Genuinely, what went wrong?
dunno. no argenta romance?
>>737487036Nothing really? Except being unwilling to write virgin romances.
>>737487119but they've written several already? why do you keep complaining?
>>737487036regina will subvert expectations and if you do the right things and solve her issues let you wife her up and get a loyal loving wife to explore space with, and that will save owlcat
>>737487036feminism.anti racism.communism.letting trendy ideologies guide your writing.their games were never very polished to begin with, so without decent lore/plot to back it up they're doomed to be subpar.
>>737487187they've done that already so they're not subverting anything
>>737487036They didn't make a third PF game where you fight the lich big bad or where you fuck the winter wolf chick.
>>737487036Nothing ever went right to begin with.
>>737487036Their sci-fi ideas are just boring.
>>737487036they tried to bank on nostalgia, instead of innovating
>>737489864tfw no Greta gf
>>737487036became popular and the rich kids that only look good on paper started to apply there and apply their terrible Superman Fights a Giant Spider ideas
>>737489864>the lich>as a follow up to killing a demon-godnothe third PF game should have dared to present us with the Paizo version of Deities & Demigods power levels, iterating on their kingdom management into a more proper god sim and letting us either destroy or save the pantheondivine levels will never ever see a crpg unless these cowards nut up
>>737490396Yeah.>>737490482Isn't the lich a god level threat though?
Nothing?They fired a bunch of feminists and you can feel it from wotr=>RTThey keep cucking romancetardsThey make fun adventures.What more do you want?
>>737487036bad romance gameplay.
blood lords would make for a fantastic owlcat game.
>>737487036Nothing yet but line must go up mentality instead of continuing to just focus on making humble CRPGs for enthusiasts will sink them eventually. The Expanse game is probably going to be the first blow.
>>737487036Started good with bg1 and bg2 clonesThen they fucked up conceptually with next onesDark Heresy should have been the first 40k cRPG since it's smaller scale Rogue Trader should have been their bombastic AAA Mass Effect cloneExpanse should have been 2nd cRPG instead
>>737490965It's easy to speak from the future. They made what they did and have to move on. Here's hoping they learned from some mistakes and will move on to make their adventures better.
>>73748703640k instead of DnD
>>737490643>They keep cucking romancetardsStop assuming they're cucking all of us
>>737490643romance is the most important gameplay factor as determined by /v/ new tourist. For several decades now.
>>737487036Cuckold fetish writers pushing it onto the story constantly.
>>737491503define cuckold
>>737487036>what went wrong?Dark Heresy still isn't outThere's only so many times I can replay Rogue Trader on Grim Darkness mode
>>737492183>Rogue TraderPeople actually like that shit?
>>737487036Unity
>>737492210Yes. Not sure what else you want me to say to a question like that.
>>737487036I told them I want to date Pasqal and their solution was adding a random female magos you can fuck to Dark Heresy
>>737492210Fun game. I liked it. In fact, I still do.
>>737487063/thread
>>737492210I like it.>>737492396makes you think
>>737492396Do tech priests even want to have sex? Seems like an archaic weakness of the flesh.
>>737492396owlcat is evil
>>737492795The mechanical dong Pascal replaced his with has no weaknesses of the flesh, and has 7 different vibration settings.
>>737487036I mean Paizo is just POZZED as fuck theyre fineee, hilarious that so much of their socials is just people begging for a warhammer fantasy game, I get it the enemy within is sitting RIGHT THERE
>>737490482BG2 is as close as it gets ig
>>737492941I can't see a tech priests being excited to stick his blessed mechanodong into a flesh hole
>>737492941oh my
>>737493009Mask of the Betrayer gets pretty close too.
>>737493247True, bg2 feels grander imo tho, especially with the watcher's keep.
>>737487036GW being worse to work with than Paizo. Literally killing the Rogue Trader by forcing them to time their DLC releases and what's in them with failing Shartide.
>>737490742Mortisal Gaming daid the beta looked promising because its still very much a crpg. I believe him, he seems very business working man in his approach to previews/reviews.
>>737493629The Veilguard shill? lol
>>737493769What did he say about veilguard? I've seen some of his reviews and they were good.
>>737493769He said that that was his game of the year right?Wild.
>>737493076What do female tech priests replace theirs with?
>>737493379Oh is that actually what's happening?It sounds like something GeeDubs would do.
>>737493937semen extractor 9000it's an articulated catheter that burrows it's way into males to extract semen directly without stimulation
>>737492795Yeah but not the kind of sex you're thinking of.
>>737487634>I saw something my extremely dogmatic pllitical beliefs didnt agree with and I won't stand for this!Why are you like this?
