>>737523932
ironically casual defenders accuse those who want quickplay back of wearing rose-tinted glasses yet they're the ones who blindly defend casual because it's the only thing they know

>>737523932
>Why low iq are designed to defend corporations to make shit and keep shit in?
compsissies really do say this albeit

Friendly reminder Quickplay chuds only started malding because their lord and saviour Zesty Jesus got continuously mogged by Competitive chads and crashed out in the only way he could try and hurt them (lol)

>>737523932
>muh corporations
Shut up, holy shit.
Buy or don't buy, I'm tired of a literal lifetime of Marxist kvetching.

the only badges I have are a Primeval Warrior and a Service Medal, what the fuck are you talking about

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>>737525746
>Competitive chads
are they in the room with us?

I don't have a badge anymore. I dismantled it over a decade ago...

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>>737523932
>tfw started playing TF2 in November of 2008

valve servers should just be killed altogether
they're the definition of soulless
maybe make quickplay hook people up to community servers too, the problem with those is that it's really hard to get servers started and no one wants to sit in empty servers

>>737523932
what badge? The plate? Why, its bronze of course.

>>737525889
You can still prove you're not a +2016 chudlet with your gibus achievement date

>>737526381
>Ask zoom zoom his badge
>He show me his casual badge (the level shit)
>See his friend list, reverse search his steam profile
>Badge 2017

>Malding that I "fixed" his public steam account
Never laughed this hard

Dogshit game for fags

>>737523932
I've got a 2011 merc badge. Casual really only needs its map pool cut back and it's otherwise fine.

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>>737525542
they're a bunch of faggots
>>737527201
>and it's otherwise fine
no it's not

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>Guys my favorite TF2 Youtuber who started playing the game after it went free to play and deleted his mercenary badge because it said he started playing when the game went free to play FIFTEEN FUCKING YEARS AGO?
>He says we need to make TF2 like it was when it first launched where the game had one button that directly put you into TF2 youtuber servers
>Please people that actually played the game before 2020, please for the love of fuck don't mention there's a massive market for selling steam accounts with old join date badges for mentally ill retards like me
>Please also forget that literally anyone can fire up a server in game RIGHT NOW and play with their friends, that's literally casual propaganda
>BRB MAKING 30 THREADS ON THE TF2 STEAM POWERED USER DISCUSSIONS ABOUT HOW THERE'S BOTS AND VALVE NEEDS TO ADD QUICKLY PLAY ON UNCLE ZESTY'S FAGGOT FARM ONLY THIS TIME I'LL KILL THE GAME AND MAKE MY FAVORITE TFTUMOR GOD FOR SURE!!

>>737523932
>see quickplay defender
>ask them when they started to play
>it's always around 2017 or 2018

>>737525746
>>737525883
I will genuinely never understand why anyone would want to play tf2 competitively. Just go and play counter strike you fucking retards.

#SaveTransFortress2

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>>737523932
>ask to see their Proof of Purchase

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What do you guys think of tf2 classic/classified?

>>737527670
As someone who plays both, please keep faggot TFTumors in their Sisyphean torment chamber
CS is bad enough with retards leaking into my server aimbotting and claiming that banning their "skinchanger" is somehow a form of racism.

I watched my favorite vsh server die over the course of 7 years.
I still wish I could go back to it.

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>>737527698
>tfw you used it to rebuild as a stupid kid and you can't even remember what you got out of it or if that was as far as the rebuilding went

>>737527748
troon shit that isn't even classic and will kill your sever thanks to their rules

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>>737523932
>When I pull out my Platinum Dueling Badge
What now?

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>>737527605
retard

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>>737527748
All I want out of tf2 are populated servers with custom maps that aren't entirely shitposts and I'd even play Gold Rush if it had more of that.
>>737528542
>Spy in the killcam background
kek every time

>TF2 getting more maps is bad because I am a monkey that wants to endlessly play 2fort, dustbowl, upward, badwater, and hightower
custom content support has been a staple of source, goldsrc, quakeworld, and goes back all the way to fucking DOOM. anyone who thinks TF2 should have fewer maps to choose from actively does not like fun and deserves to be cordoned into console FPS lobbies for the rest of his sad life.

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>>737528697
i always smile when i see an ally spy in my deathcam

>>737529112
i WANT to play on those maps but literally nobody queues for them in shitty casual and any community servers that possibly run them are also either completely empty or full of degenerates
removal of quickplay killed community servers

the problem is you fags just want to endlessly bitch without doing anything. i started a server and the highest it went was 10 players on. you all will cry that there aren't any community servers but wont play on them

>>737523932
>defender defends

What did you expect? Assault?

>>737529329
>removal of quickplay killed community servers
retarded secondary spotted
they were just as dead back then with only wacky maps being alive, the reality that you raoed ass meeds to learn is that people always played the same maps, always

>>737529527
no one wants to enter empty community servers
they should add a queue functionality into the browser
you sign up for it without leaving the current server and others can see how many others are queued into them
make it pull everyone who queued for it when it reaches 16 players

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>>737526013
>tfw started playing TF2 in ~September 2008 when I got my first gaming PC
I miss the old Sandman

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I just want to play some fucking Pipeline, man

>>737530092
>The old sandman
>The old soda popper
>The pre-JI Amby
>The old Reserve Shooter
>Set Bonuses
>Pre-Mannconomy

>>737529527
This This THIS

faggots here bitch and moan about sprays, about map rotations, about silly dumb maps, about adons, about the bots when that was blown out of proportion

and what did said faggots do? NOTHING, not a single server made, not a simgle attempt, other people actually tried and did the brown faggots that lurk these threads do anything like actually play? of course not
oh but don't mention that they also play the same maps over and over or that they shilled tf2c to dead only to drop it fast because they blow a fuse

>>737526013
>Preordered TF2

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>>737529843
the only secondary around here is you you fucking faggot
there were plenty of both valve and community servers with vanilla maps i could get on quickplay and play on them for as long as i want without being interrupted by fucking tobuscus doors

>>737529527
Well that's the problem, they don't actually want community servers.
They want Valve to force people onto THEIR community servers.
Hell some of these retards lazily funnel bots into actual user servers.

>>737530838
>there were plenty of... community servers with vanilla maps
you self reported again you stupid retarded secondary, you should stop trying to larp. servers were still dead even with quickplay and you'd know if you used the browser, things were still the same were if you werent running a popular map you would only see 5 or so faggots dicking around
and hell even after casual was added you could still easily go and try to browsw for once in your retarded life but your retarded kind were too raped in the brain to even do that

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>737531382
>trying to gaslight me that my favorite community servers weren't real before casual was added
nice try you fucking casualtard, i accept your concession

>>737530541
TF2 team is lucky that the core gameplay is so solid because they were high on some serious shit when designing new items to throw into the game without a care
>yeah let's just give the best DM class in the game free minicrits for existing
>let's preserve the "can't die to headshot" part of the set bonus but not require you to use the "can't headshot" gun
>vaccinator
>every single iteration of the dead ringer just being more of the same obnoxious bullshit that fools nobody
>whatever sad bastard that thought the pomson was okay, let alone usable
frankly it's ridiculous

>Why low iq are
Stop literally translating from your native language into English.

