>>737499680>10 years ago proton didn't existWine did, guess what Proton is a fork of.>10 years ago windows was a competent platformAs competent as it is now, sure.>10 years ago Linux use was at 1%It is going up, primarily because it took corporations and governments to notice it's free.>10 years ago we didn't have semi daily Linux threadsWe did.>Things are objectively changingI'm not saying they aren't. The rote talking points aren't though, which is part of the problem. In order for Linux to go mainstream, it needs the community to come together and either recommend a single distro or make one that's as retard-friendly/proof as Windows or Mac. Just saying 'It's better than it was' without any further explanation isn't going to do much.
>>737501248Any immutable distro with gnome is as retard safe as it comes
>>737481095>bought mine during its first yearyou snooze you loose
>>737501465And what does that mean to a Linux layman?
>>737481095its weaker than a switch 1. just buy a laptop
>>737500648>streamline >by having to develop software that needs to cross ISAs and operating systems apple toys are for internet browsing and data entry, big phones with keyboards
>>737501556I know, I'm just saying the software is there. My mum has no idea about computers at all and she knows how to use firefox and libreoffice on gnome. It also has sane defaults which help
>>737501248>Wine did, guess what Proton is a fork of.An ideological solution rather than a practical one, you did it because you hated windows, not because of the performance which was way worseDon't pretend like the cooperation of amd and valve to improve Mesa wasn't huge>As competent as it is now, sure.come on man, 7 was great, no need to retroactively seethe about it>It is going up, primarily because it took corporations and governments to notice it's free.On steam And the vast majority of it is people installing it on their own hardware rather than a top down push>It needs the community to come together and either recommend a single distroNo, that's a delusional take, SteamOS just needs to release so that OEMs start slipping it into normie hardware
>>737501621lol no switch 1 is weaker than a 750m which i have in my laptop that can run all AAA up to 2015 at 60 fpssteam deck is 1050 or soso it will beat the switch in every single game lolswitch 2 will beat steam deck oled in poorly optimized gamesi think ima wait for the deck 2 cuz im broke being lawfared and buying a portable 1050 in 2026 for 550 dollars does not sound as good as gettign that in 2022
>>737481095completely pointless device, other handhelds mog this hard
>>737502165Switch 2 beats the steam deck if both are optimized. It's also a more consolelike experience so you shouldn't be comparing them anyways.
>>737502286Point me to handhelds that beat the LCD on price/perf or have both oled and trackpads
>>737501248Back then Wine came at a real performance trade-off for any game that wasn't OpenGL native. Unless you had an AMD card and could use Gallium Nine for D3D, but that wasn't available out of the box with Wine, and AMD was not yet dominant in the Linux hardware space.It also really does need to be stated at just how much worse NT has gotten with version 11. Even Microsoft's built in legacy compatibility layer, which used to be the big selling point of their platform is now showing signs of rot.As for Linux adoption continuing to rise, it has nothing to do with Linux being $0, because Microsoft still forces OEMs to license their patents for every system they sell at a higher cost than a Windows license.Linux adoption going up just shows that Microsoft's platform has gotten so bad that more vendors are willing to take the risk of tanking hits from Microsoft funded patent trolls, or paying Microsoft's extortion fees to sell more Linux systems.
>>737502286Sorry that the steamdeck is not available in Kongo
>>737502391The LCD is discontinued
>>737502379The subject was switch , not 2Nintendo trading blows isn't a selling point when the lcd is cheaper and can do way more
>>737502114>No, that's a delusional take, SteamOS just needs to release so that OEMs start slipping it into normie hardwareWould that not achieve the same outcome as the Linux Community banding together to recommend one distro that 'just werks'? I'll cede the other points.
