That fucker Toby is gonna make us wait until September for Chapter 5 of Deltarune, isn't he?
December release for December Holiday
>>737501125General/recurring discussion goes on >>>/vg/
>>737501254nope
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>>737501125The testing really SHOULDN'T take than long but he might sit on it for a while so he can show it off on some nintendo direct or whatever like last time.
>>737501254>didn't make the janny cut>he still does it for free
>>737501125CATTI AND JOCKINGTON WILL BE IMPORTANT TO CHAPTER 5TRUST THE PLAN
>>737502176I hope so, they only have been funny characters so far, and jockington has some FRIEND potential
>>737501125Probably that or August. You just have to keep WAITing. And then even more after Chapter 5 is out, 3 years at the very least. Hopefully he gives actual news soon, we're on a drought of content.Also last thread was deleted literally right before it got archived what the heck?
>>737501918This is a free release so I doubt he's waiting for a direct, we are probably getting another shadowdrop.>>737502176Catti and Jockington are irrelevant, sorry.
>>737502176Catti will forever be my favorite character if she swoops in last minute at the festival and clit blocks Noelle and Susie
>>737502176>original deltarune characters>"an interesting coincidence" if naming the vessel after either of them>text box portraits>portrait filenames are abbreviated (see https://hometownlibrarby.tumblr.com/post/727341025938538496)>mentioned in noelle blogIT'S HAPPENING>>737503346fuck you nigga
what do you think Carol's plan is? she's being all nice to (you) on the normal route makes me think Kris is supposed to be kinder to us or she thinks Kris is treating us semi-decently? either way she's cute as a button like her daughter...needs to eat a sandwich though she's so thin
Why do deltatrooners feel the need to have a thread up 24/7
>>737501125he has to become fluent in a bunch of third world languages so he can personally translate and release it all at the same time, which is only fair
>>737501125June unless he gets autistic about the Japanese translation, in which case July
>>737504051She's a gag character and I doubt she will do anything, you need to invest on Carol.>>737504625I used to believe on this but I can't see Toby making Catti, Toriel, Lancer, Berdly and Asriel all party members in the final 3 chapters. That's too many characters for only 3 chapters.
>>737504912They don't need to be party members to be relevant.
>>737504727Carol does seem to have a soul obsession but I don't know if she really is nice to us or not, the "you are welcome anytime" could be her talking to Kris, red text can refer to him as well.
>>737505031The blog you linked implied they're party members, that's why I mentioned it. I can't see them being relevant in 5 due to how many characters that chapter already has to juggle, too.
>>737504912Carol is already going to blame Susie for the church getting IED'd, thus banning her from the festival. Catti is the second line defense
>>737503274At least we'll have a good christmas discussing chapter 5 in comfy threads, sometimes the WAIT is comfy
>>737505102>>If the character is a member of the main cast (Which I'm defining as any major ally who visits a dark world)Literally the second line, silly. Toriel and Berdly and Lancer already meet this definition even though they were never party members.
how kralsei fans look at you when you call them trash
>>737505252I've got a sneaking suspicion we're going to run out of things to discuss with ch5 even faster than we did with 3 and 4
>>737505286Damn, I got caught>Blog thought that Toriel would have been totally be important in Chapter 3Kek. Following the blog's logic, though, Catti could be in a Dark World eventually but not really do much at all. She's on Gaster list and in Mantle so it isn't fully hopeless. >>737505237If Carol is on the Knight conspiracy, I doubt she will give enough attention to blame Susie about it. She will probably cover it up or the narrative will forget it like it did with 2's ending.
>>737505435I actually that doubt that because it will be a big cliffhanger Chapter like 1 and 2 and thus people will probably make fan content of it unlike with 5.
>>737505334This is the fanart I live for>>737505435No way, we have:- Weird Route Buff- Festival day Buff- (Probably) More stupid Sans- Asgore Chapter- Flower Coloured Souls- Noelle/Angel KinoThis is gonna be Huuuge, trust me, absolutely huge.
>>737505435We know it'll have a more in depth weird route then Chapter 4, plus there will be a million festival branches and the secret boss will probably be a cute touhou oc this time because ZUN is doing bullet patterns. Plus we'll get insight into the Asgore/Dess deal and the final scene with Egg Gaster. I think it'll hold discussion over until Chapter 6 in 2027 or whatever.
>>737501125I want to play as Mini Kris. I want to play as Noelle. I want to play as ANYONE ELSE than this faggot Kris.
>>737505798I would love to play as Ralsei, just Ralseia "Firegrave Route" would be kino
>>737505798i too have grown tired of this ungrateful, little enby. if Toby's trying to get me to dislike Kris he's going a good job
>>737505780If we get a cute female humanoid schizo I will go wild and become a true Toby shill.>>737504814Not nippon, Toby doesn't care. That drama is as dead and buried at this point.>>737504909That's too soon in my opinion, even if I think the nippon translation is already finished. Toby's game just take time.
>>737505334This art is too edgy honestly. >>737505798I'm certain that we will play 6 and 7 as the Vessel, which will create even more endless speculation to make us endure the WAIT.
>>737501125I really don't think or hope it's going to take as long as September for this one single chapter to come out. He said it was coming out on the second half of the year, but that's not until July 1st and it's still only April. The Japanese translation will be done (if not already) by the time May starts, so they'll have two whole months to port the chapter on all the consoles and test for bugs before we're even in the time frame that Toby plans to release it in. My estimated time frame is anywhere from July 15th - August 31st.
>>737506154I forgot to mention the flowers as well. We're going to have canon versions of the fallen humans, essentially. So that fuels fangames/fanfiction until Chapter 6. And obviously the touhou girl has shipping covered. I've pegged the release date early because toby mentioned not having external factors this time and that the game will be released when its done, so I took that to mean that since there's no switch 2 launch this time it'll come out a month or two early relative to when it's completed
>>737505043the red text makes me think otherwise anon but hey the fun of the game...so far...is the speculation
>>737506389Better version of that pic.
>>737506389I heard that 3 and 4 were filled with bugs upon release so I can see Toby taking more time to release it this time. August is definitely my personal bet.>>737506480The flowers being "canon" versions of the souls will be fun but I'm fearful if they will be real characters or not after 3 and 4 didn't focus too much on the darkners and that there's seven of them. I can see soul fangames getting a bit of a revival after it.Personally I don't think Toby delayed the chapter for the Switch 2 but instead rushed it to reach that date. Since he doesn't have to worry about that he can take as long as he wants to release it.
>>737506957Professional testing started on April 1st thoughbeit
I think it's coming out next month
>>737506518Like I said, Kris can be associated with red text like when Toriel said he slashed her tires, but you're right it's vague so neither of us are right.
it's taking lots of time because Toby is trying to get Pixar to include Woody as the schizo boss
>>737501254>If there is no advertised janitor recruitment going on, you're out of luck. Be patient!
>>737501125How the fuck were they able to make ch2 ready for release in like two months, but ch5 is taking like half a year to get done?
>>737507035Actual delusion.
>>737504727>>737506518sex with carol
>>737507438it would be like fucking the Grinch
>>737505334>>737505735Sometimes edge can be kino
>>737507025Goddamnit. 1,000,000 years in MSPaint later:
>>737507405Playtesting and translation always took this long, though.
>>737508075>mogged by her younger sister>mogged by the weird kid next doorno wonder dess was the town weirdo in her dayhttps://files.catbox.moe/zx3ptq.png
>>737508075ZAMN Asriel “motorboated” THAT
>>737508076Last I checked ch2 was still in beta stage July 2021, with it coming out two months later on pc. I think the ports and jap version came out like a month later. That was with a smaller, less experienced team mind you
suzy :)
>>737508075>Flat>Is a weirdo loserNo wonder she molested Kris.
>>737508075I want to make Dess worse. I want to be the reason she crashes out and drags Kris into the bunker...
with the amount of dess fanart I wouldn't be surprised if Toby decided to make her a literal black shadow in the shape of a deer in a flashback/memory sequence
>>737508251I love human booba.https://files.catbox.moe/ig7zy6.png
>>737508831that would just fuel the "she was retconned out of existence like gaster" theories more
>>737508867She was, though. It's so obvious she's stuck in the game's code
>>737508569>I think the ports and jap version came out like a month later.That explains why it was so fast, then. Plus Chapter 2 had a lot of game breaking bugs that had to be patched out later.
>>737508701:)
>>737508917there are people that believe that the UNUSED is actually asrielknowing tobias, nothing is "obvious" until it appears in the game
>>737508976I love this purple dino girl like you wouldn't believe
>>737508075don't worry guys ralsei being a titfag is actually elaborate foreshadowing for asriel dating dess for her massive brapper since ralsei is an evil chud version of asriel
>>737503346>This is another free release All the fucking chapters are a free release so long as you bought the first two when that came out however many years ago
give me funny images and i might make stupid edits of them
>>737508928Were there? The only bugs I remember was the robot fight lasting way to long and the spamton fight exploit
>>737509191Ralsei is more like a good version of Asriel. Flowey was the evil chud.
>>737509206Nigga what? Ch3/4 drop was the first time you had to pay
>>737508251
>>737509269Toby had to do a big patch because of the way saving labeled rooms. I remember it temporarily breaking the game because of it.
>>737509206You mean as long as you bought 3 and 4. 1 and 2 were free
After watching David Lynch's Mullholland Drive (a filmmaker who Toby Fox undeniably takes inspiration from). I was starting to wonder, what if Undertale was Kris's power fantasy/wish-fulfillment dreamscape just like the first 110 minutes of Mullholland Drive are Diane's power fantasy of her reality? Right from the get-go we understand the world of Deltarune is a far more grounded, "real" version of the world of Undertale, perhaps the emphasis of Undertale's "choices mattering" is Kris coping with the fact he doesn't have any agency over his own fate (In reality, your choices DON'T matter)
>>737509502There's a theory that Undertale exists in-universe as the game on Asriel's PC
>>737509502This is just the "Deltarune is the game Asriel was making"slop and I still don't like it. Undertale is a real, separate world where Gaster came from and where Sans will go, not a made up reality.
