What do you want from the next Sonic game
>>737508776Nothing, I don't want any more Sonic games.
Amy Rose sex
>>737508776Accurate physics and good writing and characterization
Chao Garden
tails get ipad
>>737508776I want flash to be a thing again and I wanna play someone's Tails yaoi simulator.I'm just really in the mood to have gay sex with tails rn.
>What do you want from the next Sonic game> >>737508905: I don't want a Sonic game.
>>737509062yeah nah nigga
>>737508776For that image to be turned into a full game with that exact art style and setting
>>737509110He never asked whether I think Sonic Team could do it (they can't), that's just what I want
>>737508776Mania 2 or I continue to ignore the existence of Sonic games
>>737509257God damn zoomer.
>>737508776An evolution of Frontier's open zone with a more coherent open space to traverse. I understand to an extent why they did what they did with regards to the environment, but frankly, it still looks bad. Having a place that feels like a proper, real area in the Sonic world that's open to explore and do levels in sounds amazing. Expand on the parkour elements a bit, make wall-running not the weird shit it was in the Open Zone, give the player the drop dash from the start, and it'll be great. If one thing seems to be relatively true, it's that SEGA was listening very attentively to Frontiers' criticism and addressing it, so I'm hopeful they take what's given, and what they've learned, and make whatever comes after Frontiers even better.
>>737509656cry more pedophile
>>737509718Well, I just really liked reading the furry bombs, and I don't take the "canonical age" they once listed for the characters seriously. I don't read IDW because it's shit, but I'm sure that crap takes their ages super seriously.
>>737509865IDW is on a redemption arc for itself and is kino again but keep coping pedotard
>>737509865diddy blud
If 3D, tighter level design, SA1 Spindash, varied and interesting biomes, and a good ranking system with rewards attached to A/S Ranks.If 2D, Mania 2 with more original zones.
>>737508776>Shadow main campaign. no i don't want a 7 minute slop like shadow in forces. in wand a full fledged campaign with a real story>wider levels. i am sick of hall way runner slop with boost shit. sonic unleashed was a mistake. make levels wider and higher, as well as longer. sonic farces was so easy a babby could finish it before lunch>drop the classic sonic garbage (i think they already did)>drop 2d segments. they are not good.>bring back picrel
>>737509696What I want is more personalized-looking environments too. I can't say I was a fan of a lot of Final Horizon's challenge areas since most of them were unfun and abstract platforming puzzles that focused more on trying to be tough than enjoyable, but what really made them suck was just how blatantly low budget they all looked. The closest thing I can think of is ReCore of all fucking games, with its platforming assets randomly floating in the air for the player to traverse until something happens. It's just sloppy and if Frontiers was made during the AI astroturfing phase, it would be easy to say it looked like Sega just told Groknic to generate some level design segments. Final Horizon is so ugly and bad, just everything they dumped on the island clashes with the island aesthetic as well as the characters themselves to the point it looks like a fan game using basic Unreal assets with no changes or something. Shadow Gens was much better, the hub is a playground though so it mostly just relies on the power up gimmicks so it would be nicer to see something like that but as a level instead.
>>737510325Base->bring back picrelYou lost.
>>737508776I just want a 3D Sonic game where Sonic feels good to control. Frontiers and Shadow Generations were a step in the right direction, but they still couldn't replicate SA2's controls.
>>737509920I don't even talk about IDW compared to something that came before. I hate comic and canonfaggotry in all forms with Sonic. You're a different breed of fans who have almost nothing to do with the games.>>737509921Nah, fuck zoomers. You guys have missing bone structure around the prefrontal cortex, and you lack some fundamental understanding of your surroundings. The antagonism does nothing good for the series or its fandom. People who played Babysitting cream when they were 15 year old are often dads today, and I don't think they're maltreating their children. Come off it you dumb fucks. Tails isn't 12. The pages where Shadow fucks him in the ass in Furry Bomb #4 almost made me gay, and it's still a pretty good fap. That's all!
>>737510551>noooo don't have fun your way, nooo it has to be my way nooooooobeat it, bozo
>>737508776Blaze the Cat
>>737510462Yeah, essentially my thought as well. I'm hoping that they continue to learn and evolve. Maybe even let us play as the others again. Granted, they're god awful in combat, which is a real shame, but just getting to see and feel how they control again is already a huge plus; it's been years. I'm excited and hopeful regardless.
>>737508776A 3D game where Sonic isn't the only playable character
>>737508905In my book what Pontac & Graff did for writing/characterization is better than what Ian Flynn is doing.You probably disagree but I just wanna stress that, because there's no unanimous consensus that Ian Flynn's Sonic is a good one. The IDW style of writing also don't reflect the games or their canon properly.As far as I'm concerned good writing/characterization is what we got in SA1, SA2, Sonic 06 (for the most part), Secret Rings and Black Knight, and Sonic Colors as far as Sonic himself goes.As for Amy, I only think she's the "same" character in SA1/2/06/Unleashed and Sonic Rush. I don't like what the westoid writers have done to her, and Boom canon is a seperate character roster, which was fine in its own right.
