>>737530150Not bad but not great. I don't like cardlikes but this one seemed interesting but I still don't really like it.
>>737530680I'm playing it now, it's definitely fun. I ended up buying it when I found myself re-downloading the demo to play it again. I'm surprised there aren't more people talking about it. They must not have spent much on marketing this time around
It's the most shallow deck builder I've played.
>>737530150for 10 bucks? Amazing, i'm used with people trying to put 50 bucks in games with less content than this one.
I dont think about it
>>737530150Extreme sloppa for actual drooling retards
Honestly very fun. The dev is a certified hack now
Cheap dopamine slot machine. All of these types of games are just there to make people addicted and trick them into thinking it's good.
>>737530150easiest deckbuilder I've ever played. Can build an infinite deck without even trying
>>737530150Fun for the first 8 or so hours but I'm getting bored. VS is a game that you could turn your brain off entirely and still play and win. Crawlers requires a little bit of micromanaging but not enough to be interesting. Also I really think they need to halve the cost of everything in the blacksmith/jeweler. That would probably make the game slightly less boring.
>>737532608You haven't built an infinite deck because it's not possible.
needs to be on ios
>>737533910Same. I’m also waiting for mobile releases
>>737533910>>737533952fags
>>737530150Unfortunately boring. Doesn't hit the same as the original game. I like this IP but eh, card genre and dungeon crawlers are kind of lame genres.
>>737534441dungeon crawlers rule
>>737534567Last one I played before this was Legends of Grimrock and it bored me to tears. It sounds fun in theory but in practice there is just nothing exciting about playing a JRPG in a Windows 98 screensaver.Casting magic was kind of neat but ultimately they don't feel that immersive, only dated.
trash. slay the spire was never fun>durrr let's put RNG in our turnbased>b-b-but it's cards! so it's justifiedJewish behavior
>>737533671Yeah the reaper shows up but literally just stop before you hit the third one. The screen should be dead enough that you don't take any hits
>>737534726well that's why. the legend of grimrock games are boring dogshit. there are plenty of great games in the genre. hate it all you want, just don't base that on the fucking legend of grimrock
>>737534826Give me 3 good ones and I promise you I will check them out
>>737531559>i'm used with people trying to put 50 bucks in games
>>737534898I can't do that. They're kind of like crpg's in that there is a ton of potential that's never really been realized
>>737535435Same
I love VS but the demo for VC bored me.
Does evolving with a higher tier item increase the dmg of the weapon in the end?
>>737536093Not 100% sure but I think it doesn't affect anything.
Hand size seems so disproportionately important compared to literally any other form of scaling that I cannot imagine doing anything except taking bracers on sight.
>>737531302its fun and numbers go upbut theres little to no depth
>>737536506It is if you don't have the hand upgrades or don't just go infinite instantly. By the time you're at the end, you'll be banishing bracers, they just don't matter when you end fights in 1 turn and boss fights in 1-3. I dropped Red Death in 2 turns, and only had to stop on the first turn because I didn't have another freeze in-hand.
>>737530150pretty good so fari wish it was on a phone so i could play it at work, it's literally perfect for a phone
Why are the level achievements so easy in this? All of the ones I see are 30 and under, which is a joke since you usually hit that naturally full clearing the 2nd/3rd-difficulty versions of a dungeon.
it's the first game i've bought at launch in probably 20 years, and i'm having to figure out what works and what doesn't. usually i pick up a game after a few years and read guides so i don't "waste time on video games"still unlocking stuff, I'm using Poe and trying to get gold to upgrade my cards, these Wildcard modifiers are great if you can get them. not sure which arcana to use, the two I looked at "keep 5 mana between turns" and "keep armor between turns" seemed the best, but some poster said "gain a mana every 100 cards" and this current run is fun
>>737538620also, got some gem that "adds a coin bag" which turns out is really good because it can chain between anything and it happens frequently
>>737538620It depends what stage of the game you're at and what party you're running with. Keeping mana between turns doesn't matter when you generate infinite mana and end fights turn one, armor isn't useful beyond a certain point where you're just ramping too hard to worry about taking damage without just reviving, Combos don't clear is good for small decks that don't want to summon trickster, trigger abilities is good for just stacking stuff like Gallo's money bonus or Poppea's duration. Wild card each floor is just kind of solid, but might bloat the deck. All depends.