>>737509246
>>737509246Papyrus version, please.
>>737509532and this is the future that awaits them.
>>737509658>>737509649I never said Undertale is NOT real, in Mullholland Drive, what happens in Diane's power fantasy is VERY much real, but only in a different degree of reality. I am still arguing for Undertale BEING a parallel story to Deltarune, not a "simulation" or "game" inside the world of Deltarune. Reality isn't a binary yes/no, you know?
>>737501125Why haven't you learned to not play episodic games until the final episode release date is announced?
>>737509532That's what they want but this is what they'll get
>>737509246Requesting this with Tenna and a plate of pipis. Raised eyebrow included.
>>737509890I still don't see Kris getting powerful enough to create an entire universe. I think it's more likely Deltarune is the power fantasy reality of Gaster instead.
>>737509246>Asgore's lipstick was on Rudy's cockSans version
Why are twink goat boys such peak?
how to properly offend a momber of the holiday family:grinc = niggagrinch = niggergotta give it the hard h
>>737509371He didn't even post actual loli doe and human.
>>737510007Is that supposed to be a bad thing?
>>737510158Kris isn't creating an entire new universe. What I'm saying is that Undertale might be Kris's fantasy, he moves a character here, moves a character there, changes this, changes that. Using Baudrillard's framework of Simulacrum, I would say Undertale is a hyper-real, more vivid, more fantastical and whimsical interpretation of the world of Deltarune. In Mulholland Drive, the Club Silencio scene is deeply symbolic because the host states "There is no band! It's all tape recording! It's an illusion", yet Rebekah del Rio's performance very much affects Betty and Rita, it makes them cry their eyeballs out, because despite it being an illusion, the emotions it makes them feel are very real. And, similarly to Mullholland Drive, Undertale being Kris's power fantasy is nowhere near the "Undertale is a game in Asriel's computer" theory, because, storytelling wise, that isn't something that would reveal more of a character, but Undertale BEING Kris's wish fulfillment power fantasy is perfectly in line with WHO Kris is.
>>737509246this but with papyrus, dess and rudy (ignore the text)
>>737510659Yeah, I prefer Undertale being as real as Deltarune and not just an illusion, so I'm not a fan. I think it's more likely Deltarune is that made by Gaster which is why it's based on Undertale's own angel prophecy.
>>737510810What's wrong with Undertale being an illusion? It would make sense too, much more than Deltarune being an illusion inside Undertale.
>>737510610For Kris? yesMe on the other hand
>>737509658if undertale is a fictional game inside deltarune what makes it any more fictional than the dark worlds based off children's playthings and other such bullshit
>>737501125Toby Fox announced two weeks ago that the release date for Deltarune chapter 5 was postponed because he had another dream and is starting from over and remaking the game from scratch.>>737501212If Toby did this, and if Gaster isn't explained or get involved with the plot overtly by the end of Chapter 7, I'm hunting down and beating Toby Fox with a hockey stick.
>>737509867
>>737504727>what do you think Carol's plan is?Easy, Dess groomed Kris for Carol to use as her new sex toy.Makes sense since she is a politician.
>>737511636>SunglassesBetter than I could've ever imagined.
>>737510924I don't like the idea of each game being lesser than the other, and the only reason why I said it makes more sense for Deltarune to be the illusion is because Gaster's universe of origin is Undertale and he seems to be behind all of Deltarune. >>737511038I want Undertale to be more real than the Dark Worlds, though. I don't want it to be at the same level as it.
>>737511959>I don't like the idea of each game being lesser than the otherWell I'm not saying Undertale is a lesser reality, in fact it's a hyper-real version of Deltarune. Also, literally nothing confirms Undertale is Gaster's universe of origin, the goners could be very misleading as well.
its a mystery why you people are even allowed to post on this website to discuss your """""""game"""""""
>>737506135This reminds me of that meme pic where the Mortal Kombat 1 characters are jumping out of the arcade and the kids playing it are screaming and shitting their pants, lol
>>737512068Everything suggest he was the royal scientist and his experiments in Undertale is what caused him to shatter, and there's no reason to assume his followers are lying and the only information about him is false.
>>737501254they won't accept the charatranny in /vg/
>737513290Is this the first time the schizo admitted humanposters aren't /vg/?
>>737508701
>>737514338Uoooohhhhhh ToT!
>>737514338Those photos would imply Susie has parents that actually care about her. But...
>>737514338She's so cute
>>737507235>Woodyfags still coping with their dead meme
>>737510105
>>737515817based drawfag
>>737515817Fucking perfect
>>737512156What the fuck am I looking at
>>737509532Kris can have the furries, I got better with me in another universe. That would be my ideal future.
>>737505798I don't get the people who complain about Kris. So much of the narrative revolves around him and the relationship you have with him. Like what do you even find interesting about the story without him in it? It would literally just be happy lesbian fun time.
>>737514338Rawr! :3
someone post the how gooks draw frisk image
>>737516472I just assume it's shitposting about him being a bad and disloyal vessel. He's unironically an excellent character.
>>737510197
>>737516472its 50% shitposting and 50% esl's getting upset that kris is an actual character and not their proxy in the game
>>737503346Eh each release is still a reason to have a marketing push, he'd be dumb to purely rely on Deltarune growing much more if he needs more money, but he'd also be dumb to not seek out additional means of advertising the game
>>737501125I love how we can't have good Deltarune threads on me because all you fuckers talk about is kris's gender.Anyway there is a hand behind the tree
>>737516793i remember people talking about this a while agoi forget what the consensus was, iirc it was weird sprite wrapping on the trees
>>737516472Hateable mentally ill shit. And sure, being hateable is way better than being boring, but doesn't mean I wouldn't fuck theythem over at the first opportunity.
>>737501125lol you think the game is getting finished before 2030
>>737516662Peak
>>737501713install gentoo then
>>737516793The thing behind the upmost tree to the left? That's not a hand, those are leaves
Stop lusting for deer.
>>737516472kris is an interesting character so much so that I want to see them do stuff and be able to do my own thing in turn. however they're also a disobedient vessel and I've gotten tired of their shenanigans. i want my body back and screw whatever their little promise is. i will have my freedom.
>>737517478no. the holidays being to (you)
>>737516793Gender discourse has always been a thing since Undertale, it's inevitable. I also don't see anything there at all.
>>737516472Kris definitely has done something awful to get tied up doing the Knight's/Carol's bidding. He definitely is anti (you), no matter the route at the current state of the game he has to put up with the red soul and is clearly using it as a means to an end. Me liking him is dependent on whether by circumstance he got wrapped up in whatever is cursing him and he's trying to do the best thing, or if he's trying to throw someone or something else under the bus
>>737516767The only time Deltarune had a marketing was for 3 and 4. Toby doesn't seem like the guy that does any real marketing
>>737517794He doesn't need marketing. Toby can just make one official tweet, even a vague one like 'Something spooky is coming on Halloween!' and the entire fanbase would signal boost it into the space. So long as he doesn't do Kojima style bait and switch bullshit where the big reveal is just a 4k pic of some meal he had that day, fans would happily carry the message for him. Paying for marketing is for suckers once you're big enough.
>>737516739I feel like self-insertfags usually love Kris, though. It's Frisk and mostly Chara that they hate because they aren't cool self-inserts.
>>737517986I wasn't saying he should buy ads or streamers to play the game, but like he should at least get something like a direct or some other gaming show time slot to drop a trailerHis fandom is fairly loyal and probably at market saturation, so I can also just see him kicking back and making shit when he feels like it being viable too
>>737516472I just find him uninteresting at best and annoying at worst rn. That goes for Noelle as well.However, that might change depending on how their relationship is handled in the future as well as their ties to Dess.
>>737517986Toby will probably do that two or one week before release. Like he did with Chapter 2.
>>737501125what the fuck am I even looking at in this image?
>>737518218Kris knocked down with pixel Kris pointing his sword at himI don't know what it's referencing
>>737518289what the fuck that's a sword? I thought it was an extremely fucked up upside-down chara jumpscare sprite
>>737518346Mini Kris is very glitchy but now that you say it, it does look like Chara a bit.
>>737518346It has a hilt and a blade, the hand holding it is just a cartoony nub I'm getting suspicious someone lazily painted over a dick now that I'm looking at it more
>>737516597I don't have it but I can give you a free gook Frisk coupled with gook Chara just for (you)
>>737518218Kris was playing Marathon but got downed, and his attacker showed up with his cock out and ready to go.
>>737517478NEVER
>>737518437That's my dick raping FemKris.
>>737518872Why is he so opposed to fucking Noelle? Is he gay?
>>737517478We can always lust for humans if you REALLY want it. >>737517687This but humans.
>>737519107Actually, she's straight according to FemKrisschizos but she also made Noelle gay.
>>737519175If you like humans so much, then why don't you marry one?
>>737519217>the anti femkris schizo is so mindbroken he's pretending to be a femkrisbro to poison the welljust retvrn to reddit at this point, you'll be among your own kind
>>737519776AAAAAAAAAAIEEEEEEEEEEE I'm not the anti-human schizo, usually I'm the one accusing others of being him! It was a playful jab!
>>737519540I would if they were real. Has technology progressed enough where humans are real yet?
>>737519217>made Noelle gay>MadeNoelle was already a dyke. In fact, she's THE dyke of deltarune.
