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Haven't played it since I was a kid, but I remember it being one of my favorite of my many Gameboy games
>>737520068It's a broken mess. What were they thinking when they made cards like Bill and Energy Removal?
Replaced by its sequel, its everything the first game has and more.Maybe you don't hear the grand duel theme as much though, the only negative
>>737520068loved the music
>>737520856The Great Rocket theme is better.
>>737520068SOVL/10.Tho playing it again as an adult was an eye-opening experience. I shitstomped the whole game with virtually the starting deck boosted up by random jank. As a kid I remember spending countless ours grinding packs to build a deck good enough to beat the gyms. Goes to show what a snot-eating little shit I was back then.
>>737520068what I find interesting is how good this game is compared to how good other TCG card games from the same time period were. Yugioh games only started to get good after like 20 more iterations after this game released. Mtg was even worse, it took them over 20 years to make a game that was competent, and honestly it isn't even as good as pokemon tcg gbcIt was really really well ahead of its time. It's a damn shame that they only made 1 sequel and then stopped making any more games. I suppose the problem with making good games of tcgs is that they canibalize interest in the physical product, but it's depressing because they really did a great job so early only to completely abandon it. And now there's just that godawful phone game to replace it. Disgusting.
>>7375200689/10 game. If you didn't enjoy it, it's your fault. The battery in my cartridge died, so I had to marathon it in one sitting. I never beat the game that way, but I eventually did on an emulator. Built a bunch of different decks and had a blast. Honestly not sure how I'd make it better. It was the first of its kind and played great.
>>737521428The good MTG video game came out earlier however.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic:_The_Gathering_(1997_video_game)
Best music in the entire franchise.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxH7Jf8xM5I
>>737521428even TO THIS DAY, if you want to play a TCG RPG this holds up really well with the best of them. Card City Nights? This beats itCardaire? This beats itInscryption Part 2? This beats itAnode Heart: Layer Null? This beats itScour Steam for every card game RPG you can get your hands on and you'll STILL end up thinking that a damn gameboy colour game is the best game made so far
This and its sequel are extremely overshadowed by the other spin-off games in the franchise, it's a shame they don't get the recognition they deserve. The music was also ridiculously good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3mFSP7B3Wk
>>737520068Fun but glitchy dog shit/10. If you played it on emulator it's perfectly fine but if you played an actual cartridge then god bless your fucking soul, you probably started this shit over at least 12 dozen times with the way the save file will constantly corrupt. I've lost count of the times I've inserted this shit into my GBC only to be greeted by a New Game.You also couldn't even save scum. If you loss a coin toss, the game would like auto lock the results so even if you reset or restarted the game you would lose that coin flip no matter what. I fucking hated that shit as a kid.I did enjoy the music though. And I digged the gyms being replaced by clubs even if some of them didn't make sense at all like the science club one. Also Imani or Imanaki or whatever the fuck that weirdo was called.
>>7375200680/10 card games are gay.
Toxic was so fucking satisfying.
>>737521886My GBC cartridge that I had was completely bug free, same as the emulator experience. And I played that game for hundreds of hours as a kid. Something must have been weird with your cartridge.I did play on a Japanese copy of the game so maybe it was the English localized copy that was fucked up?
>>737521886coin flips are seeded. only way to change the result of a coin toss is to use a different card that tosses a coin first
>>7375200684/4(four colors out of four)
>>737521526>Honestly not sure how I'd make it better.The Japan only sequel managed to make it better by adding a second island, a bunch of post-game duels, and nearly doubling the amount of cards with the addition of the Team Rocket expansion, most of the Japan only promo cards, and some game exclusive ones. Highly recommend playing it if you haven't.
It's by far the best card game video game simply because they cut the bullshit and give you two packs every time you win a game. No grind at all.
>>737522621and the coin flip casino game that drives you crazy unless you cheat
Did Nintendo ever release the Rocket Sequel on Switch yet?
>>737522816Not yet, if at all. If they do, it'd probably be Japan exclusive, they're definitely not translating it into other languages.
>>737520856Bullshit. The 2nd game literally reuses the same map and gyms. It's got more cards that's it but the first game was better and had Imakuni
>>737523183>first game was better and had ImakuniThe sequel has him appear on both islands, he dresses in red on GR Island for some reason.
>>737522337As a kid who had physical versions of most of those cards, I just thought they looked like severely limited versions of them.As an adult though, holy fuck are the sprites aesthetic, and the use of limited colours is nothing short of wizardry.
Mint Sex
>>737521827Yep. I've never found a game that can scratch that itch.
