is this game any good?
Isn't she a total slut, NTRing bitch and all kinds of nasty person?
>>737497438>This is your new girlfriend for tonightWhose girlfriend was she last night?
>>737497802>Isn't she a total slutyes>NTRing Kind of?>nasty personNo, she genuinely loves you
>>737498349Nobody who will cuckold you loves you
>>737497579Do you like NTR cuck slop?
>>737498803What if she literally dies if she doesn't have sex with other men, ever thought about that one
>>737498957Then don't go out with her and let her be miserable for the rest of her life, what about that?
>>737497579Yes! It's good and you should play it, especially for Aoi who's very nice and lovely
>>737499110That'd be mean and makes you a BAD person
>>737497438I would rather be alone.
>>737499302would you really though
>>737497438>Those empty eyesshe's gonna kill me and herself right?
>>737497802Not at all, what gave you that impression?
>>737498957Okay, I'll bite. What's her actual major malfunction? Either she values you more for emotional connection or she completely disregards the people she sleeps around with and treats them like dildos.
>>737497438>The image depicts Aoi Mukou from the visual no-
>>737500391She loves you romantically and only you, but she's also basically a sexbot that can't exist without fucking others (and enjoys it but feels guilty about it because of you)
>>737497802She's a contrived metanarrative device where she's the hyperslut from every VN in existence that uses the power of friendship to becomes yours through the VN multiverse while taking six millions other cocks at the same time.
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>>737500292I can change her.
Miyuki did nothing wrong.
people went on about how this is the ultimate NTR game but it's really just meta slop
>>737500391tl;dr metaSpoiler version:Aoi is a CG/endings collector personified, she has to keep collecting sex scenes and routes or she actually, unironically dies. When she isn't doing that, her consciousness begins to slowly fade and she says stuff about being low on energy. It's also important to mention Aoi was upfront enough about it and called herself as somebody who only exists to fuck, and warned the player character to not pursue her while trying to play matchmaker between Shin1 and Miyuki.
>>737501643Its the other way. People act like its super le deep meta slop but it's just an NTR game with meta slop being the framing for NTRing you.
>>737500391she's the embodiment of all visual novel heroines in one, she has all the varying experiences from all the routes she's forced to do in order to keep existing. she loves you, but since she finishes your "route" she has no other means to be tethered to the world, so she cheats on you (doing other routes) in order to just not fade into the background or cease to exist.
>>737497438Her eyes are looking a bit empty.Will she try to kill me while I sleep?
>>737502025Kill? No, she would never, she is a good girlRape you in your sleep? Probably.
>>737501824>>737501924This unironically starts to sound so wild I might just read this shit to get the full gist of it.
>>737502249It's a pretty wild game.My favorite part was how it doesn't really use the meta aspect as a surprise twist or meme horror subversion, that's the plot literally 5 minutes in. You meet Aoi and she basically tells you, the player character just doesn't believe her.
>>737502249Make sure to download the uncensored version, where she also admits to fucking animals and children.
>>737500292Lame, this is the censored version.
>>737502660These dogs and shotas are so lucky.
>>737502249>>737501924>>737501824I think it's also the best game out there actually handling the question of "would you want to be with an unrepentant slut if she truly, deeply loved you?"
>>737497579made me weep like a baby
>>737497438Best girl, I would be completely okay with her fucking other men behind my back.
>>737501431i didn't deserve her...
>>737502801It's a genuine love story so yeah, it does make you question what's love about. Miyuki is also questionable in the sense that Aoi needed to hack the game to make her unable to be happy without (You), so it makes you wonder how much she is making a choice there.It's between:>devoted and literally would kill herself if don't become her partnervs>massive slut who will literally die if she doesn't fuck everything and everyone, but has feelings for you specifically
>>737503020Miyuki doesn't care about the player character, though. She wants to be with (You).
It's also the one of the few VNs that is meant to only be played once. The girl you choose in the end is intended to be your one and only choice. You need to delete your save file in order to reset everything.Doki Doki Literature Club basically just copied this entire game.
>>737503114>Doki Doki Literature Club basically just copied this entire game.And it's much worse than the original, to boot. It had potential, but:1. The developer was afraid and pulled his punches too much.2. He wanted to cram in his own retarded setting from a previous failed game.