>>737538620>keep 5 mana between turnsThis might be the single worst arcana in the game. I've never had a single run where I struggled with mana, and that arcana doesn't even add new mana to the ecosystem, it just saves mana that HAS to be wasted in order to be saved. Best arcana early game was "play 100 cards, get 1 mana" when I had nothing better unlocked. The combo arcana might be the best in the game.
>>737530150basic black bitch rng slopFun if you pirat e
>>737538620>so i don't "waste time on video games"Definitely done this for unlock conditions for VS. So far everything in VC is pretty vanilla and straightforward at least, so far.
>>737539532I got everything in ~20 hours with only having to spend maybe 2 or 3 hours of that focusing on trying to do a specific task, the rest was just accomplished by playing the game normally. Game's easy, and pretty simple, but entertaining throughout.
>>737539605Talking Crawlers? Because it took me 40ish hours for base Vampire Survivors before all of the updates. Crawlers definitely feels easier/shorter runs though since there's no 30min timer to stall until here. Once I got my armor/regen perks maxed out, the difficulty dropped dramatically.
>>737539795Crawlers, yeah. Survivors is a lot longer, especially with updates and DLC. Single runs in Crawlers can go longer than the Survivors timer if you farm hard enough for certain thing, but there's just less stuff to get and it's way easier to get money to max out your upgrades.
>>737530150i do a clear, quit and repeat multiple times a day
>>737530150Sloop slop
>>737530150Demo put me off by being so easy you literally don't even need to think about what you're doing.Is the full game any different or not?
>>737530150dunno isnt on phones yet like vampire survivors
>>737540941Have you tried killing the red death in one turn?
>>737540941The primary game is still a joke, which is my main complaint about this vs. VS. VS you were usually running by the skin of your teeth early on until you got a few weapon/passive unlocks to let you eventually survive to 30min.
The demo seemed super boring. It was totally mindless, and not in a fun way like vampire survivors. It was just click 0,1,2,3 energy every fight. Does it ever change?
>>737533910>his phone can't play windows games
>>737530150Incredible OST, reminds me of some KH boss battles
Feels like the game would be better if it took the Risk of Rain approach of increasing difficulty the longer you take, and also adding in random encounters into the mix so you can't just ignore the spawns that never move from their spot.
>>737534767>miss!
boring, unoriginal slop trying to capitalize on the whole card game genredon't see how it's any better than any of those platformers that were shat out a few years back
>>737541667>don't see how it's any better than any of those platformersMan, I could go for a Vampire Survivors platformer. That'd require these guys to make more than three frames per character though.
>>737530150that glass would suck to clean
That it's automatically garbage and cancer because the same kikes behind VS made this crap.
Okay, I'm at the endgame, beat Capella Ultima and got the credits to roll. Very good game, overall a quite solid and simple number-go-up card battler and nice simple dungeon crawler. It uses the Vampire Survivors IP well.This is the team I found to be the most broken, very easy to start going infinite almost right away. Gallo seems ridiculously overpowered compared to the rest of the cast. Being said, overall the wildcard combo recycle climb makes my monkey brain very happy when number get big.Anyways, bought everything in the shop and all the blacksmith upgrades. All I have left to spend money on is the Jeweler, and I'm hesitant of fucking my shit up by adjusting the rarities to the wrong things. I don't want to mess with the "curve" of the game in terms of what is most beneficial at what level of luck. What have you all done in terms of editing gem rarities? Would it generally be safe to seal away all colored essences except for Rainbow and make that common?
>>737542454>What have you all done in terms of editing gem rarities?The only thing I've done is make the wild gem the most common. I haven't had the money to do anything else.
I'm hoping they go more experimental with DLC that changes the way the game plays (self-contained or augments existing modes I guess), rather than just layering more broken weapons/crawlers on top of the existing systems.
