SKG..... we may not be able to contain it
>>737531746Read the catalog ZogYea >>737526535
>>737531746UMOLDco?
>>737531746He looks like a chad in this image
>>737531746Why contain it?s'cool
>>737531746Ehh can someone summarize the whole thing for me
>>737532259Communist propaganda spearheaded by some balding faggotHe's literally trying to stop every and new live service games from ever existing
>>737532259e-celeb wants to tear down the gaming industry by forcing publishers to indefinitely provide support for dying games
>>737532498Here's why that's a good thing: They're all absolute shit.
>>737532498>>737532594Slave souls terrified of having some actual rights.
>>737532498>He's literally trying to stop every and new live service games from ever existingDamn THATS what stop killing games is? he has my full support
>>737532259Guy shows the government the bullshit of live-service game and the government agreed that live-service game is bullshit
>>737532498And this is bad because...?
>>737532498if that's the case I am now interested
>>737532259When the game launches or has it's online features removed the devs make an "play offline" button and patch in the files you need to host a server yourself.
>>737532259
>>737531746>multimillion dollar company was forced to change a line of codeNOOOOOOO EAT MY WHOLE ASS SAVE ME BLIZZARD I'M GOING INSANE AAAAAAA
>>737531746does ubisoft even have any games worth not killing?
>>737532897What is it about SKG that makes people into raving lunatics? The idea that a game you buy can't be remotely disabled seems to break people's brains to the point of borderline insanity. I just don't get it. Is it all just a psyop? Is it all PirateSoftware on alt accounts?
>>737533110Shills.
>>737532498Based commie nerd making Jewish corpos seethe
>>737533110Reading his rant should give away it's nothing but Us vs them terminal culture war brain rot, even though though SKG directly benefits them as consumers.Also this >>737533251
>>737532498>trying to stop every and new live service games from ever existing
>>737532498
>>737532897>Im going to use an analogyEveryone who says this always uses the most retarded and dishonest sophistry imaginable. A big corpo is not being stolen from if it’s required to support a product you bought.
>>737532259>Buy a burger from McDonald's>Eat it and enjoy it for what it is, you got your money's worth out of it>Realize that you've eaten the burger and it no longer exists (shocking I know)>Go cry to EU daddy government to help you get infinite burgers out of McDonald'sIt's literally just a 'GIBS ME DAT' from some upjumped faggot.
>>737532498even if that was the case which is not I would still support it lol
>>737532897>Landlord should be able to kick you onto the street in case he has dying mother he wants to rent the apartment toWhat?
>>737533437>Food analogy
>>737533437>The American SCREECHES against consumer rights as he fantasizes about burgers
>>737532498It equates to communism that people want to be able to play the game that they bought? live service is a shitty model. I hope IOI gets struck next..>He's literally trying to stop every and new live service gamesThere should always be an offline game there. In my opinion the ones that are primarily singleplayer because it's just unacceptable for that to ever go offline. But even in the case of multiplayer we need to go back to the same old server browser system seen in Valves games for example. Nobody even wanted these shitty new systems. In a lot of cases they were made for closed off trash consoles to limit what you were allowed to do with them.
>>737533449Americans are mentally ill
Bro if Ubisoft is on board you should all realize how big of a scam this isThey are going to create an organization whose sole focus is censoring games, not “preserving” them at all. They are a fucking evil conglomerate run by trannies and niggers, they aren’t fucking developers.
>>737532682>>737532821>>737532848>>737532859>>737533332Live service is GOOD actually. Having a game become unavailable when the company can't support it is FINE. Having endless microtransactions in every AAA game instead of a one-time purchase is AWESOME. You will own NOTHING and be HAPPY.
>>737532498>He's literally trying to stop every and new live service games from ever existingAnd where the bad news should be?
>>737533540Wtf does hosting servers/making games available offlone have to do with censorship? Do you have a working brain?
>>737533637Someone edit in 3 chads on a computer with headphones on playing RuneScape
>>737533540>company folds and adds offline mode to a game before the law is passed and the EU fines their asses>N-NO! This is a b-bad thing, because trannies!!Kill yourself
>>737533637>>737533540>>737533437>>737532897
>>737533540>run by trannies and niggersTrannigers
>>737533490>consumer rightsyou have the right to not purchase garbage like the crew
>You will own things and be happy
>>737532498>Stop every and new live service games from ever existingWhy are people against this then?