>>737516472Kris is a demanding character and I feel it's the most difficult one to accept. To like Kris truthfully, you have to embrace the fact that Kris isn't the player, is anti-self insertion, and will antagonize the player for reasons outside of your control. At the same time you have to find Kris either endearing because of their personality, or find Kris worthy of your compassion because of their troubles. So if you cannot accept Kris' inherent oddities that are crucial to Kris' character, you cannot really accept and like Kris. This is where Kris is different from Chara and Frisk where their characters are so kept dilluted and vague you can sort of fill them with headcanon and ignore the parts you dislike because there's so few of them to even dislike. If you do that to Kris you're denying key parts of their character.Kris might be the ultimate Anti Self-Insert, AND also Anti-Headcanon character. You can't really enjoy Kris by pretending it's just a self insert to use to fuck the monster girls, or a self insert for nonbinary players to live their gender fantasies, or just some doll to jerk off to. All of those are disruptions of Kris' character. Which also makes Kris one of the most interesting exercises of Player and Character interaction out there.
>>737517687This top is extremely prone to underboob nip slips
>>737520634idk, she switches teams pretty fast on the weird route.
>>737520696i agreeunfortunately some people understand that kris isn't their self insert, but is still toby's because of some shared traits as if that isn't something every writer has done due to it being a point of familiarity to make writing the character easier
>>737520776underboob is based
Remember Ch5 was already being worked on since 2024. Ch6 has barely been worked on, so its likely Ch6 will be 2028, or very VERY late 2027.That will be half the hell of waiting for CH3/4 again, and I can already tell there's going to ne a awful cliffhanger to wait on this chapter, 100% chance
>>737521123yes I did say say ne.that's how serious i am
>>737520905
>>737520634Nobody is born gay and Noelle seems to be a dyke because of her mommy and sister issues.
>>737521123Don't forget. Gaymemaker's costom feature for deltarune still needs to be updated and tested post ch5
>>737521123yeah, the ending being a cliffhanger is all but guaranteed especially when you consider that way back toby originally wanted 2-5 to all be part of the same package afaik we don't actually know how much ch6 has been worked on, but i presume that toby has everyone who isn't translating or bugtesting working on it by now
>>737515817Aaand saved.
>>737520696>This is where Kris is different from Chara and Frisk where their characters are so kept dilluted and vague you can sort of fill them with headcanon and ignore the parts you dislike because there's so few of them to even dislike. If you do that to Kris you're denying key parts of their character.I disagree partially with this. Kris is indeed less vague than Frisk and Chara and thus you can't use headcanon to imagine his character as much as them, but he still has a lot that can be interpretation and headcanon, he isn't a fully open book that we can't change anything about it. No Toby character is "anti-headcanon" because of his own policy that your interpretation of his games is as valid as your own. He just isn't the type not let you interpret anything about Kris or any of his characters.
>>737521185Dessso sexo.
>>737520824the Holiday women canonically can not resist (you). Carol totally obsessed. Noelle the side chick. Dess has a closet full of heart shaped pillows that might as well be a shrine to (you).
>>737521123I actually think the cliffhanger will help the wait because it will make people discuss, theorize and create fantakes about it, which we didn't get with 3 and 4's anticlimax.
>>737520776the Holiday women are all different variants of slutty. please understand.
>>737505334I agree with >>737506212 That it's too edgy. And I would further criticize that it seems too disconnected from the source material. It looks like a really bad fanfic. It's deltarune.exe
>>737521567I think inserting headcanon onto Kris is counter intuitive to Kris' character. Kris is the very character rejecting the Player and, to a degree also rejecting the player's vision of who Kris is, whatever it is.
>>737521331There are a few saving graces of that feature's existence.>The entire fanbase is the one that's doing the testing of that feature to find any bugs that would be present in the five released chapters.>Toby and the team just have to go through all of the reports, make the fixes, and use that data to gauge expectations for fixing the next chapters to be released.>It's not supported on Xbox yet, which will keep Toby from making the obligatory Xbox port of the game just because Undertale was ported to it -- delaying development and increasing the testing workload through the addition of a whole other console family.>With any luck, it stays that way until the game's finally complete.>Also wouldn't be surprised if Toby is the one gatekeeping Xbox support for the feature if he has this much influence with Gamemaker itself.>It gives us an excuse to play through the game again :)
>>737521713yeah but we only discussed TWO CHAPTERs like, 2 months max? We discussed CH2 for at least 2 years, since it was open ended (and to be honest, ch3/4 is pretty linear what we expected it could've been).Honestly these discussions have been pretty shit this time, and I blame it on Toby taking too long, I was obessed with DR, but even i dont have the same interest as much anymore, there's no reason this should be taking so long, even if its a "delay = never bad" thing, he can still do it right and faster, he's just a lazy dog
>>737501125akikazeume, I wonder if this is meant to look so sexy...
>>737521713ch4 needed a breather ending imohaving yet another cliffhanger after ch2 would've been tiring, especially considering that ch3 also ended on one
>>737521997sorry lots of typos tonight, i should sleep.
>>737521997nta but ch2 was much more open to interpretation due to how little we actually knew about everything while we still don't have much actual info still, we know enough to say that patternfagging and over the top theorycrafting isn't going to pan out we also didn't have an event to keep the hype going like the sweepstakes, or toby occasionally drip feeding info with the newsletters all we got is a single shop song and toby's word that 'anything else would be a spoiler', which i think is him just trying to be cheeky
>>737521895Kris rejects the player but our relationship with them isn't that binary, we also enhance Kris and Kris enhances us. Eventually we're going to work with Kris, not just against him. Toby isn't the type to say making headcanon is wrong after the 10th anniversary stream and Gerson's whole character.
>>737521997Chapter 2 perfectly expanded Deltarune in a way we could have endless fan content about it, unlike with 3 and 4. Like that other anon said, 3 and 4 killed patternfagging which was a huge source of fan content. Plus the cliffhanger had us argue for years why Kris opened the fountain and what the TV and its world was going to be like, plus Sweepstakes and Spamton’s meme status giving us plenty of steam. Meanwhile nobody really wants to do fantakes for the festival or flower shop Dark World because of how open ended it is. If 5 ends in a big cliffhanger like getting the Vessel back I can see people discussing about it for 3 years.
>>737522197I don't think Toby believes that, I just think for the purpose of Kris' character, headcanons are improper, not wrong per se.
>>737522173something is up with toby this year thoughno valentine message (always been one last few years), no april fools, no general teases other than what you mentionedI really do believe there are big spoilers this time, but I am curious still how he will present it, I mean the footage of CH4 from the 3/4 trailers could've been spoilers but it actually said nothing, so will he have to show videos/screenshots this time, or just a title to download?I'm hope the royal science website will come into play this time
>>737522419He's never done an april fools if I recall, though Fangamer did a 3D Toriel keychainAs long as his lack of communication means he's working harder on the game and not the more likely explanation of partying with ZUN, cool
>>737522419>royal science websiteHuh?
>>737522419What's the royal science website?
>>737522531>>737522543I dont have the link but way back in DR ch1 he owns the website address to "royal sciences", which I presume he will use at one point, seems like a good website to tease at one point. Its old chapter 1 data and leaks, even I cant save everything said 8ish years ago
>>737522419people have been waiting for this chapter the longest the past 7 years have all been building up to the festival and ch5 as a whole, all the way back to 2019ish when toby first spoke about the rest of the game after ch1remember that nobody even knew ch6 and 7 were even a thing until ch2 came out and they were on the chapter select this is the make or break part of deltarune, if he doesn't stick the landing with ch5 it's all over, so i get him being paranoid about it i think he has it in his head that if he shows anything people might be able to guess something big, and ruin it before the chapter comes out, but considering how 99% of the post ch2 theories were wrong, and the few that were correct were mostly due to the sheer abundance of theories thrown out there, i think toby might be overthinking this a bit
>>737522389That's a fairer take in my opinion, but I still can't see Toby thinking that making fanfiction about Kris and interpreting him beyond his mold as improper. Like I said the relationship between Kris and the player is not just a binary but finding a common understanding. The important person's shirt description (assuming it's a Kris/Chara reference) is my best evidence with the whole "your love will become theirs, their love will become yours" line.
>>737522531>>737522543>>737522645iirc the 'official' name of toby's company is 'royal sciences llc', which is obviously a reference to gaster
>>737522645Maybe he was considering combining the websites for Undertale and Deltarune for a bit under one title before changing his mind because it'd make Gaster marginally less mysterious
>>737507405Toby needs to do more vtuber collabs please understand
>>737522419No valentines message is weird but Toby doesn't do april fools. The big spoilers I assume is just the festival and Dark World. People forget most of the teasers we got was about Chapter 3, we got nothing for 4 until we got the release date. The further we go in the game, the less stuff Toby will show to us. It's only natural but you have to get used to it.>>737522531>>737522543It's Undertale's copyright holder. It's just a quirky easter egg, it's nothing that important.
>>737521123>Ch6 has barely been worked onwrong they're at least several months into development by now
>>737522070The problem is that 5 got delayed otherwise it would've been fine.
>>737522827toby, we know its important
>>737522862as I said, barely been worked on it. Several months = 1 week (normal indie development). By logic, CH5 was already 1 year of development when Ch2-3 came out, and we're still waiting 1 year later. two years for a chapter is crazy lazy
>>737522647If he was worried about people guessing what happens in Chapter 5 he should not have included that panel about Asgore, the bit about the field of pink and gold being charred in the inferno of jealousy, the miss mizzle line talking about the blue flower, or the bit in the development update about "?????" working on bullet patterns, or the line where Seam talks about the shadow crystals in the translation update. That might as well spoil the entire chapter. We know you fight Asgore, meet the flowers, fight a touhou girl, attend the Festival, learn about Friend, and learn that the shadow crystals contain determination. What is there possibly left in Chapter 5 that could be surprising?