>>737523932
I stopped playing TF2 around end of the line. I miss it so much, but I gave it a try after they purged the bots and it didn't hit the same. Didn't like the weapon stats and everything felt... Soulless. Didn't like the match selections as well. The players were probably the worst part, too many unironical trannies.

>>737531862
>I died to all these guns and it's both good that valve ruined them but also they haven't ruined more
Also the inviswatch has literally always been better than the deadringer even if you're a retard and using it to facetank damage

>OmG qickPL4y wuz da Bzt wE loVD iT C hOw Old iM!!
i do miss the times when everyone knew that using the server was better was better because quickplay was shit and playing in volvo servers was dumb, i swear that faggots basing their opinions on shitty jewtubers has done more damage to this game than any update

>>737532092
don't put words I didn't say into my mouth you cockmongler 5000.

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>keep adding more maps
>nobody plays them anyways

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>>737532274
>more than half of the casual player base plays in the top 25 maps

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>>737532315
>payload is the most popular gamemode because it gives you the most playtime per match with casual's restricted ruleset

>737531640
>hurr duurrr gaslighting hurr durr you spotted my larp so you're a casual defender hurr burrr
kill yourself larping faggot you are only showing that you never used the browser in your life

>>737532243
It's just layers on top of layers you peel back to
>I'm a faggot loser that nobody actually likes
Nevermind king faggot for this shit is apparently a billion view million subscriber youtube retard but has several nigh perpetually 0/24 servers.

>>737532371
>let me just discard all data that doesn't correlate to the narrative that I want to push
the idea of only counting games that end and excluding games where players leave makes no sense
>play a full 3 stages of dustbowl offense, leave happy after an hour. Doesn't count.
>play 2fort or hightower for 5 hours straight. It obviously doesn't end. Doesn't count.
if you are going to arbitrarily chop up your dataset, you can contort it to tell any story that you want. manipulative data presentation has been a staple of propaganda networks for fucking decades

>>737532274
>maps that have been in the game for longer have been played more
no shit?

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>>737532916
Obviously its a sample from after everything existed you giga-retard.

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>>737533216
You know the sad thing is you could actually claim a free win on this, because the map selection UI is fucking dogshit.
But you are literally so self destructively focused on this
>Valve needs to force people into my servers
Bullshit you can't even take the free win.

>>737533342
What fucking non-sequitur retardation is this?

>>737533601
>Hurr durr what do are matchmaking map selecter have do with map people play?? DURR
>This not add detotated playews to the sewvew
That's you.
That's how dumb you sound trying to mangle non-issues into a point.

>>737534202
>moving goalposts on someone else's post
This is an astonishing level of retarded.

>>737534250
>Um I set the goalposts so that the ui that people pick what maps to play on has nothing to do with what maps people play you can't call me stupid and state it does
Nobody's obligated to play retard ball with you.

>>737534192
Sniper shouldn't have snipers abilities.

>737532401
i accept your concession

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>op views my account
>cant take being absolutely destroyed when he sees swipez

>>737532734
>Let matchmaker choose map
>It's Demolition
>OhFuckNo.mp3
>Leave

>Requeue
>Harvest
>While the server is sending data, it just switched to Venice
>WTF NO!
>leaves

>Somehow it counted as me loving the maps

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>used to play at my friend house between 2011-2012 because got no pc
>By the time I have one I'm a 2014 chud

I'll take what I can get and be glad I wasn't a 2016fag

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You DO have one don't you /v/.

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>got my badge in April 2011
>it's still the same bronze as miguel.roblox who joined in 2024

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>>737529527
>Has my favorite servers already
>See huge list of Skial shit/slender Fortress/cp_orange shit
>Somehow supposed to spot that one with 200 ping

You know popular server doesn't get filled like that by magic, it take sometimes a year of constant dedication for regular to trust your server and always come back wich snowball to a server always full

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>>737529329
I remember pipeline was my first TF2 match ever
Now it's fucking impossible to join a match via casual or community servers

So what servers ARE played these days? Just 2fort, Harvest and Badwater?

>>737539836

>>737532274

>>737539631
>11.5 hours in queue
He's just bullshitting everyone, r-right..?

>>737539304
Yeah and it's still causing seethe to this day. Just for a different reason

>>737523932
Casual defenders yearn for the 3 minute long medieval mode match

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>>737525746
>orange man hurt my feefees!
Get in line, pal

>>737540319
Check by yourself
https://youtu.be/w2ZL3oFC21s

>>737534192
>changed the third line
kek

>>737529112
except the vast majority of maps added are ass

>>737540319
sometimes he gets a game, but its usually just by himself

>>737541790
GLORY TO THE IMPERIUM!!!

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Should I save it for a new effect in the next update or gamble for Skill Gotten Gains now?

payload race fucking sucks, why are people nostalgic for it

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>>737526139
I just wish they'd let us turn sprays back on and let us spam voice lines. I don't even care if they have the option disabled by default; I just want the option.
Started playing in 2011. TF2 is some of the most fun I've ever had in a video game. I miss when random novelty maps weren't so desolate. I miss rd_asteroid

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>>737529115

>>737530838
I still think those badges should have been updated at some point to reflect just how fucking old the game is.

>>737545079
If you don't like the current effect
Wait for scream fortress or smismass

>>737545673
I don't think valve will even care about sprays now specially since they made the newfags think they're evil

A pedo troon and a reddit kid changed the whole mentality on freedom of sprays

God I wish I could go to a different timeline where mym did not exist, tf2 landscape would look so different today for sure. In that timeline Zesty would probably not even be as popular as today.

>>737546439
What?

>>737525746
the fact that some fraud stepped in and did tf2 content just because of the grift is insane. the fans are even more insane. he is so shit at pvp games its not funny. his brain is so fucking small

>>737527698
that hat was such a spit in the face after valve cut freebies for people who bought the game (holiday keys and more). i used it as a craft hat. fuck them, lol

>>737545445
Because you could play anything you wanted and it could of helped

>>737527748
Does this use the same default net settings as regular tf, interp ratio and the like?

>all these people sperging out over quickplay vs casual mode
I thought nobody actually used quickplay and just used the server browser back in the day

>>737523932
Does the badge really mean anything anymore when it groups anyone from the past 17 years as the same "bronze" medal newcomers.
It was a sign when they were added, but at this point it makes no difference whether someone started playing 2007 or 2009, and yet the latter has the same badge as someone who installed the game yesterday.