>>737487036"went wrong" implies something went right in the first place.
>>737494046Necron propaganda
>>737493769Meh, i dont have to agree with him 100% to like his approach to reviews.
>>737493076Ciaphas Cain fucks a female tech priest a bit>>737493937She had a mechandrite tail but was pretty normal. Only got promoted to actual tech priest at the end of the book desu
>>737494189Nah, this is fanfic written by a Mechanicus NEET on A03 (A030k?)
i think their codebase for the engine they use in all their games got fucked up. the decline in quality between kingmaker and wrath of the rapist or whatever its called was very noticable. even moreso for the shitty warhammer game
>>737490742This. As soon as they decided to get bigger, they entered the path that always leads to implosion.
>>737494471>wrath of the rapist
>>737494108If your core principals aren't dogmatic then are they really "beliefs" and not just whimsical opinions?I didn't say I wouldn't stand for it. I implied that's what I personally don't like about their games. Why are you divining my intentions? Why are YOU like this?I'll respond seriously:1. Feminism/Chauvinism is retarded. Men and women are different and get different results, good or bad.2. Anti-racism has gone so far that people ignore reality to fit their narrative. Like sexes, blacks and whites are not the same.3. Communism is fine in a small group of well connected people, like a commune or a family unit. At scale, it has never worked, ever. You can argue that "true communism has never been tried blah blah blah" all you want but that's just cope because real communism at scale leads to abuses of power and corruption and that's just human nature. A good system would account for that. "Capitalism is the worst system except for all the others".4. Trendy ideologies are more just pointing at the first 3 points.5. This is just true. Their games have lower production value than, say, Divinity Original Sin or BG3. Their animations are subpar, and their UI is not as clean. It's fine but it's true.
>>737487036They want the BioWare audience.
>>737494706>Their games have lower production value than, say, Divinity Original Sin or BG3. Their animations are subpar, and their UI is not as clean. It's fine but it's true.I only played Kingmaker and DOS2, and Kingmaker felt infinitely more playable.
>>737494361Delete this now now now now
>>737487036reddit trannies are their target audience
>>737494981I'm really only talking about their polish. I personally think kingmaker was better than DoS2, but I didn't enjoy DoS2 that much for whatever reason. Still, owlcat games always have stiff animations and their UI was basically papyrus sprites IIRC.
>>737495081A030k doesn't censorSend the skitarii, I don't give a fuck
They keep making cuck fantasies that don't appeal to mostly male crpg audience so all that is left is autistic troons
>>737495497>that don't appeal to mostly male crpg audienceBut they do anon, they just don't appeal to you for not being virgins (your definition of cuckoldry) most men don't care about the hymen status of a fictional character
>>737495637>most men don't careShut the fuck up cuck don't speak for me
>>737495810That's why I said most, is reading too hard for you retard? You probably got cucked by the virgin Cassia
>>737495810>i'm most menhow fat are you?my wife only had 1 body before me. unfortunate but unless you only court 15 year olds you're going to be single forever.
>>737495889NTA. I got blueballed by yrrliettliette (sp). Fuck her. I stopped playing after that.
>>737496029deserved for being an eldarfag
>>737494108>and I won't stand for this!Why should I stand for this if >my extremely dogmatic pllitical beliefs didnt agree withI better strand for what I like
>>737496708I don't know fuck all about warhammer lore, so I guess that's on me. I would have gone for the sister, had she been an option. There were no other good options. weird navigating fish lady?
>>737487036AhHh my waifu cucked me yet I keep playing all of their games??? -Owlcatfag
>>737493973Just look at the Arbites DLC situation.
terrible encounter designnon enjoyable main gameplay featureslolz so random super hard enemiespathfinder being tedious buff slop to begin withsomehow more deviant than larian with their writing and romancesforced interactions with said people or you miss out on key gameplay elementsactually rap animals in their office for fun.
>>737497019>weird navigating fish lady?She's cute unless you're a fag
>>737497161ya ok
>>737497246Lickable gills
>>737497246whats the deal with navigators anyway? they dont fill up the warp bar but they are using warp powers
>>737499663Probably because they're not psykers, they just use the eye as a door to the warp
>>737494108Kill yourself faggotYou lost Your unbearable hypocrisy isn't the new normal or on the right side of history and never was
>>737494471>the decline in quality between kingmaker and wrath of the rapistnigger wut? Wotr is so much better than kingmaker
I have never played one of their games, what are my thoughts?I am looking forward to their Expanse game though, only because I love the books and tv show.
>>737487036studio frontloads every game with an unavoidable irritating character, usually a black one except in their first game.