>>737522909Yes, I'm Toby Fox and I'm here to say that every anon who said the stream showed my true colors as a Frisk and especially Chara waifufag is right. I'm still torn on FemKris, I need more hot fanart before deciding if it's canon or if Susie is my w4l
>>737522994meant 3-4
>>737523006Toby cares about spoilers, and most of this is just foreshadowing that is probably wrong. Foreshadowing future events vaguely is valid by him, but not straight up telling you it.
>>737523006anon we originally thought ch2 might've been a hospital dark world from the early screenshotsgranted, ch3 was actually a tv world, but its little obvious from the ch2 cliffhanger endingThe asgore garden could be anything, it doesn't mean it actually says what it means, or if its even a dark world based on it. My guess is something to do with the sewers/ice-e this chapter than an actually garden, since it feels like re-direction again.Also I have a firm believe that despite toby's ashamed earthbound halloween hack, theres a lot of connections between that and deltarune, including a revealed scientist at the end and a long sewer part, which I believe will also come to play here
>>737523006there's also the way it's presented from what little info we do have, it's impossible to come up with anything concrete, just vague 'this probably will happen' moments we also still have jack shit on friend, iirc we don't even know if the 'tail of hell' actually belongs to it or if people are just assuming shit again
>>737523126i give the toby credit though, his testers and friends are god tier trustful. Not a single leak or anything, he really has the best friends (although maybe not the best workers, due to the pace of creation)
>>737523032how's this?
>>737523126I guess, I think he's doing too much honestly/ Hell I forgot to mention that we also know there will be a bread master that helps the pizza guy make more item fusions, and a wheat field where you find forgotten man, and exactly who's going to the festival with who on every route. Honestly I do want to believe the only reason he's revealing so much is because the chapter has types of secrets no chapter has had before. So he's willing to basically spoil the egg man encounter, weird route, shadow crystal boss, final boss, characters, etc. because the chapter is going to have something completely insane and unpredictable like a second dark world in a different location with its own set of secrets and events
>>737523242That's alright but I made puppy Kris because I wanted him to knot people. This doesn't fit my vision so it knocks it down.
>>737523182given that toby actively decided to make a reference to andonuts' most iconic line with the toxicaxe, i don't think toby is nearly as 'ashamed' with the halloween hack as people think he is at worst he probably considers it an immature first attempt at a game, which had a lot of ideas he would later expand upon in undertale and deltarune he clearly still thinks about it a lot, and some people even think kris is just his modern take of varik
>>737523182A lot of Chapter 2 guesses were pretty terrible and Chapter 3 guesses mediocre but people were pretty much entirely on the money with Chapter 4.
>>737523342The main problem is that a lot of this stuff is vague or irrelevant or you assuming stuff that isn't actually confirmed (asgore fight, touhou girl, etc). It's not more that we had for Chapter 3 or even 4 (we had Mike and TV confirmation, we had the cowboy segment and the weather duo, the church, the shadowguys, etc). There's still a lot of things that Toby can throw a curveball at.
>>737520696>>737521895I think it's correct to describe Kris as an "Anti-self insert" but I think it's wrong to understand that as "a character whose role in the story completely rejects self-insertion."An "Anti-self insert" character is still a kind of self-insert character, just like an "anti-hero" is still a heroic character and not just a villain. Kris creates dissonance, friction and conflict resisting our control and direction of them, which is very different than a character like Susie who completely ignores our attempts to direct her. Susie is not an anti-self insert character, she's simply not a self-insert character at all. We aren't expected to put ourself in Susie's shoes in the same way that we are with Kris, regardless of whether Kris likes it or not.In our relationship with Kris it is impossible to avoid "self-inserting" and developing "headcanons" to some extent, we have been placed into Kris's perspective in the game and the game deliberately enforces the idea that You and Kris are one and the same, even as Kris blatantly rejects this. The tension and conflict between You and Kris hinges on maintaining this pretense, this dissonance between the player and player character is what Toby is exploring.You have been given Kris's face and name and you unavoidably have to make decisions for them and respond when people ask you what you think and how you feel. Even if you try to answer like Kris would, you are forced to make assumptions about Kris because you don't know them and you haven't lived their life until now (What's Kris's favorite food? What was Asriel's main in Super Smashing FIghters?).We are in this position because we are unable to communicate with Kris, and we can't communicate with Kris because many of Kris's thoughts and feelings, words and actions, and even their expressions are deliberately hidden from us. We are forced to try to understand Kris on our own, because we are an outsider that has been inserted into this story.
>>737523462Nobody really predicted the Knight, the prophecy or the Titan. Only that it was in the church and Gerson maybe could've been involved (which was a minority).
>>737523531Asgore fight is confirmed because the filename for the panel is "boss3"Touhou girl is a stretch but I genuinely don't see an outcome of him teasing "????? is working on bullets patterns!" that doesn't equal "ZUN did the secret boss"I do hope there's curveballs though
>>737523605Still convinced we get the angel reveal this chapterand gaster next chapter (chapter 6 for a reason)god knows what 7 is, the real roaring? I doubt its this chapter
Male kris is for monster pussyFem kris is for me (and monster pussy)
>>737520776>>737520905
8 years anons... its been 8 fucking yearslets it go.
>>737523650The Asgore thing could be referring to the flower he's holding, and ?????? can be anyone about anything even if having a female humanoid would make me rock hard.>>737523723Female humans are only for *me.
>>737521185Kris is so lucky...
>>737523908Something, something you're here forever.
>>737522047>>737523969Fuck... Where are the super hot Deltarune doujins?...
>>737523804Desso sexo 2.
>>73752402690% of UT/DR doujins are sadly fransslop, but there's probably some and based doujin hidden somewhere we don't know.
>>737523723Holy based
>>737522047That artist only seems to draw SFW, it's probably not actually supposed to be sexual and we just have a very perverted mind.
>>737524247It doesn't need to be that specific artist, I just want porn with that non-cheap portrayal of Kris.
>>737504727My theory is that Carol is interested in the red soul for its supernatural power to ward off Titans and seal Titans/Dark Worlds. The red soul isn't the only anti-Titan weapon connected to the Holidays. We know that the Black Knife the Knight is carrying likely has anti-Titan properties by looking at the Black Shard, and the Knight is likely a Holiday due to their antlers. Dess also have lots of heart-shaped objects in her closet too. Isn't it curious that the Holidays are connected to not one but two anti-Titan weapons?My wilder theory is that the Holidays are a clan of Titan-sealers who are responsible for sealing the Titans within the shelter under Hometown, the Dark Worlds are actually the "barrier" sealing the Titans (requiring a sacrifice every now and then to maintain) and Kris isn't actually a real human, but a "cage vessel with human parts" created by the Holidays somehow for the sole purpose of housing the red soul that is used to seal the Titans.Kris never had an "original soul" of his own. That bloodstain in his room? I believe that it is just time loop shenanigans. Perhaps before the game start, a time traveler from the previous loop sneaked into Kris' room, took out the red soul of the current loop from the birdcage and crushed it forming the bloodstain, before replacing it with the red soul of the previous loop that they brought with them.
>>737524418Damn. I guess you will have to wait and be a bit lucky that a drawfag does it like they did with this Kris. Gotta to have hope.
>>737501125Please keep making these dogshit threads. Toby is a genius for quarantining you retards away from the rest of us. I thank him every night.
>>737510282It's insane how much I wanna shove my dick inside Ralsei
>>737523032
>>737501125Kris is a lesbian girl
>>737525094Berdly is so lucky...
>>737525094kris' undersuit being skin tight is peak and underutilized
>>737525094That's pretty good. Going to ask Temmie to draw feminine variations of Kris's festival clothes because of it.
>>737521997These new chapters were obnoxiously lean. Barely any new characters, and none of those few managed to become enduring fandom memes like the previous ones. Patterns got obliterated and replaced with nothing, so there is no template to fuel fan content. The tone arguably shifted harder than in the True Lab in some ways, and we're still years away from the ending. There is nothing to discuss except a blander Knight speculation with less options, more mystery boxes than can be open and torn apart in any way now, and shipping faggotry.>>>737521123Him avoiding to show chapter 5 content while dropping a bomb by casually spoiling dialogue mentioning Dess and (almost) the deal with the shadow krystals is suspicious to me. Adding the fact 5 was supposed to be the ending of the bundle, I feel it will completely obliterate any remainder of how the early game worked, and 6+7 will be a very different beast of a game/story.Though, him saying 5 was the other "more traditional" chapter alongside 4 tells me it will be just more of the same of what we got now.We are heading to the potentially most painful WAIT of all after this, and it will be even worse if 5 ends up being another lean chapter.
>>737521123Think 6 and 7 will come out at same time then the chapter 0 as an anniversary gift?
>>737516472nuke. good thing kris is my fave
>>737525318>and it will be even worse if 5 ends up being another lean chapterI really doubt that it will be. It's feeling like most things that are currently set up outside of Gaster/Friend/the prophecy will reach their conclusion next chapter.
when the fuck are we actually getting anything? i dont want this fandom to have a digital circus level crash out again even by this time last year we had a few funny teasers or something all we have is a few quirky mike room scenes and one melancholic song
>>737525490There is just way to much stuff, from lore and plot threads to all the mystery boxes and imagery each chapter keeps adding. Remember how much chapter 1 era discussion is completely alien to what we have right now, and even chapter 2 discussion is quite distant now, while apparently some people were already discussing Asriel after the undertale demo.