>>737547786
quickplay was for noobs and server browser was for veterans. the problem is that casual killed community servers

>>737541790
and 2fort, dustbowl, goldrush, upward, and badwater aren't ass?
there are a handful of stinkers that just aren't fun but the big reason you aren't playing on new maps is because a large majority of players (including yourself) are afraid of leaving their comfort zone and just want to zone out and shoot into the same chokepoint for 3 hours
before matchmaking was introduced my favorite 2 community servers had custom maps in rotation all the time and they would regularly get played. many of them are officially in the game now too.

Best tf2 map is koth_harvest.
Pure action and skill expression for all classes - teamwork optional.
Also volvo unnerf ambi thx
https://files.catbox.moe/kbpzqo.mp4

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>>737548390

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>>737546547
Fuck I made a pic a while ago explaining it

But TLDR:
>Zeesek/zeesastrophe push the bogeyman story of cp in temps files (fork found in kitchen. Troons end up being a pedo)
>Some faggot made a video against sprays and decals. Zesty made a counter video but since troons hate him, they push now a contrarian headcanon against them

>Now newfags believe sprays are le evil

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>casualniggers trying to argue over a system that simply in every aspect is inferior to quickplay at its worst
>from an update that has caused the longevity of the game to become hindered as a result of the gameplay experience becoming shit for player interactivity on the same server on the main platform that was the easiest to access
the biggest issue isn't the faggot fucking politics or eceleb drama involving this discussion, it's why valve or more so the TF-Team hasn't done anything, primarily jill or eric because from a financial stand point this is overall worse for the game since it doesn't retain as many newcomers.

Like what the fuck were they thinking with their retarded "NEATO" update, in every aspect or way the revertion to quickplay would simply just cause greater benefits long term than a short term shitting and pissing match against retarded bad faith people don't even play the game heavily or niggerlicious ecelebs crying about some guy who has a deviantart muscle mommy shitty avant grade chinese cartoon bug eyed OC as his PFP getting his "win" thinking he did everything, when just about everyone knows it but are simply apathetic; quickplay fixes the bleeding issue for the game, afterwards it's just about bullying and harrassing the subhuman workshoppers off onto other platforms and cutting the revenue source so we get less bloat overall.

>>737549204
That the reverse of the coin of infinite money. valve just doesn't care TF2 makes less money

I'm not surprised if they keep the game alive just to not scare their other live service games that their items can just vanish one day

>>737549204
they wanted to make playing tf2 a gamble to get people addicted to regular gambling by way of crates. of course valve fucking knew that this system wouldn't work. they essentially created an engagement based matchmaking. valve post portal 2 are absolute niggers.

>>737527670
retard

>>737549605
I'd like to be proven wrong on this (not because I'm being cocky and think I'm right) because it seems that no matter what you can say about the absolute state of this game post MYM, gambling has only gone up or at the very least stagnated.

>>737525883
It's strange. It's not like comp tf2 was ever really big.

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>>737526013
>September 2012
yeah I missed the earlier days, but it was still grand.

>>737527605
Casual is objectively broken anon

>>737523932
i deleted my badge

>>737545716
Should be made out of wood and saying something like "Why the fuck are you even here? The party's long over." for anyone who joined past year 2017-20

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>>737549204
There's no use in effortposting on this anon, TF2 ((("fans"))) decided the casual vs quickplay thing is political for some reason so it's impossible to discuss even here.

What I personally don't get, is why the fuck hasn't there been an actual tangible reviewbomb movement shitting on casual and asking for quickplay. It's like the perfect way to get Valve to perk up if outlets cover it and yet nobody has suggested it.
>if Valve takes down the reviews they get into shit for it since its their own game
>if the reviews don't get taken down it's a brown stain on one of Valve's IP's out in the open
There is zero downside to this.

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>>737527748
It was too good so they had to take it behind the shed and kill it with server verification
Also cp_moonman lol

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>having a great time on dustbowl in casual
>push to the second stage as attackers, end up failing to take the second point
>switch sides
>half of my team instantly leaves (probably a party) despite being super talkative and enjoying the game while we were attacking
>matchmaker can't fill in the missing slots in time before the next round starts
>get absolutely steamroled on defense because it's literally a 6v12
>server eventually fills back up, but only after instantly losing the first stage and most of second
>lose all motivation to continue that match and leave myself
casual defenders will say this is how tf2 is meant to be played

>>737551045
Because half the community are sucking dick of faggot youtubers who followed the step of Uncle "trickle down work bro" Dane and never played the game pre 2016

So we got a huge cancer of people who refuse to be angry or protesting because they hear everywhere "TF2 is good, be glad you're not [insert game], TF2 is still alive bro and valve might be angry if you raise your voice"

>>737551718
>TF2 is good, be glad you're not [insert game], TF2 is still alive bro and valve might be angry if you raise your voice
god I hate this mindset so much
it's ironic too because any other alive shooter has a far better matchmaking system too

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>>737552031
and if any other popular shooter got the same treatment as TF2's MyM there would be riots in the street
all thanks to the bots for making most of the playerbase numb to casual's terrible ruleset because at least they can play the game now!
the "valve might shut down TF2 if we complain" sentiment is such a joke, they wouldn't shut down one of their easiest money printers over people requesting the game to be improved

>>737551718
>>737552273
Someone NEEDS to start a reviewbomb movement. Even if it gets buried by dicksucking redditfags anything to bring more attention to the issue is a good thing
The not terminally online normies who aren't in-tune with how old TF2 functioned likely just don't know better

>>737525746
Holy shitnyou are retarded lmao

>>737533601
He's some retard with a grudge against community servers for some psychotic reason

>>737540319
Never underestimate a gimmick channel that's actually committed to the bit.

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>>737533601
>>737552715
he some schizo who thinks the only reason youtubers like zesty want quickplay back is so that players are forced into their community servers so they can have complete control over the playerbase.... somehow
even though when quickplay was in its prime (the state that youtubers like zesty want the game to return to) you had to OPT IN to quickplay searching for community servers

>>737552426
This is what #FixTF2 tried to do but again we got cancer who undermined how much people were mad
Then you got trader parasites who put even more money because they rely on it to pay rent in their third world countries
And as soon one fix is there, the weak minded dropped it instead of twisting more

TF2 fans are mostly filled with the same cockroach that are Nintendo fans. The only difference is that the old player are still here and see how it turned to shit

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>>737523932
I don't understand why newfags can't understand how something old really might have just been better.
they can't just go "I haven't expereince quick play so I don't know", they have to religiously defend the current thing because it's the current thing, or can't just go check out the entirely documented system and how it worked. Just blind defense of the current thing.