I want more Hot Chick Heaven. Preferrably of the playable variety.
>>737508776Sonic Team to be fired and Taxman + Stealth to become the new Sonic Team, along with Kart Krew (with some tardwrangling)
>>737511860Cute Wolf, Bug, and Lemur
>>737511874how come sonic team jr and whitehead know more about sonic games appeal than sonic team?
>>737508905I want Sonic to actually be a shithead punk again who likes his friends but isn't afraid with messing with them, and is constantly throwing himself into the craziest situations on his own whim rather than being forced into them constantly.I want Eggman to be the villain and to actually be fucking competent. No new antagonist taking the spotlight until the very end. No Eldritch Monster number 352 going out of his control. No creation of his suddenly taking over. I want Eggman in a giant fucking mech that is truly at risk of taking over the world. Also I want to see those two little faggot robots of his get turned to scrap and never used ever again.Adventure gameplay. Boostshit is fucking BORING. It's been done to death. Shadow Generations is obviously the last time they are going to make that work. There is NOTHING new or creative you can do with it now while Adventure gameplay has only 2-3 iterations and wasn't nearly explored well enough. Classic would also be fine but it's also been done to death.A new aesthetic. Ever since Sonic Unleashed, Sonic has looked boring and completely uninspiring. No crazy and fun vistas. No abstract worlds. No gritty but colorful worlds like Adventure 1 and 2. It's just uninspiring bullshit that doesn't say anything. Hire an actual artist to revamp the design of the aesthetic while maintaining the core aspects of the characters involved.
>>737512013quality post
>>737508905>Accurate physics and zero storyExactly.
>>737511061I haven't looked at Frontier at all, but I agree that the Adventure games and the Story book games were some of the best characterization the series has had. They're actual characters with growth and beliefs that they fight for even to the detriment of others, rather than endless quip machines. Even if Sonic Team wanted to make a more coherent game again, I don't think they could achieve the harmony between the writers, artists, and programmers that was required to make something like Adventure 2 (something that they lost immediately with Heroes)>>737512013I agree that boost gameplay doesn't lead to good Sonic games. Boosting is based on a misguided notion that Sonic games HAVE to be fast, because he's only about SPEED and nothing else, which is wrong. Speed was the reward for being good at the game, not a requirement. Adding boost to a Sonic game ruins the gameplay and the level design, forcing levels to be long, straight corridors because you're moving so fast that you can't turn properly, and so to have some semblance of gameplay they add those lane-switching buttons and now the game is just fucking Temple Run.>>737512354Characterization is different than story, even the classic 2D games have it. Though a story does provide a lot more opportunity for characters to exhibit their characterization, and Sonic games were once good at that too
>>737508776More Shadow
>>737508905Jesus Christ
>>737512456Adventure 1 is so good IMO. It actually feels like it's writing for something that's not a Sonic game, applied to, and fleshing out the Sonic characters for the very first time. Akinori Nishiyama was great, and it's a shame he quit and made Dimps instead of writing more games. The storybook games have the lore of the storybooks and characters repurposed as such, but they really brought Sonic's personality to life in those. They have some of my favorite in-gameplay dialogue exchanges, like Sharia being cautious and Sonic going "Omg, a barrel, let's go! WOHOO!" while you're running, which really characterizes him while he's doing his thing.
Without writing paragraph essays I’ll just post what I want.
>>737508776Sonic get Ipad and Eggman get vored by Giantess Bunny Woman.
>>737512796>He wants to buy a new version of games he already playedJUST. PLAY THEM, THEN!
>>737510643>You're a different breed of fans who have almost nothing to do with the games.Says the guy posting porn screenshots. The lack of self awareness in you niglennials continues to amaze.
>>737513220I absolutely love the games, just about all of them (except Lost World). Now get out of my hair stupid party pooper.
>>737512013>Ever since Sonic Unleashed, Sonic has looked boring and completely uninspiring. No crazy and fun vistas. Unleashed had some of the most beautiful levels in the whole franchise
>>737511061>In my book what Pontac & Graff did for writing/characterization is better than what Ian Flynn is doing.I stopped reading here. Ian Flynn, Pontac, and Graff all suck ass
>>737508776Adventure vibes, aesthetics and gameplay + open world / zone
>>737508776Mania 2 with Advance 3's character pairing system
>>737508776Spark 4
>>737508776tricks were cool, they should return
>>737508776A game about Sonic's ancestry or his parents. It's weird that it's never brought up in anything but the Archie comics, which are not canon.