>>737532498>He's literally trying to stop every and new live service games from ever existing
>>737532897can you post an actual summary instead of some retarded youtube comment?
>>737531746Totally boomer take but how many fucking games do you need? What old/dead game are people dieing to play on there own or brought back? Only Wildstar and maybe M.A.G from back in the day come to mind for me but I'm not crying or itching to play them urgently. By no means I don't think SKG is wrong, but getting government involved feels unnecessary risk.
>>737533826love how communists stole this meme when this shit literally came from the EU communists
>>737533110Literal paid shills and psyops trying to undermine it. Or just one of many Jason Halls burner accounts.
gamers win
>>737533950I'm glad the government is getting involved. These game companies have gotten so cocky and deserve to be punished.
>>737533957Communism is good when it benefits me and makes Jews seethe
>Company puts poison in their food cause cause they can't be bothered to check it or do any safety precautions or adhere to hygiene standards>Bro stop stop putting poison in your food or we'll fine you or put you in jail>NOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T DO THIS IT'S COMMUNISM YOU'RE DESTROYING PRIVATE INDUSTRY YOU BASTARDS! LET THEM DO WHAT THEY WANT!!! YOU'RE HURTING THE BOTTOM LINE!!!
Why do they call him the emerald head
>>737533950>getting government involved feels unnecessary riskHow is it risky?
>>737532259>Ehh can someone summarize the whole thing for meGames are sold as products because they are products.Then game studios sell games as services despite still being products (this is generally what we refer to as 'fraud' in the civilized world)Some nobody points out how this is obviously not acceptableTime passesNow the EU is involved in regulating game studios, which could've been avoided if they merely didn't sell goods as services and fraud hundreds of millions of people.
>>737532498Communism... is based?!?
>>737534180devs use also have to pay for proprietary services you ape
this is probably necessary to stop games from entirely becoming a subscription service. the opposing argument is just "you can't own games"
>>737532897How is a finite physical object like a property supposed to be like virtual software code that can be copied infinitely. What a braindead analogy.
>>737534162if you were wondering why eu politicians are all over this>skg doesnt actually ask for almost anything except some very small regulations involving setting a date of a game's end>this is an opportunity for lawyers and a commission to fine the fuck out of some video games>consumers don't really get anything because skg doesn't really ask for anyhting
>>737534263You are correct, the entire concept of selling a product "license" rather than "product" is retarded and should be illegal in general. Glad we're all on the same page.
Maldavius status?
>>737534201Always has been
>>737534389felted
>>737534350It’s not. Companies get away with blurring the lines because they understand they’re refusing to make it a distinction allows them to justify totalitarian control over your purchase and what you do with their property, which is the goal.
I dont understand why devs cant just release the server binary so people can play after the game is dead by just running their own server.
>author releases new book>new book is shit>but you always have their old good books>studio releases new movie>new movie is shit>but you always have their old good movies>developer releases new game>new game is shit>fuck you, you can't play the old good ones anymore because I said so, now buy new game and get excited for next gameOne of these things is not like the other. Shills will try to have you believe otherwise
>>737532189SKG will be online within six months. It's currently undergoing preparation and will be operational within six months. We will continue to make memes within six months.
>>737534371then don't buy them, simple. nobody is forcing you
>>737534478skg doesnt even ask for that so idk why ur bringing it up
>>737532498>He's literally trying to stop every and new live service games from ever existingwtf I love communism now
>>737534478Because they don’t benefit from it. Remember that they quite literally think you’re got cattle. They like the idea that you’re desperate and reliant on them to deliver the slop. it means they can control you. Remember that these are Jews anon.
>>737532498>He's literally trying to stop every and new live service games from ever existingoh nohow terrible/s
>>737532498>when retarded corpocuck's shitpost backfires and makes SKG look even more based
>>737534482Your appointment to FEMA will be finalized within the week
>>737534532>we should improve society>um ackshually, nobody's forcing you to partake in societyYawn, go back to sleep Shmuel.