>>737542454Gallo always on the team, make wild and gold damage common, ban literally everything else you can afford to. Wipe normal enemies with Gorgeous Moon, make millions of money with ultra maximum overkills, one-shot every boss including death with a money damage card. It's kind of trivial.
>>737530150Very funhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IRMLtXk4vo
>>737530150I'll just stick with StarCrawlers.
>>737544387Totally different kind of game. I love StarCrawlers, too. The difference is StarCrawlers is an actual dungeon crawler, while Vampire Crawlers is just a deckbuilding roguelite with the aesthetics and trappings of a dungeon crawler.
>>737544337Yatta Cavallo but you can tell what animal he actually is, totally cursed.
>Too short. But lasts long enough for its price, I guess.>Devolves into YuGiOh too quickly, everything is built around infinite turns due to infinite mana and card draw being accomplished after a handful of battles on every scenario. 2 core mechanics exist to "counter" it, the card shattering [death summon] and move counter on bosses that attack based on # of cards you play rather than turns>Boss abilities that change color/function of crawler passives are BS and end runs in a manner you can't control or predict.>Purple and Blue card colors way too bare, the former almost exclusively being +mana, the latter being almost exclusively +armor/health, while Yellow is bloated and every fusion devolves into Red for some reason.>Changing reward rarity seems like an early access feature. If you spend tens of thousands turning Fusions into common drops, they'll actually almost never show up, not even in spots where you'd previously always expect to see them, so you're fucked for whole fusion-less runs until you gather tens of thousands again to revert the change5/10 it's aight.
>>737531302Pretty much this, Its no Balatro or Slay the Spire. It something you play for a few hours and get tired of, not something that becomes your one game you play for a month.
>>737546313>Its no Balatro or Slay the SpireYes, it's even better.
>>737546903Lets talk again on May 24th and see if you're still playing this.
>>737530150>get the repeat cards are free tarot>take all draw effects and copy gems and a couple mana books>get your entire deck in your hand turn 1 and combo the shit out of everything
>>737534726Holy shit thats some bad taste my friend.
>>737530150mobile phone game for sensory fiending zoomers that need shit flying all over the screen and numbers going up quickly
>>737530150Game? Seeing it's a cardlike, so Slay the Spire like?I don't like that game.
>>737541491can android phones run this shit?
good game, but too easywaiting for balanced mod!
>tags: LGTBQ+huh? where do trannies fit in a vampire killing game?
>>737550045The LGBT tag isn't about trannies, its about kultur warriors sperging out.
>>737549927With Fex (funded by valve), yes
>>737550945How does this work exactly, is it integrated wth Steam?
>>737550945>>737551534ok, so i need to install:>F-Droid, a third party app store>Termux and Termux-x11, Linux emulators>FEXDroid on the Linux emulator>Linux Steam on that>the Linux game on thatEmulator on emulator on emulator from an unlicensed storesounds kinda fucked
>>737530150It satisfies my ADHD.
>>737530150The games have newhalf witch? Instant buy.
>>737551730We know, Luna Platz
>>737530150I have the same problem I had with mewgenics. Each run with the same character feels almost the same as there isn't enough variety. Maybe there's more later but if I can't find it after 15 hours it's not worth it
>>737551696Just install GameNative and submit your credentials to god knows who. It's open source though and actually works at least
>>737530150>pick skeleton>mash play all>win
dont post the voiceover please
>>737530150I like it a lot. Not difficult but still fun to experiment with card modifiers. No idea how to beat the Reaper yet but that was a really satisfying to figure out in VS.
>>737551980You need to actively engage with and build around the crawler cards for them to feel any different, gennaro is kinda like a shiv build silent in StS, your main goal is to get as many knives as possible in one turn to trigger the crawler effect
>>737552284Different crawlers feel different enough, it's when you play with the same crawler it always feels 95% the same as there isn't enough variety
>>737552350True, the only real choice you have to make for most is what evos you wanna go for, and coz quite a few crawlers start with spinnach that often ends up being firestorm
Hydrogen Storm!