>>737513350>I absolutely love the games, just about all of themNow hold on. I'm not that guy but that raises some red flags for me. You don't have any gripes with any of the games despite how radically the series has changed and how mismanaged it's been over the years? Now I also think you're just a gooner who's happy as long as you can look at some blurry hedgehog ass while you boost down a straight corridor
>>737513465They do. But they don't stink as much as Ian Flynn's "fanon" ass writing.
I would take buckets of nigger cum in my ass to get a Sonic Battle remake.
>>737515524Maekawa > Imada > Nishiyama > Yoshimura > Power Gap > Shit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ian Flynn = Pontaff
>>737515494>Now hold on. I'm not that guy but that raises some red flags for me. You don't have any gripes with any of the games despite how radically the series has changed and how mismanaged it's been over the years? Now I also think you're just a gooner who's happy as long as you can look at some blurry hedgehog ass while you boost down a straight corridorNope. What I love in particular about Sonic is that it never stopped being different. I love the Fail era of Sonic 06 to Unleashed, where the games started being genuinely terrible, but they had all this MTV style rock music, and a real "feeling" about them. I liked the first 3D games for just being good at maturing Sonic, until they over-matured him in 06 because they got confused about what to do with graphics becoming realistic and "Sonic". I like the Sanic era because back then in order to get approval as a Sonic fanboy you had to admit that the franchise was gay and cringe and the fans were weird and creepy, so the games starting to be self-ironic and 4th wall breaking made sense. Colors was good. Lost World sucked. Forces made my afternoon on a Wednesday in 2017 and that made me smile the rest of the week. (Relevant song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4W84mWqFZg) and then Frontiers was like "okay, Sonic is kinda good again!" even though I hate Open World, but like BotW I like Open World a bit more when it takes the core loop of the non-open-world levels and just replicates it to generate a level-based "flow" in the open world.Shadow Gens is just genuinely good, but I have issues with Ian Flynn's writing style and the clumsiness of its nostalgiawank narrative. But it's still good.In fact I'm just a bit concerned that Sonic is becoming too "normal" now. It was a franchise I had that I knew was an outsider like myself, always there "trying", while other franchises just did the expected thing. In a way that made Sonic games unique and you never just got a repeat of something that worked the first time.
>>737515742Out of scale: Toyoda
>>737515849I'm not familiar with his work, he wrote those Isekai Sonic Channel stories right?
>>737508861You can just not engage with em
>>737515742Maekawa is directly responsible for the disaster of 06 and almost butchered Adventure 2 earlier. He was great at writing Shadow, but couldn't handle larger stories where he had to juggle a larger character cast and multiple plot threads.
>>737515742For me it'sNishiyama > Maekawa > Yoji Ogawa > Yoshimura > Pontac > Ian FlynnDunno who the other ones are. A cute little fangirl did an interview with Maekawa not too long ago and he confirmed both that 06's entire dialogue was Yoshimura's (but he wrote the plot draft) and that Yoji Oogawa rewrote 50% of Secret Rings after Maekawa had done his, and then he had to rewrite bits and pieces, so a lot of Secret Rings is actually not Maekawa, although Black Knight was 100% Maekawa's. Also, I guess Iizuka did an OK job on Shadow. People dunk on it, but I think most of the characters felt like themselves at least, it's just the story of vindicating Gerald retroactively as a good guy was lame.
>>737515971Larger stories that are fully insane with Shonen and DBZ and timeline crap is exactly why I love Maekawa as a writer.SA2 wears sunglasses indoors. It's part of its whole appeal.
>>737508776For some reason the Frontiers Arcade Mode didn't include the islands minigamesIf they keep doing minigames (which they should) they should make them their own section to replay them any time you want + leaderboards
>>737515905He wrote basically everything Channel-related in general, including comics and old character bioshe also wrote the initial draft of Forces script before it was reworked by Pontaff
>>737515987>A cute little fangirl did an interview with Maekawa not too long agoEmi Jones?I forgot to rank Iizuka, regardless I did like his work on Shadow the Hedgehog after my second playthroughDidn't know that about Yoji Ogawa... Ironic considering Secret Rings is one of my favorite Sonic games
>>737508776Let Sonic Team writte the story themselvesKeep the western writters just as translators
I genuinely want Sonic Underground characters.Aleena, Sonia, Manic, Sleet, Dingo, the Oracle of Delphius, put as many of them as they can into it.