>>737551474
>probably a party
maybe my anecdote is wrong but I've only ever seen the most niggerlicious players of all time ever use the party system (to team stack)

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>>737553440
Because newfags in 2007 were significantly more intelligent than newfags in 2026. Really makes you wonder how deep this rabbit hole is going to go.

>>737527748
I love it. Valve made too many executive decisions ruling out ideas in the early days of TF2 (that they didn't even stick to) and Classified just asked "would this idea be fun" and it usually is.

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>played around on idle maps because they were cool and unique
>I was branding with the Darksign and was not given a Cheaters Lament despite never idling.

>>737523932
>Why low iq are
Why low iq are
>Why low iq are
Why low iq are
>Why low iq are

>>737529527
This. There's even community-made quickplay systems that they could play on:
https://quickplay.tf
https://teamwork.tf/community/quickplay

>>737526013
February 2011. Right before it went F2P. Halloween 2012 and Two Cities was the most fun i had with the game i'll say.

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>>737529115
same

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>>737554608
I tell myself I would start painting some of these tf2 kill cams.

>>737552929
You'd maybe be able to get away with pretending there's some singular detractor if the people telling you to fuck off weren't bringing up the fact you can launch a server in game right now to play with your friends.
The only thing you're proving right now is that you are definitely organizing to astroturf for the shit you're being accused of asking for.

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I like Casual.

>>737525746
No one will admit it but it is very clear when nobody was talking about this until a youtuber made a video.

>>737556490
>I tolerate Casual.
ftfy

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>17 years of being a pathetic 2009 bronze badge newfag
I'm sorry everyone.

>>737523932
everyone at Valve deserves the rope for implementing gambling in TF2.

>>737556770
gambling addicts are retarded and I don't feel bad for them

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Self-hosted community servers are the only correct way to play the game, and relying on Valve servers in any capacity is for fags

>>737556987
Truth. Contracts and whitelist verification are a cancer set to prop up that completely unnecessary ecosystem.

>>737556657
Kek, the poo badge of shame should be given to anyone who started after f2p.

>>737557581
The whole badge thing was shit up around the time it dropped because of people selling accounts to mental cases, but I do have to admit it seems like a little bit of a missed opportunity that they didn't really make any other badges besides the four.

just hate that newbies dont get a chance to have fun, they cant adapt or learn in casual

my greatest joy during quickplay is seeing a f2p connect , and over the course of 45 minutes see him achieve sentience

in casual the 3 stack demo/medic/soldier combo just stomp f2ps and the new guys just leave

>>737558504
How many times do you think a completely brand new player's first experience with the game was being put into a match that ended within 10-20 seconds?

>>737558708
many, some simply wont accept it and de-installed they will get stomped and lose patience

with quickplay it would simply switch maps

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MYM turns 10 in July btw

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>>737558917
I didn't need to know that.

>>737558917
>Matchmaking is a ball and chain you're forced to interact with
>This entire time you've still been able to play user servers

>>737558917
Looks like a good opportunity to try and bring a global change to the current status quo

>>737534192
I would complain if any other class had the Amby

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most people's complaints about quickplay are incoherent nonsense and most custom servers were and are not the vanilla servers people claim they were

>>737549204
It's not inferior for me. Quickplay switched maps too much while I only wanted to play on one.

>>737559701
>Quickplay switched maps too much
45 map timer you disingenuous nigger loving troon.

>>737559823
Are you genuinely incapable of not posting exclusively in mentally ill talking points that are immediately destroyed by basic knowledge about the game like round limits?

>>737559701
Meanwhile casual
>connect to game
>barely walk out of spawn
>match already over and half the server left
>re-queue
>connect and play for 5 minutes
>match over
>repeat

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>>737559969
>map vote is AFTER the match ends, wasting your time if you're actually interested in staying (which probably won't be in your best interest due to how many people disconnect when a match ends)
>even if everyone votes to stay on the same map the server resets anyways wasting even MORE time and also causing another imbalance at the start of the next match due to people loading and the matchmaker trying to find people to fill all the empty slots

>>737539631
>>737540319
fun fact, he actually made a video showcasing how quickly you could get into a game via quickplay as a refutation to some retarded Casual cocksucking youtuber. its about ten minutes long and every clip is of a complete rando getting into a game(and they were all pipeline games) within ten seconds.

>>737539304
>afked on servers
>got lament anyway (2nd? wave)
Your stupid hat means nothing.

>>737559701
Quickplay had you play the same map for up to 45 minutes and it didn't reset the server if the map was the same
A match in casual from start to finish lasts barely more than 10 minutes, what are you on about? If anything quickplay was better for what you're looking for

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>>737559969
>>737560115
>half the fucking server doesn't even get in because the matchmaker is just that fucking broken
>there are still fucking bots everywhere
>>737559963
there were no round limits prior to mym you fucking retard. the server would run that map for 45 minutes and then give the option to chose a new map while the game is still ongoing

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>>737526013
>2011
>I was only 10 years old when I started

>>737560170
For the curious
https://youtu.be/2-Qn6dr8Y2E

>>737560467
>There were no round limits
Lol
Lmao even

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>>737527347
>Search for any map you want
>Search for any game mode you want
>Search for any form of TF2 you want
I think you're ignoring the part that even if Quickplay was returned, people like me who want to play Arena mode are still going to get shafted by the fact that the overwhelming majority of this playerbase is too retarded and riddled with ADHD to play a mode where you actually have to work as a team and try to not die instead of mindlessly throwing yourself at 5 enemies 0.27 seconds into the round. Quickplay might have it's own merits but don't act for a second like the map and modes that people play are any different from the 24/7 2fort, Dustbowl, Hightower, and Payload faggotry of today.

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>>737560540
Honestly my favorite video from him is the one where he tried queuing for plr_hacksaw.
It took him 20 HOURS to find a game, only for it to last 7 minutes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziDimzlxrUE

>>737560540
>literally every clip outside of Great Blue's are pipeline
I applaud the commitment to the gimmick. Kinda tells you how much was lost over time if barren maps now were just a click away prior to MyM

>>737559963
You seem incapable of posting concisely. How hard was it to just say round limits?

Even if round limits were a thing during quickplay era (pretty sure they weren't), then how are you then tolerating the round limit of three that casual has?

>>737560652
Consider that Arena was a fundamentally flawed concept from the word go, and it's map pool should have been put into the koth lineup.

>>737560828
Consider that you're one of the retarded faggots I'm referring to.

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>>737560795
THREE IF YOU'RE LUCKY, ANON. Most of the time its just a roll, you get two rounds, game over, map reset, fuck you and die

>>737560860
Consider that even the compniggers didn't care for it because people don't like waiting three minutes for the game to end after getting obliterated ten seconds into a round.

what if they implemented both systems for a while and kept whichever one people liked more

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I have no opinion I just wanted to show off my medal

>>737560540
>reduced playercounts are all due to my personal boogeyman and definitely have nothing to do with the game being two decades old

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>>737560993
Wow it's almost like you shouldn't run off and die like a goddamn retard in a mode with no respawning. What a novel concept. Truly thank you Anon, I had my suspicions that you were a braindead dumbfuck before, but now I have confirmation.
>Golly gee, the consequences of my actions! Who could've seen this coming?!

