Best Castlevania coming through
That's not Castlekino X68000 but it's still a respectable opinion.
>>737509824It's a solid game, but falls off in the last two levels.
>>737510148>Castlekinohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7XSLyXG238
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>>737509824ermm that would be this CHVD
>>737509824This game and RoB taught me why game limitations ARE game design. IV had 8-directional whipping which everyone 'loved' but which made the gameplay weak and easy since you can kill — I shit you not — most enemies through walls and ceilings where they can't reach you.
>>737511732Nintendo fans watch gay black porn?
>>737511601>Rebirth
>>737512121what the fuck that scared me
>>737509824You confused with CV64
awesome boss fights bro
>>737512121>Liveleak
>>737509824>have to restart the entire game every time you dieGenuinely unplayable uncslop
>>737512697>>737510858Cool port.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPX3L_72x4g
>>737511601Replace Rondo and Rebirth with CV1 and CV3
Rondo > X68000 > Bloodlines > 3 > 1 > 4
>>737509824Its great but no. The water level was the best part of the game. Kino music to.
Are whips melee attacks?
>>737514647>Rondo first>4 last>3 that lowHoly fuck, could you be any more of a casual reddit faggot?
That's not Adventure Rebirth or Rondo of Blood
>>737511806Post your no death 2 loop clear of SCIV poser
>>737515107Rondo's level design, branching paths, boss design, and music are all top-tier, and it feels better to play than X68000. X68000 has better stages than Bloodlines. Bloodlines is really solid all-around but doesn't have anything truly exceptional and is a bit too short. 3 is decent with Trevor but sucks with anyone else and goes on a bit too long. 4 is just a bad game in general, the levels aren't designed around the 8-way whip and it's full of tech-demo gimmicks that were included for no other purpose than to show off Mode 7, except it also runs like absolute shit with slowdown constantly.
this was the game where the game solidified itself as being for certified real niggas by making Bram Stroker's Dracula canon
>>737515436Rondo's level design is abhorrent, its artstyle garish, its alternative routes feel borderline unfinished and are a huge step down in quality compared to the already mediocre level design, the bridge section as Richter is the worst section in any CV game, there are multiple long, extremely corny unskippable cutscenes, bosses are sloppy and underwhelming, subweapon balance is terrible and the best subweapons are way too strong (die once on a boss and now it's 5x harder without your subweapon), the extended whip attack is janky and awkward as fuck but many bosses feel balanced around it, the game is plagued with slowdown (especially the Death fight), and it was clearly rushed and never tested as there is a literal missing background that was somehow never noticed or fixed, pic related (as if the absolutely rancid alternative routes wouldn't already clue you into that)No, Rondo of Blood is overrated as fuck. It was originally glazed by collectorfags just because so few people played it compared to the NES/SNES entries, and they wanted to seem like part of some elite club of Rondo players so they acted like it was way better than it really was (similar with most hidden """gems"""). Now it's sucked off by retarded poser redditfags who have never played another CV game and blow through it on emulator spamming rewind constantly and hail it as a masterpiece because they want to try to fit in.
ayyo anons can you decide for me which castlevania I should commit to beating? I usually just do 1 no continue run and make it to like level 4 and rage quit.
>>737515436>Rondo's level designRondo has some of the weakest level design in the series. So many flat, straight hallways and little to no verticality. Dracula X annihilates it on this aspect with level design closer to the NES games, especially 3.
>>737515436>it's full of tech-demo gimmicks that were included for no other purpose than to show offBloodlines is just as guilty of this. Even the final level just feels like the programmers playground, splitting the screen into 3 and then turning it upside down.