>>737525318>We are heading to the potentially most painful WAIT of all after this, and it will be even worse if 5 ends up being another lean chapter.It won't be that bad if we get a good cliffhanger. Chapter 6 is already the Chapter with most fantakes, I don't see that decreasing
>>737525897at the bare minimum Carol and kris's plan really needs to get going and we need a big pay off. wherever chapter 5 ends we need to have some substantial plot beats knocked out because like the other anon said we still have the bunker nonsense, friend, the (you)/ vessel, Asriel, papyrus, and the roaring to deal with. the mystery box bs has to stop
>>737526031Another cliffhanger is how this will be painful. 1 and 2 arguably had well closed dark world stories, specially with the sitcom laughter ending in cyberworld, and the "Kris fucks around" cliffhangers are more like last second rugpulls. They both get away with cliffhangers due to how early they are in the story. 3 had a brutal gut punch of an ending that solved nothing, and 4 was a bunch of anticlimaxes on top of each other.Chapter 5 has to answer at least half of the mysteries to not be a jarring ending, you can't stretch this for longer, much less try to twist it harder than it already is.
>>737526349Yes, but the cliffhangers are were we discussing shit, too. Most of 2's discussion was discussing what Kris did. 4 lacked discussion power because there's not much to discuss the act of Sans dancing with Toriel.
>>737501254>You're not allowed to talk about a video game on a video game boardPlease exit life
>>737527083>Most of 2's discussion was discussing what Kris didHalf of the discussion was on those lines. The other half tried to guess what the next chapters would be like and who the next funny guys could be.>not much to discuss the act of Sans dancing with TorielHalf of the discussion now is relationships, which includes those two.
I want to frankly ask why do you guys clown so much on chapter 2 WAIT era pattern seeking when chapter 2 was pretty much begging for people to do that.I'm serious, chapter 2 copies a TON of elements and plot beats from 1.>first area is an open field, second area are narrow paths, third area is the main boss's lair>a lightner is initially confused about what is going on, and acts antagonistic to you until the third area begins>the second area changes the party formation and character allegiances for a bit>secret boss is a crazy guy who has ties to gaster and to reach it you need to get a key for the boss's lair's basementOnly Queen bends it a little by fulfilling both Lancer and King's roles, but she also looks just like them for some reason, and even her battle arena looks like Kings.Why are these two chapters, and ONLY these two like this?
>>737527720Chapters 1 & 2 could have been condensed together, they existed to introduce all of the characters and basic facts about how dark worlds workThe only thing 2 has up on one is it introduced an alternative route, that seemed to actually influence the game in a more significant way. The way how I see it, Toby wanted to give Kris, Susie and Ralsei and Noelle time to develop as charactersOnly issue is that those chapters barely do that well, we still are missing lots of information about each of those characters, and I'm pretty sure we'll be strung along until chapter 6/7 until we just get massive amounts of plotdumps
>>737527720we know queen used to be more distinct from king and lancer, along with potentially being a more threatening villain instead of another goofball antagonist as for why ch1 and ch2 were so similar, that's something only toby can answeri do agree it's strange that toby seemed to just make ch2 ch1+ feat. noelle, maybe it was intended to be a bit creepier in its first draft but got softened over time, and only spamton and weird route remained of it
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>>737501254>All that deltatroon seethegg anon
>>737527946I think you could lump Chapter 3 there as well with how much it does to establish what's up with the Dreemurrs, and Holidays to a lesser extent, and with the Knight, but it also doesn't do nowhere enough for those.Undertale had its plot dumps, but the conflict around Asgore was decently defined early on and was expanded bit by bit on the details, and even who Flowey was was well established into the Demo. Meanwhile, Deltarune is half over and we still have no clue what the Knight's endgame is.>>737528052I love my shitposter Queen, but for the overall game she should have remained a creepy antagonist after Tenna went through so much of the same territory as a character.>that's something only toby can answerI really wanna know. Did he consider chapter 1 to be mostly a proof of concept and used 2 as a "soft reboot" to course correct? Was he intentionally trying to entice patternfagging only to shock everyone by breaking those patterns? Was the game actually more pattern friendly at some point before he changed his mind?Spamton is really weird, the secret boss was just going to be Mettaton NEO's body at one point before he decided to shove Spamton in there, and thus introduced the concept of the "Schizoboss" into the fandom's mind, intentionally or not.
>>737529687Speaking of changing secret bosses I really want to know how you were going to get the shadow mantle before he added the backstage boards. My best guess is that there were going to be segments where Tenna left in which you could break the game and get it.
>>737530030didn't toby mention something about a tv tower after or in the 3rd board? sounds like a place where you'd find a secret boss to me
I wanna suck kris's testosterone infused clit dick
>>737530315this except their dick is normal and average sized
can we stop talking about kris feminine dick
I want sans to be transphobic and to misgender Kris and see the Toriel fans to scatter like cockroaches trying to defend this action with 'just let her be happy!"
>>737530030What the fuck was going on with chapter 3 is another mystery.The Knight holding the shaddow crystal was probably the idea from the start considering it's a major turning point and something Seam hinted at, but the Zelda parody was likely not part of his original vision since he clearly stated the first concept were Mario Party style minigames.That means Mantle and sword shit was going to be something completely different at one point. Maybe, when the Mikes were a sidequest within chapter 3 proper, they were going to hold it? They go back at least to the sweepstakes given that quick mention of plural "Mikes" there. Airwaves even has the Jevil leitmotif.Maybe Ramb was going to be a plain schizoboss at one point? He is a plugboy, a kind of darkner that had TWO more powerful forms in chapter 2, and he has the usual schizobabble from Jevil and Spamton.Maybe Eram was simply going to manifest in a different form?
Can we stop talking about how Kris dick sticks out of their skintight suit all the time and how Ralsei and Susie are just barely able to contain their lust
>>737530607we know the 8bit style was planned since at least 2022 since we got some teasers for it in the sweepstakes, and iirc one of the secret pages was titled 'glaceir', same as the song in mantle 2i also strongly believe that vapor buster was supposed to be the new ch3 battle song before it got designated to the water coolers, and while i do think it sounds good, i have no idea what the purpose of ruder buster was considering it only played for mini bossesthe irony of ch3 having (at least as far as we know) the most cut content while also having characters in game mention tenna cutting content is not lost on me
>>737530951I guess the mario party idea was scrapped early on, which I find a shame with how much I hate the minigame.Have in mind vapor buster was paired with the weather couple at first on the sweepstakes. The name even fits their theme a little.But I really don't get why Ruder Buster exists for a gran total of two fights in the whole game. And one of those is just a common enemy that doesn't get the song again. It could have been easily the Battle 2 theme before From Now On.Speaking of it, what the hell will even be the battle theme for chapter 5? From Now On is too tied to Church leitmotifs, it doesn't fit anything else. Going back to Rude Buster or Ruder Buster would be awkward after it. Another remix might be a little too much.
>>737530607Air Waves was called "Air Waves/Penultimate fight to the death in the night sky" at one point [it briefly, VERY briefly had that name on soundcloud. Maybe something with that.
>>737531718Considering Toby said every Chapter 5 song but Shop 3 has spoilers probably something with a preexisting leitmotif. The obvious pick is Asgore's theme, but I could also see Asriel's theme, Flowey's theme, [because of Asgore's flowers] or Dess's theme depending on how the chapter plays out
>>737531718i can see ruder buster showing back up again, but rude buster is 100% done at this point from now on is a weird one, the main motif is 'don't forget' but it's also borderline copy pasted from one of toby's songs in 'little town hero' https://youtu.be/S0BIqpR0JrU?t=1835so i don't know if toby is going to keep using it and try to pass it off as the new battle song he came up with just for the latter half of deltaruneif ch5 does have a new battle song, i think it might try to include more character specific motifs in it, maybe asgore's or 'faint courage' if it is indeed supposed to have kris' motifno chance vs susie comes back in ch5 though, toby is clearly saving that for a big confrontation that's probably in ch6
>>737531745isn't air waves just a remix of spamton/ big shot?i'm not sure if it was ever intended to be a song for a serious fight
>>737501125I'd be fine with that
I think that Deltarune is a good game and I expect future chapters will continue to be good
friend is the forgotten man
>>737530607>Maybe Eram was simply going to manifest in a different form?you know how ch. 1+2 secret bosses have two different equipment drops, a weapon and an armor piece?the shadow mantle is the knight's 2nd equipment drop. do the math.
>>737509875>Faha, FAGGOT, don't squeeze my arm so hard...
>>737535787the way seam talks about the mantle in ch2 makes it seem like it has nothing to do with the knight
>>737536948Items that give elemental resistances are always connected to the boss associated with said elemental pair.
>>737537124i more so mean that the knight being the ch3 crystal boss potentially wasn't the case when ch2 was written
i LOVE heteronormativity bros...>>737527720The funniest but also understandable is weird route patternLike how do you people expected Toriel to start burning people when she is fairly strict with Kris, but also it's not a bad idea, i can't blame people for waiting their fav character to be part of the evil routeAlso we didn't fully knew that Kris and Noelle relationship was that depth, we knew they were childhood friends but ch4 gave us even more context, which is the main reason the route can happen because we are exploiting their relationship to our advantage, Noelle allowed the couch scene because she invited Kris to her room
>>737505334There is beauty in the tragedy
>>737516119Patient zero of toxic fandoms
>be me>weird quiet manlet>get taken over by other wordly entity>entity makes me talk to other people>become best friends with my school bully>make friends with people who thought I was just some loner loser>makes me talk to my childhood crush who I grew apart from>rekindles friendship with said crush>starts a relationship with crush>be me>sitting in my now girlfriend's bedroom>making out with her>realizing this nigger entity is living my life better than I ever could
I know how Snowgrave is going to end!>noelle becomes strong enough to solo a titan>world is saved>everyone goes home to celebrate>entire town cheers for Kris, Susie, and Noelle>Noelle tells Kris she loves them>Kris goes to sleep>when Kris wakes up, you control them like it's become a life simulator>you do oddjobs to make money to take Noelle out>you build relationships with npcs>you do minigames and shit>you go home and go to sleep>you wake up and do the same thing again and again>until you stop playing deltarune and exit the program>when you start the game up again, Kris is in bed like usual, but not the same bed>Kris wakes up and leaves the room to reveal they're in a college dorm with Berdly, Snowdrake, Jockington and Lizardboy>once again you play a life simulator as Kris>once again you repeat the gameplay until you exit the program>once again when you start the game Kris is in a different bed, a big bed>when Kris exits the room, it reveals that he's married to Noelle and has kids with her>and the life simulator starts again>this time, restarting the program doesn't fast forward Kris's life>you just play Kris as a parent who has a job>who's good friends with everyone>who's best friends with Susie>who lives the same life everyday>unless you wait a week before starting the game back up>this time you don't find Kris in a bed>Kris is in an empty room>and they begin talking to (You)>asking where you've been this whole time>asking why you weren't there to control Kris like usual>asking why you let their marriage fall>let Kris lose their job>their friends>after being controlled for so long Kris forgot how to live>the only thing keeping Kris alive was hoping they would see you again>so you could witness Kris pulling out a knife and slitting their own throatAnd then you'll get a steam achievement
What if Kris was a beautiful black girl.