>>737561118
>faggot-retard desperately tries to defend casual again
there were roughly 70,000 players online in late 2012. right now, there are a little under 60,000 players in tf2

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>>737561124
have a thread appropriate version of that pic

>>737561380
Thanks.

>>737560993
>Consider that even the compniggers didn't care for it becaus
It didn't result in their community being fed people because nobody can stand comp fags.
The same reason why this "bring back muh quick play" shit is fucking retarded.

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>>737560540
God the amount of revisionism with tf2 is disgusting. Did people really have to prove that quickplay didn't entail waiting?

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>>737559969
>meanwhile worst case scenario which just means you have to wait 2 mins for the map to restart
Yea quickplay retards are disingenuous faggots who knew

>>737561124
The damn compfags didn't want to do it and they have communication out the ass. A gamemode thats just deathmatch with no respawning generally isn't fun no matter the game.

>>737561570
yes, and contrarian niggers like >>737561597 pretend otherwise

>>737560419
No because I play same map for hours and sometimes I didn't find a quickplay server with it.
Back then there were enough good community servers running it for it to be a non issue, but nowadays it would be terrible

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>>737553780
>>737553440
Agreed.
The material that newfags are made up of now are not the same robust material that they were made up of in 2007.
An entire generation was basically a social experiment of being subject to the barring of seminal play time, social developement, and academic capability. Social media was a great social experiment that has failed and fucked up a generation to be retarded.
And now we and this board has to pay that price of being molested by that cohorts taste and opinions

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>>737561606
And yet people love VSH despite it just being Arena but when you die, you wait 20 minutes instead of 30 seconds. Makes perfect sense to me. Goddamn. You dipshits are the types of people who would hop into a L4D game, run off alone and die to a Hunter and then blame your teammates for your own stupid fuckup.

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>>737539304
It's the staple for my heavy

>>737561793
People liking VSH has never made sense for this very reason. It's the biggest meme gamemode there is.

>>737560652
ADHDmaxxing is objectively peak TF2. Arena isn't badly implemented but the vast majority of people who want that kind of game mode just play other shooters.

>>737562014
Imagine my rage when it was added to Casual as an official game mode while Arena and Robot Destruction are left to rot.
>>737562071
See and I'm not disagreeing with that, I'm just pointing out to that Anon that having Quickplay back doesn't help people like me who enjoy TF2's alternative game modes.

>>737561338
do you have the slightest shred of evidence less people are playing plr because of quickplay, or is it just your personal opinion based on """common sense"""?

>>737562132
>Imagine my rage
Do you stun all nearby players, teleport to one, or temporarily gain a non-melee weapon

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>>737562250
I stun them because TF2fags piss and shit themselves in rage at the mere mention of stuns.
God, I miss the Sandman.

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>>737562132
>Quickplay back doesn't help people like me who enjoy TF2's alternative game modes.
As opposed to Casual, where all of the "alternative gamemodes" are so anemic that they might as well not exist. I could at least find an Arena match back in the day, even if it took a minute(or I just looked through the server browser), I can't find shit now. Even VSH or freaks outside of the Casual lineup is functionally dead and in the Casual lineup its dying.
>>737562209
see >>737560540 you crying nigger. not even ten seconds, and the squeaker found a relatively full match.

>>737562591
so you don't have any evidence beyond "ten years ago plr was more popular"

>>737562071
>Arena isn't badly implemented but the vast majority of people who want that kind of game mode just play other shooters
It's funny because not only did Overwatch implement their own version of arena but they still support it as one of the main game modes on arcade.

>>737562412
Tell me about it.
>Retards unironically invented the fictional genre of "movement shooter" to try and claim gimping the sandman wasn't completely retarded
>Years after it was ruined
>It's only marginally useful in VSH the single game mode where there is a playable character with a faster walkspeed than scout

I have the silver service medal and that feels like the most uncommon one. Server browser searching for valve servers was the patrician way to find games after community servers got gay.

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>>737562591
>As opposed to Casual, where all of the "alternative gamemodes" are so anemic that they might as well not exist.
Again, not defending Casual. I'm just pointing out that things would be no different for players in my shoes whether we have Quickplay or not. I would do almost anything for a full PASS Time lobby, give me Mannpower or Player Destruction, or anything man. Fuck.

>>737561124
Not this anon but arena kinda push the idea to never go for a risky play and just outlive anyone wich was super annoying when you get headshot by a sniper you never saw or a kamikaze scout who only picked you and you're now forced to wait

I did enjoy old Saxton hale/freak fortress tho as it was balanced with the fact that only one guy could kill you
So you could always go for a risky play as long as you could outskill the boss, making spy fun af

>>737562687
>Retards unironically invented the fictional genre of "movement shooter" to try and claim gimping the sandman wasn't completely retarded
What the fuck are you even trying to say?

>>737562769
Incidentally the whole "alternative modes have no players" is genuinely just a single UI change from being fixed.

>>737527670
Because playing on a flat ground is boring as shit

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>>737559701
>>737561726
Show us your steam inventory

>>737562630
I'm saying, you disingenuous goalpost-moving chucklenut, that your argument of playercounts >>737561118 doesn't mean anything because the playercount now is roughly the same as ten years ago.

>>737562914
I honestly doubt this given how many people just open TF2 and just mindlessly hop into a 2fort or Dustbowl game to spam projectiles for 3 hours since trying anything outside of their comfort zone is an unreasonable ask in their eyes.

>>737523932
merc badges are annoying and wrong about everything

>>737525883
that's not comp that's some weird mode no one plays

>>737562868
Retards tried to claim there was a specific genre TF2 was in called "movement shooters" and because of that stuns "don't belong" in the game without having to actually elaborate why getting mad on behalf of someone getting dinged by a sandman ball 10+ years ago was completely unjustified

>>737562769
>>737562914
I can't change the part about people being retards, thats an unfortunate part of the multiplayer experience at this point. Quickplay and the serverbrowser are your best bet at this point if you want any kind of revival.

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>>737563146
>Quickplay and the serverbrowser are your best bet at this point if you want any kind of revival.
The first of which wouldn't do shit, the second of which being filled with empty servers, trade / idle maps, and the same handful of maps people play 24/7 on Casual. Wow I love TF2.

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>>737563146
>urrghg neede quickplay ids relebant right???
Make a better ui for the map picker that isn't hiding alternative game modes at the bottom or slap a checkbox at the top that queues you for literally everything.