If you leave someone just because she cheated on you, can you REALLY say you truly loved her?
I'm gonna leave this thread to avoid any more spoilers. See ya.
>>737503075She did, but I think it's in the sense of realizing you are controlling the PC actions. So (you) become the one she needs to actually "win over".The questionable part is that Miyuki is behaving like that because she literally cannot be happy anymore otherwise, that's what Aoi did to her.
>>737503215>she cheated on youShe didn't, though. She warns the player from the start he shouldn't associate with her and stick to Miyuki. In that very same conversation she offers to suck his cock, saying she "gives a mean blowjob.">>737503245No, she literally says she hates that she has to deal with the player character rather than directly with (You). What truly drove her insane isn't the knowledge she's in a game, but that her love is hopeless.
>>737502660>>737502719That image just doesn't include those lines of dialogue, but it's not from the censored version. I'm not sure what the censored Steam version even looks like, google tells me sex is replaced by kissing but it's an AI answer so who knows
>>737503020>massive slut who will literally die if she doesn't fuck everything and everyone, but has feelings for you specificallyI've always interpreted it as sex for Aoi, no matter who its with within the context of the game, is really just sex with (You) because (You) and the player character aren't the same thing. As long as she's collecting CGs and you're jacking it to them, that's sexual intimacy for her.
>>737497802i am not gonna complain about a free gf in 2026
>>737503315>>737502660>>737500292>"Even scat isn't off the table."That's the one that got me.
>>737503354No. I've played it recently. She's very, very straighforward that she hates cheating on (You), but at the same time she loves the sex and being a slut.
>>737497438I thought that was Compa
>>737501924>since she finishes your "route"She is disappearing because she patched the game for the MC not to be cucked, which "removed" her route
>>737503374
>>737497579No>The only way to get a happy ending with the best girl is to watch the whore from the OP get creampied by some faggot and have your character slurp it out
>>737503293>What truly drove her insane isn't the knowledge she's in a game, but that her love is hopeless.Which is, again, something Aoi did to her to rig the game in your "favor". That's the point I'm trying to make here.>>737503354Aoi is different in the sense that, since she is supposed to personify "every VN heroine", she is inside every girl you are fucking in any other game. The player character hardly matters in that sense, nor her own specific form, she is technically a fully meta being who just happens to be "herself" in Totono as opposed to another character.
>>737503494>She is disappearing because she patched the game for the MC not to be cucked, which "removed" her routeNo, what the patch caused is essentially curse Miyuki to be doomed to an unhappy life unless she ends up with the player character... who is your typical, spineless personality void of an eroge protagonist, which basically dooms her.
>>737497579Only if you're a thinking man who enjoys preloved girls.
>>737503478Not sure if I have to feel sorry for Compa or Aoi here.Compa is canonically "no sex before marriage" and "even getting a little too intimate with somebody accidentally literally makes me unsuitable for marriage".Aoi tries to fuck the MC 5 minutes in.These two would NOT get along.
>>737503814>even getting a little too intimate with somebody accidentally literally makes me unsuitable for marriageI hate this trope, especially since it's a complete ass-pull that's not even a reflection of Japanese culture around sex.
>>737503426>She's very, very straighforward that she hates cheating on (You)This might be headcannon on my part as its been a long time since I played it but the way I've always interpreted it is that Aoi calls it "cheating" because she's operating under the assumption that (You) are still self inserting as Shinichi. That's what most people do in VN's after all, especially when the MC is a blank slate (as that is the intent). I think the SLURP is supposed to be (You) firmly establishing to Aoi that (You) see yourself as completely separate from him, to the point where he's really just a digital meat puppet for (You) to use to interact with her, because its *extremely* out of character for Shinichi to actually do that.
>>737503573>and have your character slurp it out>your charactergot filtered
>>737503964For Compa it made sense because she was raised by a supposedly very conservative and strange grandpa, they might be trying to imply some old people still hold that stance and the joke is that a girl like Compa would be considered extremely puritanical nowadays. Though she is also liked for being canonically Trad Wife(TM).
I fucking love used goods.
>>737504661Same, bro. I wish preloved women were real...