Well for me it them pivoting to 40k, a setting I despise even more than pathfinder. The Expanse game is in a setting I feel nothing for either way so at least I will give it a chance.
>>737487036>pretending like you actually played their crpgs
>>737487036They dont make games they make glorified visual novels with some of the worst game mechanics shoehorned in between walls of text.
>>737501251nta but when I first played WotR it was more unoptimized than Kingmaker, like they didn't know what they were doing with the Unity engine leading to a lot of crashes during the war-management minigame.Its better now but I can definitely see the argument for WotR being worse on the back-end if you played it near release. The only thing WotR had up on Kingmaker was mounts.
>>737502515You didn't play Kingmaker on release
>>737487187>Regina...She would look absolutely amazing in one of those silky black French Maid outfits!!Please, make it happen Owlcat!
>>737489864for me it's the one where you are trapped in a island with a tanned redhead tomboy fighting snake people.
>>737502515I guess you never played Kingmaker on release because some of the bugs could softlock you in the game. coincidentally their first warhammer game was also like this. with Cumrag in release being downright unplayable for some
Is it the fault of the romances that WotR's cast is dogshit or are the romances shit because of the cast? Everyone in that game is just kind of a bastard and isn't fun to journey alongside. The women are used goods and the guys are massive faggots.
>>737504135That's just sounds like a (you) problem. Lann, Arueshalae, Regill, Woljiff and even Ulbrig are all fine. hell even Camellia is okay for the most part
>>737504135>complains about the characters being bastards>thinks that a woman not being a virgin automatically makes her "dogshit"I think you should feel right at home bro
>>737490560council of thieves sounds kino
Im going in lads, wish me luck
>>737506309Jesus christ, what the fuck is this voice acting. My character sound like a space faggot
>>737506598>Alright buddy, you got two options here, you can be a space homo or you can be a woman, those are your two choices, choose wisely
>>737506598The backslash is intense so they'll probably chjange it
This is not ok, i did not sign up to play a manlet
No more DLCs for Rogue Trader right? I mean after the fat fuck DLC.
>>737490560Shattered Star would be kino it's basically a roadtrip around Varisia meeting waifus, recruiting some of them, and collecting pieces of an ancient relic that totally won't do something awful when rebuilt.
>>737507409One more and thats it.
>>737507187Belters are unnaturally tall
>>737493973There is no "situation", you're just making shit up.
>>737493379>Literally killing the Rogue Trader by forcing them to time their DLC releasesThis sounds like pure bullshit
>>737487036A lot of Owlcat hate is picking up on Twitter because they admitted to using AI in the same way every other major studio does, so admitting to using AI would be the main reason
>>737509439That shit is old news
It's fine. Expanse normie money will be siphoned for the ultra HD non trash engine Wrath remake.Trust the plan now with only Demon & Angel paths because niggers used all the budget with full VA and graffix, but hey at least you get Arue pussy in full HD!
>>737513572Include legend and yeah sure sounds good
>their games are categorically buggy, unfinished, dogshitly written, terribly balanced, barely functional pieces of shit held together with Russian vodka and the appeal of large amounts of content and customizability>those are never the complaints I read on four chan dot com>it's literally all about purityfag waifuniggery over their poorly written romances, enough to fuel dedicated schizos for several yearsNever change.
>>737487036too many niggers, not enough romanceable white women, and no new Pathfinder game announcement. rip Owlcat.
>>737513572a acceptable sacrifice. as long as we get baldur gate 3 verticality and Arue model for sfm/blender porn. too bad i will be in my 30 or 40s by that time
>>737487036They never released mod tools for either PF games, those fuckers.
>>737514579Imagine the HD pubes
>>737493886I think he didn't even list it when he had his top rpg of the year list video, heh
>>737515128Really?Lmao.
>>737508160 >There is no "situation", you're just making shit up.Bro we literally have dev posts, publisher financials, and an entire DLC roadmap that keeps getting shuffled around but yeah it's all a mass hallucination lmao.You can say it's being overblown, fine. But pretending nothing weird is going on when projects get delayed, reshuffled, and the studio suddenly pivots engines is peak "this is fine" dog-in-fire energy.Nobody's saying Owlcat is about to implode tomorrow. Just that something clearly changed behind the scenes. If that's "making shit up" then I guess reading publicly available info is schizophrenia now.
>>737493379fuck Games Workshop and FUCK Shittide.
>>737490560>>737505996>>737507589For me it is Jade Regent, since it comes with a romance system already built in. Also, TWO Desna waifus and one of them is...I think a Pixie?