>>737540382only acceptable if she goes full goth/ emo
>>737522419hes a lazy faggot
fact: kris is adorable when she's trying (and failing) to act cool in front of susie
>>737541412>slowly pulls out a knife and points it Susie>blushes when Susie casually takes the knifeI love this little goober
>>737541412My beloved failwife...
>>737541507very cute moment after susie spills her guts out to kris about her past with pianos
>>737525318>Patterns got obliterated and replaced with nothingTruth nukeI was cool with the schizoboss/crystal pattern getting broken but what we got instead is underwhelming
Wifey.
>>737539753yeah cool whatev', LOAD
>>737521986>Also wouldn't be surprised if Toby is the one gatekeeping Xbox support for the feature if he has this much influence with Gamemaker itself.That makes no sense, why would he deliberately prevent them from adding support for this feature on Xbox
Lesbian gorls.
>>737527449People tried to guess what 3's Dark World was going to be like because we literally saw it made as the cliffhanger, so it was discussion directly related to it. Also shipping was always discussed even during the chapter 2 era (remember all the discussions about the ferris wheel Suselle scene?) it's just now shipping took the center stage because there's nothing else to discuss.
>>737537865sorry chuddy. but haven't you heard kris and noelle clamming it up is in vogue, we're a yuri site now, every woman in hometown is a man hating lesbo (ralsei is an honorary lesbian) and theres nothing you can do about it
>>737545483>theres nothing you can do about itAre you sure?
>>737527720I don't clown it. I knew Toby would break the patterns eventually but I didn't expect it to be so soon. I thought at least 3 and partially 4 would follow it but I was wrong, lol. The three areas pattern is still kind of true, every Dark World so far had 3 areas and a key to get to the gaster related boss though.
>>737546917Her pussy is out anon! This is a blue board! You can't show naked humans here!
>>737519217lmao. there is a higher likelihood of noelle secretly liking dick than a female kris being remotely straight
whats the least gay deltarune ship?
>>737539753This would be kino WTF
>>737546264I'm still assblasted because Undertale played itself straight and following its own patterns for about 4/5 of its normal route, so I expected Deltarune to follow that. Instead it shifted the tone before even the halfway mark.The Knight showing up, murdering the chapter boss and running to the bunker is the kind of stuff I expected as the huge plot twist for chapter 5, not fucking 3 outta 7.
>>737547235Dessriel, and it's not that much straight even.
>>737547235tumbloids and the femkrisfaggot FEAR the straight kriselle
>>737547235Ralsusie, and it's not even close.
>>737547235Dessriel. It's a traditional relationship between a man and a woman that doesn't make the man too feminine and the woman too masculine like Ralsusie, and Asriel is a canon he/him male unlike Kris.
>>737547174Considering the girl Noelle has the hots for is a massive tomboy it creates the possibility that she is at least turned on by masculinity.
>>737540382I don't mind tanned humans too much but I would rather Frisk or Kris be yellow or light-skinned. Maybe Toby should've made them aryan like Chara.
>>737529687I feel like 1 and 2 are the way they are because they are supposed to be the "introduction" part of the story. They're supposed to make us think dark world's will be funny adventures until the "delevopment" chapters 3-5 shatter it and expand their true purpose. That's why 3 starts like a funny adventure until it shifts into the meat of the plot with the Knight.
>>737548768Not disagreeing, but I still think this is an extremely bad faith move. 7 years of being tricked into expecting a game that was never going to happen. And this hurts because I really fell in love with that survey program.
>>737547235Lesbian WR Kriselle because Kris is the abused wife.
>>737548663Would sexo with that Frisk.
>>737547315I feel like that's because Undertale was intended to be replayed several times. Toby made the areas formulaic so that there wouldn't be that many changes from your choices. Meanwhile since Deltarune is a linear game he can go wild with the story as he doesn't have to worry about changing it depending on your choices. That's why only the weird route exists and the main change of it involves killing a secondary character and its other changes seem to be backloaded.>>737548908I don't think Toby intended to trick people, it's just the fault of the wait. If he released chapters 2 through 7 at once like he wanted we wouldn't have that problem.
>>737531718From Now On is definitely being played in Chapter 5 at the very least despite using the church themes. I can't see Toby already scrapping the battle 2 theme in one chapter.
>>737549375If the game has episodic releases it will be judged as an episodic story, regardless of what the real intention is. And I don't think the current Deltarune works as a continuous story either.
>>737549686I like Deltarune currently but everything involving its release is a mess, it's fine to judge it as it currently is now.
>>737549686>I don't think the current Deltarune works as a continuous story either.Why not?
>>737549963Not gonna type too much because I'm at work right now, but the game feels directionless. No chapter actually follows the tone from another, the aesthetical production value contrast between chapters is jarring, many features from early chapters are plain abandoned later on, and more.
>>737550148Those are fair criticisms, at least I wish there was an option to turn the mercy percentage UI stuff off to match with Chapter 1, or to turn it on in Chapter 1. I also really miss the targeting mechanic because having Jevil focus Ralsei was sick. Imagine if the Knight focused on Susie to threaten your ability to do substantial damage for example. Or if the Titan focused Kris to make Unleashing harder. It felt like targeting emphasized the element of having a party instead of just one character.
>>737550750Also speaking of the mercy stuff I really don't like the Chapter 2 and onwards system in general. I think the best solution would have been to keep S action and R action but make it so there's 2-3 S actions and 2-3 R actions per fight with unique names, and make it so in each battle you have to figure out which act or two among Kris, Susie's, and Ralsei's lets you befriend the enemy like in Undertale. Right now the mercy system is just the same as fighting.
>>737541412Humans are just really good and cute when wielding blades.>>737541539This but the other two humans.
anons a thought occurs. the only reason (you) are able to do the weird route is because Susie carted off ralsei for their little date. which is funny since Susie and Kris are going to probably be our final obstacles to end the game.
>>737551401Here's my thought: kill yourself xitter tranny.
>>737513290i'm pretty sure i've seen the humanbro post on /utg/ mate. but sure accidently call him /v/ culture thats entertaining
>>737551087This but with Clover.
explain to me how kris isn't a dude?
>>737530604Provided he doesn't apologize afterwards, that would make Sans based as hell.
>>737551553Actual and genuine Charafags have posted on /utg/ for years now, not even humanfags. There have been both a male and female Charafag since before Deltarune released. Humanfags in general always existed in this site since 2015.
>>737530604This would never happen in the UT/DR world where transphobia and homophobia doesn't exist.
>>737540382>USAids: A psychological condition defined by a compulsion to obsess over niggers and inject them into public discourse whenever possible.
>>737549125This but all Frisks and all humans.
>>737551478aw thank you anon! I hope you have a good day too
>>737547315Each chapter is a little shorter than Undertale in length, if the game didn't escalate until ch5, it'd feel pretty slowI don't think it's perfect, this project is much more ambitious and harder to pull off than Undertale was
>>737551401I feel like that was obvious. The weird route can only happen when we're alone with Noelle.
>>737537206I don't feel like that's the case when Black Knife was composed in 2018. I think the Mantle was always supposed to make you help fight the Knight even if it seems to only be Seam’s weird item.>>737535787Gerson only gives you one piece of equipment, but you're right that the Shadow Mantle and the Black Shard compliments each other.
>>737552057Did u die doe?
>>737552346I mean in the context of how Noelle is our in for continuing the weird route 4 chapter 4 despite Kris telling the doe to keep her mouth shut. Same way Susie is our in to begin the route. Thirdly Ralsei and Kris seems intent to keep the player and Noelle apart from each other for some reason.
>>737552869We can also only continue the weird route in 4 when Kris and Noelle are once again alone. There definitely seems to be some weird fuckery in those two being together.
>>737539054>You will marry and have kids with the silly christmas deer and you will be happyLiteral angel behavior
>>737507996Why does she look like a boss from Bloodborne
Toby's worst betrayal so far was having no real payoff to How to Draw Dragons.
>>737553107Chapter 3's Dark World was honestly disappointing with how little it adapted the dreemurr house
>>737553107>Susie teleports behind kris to confront him
>>737553175Didn't explore the TV theming too much, didn't explore the house either despite overtly stating those other areas exist.
>>737552949well Kris is our vessel, for the time being, do to all this stuff so yeah of course they'd be there...third wheeling.
>>737553107The payoff was having a dragon drawing on Dess's room for some reason. Take this and Tenna's remark about her watching the bikini alligators on MTV and come to your conclusions.
>>737553273Only real taste we got of that was the hymn book that gives you the ticket to nowhere.That one Shuttah says the old Dremurr house dark world got by papered over by Tenna's studio, so maybe we'll see it in a future chapter now that he's gone? Though realistically, the game doesn't really have time for that anymore.
>>737553596The culimination to everyone being attracted to Susie will be that Dess is also into her.