>>737534536SKG should literally just be forcing that instead of making them come up with death dates
>>737533957>literally came from the EU communistsThe EU may have been created by socialists and by some actual pro soviet communist individuals but i don't think many people are complaining about this one specific field because otherwise there was no other angle to pursue in forcing a European company like Ubisoft to ship an offline and comply. In the grand scheme of things to care about what the European Union overreaches and over regulates on many matters simply no one cares when its about video games in this scenario.Why would anyone? you've gotta be working for a company yourself to find it all so bothersome. And if you are you're making garbage live service games so fuck you for ruining the industry anyway.
>>737534356who the fuck cares about modern AAA companies fuck them
>>737534597No. Six months.
>>737532498>Its muh communism to care for consumer rights to peruse their purchase rather than giving carte-blanche to corporations to sell a license that has undetermined date of license that you can't reuse in the soon-future because they ran out of money and can't fund the servers.There's a reason there's expiration dates on food packaging and the fact that you are told its purchasing a license (revoke-able) and not a purchase of a product (something you own permanently without caveats.) You will own nothing and be happy is WEF mind-set therefore more communist than private-ownership promoting SKG initiative. You fuckers lost: ROPE AND SHOOT YOURSELF IN THE MOUTH!
It was so funny to me that PirateSoftware got run through the mud by literally everyone for being against this, but last week everyone found out that the average Japanese consumer holds the exact same cucked opinions to an even worse degree than him.
>>737534621you need to subscribe to live-service ubislop and Netflix to partake in society?
>>737534753Japan is literally a buck-broken country designed by the west and israel to represent western (by which I mean israeli) interests in east asia.
Nobody cares about this. They pretend to care about this because they think they have a political ideology in their 20s, before they owned a business or had to pay significant taxes.
>>737534810does japan (((donate))) money to israel like usa?
>>737534810So thats why its more interesting and more popular than china? Got it.
>>737534753Please understand that the average Jap is terrified of doing anything even remotely society abnormal. This is to their benefit and detriment and why many express a sense of freedom when they leave Japan.
>>737534838You've said some really dumb shit on this board in the past and this is up there
>>737534838Just stop embezzling money bro.
>>737534753Religions have been replaced by corporate overlords, and Japan is one of the best examples on the planet. Their entire existence and philosophy is dictated by the same four companies, one of those being Nintendo.
>>737534753>Burgers make fun of japs for being massive corpocucks>anti-skg threads prove they have the exact same mindset except worse
>>737534864They actually do. >In 2018, Japanese investment in Israel hit a record $3.5 billion, and as of February 2024, Japanese investment in Israel's high-tech sector accounted for 12.8% of all investments.Stagnating economy but there's always money to "invest" in Israel, somehow.
>>737534901he's right. you're a brown zoomer that never owned a business, let alone developed a video game or wrote a single line of code
>>737532498Anon, the purpose of strawmanning an argument is to make it look bad, not better than what it is in reality.
>>737534976>you’re brown!!! Lel, is this the best you can do?
>>737534753>>737534810>>737534894>>737534952>>737534972what the fuck japfaggots
>>737534952>>737534963I can't believe there were genuinely Japanese people last week telling me that this was bad because "companies wouldn't make short-lived cash-grab gacha games anymore" as though that was a bad thing.One guy seemed to genuinely believe with all his heart that Nintendo could go under tomorrow.
>>737531746Ubixisters... we need to fight harder, we have to kill our games right now
>>737532128>in this image
>>737533449I highkey kinda agree with that
>>737532498Probably the easiest bait to post nowadays
>>737534753How is SKG's stance against f2p games anyway? It's mostly focusing on games that you actually buy right?
>>737532498You certainly sit on one of the lowest possible branches of humanity.
>>737535063keep going, consoomer
>>737531746maldive figtree response?
>>737535110>companies wouldn't make short-lived cash-grab gacha games anymoreBut they still can. They'd just need to give a definitive "This game will shut down on this date" disclaimer somewhere prior to a player spending any money. SKG literally exists to tell game companies to stop scamming its users.
>>737533110I'm like 90% sure it's retarded zoomers who have been brainwashed into thinking this shit is normal.
>>737535282All of his mods quit yesterday and dishoned him and Pirate blamed SKG for it
>>737535286I think his point was that there a lot of gacha companies that know their games wont last very long. If they had to guarantee service for a particular amount of time, they wouldn't make them because the investment would have too much risk.I say good riddance.