>>737497058Way to out the fact that damage control shills aren’t the player base and there’s no organic support for the bad decisions they make
>>737507624Belters seem to be the patrician choice. Earthers are bland and Martians are slaves to the industrial terraforming projects.
>>737518129The tieflings of the expanse huh
>>737487036Too much cuckoldry
>>737518129>play as a Belter>reach Earth level>the severe gravity of Earth immediately crushes your weak space bones
>>737517805>and one of them is...I think a PixieFreaky.
>>737517805>PixieA lyrakien azata
>>737489864It seems they had a falling out with Paizo
>>737520251They didn't
>>737519896>human x goblin>Nlies
>>737487036They were never good
>>737518129Belters are basically jew gypsies in the setting
>liked real time with pause in kingmaker years ago>started wrath of the righteous recently>real time combat feels terribleIs it me who changed or is there something different? Controlling your party in these small corridors feels like ass, both for abilities and movement. I know I can turn on turn based any time, but it's hard to know beforehand for which fights it would be worth it, since you really don't need it the majority of enemy packs. I finished chapter one, but I probably would be still playing if I turned on turn based for the defender's heart battle.
>>737520220Ahh right, it has been a long time since I've read through it.>>737519896Well, azata can still intermingle with humans. Alos, I don't agree with this chart. It should be celestials, fiends, dragons, fae, and humans can breed with anything.>>737520284Agreed.
>>737487036nothing, they've always been shit
I dropped WotR in the first act because the ps4 load screens and the shitty dlc campaign put me off. Should I give the game another chance? I can't imagine the pacing would speed up once I get to the war stuff or I actually have to choose aeon or Angel
>>737487036Picking boring races for romance options. Give me a tabaxi, a gnoll, or a kobold already, you hack frauds. A chick spraypainted green does not an exotic make.
>>737521883Owlkek are a bunch of contrarian retards, but they're not THAT contrarian, thankfully
>>737487119The only time they chickened out was in Kingmaker, and they apologised by adding a virgin waifu as DLC.
>>737489864winter wolf chick?
>>737521730I would say yes, but I am a PC player and I can't tell you if it is worth in on console.
rtwp is just dogshitAlso they never fixed WotR so i cant play my perfect character fantasy
>>737522275agreetactics > turn-based > rtwp
>>737522275>rtwp is just dogshitSorry but turn-based already slaughtered CRPGs by bending the knee to the actual mouth-breathers of the world
>>737522219Greta, yeah.
>>737487036They can’t make character models.
>>737522219Character from reign of winter (aka the one adaptation Owlcat said they would never do) that is very likely to fall for one of your PCs
turnbased would have been fine though, it works in RT, even if thats pseudo xcomBut in WotR even the turn based is buggy as fuck, sometimes your actions just get eaten by the voidI dont care much for 40k but the gameplay is atleast more servicable, at the cost of the actual rpg being kinda blandI wish there was a game like pathfinder but with the turnbased combat of something like RT, pathfinder looks more fun on paper, literally I guess
>>737523094>I wish there was a game like pathfinder but with the turnbased combatBro, have you heard about Baldurs Gate 3?
Dumped a billion dollars making a dollar store mass effect clone that no one will play Oh and no Idira romance
>>737490965>Dark Heresy should have been the first 40k cRPG since it's smaller scale >Rogue Trader should have been their bombastic AAA Mass Effect cloneAgreed on this. They didn't use the potential of RT properly.
>>737494108I understand anti racism and feminism, but like communism?
Yrliet and Elantach Elantach and Yrliet
>>737523239Doesnt have claws and is therefore shitgameplay wise its alright I guess but it lacks the options I craveOh and it would help if it had cute romances instead of instant sex, kinda ruins the mood
>>737507187The male MC is the most homosexual sounding man I have ever heard
>>737523823Karlach
>>737523823>>737523930Also Shadowheart, you don't have sex with her instantly either.
>>737523823>Oh and it would help if it had cute romances instead of instant sexAs if Owlkek doesn't do the same
>>737523687I love her stupid fucking face so muchRegina has the same voice actress I hope that Expanse doesn't kill her career when it flops
>>737523930>>737523962I'd have liked karlach if her ending wasnt doomedBut again, what I want to play isnt in BG3, so I'm just not that interested in finishing it
>>737524080you can get an ending where she's not doomed (and it's probably the coolest ending available to a "good" character)
>>737524203Going to hell to kill demons or whatever?Eh
>WotR, near the end of act 4>freed and recruited all the slaves except the fucked up magic ones>recruited the qlippoth kid>had nocticula send guards to the camp>all as I've done multiple times before>somehow everyone is dead when I get back
>>737490560Give me Curse of the Crimson Throne and let me side with the queen.