>>737553719Unless we get a full town Dark World, I can't see us returning to the dreemurr house, like you said there's no time, unless it's a very extreme short section.
>>737550929I wasn't sure who talked about this topic but I think Toby mentioned that people generally don't like puzzles, which I would agree but this decision does alienate people that want more substance out of their games. It does feel like he gave up, and only kept acts as means to either deliver microgames, or retain the act/spare system so we can get recruits
>>737553107There has been many letdowns between lots of features teased in ch1/2, hard mode for Undertale, no dog boss for Undertale, Undertale's 10th anniversary message being to make more fangames so he doesn't have to make content and his overall decisions with developing Deltarune
>>737554054Toby said in the chapter 1 stream that the fight and spare system in Deltarune was vestigial from Undertale as Deltarune was supposed to be an action game, so that's probably why he changed the way mercy works to act more like an action game rather than a puzzle.
>>737539753I want everyone to be dead wayyyy before that in the Weird Route. I don't want a single hint of hope.
>>737537124>Items that give elemental resistances are always connected to the boss associated with said elemental pair.muh patternsThis applies to Spamton and nobody else. The Jevilstail doesn't resist anything and there is no defensive/equipment item in Chapter 4. Spamton's items in Chapter 2 and the Shadow Mantle are the only equipment that give elemental resistance in the game.The Knight is also not the only Dark/Star boss, the Titan and Titan Spawn share that element. Just like Spamton isn't the only Puppet/Cat boss.
>>737553375I'm certain that we need both of them to do something truly evil and fate altering before we use them up.
>>737551580Based human enjoyer.
>>737553175Because CH7 fountain will be at the dreemurr house and it will parallel undertale
>>737556352Thanks :)
Built for thighjobs
>>737557709I feel like Chapter 7 has to be the world itself as the Dark World since the Roaring will totally happen in it because of the prophecy.
>>737501125I thought this pic was the blue guy on his knees and some other guy with his penis pointing towards him, indicating imminent sex.
>>737507438fair enough
>>737558943She still looks like the grinch, but would.
>>737558076>Kris>Noelle>RalseiWho has the best thighs to squeeze Susie's fat lizard tail?
LOL!
>>737558076but anon kris is a boye THATS GAY
>>737559025as much as it pains be to say it Noelle due to being on track. kris meanwhile is a fat chud and ralsei is a fraud
>>737559267Lesbian pedophile!!
>>737550929Chapter 1 really sticks out with the lack of ACT gimmicks. Only the basic mash Z for the dust rabbit and the aim minigame for K Round. All other are UT style "chat with the enemy until it gives up" ACTs, even for bosses.It's also insane how much the recruit system mirrors the genocide route, more than the weird route in some ways.It's just repeating a thing until you reach an arbitrary number, for the sake of getting a little more content out of the game. The Mercy bar is just another HP bar. In ch. 2 Trashy even shows up before the Queen fight to warn you to check the recruits if you didn't get everyone, the exact same thing Chara does in UT.
>>737560194>It's also insane how much the recruit system mirrors the genocide route
>>737552312I don't like this argument. UT is small but is also very dense with content. It has 14 full boss battles, chapter 2 has only 8 and it has the most of all chapters.
>>737558076Kris is a girl so that's STRAIGHT.https://files.catbox.moe/tmm4ch.png
>>737552312>>737560431Toby said in an interview that he views current Deltarune as two and a half Undertales btw.
>>737560194Sadly I feel like the parallels are probably unintentional. I think Toby's just scared of failing at his people pleasing mission so he makes absoute sure you won't miss a recruit if you're going for all of them. Aside from the tiny car in Chapter 2 and Starwalker. Those two you can miss very easily
>>737559267Straight pedophile.
>>737560521Makes sense with the pricing at 25 dollars I guess. Though I will say the implication that if he released every chapter at once he would have priced the game at 40+ dollars is nuts.
>>737560571>his people pleasing missionThere is a long list of ways he failed to cater to the fans. About half of those are probably on purpose; and/or could have simply not been done so the "muh vision" excuse doesn't apply.
>>737553107>cant see the cactus>nothing in kris's room>the only guy that loves kris (the concept of a darkner that lived with a lightner since it was born) is ridiculed>the only thing that loves kris is hidden from view>no dragon>its a zelda clone most of the time>no weird route>no mikeToby fumbled. Just slap SWORD+roaring knight fight on any fan prediction and it would've been more enjoyable.
>>737561526there is a non-zero chance that we will unironically never see dess, and she will only be a silhouette or grossly warped personification of her
>>737561526>upper right>shadowed face>eyes still visibleFucking love that look. And yes I know it makes no sense, blow me.
>>737561806Careful, someone will call you a Mikefag this way!
>>737561947Same, it's as shocking as it is sovlful
>>737561895We saw both Asriel and Chara, arguably Gaster too, in Undertale. There's no way we don't see Dess.
So who's the knight?
>>737563024..........Mike..........................
>>737563024Dess, but she's basically some kind of spirit dust floating inside the knight armor, like the Thousand Sons.
>>737563024Carol.
>>737525078So many nice girls in these games, and yet when it comes to the goat boys, I wanna rub the sticks and stones together with them and get a fire going so goddamn bad…
>>737563024Dess's body with Kris's soul.
>>737561526
>>737560194There's also a contract list and a fountain that tells you the amount of recruits missing in Chapters 3 and 4, and Toby said each chapter would have a warning, but it is strange that it mirrors genocide more than Snowgrave. Toby obviously isn't making recruiting a bad thing since it only has positive impact so far, so maybe the message is that grinding is okay when it involves friendship or not killing. I think the amount of recruits affects your "love" for Castle Town according to the faded Ruddin, so maybe having all recruits will max your love for it and thus make Castle Town a super strong safe haven
>>737553841Final act is needing to stop Dess from travelling back in time to Doelest Susie as well.
>>737564430That would make Deltarune the game of the century.
>>737563024Asriel.
>>737563024Papyrus.
>>737559267It's insane how molestable Kris isdistilled rape bait in its purest form
>>737565194Dess...
>>737564385Ralsei wants to manifest the "Power of Friendship" in CastleTown so he can use it to counter the Fate Power of the Prophecy
Humans are for humans only Monsters shouldn't be lusting over humans. that's DISGUSTING!
>>737565194Is that pic really in the game? There's canon 'Kris is a dog' stuff? I thought it was just /v/ autism and fan art.
>>737565194I wonder if something Dess did to Kris made them gain a weird want to be a dog.
>>737565521>Dess comes over to babysit a very young Kris>Dess is completely shit at it and doesn't know how to leave Kris alone when she needs to make dinner/take a shower/use the bathroom/whatever>decides to put infant Kris in a large dog kennel>puppy fetish seed planted
Who is more raped?
>>737565452That animation is fan-made but the sprite is real
>>737565452This and the dog costume are both canon, yes. Otherwise people would just draw Kris as a goat.
>>737565831Huh. Definitely gives it some credibility. Hopefully it's a thing in the next chapter.
>>737565323Castle Town will become a giant mecha that we will pilot which is why it's filled with soul imagery.
>>737563024Rudy
>>737516119Tumblr creatures
>>737565825Kris.
>>737565935Where does the dog costume show up? I think the only art i've seen of it makes it look like it's part of the 'Susie in monster costume' bit for the wreck the city minigame.
Built to be played like bongos
>>737509246This, but it spamton holding a "Tenna eats pipis the long way" sign.
humanfags are really giving doetards a run for their money for being insufferable retards but they'll never be able to top gotepedos
>>737566225Tenna fight during the part where you beat him and his screen flashes between the sets, when in the Susiezilla set Kris is wearing that costume and Ralsei a bunny costume.
>>737566609
>>737566775Dess would literally never miss the opportunity to groom children. Fake.
>>737501125https://youtu.be/TX6iq79lJSU?si=3P-wxm5X_bLlhOUfAnd we just keep waiting and we just keep waiting and we just keep waiting, and waiting and waiting amd waiting, and waiting....Never ending waiting waiting waiting...Deltarune is waiting....
>>737566709That's why I didn't remember it, because it was during the Tenna fight and not the first time you're in the Susiezilla part. Thanks, anon.
>>737566609>>737566775Kris, for the love of the ANGEL you have to move on
>>737557749Humanbros stronger together. >>737565437This but human women and they need to be lusting for human player men.>>737566520Humanbros and doebros are both based.
>>737563024Dess's body resurrected by darkness (Determination) just like Flowey from Undertale.
>>737565825Kris because Noelle enjoyed it.
>>737562732nobody cares about the beta, including toby
>>737565825RAPE FACT CHECKThe situation could have been avoided if Noelle wasn't so eager to invite Kris to her room ALONE, but she really wanted that, even when Kris literally told her to not talk about it lmaoSTILL, Kris could have told her more details of why they can't be alone
>>737566395Suddenly i feel very sick...
>>737568151Noelle
>>737567828Toby loves Undertale, here's your (you). Plus it's not relevant to my point that Toby won't keep her design hidden as he doesn't work like that>>737568235I want human nurses to take care of me. Same.
I feel like there aren't as many predictions/takes for chapter 5 during its wait as there were for ch 3 and 4, which is disappointing because it's really fun to design darkners.
>Making Kris fuck Noelle was just a test drive >Will force him to fuck even more monsters from here.
>>737569069sniiiiiffffffffff
>>737568974I think people might feel burned from 3 and 4 being nothing like what people predicted. I wish more people drew the flower darkners myself.
>>737563024Noelle
these threads always go ultra faggot mode when it's radio silence from toby
>>737569589Including metaposts that don't add anything to a thread.
>>737505334>Deltarune Chapter 5 opening be like
>>737569646I already contributed to this thread by speculating on Toby being influenced by Mulholland Drive, though!
>>737563024The knight is its own character. There is zero reason to believe that it is someone under a helmet.