>>737503657>No, what the patch caused is essentially curse Miyuki to be doomed to an unhappy life unless she ends up with the player character... who is your typical, spineless personality void of an eroge protagonist, which basically dooms her.No, she's doomed to love (You) and only (You). The MC is totally irrelevant because he really isn't (You), he's just the only way for her (and Aoi by extension) to interact with (You). Miyuki's problem is that, unlike Aoi, she can only exist within the confines of being Miyuki in Totono. Aoi gets to see (You) whenever you play any VN because she's every heroine. Miyuki doesn't. That's why she goes off the deep end and can't let the game end. Its also why I think picking Miyuki at the end is straight up a bad ending. She will be stuck in a little digital box loving (You) for as long as she exists with no way to do anything about it.
>>737504186>headcannonThe ending confirms it
>>737504829>No, she's doomed to love (You) and only (You). The MC is totally irrelevant because he really isn't (You), he's just the only way for her (and Aoi by extension) to interact with (You). >Miyuki's problem is that, unlike Aoi, she can only exist within the confines of being Miyuki in Totono. Aoi gets to see (You) whenever you play any VN because she's every heroine. Miyuki doesn't. That's why she goes off the deep end and can't let the game end.Wrong. Again, I played it recently. The "patch" was that, no matter what choices in life she makes, unless she ends up with Shinichi she's doomed to unhappiness and loneliness.And Shinichi, being the spineless waste of space that he is, would NEVER, in any scenario, approach her.The twist to the game is that it's SUPPOSED TO BE an NTR game where a different guy in each route ends up with Miyuki. But Aoi takes pity on both him and (You) and """patches""" the game, even though Shinichi is still the spineless cuck he was designed as.
>>737504829I always interpreted it as her eventually realizing that (you) are behind Shinichi actions, and her behavior changes accordingly because now she knows it's all about (you) instead.The game hack wasn't about (you) though, I believe Aoi wanted to specifically match Shinichi and Miyuki but she didn't think about what kind of mental fuckery she had just performed there.
>>737505431It's not even mental fuckery. Her plan would've worked... but she forgot that Shinichi is literally an NTR protagonist, so no matter how you stack the cards in his favour, he will fuck it up with Miyuki.
>>737505217>The ending confirms itConfirms what? What I said?
>>737505573She seemed to acknowledge the fact Shinichi had some deal about being cucked, but yeah she is a surprisingly hopeful girl who really thought she could get a perfectly happy ending.There again, technically both endings are what she wants, except in one ending she also gets to find love herself.
>>737505573>but she forgot that Shinichi is literally an NTR protagonistI'm not an expert because I don't play NTR games but Shinichi always struck me as uniquely unpleasant for an NTR main character. From my perception NTR "heroes" are weak faggots but usually very nice. Shinichi is a massive prick a lot of the time on top of being a cuck. I assume the intention was to make it easier for (You) to separate yourself from him.
>>737505768>She seemed to acknowledge the fact Shinichi had some deal about being cuckedMiyuki, once she takes charge of the game, outright says it's one where she and Shinichi would never end up together, no matter the route.>>737506008>Shinichi is a massive prick a lot of the time on top of being a cuck. >I assume the intention was to make it easier for (You) to separate yourself from him.Not just that, but the original "untainted" title had him be like that so, no matter how many signals Miyuki throws his way, he gets butthurt over some minor thing, they go their own ways, and then he observes from a distance how different men have their way with her.
>>737506119>>Miyuki, once she takes charge of the game, outright says it's one where she and Shinichi would never end up together, no matter the route.Tru, but Aoi genuinely believes otherwise and patched the game hoping it could change that, then played matchmaker herself just to be sure.Might not look like it, but she is a very pure person at heart.
>>737505696In her ending Aoi stays with (You) while leaving Shinichi with Miyuki. And to even get to the second part of the game (You) have to make a chain of specific decisions that would make no sense for Shinichi.
>>737497438no
>>737506418Anon... you don't remember? Originally she did that because she was railing all of Miyuki's potential love interests in the meantime.
>>737506528I only remember she said she did that because apparently it's one way to make sure Shinichi and Miyuki would get together, by rigging Miyuki's brain lol.How well that worked out, and what else she would be doing outside of trying to play matchmaker is another story. We know she is still sleeping around because she has to, but kinda the whole point of Aoi is that she is supposed to be "pure" in a more abstract sense.
I dislike how many VNs were just vehicles for increasingly contrived NTR scenarios. Muv did this too.