>>737515742>Maekawa > Imada > Nishiyama>Nishiyama > Maekawa > Izuka *FTFY
>>737516376Pretty much why I liked Pontac & Graff I think. Reading that the JP team got confused by Ian's dialogue and had to rework it for the JP actors because it sounded unreadable made me a bit :/I believe Ian is coming at the character from the wrong end. I think it was Maekawa who said that Sonic is a "fairy" in his stories. He's written to be undefeatable and OP, but he's also a fairy to another character in the story. He's someone that comes into this world, and whisks away when he's done inspring it with his awesomeness. That is basically how he helps Shadow in SA2, Elise in 06, Sharia in Secret Rings and Chip in Unleashed. And even in Pontac's games the JP writers wrote it where he's an aid to the aliens, or the inspiration for the avatar, and in Frontiers I felt like emphasis went away from Sonic and instead over to Eggman and the girl, but Sonic kinda doesn't have a moment where he changes the girl. It just has suddenly happened because she says so.The emphasis in previous games was where someone is struggling either against a bully or with self esteem, and then Sonic shows up and you observe his awesomeness, and the world becomes happier, through observing his actions. I felt like that emphasis was a bit muted in Frontiers when most of the game is just Sonic being next to his friends and mulling over some thoughts.
>>737511061>and Sonic ColorsEhhhhhhh
>what do you want in a new game?>STORY CHARACTERS STORY CHARACTERS STORY CHARACTERS STORY CHARACTERS STORY CHARACTERSJfc do sonicfags really care that little about actual gameplay? No wonder the games have all been slop for decades.
>>737515942i'm happily engaged to your mom
>>737517053They do but they mostly tap out of these conversations which have largely been taken over by mentally ill nintendo fanboys who don't like the series at all, and only periodically get things right where things are glaringly bad and annoying.Which currently is Ian Flynn's writing.
>>737517053Most Sonic fans don't actually play the game. They just watch it on Youtube and read the IDW Comics.
>>737508776Remake Sonic Adventure and update the hubs to be more interactive and have collectibles. I also would like a Big the Cat fishing game and a Espio spin off game that's like 2D Ninja Gaiden and Shinobi.
>>737517053We already know the gameplay will be dogshit, so no point speculating on that
>>737508776I want Amy to go around naked. If the guys do, it makes no sense for her not to.
>>737508776Character controller and level design that emphasizes leveraging gravity and momentum to navigate the course, a story that either does not preach to its audience of 11 year olds, does not waste time to make its point or gets out of the way, collectibles and bonus objectives that encourage exploration, chao garden, ian flynn beheaded in effigy (or in minecraft), and most importantly, my wife wave the swallow!
>>737517328You just described /sthg/ and shitterfags
>>737512013>It's been done to death.So has Adventure which is why it got replaced...
chao garden with pay to win gacha mechanics
>>737514004>incorporates influence from Spark 3 into FH>FH plays nothing like Spark in gameplay or level designBased...?>>737515379Probably the dumbest post in the entire thread.
>>737517912>So has Adventure which is why it got replaced...Actually it got replaced to appeal to non-fans who complained about gameplay variety not being core to the game's identity (this has literally been a thing since Sonic 3, and debatably sonic 2)
>>737515942I want the series to die rather than have to choose not to engage with the franchise. The world should have to conform to my desires, I've done enough compromising for others on my end.
>>737517670zased
>>737516802Ian wants Sonic to be too relatable and human and as a result he overcorrects and makes Sonic into a Zuckerberg tier human wannabe.
>>737508776The next Sonic game will 100% be an Open Zone game. How would you guys improve upon this format?
>>737518221>No gloves or shoes>Heart shaped chest patternDisgusting.
>>737508776I dunno anymore, man. I'd say >>737508905 in 3D but as if Sonic Team could ever fathom let alone deliver on such a premise.
>>737508776Sonic Dream Team 2 for consoles Same devs, same engine, new levels powerups, unlockable playable characters with unique abilities.
>>737508861>>737509462came to post this
>>737518126Understandable, have a nice day
>>737508776For Amy to be big and ditzy
>>737517053People have stopped arguing about gameplay because they know that Sonic Team is no longer capable of producing anything interesting in that regard. You also sound like you completely disregard the story in the games altogether "because they're Sonic games" which is equally as ignorant and gatekeeps you from enjoying much of what fans love about the series
>>737519307I enjoy SHC and SAGE for that reason but it feels like output has been waning over the past few years.Sonic fangames entering SAGE are vastly overshadowed in volume by indie opportunists.
>>737517139>My wife's sonlol
>>737518110Yeah sorry but a different jump move in classic is not comparable to completely different gameplay styles thrown in for padding. Fuck your "muh variety" reductionist garbage.
>>737513774I just want a 2D game with the modern designs…Advance and Rush were peak
>>737519307>You also sound like [headcanon]Nah I just know that there is as much chance of improved gameplay as there is for improved story. We got the archie meme man himself, the savior of western sonic, and he gave us references galore and "actually the chao were retardified versions of aliens and the emeralds came from space" which answered literally no questions despite frontiers being a lore game which is supposedly his expertise.