>>737569765Oh damn. Well, I contributed by arguing with you about it before. Small world.
>>737569646wdym posts like these play a vital role in speeding up the death of these threads
>>737566520humanpedos can try but they can never reach their old "heights"
>>737570142Someone will just make another thread once this one is gone and the process will keep going, despite everything people are too determined to let go and refuse to stop posting, you and me included. Even jannies deleting threads doesn't stop it. People will continue to make posts about things you don't like. But I do hope we get news, threads have been way too samey.
>>737570279Charafags are different from us humanbros. Our love is shared between Frisk and Chara rather than one which stops us from producing these art pieces.
>>737559267Why does Dess have a bulge
>>737570279It's literally just one guy, charafag. Here's a filter to hide (most) of his post, if you see a new image from him just go on the dropdown menu -> filter -> image md5 and it automatically adds it to your filter. (Requires 4ChanX or 4chanXT)https://u.pone.rs/kgnmrfrq.txt
>>737565452Nigga he’s a straight up furfag who wants Susie and Noelle to do puppy play with him
>>737501125Deltarune is trash for pedophiles.
>>737570962
>>737570881>The schizo is finally filtering humanbrosMaybe this will make you shit the thread less, but I doubt it.
>>737571236this filter has been around for more than a year, tourist
I want Kris to love us so badly....
>>737571314Damn, you've been trying to filter humanbros for over a year and yet you're still mindbroken about us to bitch in every thread? Kinda pathetic.
charafag does realize everyone can tell he's the only one right
>>737570279This poster would later go on to become a doefag
>>737571390Thankfully my human wives already love me, but I wish you luck in taming this tsundere freak.
>>737570881oh come on anon there’s at least…. two (2) human posters here plus the femkris spammer that’s gotta count for something! but in all seriousness yes it’s incredibly obvious that most of humanfags here fucked off, yes it’s blatantly just a handful of guys posting in these threads trying to appear more prevalent, BUT HOLY FUCK you actively more obnoxious than could ever be and make be want to side with the wank offs out of spite
>>737571314THEN WHY THE FUCK DO YOU KEEP RANTING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT DOESN’T AFFECT YOU
>>737570881now you make me want to spam his images just to piss you off
>>737570962SO TRUE but the doe is asking for it thoughbeit
>>737572238I don't think most of the present humanfags try to appear as more prevalent than they are, we just make fun of there only being one with jokes like the humanfag collective. I feel like it's mostly human haters that exaggerate how prevalent we are by saying we're the only reason there's threads. Outside of me I only believe there's other 3 humanbros, at best 4, and some aren't that prevalent.
>>737572448A lot of the images in his filter haven't been posted in a literal year or just posted once, lol.https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/KYcoIdWxmPG3h0Mr3ylsDg/
>>737572716>Butthurt he was called a shartyniggerOh no no no...
>>737572967>calls everything pixivslop and pedophiles, plus already said he hates Undertale several timesIf the shoe fits...
>>737572554mate half the reason why me and “a lot” of other people egg you guys are is due to the fact that there are noticeable chunks of these threads where it’s just you and one other guy jerk each other off about how much you LOVE your loli wives. you act like goatfags to people who don’t use /vg/ specifically because they hate goatfags. also the FemKrisfag is a pretentious retard who acts like his idiotic headcanon is all but confirmed and just never shuts up when active.
>>737570962well that explains why /v/ likes it
>>737573478I participate in a lot of theory posting myself, even with human images sometimes. Usually when I post with my humanbro is when the thread is dead and the thread would've died otherwise. I don't see how much different it is to people lusting over Susie and the does.I don't mind the FemKrisbros because they usually like us humanbros and their attitude isn't that much different from the average theoryfag, but I can see how it can be annoying since I think it's never happening. People need to have more fun when theorizing.
this suckslet's go back to the translation discussion
>>737571585yeah and everyone knows you’re the only one bitching about him. what about it.
>>737571585Every post ITT has been made by the humanfag hivemind, yes.>>737572460The answer is always humans btw.>>737573784Toby loves nippon and hates the latinx, brown people lost and the drama is super dead now. Toby will continue to make jp exclusive merch.
>>737573848Unironically enough I don't think there’s an actual Charafag in these threads, or at least he doesn't post much.
can we PLEASE stop talking about pseudo-thread personalities
>>737574064i mean i've seen one guy who'll post chara focused smut art. mostly just to bitch about the humanfag(s) or their schizo but you know...
>>737574064I only post Chara when she's relevant to the discussion.
>>737574078I don't even know why I even browse these threads the only real discussion happens when a new chapter drops or Toby posts a newsletter
>>737563024St. Nerona Imu
>>737574286>chara focused smutDo you have any examples?Just for the sake of discussion, of course.
>>737569941
>>737574078It's not that bad, at least the thread is close to bump limit this time. How long does everyone think the festival will be? How many rides will be in it? Part of me expects the festival to be very small and disappointing to contrast the Dark Worlds being super big and wonderful. >>737574286That's the tsundere Charafag who can't decide if he likes to humanpost or not. I think he's a male Friskfag so he's probably an actual Charafag.
>>7375692753 and 4 overtly mocking some common expectations and the very concept of theory crafting doesn't help.And I'm not only talking about that one thing you're thinking.
>>737574354I only try to add humans to my post when they're relevant or to waifupost with my humanbros. You should join us desu but it's fine if you don't. There's just not much to even do in these threads anymore.
>>737574704So what is the example that you're talking about outside of Mike?
>>737569730This is too edgy and Susie looks real goofy here for some reason.
Carol knight or Dess knight?
>>737574367Stockholm syndrome like everyone in these threads. People will talk about how they suck but be here daily to post.
>>737575163Dess Knight, because she is evil Susie
>>737575163Dess Knight, but Carol is a partner in crime and would help kill people, bury bodies, lure people into traps for the Knight to kill, and so on.
>>737574915That whole bit about Catti not being in the church, Ralsei's hat gone forever, no Papyrus, no Onionsan, Green dinosaur and chocolate quiz questions, Kris beating up the soul, from the top of my mind.
>>737575163I feel sorry for Mayor Knights from the pre 3 and 4 era as nobody likes their candidate now despite getting actual evidence in favor of their theory.
>>737574429nta but i do have some images i have during "the glory days" but i do understand the resentment towards the humanfags... while also being a humanfag. humanposting was notable different when these threads were a lot more lively. they were less of a pseudo-hugbox and more integrated with the rest of the thread also its extremely obvious that a lot of humanfags (like most other posters) sorta fucked off making the remaining posters.. extremely obvious. but eh now i'm just rambling hopefully we'll reach some sort of equilibrium when the wait is over and all the normals come crawling back
>>737574579the festival has been built up since chapter 4 so it has to be decently substantial
>>737575562I can see the rest but how is Kris’s beating up the soul mocking theory crafting?
>>737575163dess knight because the knight was already on the church and I can not see Carol posing on teenagers like the knight did during the chase sequence. I could see Susie's parallel dess doing that.
>>737575596some more pics before the thread deltashits itself
>>737575596NTA but a lot of your problems seem to not be the fault of humanfags or humanposting but just the fact there's no content and there's less posters in general. Technically if you joined us it would make the current humanfags more distinct and make it less of a hugbox. The main problem is there's not enough content to carry daily threads but they still keep being made anyways, so people use them to post. Like I said I usually try to actually add content and discussion to my posts even when posting humans. We shouldn't have more infighting.
>>737575745
>old prophecy teamKris, Dess, Asriel as the Prince of the DarkDess and Asriel were the veterans and Kris tagged alongThe girl is Noelle, Dess is the monster hero.>new prophecy teamKris, Susie, RalseiKris is the veteran, Ralsei is Kris's servantThe girl is Susie, Noelle is supposed to be the monster hero.
>>737575745I can join in the lewd humanposting.
>>737576118
>>737576129>monster herofake news, ralsei made it upthe actual prophecy makes no mention of one of the heroes also being a monster
WOAH DESS what a weird thing to do with a kid faha
>>737575662It's a bit adjacent, but that almost bluntly saying "Kris isn't you, your will isn't his, shut the fuck up" as an angry response to the "Chara did geno" people.
>>737576238
>>737576534Lewd.
>>737576274>dess is responsible for the susiebowl
idk why i have this
>>737576314I don't think that's the case at all, I don't think Toby was seething that people thought his waifu is evil. Kris beating us up for raping Noelle is a valid reaction.
Dess playing the red rocket game with Kris!
Kris's gigantic boobs.
>>737575619Since Chapter 2, and I agree. I meant that it won’t look super good and the rides will be small and cheap compared to Cyber World.
>>737574807I am struggling to think up topics. One I find interesting is the situation with Kris' soul, whether the soul we take control of is his, sort of like with Frisk in UT or if his soul is MIA and the one we control is a foreign one. How that ties to Gaster and his plans as well as the second voice. But the thread is almost over so meh.I am a proud Kris hater, so I can't join your cause as a matter of principle. Frisk is alright though
>>737576129There's no monster hero, at best there's 2 girls.
>>737576663
>>737577035nta, but i think Toby might have made the message of you controlling Kris more direct because of the misunderstanding with Chara
>>737576983>>737577127>>737577229Yeah, the thread is quickly dying. To be faur humanposting doesn't need to involve Kris, I mainly focus on Frisk/Chara, for example. So you could still join us. About the soul, I think Kris's soul is on the Knight and our SOUL is literally us or the Vessel's soul. And yeah, threads dying so it's too late for discussion.
>>737574524That does not 100% mean that the knight is someone else under the helmet. The weird wording of "helmet begins to come off" instead of "takes the helmet off" could imply so many different things.
>>737577424
>>737577546That's possible, but I think it's a logical follow up to the "Frisk" name reveal by focusing on that at the very start.
>>737577776
>>737578001
>>737563024The Demon Heart
