Per the title, is there a more misleading intro for a game than pic related?Since I haven't played a Persona game before, the intro has you think you'll actually be leading some shady group of kids doing questionable things for a greater good.
>>737503000You mean the anime opening song? The game is about a shady group of kids doing questionable things for a greater good, just it's written so poorly, anything questionable they decide to do is glossed over in favor of characterizing their targets as cartoonishly evil.
That's completely true....
>>737503195That's Persona for ya
>>737503195>You mean the anime opening song?Yeah, I was expecting a much darker tone, especially the shot of the three girls at the computer makes them look much more mature, composed, and mean-spirited (yes, I know it was made back when Haru had a completely different personality).
>>737503523>back when Haru had a completely different personalityqrd?
>>737503195>cartoonishly evil.None of the characters are cartoonishly evil. All of the shit that they do has been done by humans on earth before. you're a moron.
>>737504215Remember those few battle banters she has that come out of the left field and seem to suggest she's a sadist? Those are the remnants of her original concept, where she was very much a domineering bitch.
>>737504390>>737504215>cont.The twist to her story was supposed to be that she hated "Joker" but had a crush on the "real life" version of the MC.
>>737503523It's a shame they didn't stick with that. Haru in the final product is a nothing character.
>>737504654She improves a lot with the final chapter in Royal where the sadistic streak is let loose on Akechi.Choice comments such as her swearing if he tries any funny business she'll bury her hatchet in his spine and drag his paraphlegic ass out into a convenient open spot for passing shadows to finish off.And Strikers tops it off by giving her road rage and unchaining her inner speed demon.
>>737503000You literally form a criminal enterprise. And your actions are absolutely questionable, as you realize getting farther into the game.
>>737504390>>737504443Ah, no wonder it felt like her arc was empty. It was removed from the game.
>>737503195>characterizing their targets as cartoonishly evil.Isn’t literally every P5 villain based on a real life scumbag in Japan.Hell even the subway slammer in the mobile game was made because subway pushers are a genuine epidemic in Japan.
>>737503523>>737504390>>737504443The whole game seems to have had a femdom subtext that barely made it into the final product
>>737507418Morgana used to be a latex gimp suit creature now that I think about it
>>737507418The artificial Yaldy in Strikers is also a lady come to think of it.
>>737507375What doesn't make any sense is that the game implies that everyone can be redeemed through Jungian self-actualization
>>737507418Yeah, it's obvious from the various costumes the girls wear, they're all some flavour of BDSM.
>>737504334Cartoonishly evil as in the audience has an easy time agreeing that the protagonists should stop them. Kamoshida beat and fucked kids. Every major palace boss, except Futaba, was established as so evil, anyone playing the game would side against them.
>>737507552No, it implies that everyone has the potential to reach actualization and that by connecting with other people you realize this potential. It rather implies the opposite of everyone achieving this, that it is actually very difficult, a true struggle, but one worth pursuing
Which is true. You break people's minds against their wills.
>>737507603The actual villain of the game is the sloth of society, knowing that such evil exists and turning a blind eye because it's inconvenient. All of those cartoonish villains are based on real scandals, and the point of it isn't to get the audience to rally against them, although that is a side benefit. Its that that's how it is in the real world. There really are people as scummy as Kamoshida and Shido running around doing their thing right now and people are just looking the other way.
>>737507473>>737507531-The art in the tarot cards-Ann has a dominatrix costume, a whip, and loves femme fatale characters-Makoto's codename is Queen, that's how the Japanese call dommes-Kawakami is supposed to be the gap mow mean maid-Sae is the whole dominant authority figure gimmic-The lolis are the wardens and the MC a prisoner -The occasional references to BDSM in the dialogue I can't remember more
>>737504215Press releases from up to a year before the game came out had a very different description of her character
>>737507661And turn them into better people. There are never any negative consequences to this. The gang never gets it wrong. The game would have some teeth if they actually ended up getting into sketchy territory and changing the hearts of people who may or may not have deserved it or if there were ever unintended consequences for their actions. The "fake out" doesn't really count because it wasn't really them at fault for Okumura.
>>737511483The game should've been a proper, non-linear RPG with choices and consequences, but Japanese developers are literally incapable of making those.
>>737503000Doom from the concept of Japs writing about rebellion. A simple, 'do not pass go' formula.
>>737511908That would only make Persona worse
>>737513294At minimum it would make it interesting. Imagine the reaction of your average Japanese player if the characters could actually fuck up and FAIL.
>>737513328>if the characters could actually fuck up and FAILWouldn't that go against Persona's appeal and fantasy?
>>737504215Makoto and Haru and Hifumi were originally supposed to be two characters but at some point got split into three. Noir was a violent sadist and Queen was a chuuni shogi pro, both party members. At some point hifumi was split out of the shogi player and Queen became Makoto and picked up some of the femdom elements of Noir, and then Haru just kinda became an empty shell of a character.My personal belief is that they realized that due to their idiotic way of dripfeeding the plot Haru doesnt exist for three quarters of the game and all of her characterization wouldnt fit in the ~20 free time slots that she exists for prior to the end of the game.