>>737524052I'm still looking too. There's no way it should be this hard to make good new card game rpgs
>>737520068I just played through the game for the first time this past weekend with no expectations and no familiarity with the TCG. It is unbe-fucking-lievable how much fun I had. I basically beat the game in three sittings because I just could not put it down. I started off sucking and dreading how long it would take to build a deck, but the game's difficulty curve is extremely fair and there's no monotony whatsoever. Eventually I started running a Water/Electricity deck with Raichu, Electabuzz, and Seadra as my heavy hitters, and it all came together. Some of the Elite Four's cards are slightly bullshit (like Courtney's Moltres, fuck that card to death but I enjoy using it myself), but that just makes beating them that much more satisfying. The music is excellent. I even did every last one of the post-game challenges, which I usually never do, because I was just having so much fun. The ONLY thing that stops it from being a 10/10 is the Challenge Hall. I had no clue that you could access them during the main storyline because the game never told me I could, and ended up beating the game without knowing what the fuck it was. Having to constantly reset my console until it finally opened up was pretty tedious, but not that awful in the grand scheme of things. Still, I could never rate the game less than a very high 9/10. I can't wait to play the sequel, even though I suspect the translation is shit. Is that iOS game any good, too?
>>737524052slay the spire does a pretty good job at itI for one actually like Valve's artifact too (I am not the spammer guy though)I got into modern board games so card games like terraforming mars and clank also fill this itch
>>737524121What do you mean? There's tons of great card game RPGs and deckbuilding games coming out these days.
>>737520068P good. 8/10. 7/10 after I learned about the weird thing where the cards are predetermined via your steps or something. But still goated, the next one is better, I'd say, even if I havent ever finished it.
>>737524142>even though I suspect the translation is shit.Heh...
>>737524145I like Slay the Spire, but it isn't remotely the same.
>>737520068I wish they expanded on it and made more Pokémon TCG RPGs for the GBA and DS. But sadly now the boat has sailed and card games don't get real games anymore, only online-multiplayer versions of the real life card game.
>>737524224This is exactly the line that concerned me. I'm expecting the game's dialogue to basically just be made up, which sucks.
https://www.romhacking.net/translations/1736/If any of you are interested in the second game here's the translation.
>>737524168Ones like Pokemon TCG GBC? Or Inscryption part 2? Ones where you build up your collection gradually over the course of the game?
>>737524279I'll take a good faith attempt from an EOP fan than a toxic trannylation from a western trannylation company.
>>737524224what a travesty
>>737524224As long I can navigate the game.
>>737524298see>>737524224not a translation, the guy has zero Japanese knowledge and is just making shit up
>>737524121Have you played MTG Forge? You won't find it on Steam.
>>737524365you're gonna get way more 'just making random shit up' from the EOP. the EOP doesn't know how to do anything else because they don't understand anything
>>737520068No post game
>>737524470Robots are good enough to let me read Japanese tweets, I'll take their input on children's games over trannylators.
>>737524560this translation predates robots getting good at translating tweets
>>737520068very good
6/10 if you play it today.10/10 if you played it with your friends during the peak of Pokemania in 2000/2001.
>>737525343but I didn't have any friends back then
>>737520068In the top 5 of the best JRPG ever made, literrally the best Pokemon game ever made and the best GC game ever made.water deck is OP btw
>>737520856No because the card they added in the sequel is dogshit as hell and break everything apart
>>737522337GBC had such a short life. I would've loved to see more of this from other games too.
>>737521021>>737521782this
>>737525343still a 9/10 on today standard (not 10 because a little bit short and lacks of mini game/specific rules to spice things up) at higher level.
>>737526641Just demand it from indies they can't do it even though it's actually pretty easy because they're just not skilled enough and lack actual art chops
>>73752006837 yr old hereI was a huge pokemon fag between 98 and 2000 but never learned to play the card game. Collected ans traded but never played. My mom used those glass beads that came with the cards in her plants.
For a gameboy game it was pretty great. Still remember that weird TV actor with his own cards they put in.
>>737524365Your brain is entirely melted wtf are you talking about
>>737520068Imakuni's theme/10. I can still hear it in my head 25 years later.
>haymaker deckim cum>rain dance deckim cum
9/10Super fun with great music.
>>737522337love that so much
>>737521021Easily the best ost on the GBChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeid40RXrvQ
>>737526849this>>737526892play this game, trust me, you won't regret it
>>737520068It's kino. I'm surprised there haven't been more trading card games, though I guess people only care about selling the cards.
>>7375200688/10 I wish they made another singleplayer TCGI have played 2
>>737526784>not 10 because a little bit short and lacks of mini game/specific rules to spice things upThe sequel specifically fixes this.You are asked to build decks with specific restrictions against some bosses.There are mini games.There are 8 super bosses after you beat the game
solid 7/10sequel is a 9, arguably a 10
>>737524145StS1-2 is pretty much a deckbuilder. Not really a trading card game where you play the game (the deck building is secondary to it). I'd say StS is more like MtG's "draft" mode than Pokemon's "game" mode.>>737524224Oof. Wish I knew that before I went through. no wonder he did "Great Rocket" instead of just saying "Team Rocket" (I guess he was worried Nintendo would DMCA it...?), given it's the fucking Team Rocket expansion introduced to the game.
