It's time
enjoy it. hunts are fun
dare you to grind out the tournesol
12 is goodHunts a re fun but the type of gameplay either will or wont click with youits probably the best mainline FF with good dialogue and performance
>>737515824isn't it like ff11 but singleplayer?I've been hungering to play a good solo MMO-like
>>737514204>its time for the worst version of ffxii with fast forward because auto play wasnt enoughOki
>>737515979yeah it close to that as long as you know what youre getting into
>>737514204Dropped it three times over the years so I'm giving up on it but maybe it's your cup of tea.
Just keep in mind that the 2 characters that the game introduces first turn out to be the least important.
>>737516118That's funny because I did too. I completed it a year ago and I didn't hate it. But it's one of the FFs I didn't complete multiple times
>>737514204Quick tip: as soon as the westersand opens, go there and kill 30 wolves, and then go into the little secluded area and a big wolf will spawn. Spam steal until you get the mage masher. It will trifoliate the first 30 percent of the game. Make sure to make a save before entering the area in case you don’t steal the dagger or if the wolf kills you. I recommend letting your AI companion run in to distract the enemies while you steal right next to the exit so you can leave once successful or if your companion dies and the enemy turns their attention to you. You might have to enter and leave the zones for enough wolves to respawn to hit the 30 mark, but as long as you don’t leave the actual westersand, it should count towards spawning the big wolf.
they sell this shit for 50 fucking dollars? it came out 20 goddamn years ago
>>737514204i fucking regret buying that shit
>>737516118legit I did the same thingThen I hunkered down and took my time with it and I did end up enjoying it
>>737515979its much worse than ff11.
Did they add a sane way to get the zodiac spear?
>>737514204>remember all those hunts and the sheer amount of content>play it again and realize there's really not much to do in combat even if you turn off gambits>melee jobs literally just auto attack without any other attack skillIt really would've been better if it was a traditional turn based JRPG.
>>737514204>$15 for a game you can emulate for free that came out 30 years ago>a literal single player mmo with shitty storywhy? does it come with a hat or something you steam fag?
I always get to the final leg of the main quest and somehow get walled. Still a very fun game.>>737516807it's worth buying for many reasons, which you should know. Go and look them up.
>>737516583Yeah, it’s a guaranteed reward from the hunt club now. Although you can still get it from treasure chests if you need multiple copies, but it’s not the strongest weapon anymore.
>>737514204Save yourself $15.
>>737516807Okay I'll respond to your bait:It has a modding scene with actual gameplay mods that don't exist on the console version
>>737516902Yeah, the later levels are just big mazes or identical rooms full of enemies that will debuff you heavily. It gets tiresome after the first few minutes.
>>737514204Can you get mods on the deck? There are like three mods that make this game seem like the best FF ever.
>>73751420415 bucks is a great deal for 12. recommend going through the game blind then looking up a guide for 100%
>>737516054Most people consider it the best. Many seethe because they played the vanilla first
>>737516902>I always get to the final leg of the main quest and somehow get walledThe main quest of any final fantasy game including this is braindead easy. I even beat the final boss underleveled when I was a kid.
>>737516118Lol I enjoyed it the most on the second playthrough. The quests and hunts are the best. I wish it had clan wars like in tactics. Now that would've been kino. Or if Montblanc could've joined your party.
Trying to decide between Star Ocean 2nd story R and Persona 3 reload. I just don't know it is a hard choice. I don't really enjoy highschool dating sim mechanics
>>737516239Cheesing isn't fun
>>737517019idk what to tell you. I completed FFX arena and had 4 fully completed sphere grids but FF12 I kept getting walled. I never looked it up or anything, by the time I got to that point I was ready to drop the game every single time. It's fun, but actionslop and atbslop will never be any good compared to an actual turn based rpg.
>>737517218this game isn't fun without a 100% steal mod.
>>73751666095% if not all the games in this series is press X to win.
>>737517019The wall in the tomb was probably the hardest thing in FF12. Maybe that and one of those fights where you have to beat the totem to summon it. Also the flaming pegasus but that's so early in the game where you don't know what you're doing.Other than that FFX has harder boss fights.
For the record, this is how long it took me to finally beat it due to dropping it on and off over the years. I did beat the original on ps2 but this go was just very tedious.
>>737517187Well P3 is the swansong of that series so.....Also the steins gate vn is for sale last I checked
>>737517019I have the same save file from 2012 for FF Crisis Core because that game is IMPOSSIBLE on the hardest difficulty. I got stuck in sidequest hell and can't even remember the main plot.
>>737517448How old are you? That might explain a lot.
>>737517578I remember that. I think I stopped at one of the missions where you have to fight the iron giant. It couldn’t hit me due to my superior dodging ability, but he had so much health that I genuinely just stopped playing.
>>737517629I’m 35. I remember playing the original back in high school.
>>737517653Lol I do remember that to get the materia that breaks the 9999 dmg cap you need to defeat some ultimate bahamut with like 500k hp. Ridiculous.