>>737563253
I don't know what you want anon. I'm sorry that the world doesn't think exclusively like you.
>>737563284
how does fixing the UI unfuck the entire matchmaking system?

>>737563135
I remember back when sandman was first added people simply said that stuns don't belong in shooters. Didn't help that the sandman really was busted on initial implementation. I can see the idea of tf2 being a "movement shooter" on the heavy focus on player movement due to the game's origins as a quake mod.

Honestly this shit actually makes me feel sorry for game devs. Because they'll have stuns, have everyone tell them that stuns are cancer, remove stuns. And then suddenly a wave of people will say they liked the stuns and I'm just left wondering why they fuck the people who liked the stuns said nothing when the stuns were being criticised.

>>737523932
>"B-b-but quickplay put you into half empty servers sometimes for 2 years!!!"
Meanwhile causal mode does that 1/3 of the time for 9.

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>>737563404
>I don't know what you want anon.
I want to play the maps and modes I like in TF2. I feel like I've made that pretty clear.

>>737563404
>how does fixing the UI unfuck the entire matchmaking system?
it makes much more sense that people don't play plr because the option to so is hidden away than because something something rounds are too short

>>737563404
>how does fixing the UI unfuck the entire matchmaking system?
Because basically the only issue you can point to that leads maps to being permanently empty is the fact that the UI isn't immediately obviously scrollable and considering I actually PLAY the game, I know first hand having to explain to people that there's a scroll bar on the map picker to at least 20 people in my steam group to play VSH or PASS Time on an official server (this was pre steam multiplayer, I now just host and they join me).

>>737563404
>how does fixing the UI unfuck the entire matchmaking system?
This. Sure it might boost traffic to dead modes, but it does nothing to fix the flawed ruleset casual has.

>>737563253
There would still be valve servers. If that counts as "the same handful of maps people play 24/7 on Casual" that's not really a problem. The advantage is not having to wait to get on servers and not having to deal with a really badly implemented auto balancer.

>>737563730
>but it does nothing to fix the flawed ruleset casual has.
Your mentally ill mysticism has nothing to do with the fact that most people aren't even aware of how to play VSH on official servers if they haven't been queued into the map since the summer update.

>>737563662
Not to defend shitty UI, but I don't think I'd want to play with people lacking the critical thinking to scroll down and select Pass Time.

On that note, FUCK PASS Time and FUCK Mannpower.

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All the community servers I was playing on were killed by quickplay.
I remember the last time I was playing TF2 actively around that time was just after Gun Mettle and they all started shutting down at nearly the same time.
I uninstalled TF2 at the time, partially because of that and partially because my CPU was dying (I wasn't aware at the time) and I couldn't properly play the game as much anymore.
I reinstalled TF2 in 2022 and I don't know - Casual isn't amazing either, but I also kind of don't care anymore. My community servers are deader than dirt and all the people on my friends list no longer even play TF2.

>>737563618
>>737563662
>>737563730
If I might point something else out, the other gamemodes that aren't payload and attack/defend are getting fucked as well outside of specific maps like 2fort. When was the last time someone played a round on koth_sawmill or ctf_well? Even 5_controlpoints maps are getting fucked and those are the supposed comp mainstays.

>>737562250
I gain a ranged weapon and res half the guys I killed on my team
>t. Administrator player

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Im kind of tired of going up against 6 stacks some of which blatantly cheat so they wont kick each other and theres no vote to scramble. So inevitable everybody leaves and you have to try for another 10 minutes to find a match that isnt empty.

old TF2 was fine
the only change needed was to force scramble

>>737564904
same, anon. cheating heavy mains and demos

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Everyone knows Valve wanted to kill tf2 ever since 2016.

>>737563485
>Why do people who are fine with stun mechanics not loudly shrieking about how the game cheated because they got hit by the ball?
A mystery to us all and definitely not a massive lesson to be learned about why "game balance" discussions are a tremendous waste of everyone's time.

>>737565546
Why? It makes them more than 50 million annually with no input needed other than adding a few new hats every seasonal update.

>>737562914
To this day I'm still wondering why they decided PLR is an alternative game mode

>>737566416
My best guess is that Hightower being the quasi-official deathmatch map they decided to stick all the maps there instead of pooling them with the rest of payload so that people looking to play frontier or hoodoo don't end up in Trolldier's Paradise

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>>737562014
ok as a fan of the old VHS/Freak Fortress i can answer but don't get me wrong, i don't shit on arena, it's just not my style but i see the appeal

VHS is a lot different from arena, it's a roguelike vs roguelite situation.

For a starter, arena never appealed to me because it was basically like a deatmatch but with a long respawn timer while, the interactions and skill required were the same while on VHS it is a new experience

Dying in VHS felt different as you always knew your opponent was basically a demoknight with a superjump and goomba stomp and could play around.
It always felt less punishing because you only need to keep track of one player.if the hale caught you, it was your fault so it felt the no respawn more fair. basically just don't get close to him lol
there was no combo medic who would crush, a scout kamikazing on your ass, a sniper at the other side of the map getting a headshot or a spy who was running the old dead ringer just circling around the map in the hope of finding someone distracted.
In VHS you could legit chill with an engi as long as you could see where was the hale (until the dude superjump, rage and destroy your ass)

and playing VHS was always fun, it was like playing a trolldier without being raped by heavies or engi

>>737566620
I feel like it might piss people off, but the distinction is really easy to understand if you've played Halo and how obviously different Juggernaut and Elimination are.

>guy with a bunch of dogshit low tier unusuals
>check their profile
>3212 hours
>started playing in 2022
i have a feeling that most players that still play this trans filled anal worm hole are people coping that they missed out on the game's best years and want to feel as cool as that top scoring scout with a burning flames unusual in 2012

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>>737566620
Now i fucking hate new VHS and it legit ruined a ton of the good interactions the gamemode offered. i like the rework of hale as his rage was really a bullshit mechanic made to give crutchs to bad players but
>the control point is now controlled via a timer and not numbers of players. Old VHS only added the control point in case the last players were pussies who keep running away wasting time to everyone so hale could win.instead of chasing that one rocketjumping soldier who keep flying away as soon as the hale jump
>RPS taunt in old VHS removed % of his health, so when only one player was left and the hale has too much hp, he could always gamble. Depending on how skilled the hale was, he has more chance to win the interaction and make the sole survivor winning even more hyped. New VHS kill hale in one win no matter the health remaining.
>New VSH (FFUUUCCKKK I'VE BEEN TYPING VHS THIS WHOLE TIME) choose randomly the hale every round, fuck you if you want to play hale, OLD VSH HAS A FUCKING WAITING LIST!!!! IF SOMEONE DISCONNECT, YOU GET TO PLAY HALE FASTER BUT EVERYONE HAS A FAIR CHANCE TO PLAY AS HALE AND COULD SKIP THEIR TURN IF THEY DIDN'T WANT TO!!!!