>>737509824Dracula's Curse is better
>>737516180>its artstyle garishIt has a kino 90s anime style in its cutscenes/artwork, and the in-game sprites are hands-down some of the best of that console generation, and set the stage for the look of every other 2D game in the series, to the point that Rondo sprites were still being reused even in the DS Castlevanias (they usually stick out because they are higher quality than the new sprites).>alternative routes feel borderline unfinishedThey feel like fun bonus levels meant to encourage replayability, and are full of entertaining setpieces and elements that make the game feel more varied and like there are things to discover, unlike most CV games which are just a single straight shot with no variance between playthroughs.>the bridge section as Richter is the worst section in any CV gameWhat makes it worse than that same section in other CV games? Nearly every CV game has a long hallway or bridge section that's a gauntlet of enemies, Rondo's is no worse than things like the hallway with the chandelier in Bloodlines for example.>There are multiple long, extremely corny unskippable cutscenesThe only "long" one is the opening one, and if you reset as soon as you gain control, you're left with a clean save file at 0% that you can then copy to your other slots and always start a new run without having to watch it. The Maria ones are short, and the ending one is long but the game is already over so it doesn't disrupt the flow. Super Metroid does the same thing and has the same solution.>bosses are sloppy and underwhelmingThis is too general a statement to even comment on.>subweapon balance is terrible and the best subweapons are way too strongThis has always been the case, and is even worse in Bloodlines as far as I'm concerned.>the extended whip attack is janky and awkward as fuckI never had an issue.>the game is plagued with slowdownThe slowdown is minor compared to the NES games or 4, which runs like molasses.
>>737509824The music is awesome. Love the Genesis sound.
>>737516957>kino 90s anime style>entertaining setpieces>What makes it worse than that same section in other CV games?>This has always been the case, and is even worse in Bloodlines as far as I'm concerned.>I never had an issue>The slowdown is minor compared to the NES games or 4, which runs like molasses.All of these are blatantly incorrect and make it more obvious you are a poser zoomer faggot playing on emulator spamming save states and rewind.It's funny how you immediately reveal exactly the type of retard you are
>>737516180>it was clearly rushed and never tested as there is a literal missing backgroundThis isn't proof that the game was rushed. The level of quality of the spritework, the soundtrack, and the fact that it has more content than any other game in the series up to that point are evidence to the contrary.The rest of your post is just battling a strawman you've constructed of le reddit collectorfag and has nothing to do with the game. I do find the idea that the only people who like it "blew through it on emulator spamming rewind constantly" hilarious though, since it really shines when going for deathless runs, like all the other CVs.
>>737517130Quoting my points isn't the same as refuting them. Try again.
>Instigates World War 1 as a giant demonic sacrifice to resurrect DraculaWhere the heck did they get such an outlandish idea from?
>>737516957CV1 and CV3 have almost no slowdown... did you even play them or do you just not know what slowdown is?
>>737509824I like 1 and 3 more but Bloodlines is certainly a respectable choice.
>>737517157You can't even deny that you spammed save states and rewind. No wonder your opinion is so fucking wrong and worthless
>>737516632The final level sucks ass but the other gimmicks are pretty unintrusive. You gonna complain about the reflective water in level two or the rotating tower in level three?
>>737517297Did a redditor spamming rewind fuck your sister or something? I'm not him, you have to let it go. I like to actually play video games and I have never used rewind in my life.
>>737517243JP CV3 has a lot slowdowns and I feel that these days more people play that than the the western version.
>>737517358Funny, I was originally gonna mention just those and the Cog boss as other examples of tech demo syndrome, but just went for the most blatant.
>>737517427That explains why I remember it being slower than Rondo, I never played the western version.
Here are the actual best Castlevanias.>Castlevania>Castlevania III>Belmont's Revenge on Game Boy
What's the best Genesis Flash Cart?
>>737509824not with that fucking sound qualitynormie pick but rondo of blood really is the best castlevania, any other pick is dishonest.
Seriously not a single one of you faggots will tell me which game to beat? You'd rather sit around arguing about which game is best? >>737517651Take those fucking nostalgia goggles off boomer CV1 is complete ass.