>>737533110The core argument against it is that it will be a huge blow to live service developers, which is most likely going to be bad if you like live service games. They will probably have lower budgets because they'd be making less money because people would just wait it out until they go EOS to play the offline version.But yeah most of the shills seething are quite a spectacle. Totally deranged.
>>737532498....And that's a Good Thing!
>>737532498>He's literally trying to stop every and new live service games from ever existingHoly based
>>737535426See if that were true I could see that they have SOME argument, but live service games are at their best when the community is at its strongest, which is always going to be when the live service game is making the most money. This line of reasoning doesn't hold up, imo.
Japs lost. American corpo slaves lost. Babel Media and other indian "marketing" companies lost. Ubisoft lost. Gamers won.
>>737535226Reductive non sequitur
Where were you when we pulled ourselves up by the bootstraps and saved gaming?
>>737535531I don't quite buy that argument, waiting for EOS sounds like a non issue if it happens in 10+ years.
>>737535531I play Genshin and I've spent probably a bit over $100 on it. I obviously wouldn't have spent anything on it if I knew I could just unlock everything for free later on.Now, most people aren't like me and they would probably still throw money at their gachas. but there are people like me out there and it would affect their bottom line. Especially since live service games are in competition with each other. Adding in another factor that keeps players away from the games(waiting until they EOS to do everything as if it were a normal game), would just decimate some live service games completely. like those random games someone picks up to check out then get hooked, some of these people won't even bother picking the games up to do dailies for years when they could just wait for the single player experience that would come out eventually.
>>737535650that's what I'm saying, if people want to play a live service game they're not going to wait until EOS, they're going to want to play it when there's tons of people playing said game. If the game is really popular then who tf is gonna wait for a hypothetical future point in time, when there's nobody left playing it, to jump on board? The live service player brain doesn't work like that, least of all the ones that actually spend money on that crap.
>>737535770>if people want to play a live service game they're not going to wait until EOS,Some will, in fact I would say most will for certain games because playing live service games is a huge time investment, you can't really play them all.
>>737535818But if there's no more development going on, no more content being released, then who's gonna pick up a live service game from ten years ago for free, rather than a current, popular one, that they can play with a bunch of other people?
>>737535894Me. I'd even pay for the completed game.
>>737535110>I can't believe there were genuinely Japanese people last week telling meBots on twitter are not real.
>>737532498>He's literally trying to stop every and new live service games from ever existingHOLY BASED!
Is there any actual argument that people have against this or is it just retarded people being contrarians? This might be the only win we get in 2026. Didnt expect it to be “videogames”.
>>737535159>I should be allowed to one sided break the lease agreement you signed because I say so Quite literally retarded and also illegal pretty much everywhere
>>737534976you're a green doomer
>>737531746who the fuck is ubisoft?
>think of the shareholders! Those poor billionaires, how are they supposed to scam us now?
>>737535691A large number of gacha games have systems that let you unlock absolutely everything worth utilizing just by playing more, but you can speed up the process by paying money. These games are still profitable, so even when given the pure f2p option there will still be people wanting to get everything faster.
Kinda funny that without that faggot Piratesoftware raising a stink, this all could have died before even getting enough votes
>>737532498games as a service raped the vidya industrymuch like manifest destiny raped the native americans
>ubisoft and the other publishers still have the Samson option to get revenge on gamers. illustrated quite well here in a allegory of sorts.https://imgur.com/gallery/RoS7nY6
>>737536029There are situations where the devs use tools they don't own the license to which would make it illegal for them to distribute. However the obvious solution to this is making sure you're using tools with a more lenient license from the ground up. Pic related was an excuse from a dev about why they couldn't do official mod support. They teased modding for years only to tell people at 1.0 it was impossible.
>>737532897Just let your mother live in your room with you, you ungrateful bitch.
>>737534963without flags, it is impossible to verify who is american and who is a jeet pretending to be one
>>737533540>this is all a psyop! wake up sheeple!
>>737531746
>>737532498>He's literally trying to stop every and new live service games from ever existingbased
Why do people keep lumping in gacha games like SKG applies to them? The games are typically free and you have the option to willingly pay for extra skins/items/gambling currency if you have no self-control. At best wouldn't they just have to make an offline viewer or something for the stuff you paid for (wouldn't even be required to include your favorite characters/stuff you got for free) rather than develop a full offline version of a game you never even paid for? I would love it if this did lead to real offline versions of some gacha games being made, but I don't see it happening.