>>737514204the only 10/10 from mainline FF
>>737517448Also to add to this, how does only 89 percent of PlayStation users started the game and then beat the literal tutorial. Do people just load it up and then never touch it again after a few minutes? I know on playstation the game isn’t added to your trophy list unless you started it so there’s over ten percent of players who just never beat the part with Reks.
>>737517448I don't understand trophy hunters. Just stop playing a game after you've experienced the story and are satisfied. Don't force yourself to grind out every trophy in a game if you don't enjoy it.
>>737517835that's most games anon. Always has been. something like 60% of purchases never play more than 2 hours.
I wish Zodiac Age would give you the option to just not assign jobs and play it like vanilla FF12. I love this game but it was piss easy on release and every time they update it they just make it way easier to break your characters and make it easier.
I'm playing FFX right now. I'll circle back to it later.
Which overhauls/mods are worth playing? I tried Planetary Age a while back and it was a good way to change things up (for someone who's played through the game 10 times), but still not better than the base game.
>>737514204>See this>Rabanastre music plays in my headGod dammit you and the fucking Bully posters
>>737514204I wish there was a proper sequel to this game.
>>737521863struggle for freedom is ok. it's a difficulty mod too, which i'm not a fan of, but the job/equipment changes are cool
>>737514204still too expensiveyes i am brown
>>737517484steins gate is bad, not worth the money even on sale.
>>737514204The last good Final Fantasy was 10
>>737528245Not a VN fan?
out of PS2 original, PS2 Zodiac and Remaster Zodiac, which are actually worth playing?with X i'd never tell someone to play the original or the remaster, but i've never played XII so idk
>>737516118same. I played it when it came out and dropped it, tried emulating it later and dropped it, then got zodiac age on PC when it came out and dropped it. I don't like the characters or story at all, and I don't really care for this version of the setting. XII is easily one of my least favorite FFs and to this day the only numbered game I've never completed.
>>737528907The main thing with PS2 Vanilla is that every single character has the same License Board (think Sphere Grid from X) so they all have equal potential and become more specialized as you build them out.Zodiac adds traditional Final Fantasy jobs with their own unique skill trees, so every character can be distinct from the start. I personally think the vanilla way was interesting but faggots complained a lot about it so maybe you wouldn't enjoy it. Zodiac also removes the ability to permanently miss the ultimate weapons and removes the damage cap, but its all just a way of making an already easy game even easier.The big difference between PS2 Zodiac and Remaster Zodiac is that remaster lets each character equip TWO jobs, which makes them even more powerful and the game even easier, but at least this is optional.
>>737531613hm maybe i'll just start with the original and either go in order or if i don't like it just stop thereweird how they changed 12 so much in future releases
>>737531613original license board also has the licenses hidden until you're one tile away from them. so the game incentivizes branching into different directions with each character to scout the board.
>>737532319oh and quickenings are in different corners of the board too and they are much more lucrative in the original as gaining 2 gives you +1 mana bar effectively doubling your base mana. and third one tripling it. the whole argument of "every character has the same build" isnt true until like 50 hours into the game.
>>737531613>Zodiac adds traditional Final Fantasy jobs with their own unique skill trees, so every character can be distinct from the start. I personally think the vanilla way was interesting but faggots complained a lot about it so maybe you wouldn't enjoy it.IMO zodiac removed a lot of class flavor from the game via standardization. like in zodiac you do the tutorial hunt and you can choose bushi and then buy a crappy katana in rabanastre weapon store. because samurai is a basic job now. whereas in the original version you wont find a single katana in the game until you reach garif village where one is sold for like 10k gil. it's a distinct gameplay moment I remember still.
>>737532949Exactly. I hate this modern trend where the original versions of games are locked on original hardware and when they finally port it over it's full of bullshit untested changes everywhere.
>FFXII The Zodiac Age: "gameplay" so good they officially give you a fast forward button to get through it
>>737528907TZA was a bad way to play it until it came to PC but PC has mods to turn it into any version so play that and mod it.Use this to fix the graphicshttps://helixmod.blogspot.com/2018/02/final-fantasy-xii-zodiac-age.htmlI don't care what other mods you use but I do recommend using some, the base game is laughably easy.
>>737533142Kills the mood, and the entire roleplaying aspect>>737514204Solid 5/10, better than most modern games if only for not having a cringecore story
>>737516660>>737517359Seriously, what is with this new zoomer wave of people trying to talk about how difficult Final Fantasy games are, or discrediting a certain game for being easy, or discrediting it for just mashing attack or playing itself or whatever. ALL Final Fantasy games are just spamming 1 button to win. ALL Final Fantasy games are just press attack to win. Final Fantasy was the original "movie game" series. I was a retarded kid from FFI all the way to FFX, and for all of those games I beat it by just pressing Attack and healing when necessary. That's Final Fantasy. That's all Final Fantasy. Why is the zoomer conversation around this series full of people who are pretending one game is harder or easier than the other games? They're all functionally the same exact game in terms of gameplay. You press attack and the enemy dies. It has never been a difficult series. It's literally designed specifically to be beaten by women and children.
>>737514204Hows the mod scene for it? Played through it on multiple consoles so I'd need an incentive to buy the PC version.