Duration feels like such a shit fucking stat sometimes.>Go Pugnala main with Gallo >Play the Pugnala + Gallo crawler >Play the duration cards Pugnala starts with because it lets me cycle through my deck>Want to make a really big combo into Gallo crawler so I can reach the 1000% Greed cap early>Can't because Gallo is sitting at 100 stacks and I have no wildcards to get his crawler back I know how to get this to not happen, it just feels like a really stupid/annoying thing to micromanage and makes duration situational. Luck and Knowledge are permanent stats too so Luck/Knowledge/Greed crawlers all have the same issue where they want to cycle big combos into their stat but a big duration won't allow them to.
>>737547241Are you saying Grimrok is good? Projection?
>clear first floor of milk factory>can't clear second floor or the weeny bridgeso do i just grind gold now?
>>737556347you unlock a new crawler that fires a gorillion projectiles and clear both stages easily, thats where i stopped playing shit was way way too easy
>>737532339Like Call of Duty?
>>737530150I don't like card games.
>>737557510Did you like the original vampire survivors?
>>737557480video games in general, really
>>737558016it was fun, retarded as fuck but fun
>>7375301507/10
not a fan of deckbuilding games but it looks cool
>>737557510I like card games, but I don't like digital card games. Feels kind of pointless to hamfist a physical game into a digital format in that way. You can do so much with digital, why take the lazy route and develop cards?
I've 100% the game and pretty much have the gameplay solved AMA
>>737561249why should I waste my time with this game?
>>737561672It's 10 hours for 10$ and its an easier deckbuilder game. I will admit the game is a bit tedious after a bit so it's probably for the best its on the shorter side. I don't think you should get it unless you REALLY want another roguelike to play
>>737552008i just got vampire survivors from the play store. I feel like im not understanding what the fuck you retards are going on about
>>737561892Bad return. There are free things that aren't worth my time, so I don't think hourly monetary value is a good metric when the entertainment isn't high quality.I would play a good roguelike, but it has to be good.
>>737563627Examples of good roguelikes?
>>737564858Roguehttps://github.com/mikeyk730/Rogue-Collection
>>737530150soulless calculated cashgrab
>>737531302This. It's pretty boring.
>>737530150not playing game with a voiced tranny
>>737566104Name a better game, you can't.
It's complete brain rot but it's really fun. Ten bucks is about the right price, although it feels like it should be a couple bucks cheaper considering how simple it is.
>>737566337Poker
what did you guys think about:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BktYZWvd1Fg
>>737566861It's shit
played 4 hours. pretty fun so far. i estimate i might play 25 hours and get bored
>>737530150>No real strategy other than play 0-1-2 cost to keep combo going >meta progression out of the ass>enemies do nothing other than hit you but it doesn't matter because all your weapon stun or instakill>several weapons and stats are explained in the most shitty way as possible >there's literally no builds, just spam resource gaining cards>game still has that braindead "humor" of just having random Italian memeIt's shit, multiple good Roguelike came out this month and people are playing this garbage instead because of twitch, it's depressing
>>737566915a youtuber told me its great.
>>737530150Not bad for an ai image
>>737530150playing a game with a voiced transwoman!
>>737568002>He looked up the voice actors for a shitty pixel game with pixelated voices to see if it had a trans woman in itIs it possible to weaponize this level of incel autism?
>>737566214Outrage politics posters are just the other side of the same "Having a blast" poster coin.
>black bird robs youbased
vampire survivors was a mistake
>>737567087What should I play instead?
>>737530150Fun for a few hours but got boring really quick.
>>737571156Nothing
>>737564858Dead Cells
>>737570862BIRD UP
>>737571630God…DAMN IT!!
>>737572083also you can't get more than 4 bonus Extra Lives, apparently
>>737569090always supporting my trans sisters!
>>737571156Try literally any of these insteadMadcap Mosaic Omelette you cookA La Card Cursed WordsDiceomancer Skogdal
>>737572493this but unironically
>>737573334same!
shameless moneygrab with no thought behind it , no new items , enemies it´s a reskin of the same game but muh cards.couldn´t stomache more than 3 hours of it.
>>737575203>it´s a reskin of the same game but muh cards.do you know what a "reskin" is? define it for me.
>>737575652i consider a reskin the same game packaged slightly in a different gamemode.just like your neovagina
>>737575203ESL
It's funny, numbers go brrrr!