>>737536289Quite a show, wasn't it?It was a well-scripted drama staged by the Patriots for the benefit of the public.
>>737535770>If the game is really popular then who tf is gonna wait for a hypothetical future point in time, when there's nobody left playing it, to jump on board?Me
>>737533540on the contrary, I think they see the writing on the wall and it's a real threat so they're trying to put themselves in a position of power to deal with it
Literally, positively, irrefutable evidence that SKG are bad actors.
>>737535691>but there are people like me out there and it would affect their bottom lineNo it wouldn't, live service games don't get by by a random user deciding to spend $5 on the anniversary, they get on whales deciding to spend $5000 every month
>>737532498>He's literally trying to stop every and new live service games from ever existingRoss is so fucking based
>>737537097>Why do people keep lumping in gacha gamesBecause they ARE live service and apparently Japs consider killing their products to be a good thing.
>devs will have to keep literally EVERY SINGLE SERVER up forever you fucking chuds!Why do retards keep claiming this
>>737532498Which is a good thing. Doesn't stop anyone who cares about this dogshit from gargling miles of cock because they care about these dogshit types of games but still.
>>737537329>Why do retards keep claiming thisto trick people who didn't bother doing their own research
>>737537252Yes, this post is big evidence to prove SKG haters are useful idiots who don't understand what it's about.>>737537329Because normalfags are fucking stupid.
>>737537097>I would love it if this did lead to real offline versions of some gacha games being made, but I don't see it happening.they had been doing this for quite some time now and it's slowly becoming an industry standard, for "reputable" companies at least.
>>737531746>bend the kneeThat's a hell of a framing to put "reluctantly letting customers play what they purchased" into
Amerifats defend "corpo rights" because they have been so brainwashed by the idea of the "american dream" (never existed unless you were born in the right tribe) that they believe they are just a day away from becoming the next billionaire, so they have to go against anything that could potentially make it hard for them to be the one fucking the poorfags over for a profit in the future
>>737531746The jew fears the Mold
>>737534838There's nothing political about not wanting videogames to be unavailable to be played ever again and become lost media at the whim of some random corporate suits
>>737532498communism is when i own the products i purchase
>>737533540>brogo fuck yourself retarded shill
>>737537452I might be willing to make a 1 time purchase to have free reign of a gacha and all its events. X-Dive Offline is a bit surreal.
>>737537158I also think they are trying anything to improve their general image among gamers.
>>737534894I can confirm this, I met a Japanese girl working in my country that I regularly talked with to practice my beginner level japanese and she said she is way more free here than in Japan.
>>737533540Ubisoft ripping people off is literally what kicked off this whole movement, dipshit. How could they possibly be truly "on board" with a movement that started to combat their greed and negligence?
>>737531746CAN I PLAY THE CREW 1 YETCAN I PLAY THE CREW 1 YETCAN I PLAY THE CREW 1 YET?FOR FUCK'S SAKE, ANYONE? I JUST WANT TO CRUISE AMERICA AND FUCK YOU GOYBISOFT I'M NOT BUYING CREW 2 AFTER YOU TOOK AWAY CREW 1
>>737531746Pirategame BTFO
>>737534180>Now the EU is involved in regulating game studiosEven though game companies are being made to provide offline support for games, this can obviosly still become a huge problem.Game communities have been able to provide offline support in the end, anyway. ElDewrito is an example.
>>737532498Does ur dad work at blizzard?
>>737537252>food analogy
>>737534065>Ford/general motor make it so car's fluid is labeled as "lifetime fluid" that should never be changed and that guarantees are void if you change it inside a garage or by yourself >actually it must be changed every 80/100 miles to not damage a car>citizens start a class action against the Ameriretard automobile industry >lose because the lobby is too powerful and buy leverages to bend jewstice>amerigoys are ok with this>and every corporations shitting on consumer's rights are also ok because muh crapitalism designed by the chosen people or sumthin'
>>737531948Pragmata thread died for this...
>>737533826He cleans up well when he's not in a scary dark polish room
>>737533110Literally shills.There is not a single actual paying customer that is okay with your 70 dollar game being taken away from you at any point by the developer.