>>737506750Partially it's that, but remember that she herself admits she actually loves all the fucking, and it's only because she grow to love (You) does she start feeling bad about it.It's either the first or second scene with Shinichi where she keeps her distance because she has "bad breath" A.K.A. she reeks of cum. To her an NTR eroge is a buffet of horny guys.I almost wish that early on she would also hit on Miyuki, because we know for a fact she will fuck anything that moves.
>>737506803If you feel like you're getting NTR'd playing Totono it means you should stick to RPG maker porn games
>>737506938>but remember that she herself admits she actually loves all the fucking, and it's only because she grow to love (You) does she start feeling bad about it.Guess it's more like that she never really loved anyone until (You), which is why suddenly she realizes it's something different than just wanting to fuck, so far it was all she knew about and was living on a purely materialistic level due to her err... fucked up metabolism that relies on sex to stay alive.
>>737497438I don't date animal abusers
>>737508007Oops, was meant for >>737501431
>>737506803It's supposed to be a trial for true love in these cases.As in, is it knowing that Sumika got raped by ayys enough to make you not love her? Then we could argue you didn't actually have any pure feeling there, and you can't empathize with her who literally went her way to fuck with multiverse shit only to be with Takeru. And I don't even like Sumika much, but you are all missing the point here.
>>737508007How can you rape dogs as a woman if they're the ones humping you
>>737508203>but you are all missing the point here.I think this thread has been surprisingly good for a Totono thread. Most of the time it’s people getting filtered by the slurp or endless complaining about DDLC.
>>737508570Certainly better than average. Just saying that actually, trials for love and making you question what it means through those less-than-ideal-but-still-obviously-idealizied scenarios are just how you write a compelling romance story as opposed to shallow wish fulfillment at best, and just porn at worst.
>>737503020It's a nonsense question because in real life humans lose their ability to pair bond and love others if they fuck around endlessly.
>>737509223It's a more abstract question about the nature of love really, not exactly relationship advice. You could see it as taking a philosophical stance, so if you pick Aoi it might be implied you believe a pure feeling of love is entirely beyond the question of sex and material devotion, and these are more secondary aspects which might or might not affect somebody's perception.
>>737509560It's not. There's no such kind of love. Your distant ancestors did not have a word for romantic love. They did not believe in a transcendent emotion felt between men and women that existed as a more pure form of sexual desire. The introduction of such an idea into our culture is completely foreign and likely results from a mistranslation of the Greek EROS, which means lust, and a misinterpretation of Plato. Unfortunately the idea took root as a method of expressing eros in a Church-friendly way. “I’m not like those barbarians who just want to fuck you! I just want to write you poetry and bask in your beauty!” Ugh. Malory skewered this almost as soon as it was introduced. Your wiser predecessors knew better. The Victorians, to their eternal shame, brought the idiotic idea back.
>>737509560>so if you pick Aoi it might be implied you believe a pure feeling of love is entirely beyond the question of sex and material devotionAgain this is why the slurp is there to full separate (You) from the main character. (You) using Shinichi to do it, but it’s effectively (You) interacting directly with her. It’s almost like (You) are absolving her of her feelings of cheating: as long as the sex scene can be seen by (You) it’s effectively having sex with Aoi.
>>737509669>love is just chemicals in the brain Back to r/atheism you soulless faggot
>>737509669Just because it wasn't conceived directly from the Greek concept of Eros, it doesn't mean you cannot adopt that stance. In general, just because somebody else didn't give you an opinion before, it doesn't mean you can't hold it yourself.>>737509871Totono does have a context that helps softening the blow indeed. Since Aoi didn't really conceive cheating on (You). But that separation is specifically instrumental to make a point about how she supposedly has a feeling that's not about fucking Shinichi or that shota, it's something more abstract for her since she is literally some sort of meta being.Now whether you believe actual people are capable of such abstraction it's another story.
>>737509669https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnaQXJmpwM4
>Group Sex of One Female and Several Males>NetoraseI will not play your game>Sex with Protagonist Only>Protagonist's Younger Sister as a Heroine>virgindb ratio is 100%I will now play your game
>>737508329Because it fucks up the dog's psyche permanently. He will consider the woman his mate, and try to take care of her, while having no ability to do so, which stresses the animal out constantly and makes it miserable.