>>737576602I recognize this boss
>>737567087i'm playing it 'cuz vampire survivors was fun, the demo was free and i had several hours in it, and i'm liking all the content the full version has. i haven't seen a twitch stream since timmy from wkuk was doing fallout 4
>>737576069Do idpol warriors play video games anymore or do they just wander old games forums trying to haunt people with the opinions they downloaded from their tech oligarchs?
I wonder if there's a problem with the rarity system. It feels like the 1st and 5th levels of rarity are the most common and 2, 3 and 4 never show up in my runs.
Where?
>>737578241i didn't find one till i was farming gold in the bottom level of the library and i got to level 40. its probably level gated
>>737578241banish all weapons until it shows up, i got it on my first run of gallo towerit might just be a rare thing though, or level gated like the other anon said, i dunno
>>737561249Strategy for dealing with The Trickster and Red Death?
Done a couple of runs now, it's as shallow as vampire survivors. The dungeon crawling part is insultingly basic, might as well have made the map a straight line
>>737572641Cursed Words is indeed great.
>>737580117VS was actually fun though.If anything, the prices should be swapped. VS is the premium game.
For me, it's Vampire Slayer
Feels like a parody game, which worked okay for VS, but card games need some actual depth to stick.
>>737581639Feels just as barebones as SLS in regards to card depth. Unless you're talking about MTG or something.
>>737577382you play crawlers and compare it to VS and tell me it´s not a blatant copypasta pls ?instead of topdown it´s now a corridor-likesmoothbrain
>>737530150it has potential, and the feel of a good build is nice, but it's definitely underbaked. Almost all weapons feel the same, it's harder than even VS to tell which upgrades are better on what builds/weapons, and I can already tell they went way overboard with the amount of card upgrades to the point it's impossible to build around them in any meaningful way once the pool is bloated.
>>737530150Its fun, but no where near as good as vampire survivor.
>>737582269are you lost, grandpa?
>>737581567the 80s are over, unc
How do I beat the bridge? I feel like by the time I can ramp up the damage to clear waves they're killing me. One time I got to the sword and it oneshot the little amount of hp I had left. Is it just getting damage and armor upgrades?
Rolled credits and maxxed everything in the blacksmith on the same run. I have 15 cheevos left and it's all stuff I have to go out of my way to do.
>>737583918It's a roguelike. There's no strategy, you're expected to grind until you get permanent stat upgrades.
>>737579969Revives to have a guaranteed way to tank hits, the blue chrono weapon to avoid further damage, and any high damage cards. The red demon character can stack 3 revives if you think you need more than one.
>>737584024People still do achievements? lol
>>737583918upgrade your bracer stat if you have it or keep trying runs until you RNG into the bracer card.
What are color triggers for?>>737584168With VS it's a good way to know you're done with the new content since they tie EVERYTHING to an achievement.
>>737530150I don't think.
>>737584364Many of the characters have effects like "Play (color) card, trigger (effect)" Like how Pugnala draws more cards after playing a yellow card.
>>737583918Pugnala + a handful of meta upgrades and decent card gains can clear it easy. Her default deck can by itself destroy pretty hard, just build some combo weapons on the side and get more yellow cards/mana cards (also the save mana between turns arcana)
>>737584498>>737584570Pungala is not-Bayo, right? I'm in the dungeon right now to unlock her.
>>737584631yes, not bayo. Her default card is the spellbinder thingy (crawlers last longer) into mana book, which gives you enough to play both her guns, which combo with each other. By itself it can clear floor 1 of any dungeon not taking any damage. It makes her character infinite self-sustain, and you are guaranteed to draw her combo every turn.
So it's all about the combo right, and does that armor damage actually ever get useful or is it a noobtrap
Reminder to cash in gems for easy gold if you don't need them.
Are there any gems that are worth putting on cards that destroy themselves?
>>737585753Combos are easy damage, yes. But if you're running out of mana I would sacrifice the combo for the sake of a Weighty Tome use.