Vsh is not made for casual and should have stayed a community mode but it was different from arena and was fun on it own way. TOO BAD 90% OF COMMUNITY SERVER RUN THE NEW HALE AND NOT THE OLD ONE

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>>737567073
that the neat thing. they don't play TF2 and mostly let the game running in the background or a pajeet trading their unus

traders CANNOT play the game, i remember watching a vid of how to start to trade because i was curious and the dude was walking into walls, it was IGN level of skill

>>737567108
Pretty sure the Vscript for hale still puts every player in a queue.
You only really get boned if you join super late and a lot of people left, but even then VSH pretty much inevitably loops back onto hale maps so it's kind of a non-issue.

>>737567334
i remember playing the new VSH for hour and never got the chance to play as him. also been a while since i touched that gamemode but the server do reset (voting+restarting) so how they can keep a queue?

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>>737527698
>fucking used mine to rebuild headgear around the time i got it
Wish I could go back in time and strangle myself.

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>>737560540
>it takes seconds to load into a match with a populated server and you can jump in immediately and play as long as you want, no preround timer shit or round limits
see this? this shit is way better than fucking casual
quickplay was superior and i'm fucking sick of people saying otherwise

>>737567713
I don't really want to be mean to you but like, does the concept that when the map fires up it can look at the players that are connecting and make a list to cycle them onto hale?
Is that too confusing for you to understand?

>>737559058
Look at the server browser for more than five seconds and realize the damage that was done.

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>>737568036
I don't want to be that I'm right but is there any official line of code who confirm there a waiting list or are we just both talking possible scenarios?

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>>737568443
It's worse than that now. With latency under 100 I have to scroll down a bit to find an actual "vanilla tf2" community server and it's zesty's with 20 people at the moment.

>>737568758
also I just noticed how many of these servers are spoofing their ping, look at those "EU" servers with suspiciously low ping
I'm in central US

>>737568705
I can't be assed to dig through the actual vscript for VSH to check

>>737567108
>TOO BAD 90% OF COMMUNITY SERVER RUN THE NEW HALE AND NOT THE OLD ONE
That's just fucking sad, nu-vsh is objectively abysmal dogshit
Oh, and don't get me started that even the most basic bitch VSH featured three (3) extra faggots to play as to not make the gamemode way too repetitive, and each one of them gave you a slightly different experience (Vagineer's uber, HHH's teleports and a ranged option for CBS)

>>737565608
Ok so I guess the answer is you faggots are too retarded for even basic reading comprehension, yet alone able to understand why you should be defending mechanics while they're still in the game.

>>737569401
why I only play freak fortress

>>737559058
>>737568443
>>737568758
In europe there are no normal servers with good ping. Others either lie about ping, or just trade servers or same map 24/7 no objective...

>>737560501
i started playing around the same time when it went f2p and everyone was clowning us for being newcomers, now we are 15 year veterans kek

How much does Stout Shako go for nowadays?
>Last played: November 2018

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>did you know the pyro was orginally supposed to be a scary bug man! now he is le heckin wholsome and wacky!!
>ummmm yup real scary you just have to ignore his purse in the respawn room and his taunts which involve him doing a hadouken, raising his flamethrower like the sand people in starwars, or playing his fireaxe like an air guitar!!!
>check out this trading card that describes him in a way that is completely different from how he is portrayed in the actual game
>you just gotta ignore that all of his og hats are wacky
>I'M AN OLDFAG OK!!!! I WAS THERE FROM THE BEGINNING.... IGNORE THE FACT THAT I HAVE NO MEMORIES OF PLAYING TF2 BACK THEN BECAUSE I WAS TO BUSY SHITTING MY PANTS AND EATING ANIMAL CRACKERS
don't get me wrong i do think pyro has been flanderized since meet the pyro but to act like he has always been serious and not a little wacky/weird is historical revisionism

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>>737563026
Why?

>>737570273
Careful anon, you're getting dangerously close to the fact that the classes are classes and not heroes in a hero shooter with explicit and rigidly defined personalities.

>>737570351
>Showing his tranny unusual instead of the real stuff

Give the link faggot

>>737551045
I just quit the game when meet your match hit and removed quickplay.
I still play some jump maps once in a blue moon, but I get depressed when I check for my favourite map, cp_process, in the server browser and it shows no servers every single time.

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Being able to vote for the same map was a fucking mistake.

>>737570191
Couple ref?

>>737570707
Not like it fucking matter since leaving and getting a new server is always faster

>>737570273
>you just gotta ignore that all of his og hats are wacky
That's because the hats were always retarded.

>>737530370
>want to play CTF map
>every single CTF map is just everyone playing Team Deathmatch and ignoring the point
I fucking hate TDM fags with a passion. I've literally had people on my team kick me from a quickplay CTF map for playing the objective, because they didn't want their K/D to reset. On community servers it's even more blatant with the CTF point limit being like 99999, 2 second respawns, and fags just having conversations over the mic.
No one plays the god damn objective and it's so insufferable to play with. You'll have retards on payload maps ignore the point entirely and just fight around it when they can stand on it for 1 second and win the game. People get too concerned about their fucking K/D.

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>>737570582
Why?

>>737571163
I mean yeah ctf has been like that forever idk what you're expecting

>>737571370
I'm not expecting anything, it's been like that since Bush was president. I'm just annoyed that playing a good CTF game is not and has never realistically been an option.
The rare once in a fucking lifetime opportunity I've gotten to play an actual objective-focused CTF game has been a lot of fun and I'm just disappointed that you'd have to go through 1,000 QP lobbies to may be find half a round of quality CTF gameplay.

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>>737570273
Yeah yeah that's great anon now post fempyro ass.

>>737570707
Being able to vote for maps at all was a mistake but that's a conversation most people aren't really ready for.

>>737527698
I used to hate the appearance when I was younger but now I wear it all the time.

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interior crocodile alligator
i drive a chevrolet movie theater

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>>737572508
I fucking love this edit, it's so much more useful than the original image.

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>Originally played TF2 when it came out
>on the 360 with Orange Box
>missed out on the weapon updates when they first dropped
>missed out on getting anything other than a bronze badge
This sucks....

>>737573701
It's been said like 5 times this thread but the badges really don't mean shit these days, people bought and sold accounts with everything up to pre free to play merc badges

>>737557581
Fucking this. I got shafted with the poo badge even though I have proof of purchase.

>>737573932
I've made this thread less about gloating with virtual badges and more a filter to know who can talk about the casual vs Quickplay topic (wich all casualfag fails)

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>>737525746
I thought the tf2 chuds hated zesty for saying the player count was botted. Was he not totally hosting aimbots with uncle dane because he wanted tf2 to die now that he made a video they liked?