>>737515821Birboobies :3
>>737519968I'm fine with you having a problem with Sega Bass fishing in adventure, but if you're willingly pretending not to see the blatant throughline between Sonic 3 (& Knuckles) and Adventure, you're just being dishonest.
>>737517670Zased
>>737520157You're a complete retard. In mainline classic, all the games are speed platforming and every character can play the game normally. Starting with Adventure, there are specifically speed platforming levels and then everybody else's levels. I'm disappointed but not surprised that I need to explain this to you.
>>737520071If we also get a 3D Sonic with classic designs I'm good with this as long as the physics are carried over.
>>737518438More screentime for Sage!
>>737518071Speaking of Spark 3 has anyone played any other Sonic Clones? I played Freedom Planet and thought it was pretty good.https://youtu.be/1KrWrN2eEEY
>>737508905Thread should have ended here. If a 2D Sonic game doesn't allow you to do everything on the top section, it's not worth playing. Superstars should have never been released, Mania 2 should have been the game to focus on, and tell Stealth or whoever else to get over themselves and learn how deadlines and budgets work, alongside marketing. They weren't ready to play with the big boys.>>737517053As another anon said, they gave up on hoping the gameplay was good and focus on everything but the gameplay instead. This is why they also put so much stake into the movies.
>>737520275>Starting with Adventure, there are specifically speed platforming levels and then everybody else's levels.>Starting with Adventure>There are specifically speed platforming levels and then everyone else's levels
>>737520090So then why did you ask why people aren't talking about gameplay if you already knew the answer? Why are you here at all if you don't see the point in ruminating over any aspect of the games at all?
>>737511874Why are classicfags so schizopilled
>>737520275>In mainline classic, all the games are speed platformingStupid nigger. Try playing Sonic 1 for once in your life. You're really out here trying to argue that Marble Zone and Spring Yard Zone and Labyrinth Zone are levels about "speed platforming"
>>737519086Is there a site where this artist uploads their art or is just anonposting?
>>737508776Mania 2remember when it was revealed? the hype was real, almost brings a tear to my eyeshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98eoSTr8ipsit's already been a decade...
>>737520707ultra_aka_ross on X. But keep in mind this kinda post is rare for me, most a the time I'm just postin my progress on indie games on Steam.
>>737520708The last two times I've cried were when my grandmother died, and when Sonic Mania was revealed. No one thought that Sega actually had the balls to let the gaijin come in and make their game for them
>>737508776Bring back that SonicRemove Santiago forever
Sonic sucks. Let him die.
>>737520453I like FP1I love FP2
>>737520453Freedom Planet is kinoI consider it the king of sonic-likes
>>737520453If you can stand insects, try Isopod
>>737508776What I want is Sonic Robo Blast 2, but in 3D and polished with a lot of great levels with variety and actually good badniks that aren't spammed in the game.
>>737520654>you don't get it, taking some aspects of classic game design and cranking them up to extremes that no one asked for in order to introduce gameplay styles nobody wanted is actually what classic is all about3D Sonic fans are not Sonic fans.
>>737521414Where did I say that? What aspects of classic game design are being cranked up to extremes that no one asked for?
>>737521252Meh. I always have to turn on arachnophobia mode when I play games so that's a pass from me.
They recently referenced that style of drawing in the upcoming anniversary comic
>>737522274Because that's all they do, reference things.
Sonic x Freedom Planet
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>>737522579He's right, no substance, just MEMBA THIS?Enough to impress you, but not enough for people who want more from this IP.
>>737522579I don't mind references but they don't tickle nostalgia the way they should when all the franchise has been is references for years, doubly so when what few actually new things are almost always for the worse.
What's your favorite IDW Sonic moment, fellow gamers?
>>737522808I'd say 50/50For the cool shit we get like CrossWorlds and Blade of Courage, shit like the smurfs collab and weird SoA decisions that ruin the presentation of the franchise is bound to followAlso i think Flynn just soured the way everyone sees references in this series, you can't go seeing something from the past being aknowledged on recent stuff without thinking about him or someone mentioning him
I want it to be fun and have good music. I don't want combat sections, I don't want an open world, I want normal levels that are fun to run through and have multiple routes.If you're gonna bother with a story make it "action movie cool" and don't waste my time with drama.
>>737508776More of shadow gens or sonic mania formula.
I want them.to handle the next 2D Sonic game (preferably Modern), their work on Wonder Boy, SoR 4 and Shinobi is impressive
>>737521097Shut up Mario
>>737524108Mario is better
>>737523712Ian was in the right place, at the right time. Acknowledging older pieces of Sonic that SEGA refused to tickled people the right way. So much so, that they wanted him to write for the games not realizing that the games had way more problems than just having dumbed down plots starting with Colors. But those were always secondary fans who were only into the comics and cartoons and admitted it.