>>737524121>There's no way it should be this hard to make good new card game rpgsthe main problem is that very few people are interested in doing it. Any actually big TCG? they'd rather make you waste money on a gacha (let's not beat around the bush that's what shit like MD and Arena are) Small indies that are game-first? the card game aspect only really flares up as easy shorthand in a dime-a-dozen deckbuilding rougelike. And don't get me wrong I actually enjoy those, but it's like comparing Duelists of the Roses to a standard yugioh title.legit the closest I've ever come to finding another good TCG video game is inscryption and even then it's really only in the first act. act 3 is ok, I like what the second act is going for (I know a lot of people hated it but legit hearing and seeing it and being reminded of OP is why I even played to begin with) but it ultimately feels like a hollow imitation.
>>737520068Pretty fun but very broken. Early Pokémon TCG was just building haymaker decks and dominating everyone before they could even set up.
>>737532232There's technically "Forge" for Magic (even with newer sets) or Duels of the Planeswalkers ("Shandalar"/Sid Meier's version), but that's old and unless you mod it for newer sets (which will break the game AI which is built for like pre-6th edition revisions?) not going to be current.I'd say the closest to a card game is "Phantom Dust" (and you can get it on PC if you don't mind a UWP app and using Win10/11), which was an OG X-box game where you built a "deck" (arsenal in-game terms) and used the "cards"/skills in real-time 3D combat arenas.Outside of a Magic: the Gathering title (forgetting it's name) on (ironically) the OG X-box like Phantom Dust, there hasn't really been another crack at that (real-time 3D "card game" battles).Microsoft said they were doing a sequel and then killed it with meddling.
>>737527391you are like little baby>do the wave deck
>>737532235Why do that when Mewtwo + 59 Energy will break the game. Especially since this is pre-rules revision where if you get the ability to cheat out two energies (which I don't think is possible per-revision but it's been YEARS) you can just start to "shield" from there.That is part of the reason why the "XY: Generations"/reprint set had changed that attack to "once every other turn" where there is a cooldown on it now.You can literally break the game by just trolling with stall.
>>737524365>ArtemisAnon, I...
>>737520856>its everything the first game has and more.No. It doesn't have the open world. The game is very railroaded. You get one starter deck. You have a nearly completely linear order of gyms. And that's it.
>>737532232This suggests there's demand for it though. Maybe an underserved segment of the market, an effortful release might really take off
>>737520068The second game had more interesting battles. Overall I love them both, but hate the tutorial in the first one.
Honestly sad that they don't make TCG RPGs anymore.Everything is just a pseudo-gacha mobile app that exclusively focuses on PvP. The few games with a solo mode are just vs CPU matches with your gacha PvP deck. Meanwhile every single-player card game is a shitty tripe roguelite deckbuilder.The closest we've gotten recently was, what, Act 2 of Inscryption?
>>737538554>The closest we've gotten recently was, what, Act 2 of Inscryption?Well yeah, Act 2 was literally an homage to Pokemon TCG GB.Same sprite style. Same map screen. Same "beat three randos to unlock the gym leader" setup.
>>737520068i really liked this game but water deck is too OP and breaks the game.Also the sequel isn't the best
>>737520752>>737539645Posts like this are funny because you can simply not run those cards and have more fun, but are choosing not to.It's a single-player game.
>>737526892It's really not that hard. They hand hold the hell out of you for the tutorial at the beginning.
>>737521974>nidoking first attack is GCC 30, coinflip chance of 40 or 30 and 10 self-damage>as a 90HP stage 2 with 3RC>meanwhile scyther was just CCC 30>zero retreat>70HP basicthey really just applied the same flat scaling to everything
>>737540262Nidoking is all about the second attack. It does 20+20 damage the moment you use it and then another 20 damage after the opponents turn for 60 damage total. Killing on the opponents turn is even better because then you get the first hit into the opponent's next pokemon. Also Toxic can't be blocked by Mr Mime pokemon power making Nidoking the fastest Mr Mime killer.
>>737521886>couldn't even save scumIt had a separate save for the battle. Every time I reset during a battle, the timer reset. So by the time it's the end game, I had under two hours on the clock. If the battle was not to my favor, I would just restart the save and redo the battle. I would exploit the coin flip seed to play cards according to the result I got before restarting the turn. The only thing I could not abuse was the consecutive battle mode in the lab by post game.
Someone was translating the second game back during covid, idk if it was finished.
>>737541497It was fully translated almost a full decade before covid.Worth playing.
>>737520068removing the mulligan penalty for not drawing a monster utterly broke it, I just tossed a Scyther as soon as I got one(and eventually three more of them) in a deck with nothing else but support and energy cards and rolled the entire game
>>737541569Really? Never knew that thanks.
Best way to play the game:>self-ban Bill, Oak, Blastoise, and all Haymaker basics (yes, this includes Mewtwo mill and Lickitung)>can't use a deck if it has type advantage over your opponent>rewind+savescumming bannedBonus points if you never defeat anyone more than once and run nuzlocke rules (scrap your deck if you lose).Turns the game from a trivial stomp that you can beat in 30 minutes to an actual challenge.
>>737520068The sequel is infinitely better and it's a crime that it never got a proper english release