>>737487036They keep spamming dogmatic humans while community wanted access to different options in a rogue trader game
>>737487036They really do just need to stop writing romance because they can't do it. I also don't want to help anyone hook up, that's gay.
>>737526173I think the new character will be a heretic at least, not dogmatic.
>>737526942Definitely heretic techpriest from all current info. The DLC 4 companion will be a dogmatic Eldar who is also Yrliet's mom
>>737527095Sauce?
>>737487036Their gameplay is quite a slog with a lot of filler fights, people meme about the romance but the biggest problem with owlcat games right now is the slop combat
>>737527251NTA, Yrliet's mom is made up but the heretic thing comes from discord gossip. Might be bullshit
>>737487036slugcats are superior to owlcatssimple as
I don't think an owlcat is even a real animal
>>737527616
>>737487036Not a single thing.
>>737527375We've seen some of the 3rd DLC companion and he has the symbol of the dark mechanicus.
>>737527375>>737527095mom part is bullshit, it's a shitpost from /vg/But the content creator guy who predicted tech priest officer says he thinks next one might be an Eldar
>>737529138>Two tech priests.>Two Eldar.They're really flexing their creative muscles with these DLCs.
>>737529270Most likely harlequin or corsair thoDifferennt from the two we haveUnless Owlkek is really lazy
>>737529460Logically it would be a girl too>Female Eldar Harlequin>Still can't smooch but you can play pranks on Yrliet together
Kibellah vs Harlequin rivalry
>>737487036Huh? For subhuman slavs Owlcat somehow beat all the odds. What went so right?
>>737490482I like level 4 fighting spiders in caves.
>>737490482We don't have to constantly escalate from the previous game
>>737499663psykers call upon the warp, which increases itnavigators use the warp, which decreases it
>>737507589>meeting waifusWho? Koriah? Maroux??
>>737525502You done goofed, boy
>>737490560Is that a country sized hurricane down there?
>>737531595So is heretic psycer absolute easy mode?
>>737525502I think I did the same thing, lost becuase I took to long on the airship. I waited out the storm and other stuff.
>>737523450>Idira romanceWhy?
Threesome with Pasqal and Abel
>>737533001Sad girls are best girls.
>>737533106>blows Abel's fucking brains outHeh, nothing personnel, shereen
>>737533337You should find a Haitian wife. Be easy picking for you.>Threesome with Pasqal and AbelThis one's a lot tougher.
>>737533375IHATEYOU
Got too big too quickly.Fans were way too complacent.
>>737487063Why are retards here so obsessed with rpg romance? They're literally never more than a miniscule amount of content in a game. Sometimes not even more than 1 or 2 lines of dialogue . Yet its all retards here ever care about.
>>737533553Blame the best CRPG in existence, Baldurs Gate 2.
>>737493629>i believe a known shill that built his "brand" on lieslol
>>737533594It was like this well before that game
>>737533807I was too young to be involved in the discourse then but I really doubt it.
>>737487036Will it be good?
>>737487036NothingThey are making the best CRPGs on the market and mog the games with higher budgets in every aspect besides the amount of voice acting and mocapThey are not perfect, but they are the best out there and they are good enough.
>>737534051It's not an Owlcat game. They're not making it, just publishing.
>>737533553It's a hook, it creates a non material reward, and it offers greater roleplaying depth. And,I swear I remember reading a study that the neurological response to romance in videogames is equivalent to the serotonin released from people that read romance novels.
>>737505996Its not
>>737523450Based
>>737487036Dipped into Warhammer 40k shit (the gayest possible franchise) instead of staying with based Pathfinder games
>>737534126normally im a D&D guy through and through but i have to admit that 5e is kind of all over the place with casters and i much prefer pathfinderespecially the stupid fucking concentration mechanic
>>737534410>normally im a D&D guy through and througheven 4e?
>>737534051>no character creation>predefined diversity squad full of moba rejectsFucking retarded>>737534154They're retarded for attaching their brand to it
>>737534667I don't think they're really doing that. They aren't talking too much about it
>>737534467nah the best edition was 3.5e all the way
>>737487036Do they actually make good rpgs or is it just visual novel romance simulator slop?
>>737487119All their games have a virgin romance, with (You), the player.
>>737487036Nothing, they mog CDPR
The jump from isometric RPGs to third person shooter seems pretty big. Owlcat has been making profits off low investment yet high effort CRPGs, a TPS is a big risk
>>737535812They already ruined it by making the male protagonist's voice so gay. What were they thinking?