>>737508776I kmow i wont get it but i want picrel finally finished. I love the cheesy soul of that game sincerely. Realistically though, id want more of shadow gens or sonic mania.They perfected the 2d and 3d game design imo
>>737524647In a vacuum Ian is a solid choice, it only becomes a problem when he has his own fan agendas he decides to push. He wasn't even that bad with references at first but the more he got praised for it the more he did it.
>>737525030It's great on Xenia with restored animation and function patches. Better graphics too, because you can play it with the XBLA Demo shaders which are closer to the E3 2006 level of quality.
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>>737525058Yeah, and it ties into another problem I have with any IP that's around 30 years minimum: Being celebratory. When the only thing you can do is spin your wheels on your past entries or victories, you're becoming stagnant. If you're only leaning on callbacks instead of making a new game with its own elements, that's another problem. It's nice to see an IP surviving for so long but the people behind it can't forget that new games are needed to keep it healthy.Non-gaming elements shouldn't take priority over the games either.
>>737525678Shiro Maekawa said it best: I want someone to give a new spin on the characters, like we did going from the Genesis games to Modern Sonic.He came on, didn't like Genesis era Sonic, and the team made Modern Sonic and more "anime" Sonic stuff.They just need someone else to do a new rendition on Sonic, not as a spinoff, but the main Sonic, like DK Bananza (but more), where there is a new design, which looks weird at first and it creates debate, but surely over time, it has a fandom of its own, new and old, and the games have a slightly different tone and emphasis than the rest.Modern Sonic is played out, and the only way to keep going with it, is to be self-referential and celebratory, or have Ian Flynns writing fanon out of it. It's time to create something new.
>>737523359Super NEO Metal Sonic. Back when we thought the comic was going to be exciting instead of a bunch of OCs trauma dumping each other.
>>737525981>what we need is MORE division in the communityBased?
I just want S3K, but with new levels.That's it.
>>737527740>I want boring but with safeSounds safe and boring, but that's basically all that classicpedos want.
>>737508861You should kill yourself.
>>737508776-SA3 with the same aesthetic -Dating game-Slice of life game
>>737508946It was a pretty good tamagochi game.But it needs a full overhaul and much more content.
>>737528803>Classic fans want a tried and tested formulaShocking.
>>737510643Who care what you think.I love Mobian girls and I can't have enough of em'
>>737511860Basado.
>>737512013SatAM truly nailed the true sonic world.Shame it get sacrificed for Sonic underground
>>737529435>SatAM truly nailed the true sonic world.There was no "true sonic world" for literally decades.
>>737529030Would. Both. At the same time. Though I still prefer the left.
Post more hot chick heaven
Wish I can "hug" all the Mobian girls
>>737529913>>737529997Chris chan please go away
>>737515636You're not the only one (so would I)
>>737515636You done it without the game too.Kek
>>737515636I think an actual remake would just make it an arena fighter, wouldn't it? It's basically a 2D one.
>>737508776Unfortunately, Sonic 4 already exists.
>>737531319Now its gonna be weird hearing someone referring to Sonic 4 without specifying which one
>>737530596Awesome webm there
>>737508776CD time travel mechanics + Frontiers 2
>>737508776Honestly, I just want a 3d sonic game that isn't a hallway with 2d sections filling the gaps. Frontiers was okay but it skrta feel like the oppiste of what made the idea kf the sandbox fun. Yeah I can keep playing srb2 but think they're afraid of not having enough for the price but hell I rather have 10 or so courses with SA2 missions
>>737531481?
>>737508776anal sex with rouge the bat
>>737529435>SatAM truly nailed the true sonic worldSatam is a boring generic cartoon that doesnt take anything from Sonic beyond the designs of two characters and rings. I know it was made when sonic 2 was the latest, but they didnt even try
>>737533345>boring generic cartoonExactly, it nailed the games world's boring generic cartoon aesthetic.
>>737529435>true sonic worldIt literally did not, you're a fucking retard.
>>737533046this but anal sex with amy rose
Sonic has always been about environmentalism.
>>737520708Happier times...everything in my life since I turned 30 has been horrible.
>>737509257I know Sonic in real life and he said this.
>>737508776Sonic Frontiers but with a good story and more well thought out combat that lets you use attacks in your traversal
>>737508776Mania 2Frontiers 2 with a way better open world and way better levelsThat crazy artstyle Sonic StormBattle 2Just give the entire property to LakeFepard.
Something Sega is unable to and cannot provide due to being a company run by retards.
Super Sonic 3D World
Dad sim featuring Cream, Sage etc
>>737533483Sonic should be free as the wind...like Lebowski.