>>737517671Rondo is peak poser/redditor pick
>>737517671I mean I agree with Rondo being better but sound? that's your argument? you're a retard.
>>737517820>the game is bad because people I don't like think it's good!Bloodlines has a huge amount of posers latching onto it as well, if not even more, because of it being one of the more sought-after Genesis games for collectors. Is it shit too because people who like to collect hunks of plastic like to put it on their shelves?
>>737517806play through them in release order and gtfo, faggot
>>737517569But those are just cool visuals that don't get in the way of the gameplay. The rotating room in IV on the other hand is a boring slog that lock you in place for entire minutes just to show off the mode 7.
>>737517972Genesis was way more popular than Turbo CD and Bloodlines released in the US. It's not comparable.I'm not saying every niche game is bad, but most hidden gems are overrated to hell, including Rondo
>>737517806>CV1 is complete assYou take that back!
Rondo is just the easiest and most casual with the best production values over gameplay, so retards and redditors flock to it as the more sophisticated choice, same with Supe lr Metroid
>>737518052Don't forget the room where you have to hang onto that grapple point while the room rotates around you to show off more SNES capabilities. The entire game is a shitty tech demo and I don't understand what people see in it.>>737518118PC-Engine was more popular than Genesis in Japan, and Rondo outsold Bloodlines despite the latter getting a Western release. Rondo sold ~20k in its first month, and Bloodlines sold ~10k in its lifetime in Japan. If you're using popularity/sales as an indicator, Bloodlines is more nich and therefore the poser pick.
>>737518357We're talking about the west, not Japan. And source on only 10k
>>737517220>you can hear the pictureFUCK the music in the game was so damn good.
>>737518349>easiestMost of the enemies in 4 can be killed before they're ever a threat by just whipping diagonally through the floor/ceiling. The whip is so overpowerd that the subweapons are completely useless. The average stage in Rondo is better designed and more challenging.>>737518813>We're talking about the west, not Japan.I can't find the numbers for the West but I doubt they were very high either. The 10k number is on Wikipedia, cited from a site that aims to aggregate Japanese sales figures but its accuracy for older games seems dubious, so I'll give you that. I have no doubts that Rondo outsold it in Japan though since the Mega Drive wasn't doing well there. Rondo was also popular in the West as an import title since it first came out, so I wouldn't be surprised if its Western audience was comparable to Bloodlines even back then (the typical Genesis owner just bought sports games).
>>737518349>Rondo is just the easiestRondo is definitely on the easier end of classicvania but 4 is way easier.
>>737519310>>7375194594 starts off easy, but is deceptively difficult. Post your 2 loop no death clears of 4
>>737519310>>737519459It's okay to admit you never beat SCIV without save states or rewind and just downloaded your opinion from YouTubers.SCIV is about middle of the pack in terms of difficulty, definitely harder than CV1, CV3JP, and Rondo.
>>737509824It's really good but i don't think it's the best.The 4th gen castlevanias are all so damn great, i'm just so glad i got to experience them in my lifetime.SuperBloodlinesRondoBelmont's Revenge..... (it's on an 8bit system but it came out in the 4th gen era, and it's directed by Toru Hagihara who did rondo and SOTN so it counts)Kino overload.>>737516267Level design isn't just the physical layout of the level. Enemy placement is also part of level design, which your picture and point doesn't address.Rondo's level design is excellent.
>>737517806>CV1 is complete ass.NTA but show us an Action Platformer from 1986 that competes with it.Ghosts n Goblins (arcade version) is the only equivalent.
>>737517820Used to be rondo
>>737516632A lot of gen 4 games have tech demo syndrome
>>737516190Don't try 1 cc until you've beat the game at least once. Rondo or 4 are probably the easiest to 1cc
>>737510148Does X68000/chronicles get better? I was pretty bored with it
>>737517987ewww no cv1 is gross
>>737523694I am a real gamer I live and die by 1cc.
When can we get a Castlevania 3D Souls-like? This would be kino lets be honest