>>737533707FF12 plays itself, there isn't even the illusion you're playing the game.
>>737514204I own it.The combat system is incredibly boring.
>>737533737>buy
>>737533759XII only plays itself if you set the game up specifically so that it plays itself.
>>737533851which is the intended way t olay>heal when low>otherwise attackthen you hold or rubber band your analog stick in a direction and fall asleep
>>737533707>new zoomer wavePeople have been shitting on FF XIII (which is a bad game with many problems) for over 10 years for having "easy" combat and "lol autobattle" despite the fact that all FF games are just mindlessly using the same attacks over and over and that FF 13 at least had a ranking system and paradigm shifting to encourage active play.It's nothing new. People are just retards.
>>737533879Setting the game up so that it plays itself is as much "playing the game" as any Final Fantasy is. I'd argue that Gambits are a thing sorely needed as a staple to the Final Fantasy series.
Too late, doing another FF5 run.One day I'll do four job fiesta.
>>737533707I don't know why you think that just because I am deriding this game for being easy, it means I think any of the other games are actually hard. Final Fantasy games are ALL too easy, this is a series-wide flaw and it sucks because Final Fantasy games have interesting mechanical ideas and can be strong in other areas like story and art style.I have no idea why you are projecting all that shit onto me just because I pointed out that this one game which I otherwise enjoy is easier than it needed to be.
>>737533759If selecting attack/jump/piledrive on your melee and your nuke spell on your caster is really something you need to have the>illusion you're playing the game.Maybe you need some introspection. If anything, you might even put more thought into setting up and adjusting your gambits then >hmm I use my aoe to one turn every random encounter and on bosses I cast buffs and then I use my strongest attack
>>737533921paradigms and role movesets were way too simple, especially considering you only control 1 character
>>737533968>I don't know why you think that just because I am deriding this game for being easy, it means I think any of the other games are actually hard.Because you said: >It really would've been better if it was a traditional turn based JRPG.which other Final Fantasy games are.
>>737533879>heal when lowonly works in zodiac where they scaled healing spell effectiveness up, gave all characters like 2-3x mana in early game and also gives you cura really early on. in original you're working with the shitty cure spell and 50-100 max mana like first third of the game.
>>737533940Okay but you're retarded.>>737534059It worked always it just took longer to get in the original
>>737534120>just took longer to get in the originalwhich made it feel earned. in zodiac age you're autobattling at fast forward with vaan solo right out the gate.
>>737534120I accept your concession.
>>737534183no it just made that game horrible since the combat isn't meant to be manual, but the original forced you into that for a pretty long time. This is why they released IZJS to fix that.
>>737534183>earning an auto-battle modelol what the fuck
>>737534243>since the combat isn't meant to be manualit is. gambits are there just to assist you. they aren't meant to turn the game fully automated. this is proven by combat mechanics that gambits can't do like raising/healing/buffing reserve party members, which is a huge deal when you're playing the game as intended.
the best parts of FFXII are getting your loicenses to wear clothes, experiencing a gripping half-assed unfinished story and world design due to matsuno stepping down for ass cancer reasons and to top it all off with absolute sicko mode nothing MMO style gameplay in the last half of the game that could put even the biggest child adderall addict to sleep. a total classic that is not entirely boosted up by weirdos and japanphobic freaks.
>>737516947So can you?
>>737516947most intelligent steam drone
>>737534550This but unironically.
>>737514204oh golden sale already
>>737533142Pretty sure 9 has this as well
>>737514204Steam is shit. Don't make threads.>But i'm too stupid to pirateEmulate.Not just that but steam is a bad store anyway.
>>737535292Why is Valve so hated these days?Gabe Newell used to be to /v/ what Elon Musk was to reddit
>>737516118I played the original on PS2 and dropped it, then a decade later bought the OP version and finally beat it but damn was it a slog and not worth it. I would not recommend ever picking it up again if I were you
>>737534550If you didn't like the hunts then you're just a grump
>>737533142VII, VIII, and IX have fast forward buttons in their rereleases too.
>>737534550Always confusing when people say XII is their favorite. After playing every Final Fantasy except XI, the only games I enjoyed less than XII are II and XIV. I would rather replay XIII any day over ever touching XII again.
Final Fantasy XI (pre-2010 update) was the best FF game and it's not even close.The whole rest of the series is easy and railroaded but XI was buttfuck hard and super open and player/mechanics driven.At the time it reminded me mechanically much more of Dragon Quest than Final Fantasy, of course Dragon Quest has been going downhill now too starting with DQ11
>>737517314It's still not fun with one
>>737535653Hunts anon, the hunts
The speedup feature is so fucking good. Every older jrpg should get it
>>737536803I find it interesting nobody asked for speedups during the days when old school pokemon, FF, DQ etc was all the rage. Then we get past 2010 and suddenly everyone is using it. Why was the older generation willing to accept non stop random encounters?
>tfw when i used the rng finder program to pinpoint exactly when to open the invisible chests to get three OP super bows
>>737537074it was the style at the time