>>737533949Wouldn't want either of them as my dad desu
>>737533714It will never not be funny to know that Sonic Team are like the fucking jocks of Sega, who belittle and make fun of all the other studios before farting out yet another of one of the worst fucking games you've ever played
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>>737534249>who belittle and make fun of all the other studiosIs this ST in general or just Naka?
>>737534756It is unknow if theres bad blood between sonic team and the other studios but probably not cause otherwise the other sega characters wouldn't have been in crossworlds at all, probably a naka thing
>>737508776SonicxEggman
>>737533501HOLY BASED!
>>737508776Uncensored Rouge SA2:2
>>737533345>I know it was made when sonic 2 was the latestthey started work on the show a month before Sonic 2 even started development, anon
>>737508776For it to not come out and for the franchise to die.>>737508861Hivemind.
>>737529435>Shame it get sacrificed for Sonic undergroundthat was either DiC's fault for fucking around or SEGA's fault for suing them, depending on who you want to blame
>>737508776Give Rouge her tits back but make them bigger. Stop being ashamed of the bat tats and embrace the degeneracy.
>>737535654This and Adventure 3More like 1 than 2, give me a good hub world you cheap bastards
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>>737535782something like this
>>737535821wow, where'd you dig that up? haven't seen it before.
>>737512796>>737513132I want this, but only so they have to remaster this music without the NDS audio limitiation:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33dNKYQVJio
>>737536104Women used to just walk around naked in the 90s
>>737508905This.A shame faggots would rather complain about the tiniest model details or whether the media is Japanese/western instead.
>>737538329Why did Sonicfags stopped caring about gameplay?
>>737525030His World
>>737534741Both slop
>>737508776Blue arms on Sonic.
>>737513132Advance could use a port with widescreen and bigger FOV. The original GBA screen is crunched as fuck just like the shitty Sonic 1 port and navigating around the levels feel like a chore especially if you're looking for special stages
I want to eat chili dogs made with sonics shit
>>737535930>traveling up the boss to attack itBOMBER BOMBER BOMBER BOMBER BOMB
>>737508776A sonic + gex crossover game with entirely too much 90s sass. Make some cool lore about the power up monitors and studiopolis that gex somehow involves himself in with his remote.[Spoiler]I dare you
>>737512013>I want Sonic to actually be a shithead punk againHe's always been that he's never stopped being that.>I want Eggman to be the villain and to actually be fucking competent.We've had this for about 10-15 years and it's completely antithetical to who Eggman is fundamentally. Eggman at his core is a manchild that's almost always in over his head, that's his defining characteristic. For Eggman to be the "final villain" you have to do either 1 of 3 things,Have the game be smaller in scopeShoehorn Eggman as the final fight at the end when the game is effectively overChange Eggman's personality.This is why IDW's Eggman is the way he is and why he's so shit; they give him too much presence as some endgame supervillain when he's not even close to that so whenever Flynn writes him it seems ridiculously out of character. Symbolically, Eggman doesn't represent industrialization, he represents mankind's foolishness in messing with the order of things. With all of the Eldritch monsters of the week, Eggman has always been the catalyst for their appearances and that's by design because those monsters are the consequences of his actions.
>>737545545I had enough of the 90s during the 90s, come up with something better than the 90s already.
>>737545785Eggman is extremely competent and always has been, you're seeing it from Sonic's perspective because Sonic is always lucky and badass so Eggman looks like a scrub in comparison.
>>737547323Eggman is competent to an extent but his ego and childishness always gets in the way which is why he fails all the time. SA2 is a very clear example of this because that's Eggman at his most competent. He broke into multiple top secret bases effortlessly, found what is effectively a superweapon and tricked Tails into giving him a chaos emerald. However due to his nature as a egomaniac manchild, Eggman is unable to forsee that Shadow and posthumously, Gerald were using him for his own ends. It's also why he gets all uppity after him blowing up the moon doesn't garner the reaction he wants.
>>737540467They didn't. The ones that did just got older and most likely simply stopped interacting with the fanbase or engaged with Sonic threads here because there wasn't anything left to discuss. Sonic Team will never understand what needs to be fixed, you will always be disappointed, there will always be room for improvement, etc, etc. But the other reason is the kids that grew up with the era of Sonic that focused more on story and characters are now the majority of fans, so they naturally don't give as much of a shit about gameplay. Pic related, even if it's a tiny sample size, it sort of shows this off. Given another poll on a larger forum would yield similar results. This isn't to say that older Sonicfags didn't care more about characters than gameplay, given the comicfags. Whom I have no beef with. They know their place and are happy to stay there as video games are the worst format for telling a Sonic story. (It ALWAYS ends with the gameplay being worse due to divided resources, and there's less time to let a story breathe by the nature of the games' pacing.) Something zoomers have no concept of because that's all they've known.Tangent: 2000s kids are soon to be usurped by movie kiddies, which I will watch with great amusement. They made a big deal about preaching to us older fans that Sonic is a "MULTIMEDIA FRANCHISE NOW OK CHUD" and we shouldn't get so bent out of shape when people don't care about gameplay anymore even if it's thoroughly mediocre and obviously needs to be prioritized first since they are, you know, video games. Enjoy getting talked down to in ten years by an alphie who insists that Sonic MCUquipping and having electric based speed powers are actually a staple of the franchise and that you're being weird for disagreeing.>b-but Sonic was always a multimedia franchiseIn the 90s he wasn't. He was still primarily known for his games first. Now it's the other way around, sadly.