>>737577209
zesty is the chud, people like uncle dane hate his guts so if it's ever proven that people like dane were hosting bots then zesty wouldn't have been in on it

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>>737527748
>jump on to play one day after taking a long break
>all my favorite servers are gone or dead
>check the browser
>the only populated ones left are all shit
>turns out the devs murdered the good servers to appease troons or something
>uninstall

>>737577209
>>737577452
>Hey guys um yeah this youtuber totally isn't in the youtuber clique and did literally nothing wrong ever ha ha

Did anything good get added to the game after MvM mode? I pretty much stopped playing around that time. I saw something about contracts but never tried it.

>>737568758
>>737569927
How do these cunts even spoof their ping?

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>>737577209
Zesty is a melting retard faggot, never and I say NEVER listen to his personal opinions, but his videos are only facts and data and if you can't separate the information with the messenger, it tell a lot about you.

I say that but NEVER listen to a tf2tuber opinion at all. They all retards, idk what make them so retarted but they always end up saying the biggest garbage opinion
From Fishinhiscunt "quickplay was slow"

To uncle troon "bro trust the trickle down balance" (wich was officially called a failure of a strategy recently) or "remove repairing friendly building as Engi" or "put the wrangle shield on the engi"

Passing by zesty faggot "nuh Engi is too op if he can counter my retard spam"

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Is /v/ ready to accept there isn't hundreds of thousands of people playing a nearly two decade old game?

>>737578389
If I can still find at least one server full of people on a non-shit map rotation every weekend I don’t really care.
I don’t need the game to be thriving I just need it to be playable at the bare minimum.

>>737578389
I'll "accept it" the day you admit you admit your subscriberbase is fake and you samefag here and /vg/ you loser.

r/tf2 has arrived

>>737578389
Literally who thinks that? The game has about 50k players a day

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>>737578389
I'm honestly grateful the game isn't totally dead.

>>737578002
They tried this new thing where they put some new weapons on contracts that you had to do on Valve servers, but because of the era it was the already shit weapons got nerfed even harder, and sort of a mistake where they replaced halloween gifts with contracts, which theoretically you COULD always get more items during halloween than you used to but it also kind of sucks since it means user servers are dead as fuck during halloween since contracts can only be done on new servers.
There's a new Versus Saxton Hale mode that more or less addressed the autism arms race and thousands of incremental freak fortress tweaks to try and "balance" (make hale or the mercs win)
Also Steam Multiplayer is really good if you actually want to play with friends, but literally nobody here will actually tell you how great it is that LITERALLY, FUCKING, ANYBODY can spin up a tf2 server in game to play with their friends because the mongoloids here don't know what the concepts of friends or actual user servers are.

>>737578852
>a day
meant at day's peak hours

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>>737578852
Nah dude didn't you check out imabigfaggotretard.tf? They said during the entire summer update there was literally nobody playing on their home page.

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>>737549027
Fuck sprays, all you people ever do is upload pony/furry/fetish porn or CP. You people also deserve to have all talk taken away, fucking mic spammer retards.

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>>737579732
TF2 teached me that if you give players freedom to mute anyone, block them, and make them invisible

They will ignore all their tools and turn into troon pedos

>>737579732
You are a dishonest tranny.

>>737579732
>I don't like something so everyone else has to accommodate my feelings
Just mute and disable sprays

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>>737579732
aww, poor little pussy ass bitch can't handle bants and some music?

>>737570351
Unusual flamethrower?
They make that now?

What the effect even?

>>737526013
everyone talks about 2fort but that map and badlands are the ones I have the most memories of, I don't know how many hours I spent on them

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>>737578852
LMAO

My favorite community server survived the casual purge and would still get at max capacity regularly, but died in 2022 because Discord drama made the owner pull the plug. 4 years later and i am still mad.
The server was created in 2010 and was basically a museum full of old maps that cant be downloaded anywhere anymore(plus the maps and gamemodes made by the owner himself and admins), and its all gone now because Discord. fuck.

>>737583083
For me, it was Warpath. Last time I checked that map is completely dead now (haven't played TF2 in a couple of years).

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>>737579732
GET BEHIND ME DOCTOR

>>737584329
>maps that cant be downloaded anywhere anymore
If you did not delete your game files from the time you used to play on them, they should stil be in your pc theoretically

>>737579124
I was playing as a Scout and did this today by accident. I was at 122 hp and picked up the Medkit bellow the point in Megaton, then i looked behind and saw a Medic who was on red right next to me, he used the "Thanks" voice command, walked alway and died to a mini sentry.

>>737562412
>sandman is not fine
>holiday punch draws zero ire
anon, it may have something to do with the class it's on
>scout gives up practically nothing to equip it, since all of his melee weapons are useless compared to his scattergun. the lower max health doesn't actually change important damage breakpoints for him, he still dies in 2 shots to most weapons.
>scout is very fast and has free mobility
>the sandman ball is tied with the huntsman and direct hit for fastest projectile in the game
>ball doesn't have to hit anywhere in particular
compare
>heavy has very good melee utilities like GRU and FoS that he is foregoing in order to maybe tickle someone
>heavy is the slowest fucking class in the game
>heavy needs to also get into melee range of his target
>and he needs to hit them in the back or pray for a crit
most of the non-stock weapons for scout were designed specifically for total retards who think that scout should be played on dustbowl. the TF team was completely astonished year after year that every single time they made a busted strong scout weapon, the scouts that can actually aim and dodge were given carte blanche free invitations to shit all over their opponents.
most of what scout had received over the years was stupid because it was on scout. give those weapons to any other class and they wouldn't have been nearly as overbearing on top of what scout already provided for simply existing

>>737584849
>Holiday Punch on Scout
Dear God...

>>737527748
The best thing about Classic is that in-game mics don't sound horrible

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>Fighting heavy alone
>he lands a holiday punch on me
>puts his spray on a wall and then schadenfreudes with me
>hit killbinds within 0.2 seconds of each other

>>737583281
>random unsourced bullshit
yea ok

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>>737581950
There are only 4 unusual weapon effects
One of them got discontinued shortly after release too so it's extra expensive and rare.
The one I have is 'cool'

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>>737591591

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It's called swag

>>737523932
Matchmaking sucks, but I literally never used quickplay and don't know how it works. However, the people who want quickplay back are the same people who say I should play community servers instead of casual matchmaking, which makes me think they don't actually play the game, because WHAT community servers? I play TF2 for a month or two every year and I've never seen active community servers that weren't full of custom bullshit. I'm not playing that crap.

But even former Valve devs have complained that TF2's current state is atrocious. It's completely impenetrable for new players and it's no longer fun to just jump in and play since you have to go through matchmaking first.

There was a period of time between community servers being active and MYM where you could freely join official Valve servers sorted by game modes. I don't understand why they don't just go back to that.