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>>737501248>it needs the community to come together and either recommend a single distro or make one that's as retard-friendly/proof as Windows or MacThis doesn't need to happen. We've largely become distro-agnostic because of Appimages, Flatpaks and Distrobox. The most commonly recommended options right now, that being Bazzite, CachyOS or Mint, are all fine for each of their specific demographics. The whole point of Linux distros is having a specific out of the box experience.In terms of normie optics, which is 80% of the users, Linux just needs to be pre-installed and it literally doesn't matter which of the popular distros it is. SteamOS is already doing that with Steam Deck and Steam Machines. You just need more Linux desktops and laptops and they need to be marketed a lot better since 50% of normies still think that a PC literally cannot work unless it says "Windows" while booting up.
For people who say the deck 2 is just around the corner, the devs have stated that they dont want to do a steamdeck 2 until they can do a big performance jump for the same powerdraw&price as the steamdeck 1. And at the moment that's just not possible.
>>737502643>lcd is cheaper and can do way moreUnfortunately Valve decided the LCD was too good of a deal and decided to stop making it.
>>737502752I didnt vote for americans bombing the middle east at the command of the jewish overlords.
>>737502819It's releasing within the next 3 years.
>>737502890If you voted at all, then you did vote for this
>>737502932>source: my ass
deck 2 when
>>737503005>>737503040when udna mobile edition is out which wont be before udna desktop/ps6 edition.
Any wishes for deck 2 besides higher res and better cpu?
>>737502718No, you have to remember that all those hardware corpos are huge pussies running on much thinner margins, they're not going to use a literally who distro even if it's greatIf you're going to tell investors you're going to put Linux on consumer hardware they're going to take it a lot better if you cite valve rather than poopoosniffer55's work
>>737481095just become a permaneet who never leaves their room like me and you won't ever need a handheld gaming device again
>>737503179LCD version
>>737503316I'm a permaneet and only play with me 'eck
>>737495369>the only objectively bad purchase is the MSI clawThe claw is literally the best non-strix halo handheld currently on the market, what are you even talking about?
>>737503179Steamdeck is close to ps4&xbox one performance, steamdeck 2 getting close to ps5&xsx performance would be amazing. And a 1080p120fps oled screen, ofcourse.
>>737503179better rumblebetter buttonsbetter software
>>737495369I need trackpads, they make gamepads so much less shit. Only Deck has trackpads.
>>737503179Leaning more into hybridisation and dockingI would love it if they made the controller detachable and the back had an indented slot directly where the soc isExpose the heat pipes to the outside and make docks with its own cooling that contact those heat pipes Make it possible for it to draw 50w
>>737503179better quality buttons and more thought put into the button. bigger d-pad, convex sticks, bigger and flat axyb buttons, no reason for the gigantic system buttons
>>737503248So it would be better and still produces an ideal outcome.
>>737488973get an odin 3. Got the 16gb ram version and im playing MH rise at 60fps while underclocked
>>737503179- Removable battery- 2 USB-C ports, one at the top one at the bottom; have one of them support USB 4 so that an external GPU can be connected- 2 SD card slots instead of 1- Hall effect sticks- 120Hz 1920x1200 display- Keep it physically the same to keep most current accessories compatibleAnd finally, a "Mini" version that's 30%-50% lighter and roughly shaped like an Anbernic RG-557 or Retroid Pocket 5/6. We already have ARM handhelds that outperform the current Steam Deck while being half the size and consuming less power, so it should be doable with x86 in 2-4 years. If thermals on x86 still suck by then, they can just make the "Mini" version an ARM device. A ton of games are playable on the ARM/Snapdragon version of Rocknix right now.>>737502819>until they can do a big performance jump for the same powerdraw&priceWe're basically almost there. The current Snapdragon gaming handhelds pretty much match the Steam Deck while drawing less power. And they're sold for almost half the price as the Steam Deck OLED while having much better displays.The only thing holding us now are the RAM prices. They'll stabilize in the next 2 years and FEX will be in a much better state at that point. So even if AMD fails to deliver a good price/performance chip, Snapdragon will be there for Valve to use.
>>737504253>external gpuThat's my biggest wish. Would replace my entire gaming setup