>>737546172The alphas and zoomettes are obsessed with the 90s right now. Strike while the irons hot I always say
>>737548220What about Morio Kishimoto responding to feedback
>>737533971T-thank you... Sonic the Hedgehog...
>>737537372The CD soundtrack exists
>>737511874Becoming enlightened is to realise a good sonic game is a multiplayer racing game
>>737548220>SpoilerI was already fearing this back in 2018. The 'fans' don't give two shits about the gameplay like you said, but the people who started off with Sonic via the films are the ones I'm worried about, they'll likely NOT play the games and push for more movies, shows and comics, anything but the games. It doesn't help that video games are taking five to eight years to be released so you don't even get the amount of variety that you from 2001 to 2006 anymore. It's not just SEGA, it's across the board. Imagine waiting four years for a shitty game. Now imagine waiting six years for another shitty game with nothing in-between.You're better off watching the games instead of playing them.
>>737548220As kidslop the movies are, having it be turned into MCUslop is better than having it be full of tranny fans driven by IDW garbage and Frontiers writing. I for one welcome the shitty tiktok edits over more potential Chrischans and horrible, HORRIBLE OCs and reputation ruining autism.
>>737551850>>737548220We all came to the conclusion a long time ago that the gameplay we wanted was never going to happen. Sorry you're 10 years late to the party>2000s kids are soon to be usurped by movie kiddies, which I will watch with great amusement. They made a big deal about preaching to us older fans that Sonic is a "MULTIMEDIA FRANCHISE NOW OK CHUD"For all the issues the 2000s kids have, none of them were saying this. You have them mixed up with the large influx of COVID tourists that invaded literally every single space imaginable. Gameplay is obviously important but when the gameplay faltered you at least had the story and there has to be a balance of both because like it or not Sonic is/was always meant to have a story/message baked into it as early as Sonic 1. >(It ALWAYS ends with the gameplay being worse due to divided resources)You don't even know what you're talking about, nor do you understand how game development works. The resources are divided 90% of the time, due to Sega's retarded micromanagement. Not everyone on a game dev team is a programmer and if they are then they don't specifically create one type of thing.As a matter of fact it seems your whole post just comes off as a bitter whiny millennial projecting his own bullshit onto the younger generations as always. You're trying to start shit when you don't even understand what people have an issue with and why. It's because of people like you that we get shit like the Silent Hill 2 remake.
>>737553074Imagine a Sonic game that only has Sonic playable. Because it has only one playable character means that 100% of the stages in the game are played by that character.If the game had 4 playable characters that all had extremely different gameplay style then each character would only get to play through 25% of the stages if they were distributed equally.In this case you would only get 25% of a Sonic game because all the other characters don't share the same gameplay.
>>737548220I dread a world we're the multimedia projects are more prioritized than the games themselves, i'm not prepared for it bros...
>>737553074>Sorry you're 10 years late to the partyI've been aware of that since 2011 when Generations didn't replicate Sonic's classic gameplay. Mania did however and they never tried to keep that train going. Superstars was a derailment.>As a matter of fact it seems your whole post just comes off as a bitter whiny millennial projecting his own bullshit onto the younger generations as always. You're trying to start shit when you don't even understand what people have an issue with and why. It's because of people like you that we get shit like the Silent Hill 2 remake.A hit dog hollers. You're exactly the person he's talking about on that poll, a storyfag who got too comfortable with the games being shit.
>>737554212>If the game had 4 playable characters that all had extremely different gameplay style then each character would only get to play through 25% of the stages if they were distributed equally.In this case you would only get 25% of a Sonic game because all the other characters don't share the same gameplay.We're talking about Sonic Team's shitty development cycle. Do you think it takes the same amount of time to make every single character. Have you ever worked a job in your life?>>737555003I stopped playing the games after Generations. When I saw Lost World I pretty much accepted that the series is effectively dead because there's no vision. I'd rather they have both good gameplay and consistent characterization. Also I'm still right and my point still stands
>>737557214Most resources are spend on the stages, not characters