>>737585873>cash in gems for easy gold if you don't need themThe cash out doesn't scale with greed so it's kind of irrelevant if you're able to farm with maxed greed
>>737584741I just tried it and jesus christ this is basically a free win, it's retarded
>>737530150Just let me remove the voices the tranny does and it will be fine.
What floor is Ovenkilt on?
>>737587471Yeah, but it's not enough to clear difficulty 4 and 5 enemies in one turn, so you'll be buttfucked by 15 dmg every turn.
>>737530150Tried the demo but was pretty bored.
>Vague skill descriptionsHow much chance do I have for a knockback? Is the knockback on the axe and bible the same. Fuck games that do this
>>737587665I just did tier 5 milk plant with her and she rapes as long as you get enough mana books + spellbinders to sustain her. Evolved Garlic, Vespers, Wand, 3 combo amulets, combo down on the 3 mana gun, 3 mana books and 2 spellbinders + her and gennaro, got hit a bit here and there, but nothing garlic didn't heal. was untouchable the last 2 floors. Basically drawing/comboing through the entire deck every single turn no matter how it got dealt.
>>737588042wait until you want to know how many projectiles each weapon shoots, how much damage per projectile, and which weapons do aoe or not
>>737587605Which character did they ruin so I can avoid it?
>>737588445Bro I had a spicy garlic wipe out everything, I can't handle this much RNG+going off vibes. You can't withhold this much information, at least let me see it somewhere in the base
>>737533671You can easily do bs infinite chain combos, I have yet to run into a boss that doesnt die before the reaper shows up.
>>737588537Giovanna. It's just an autistic male's voice that didn't even try to make his voice sound like a woman's. And unfortunately she has the strongest passive in the game.
>>737587657The final floor of the final level on the final stage of the final area. It's a forced grab and impossible to miss.
>>737590246I missed and died on the second stage of the boss.
>>737590505It's literally impossible to miss. You didn't get to it yet.
>>737577626Haven't played it yet, but there's most likely a mandatory high rarity item in some instances, and since there are so few of them compared to lower rarity items, they pop up more consistently than the medium rarity items.
>>737590625Then this is not the last boss?
>>737530150the demo was alright but didn't grab meit can't really compete in the deck-slop market
>>737590760No it's not. You fight a harder boss after that with a fucking bullshit gimmick. I needed 3 attempts to beat it.
>>737577626I wonder if it's influenced by luck. I have been seeing a lot of mana rebate, decimate and free to play towards the end of a run. But why would I want to make good gems more common if it only benefits the early game?
It's interesting in that it solves a few problems other deck builders have. Like infinite loops that break cards/combos and enemies still being able to attack during your turn. However then it introduces some of its own, like being able to freeze death right before he attacks or just making everything wildcards to braindead click everything. With a lot of polish it could be Slay the Spire level but that would probably be to much work for the devs.
>>737590168Of fucking course, I hate this world sometimes.
>>737591832The voice is so shit even ignoring that they're an autistic male tranny with a lisp. It sounds so amateur and confused compared to all the other voices. Even if they felt they HAD to go the tranny route, there are surely better tranny voice actors than the one they hired.
>>737592269I will just have to remember to turn the voice down any time I have to play them if their passive is that strong.
>>737592269Why are alt-right incels always so obsessed with voice actors and translators? Is it autism?
>>737593901Why are you so obsessed with alt-right incels?
>>737593962What do you mean?
>>737546313>Slay the Spire>It something you play for a few hours and get tired of,But that's Slay the Spire tho
>>737530150Was too easy, but was fun and didn't overstay its welcome. I liked how it solved looping and stalling, and how quickly unlocks come in EXCEPT FOR THAT FUCKING 3000 PURPLE CARDS ONE JESUS FUCK
Thank you for playing anon! But the vampire is in the next coffin!
What does luck affect?
>>737590168Yeah but on the other hand those cats lag my game so it gives me more of a reason to not use her.
>>737598395It affects.....wait, what DOES it affect?
Retard here. I swear it took more effort to reach the first prestige layer in cookie clicker than it did to beat this game. Am I retarded or is this game mind numbingly easy to the point it's nearly insulting
So why does this bitch have the voice of an actual honest to god full grown man
